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“There military technology was decades ahead of the rest of the galaxy” In a galaxy where the technology of the Old Republic is basically the same as the New Republic technology thousands of years later, “decades” should be “‘millennia.”
@@alexporter7379 The Harrower actually is better armed than a Nebula in some ways. It has better raw turbolaser firepower, and better point defense systems, plus it requires much less crew. That being said, the advanced Ion Cannons on the Nebula would even out the fight quite a bit. If the Nebula can land its Ion cannons, it wins 10/10 times versus the Harrower. But if the Harrower can avoid the Ion Cannons, I'd give the win to the Harrower I'd say 7/10 times.
@@geetslys I thought Star Wars had all the tech already only limited by funds and resources. So they could have anything as long as there is enough credit.
@@Jenn-lq9yu Not even close to accurate. Remind you that the Nebula has 40 Heavy Turbolasers, whereas the Harrower has only 32 medium or so turbolasers. Likewise, the Nebula has an additional 40 medium turbolasers, whereas the secondary armament of the Harrower are laser cannons. To further add insult to injury, the Nebula was known to be able to go toe to toe with ESSD's, and while they might not win individually, a flotilla of them are able to knock it out of the fight.
Rebels when the hallway starts getting asthma: 😟 Stormtroopers when the trees start saying “Yub Nub”: 😦 Clones when the darkness starts speaking Umbaran: 😱
@@geetslys yub nub is mocking or am I just not getting context of a joke? I mean on the level of scary, they put them above being trapped in a hallway with an “upset” darth vader. For cannibal teddy bears, I’d say that’s pretty good.
"From my study of the battle, the Umbarans had much of an advantage. They had the right mindset going into the battle, their biology, including their eyesight, was naturally adapted to their dark planet, they had superior knowledge on planetary hazards, and all their equipment, the combat drugs, the plasma, the droids, the tanks, the fighters, all were superior despite us having the most powerful weapons. I hear that the only reason that we even won that battle in spite of the issue in the chain of command, was due to a couple of 501st disobeying orders. If you go by the official report, it doesn't mention that they stole some captured starfighters and snuck into a reactor core. Our main advantage was numbers. It was definitely one of our toughest battles due to the fog of war, a superior enemy, and a faltering leader." -CS/CT-8711-12 "Cheng", Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
I can imagine a moment that just sends chills down your spine and keeps you on the edge of your seat, and everything needs to be on point. Choreographed well, skilled actors, amazing scenery, the stuff. but it needs to be done SO well that it never gets old. Also with some silliness and expectation subversion for added flavor. It should evoke all the emotions we want from Star Wars. I know it's not like an Anchorman fight scene, based on my 10-minute research just now but it would be cool to see it
The Umbarans seem like they were based off the covenant, their tanks are like wraiths, their fighters are like banshees, the crawler tank is kinda like a scarab.
You know what would have been extremely scary? Umbarans and mandalorians combining their knowledge and developing military stuff together. The results of that would be overkill, i believe
But... their impeding assault tanks could burrow, and change the environment to CREATE THE HIGH GROUND. DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF TERRIFYING ADVANTAGE THIS IS? To demonstrate: Obi-Wan:Don't do it annakin! I have the high ground! Impeding Assault Tank:*Digs under Obi-Wan, making the highground turn into lowground* Anakin Skywalker:Now I have the high ground!
@@angryvaultguy Imagine for a moment, you dig UNDER the highground in a pit, then collapse it under the one using it, transfomring it into such a lowground even GRAVITY kills them instantly.
You'd think once the Empire took over one of their first orders of business would have been to acquire Umbaran tech. They would have been unstoppable. And you'd think the fact that one of Palpatine's highest advisors was the Umbaran Sly Moore he'd be able to convince her to help with that, especially if the rumors that circulated on the Holonews in Legends is to be believed, that Sly Moore wanted to activate Palpatine's "Lightsaber" if you catch my drift. LOL.
These things look over designed. It kind of fits in with what the narrator was saying, they had developing and producing military units constantly for ever.
@@blackpowderkun ehhhh... yes and no. For example, the Death Stars and other super weapons that were obscenely expensive to construct, where they could have just built more Star Destroyers. But then they have TIE fighters, without their own hyper drives, really kind of fragile (but they were also very fast).
@@adamofblastworks1517 I mean I expect they can reproduce it but how much, The TIE defender required to compete resources with the death star. Like probably Umbaran tech can be reproduce for only special forces not in mass quantities for the common rank and file.
Little known fact: The Umbarans were big fans of the *G-Force: Guardians of Space* aka *Battle of the Planets* cartoon and were inspired by the baddies vehicle designs. I guess they never bothered to consider who always won in the end of every episode…
That's because the helmets provide them with aresolized combat drugs, why they die after removing the helmets I do not know, but likely from lack of exposure to the drugs, or maybe a chemical reaction with the atmosphere that makes the drug highly toxic? I can only guess
@@IdontKnow-nm8bz that or the drugs affect pressurization of the body, so the suit balances the drawbacks (it kinda reminds me of diving gear). And once it's broken, there's nothing to counter the effects of the drug. Sadly I don't have a degree in alien combat drugs, but since Star Wars takes a lot of inspiration from WW2, I'd guess it could be similar to metamphetamin, which was what the germans used iirc.
@@zeanu4334 Star wars was weird like that. In reality a single system should out gun the entirety of the republic in star wars considering their numbers.
3:13 these are my favorite from umbaras arsenal! Such a devious little droid maneuverable a hard target and has a quickly lethal attack. Something the CIS should have strived for in their standard droids.
Too bad the CIS couldn't get this tech. I wonder how it would work with the empire and first order. And yes more tech videos, I love those more, besides war.
Gonna be honest I was convinced the Umbaran helmet was a green ray shield, because when I saw their blaster bolts, I thought "Holy shit they're so advanced that the rank and file get green anti starfighter turbolaser levels of firepower?"
Hey geetsly if the umbaran’s had their own political power such as the republic and CIS do you think that they would’ve participated in the clone wars for their own perspective of restoring peace to the galaxy
@@brodyking7095 No, actually I kinda liked it. But I'm a bit ticked that the whole prequel trilogy and the entire clone war story line shows the Jedi as completely and totally evil.
Thinking back, as far as mainstream Starwars content the Umbarans are the only real hint we get that not everyone is on the same tech level and can develop differently
umbara deserves to be in 40k. It's a literal night death world with an incredibly advanced native military that would give even the imperium of man a pretty hard time.
Since stormtrooper armor is made to make the user more comfortable, I wonder if they integrated ideas from Umbara for the development of the stormtrooper armor.
That true? Rex seemed to hate how the uniform fit. Though he was also fatter/ buffer than he used to be, and clone armor was specifically made to fit him and the clones
If you've played the Star Wars commander mobile strategy game, the Empire does get their own heavy mobile cannons. But the problem with Umbara technology is that it might be hard to mass produce which makes it unfavorable to the Empire
Can not help to think of an alternative timeline where the umbarans, mandalorians, and the chiss ended up working together to fight the republic and win and afterwards fight the yuuzhan-vong.
I am completely surprised we never saw the Empire making any use of this tech after they took over. Assuming Palpatine didn't see the Umbarans as a threat and had the planet nuked or something.
@@J0hnnythaj0k3r i mean, its not like the clones, the mandos would probably do guerilla raids, like the umbarans and their worst mounted flame throwers and missles could destroy their artillery, but besides that the mandos have beskar armor
Electro magnetic plasma cannons... So, basically just blasters, but very big and with a less stable containment field for every individual bolt? I'm guessing the super big advantage is that they can use local atmosphere for plasma instead of Tibanna gas, that by itself would make them sought after, just for economic reasons! Granted I am just basing that hypothesis on the fact that they have big open rails and visible no gas canisters, but it's a good guess...
Wow! Just wow! Didn't know that Umbarans wore helmets which were filled with stimulents, not oxigen(yep, that confused me. Thought they somehow couldn't breathe their own air due to the planet's dark atmosphere) to make them stronger. As many others in the comments said, they were in fact centuries ahead in technology.
It's from the RTS game star wars empire at war, specifically one of the various mods that adds in umbara as a map. I've played that map so many times that I could recognise it anywhere.
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@@SquirrelASMR the Gold edition on steam is dirt cheap. And steam edition is best edition for ease of use moding. Just in case you were interested in knowing.
The Empire actually started using Umbaran tech, and from the sounds of it, had a fairly cordial relationship with Umbara. I always like to think of Umbara as a hiccup in Palpatine's plan since he didn't orchestrate the senate murders, which is why he full sends republic forces and makes sure that the CIS are unable to land troops on the planet to reinforce the heavily outnumbered and outgunned Umbarans. This is also backed up by the fact that the Empire, unlike the republic, was perfectly happy to allow Umbara to be independent, and it was rebel aggression which saw Umbaran tech being stolen and used against imperial civilians that forced the Empire to occupy the planet.
I'd say WW2 German Army. Highly advanced weaponry, used stimulants to help keep them awake/push them harder, yet eventually lost to an enemy who had inferior technology
None of these developments would have changed the Clone Wars because Supreme Chancellor Palpatine was controlling the entire war on both sides to a pre-determined conclusion anyway.
Choosing not to share your technology is one thing. But the Republic could have picked apart wrecks, suits, blasters, or intact vehicles in captured bases. The only ones who even touched an Umbaran weapon after it was finished shooting were a couple of rogue clones.
I read somewhere in the comments of an Ubaran Arc clip that the helmets were likely used to pump in stimulants, but I disregarded the notion; thinking that they probably just couldn’t breathe on their own world. At the same time though, I felt that didn’t really make sense when I did a double take.
Another reason could become palpatine didn't want either side to have the technology because if the republic and the C.I.S. had gotten their hands on it either side could end the war before palpatine was ready for it to end. Perhaps that's why he didn't have the republic salvage any of the umbaran technology after recapturing the planet. Sidious/palpatine also probably had sly moore make sure the tech didn't fall into the hands of either side.
I would have loved to see them merge with the Mando's that would have been beastly indeed yo to think a merging of those two societies nobody would have been able to ever beat them....Mandalorian and Umbaran technology mixed like holy fuck nuggets McGee...lol
I don't think the Umbaran technology was actually more advanced than most of the galaxy, just that they had different preferences with what they had. Ball lightning-esque projectiles, for instance, are things we see elsewhere, including large scale ion weaponry like the Seperatist battleship at the start of the series and the ion bomb partway through, as well as on the smaller scale with cultures seen as being relatively primitive like the Gungans. The plasma ball guns are fairly powerful with single shots, but they're also bulky, unwieldy, have a relatively low rate of fire, and appear to have a significant delay between the weapon being activated and the weapon actually firing. It wouldn't surprise me if it's a technology already known to the rest of the galaxy, but which isn't used because when push comes to shove, "conventional" weapons are more practical. (And there may be something about Umbara specifically that makes their tech more practical there than it would be in most other places.) I'm also sceptical that the Republic would consider berserker gas to be a bonus. Such narcotics usually come with downsides when it comes to tactical reasoning, and one of the big advantages of biological sapient soldiers in Star Wars is that they can usually outthink droids. Berserker chemicals, especially when used in an abrupt fashion across a fighting force that's already at war and hasn't had time to adjust to them, could end up doing more harm than good even if they had the same effect on clone biology as they did on the Umbarans.
Umbara's Campaign is a combination of the nightmarish guerrilla warfare style of Vietnam and civil wars in Middle East and Latin America with the insane speed of the Blitzkrieg tactics used by Nazi Wehrmacht against France and England at the start of WWII in the european theater (best example would be how the Wehrmacht completely distracted both forces in Belgium fronts, meanwhile they launched a surprise attack from the Ardennes, trapping them in a circular maneuver , decimating French forces and forcing the British to make a last desperate naval escape in now popular Dunkirk incident), and also the better technology they had. For the first time in the Clone Wars, the GAR was outmatched in quality. Also, Umbara's geography doesn't helps too much. The planet itself looks terrifying, it looks like Satan's hell, without lava, but it gives too many negative emotions that is perfect for psychological warfare. And I'm completely sure that if the CIS actually deployed their droid hordes, the Republic would have been so decimated they would have been forced to cancel the entire invasion and define the entire campaign as a failure. It would have been like how the Vietcong kicked the butt of the US Army during Vietnam War in real history, but amplified to the next level. What I love about Umbara's arc is that it shows that no matter how advanced is the Republic, no matter how close they were to start the Outer Rim Sieges after so long of having to be in the defensive against the droid hordes, no matter how much experience our bois in black and white and "heroes" had until this point, the difficulty of war never changed. Always being brutal, giving the lesson that in conflict, you can't never drop your guard.
Why didn't Umbaran military tech get adapted and put into widespread use in the Republic and Empire after the fall of Umbara? To clarify, I understand the Umbaran's were secretive of their technology and capabilities but after the planets downfall, what prevented the Republic from capturing acquiring and adapting the tech?
why didnt the republic just capture and study umbaran tech after they captured the airbase with working starfighters and most likely umbaran blasters aswell?
Note umbara focused on ground and air based tech. There star ships where serverly lacking in there advanced fields. Which makes more scenes when you consider the umbarans may have preferred fortified planetary Warfar and gurila warfare
"Oh wow we managed to kill and capture a dead Umbaran soldier who had all of their equipment on them, should we take it back to research it?" "Nah leave it they would get mad."
"Hmmm Those blasters are slightly better Than ours, but they are very expensive as well, so good for a small military but awful for a large military like ours, and this gas is basically a narcotic, do I really have to tell why using narcotics is a bad idea?"
My only question is, if Umbaran technology was so advanced, then how did the Empire easily steamroll over them? Because, considering how advanced the Umbaran HMC is, not even an AT-AT would be enough. Realistically, the Empire would've just sued for peace with the Umbarans, not the other way around.
The main issue is lack of good enough fleet. Excellent land tech could win them multiple battles but they still could be nuked from orbit by Venators/Star destroyers.
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Which Umbaran piece of technology would have scared you most if you were a clone?
Could you do a video on trandoshan weapons from the republic commando game?
(in terms of vehicle technology): their mobile heavy cannon. All other vehicles are puny toys compared to that massive behemoth.
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Those centipede tanks would have anyone pissing themselves
the impedeading assault tank
“There military technology was decades ahead of the rest of the galaxy”
In a galaxy where the technology of the Old Republic is basically the same as the New Republic technology thousands of years later, “decades” should be “‘millennia.”
In Star Wars, technology usually moves backwards with time.
I wouldn't pit a Harrower vs a Nebula SD. Same with Venator vs Nebula. Tech got better but was overall stagnant after a certain point.
@@alexporter7379 The Harrower actually is better armed than a Nebula in some ways. It has better raw turbolaser firepower, and better point defense systems, plus it requires much less crew. That being said, the advanced Ion Cannons on the Nebula would even out the fight quite a bit. If the Nebula can land its Ion cannons, it wins 10/10 times versus the Harrower. But if the Harrower can avoid the Ion Cannons, I'd give the win to the Harrower I'd say 7/10 times.
@@geetslys I thought Star Wars had all the tech already only limited by funds and resources.
So they could have anything as long as there is enough credit.
@@Jenn-lq9yu Not even close to accurate. Remind you that the Nebula has 40 Heavy Turbolasers, whereas the Harrower has only 32 medium or so turbolasers. Likewise, the Nebula has an additional 40 medium turbolasers, whereas the secondary armament of the Harrower are laser cannons. To further add insult to injury, the Nebula was known to be able to go toe to toe with ESSD's, and while they might not win individually, a flotilla of them are able to knock it out of the fight.
This is what Umbarans like to call being ‘built different’.
Rebels when the hallway starts getting asthma: 😟
Stormtroopers when the trees start saying “Yub Nub”: 😦
Clones when the darkness starts speaking Umbaran: 😱
Those Ewoks go hard don't mock them
Those Ewoks are cannibals
@@geetslys yub nub is mocking or am I just not getting context of a joke? I mean on the level of scary, they put them above being trapped in a hallway with an “upset” darth vader. For cannibal teddy bears, I’d say that’s pretty good.
"That's why they're called the shadow people, tup!"
heretics, when the mud starts speaking kreig battle code.
The empire took notes on this. Their mobile cannons were devastating. Yes, SW commander.
The good old days
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"impeding assault tank" oh you mean the laser caterpillar of death
Have you ever heard of the Umbara Campaign?? Doubt you would. The 501st and 212th legions would never tell you about it.
"From my study of the battle, the Umbarans had much of an advantage. They had the right mindset going into the battle, their biology, including their eyesight, was naturally adapted to their dark planet, they had superior knowledge on planetary hazards, and all their equipment, the combat drugs, the plasma, the droids, the tanks, the fighters, all were superior despite us having the most powerful weapons. I hear that the only reason that we even won that battle in spite of the issue in the chain of command, was due to a couple of 501st disobeying orders. If you go by the official report, it doesn't mention that they stole some captured starfighters and snuck into a reactor core. Our main advantage was numbers. It was definitely one of our toughest battles due to the fog of war, a superior enemy, and a faltering leader."
-CS/CT-8711-12 "Cheng", Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
What was it like having the superior numbers for once?
Where is this from?
Sounds like it’s from one of the battlefield games from the writing style
Why do you keep saying "us" and "we" you do know star wars doesn't exist and that your not a clone.
@@Crom_smite_youIt's a quote
Over the course of Star Wars history, have there ever been any battles so insane that they could rival an Anchorman fight scene?
Hahaha
Sadly no. Nothing will ever be better than an Anchorman fight scene.
Doubt they can
I can imagine a moment that just sends chills down your spine and keeps you on the edge of your seat, and everything needs to be on point. Choreographed well, skilled actors, amazing scenery, the stuff. but it needs to be done SO well that it never gets old. Also with some silliness and expectation subversion for added flavor. It should evoke all the emotions we want from Star Wars. I know it's not like an Anchorman fight scene, based on my 10-minute research just now but it would be cool to see it
nevermind, it just needs to be funny and satirical.
Just imagine the vehicles that could be made if the Umbarans allied with the Chiss.
That will be awesome!!!!
The thought of this gives me nightmares
And the colicoids as well
The one time Star Wars felt like we were in Warhammer.
What about the scene in Solo? That comes pretty close in my opinion.
@@tau-5794 The Maw scene is a pretty good representation.
@@netrolancer1061 I think he was talking about when everyone was a kregsman
@@ChickenFartx
The battle of Minban right?
Umbaran assassin Droid is a zappy sliver fish change my mind
Im gonna change your boi
Its a mechanical zappy silverfish haha
Not gonna lie, I always thought that was just an animal.
No. Don’t make it worse. Just don’t.... ;-;
**Starts having a mental breakdown**
The Umbarans seem like they were based off the covenant, their tanks are like wraiths, their fighters are like banshees, the crawler tank is kinda like a scarab.
The only way the tank is similar is that it floats
Because walkers and floating tanks were never a thing. Cis tanks float.
@@clydecraft5642 they are both mobile artillery.
My brain hurts.
You know what would have been extremely scary? Umbarans and mandalorians combining their knowledge and developing military stuff together. The results of that would be overkill, i believe
The only thing that can surpass Umbaran technology is the high ground
Agreed
Yes
But... their impeding assault tanks could burrow, and change the environment to CREATE THE HIGH GROUND. DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF TERRIFYING ADVANTAGE THIS IS?
To demonstrate:
Obi-Wan:Don't do it annakin! I have the high ground!
Impeding Assault Tank:*Digs under Obi-Wan, making the highground turn into lowground*
Anakin Skywalker:Now I have the high ground!
@@skullzans whoa slow down there buckaroo i don't think humanity is ready for this kind of technology best we keep this to our selves
@@angryvaultguy Imagine for a moment, you dig UNDER the highground in a pit, then collapse it under the one using it, transfomring it into such a lowground even GRAVITY kills them instantly.
You'd think once the Empire took over one of their first orders of business would have been to acquire Umbaran tech. They would have been unstoppable.
And you'd think the fact that one of Palpatine's highest advisors was the Umbaran Sly Moore he'd be able to convince her to help with that, especially if the rumors that circulated on the Holonews in Legends is to be believed, that Sly Moore wanted to activate Palpatine's "Lightsaber" if you catch my drift. LOL.
That depends how expensive to reproduce Umbaran tech, the empire relied on quantity over quality to police a large territory.
@@blackpowderkun Tell that to Star Wars Commander... (amongst the vehicles you could get in the Empire included Umbaran MHC’s.)
These things look over designed. It kind of fits in with what the narrator was saying, they had developing and producing military units constantly for ever.
@@blackpowderkun ehhhh... yes and no.
For example, the Death Stars and other super weapons that were obscenely expensive to construct, where they could have just built more Star Destroyers.
But then they have TIE fighters, without their own hyper drives, really kind of fragile (but they were also very fast).
@@adamofblastworks1517 I mean I expect they can reproduce it but how much, The TIE defender required to compete resources with the death star. Like probably Umbaran tech can be reproduce for only special forces not in mass quantities for the common rank and file.
The Senate was even MORE powerful than Umbaran technology.
lol
Almost as powerful as the high ground.
@Liam Williams senate with the high ground 😱
@@Karen-dn7qd high ground with the senate
@@captainsandwhich7469 He's too dangerous to be left alive!
Little known fact: The Umbarans were big fans of the *G-Force: Guardians of Space* aka *Battle of the Planets* cartoon and were inspired by the baddies vehicle designs.
I guess they never bothered to consider who always won in the end of every episode…
Umbarren weapons: are over looked
Geetsly’s: not to me
I was wondering about the helmets lmao I'm like if it's there home planet why can't they breathe normaly lol
They used it to pump gases that made them more aggressive
That's because the helmets provide them with aresolized combat drugs, why they die after removing the helmets I do not know, but likely from lack of exposure to the drugs, or maybe a chemical reaction with the atmosphere that makes the drug highly toxic? I can only guess
@@IdontKnow-nm8bz that or the drugs affect pressurization of the body, so the suit balances the drawbacks (it kinda reminds me of diving gear). And once it's broken, there's nothing to counter the effects of the drug.
Sadly I don't have a degree in alien combat drugs, but since Star Wars takes a lot of inspiration from WW2, I'd guess it could be similar to metamphetamin, which was what the germans used iirc.
@@O-P-96 yes they did, all Germans. Men, women, everyone did
the guy literally explained it in the video about 3 ish minutes in
Imagine if the Umbarans had their own navy they can rival the military of the republic and the cis during that time.
They don’t have enough resources on one planet, nor the economy to buy them, to build a fleet large enough to rival either of those factions
@@zeanu4334 They could take out their neighbors they are weak like the mandos did
They had some Warships, we see only few but it's better than Zero
Have you ever heard of the Umbara Campaign?? Doubt you would. The 501st and 212th legions would never tell you about it.
@@zeanu4334
Star wars was weird like that. In reality a single system should out gun the entirety of the republic in star wars considering their numbers.
3:13 these are my favorite from umbaras arsenal! Such a devious little droid maneuverable a hard target and has a quickly lethal attack. Something the CIS should have strived for in their standard droids.
Yeah, imagine a squad of Commandos, each deploying one of these as they assault an outpost or such.
They were wise. Give help when needed but don't give up technology . And I enjoy this.
I remember havinh a Milicreep "pet" on Clone Wars Adventures haha
Oh those were the days.
the umbarans tech just evolved at a normal rate as the rest of the galaxy was just so behind
That was thanks to the Ruusan Reformation that the Umbarans secretly dispbeyed
@@bladedninja8853 Yeah fuck the Ruusan reformation man.
Too bad the CIS couldn't get this tech. I wonder how it would work with the empire and first order.
And yes more tech videos, I love those more, besides war.
Second best arc, only to siege of Mandalore/Order 66
An argument could be made that it is better than the Siege of Mandalore too!
Not better than fives
Gonna be honest I was convinced the Umbaran helmet was a green ray shield, because when I saw their blaster bolts, I thought "Holy shit they're so advanced that the rank and file get green anti starfighter turbolaser levels of firepower?"
Every time I hear that ring of the plasma cannons, I think, "I bet there's plenty of PTSD related to that."
loud high pitched buzzing
Hey geetsly if the umbaran’s had their own political power such as the republic and CIS do you think that they would’ve participated in the clone wars for their own perspective of restoring peace to the galaxy
Nah, their goals are not that big.
Umbara is probably my favorite planet and the military is also amazing
Why would anybody dislike this video!!! or any of his videos! ITS INSANE
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It's just bots trying to balance the amount of likes
@@barbados3592 So, did you dislike the video?
@@brodyking7095 No, actually I kinda liked it. But I'm a bit ticked that the whole prequel trilogy and the entire clone war story line shows the Jedi as completely and totally evil.
@@barbados3592 Being a virgin is a bad thing?
Thinking back, as far as mainstream Starwars content the Umbarans are the only real hint we get that not everyone is on the same tech level and can develop differently
umbara deserves to be in 40k. It's a literal night death world with an incredibly advanced native military that would give even the imperium of man a pretty hard time.
I think the most terrifying Umbaran weapon was that disintegration ray that took out scores of clones.
4:10 oh, cool, hard sci-fi weapons in a soft space fantasy setting.
The Umbarans technology reminds me of the Covenants technology in Halo.
Since stormtrooper armor is made to make the user more comfortable, I wonder if they integrated ideas from Umbara for the development of the stormtrooper armor.
That true? Rex seemed to hate how the uniform fit. Though he was also fatter/ buffer than he used to be, and clone armor was specifically made to fit him and the clones
Okay, but why didn't the Empire just TAKE their tech after the clone wars?
If you've played the Star Wars commander mobile strategy game, the Empire does get their own heavy mobile cannons. But the problem with Umbara technology is that it might be hard to mass produce which makes it unfavorable to the Empire
Have you ever heard of the Umbara Campaign?? Doubt you would. The 501st and 212th legions would never tell you about it.
Vietnam vs America, and the Umbarans are the Vietnamese
Can not help to think of an alternative timeline where the umbarans, mandalorians, and the chiss ended up working together to fight the republic and win and afterwards fight the yuuzhan-vong.
the only ppl i think focused more on war were the mandolorions
Yes more tech related videos. Love it keep your work up.
You've done quite a few videos on Umbara, mostly the Battle of Umbara. Would you do a video on Umbara itself and Umbara society?
The Republic, Empire, Rebellion, and the New Republic could use the tech for new ships vehicles, etc.
I think the Umbara Arc what when I sat up and took notice of Clone Wars. Before that I kind of had it on as a in the "Background" show.
Now this makes me question: who would win, if Mandalorians and Umbarans had to fight each other in a war?
Several plants would end in that war.
The electromagnetic plasma cannons sort of remind me of Wraith mortars from Halo.
Always thought those starfighters looked like pretzels.
Mobile heavy cannons literally could disintegrate troops alive which is the terrifying thing about them besides the strong ray shields.
I am completely surprised we never saw the Empire making any use of this tech after they took over. Assuming Palpatine didn't see the Umbarans as a threat and had the planet nuked or something.
So wait could be umbaran go up against the Mandalorians
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
@@geetslys That’s my point who would win
@@J0hnnythaj0k3r mandos,
@@apexpredator2699 I don’t know they seem pretty equal at the moment
@@J0hnnythaj0k3r i mean, its not like the clones, the mandos would probably do guerilla raids, like the umbarans and their worst mounted flame throwers and missles could destroy their artillery, but besides that the mandos have beskar armor
I just started rewatching the Umbara arc. This will make it more interesting.
That giant centipede would have scared me, like "Great. Now they're giant-sized too"
Have you ever heard of the Umbara Campaign?? Doubt you would. The 501st and 212th legions would never tell you about it.
I absolutely LOVED those episodes and Tech that they had
those episoedes were some of the best i've ever seen
Alien dark elves with Covenant tech
Electro magnetic plasma cannons...
So, basically just blasters, but very big and with a less stable containment field for every individual bolt?
I'm guessing the super big advantage is that they can use local atmosphere for plasma instead of Tibanna gas, that by itself would make them sought after, just for economic reasons!
Granted I am just basing that hypothesis on the fact that they have big open rails and visible no gas canisters, but it's a good guess...
Wow! Just wow! Didn't know that Umbarans wore helmets which were filled with stimulents, not oxigen(yep, that confused me. Thought they somehow couldn't breathe their own air due to the planet's dark atmosphere) to make them stronger. As many others in the comments said, they were in fact centuries ahead in technology.
*4:23** LOOK IN THE BACKGROUND* - Is that a command post like in Battlefront 2? LOL. 😂🎮
It's from the RTS game star wars empire at war, specifically one of the various mods that adds in umbara as a map.
I've played that map so many times that I could recognise it anywhere.
@@Benthesniperof8 ooooohhh I think I used to have that game! I was younger and didnt know how to play RTS games well so I guess I never played it. 😭 Thanks!
@@SquirrelASMR the Gold edition on steam is dirt cheap. And steam edition is best edition for ease of use moding. Just in case you were interested in knowing.
@@Benthesniperof8 thanks! I will look into it actually!
The Empire actually started using Umbaran tech, and from the sounds of it, had a fairly cordial relationship with Umbara. I always like to think of Umbara as a hiccup in Palpatine's plan since he didn't orchestrate the senate murders, which is why he full sends republic forces and makes sure that the CIS are unable to land troops on the planet to reinforce the heavily outnumbered and outgunned Umbarans. This is also backed up by the fact that the Empire, unlike the republic, was perfectly happy to allow Umbara to be independent, and it was rebel aggression which saw Umbaran tech being stolen and used against imperial civilians that forced the Empire to occupy the planet.
Umbarans: *I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you*
That arc was the Vietnam of clone wars
Remember the guns that sounds like alarm clocks?
Umbara the Vietnam of starwars
I'd say WW2 German Army. Highly advanced weaponry, used stimulants to help keep them awake/push them harder, yet eventually lost to an enemy who had inferior technology
They're in the trees!!!
@@tiredman99 we only cause we had more people and resources they didn't.
First time I saw the arc back in the day, Umbaran tech reminded me of the Scrin, so the Umbarans were the aliens behind Tiberium lel
None of these developments would have changed the Clone Wars because Supreme Chancellor Palpatine was controlling the entire war on both sides to a pre-determined conclusion anyway.
Republic: want umbara
Umbarans: hehe no
Choosing not to share your technology is one thing. But the Republic could have picked apart wrecks, suits, blasters, or intact vehicles in captured bases. The only ones who even touched an Umbaran weapon after it was finished shooting were a couple of rogue clones.
I read somewhere in the comments of an Ubaran Arc clip that the helmets were likely used to pump in stimulants, but I disregarded the notion; thinking that they probably just couldn’t breathe on their own world.
At the same time though, I felt that didn’t really make sense when I did a double take.
Another reason could become palpatine didn't want either side to have the technology because if the republic and the C.I.S. had gotten their hands on it either side could end the war before palpatine was ready for it to end.
Perhaps that's why he didn't have the republic salvage any of the umbaran technology after recapturing the planet.
Sidious/palpatine also probably had sly moore make sure the tech didn't fall into the hands of either side.
0:46 when the kid won’t shut up
Bruh what
The Mandalorians had the skills for a fight while the Umbarans had the technology for one.
The l8-l9 would have been extremely useful on umbara
The attention sargent on deck gets me every time
I would have loved to see them merge with the Mando's that would have been beastly indeed yo to think a merging of those two societies nobody would have been able to ever beat them....Mandalorian and Umbaran technology mixed like holy fuck nuggets McGee...lol
If blasters cauterize wounds, how was the battle of Umbara a bloodbath?
The Umbaran weapons could also vaporize
the bolts dont always cauterize, both leia and han where hit by bolts and bled from the wound.
@@phoenixraider42 it depends on the quality of the blaster. In the force awakens, poe's low quality blaster didn't cauterize.
I don't think the Umbaran technology was actually more advanced than most of the galaxy, just that they had different preferences with what they had. Ball lightning-esque projectiles, for instance, are things we see elsewhere, including large scale ion weaponry like the Seperatist battleship at the start of the series and the ion bomb partway through, as well as on the smaller scale with cultures seen as being relatively primitive like the Gungans. The plasma ball guns are fairly powerful with single shots, but they're also bulky, unwieldy, have a relatively low rate of fire, and appear to have a significant delay between the weapon being activated and the weapon actually firing. It wouldn't surprise me if it's a technology already known to the rest of the galaxy, but which isn't used because when push comes to shove, "conventional" weapons are more practical. (And there may be something about Umbara specifically that makes their tech more practical there than it would be in most other places.)
I'm also sceptical that the Republic would consider berserker gas to be a bonus. Such narcotics usually come with downsides when it comes to tactical reasoning, and one of the big advantages of biological sapient soldiers in Star Wars is that they can usually outthink droids. Berserker chemicals, especially when used in an abrupt fashion across a fighting force that's already at war and hasn't had time to adjust to them, could end up doing more harm than good even if they had the same effect on clone biology as they did on the Umbarans.
Umbran's Are Badass guys
agreed
I feel Jedi would do very well in a umbaran starfighter. It's a reflex based fighter that had organic, irregular movement.
Wow, I just rewatched it
Umbarans: assassination is a-okay if you get away with it
*Umbaran senator gets murdered*
Umbarans: what that’s illegal
if plot armor wasn't a thing in star wars the umbarans would've won
I would love to see more technology videos.
1:03 - What does he say after "native"?
I hope we see more of umbara in future
Star Wars: A long time ago in a galaxy far away
Star Trek: Yeah we know it’s futuristic we ant gonna lie and say otherwise
Umbara's Campaign is a combination of the nightmarish guerrilla warfare style of Vietnam and civil wars in Middle East and Latin America with the insane speed of the Blitzkrieg tactics used by Nazi Wehrmacht against France and England at the start of WWII in the european theater (best example would be how the Wehrmacht completely distracted both forces in Belgium fronts, meanwhile they launched a surprise attack from the Ardennes, trapping them in a circular maneuver , decimating French forces and forcing the British to make a last desperate naval escape in now popular Dunkirk incident), and also the better technology they had. For the first time in the Clone Wars, the GAR was outmatched in quality. Also, Umbara's geography doesn't helps too much. The planet itself looks terrifying, it looks like Satan's hell, without lava, but it gives too many negative emotions that is perfect for psychological warfare.
And I'm completely sure that if the CIS actually deployed their droid hordes, the Republic would have been so decimated they would have been forced to cancel the entire invasion and define the entire campaign as a failure. It would have been like how the Vietcong kicked the butt of the US Army during Vietnam War in real history, but amplified to the next level.
What I love about Umbara's arc is that it shows that no matter how advanced is the Republic, no matter how close they were to start the Outer Rim Sieges after so long of having to be in the defensive against the droid hordes, no matter how much experience our bois in black and white and "heroes" had until this point, the difficulty of war never changed. Always being brutal, giving the lesson that in conflict, you can't never drop your guard.
So the Umbarans are basically the Telvanni?
Our own military gave the men Adderall during the storming the beaches at the opening of WW2.
Why didn't Umbaran military tech get adapted and put into widespread use in the Republic and Empire after the fall of Umbara? To clarify, I understand the Umbaran's were secretive of their technology and capabilities but after the planets downfall, what prevented the Republic from capturing acquiring and adapting the tech?
My guess is fail-safe devices in case they ever got out or captured.
why didnt the republic just capture and study umbaran tech after they captured the airbase with working starfighters and most likely umbaran blasters aswell?
Note umbara focused on ground and air based tech. There star ships where serverly lacking in there advanced fields. Which makes more scenes when you consider the umbarans may have preferred fortified planetary Warfar and gurila warfare
"Oh wow we managed to kill and capture a dead Umbaran soldier who had all of their equipment on them, should we take it back to research it?" "Nah leave it they would get mad."
you captured a dead body? lol
@@johnynoway9127 War crimes are often morally confusing :D
"Hmmm Those blasters are slightly better Than ours, but they are very expensive as well, so good for a small military but awful for a large military like ours, and this gas is basically a narcotic, do I really have to tell why using narcotics is a bad idea?"
When one only knows war, its best to be the greatest at it.
This is the way.
@@olafgurke4699 indeed, and those who know only peace, never know adversity.
My only question is, if Umbaran technology was so advanced, then how did the Empire easily steamroll over them? Because, considering how advanced the Umbaran HMC is, not even an AT-AT would be enough. Realistically, the Empire would've just sued for peace with the Umbarans, not the other way around.
The main issue is lack of good enough fleet. Excellent land tech could win them multiple battles but they still could be nuked from orbit by Venators/Star destroyers.
Wasn’t there an Imperial version of that six-legged Umbaran artillery piece? Too bad that Star Wars app was discontinued…
Wise of them not to share. The republic would have had an easier time winning
I wish there would be a story line in a new show where the rakata came back some how like were cloned or something and re built the starforge
Loved the tech and look of these guys, such a cool faction
The Umbaran Campaign was basically the Star Wars' version of the Vietnam War from the American perspective, *but worse.*
Yes more tech please