If Ridley Scott hadn’t hedged his bets when exploring the engineer lore in Prometheus/Covenant and instead committed to it - they would be some of the greatest movies oat.
If an android was human enough, made to actually eat and could smoke it could sustain an alien and when born would be the biomechanical version of the alien from the original
Should have just let Scott and Spaihts produce a standalone trilogy exploring the mythos of the engineers AND THEN tie it into the Alien franchise towards the end. It'd have been a rewarding revelation for the audience and not built up everyone's expectations going in.
Kroft .... You are the master of Alien/Engineer lore Thankyou so much for all the effort you put in! The result of your work are the best lore videos on the Earth❤
Kroft, I gotta tell ya, every time you post a vid i HAVE to watch it. I remember first watching one of your videos 4 years ago, and you reignited my love for the Alien films. You think EXACTLY the way i think when it comes to the prequels. I loved them. In fact, i loved ALL the movies. I also loved the comics. You deserve A LOT more subscribers. Honestly, i was thinking about starting an ALIEN podcast, and i would love to team up with you on it. But i'm no one and i don't even have any vids. But i know its just a pipe dream. Anyway, thanks for ur vids bro. Keep it up!
Thank you for all the research and work you put into making this content available to us. You're the only channel I watch for the Alien franchise information.
They are an intriguing enough idea/movie monster to carry their own franchise. They really should have doubled down on them instead of course correcting.
The engineer and Human relationship is literally like a kid engineer who tried to make an ant Colony in an aquarium box, didnt like what he saw, and pour a bucket of water to drown them. some ants survived, and he tried to take a bottle of pesticide to kill them but accidentally sprayed his eyes/mouth and died. The ants then walked on the pesticide residuals and walked into the kitchen, touched some food and killed the whole household.
At this point, the only aspect of the franchise that still piques my interest is the engineers' home world and their society. The predators, Xenomorphs of various kinds, and everything in between have become old and repetitive. I didn’t even have the patience to sit through Romulus-summaries on x1.5 speed were enough for me.
Thank you for clearing up a misunderstanding I had concerning David's aberrant behavior. I assumed that David had been programed in a "traditional" manner avoiding the manifestations of the more unpleasant human aspects. Being an advanced form of AI he could learn, manifest a persona, but be able to dodge the toxic idiosyncrasies of highly developed personalities. Your supposition that David contains elements of Weyland's personality, (along with Weyland's personality disorders), seems to indicate that beyond traditional programing David has been "imbued" somehow beyond normal methods. Of course, I appreciate that this is a photo-play and you can't have an engaging villain who's evil is hard wired in. Then they are merely a malfunctioning machine, boring. However, humans being extremely psychophysiology complex could we ever pull someone's, anyone's, psyche and implant it with any reasonable guarantee that we would not be creating a future mental patient?
If anything they’ve distanced themselves from Engineers. If humans have already ‘engineered’ black goo since the prequels, there’s no need for Creators.
learning about prometheus/alien lore makes me feel like a scientist kkme shaw discovering clues to make more sense of what the movies are about, i also love more theory stuff about relations between our religion, philosophy and history which served as inspiration for these movies
also the engineers at the beginning of prometheus could possibly of been from around 4 billion years ago, beginning of life on earth, silly to think they would just end an experiment like that due to our primitivity. But, That ridiculous amount of time must clearly mean that in their culture they stagnate their own evolution to an unbelievable degree. This could be so they change as little as possible while diverse life flurashes throughought the galaxy around them.
What's going on? I thought it was established that the planet david bombed was not "paradise" and not the engineers homeworld and the race that got bombed were not engineers but another civilisation created buy the Engineers, hence the pimitiveness of them and the worship of the juggernaut naught. But now theres statements ofdavid bombing engineers in which he did not do. Or is this clips from older videos before this was realised?
The sacrificial engineer scene the older engineer bows his head you can see the black liquid flowing in his head @41:40, when tricking severed engineer head scene the black liquid also reactivates, what if these genetically modified engineers are banished from real engineer race.
Personally, I couldn't care any less about xenomorphs. The only reason why I watched Prometheus when it first came out was because of the Engineers. I mean, I never understood the logic behind the Alien movies prior to the Prometheus movie. Humans had the technology to build android, so why use humans? Sure, you can argue that humans have imagination while A.I. don't. But even if that's the case, why send a team where the majority are human? If I were the CEO of a company and I wanted to increase the success rate of the space expeditions my company is sending, I would send a team where 80% is android and 20% is human. And if I really want to be efficient, most of the androids I would be sending won't even look human. I would design them in a way where they are literal walking tools who could perform their tasks wherever they are. Anyhow, this is why I couldn't care any less about xenomorphs or the Alien movies because the logic of their expeditions doesn't even make sense to me. I hope they will continue the story of the Engineers. That's the only thing I care about.
you know, what gets me is that this sounds very realistic just that human scientists feel no remorse whatsoever in expermenting on mice and other "lower" animals. Ai and robots would probably see us int he same way we see mice which is why we should always be pushing for animal rights and teaching that level of compassion to machines.
It'd make sense that Shaw was infected through the process of egg fertilisation, potentially like a human baby the alien could've initially needed to be connected to her via an equivalent of an umbilical cord. 🤔
Well the movies would imply that Engineers are the creators of Humanity and possibly had something to do with the wildlife on our planet (maybe). But in Prometheus we see that Engineers aren’t the Gods we thought they were. So we are left with the same chicken and the egg question, who created Engineers? Maybe a true God? Maybe the chain just continues on up
Does the Deacon have acidic blood, too ? 🤔 Did you see the size of that facehugger ? Unless the blood that the engineer was drinking was created by a normal facehugger to create the first Deacon.🍸 which the first deacon's blood wasn't acidic in nature. But it had mutating qualities to it to create humanity and more advanced life forms like the predators.
Now that Alien Romulus is successful Scott should go for Alien: Paradise, this should be final saga before alien Full complete story on Engineers and David
"know that i love you and what i am about to do is to protect you" sounds more like he means mankind. he wants to improve them so they can survive the wider galaxy.
Hey Kroft! Can you give me some information I just want to confirm with my thoughts. When David shows up the super up close shot of his finger and thumb on the black goo, are the triangles on his fingerprint to show he's a specific ai robot and ID? I just realized that his thumbprint is probably a special effect, or latex piece.😂 In addition, that's an amazing detail!
I would love to see the tools and building materials the engineers used to build their ships, computers, light sources. Were they made of exotic metals, exotic wood from a tree found only on their planet? What tools did they use to create the building material out of these exotic metal.
Ok. Way too much emphisis placed on nipples, my guy. America automaticaly airbrushes them out in a great deal of media and has done for many years. So that may not be the clue you think it is!
I hope the engineers return for the future of the Alien franchise, in series, films and comics games. There's no way they're all dead, they must have colonies on other planets just like humans. I hope they show more of their advanced technology in a much better way than Prometheus and Covenant, In the concept art and original script for Prometheus or Alien: Engineers, the Engineers' technology is described as something so advanced that it seems like magic. Will we have any explanations as to why that space jockey was bigger than the other engineers?
@@drsatyamupadhyayno argument so you resort to insults. At least zendaya had a point… bro is literally making a playlist into a video with NO extra work 😂 Could’ve been a remastered or updated version of old videos but instead we get glued together videos lol
It's nice to see you discarded Alien Romulus and instead continue making videos about Prometheus and Covenant which are more interesting. I would like to know what happened to LV-223, the planet in Covenant, Deacon, mystery of the black goo, what happened to David and Daniels. Romulus brought nothing new to the franchise. Bunch of teens trapped in a space ship full of xenomorphs. Boring.
aN engineer Statue is localized in Guatemala, Central America. That is called the ''Caucasian Head'' in Guatemala. It looks that the Mayas were the engineers.
I disagree that David hates humans as he represents the perfect human. Able to learn skills a human would take a life time instantly. He loves our music and customs. He was loyal to his creator but on his death he went from an apprentice to King of the Universe. He knows humans have traits that make us great and others are pure evil, as a god he wants to make the perfect organism, but as he never dies the title of God will never be given away to anyone. Humans are his greatest threat. He didn't kill engineers he killed the Engineers creation (A creation where ppl lived in harmony with themselves and nature) making humans and himself superior and greater gods. The Engineers look like a DNA modified race.
I hate how this is playing out, don't know if it's studio meddling or bad box office sales and negative reviews or what but Scott should have stuck to his vision and finished the story he wanted to tell. A lot of great, bloated-budget, high-dollar actor horror films are panned when released and become beloved cult classics later on while horrible, cheap movies make a fortune and non-stop, horrible, cheap sequels.
I mean my guess was if the people on planet 4 were engineers, then david destroyed them because they were thoroughly unimpressive. I mean we all think they were underwhelming 😂
I mean it was the engineers home planet. I don't know why people find the engineers that fascinating. What you could go down the story is instead of the space jockey from 1979 being an engineer in a suit, just have the engineers be mimicking the space jockey technology. move forward with space jockey lore, that's more interesting to me anyways Also isn't this a re-upload I swear I've seen this video before
@@CoercedJab no you're right it is a mash of different uploads But I've even seen this mashup 1 hour long video already In fact it was my introduction to his content
If Ridley Scott hadn’t hedged his bets when exploring the engineer lore in Prometheus/Covenant and instead committed to it - they would be some of the greatest movies oat.
Pretty sure studio interference was the biggest issue..more so with Covenant
Would've been Avatar on steroids 💯💯👽
I wish we had more of engineer homeworld.
What's hedged his bets mean?
If an android was human enough, made to actually eat and could smoke it could sustain an alien and when born would be the biomechanical version of the alien from the original
Should have just let Scott and Spaihts produce a standalone trilogy exploring the mythos of the engineers AND THEN tie it into the Alien franchise towards the end. It'd have been a rewarding revelation for the audience and not built up everyone's expectations going in.
Yeah but would MGMT at WT fund something like that?
Kroft .... You are the master of Alien/Engineer lore
Thankyou so much for all the effort you put in!
The result of your work are the best lore videos on the Earth❤
Several of his videos are based on a fanfiction script, but apart from that his research is great
Kroft… I need to sleep man!!!! It’s 2 am over here. I guess no sleep
I don't need sleep, I need mf answers!
Bro it’s 5am
Im still confused
@@mshahzaib247right
@@mshahzaib247😂😂😂 ain’t that the truth!
@@Sorewaitai07:00AM
Thanks for still covering Prometheus and Covenant, the lore is so interesting
Yeah, Romulus brought nothing new to the franchise, just a bunch of teens trapped in a space ship full of aliens. Boring.
Mannn you make the best Alien videos. Thoroughly enjoy them. Huge fan of yours. Thank you so much 🙏
You bet your sweet a** he does!
Kroft, I gotta tell ya, every time you post a vid i HAVE to watch it. I remember first watching one of your videos 4 years ago, and you reignited my love for the Alien films. You think EXACTLY the way i think when it comes to the prequels. I loved them. In fact, i loved ALL the movies. I also loved the comics. You deserve A LOT more subscribers. Honestly, i was thinking about starting an ALIEN podcast, and i would love to team up with you on it. But i'm no one and i don't even have any vids. But i know its just a pipe dream. Anyway, thanks for ur vids bro. Keep it up!
Both prometheus and covenant were absolutely perfect
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Prometheus yes covenant folded to Hollywood pressure
The engineer speaking shouldn't have been cut, tho
I loved them both too.
Covenant has a haunting ending that I still think about.
@@Placid_Falcon exactly,loved to see it finished someday,but idk 😔
if you're new here turn the video on 1.25x speed
TikTok brain ,huh ?
I turn the speed into 0.75, it feels more mysterious that way.
Ty!
Thank you for all the research and work you put into making this content available to us. You're the only channel I watch for the Alien franchise information.
Engineers are fascinating
I wish they did a movie on that
They are an intriguing enough idea/movie monster to carry their own franchise. They really should have doubled down on them instead of course correcting.
No. This engineers twist completely ruined alien franchise and lore. Some questions need to remain a mystery. Bad writing.
The engineer and Human relationship is literally like a kid engineer who tried to make an ant Colony in an aquarium box, didnt like what he saw, and pour a bucket of water to drown them. some ants survived, and he tried to take a bottle of pesticide to kill them but accidentally sprayed his eyes/mouth and died. The ants then walked on the pesticide residuals and walked into the kitchen, touched some food and killed the whole household.
At this point, the only aspect of the franchise that still piques my interest is the engineers' home world and their society. The predators, Xenomorphs of various kinds, and everything in between have become old and repetitive. I didn’t even have the patience to sit through Romulus-summaries on x1.5 speed were enough for me.
Krofts voice is good for the soul
It has already been debunked on if David created the Xenomorph in a directo interview.
David is no different than his creator Peter. A flawed individual. And he doesn't realize it because he has gone mad.
A machine can't go mad. It's a machine- they malfunction.
"Kroft is here..." LFGO!!!
Watch at 1.25 speed as Kroft slows his videos down
😂 thanks his voice was bothering me ❤
@@MarkPereira-jz4ct yes. It’s so annoying. He needs to sort it out.
@@prpwnage9296 I'm assuming its deliberate.. makes his videos 25% longer .. and that equals more money
@@MarkPereira-jz4ct disgusting to waste his respected viewers time
Thank you for clearing up a misunderstanding I had concerning David's aberrant behavior. I assumed that David had been programed in a "traditional" manner avoiding the manifestations of the more unpleasant human aspects. Being an advanced form of AI he could learn, manifest a persona, but be able to dodge the toxic idiosyncrasies of highly developed personalities. Your supposition that David contains elements of Weyland's personality, (along with Weyland's personality disorders), seems to indicate that beyond traditional programing David has been "imbued" somehow beyond normal methods. Of course, I appreciate that this is a photo-play and you can't have an engaging villain who's evil is hard wired in. Then they are merely a malfunctioning machine, boring. However, humans being extremely psychophysiology complex could we ever pull someone's, anyone's, psyche and implant it with any reasonable guarantee that we would not be creating a future mental patient?
I was disheartened when there was not much in Romulus.
There could have been nothing tbh. Pretty cool how it was mentioned lol
If anything they’ve distanced themselves from Engineers. If humans have already ‘engineered’ black goo since the prequels, there’s no need for Creators.
learning about prometheus/alien lore makes me feel like a scientist kkme shaw discovering clues to make more sense of what the movies are about, i also love more theory stuff about relations between our religion, philosophy and history which served as inspiration for these movies
Dam I wish they went this way with new film 😭
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK KROFT!!!!
Really hope Ridley finishes his prequel trilogy!!, but actually focussing on the Engineers this time! & no more stupid crews.
I agree
also the engineers at the beginning of prometheus could possibly of been from around 4 billion years ago, beginning of life on earth, silly to think they would just end an experiment like that due to our primitivity.
But, That ridiculous amount of time must clearly mean that in their culture they stagnate their own evolution to an unbelievable degree. This could be so they change as little as possible while diverse life flurashes throughought the galaxy around them.
Thank you Kroft
Rewatched Covenant and really want more David, sucks we may never see the character again
Awesome explaination
What's going on? I thought it was established that the planet david bombed was not "paradise" and not the engineers homeworld and the race that got bombed were not engineers but another civilisation created buy the Engineers, hence the pimitiveness of them and the worship of the juggernaut naught.
But now theres statements ofdavid bombing engineers in which he did not do.
Or is this clips from older videos before this was realised?
I sooke too soon, the 2nd segment answered me lol
The sacrificial engineer scene the older engineer bows his head you can see the black liquid flowing in his head @41:40, when tricking severed engineer head scene the black liquid also reactivates, what if these genetically modified engineers are banished from real engineer race.
Personally, I couldn't care any less about xenomorphs. The only reason why I watched Prometheus when it first came out was because of the Engineers.
I mean, I never understood the logic behind the Alien movies prior to the Prometheus movie. Humans had the technology to build android, so why use humans? Sure, you can argue that humans have imagination while A.I. don't. But even if that's the case, why send a team where the majority are human? If I were the CEO of a company and I wanted to increase the success rate of the space expeditions my company is sending, I would send a team where 80% is android and 20% is human.
And if I really want to be efficient, most of the androids I would be sending won't even look human. I would design them in a way where they are literal walking tools who could perform their tasks wherever they are.
Anyhow, this is why I couldn't care any less about xenomorphs or the Alien movies because the logic of their expeditions doesn't even make sense to me.
I hope they will continue the story of the Engineers. That's the only thing I care about.
Looking forward to the third movie to tie it all together. Love all these films and especially the engineers storyline
INSTANT subscribed!! Please keep more Engineer / Alien content coming. i feel lucky to find the channel
You need to be in the next Aliens film as a scientist or engineer there to explain what's going on.
The space jockey had a hole in his chest…how would the aliens infect an android???
What
@@randyphillips6506 what what? I said what I meant to say.
The more I learn, the more I become lost 😂 there’s so much. More than I could ever imagine going on!
I am one of the five people that actually enjoyed Prometheus, but it had so much more fucking potential than Ridley Scott let it have.
Really enjoy your channel , looking forward to watching Romulus on Wednesday 😊
liked before watching.
He’s back!
you know, what gets me is that this sounds very realistic just that human scientists feel no remorse whatsoever in expermenting on mice and other "lower" animals. Ai and robots would probably see us int he same way we see mice which is why we should always be pushing for animal rights and teaching that level of compassion to machines.
I WANT A MOVIE THAT JUST FOCUSES ON THE ENGENEER, A THREE HOURS MOVIE FR
It'd make sense that Shaw was infected through the process of egg fertilisation, potentially like a human baby the alien could've initially needed to be connected to her via an equivalent of an umbilical cord. 🤔
Engineers created human minds life. Who created them? Who created animals? Who created the planets?
Well the movies would imply that Engineers are the creators of Humanity and possibly had something to do with the wildlife on our planet (maybe). But in Prometheus we see that Engineers aren’t the Gods we thought they were. So we are left with the same chicken and the egg question, who created Engineers? Maybe a true God? Maybe the chain just continues on up
“They want to leave earth” he’s talking about humans dude. David wants to annihilate humanity
Does the Deacon have acidic blood, too ? 🤔 Did you see the size of that facehugger ? Unless the blood that the engineer was drinking was created by a normal facehugger to create the first Deacon.🍸 which the first deacon's blood wasn't acidic in nature. But it had mutating qualities to it to create humanity and more advanced life forms like the predators.
The Engineer wasn't drinking 'Deacon blood'. That notion comes from the Draft 17 script, which is fanfiction. Kroft mistook it for a real early draft.
i always thought Chris Oram with his line " i met the devil when i was a child and i never forgotten him" i thought he was sexualabused as a kid.
Kroft i ca-n put your Voice whit the Same Story on repeat,i sleep Like a Baby 😂😂😂
Now that Alien Romulus is successful
Scott should go for Alien: Paradise, this should be final saga before alien
Full complete story on Engineers and David
time to rewatch all alien movies then (except romulus lmao what was that)
Kroft , that wasnt an Engineer planet, it was just another planet seeded by the Engineers
Kroft talks about Movies, wanna collab you deserve more subscribers
Did you buy yours?
If that was the engineers home planet, that ship woulda been blown out of the sky before it got close
Thank you bro!!! 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿😭😭😭
If he transferred his mind to his body he wouldn’t have scars because the body doesn’t have them. Not because the body can heal.
Make the flicking film Disney
The engineers certainly have more than one planet and defense capabilities that destroyed David's ship
"know that i love you and what i am about to do is to protect you" sounds more like he means mankind. he wants to improve them so they can survive the wider galaxy.
Take a shot every time he says nipples 🥃🥴
Basically story about the fallen and nephilim
Exactly. Sumerian religion too which predates the Bible.
Hey Kroft! Can you give me some information I just want to confirm with my thoughts. When David shows up the super up close shot of his finger and thumb on the black goo, are the triangles on his fingerprint to show he's a specific ai robot and ID? I just realized that his thumbprint is probably a special effect, or latex piece.😂 In addition, that's an amazing detail!
I would love to see the tools and building materials the engineers used to build their ships, computers, light sources. Were they made of exotic metals, exotic wood from a tree found only on their planet? What tools did they use to create the building material out of these exotic metal.
I'm just here to vent about how much I hate being alive. I'm ready to go to hell now.
Same
I pray for the mental health and wealth of you both
Human life is sacred read victor frankle logotherpy
Ok. Way too much emphisis placed on nipples, my guy. America automaticaly airbrushes them out in a great deal of media and has done for many years. So that may not be the clue you think it is!
59:00 - the cup is stardust; a drug
Losing Shaw was the nail in the coffin. This series has no idea what it’s doing. It’s Star Wars again
I hope the engineers return for the future of the Alien franchise, in series, films and comics games. There's no way they're all dead, they must have colonies on other planets just like humans. I hope they show more of their advanced technology in a much better way than Prometheus and Covenant, In the concept art and original script for Prometheus or Alien: Engineers, the Engineers' technology is described as something so advanced that it seems like magic. Will we have any explanations as to why that space jockey was bigger than the other engineers?
If David put his mind into Walter's body, that would be uploading not downloading.
Are you uploading the same video every couple months to make money???? Ya weirdo 😂
Who puts Zendaya on her profile picture???? Ya weirdo 😂
@@drsatyamupadhyayno argument so you resort to insults. At least zendaya had a point… bro is literally making a playlist into a video with NO extra work 😂
Could’ve been a remastered or updated version of old videos but instead we get glued together videos lol
It's nice to see you discarded Alien Romulus and instead continue making videos about Prometheus and Covenant which are more interesting. I would like to know what happened to LV-223, the planet in Covenant, Deacon, mystery of the black goo, what happened to David and Daniels. Romulus brought nothing new to the franchise. Bunch of teens trapped in a space ship full of xenomorphs. Boring.
Agree everyone i talked to seemed to like Romulus, but i found it a bit bland.
Who removed the boundary? I would love to see David come back!!
aN engineer Statue is localized in Guatemala, Central America. That is called the ''Caucasian Head'' in Guatemala. It looks that the Mayas were the engineers.
KROFT IS HERE
Kroft engineers my unhealthy obessession of aliens and androids.
Sometimes to watch a video!!! First we have to watch kroft 👊👊👊
I wanna see alien Awakening! ❤
Yo i love you man! Love hearing Hello kroft is here.... Like fuck yes man. Lets get into the loooreeee
Autocorrect changed Kroft to left...... Ugh
I disagree that David hates humans as he represents the perfect human. Able to learn skills a human would take a life time instantly. He loves our music and customs. He was loyal to his creator but on his death he went from an apprentice to King of the Universe. He knows humans have traits that make us great and others are pure evil, as a god he wants to make the perfect organism, but as he never dies the title of God will never be given away to anyone. Humans are his greatest threat. He didn't kill engineers he killed the Engineers creation (A creation where ppl lived in harmony with themselves and nature) making humans and himself superior and greater gods. The Engineers look like a DNA modified race.
I hate how this is playing out, don't know if it's studio meddling or bad box office sales and negative reviews or what but Scott should have stuck to his vision and finished the story he wanted to tell. A lot of great, bloated-budget, high-dollar actor horror films are panned when released and become beloved cult classics later on while horrible, cheap movies make a fortune and non-stop, horrible, cheap sequels.
I can here theories,but we Need story whit covenant Go further!!!i love all Alien Movies and predators!!!❤❤❤
.... I wud not be surprised if the creator of this Video turns up to be a Engineer 🤣
I came for the music. 😅 kidding!
I mean my guess was if the people on planet 4 were engineers, then david destroyed them because they were thoroughly unimpressive. I mean we all think they were underwhelming 😂
Hey Kroft, why did David's ship crash? Was it shot down?
I mean it was the engineers home planet.
I don't know why people find the engineers that fascinating.
What you could go down the story is instead of the space jockey from 1979 being an engineer in a suit, just have the engineers be mimicking the space jockey technology.
move forward with space jockey lore, that's more interesting to me anyways
Also isn't this a re-upload I swear I've seen this video before
People find it fascinating because it’s basically Nephilim lore being stirred in our collective consciousness 💀
They basically cheated and poorly stuck together a playlist of old videos to make a new video…
@@CoercedJab no you're right it is a mash of different uploads
But I've even seen this mashup 1 hour long video already
In fact it was my introduction to his content
Alien resurrection is the best alien movie
in what universe?
@@hoodbabyslime24clown world
a 1 hour long video from kroft dont mind if i do
Reruns poorly glued together tbh
Walter beat his ass
David didnt kill any engineers cause they were not engineers on that planet
x1.25 squad
Too careful to reveal secrets of thousands of years ago maybe. He is Cowardly director.
U said that humanoids in covenant arent engineers
Hey Kroft.... mind if I take a stab at your accent? Estonia?
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David is the most interesting character in the Alien mythology
pin me
Are you Christ ?