Short answer: You really need to watch Char's Counterattack. Long answer: The psychoframe is an alloy which resonates with human brainwaves. It can make machines respond faster to you and also help track down opponents. The shield/bazooka detachment was an extremely badass trick Amuro did in the movie involving his personal zipline and a fight with the Sazabi.
in earlier installments some of the mobile suits were full length but there was little to no animation to it. super deformed mode is pretty helpful since it concentrates on the units tactics and movements rather than the characters dialog.
yes, he has intuition which is a mix of flash and lock on. he doesn't need that much hp, but a little boost to 6k helped me survive a lot of hits that would be near 1-hits.
general question guys, i love all the gundams in this game and i was wondering, is there any combination attacks of gundams from the different series working together? like UC with GW, GX, GG? i seen it in the ACE series, i wonder if there was anything like that here; god i would love to read their dialogue among themselves
psyco frame is an MS hardware introduced in the UC char counterattack era that enhances New Type related proformance. e.g. funnel attacks (think of it as a zero or seed system for the New Types) as for the shield and the bazooka beside for sake of maximin mobility when amuro does his fly around like a mad man shit the only other reason i can think of is for dramatic effect of the battle scene.
@alchoholicsementhful In 0:21 it shows in the description that Hi-Nu is using a beam cannon shooting it out of his shield. I don't see the cannon in my MG model is it supposed to replace the mini missle's that were attached in Nu gundams shield? If it is doesn't Hi-Nu already have a beam rifle?
Could you explain the "newtype flash" in episode 39 of Destiny then? I'm fairly sure that if he was using the quantum communications system then he wouldn't have a newtype flash.
Oh yes, that's right! I forgot about Hyperion. It was a nice little unit. The beam shield gave it a tremendous advantage but it also had its flaws (burned battery power like crazy forcing Canard to get a N-Jammer Canceler, not impervious to everything), and it had a nice, basic well-rounded armament, but nothing too ridiculous, and it looked neat, too.
Yep. Remember, we're talking about the crazy nutcase who managed to beat up a state-of-the-art transforming Assimar with a big, clumsy transport plane. And don't forget Shiro Amada, who defeated a prototype high-maneuverability Zaku with just a Ball. We saw some incredible shows of sheer raw skill in UC that we never really saw again afterward - it's like those miraculous skills have been shafted in favor of weapons spamming, for the most part.
Rau Le Crueset actually refers to himself as a Newtype in the series. Until the end of Gundam Seed, Mwu (being genetically related to Rau) is the only one with the spatial awareness to fight off Rau. In Seed/ Seed Destiny, Kira is the perfect coordinator and is shown to have quantum spatial awareness when using Strike Freedom. Even when he fights Rey (who is just a clone of Rau), the two actually start yelling at each other via quantum brain waves.
Heck yeah B-Gundam! Best part in my mind though is when they see it peeking over a hill with a GM and think it its a HUGE Gundam based on its head alone, something along the lines of Bigger than the Perfect Zeong
Not only that, Hi-Nu can form a fin-funnel barrier to protect itself or trap enemy units. That's a massive advantage. In the SEED universe, the only 2 units that could do that were the upgraded "X-Astray" Dreadnought and the Akatsuki.
Wing Zero's map weapon does have wider range, and plus zero system can do some immense damage. But Hi-Nu still outclasses it by far considering it has almost every major real robot strength imaginable plus high hp, far above average armor for a real robot type, and near godlike speed combined with Amuro's high dodge. Its nearly unbeatable...I sent it into the last scenerio by itself once and it almost did the job single handedly.
Ok, just to be sure I understand. ALL of Nu Gundam was a psychoframe, and the T shaped bit was just a sample that Chan had that reacted on its own and flew around the battlefield right? I saw the movie after playing the game, so it was neat to see how much detail they put into these attacks, like the bazooka and shield thing and the sounds the funnels make.
Yes, that is true. He DIDN'T do it himself, and he can't. However, it can also be viewed as Amuro's power in a way. If he didn't take the lead, none of the other guys would have tried to follow his crazy plan either. After he started trying to push, even the enemy began to as well. Though he was powerless himself, it can also be argued that his leadership spirit and charisma was responsible
The best part about that ball? It had a Massive Gundam Face welded to it which actually DECREASED its performance slightly and he killed the last Dom by ejecting it off onto him
Another moment of insane piloting: Umon Samon of Crossbone Gundam (an old geezer and a Newtype) beat 6 Doms in a Ball during the One Year War. Newtype skills or no, that's an insane feat.
Only several bosses on the whole game can cash auto-hit, not alot of them. And honestly, if you get hit by those bosses, even if you boost the HP, it still can finish you in one hit unless you really upgrade a lot, like 3000-4000 HP. I may forgot about this but doesnt Amuro have a flash seishin?
@lemmehaviet No. Hi-Nu Gundam had a specialized high powered beam cannon that was so powerful that the only way it could be powered was by hooking it up to the Ra Cailum. Amuro tries to use it in the novel to take pot shots at the Axis asteroid to destroy it, but it ultimately proves useless.
You're mistaken, funnels don't have their own power sources, they have to constantly dock with the suit for refilling or they run out of fuel. Bits have their own power generators. DRAGOONS and funnels are essentially the same, because both have limited fuel supplies and need to dock with the suit regularly. They also both require quantum brain waves to operate, which is why only Kira, Rau, Rey, and Mwu use them.
Wel, the reason they downscaled them was to make them harder to hit, more manueverable, and cheaper to produce. They still had he insanely durable Gundarium armor, the beam weapon arsenal, and the other fun tricks that made Nu and Hi-Nu powerful, but now in a smaller, deadlier package. And on the topic of the Xi Gundam, hell yes funnel missiles.
ya, but in extra-hard mode, they are really harder. they are smarter with casting and those who can cast direct hit do...and srsly, only 1 attack has to get through to him. equipping amuro with super alloy z helped me a lot and eliminated soft resets
There's a reason why he's considered a legendary UC gundam character... a mix of experience and newtype powers by this point make him one of the best. That and frankly I think the last time someone made Heero better than Amuro, I think Tomino acually killed some people.
No i dont know how to explain it its not the things that attach the funnels under his wings its this long thing under the thruster between the funnels, you know where Nu gundam had the 4 thrusters in his back Hi-Nu only had 2 and these two long things attached to its back what is it? And where is his mega hyper baazoka
Okay, I'll admit, I've been into SRW since F on the Playstation but I've never taken the time to seriously get into the older Gundams. With that out of the way, I'd like to ask for the title of the Hi-Nu Gundam's theme. It's bizarrely hypnotic.
The Hi-Nu Gundam appeared in the novelisation of Char's Counterattack. In the animation, said Gundam was a rushed production as Amuro needed it in a hurry to fight Char. The novel gives a "what if" senario if Amuro had more time to develop his MS. Needless to say, the Hi-Nu is a far more powerful machine then the original RX-93
Just goes to show that you should never underestimate any unit in the Gundam universe. Even a mere ball can be devastating in the hands of the right pilot. XD
However Kira doesn't need the super dragoon as it shows, when he first uses the dragoons, that he has developed spatial awareness. So Kira could just ordinary dragoon systems like providence or dreadnought.
Mutual destruction in the novel? I was hoping for hi-nu's triumph... There're so many people in SEED with spatial powers I gave up comparing them. I'm leaning towards Mu and Morgan though.
yup yup, and its been troubling lots of gundam fans to either label the G gundam series as a real robot or super robot series because of the vast power those gundams possessed.
Amuro is "Mr. Flash" in Super Robot Wars. As in, the seishin was modelled after him. :) I don't think there's a single game in which he doesn't have it.
The scar damage mayb ese permenent because Turn A and X are never shown at a 100%. It's possilbe they have DG cells and can repair much better, however, they are never shown to be at full capability. So that scar may not be there if Turn X "awakens"
You just knew that, once they had psycommu receptors down to an affordable price, they'd slap them on damn near everything INCLUDING missiles. Imagine what other applications they have! Car funnels, elevator funnels, coffee machine funnels... It would be a world you could control with your mind!
Hands down, Amuro is the best Gundam pilot ever. I prefer 'super' robots myself but will always save two slots for 'real' robots - Nu Gundam and Sazabi. Always thought it's a shame how Amuro and Char never managed to get along so it's my own way to make them war buddies.
Yep, and don't forget - no other Newtypes or anything even resembling Newtypes in the other Gundam series and universes can do the kind of metaphysical stuff that the powerful UC Newtypes could - remember the bright green flash that pushed Axis away from Earth? I know that wasn't just Amuro that did that but I've yet to see another Newtype beat that.
"Beyond the Time" The song that plays during the credits to Char's Counterattack.
Short answer: You really need to watch Char's Counterattack.
Long answer: The psychoframe is an alloy which resonates with human brainwaves. It can make machines respond faster to you and also help track down opponents. The shield/bazooka detachment was an extremely badass trick Amuro did in the movie involving his personal zipline and a fight with the Sazabi.
I totaly agree. Hi-Nu is easily a beast of its own kind. Its like a Hybrid Super/Real, plus Amuro is in the cockpit, which just makes it more beatly.
in earlier installments some of the mobile suits were full length but there was little to no animation to it. super deformed mode is pretty helpful since it concentrates on the units tactics and movements rather than the characters dialog.
yes, he has intuition which is a mix of flash and lock on. he doesn't need that much hp, but a little boost to 6k helped me survive a lot of hits that would be near 1-hits.
general question guys, i love all the gundams in this game and i was wondering, is there any combination attacks of gundams from the different series working together? like UC with GW, GX, GG? i seen it in the ACE series, i wonder if there was anything like that here; god i would love to read their dialogue among themselves
I have the Hi Nu gundam modle i just want to know what the things under the funnels and thrusters do
The music is suprisingly soothing...
@Omnicrom Can you explain more on what this Phoenix Gundam is please
i just though of somthing if the hi nu gundam appeared a in star wars could a jedi/sith use the fin funnals like a newtype?
psyco frame is an MS hardware introduced in the UC char counterattack era that enhances New Type related proformance. e.g. funnel attacks (think of it as a zero or seed system for the New Types)
as for the shield and the bazooka beside for sake of maximin mobility when amuro does his fly around like a mad man shit the only other reason i can think of is for dramatic effect of the battle scene.
@alchoholicsementhful In 0:21 it shows in the description that Hi-Nu is using a beam cannon shooting it out of his shield. I don't see the cannon in my MG model is it supposed to replace the mini missle's that were attached in Nu gundams shield? If it is doesn't Hi-Nu already have a beam rifle?
in srwz, nu gundam has one for funnels. also, the regz that amuro pilots has a really sick one, too
This was uploaded 7 years ago and I still come back here.
What is the song that plays when Amuro is attacking?
@Omnicrom Okay then so do you know what it look like it sound like a kickass Gundam that really can take on anything.
@alchoholicsementhful Does Hi-Nu shoot pink, orange, or blue lazer?
@alchoholicsementhful How big is Axis compared to Libra?
@lemmehaviet
Sorry i do not have exact sizes but based on the size of the mobile suits that can be seen, Axis should be substantially larger.
@alchoholicsementhful Woulden't the TBR destroy Axis though?
Love Amuro's style of mindgaming the enemy with his decoy shield.
Could you explain the "newtype flash" in episode 39 of Destiny then? I'm fairly sure that if he was using the quantum communications system then he wouldn't have a newtype flash.
@MilliardoPeacecraftX Hey do you know any info about nightingale?
The cylinders also double as storage tanks for extra propellant.
what is that green flying "T" at the fin funnel attack?
what was the green flashy thing when he used fin funnel?any1 know?
At 1:13 does Hi-Nu use his beam cannon from his beam rifle?
@MilliardoPeacecraftX How many hidden arms?
How strong is the Hyper Mega-Bazooka Launcher compared to the DX satelite cannon or the twin buster rifle?
yeah the Hi-Nu is a awesome gundam it took me 4 whole days to complete 2 and detailing them.
wait i dont get it why is there a green-ish aura thing when he attacks and why did the bazooka and shield detach?
Oh yes, that's right! I forgot about Hyperion. It was a nice little unit. The beam shield gave it a tremendous advantage but it also had its flaws (burned battery power like crazy forcing Canard to get a N-Jammer Canceler, not impervious to everything), and it had a nice, basic well-rounded armament, but nothing too ridiculous, and it looked neat, too.
@ZerogunRivale Wheres this beam comming from?
Anyone know what mechs were with him? I could only catch Gundam Deathscythe and Diana A
Yep. Remember, we're talking about the crazy nutcase who managed to beat up a state-of-the-art transforming Assimar with a big, clumsy transport plane. And don't forget Shiro Amada, who defeated a prototype high-maneuverability Zaku with just a Ball. We saw some incredible shows of sheer raw skill in UC that we never really saw again afterward - it's like those miraculous skills have been shafted in favor of weapons spamming, for the most part.
It's "Beyond the Time" by TM Network. Char's Counterattack's ending theme....sounds perfectly fitting for Amuro.
lock-on i meant, not direct hit.
i know what i mean....
no shields, those r for supers...
@Zen09 They are considered MIA, so there is a possibility they will be brought back for future installments for the franchise.
Rau Le Crueset actually refers to himself as a Newtype in the series. Until the end of Gundam Seed, Mwu (being genetically related to Rau) is the only one with the spatial awareness to fight off Rau. In Seed/ Seed Destiny, Kira is the perfect coordinator and is shown to have quantum spatial awareness when using Strike Freedom. Even when he fights Rey (who is just a clone of Rau), the two actually start yelling at each other via quantum brain waves.
In some SRW games, the Flash/Alert seishin even has the Newtype sound. Just another reference to the legendary Real Robot pilot.
@lemmehaviet I am not sure but I did hear the MG Hi Nu did not have some stuff..............
oh yea i heard of that one, but isn't that strictly UC era?
Heck yeah B-Gundam! Best part in my mind though is when they see it peeking over a hill with a GM and think it its a HUGE Gundam based on its head alone, something along the lines of Bigger than the Perfect Zeong
Yeah I agree. The whole suit is fit to his style.
Why Hyper Mega Launcher is not... a Single attack, but MAP ATTACK only ?
what you mean they can redock and how are the funnels protected by a barrier
O_o thanks now wtf is a psyco frame and wat about the detachment of the shield and bazooka
Not only that, Hi-Nu can form a fin-funnel barrier to protect itself or trap enemy units. That's a massive advantage. In the SEED universe, the only 2 units that could do that were the upgraded "X-Astray" Dreadnought and the Akatsuki.
Best Fin Funnel animation ever
whats the bgm of hi nu???
i think it just makes it look cool
Wing Zero's map weapon does have wider range, and plus zero system can do some immense damage. But Hi-Nu still outclasses it by far considering it has almost every major real robot strength imaginable plus high hp, far above average armor for a real robot type, and near godlike speed combined with Amuro's high dodge. Its nearly unbeatable...I sent it into the last scenerio by itself once and it almost did the job single handedly.
well the thing is i don't know what to do whenever i finish the mission and then i upgrade there are so many units and so little money
@lemmehaviet reminds me of the O, nightingale in SRW alpha 2 is a beast if u ever get a chance to play it
Ok, just to be sure I understand. ALL of Nu Gundam was a psychoframe, and the T shaped bit was just a sample that Chan had that reacted on its own and flew around the battlefield right?
I saw the movie after playing the game, so it was neat to see how much detail they put into these attacks, like the bazooka and shield thing and the sounds the funnels make.
I think there is a couple of combination between Z and ZZ and some other in SRW D, but there is none in this game
Yes, that is true. He DIDN'T do it himself, and he can't. However, it can also be viewed as Amuro's power in a way. If he didn't take the lead, none of the other guys would have tried to follow his crazy plan either. After he started trying to push, even the enemy began to as well. Though he was powerless himself, it can also be argued that his leadership spirit and charisma was responsible
The best part about that ball? It had a Massive Gundam Face welded to it which actually DECREASED its performance slightly and he killed the last Dom by ejecting it off onto him
It's been 6 years and I'm coming back to watch this video. They should remake Char's counter attack only with Hi-Nu and Nightingale.
Another moment of insane piloting: Umon Samon of Crossbone Gundam (an old geezer and a Newtype) beat 6 Doms in a Ball during the One Year War. Newtype skills or no, that's an insane feat.
Is Nu gundam or Hi-Nu gundam better? whats the diffrence between them?
Only several bosses on the whole game can cash auto-hit, not alot of them. And honestly, if you get hit by those bosses, even if you boost the HP, it still can finish you in one hit unless you really upgrade a lot, like 3000-4000 HP. I may forgot about this but doesnt Amuro have a flash seishin?
whast the name of this OST track
dude did they show hi nu gundam in char's counterattack?
@evoracer86 they are dead in the novels (which are considered non-cannon) and MIA in the movie.
@lemmehaviet No. Hi-Nu Gundam had a specialized high powered beam cannon that was so powerful that the only way it could be powered was by hooking it up to the Ra Cailum. Amuro tries to use it in the novel to take pot shots at the Axis asteroid to destroy it, but it ultimately proves useless.
You're mistaken, funnels don't have their own power sources, they have to constantly dock with the suit for refilling or they run out of fuel. Bits have their own power generators.
DRAGOONS and funnels are essentially the same, because both have limited fuel supplies and need to dock with the suit regularly. They also both require quantum brain waves to operate, which is why only Kira, Rau, Rey, and Mwu use them.
Wel, the reason they downscaled them was to make them harder to hit, more manueverable, and cheaper to produce. They still had he insanely durable Gundarium armor, the beam weapon arsenal, and the other fun tricks that made Nu and Hi-Nu powerful, but now in a smaller, deadlier package.
And on the topic of the Xi Gundam, hell yes funnel missiles.
Amuro's not dead, he just wound up being reborn as Kira Yamato. But damn, that Hi-Nu's a BEAST.
Oh.I didn't watch Char's Counterattack so I don't know the full story.If Amuro died,how did he get Hi-Nu Gundam?
ya, but in extra-hard mode, they are really harder. they are smarter with casting and those who can cast direct hit do...and srsly, only 1 attack has to get through to him. equipping amuro with super alloy z helped me a lot and eliminated soft resets
well i wish the same thing but i heard they wnt continue ACE they making the new one for ps3 perhaps
@Zen09 I thought they were MIA and not KIA.
There's a reason why he's considered a legendary UC gundam character... a mix of experience and newtype powers by this point make him one of the best. That and frankly I think the last time someone made Heero better than Amuro, I think Tomino acually killed some people.
No i dont know how to explain it its not the things that attach the funnels under his wings its this long thing under the thruster between the funnels, you know where Nu gundam had the 4 thrusters in his back Hi-Nu only had 2 and these two long things attached to its back what is it? And where is his mega hyper baazoka
I think that the Nu and Hi-Nu Gundam are the strongest Gundams in the Universal Century. :D
Oh yeah, was that the Gundam-face Ball from one of the manga? That thing was hilariously crazy.
o ok. but r they trying to incorperate the hi-nu into more games? i wish they had it in gundam vs gundam on psp lol
Hi-Nu Gundam vs. Strike Freedom Gundam. The most powerful mobile suit of UC vs. the most powerful mobile suit of CE. Who would win?
Okay, I'll admit, I've been into SRW since F on the Playstation but I've never taken the time to seriously get into the older Gundams. With that out of the way, I'd like to ask for the title of the Hi-Nu Gundam's theme. It's bizarrely hypnotic.
@WildSeven0079 That whole fin funnel attack is just full of HOLY SHIT to me.
The Hi-Nu Gundam appeared in the novelisation of Char's Counterattack. In the animation, said Gundam was a rushed production as Amuro needed it in a hurry to fight Char. The novel gives a "what if" senario if Amuro had more time to develop his MS. Needless to say, the Hi-Nu is a far more powerful machine then the original RX-93
Ok when did the Nu gundam have a "Shoop da woop" cannon?
Just goes to show that you should never underestimate any unit in the Gundam universe. Even a mere ball can be devastating in the hands of the right pilot. XD
However Kira doesn't need the super dragoon as it shows, when he first uses the dragoons, that he has developed spatial awareness. So Kira could just ordinary dragoon systems like providence or dreadnought.
Mutual destruction in the novel? I was hoping for hi-nu's triumph...
There're so many people in SEED with spatial powers I gave up comparing them. I'm leaning towards Mu and Morgan though.
@lemmehaviet The MG model is very different from the original design of the Hi-Nu.
Beyond the Time FTW. This song needs to be used more often.
yup yup, and its been troubling lots of gundam fans to either label the G gundam series as a real robot or super robot series because of the vast power those gundams possessed.
were are the dynamic kills
Amuro is "Mr. Flash" in Super Robot Wars. As in, the seishin was modelled after him. :)
I don't think there's a single game in which he doesn't have it.
that's some massive damage there, i haven't played alpha 3 before but if u could do those sorts of damage in alpha 1, you'd be god
y was hi-nu nvr in the anime?
I like the Fin Funnel of the Hi-Nu Gundam. Not only does it cost a mere 15 EN, it has LALAH!
The scar damage mayb ese permenent because Turn A and X are never shown at a 100%. It's possilbe they have DG cells and can repair much better, however, they are never shown to be at full capability.
So that scar may not be there if Turn X "awakens"
You just knew that, once they had psycommu receptors down to an affordable price, they'd slap them on damn near everything INCLUDING missiles. Imagine what other applications they have! Car funnels, elevator funnels, coffee machine funnels... It would be a world you could control with your mind!
Hands down, Amuro is the best Gundam pilot ever. I prefer 'super' robots myself but will always save two slots for 'real' robots - Nu Gundam and Sazabi. Always thought it's a shame how Amuro and Char never managed to get along so it's my own way to make them war buddies.
It had better be. Amuro created its basic design himself, although the final touches and the Psycoframe were added by Anaheim.
Yep, and don't forget - no other Newtypes or anything even resembling Newtypes in the other Gundam series and universes can do the kind of metaphysical stuff that the powerful UC Newtypes could - remember the bright green flash that pushed Axis away from Earth? I know that wasn't just Amuro that did that but I've yet to see another Newtype beat that.
@MilliardoPeacecraftX well he seems like a nerfed sazabi then.