💯 accurate statement. Similar to many of the AAA game developers in how they knowingly ignore their communities and just shit out haphazardly games/content for the sake of profit.
of course they CAN make an affordable viper mini, they just won't make as much money from it. All we really expect is a viper mini at a similar price point as the v2 pro, yet their mental gymnastics to justify making pretty much EVERYTHING apart from what we want is astonishing
@@jsvn1357ngl logitech does the same thing. They have a G203 but if you want wireless you gotta get the G305 which is wireless but no rgb and heavier weight. Same with G502. The hero is usually like $40, but if you want wireless you can get the lightspeed which is $150.
you act as if it wasnt intentional lol. they made you wait (X amount of years) AND specifically gave you the opposite of what you wanted, theyre trying to tell you something.
@@Nevooo."Buy the signature or cobra pro bozoooo" Also if it flops "Ofc We knew what you want : Releases Viper v2 as if there's not even a shady attempt of charging more for slight updated version of the product"
if thats the case just get a basilisk or get and wired version got the g502x because the g502x wired is just 80 grams for the utitlity it provides with 13 or some switches
They put rgb in and made it heavy on purpose. The viper mini signature edition is so expensive it’s just an advertisement to buy the Logitech gpro x superlight.
Viper mini do NOT go with logitech I own the superlight 2 and original g pro. Viper is so much better in everyway possible except for battery life. Trust me when I say I CANNOT use the superlight it fucks me up in everygame compared to razer
@@adriannasyraf3534 We've been asking for a viper mini ultimate, not this, no one wanted this. they discontinued the viper mini and replaced it with this and its is heavier because of its features.
Bought a used Glorious Series One Pro for$65 USD. And it's basically a VM clone. Absolutely banger mouse. End game for me. Razer could have had my business if they actually released a legitimate VM wireless, but this ain't it chief.
@DaBoxGhost84 yeah...when you remove something its THE SAME weight as a mouse that came out years ago, can be used left handed and was £60 with the dock on amazon not too long ago...why would anyone buy the cobra?
Funny how the Razer Viper mini that cost about $60 wired, Razer decided to rubber grip it, add RGB and 8000hz polling rate, redesign it and asked us to pay $130 for it. As much as I'm not an enthusiast, this is a joke.
I dont get it. I am no rzer fanboy but when razer remove rgb and sidegrips on the v2 pro to reduce weight (compare to the ultimate), there was backlash and now there is backlash when they add rgb, grips which leads to increased weight, there is backlash. Classic example of when customers dont know what they want
This mouse is the biggest step backward in history, the went out of their way to sell the leftover pieces of the ultimate for double the price. I am honestly surprised, that they didn't use a ball in mouse.
Better get the Cooler Master MM712 wireless then. People and even most tech tubers slept on this mouse that has been properly improved from the MM710 with things people actually want: lighter w/ no holes, upgraded sensor & is also wireless too.
the rgb and the rubber sides are just all around really odd choices here. 77 grams isn’t the end of the world but considering the viper mini was 61 grams, just very weird
@@midnightas. i use g wolves hati s which is 49 grams. 77 is obviously bit high for me. what would a guy who uses $5 office mouse like you would know 🤡
they could have easily made a 50g plastic fullshell vm wireless at around a $120 price point, instead they double the price of the viper mini, make a pointless heavier mouse and a $400 joke. hopefully their product team knows something i dont
Mostly because lighter mice are easier to start and stop, less inertia and momentum. However, if you play on higher sensitivity a heavier mouse to be more stable could work but lighter mice has a lot of benefit and is what people are used to and is looking for these days. 70g is the limit for me before I feel sluggish but preference depends on the user.
@@balibo07 It's not under 60 grams but it's close enough, I'm currently using Viper Mini, it does feel amazing to aim but I wouldn't hate heavy mice because of their weight, tho I now understand the preference
@@clarentknight i used viper mini awesome mouse great shape im now using lamzu atlantis og its great mouse balanced 55grams i wish i got the mini tho its to wide as a mouse for me cuz i aggressive claw grip my mouse it kinda hurts to hold after a while to answer your question the guy above me explained it perfectly if you play games like valorant csgo you might chose a heavyer mouse but if you play games like apex quake legends overwatch tf2 you its better for you to get a lightter mouse lot more flickes more movement more looking around more mouse movment overall when you have a heavy mouse you get fatigue you get less accurate etc. but when you have a lightter mouse only cons it Has is that its harder to control but you can fix that by buying a control pad easy fix so literally there is no reason to buy a heavy mouse if you are not a Powerlifter and need g502 weights
Saya beli mouse gaming belum mau masuk yg ke wireless,ntar saya beli kalo udh punya uang sendiri,jadi yg saya masi pake sekarang Razer viper mini yg masi berkabel,terus kalo buat mouse gaming wireless udh enak ada budget di kisaran berapa ya?
razer removed the rubber grips on viper pro v2 bc nobody liked them on the v1 but then puts them on the refurbished viper mini!?!? and literally nobody asked for rgb, the minimal rgb on the old one was way cleaner, the weight gain + the massive price gain is just a big fuck you from razer
got mine today just to try it out. I liked it better than i thought i would but Im returning it lmao, the weight is just unbalanced. Probably gonna get the wired one when it goes on sale to replace my viper mini but ye the wireless is garbage tbh
Why did they put rgb on this mouse??? They mightve been able to bring the weight down to around 70 grams without rgb, but ig we dont deserve nice things 😭
Sumo level weight?🤔 You guys have been spoiled with peon weight mice 25 grams. Majority of gamers cannot aim worth a flip with super light weight mice due to shaky aim and slow reaction times 190-240 ms. 🤔
razer just doesn't want to give the viper mini wireless cuz everyone will buy it and dump all of their other mice. that would end their mouse business. 😆
RAZER STOOOPPPP!! WHY COULDN’T YOU GIVE US THE VIPER MINI V2 PRO!!! That’s all we wanted… you released the signature edition, so why not release the edition everyone could buy?? Like who is apart of the marketing on that.. let’s send out a hyped viper mini signature edition, and then never release it as a Mini V2 Pro for the masses.. Razer doesn’t need the money, but ya’ll definitely missed the bag on that one. Perfectly have everyone wanting and wanting that signature edition, and then…. NOTHING, and rebranding to some Cobra thing that no one wanted. SMH. Please just KISS it, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!
The amount of effort they're putting in to just avoid making an affordable, wireless viper mini, is one of the funniest things I've ever seen 💀
💯 accurate statement. Similar to many of the AAA game developers in how they knowingly ignore their communities and just shit out haphazardly games/content for the sake of profit.
yeah if they do that then no one would buy theirr other overpriced products
of course they CAN make an affordable viper mini, they just won't make as much money from it. All we really expect is a viper mini at a similar price point as the v2 pro, yet their mental gymnastics to justify making pretty much EVERYTHING apart from what we want is astonishing
@@jsvn1357ngl logitech does the same thing. They have a G203 but if you want wireless you gotta get the G305 which is wireless but no rgb and heavier weight. Same with G502. The hero is usually like $40, but if you want wireless you can get the lightspeed which is $150.
@@jsvn1357nonsense. They make less money this way in the long term.
All they had to do is make it wireless and give it a newer sensor. How could they mess up this bad?
you act as if it wasnt intentional lol. they made you wait (X amount of years) AND specifically gave you the opposite of what you wanted, theyre trying to tell you something.
@@Nevooo."Buy the signature or cobra pro bozoooo"
Also if it flops
"Ofc We knew what you want : Releases Viper v2 as if there's not even a shady attempt of charging more for slight updated version of the product"
Definitely made for a different market that isn't too well versed into FPS or cares about weight, more so features and aesthetics like RGB.
if thats the case just get a basilisk or get and wired version got the g502x because the g502x wired is just 80 grams for the utitlity it provides with 13 or some switches
@@xxlakxx2670Nope, Basilisk is too bulky, and doesn't have an fps shape, so it's not the same as the cobra
I feel like its aimed at prolly developers and enthusiasts or people who play mobas other than that i cant think of any other market
@@MultiHachicohey do you think those things should matter for games like lol ?
@@xxlakxx2670Its 89 grams not 80..
They put rgb in and made it heavy on purpose. The viper mini signature edition is so expensive it’s just an advertisement to buy the Logitech gpro x superlight.
What’s better viper mini se or superlight x gpro 2
Viper mini do NOT go with logitech I own the superlight 2 and original g pro. Viper is so much better in everyway possible except for battery life. Trust me when I say I CANNOT use the superlight it fucks me up in everygame compared to razer
@@BatManDravis buy the new Viper V3
@@souvikbiswas9542 yea I already bought it a while ago
Razer still managed to screw up
how?
@@adriannasyraf3534 We've been asking for a viper mini ultimate, not this, no one wanted this. they discontinued the viper mini and replaced it with this and its is heavier because of its features.
which is why i swapped to logitech lmao
@@adriannasyraf3534it's a brick
Logitech isn’t much better with their horrendous mushy clicks
Bought a used Glorious Series One Pro for$65 USD. And it's basically a VM clone. Absolutely banger mouse. End game for me. Razer could have had my business if they actually released a legitimate VM wireless, but this ain't it chief.
I waited so long for a viper mini. I eventually just got a mz1 and I'm so glad I stuck to it. My aim has never been better
was it the same shape? i used viper mini for a long time and when switched to lamzu atlantis mini, the butt is kinda big for my yee yee ass hand
I want to cry.
You can cry on my shoulder friend
Permission to cry sir??
Dw, delux got us😂
y
Imagine a pro version that has the bare essentials, no rubber grips, and at a "lower price"
Imagine
Then u basically got a viper v2 pro but smaller
@@QuackHeronimus they refuse to make a lighter v2 pro but smaller at a cheaper price bruh 😭
Razer answered the question no one asked for.
And also they got it wrong.
? so many people wanted a razer viper mini wireless to come out
I liked it
they wanted a light weight mouse that is affordable. Not this rgb bloated shit
Its a razer viper mini wireless that is somehow is heavier than the viper ultimate...
More expensive too...
RVU is 78 grams, no?
@@MyRageIsOP 74g
This is also 74g when you take the puck out.
@DaBoxGhost84 yeah...when you remove something its THE SAME weight as a mouse that came out years ago, can be used left handed and was £60 with the dock on amazon not too long ago...why would anyone buy the cobra?
Funny how the Razer Viper mini that cost about $60 wired, Razer decided to rubber grip it, add RGB and 8000hz polling rate, redesign it and asked us to pay $130 for it. As much as I'm not an enthusiast, this is a joke.
In Indonesia market razer viper only $26
indian market we used to get 22$ (mini). Cobra is there for 30$ (wired one)
Yeah think the mini used to be 30
@@bayuadityaputra2311dulunya di malaysia cuma 15 usd , sekarang viper mini sudah discontinued
I dont get it. I am no rzer fanboy but when razer remove rgb and sidegrips on the v2 pro to reduce weight (compare to the ultimate), there was backlash and now there is backlash when they add rgb, grips which leads to increased weight, there is backlash. Classic example of when customers dont know what they want
Looks like i'm still waiting for the Razer Viper Mini Wireless
The niche small mouse’s which cost 250£ plus offer something different targeting a niche, all razor have done is shrunk the DA and commanded a pay day
The normal Cobra seems like a better buy imo. Yeah, it's pretty much the same, but hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
This mouse is the biggest step backward in history, the went out of their way to sell the leftover pieces of the ultimate for double the price. I am honestly surprised, that they didn't use a ball in mouse.
So the one we wanted was a limited run that was hella expensive? . .. Nice
and was full of holes
waiting for the moment when razer adds debounce time
Better get the Cooler Master MM712 wireless then.
People and even most tech tubers slept on this mouse that has been properly improved from the MM710 with things people actually want: lighter w/ no holes, upgraded sensor & is also wireless too.
I held this in best buy andnthe shake and feel is the best ive felt on any mouse so im still going to end up getting it just for thr feel
some wishful thinking here, but i do hope they make a V2 pro that's like 50g with 4k, that would sound nice
looks nice and i love the side grips, but damn.. heavier?? I'd go bonkers for a 50 gram wireless viper mini
the rgb and the rubber sides are just all around really odd choices here. 77 grams isn’t the end of the world but considering the viper mini was 61 grams, just very weird
At this point I feel like it just happened so that viper mini was one of the best value mice for absolutely no reason at all.
I have the StormTrooper White Edition
I’d rather stick with my hts classic / hts ace. Very disappointing of razer tbh. Seems like they’re racing to switch places with Glorious
dude this looks littt
Why is everyone so obsessed with mice being damn near weightless? I actually enjoy feeling a bit of weight in my mouse 🤷♂️
Can you do a review of the VGN dragonfly f1/pro/max/MOBA?
Good
"we have viper mini wireless at home"
From his hand I think he owns a cat.
Basilisk v3 pro got me. Not ever again will they make a better one or get me to buy any
I had no idea how to feel when I saw this mouse.
1 day battery life with this rgb shiet?
Would still buy the regular mini over this
why
-its heavy!!!
@@thewhynotguy 61g is light...
Forget
77gram? sounds more like upselling viper mini signature edition
I'm looking for a new lightweight mouse, should I buy this Cobra or Viper?
that is viper mini on steroids
We will see a Cobra Pro "Lite/Mini" without RGB and without these shitty rubber grips, about 60g in a few months
razer employees confirmed there are no further plans with this shape
@@ecapsdirarazer whyyyyyyyyyyy
@@ecapsdiraProof send sauce. Supply and demand, why would they not find it as a profitable venture?
I brought this mouse used for 3 weeks still the weight feel weird and got usb disconnection issues
lol. 77. they took this long to screw up? I'd rather buy wired
77 isnt much but if you have chicken legs for arms i guess it is too much
@@midnightas. Its very noticeable and messes up our muscle memory
@@midnightas. i use g wolves hati s which is 49 grams. 77 is obviously bit high for me. what would a guy who uses $5 office mouse like you would know 🤡
@@midnightas.77g in 2023....
@@100_vadlavikramchary9 Stick to curry making mate. No bob and vagene for you as well
I gave up in razer after i tested razer blackshark v2X
they could have easily made a 50g plastic fullshell vm wireless at around a $120 price point, instead they double the price of the viper mini, make a pointless heavier mouse and a $400 joke. hopefully their product team knows something i dont
Oh yay, RGB is required on a mouse as much as air-con is required on a F1 car
just remove rgb, make it 60g. is it that difficult to understand?
U can see loads of people are hyped about this under their announcement video it’s just not for us the niche crowd of mouse obsessed weirdos
Feel like sub 70g is the new standard
They should have cut the prize down or the mouse will just be the model o mouse from Razer
aren't they now available in cable bound?
deserves its own name! cobra is a much better name than viper with a mini slapped on the end.
Did raser discontinue the Viper mini?
I don't get why people hate 60g+ grams mice
Have you ever used a mice under 60g mouse if you did and don't get why I can't make you understand
Mostly because lighter mice are easier to start and stop, less inertia and momentum. However, if you play on higher sensitivity a heavier mouse to be more stable could work but lighter mice has a lot of benefit and is what people are used to and is looking for these days. 70g is the limit for me before I feel sluggish but preference depends on the user.
@@balibo07 It's not under 60 grams but it's close enough, I'm currently using Viper Mini, it does feel amazing to aim but I wouldn't hate heavy mice because of their weight, tho I now understand the preference
@@kaeroseon Hmm hmm Preference is the key then
@@clarentknight i used viper mini awesome mouse great shape im now using lamzu atlantis og its great mouse balanced 55grams i wish i got the mini tho its to wide as a mouse for me cuz i aggressive claw grip my mouse it kinda hurts to hold after a while to answer your question the guy above me explained it perfectly if you play games like valorant csgo you might chose a heavyer mouse but if you play games like apex quake legends overwatch tf2 you its better for you to get a lightter mouse lot more flickes more movement more looking around more mouse movment overall when you have a heavy mouse you get fatigue you get less accurate etc. but when you have a lightter mouse only cons it Has is that its harder to control but you can fix that by buying a control pad easy fix so literally there is no reason to buy a heavy mouse if you are not a Powerlifter and need g502 weights
Yeah this isn't what we wanted. We a real wireless mini, same size, same if not close weight..
Saya beli mouse gaming belum mau masuk yg ke wireless,ntar saya beli kalo udh punya uang sendiri,jadi yg saya masi pake sekarang Razer viper mini yg masi berkabel,terus kalo buat mouse gaming wireless udh enak ada budget di kisaran berapa ya?
RAZER PLS STOP TEASING US PLS!!!!
razer removed the rubber grips on viper pro v2 bc nobody liked them on the v1 but then puts them on the refurbished viper mini!?!? and literally nobody asked for rgb, the minimal rgb on the old one was way cleaner, the weight gain + the massive price gain is just a big fuck you from razer
How do you call this Viper Mini?
got mine today just to try it out. I liked it better than i thought i would but Im returning it lmao, the weight is just unbalanced. Probably gonna get the wired one when it goes on sale to replace my viper mini but ye the wireless is garbage tbh
It is cobraa
i have one
Too heavy imo but looks cool
what's happen with your right finger broo?
Name....??
Can anyone recommend me a mouse just like that (this small and wireless), just so that the build quality is wayyy stronger?
Lamzu Atlantis MIni is a solid option, though not too similar in shape
is it bluetooth or wireless usb
Finna mod it
just buy the series one pro
just buy a moues that isnt made anymore!
@DiamondLobbyReviews it's still selling. At least in UK/EU
literally whyy if its not broke don't fix it razer just give us the original viper mini and make it wireless
cobra pro 💀💀💀
77g????
Why did they put rgb on this mouse??? They mightve been able to bring the weight down to around 70 grams without rgb, but ig we dont deserve nice things 😭
76g ? damn that's sumo wrestler level, sure some people won't have any problem but most competitive gamer prefer lighter mouse
Sumo level weight?🤔 You guys have been spoiled with peon weight mice 25 grams. Majority of gamers cannot aim worth a flip with super light weight mice due to shaky aim and slow reaction times 190-240 ms. 🤔
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeeseno
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeesefr
Razer can't do no wrong, clearly a Logitech bias.
The price of the mouse in inr is the amount of likes of this videoa
Isn’t the wired version 58g?
Yes
that thing is small af
Razer makes very high quality mice but just not for fps gamers
Plenty of pro FPS players use Razer mice :) see: ruclips.net/video/lNuyzomk2eQ/видео.html
That’s dumb… If it’s literally a Razer Viper, then why change the name? They could’ve saved that name for a different mouse with a different shape.
77g? Amazing 😂😂😂
I would get one if it was white
W
Crazy but i stole ot from walmart so free for me 😊
I mean bro why why
is it mid?
Yes
Back to basic mistakes. Rubber... RGB... weight. Why :(
razer just doesn't want to give the viper mini wireless cuz everyone will buy it and dump all of their other mice. that would end their mouse business. 😆
Razor build quality is so bad.. half the price for Logitech and a far better mouse
RAZER STOOOPPPP!! WHY COULDN’T YOU GIVE US THE VIPER MINI V2 PRO!!! That’s all we wanted… you released the signature edition, so why not release the edition everyone could buy?? Like who is apart of the marketing on that.. let’s send out a hyped viper mini signature edition, and then never release it as a Mini V2 Pro for the masses.. Razer doesn’t need the money, but ya’ll definitely missed the bag on that one. Perfectly have everyone wanting and wanting that signature edition, and then…. NOTHING, and rebranding to some Cobra thing that no one wanted. SMH. Please just KISS it, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!
just a tip, JUST BUY A FUCKING RAZER VIPER ULTIMATE.
20 grams off...
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Looks like a Chinese clone
not even a true left handed mouse jesus
Bs mouse
rgb mouse in 2023....
It’s bad
Absolutely sad "pro", expensive heavy mouse, I don't even think this properly fits in the mouse market, but what does my dumbass know