I used a quarter inch section of bicycle inner tube, folded over on itself (to make it 4 layers thick), then cut a screw sized hole in the middle that tube. I stuck it to the stock section for the screw using some spray-on adhesive (so that it wouldn't pop out of place before I could get the receiver down on it). Works great. Thanks for the vid!
I am gonna test this out on my remington 700 ADL 30-06. Update it works on my rifle, used a oxiclean detergent bottle. Went from 2.5 inch grouping at 400 yards to almost 1 was about 1.3 Thanks so much
Great idea! I'm going to do this soon. I've already sanded my stock but would like more room due to the amount of flex my synthetic stock has. Seems super easy!
Clever and cost-effective way to free float a barrel. And btw, you meant to say "65 inch-pounds", not 65 foot founds ;) ,which is also not a pressure, but a torque ;)
Great video, and good handy solution. My only concern is that the stock has so much play, and that if you rest the rifle it will again touch the barrel. For this you can stiffen it with some epoxy and fiberglass filling in those cross ribbed areas inside the fore end. thanks for posting.
Works perfect. I added 1 shim in the front and 1 for the rear . And then a long piece inthe very front of the stock just to keep the rifle in the middle of the channel. I took out the very front shim after adding the screws and i used the top of a plastic ice cream pail for the shims. Now my Centurion Mauser is free floated and ready for the scope. Awsome . If i bedded it then it would just add epoxy and not raise it to the height from the shims.
Yes it will help on synthetic stocks. But only if they don't pass the paper slip test. I need to do either this or sand and file on a rem'700 22-250 with bull brl. It touches at end like that Winchester did before. Good tips thanks
Bought a centurion 123 , 30.06 and the ramline stock is kinda not free floating even though it says its one. Ill try add a little shim like this in the front and back. Its a commercial mauser 98. I love it. It miht not work but ill try it.
its honestly better accuracy wise to just remove material from the barrel channel, its ez, use a deep well socket and some sandpaper. doing what you see here can actually hurt your accuracy as it will ruin what little bedding you have for the action. especially on a rifle with a round receiver like the the 700 or savage
I agree with your method using a dremel with a grinding wheel, instead of sandpaper and socket, just a little faster but you must be careful not to take to much off.
@@westesh roughest i can find, then clean up with some 120 for aesthetics. usually have to take quite a bit of material out to get it all to clear, be sure to check that it does not touch when flexed.
I have used roofing aluminum circles on a Mosin-Nagant rifle as the Finn's did this to their rifles to improve accuracy which it does. I cut to fit and then punched the holes to fit the action screws. This is a good idea for weapons that have an internal magazine. 🎩♠️🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻💮🌼🏵️🌸🏴☠️🏹
I just did this with my 243. I only shimmed in the front pillar and gave it the paper test. Do you think it will shoot fine? or should i place a shim in the back also?
Well, hahah,...that is slick and using the ol' noggin too! But 57 people didn't like this idea,...however 546 ( at this time ) do,..so I'll join the majority.
as a novice id also like to know the reasoning about floating a barrel, ive been restoring an old mossberg 46 an need the front barrel band which has been going for more than i wanna pay an this floating thing makes me doubt if i need it
Hay Rick I have a Ruger 10/22, and I have viewed some videos where a few RUclipsRS have floated their barrel. What is the theory behind floating a rifle barrel?
I would not put in those "spacers". Loss of the bedding or intended contact points between the stock and the receiver could cause the stock to become lose. I had the end of my synthetic forearm touching my barrel, possibly because I often use a bipod. My solution was this: Take the barrel and reciever out, put a small stack of post-its in at the end of the barrel channel and remount the barrel and receiver firmly. Then I carefully heated, or rather warmed up the forearm with a hair-dryer on low. This forces the forearm to bend down slightly and your barrel is once again free floating without the risk of messing up the gun. Just remember to remove those post its.
65 inch pounds is WAY to much for a synthetic stock UNLESS it is pillar bedded, About 30-35 inch pounds should be right. At 65 inch pounds the floor plate would start to sink into the plastic stock, dont ask me how i know this? LOL, i have weatherby S2 Vanguard in 6.5 Creed that i just dealt with this exact issue. Weatherby says 30-35 inch pounds.
Yes, The barrel should touch nothing. This is not like bedding a rifle but helps a lot on accuracy. I would also check several different brands of ammo after doing this method. Once that barrel is touching nothing but the receiver you maybe shocked at the groups you will shoot. Thanks!
@@ArkansasPrepper I bought a 308 Remington 700 SPS tactical last year don't know why I got a tactical barrel for hunting but Its what i got so I looked and I looked online and then I finally come across a guy he had used a Coke can cut into squares and put three layers on the front Barrel lug, that's what I tried and it stays free floating on the factory Hogue stock but I only did it on the front as well and I haven't took it out hunting yet... what's your opinion on only doing one shim on the front Barrel lug and let me know how it works for you. I'm really debating on getting the Ruger American because I have heard nothing but great things about the rifle but when I picked one up and felt it in the store the only issue I had was the soft plastic stock that would hit barrel propped/bipod....let me know if you find a better Way
Kirk, if the barrel is free from anything touching it, all is good. Sighting it maybe another problem? Paradox could be a problem if you lift the barrel up at the front?
65ftlbs? Hahaha dude 30-40lbs max and this is the worst way to float / bed a gun ..... just open barrel channel a tiny bit and glass bed the gun the right way
Bed the receiver and be even better
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Your are correct, John Myers, but most do not understand "Bed the receiver" this is why I made this video.
@@ArkansasPrepper after my last two builds I am a firm believer of a pillar and bed job. Heck i even did that to my rem 710.
Follow John, he has one subscriber on RUclips: ruclips.net/channel/UCJp1Y3CCX8TPyRxe7aYSxUg
@@ArkansasPrepper hey man I appreciate ya!
@@johnmyers6802 subscribed. Solid advice guys.
Good method! Thanks for sharing, sure saved me a lot of sanding and frustration.
I used a quarter inch section of bicycle inner tube, folded over on itself (to make it 4 layers thick), then cut a screw sized hole in the middle that tube. I stuck it to the stock section for the screw using some spray-on adhesive (so that it wouldn't pop out of place before I could get the receiver down on it). Works great. Thanks for the vid!
Top-Notch! Thank you Sir for taking us along for the ride!
Keep it simple is what I say and you did just that. Thanks for another great video.
Rick, you ALWAYS share such great information! Thanks for sharing yet again. :-)
Nice. Im doing this to my 702 plinkster. It looks like a real easy fix. Awsome man.
I am gonna test this out on my remington 700 ADL 30-06.
Update it works on my rifle, used a oxiclean detergent bottle. Went from 2.5 inch grouping at 400 yards to almost 1 was about 1.3
Thanks so much
Thank you! Saved money using your method as I was getting ready to buy a new stock for my Remington 700.
This is gold, thank you sir !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Radio voice Rick does it again. Nice work and who'd of thought it could be so easy!
Great idea! I'm going to do this soon. I've already sanded my stock but would like more room due to the amount of flex my synthetic stock has. Seems super easy!
very very smart great video. I don't care for free floating a barrel but you make it look so easy I think ill free float all my rifles now lol thanks
Clever and cost-effective way to free float a barrel. And btw, you meant to say "65 inch-pounds", not 65 foot founds ;) ,which is also not a pressure, but a torque ;)
Excellent video Rick! Your editing is awesome :)
Excellent video :)
Awesome thank you.
Great video, and good handy solution. My only concern is that the stock has so much play, and that if you rest the rifle it will again touch the barrel. For this you can stiffen it with some epoxy and fiberglass filling in those cross ribbed areas inside the fore end. thanks for posting.
Thanks for the video and idea....:)
Exellent video..
love it, cant wait to mode my guns this way
Works perfect. I added 1 shim in the front and 1 for the rear . And then a long piece inthe very front of the stock just to keep the rifle in the middle of the channel. I took out the very front shim after adding the screws and i used the top of a plastic ice cream pail for the shims. Now my Centurion Mauser is free floated and ready for the scope. Awsome . If i bedded it then it would just add epoxy and not raise it to the height from the shims.
Great! I am happy it worked out for you.
Yes it will help on synthetic stocks. But only if they don't pass the paper slip test. I need to do either this or sand and file on a rem'700 22-250 with bull brl. It touches at end like that Winchester did before. Good tips thanks
It makes sense! Thanks.
Something exactly like what I was thinking. Thanks.
It improves the accuracy. Thanks for watching.
exelent !! thanks
Bought a centurion 123 , 30.06 and the ramline stock is kinda not free floating even though it says its one. Ill try add a little shim like this in the front and back. Its a commercial mauser 98. I love it. It miht not work but ill try it.
its honestly better accuracy wise to just remove material from the barrel channel, its ez, use a deep well socket and some sandpaper.
doing what you see here can actually hurt your accuracy as it will ruin what little bedding you have for the action. especially on a rifle with a round receiver like the the 700 or savage
I agree with your method using a dremel with a grinding wheel, instead of sandpaper and socket, just a little faster
but you must be careful not to take to much off.
nathan campbell
What grit paper do you recommend for synthetic stock channels?
@@westesh roughest i can find, then clean up with some 120 for aesthetics. usually have to take quite a bit of material out to get it all to clear, be sure to check that it does not touch when flexed.
I have used roofing aluminum circles on a Mosin-Nagant rifle as the Finn's did this to their rifles to improve accuracy which it does. I cut to fit and then punched the holes to fit the action screws. This is a good idea for weapons that have an internal magazine. 🎩♠️🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻💮🌼🏵️🌸🏴☠️🏹
Which brand of washing detergent do you recommend? Does floral blossom scent provide better accuracy than tropical lily?
I just did this with my 243. I only shimmed in the front pillar and gave it the paper test. Do you think it will shoot fine? or should i place a shim in the back also?
Great Video I did mu Rem 770/270 and my MOA is about 0.5 at 100. It was 0.75 to 1.05 before.
Great!....Thanks for sharing. That amount of correction at 300 yards is a big difference.
What a nice video. Was looking for something to show the nephew.
Thanks!!
Use instamorph. Hot water to shape it, tighten a little, let it cool then torque the screws down.
Great vid, thanks. But how much was the Detergent bottle??? (lol jk nice idea)
As we speak my friend. Take care. :-)
Well, hahah,...that is slick and using the ol' noggin too! But 57 people didn't like this idea,...however 546 ( at this time ) do,..so I'll join the majority.
How does it affect the magazine? I have a 770 and want to do this but dont want feed issues or the magazine not locking in. Great video!
If your rifle has a detachable mag it maybe an issue?
Is barrel droop a problem?
as a novice id also like to know the reasoning about floating a barrel, ive been restoring an old mossberg 46 an need the front barrel band which has been going for more than i wanna pay an this floating thing makes me doubt if i need it
Hay Rick
I have a Ruger 10/22, and I have viewed some videos where a few RUclipsRS have floated their barrel. What is the theory behind floating a rifle barrel?
Some manufacturers purposely put pressure points in the stock for harmonics. This will not be a cure all for every rifle.
Just the good ones.
Ribs are there to strength the stock
That's good information Rick :-)) Thanks for sharing this and Take Care my friend :-))
I bought a Tikka T3x Varmint and it didnt "float", I emailed the manufactuerer and they said its not supposed to?! What do you think about that?
I am not familiar so researched the rifle and the manufacturer states it is a floated barrel. Strange?
I would not put in those "spacers". Loss of the bedding or intended contact points between the stock and the receiver could cause the stock to become lose. I had the end of my synthetic forearm touching my barrel, possibly because I often use a bipod. My solution was this: Take the barrel and reciever out, put a small stack of post-its in at the end of the barrel channel and remount the barrel and receiver firmly. Then I carefully heated, or rather warmed up the forearm with a hair-dryer on low. This forces the forearm to bend down slightly and your barrel is once again free floating without the risk of messing up the gun. Just remember to remove those post its.
My new R.A.P doesnt need it luckily
I used a stainless washers.
Great idea! Did it help with accuracy?
***** Yes but i also shaved down the fore stock at the same time.
@@jeffm7669 How many did you use And have you had any issues with accuracy changing
Is that really 65 ft-lbs? That seems kinda high, but I could be wrong.
65 inch pounds.
65 inch pounds is WAY to much for a synthetic stock UNLESS it is pillar bedded, About 30-35 inch pounds should be right. At 65 inch pounds the floor plate would start to sink into the plastic stock, dont ask me how i know this? LOL, i have weatherby S2 Vanguard in 6.5 Creed that i just dealt with this exact issue. Weatherby says 30-35 inch pounds.
You dont need a drill i used a credit card and a hole punch
So only the action need not to be free floated
Yes, The barrel should touch nothing. This is not like bedding a rifle but helps a lot on accuracy. I would also check several different brands of ammo after doing this method. Once that barrel is touching nothing but the receiver you maybe shocked at the groups you will shoot. Thanks!
Sheet Metal!!!
Kirk, just bought a new rifle. Great idea and I am going to try sheet metal if I can form it to the stock. Thanks!
@@ArkansasPrepper I bought a 308 Remington 700 SPS tactical last year don't know why I got a tactical barrel for hunting but Its what i got so I looked and I looked online and then I finally come across a guy he had used a Coke can cut into squares and put three layers on the front Barrel lug, that's what I tried and it stays free floating on the factory Hogue stock but I only did it on the front as well and I haven't took it out hunting yet... what's your opinion on only doing one shim on the front Barrel lug and let me know how it works for you. I'm really debating on getting the Ruger American because I have heard nothing but great things about the rifle but when I picked one up and felt it in the store the only issue I had was the soft plastic stock that would hit barrel propped/bipod....let me know if you find a better Way
Kirk, if the barrel is free from anything touching it, all is good. Sighting it maybe another problem? Paradox could be a problem if you lift the barrel up at the front?
@@ArkansasPrepper i mean just shim front action screw area and not rear screw
65ftlbs? Hahaha dude 30-40lbs max and this is the worst way to float / bed a gun ..... just open barrel channel a tiny bit and glass bed the gun the right way
30-40 lbs max!!!!! How about INCH LBS.