A Doomed Aircraft Is Left to Fly Until it Runs Out of Fuel
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2017
- Learjet 35 was a doomed plane, flying miles off course and with passengers and crew presumed dead. All that could be done now was to wait for the plane to run out of fuel - but where would it crash?
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Just imagine your going about your day, no knowledge on the situation, then a plane crashes in a nearby field and you see an F-16 leaving the scene
MCFish Nuggets i swear
Lol
How to create conspiracy theorists 101
Another day at the middle east
He must be the traitor. Call the detective to id the body.
KOS Jet
The fighter pilot knew from the frosted window that the cabin was depressurized. At that point everyone on that Learjet was already dead.
Moody GhannaM I was thinking the same thing, but what caused the explosive decompression in the first place?
@@zackplaylists The plane was not pressurized for unknown reasons. At high altitudes, a non-pressurized cabin is suicidal, as there isn't enough oxygen to support human life. There was another case with a rather similar scenario, Helios Airways Flight 522; in that case, the pilots forgot to pressurise the plane, by the time they realised they are passing out and dying due to a lack of oxygen, it was too late.
@@zackplaylists wait, explosive decompression?? Where did you hear that
Zachary Fein probs cuz he was climbing too high too fast
And being judged by God
A plane slams into the ground literally vaporised.
Narrator: there are no survivors.
Somebody could’ve jumped out idk
@@5ive390 They all died on the plane due to hypoxia. Plus no one had a parachute.
Smithsonian: *iTs BrIgTeR hErE*
There were no survivors way before that.
How and why did everyone die?
"With any luck it won't hit anything."
It's South Dakota, dude. There's not much to hit.
Although it could be North Dakota...
@@ZCasavant I can't say more than that.
There's like 2 whole residents, and they're related and married
I was born and raised in SD, and no truer words have been spoken.
But I just cut that hay Martha!
Just imagine watching a 3 minute video that has no context.
So many channels do this
And it’s always annoying when they do.
Even worse a video that's 3:10
The plane depressurized and killed everyone on board, the plane continued on what I assume was autopilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed. There's your context.
Same
Narrator: Jim has come up with a rough calculation of where the plane would run out of fuel
Jim: draws giant triangle over 5 states....
The good news is that the exact location is somewhere in the triangle
Hey, if it was up near New England, Jim' triangle might have covered 20 states!
Well he did say it was "rough"
@@mightymurph3949 lol
Ignorant Slaves good ol Titball
They straight up got a specialist to draw a triangle for them
Bloody Brilliant!
Best comment on here. I laughed pretty hard.
Well yeah but then... could -you- draw that triangle off the top of your head? No internet, remember. This was pre-smartphone and he didn't have time to hop on Roadrunner HSO.
Hahahahhahhahhhahahha
I could have drawn a circle for half the pay!
"Get me a map!"
Me: *brings him map of Disney World
Was watching this vid at work(hospital) with my airpods, read this comment and burst laughing
@@christianospina48 lol your reply made this comment 10 times better
*Backpack from Dora the explora appears*
@@christianospina48 Was reading this reply on my Redux Gamer entry A10 5000GB model SV12 from 2018 with my KOTION EACH G2000 Gaming headphones, and I released endorphins causing me to get a feeling of euphoria
*gives him a map of GTA:SA
"Sir, we have a rogue plane and we can't locate it."
"Get me Jim Tit ball."
😂😂😂😂
You the man LOL
Its jim tidball turn on captions
0bAm3 it was a joke ffs
@@0bAm3 r/wooosh
It would be painful to watch if you were the fighter pilot
But i bet he was also quite relieved to see where it was coming down. If it hadn't ran out of fuel then and was approaching a city he may have had to shoot it down. When he saw its descent into empty fields there must have been a little relief.
Even more painful if you were the family..... Apparently the wife of one of the guys was watching it all unfold on the news all while frantically trying to call him.
Great day👏👏
No everyone was dead but i wouldn start crying or emotional i would be like heh better luck next time it isnt my job anyways
But i would still pay respect tho
RUclips algorithm: “I gather you here today for no apparent reason but to watch a random video of a random plane crash that you have absolutely no knowledge about or will ever need to know about”
Unless you always wondered what happened to Payne Stewart the pro golfer from the 80’s
Yep, I’m in that pool to...
This is absoleutuly unnecessary
This was huge news at the time. And Payne Stewart was a legendary PGA golfer.
I died 😂😂😂😂
Ah, I see. So the frost hijacked the plane, killed the pilots, and flew the plane into a farm field as a terrorist attack.
Frost must of been a meat eater then
More like oxygen left the plane
Frost and crops have been fighting a war since the beginning of history. It was only a matter of time before they started utilizing the tools we provide to escalate the warfare.
Andrew Legoffe lol
The cabin was depressurized so everyone inside was dead and the window fogged up. I saw something else about this a while ago some problem with the pressure system caused people to lose oxygen supply or something and die
My best guess is South Dakota. Possibly Alabama...or Canada. Or maybe New Zealand. I can’t say more than that
Austin Moca hahahahahaha
Titball: "Get me the North Pole, we need sleigh's in the air now!"
Maybe it’ll just make the full circle and land back in Florida
Somewhere in the US is probably the most accurate answer
@@BDubb824 Oh so not the moon then? Thank godness the equipment left behind by Apollo expeditions is safe.
cabin depressurised and everyone suffocated. The Plane was on autopilot. When the Windows were frosted over the fighter pilot knew everyone was dead
Devan Woolston oooooooo see I was thinking the same thing but it seemed to mysterious
steve b you’re a fucking idiot. There was no implication of doing something.
Devan Woolston No fucking shit Sherlock.......... Why do people state the obvious on RUclips?..........
Because its not exactly the obvious? Not everyone is gonna know that frosted windows = depressurized cabin. The real question is why are you so butthurt over a comment?
Well what if the whole plane crashed in a town killing a lot of people. Shooting it while it's still flying can disintegrate it and the pieces can fall and not hurt anyone. Just a thought
My best guess is somewhere on earth, I can't say more than that.
I don’t know man could be mars
シュガー Jupiter
"This sounds like a job for...
*Jim Titball* "
"dawg... Someone get Jim Titball on the phone" said no one ever.
stupendous man
Who in the world is Jim Titball? Sounds more important than Carol Baskin.
“We need Jim Titball!”
“Stop laughing. I’m serious!”
was scroling and searching for someone who noticed that too lol
Analysis of this video's RUclips comments:
1% explaining the investigation/cause
1% thank goodness it landed in an empty field
98% Jim Tit Ball
I mean, it's all that matters. His name is so hilarious that the narrator was probably paid double to not laugh
Internet
I would say a lot more is about how they said that it would crash in that huge triangle
2:19 where's it going to hit? My best bet would be the ground.
LOL
Lol
My best guess would be...the crust...sorry I'm just saying what I would say...
I think it's gonna hit in the sky
Ground or sea
"The president was made aware of the situation by his economic advisors" Okay, I'm not the expert on this, but why did the economic advisors notified the president of this? Is this plane carrying all of US gold reserves or what?
It was carrying 25,000 jobs onboard, they were keeping a close eye on it to make sure it wasn't taking them overseas
I don't believe they did, he was probably just meeting with them and someone else came in during the meeting and informed him.
It said the President was in a meeting with his advisors when he was made aware.
If you're gonna quote, make sure it's right.
That is why we rigged him out n installed a complete dotard in his place. The grinning dotard Biden is doing just fine
When your flying a plane with your friends in GTA and your friend who is piloting the plane says “brb gotta have dinner”:
😂😂
*you are
@@yakebb1048 *you are
@@yakebb1048 you're is short for you are. So the original form is you are. Maybe buy some dictionary?
PouLS PL you’re is still a word
"The F-16 attempts to follow, but the plane disappears into the clouds." Huh? Sure glad we spent a few billion dollars developing a state-of-the-art aircraft that was defeated by sneaky airborne water molecules.
Gencturk92 they can blow it up if it was going to hit a town
@@user-cu6ij1ui4i so either way the plane is going to do down, but what if its flying over a city ? even if its shot down, the bits and pieces would be flying everywhere
@@Gencturk92 I think he meant "blow it up before the pieces would hit the city"
@@Christian23242 if you blow it up, its still going to throw pieces everywhere
Gencturk92 my man
I feel sorry for anyone named Titball.
I went to school with a guy who's surname was Wallbank. We changed the first letter of each syllable around.😁
@@scarabooshable Ballwank lol
😂😁
I know a guy named booby dale
Mike Hunt.
"Jim has come up with a rough calculation of where the plane will run out of fuel."
Jim: "North America. Possibly South America." ;)
Idk maybe maybe just maybe in ᵉᵘʳᵒᵖᵉ
I can safely say it will strike somewhere on earth
Earth. Possibly mars.
@@Winlonghorn_iso possibly in our solar system
F1LIP Milky Way, possibly Andromeda
“Oh oops I didn’t realise you weren’t supposed to open the window”
Underrated
When the plane was taking off, it lost cabin pressure. Everybody on board then died of hypoxia, or lack of oxygen during the ascent. You can see that the plane lost pressure when the windows are frosted.
hen chen that’s what I assumed but it must of lost it after takeoff not during
hen chen spoopy scary skeletons
Ur right...about the cabin pressure...thats what i thought when they said there was no movement yet the plane was flying fine...then they said frost and i knew the llane had the same atmosphere inside as out....its a sad story but shows why regulations on plane maintenance is so key
The Glassinator coulda happened durring...u wouldnt notice at low alt since its similar pressure...but once u get ten or so thousand feet up its kinda too late
Jonny B. Dumb
They went afk
I'm gonna take my trip to hell now
_Relatable_ i watched a cat fall off at 300 ft drop and die while Piano Man played in the back.
@@pimpchimpin6785 please link it 😂
Cryptic Fuzzie, I exaggerated on the height, but it was still a hard enough of a drop to feel that way.
@@pimpchimpin6785 Ive seen that my friend showed me
Oh no
The exact same think just happened sunday evening. A small plane carrying four people on a planned flight from Jerez, Spain to Cologne, Germany crashed in the Baltic Sea from 35000 feet. It flew straight past Cologne and continued in a straight line untill it dropped from the skies and crashed outside Ventspils, Lithuana. Danish and swedish fighter pilots tracking the plane reported that the cockpit was empty and they could not see the pilots. RIP
That one person who owned the field: bulls*it
I grew up in Spfld mo, and I knew the Stewart family well, and mowed their lawn when I was a kid. I felt really bad for his mother because the military was at her house while the plane was still airborne. She had lost her husband several years prior, and when this happened, it broke her. She passed away within a year or two afterwards. I am sure they were prepaired to shoot the plane down as opposed to letting it go down over a populated area. And sadly...I'm sure they discussed that scenario with her. He was a good guy, never a snob. And his mother was a sweet woman. RIP Stewart family.
Yes, in fact the plan was for a fighter to come along side of it and tip it, but that maneuver is quite tricky and they had definitely made the decision to down the aircraft by any means necessary if it got close to populated area.
Mad Welshman @
Mad Welshman really?
why would you lie about that lol
Lol you think, they would risk a 60 million dollar plane in a risky stunt like that?
If only there was a way to get somebody on board, like in the movies.
That would only work if you had a space suit.
@@shiningarmor2838 well not a full space suit since you don't need to protect yourself from radiation. Maybe more like a diving suit. But there's not really a point to trying to get on board since everyone was already dead.
@@jjtomecek1623 beacuse saving the bodies, preventing a potentially deadly crash or just being a good guy and make sure the whole plane got recycled.
Are not reasons enough.
The practicality of the whole thing, is a diffrent matter
gnomes mcgee
Everyone on board is dead. No point in risking someone else’s life for lifeless bodies
Joseph K no point in risking the plan crashing into a populated area. Saving it or destroying it will be the best option
This was Payne Stewart’s plane, the PGA golfer and his caddy/agent, the plane lost cabin pressure and crashed in some field in South Dakota
Yes it was, not huge into golf but I always like Payne Stewart. Everyone on board had passed away long before it hit the ground.
Thanks man. Now if only they'd put what you just said into a 3 minute video clip that details exactly what happened.
@@BKnight_ at altitude it lost cabin pressure. For whatever reason the pilots couldn't get their oxygen masks on and get down in altitude in time. Everyone on board died from lack of oxygen. The plane flew on autopilot until it ran out of fuel.
@@jamesshoemaker684 Cheers, friend. I was getting annoyed that no one was telling me what happened until you swooped in and helped me out!
† 25. October 1999
This is the funniest comments section of an air crash investigation clip ever 🤣🤣. Were all going to hell after this.
But in all seriousness RIP to all on board and Payne 🙏
Mr. Wray160 i was thinking the same thing!! 😂😂
Fr, Rip🙏❤
“Their were no survivors”... I reckon
There*
Sid552 theiy’re**
hethyr’e
@@sid5527 You are absolutely correct, it amazes me the amount of people who clearly do not understand the differences between there, their and they're. And most importantly, when to apply them.
@@EllTheBob The correct word is 'there'.
0:56 Jim Titball. I think he was bullied in school.
Tidball
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td NO. TITBALL.
@@tn1149 If only. It's Tidball it's in the report.
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td *ITS TITBALL*
@@Violetenist We wish but it's not
The thumbnail of the fighter pilot was like
“i gotta get me one of those”
😂
The people died before they crashed, lack of oxygen was the reason
Giorno Giovanna yeah what I am wondering is wouldn’t the pilots be warned in the event in a drop in air pressure incentivizing them to drop the oxygen masks, like was there an equipment malfunction
Carson Morris rapid depressurization at 45k feet wouldn’t give much time for anything. I doubt this plane was equipped with drop down oxygen because it was a private jet. All US pilots in in-pressurized/non oxygen equipped planes are restricted from flying above 10k feet for more than 30 minutes because of lack of oxygen at that altitude. 45k feet is usually -50degrees or colder. Rapid depressurization at 45k feet would be like not timing your breath right when you jump off a diving board, and needing to breath at the bottom of your jump. And still having to come up. It would leave maybe a minute of panic and suffocation. Not much time to get down to a safe altitude either. Even if they programmed he autopilot before they passed out to descend they would be dead before the plane got that low.
Giorno Giovanna is confused about all this oxygen stuff,was it because they were to high in the air Nd also how were the people already dead🙃
Pain see my comment above
thank god. a painless death.
0:56 TITBALL
@ItzSimi 2 do you mean *MEAN* ?
Tidball
On 25 October 1999, professional golfer Payne Stewart was killed in the crash of a Learjet 35. The plane apparently suffered a loss of cabin pressure at some point early in the flight. All on board are thought to have died of hypoxia, lack of oxygen. The plane, apparently still on autopilot, continued flying until one engine flamed out, most likely due to fuel starvation. It crashed near Aberdeen, South Dakota after an uncontrolled descent. The exact cause of the pressurization failure and the reason behind the crew's failure or inability to respond to it has not been definitively determined.[16]
Pressurization outflow valves are known to fail/stick on the older Learjets. It's entirely possible the same thing happened here. I know for the 24 there is an AD calling for its repair.
Josh Leviton This is the same accident.
Thanks!
Ah, I was wondering where that AD came from specifically. I figured it probably was from this crash but never bothered to confirm that suspicion.
Was pissed the video ended like that without explanation, thanks
Narrator: "The plane has crashed in a hayfield in South Dakota... there are no survivors"
Me: No s*it, half the plane looks like it disintegrated on impact and the other half is more mutilated than that deer carcass i saw on the side of the highway the other day not to mention the completely depressurization of the cabin before it crashed.
I wonder if someone can survive that
Proof that every plane is capable of landing itself.
Once.
Good point why didn't it have the technology to be remotely controlled.
...six years later same thing happened to Helios flight 522, killing 121 people, grim
Ant Laud yep apart from 1 person woke up but it still crashed as he was a flight attendant
...there may have been more, what do you reckon, out of 121 its fairly possible, maybe they thought they'd just leave it to the flight attendant to sort out. But if the flight attendant was the only one they must have have thought... ...fuck it
The flight attendent had some pilot training but for something smaller, even if he tried something the left engine flamed out followed by the right and I'm assuming from what the fighter pilot saw even the attendent was losing concious slightly
Maanup ...I just checked it out, apparently he had an oxygen bottle. The passengers who's drop down oxygen masks had run out an hour and a half earlier must have been dead by that point and the pilots must have died even earlier having not put their oxygen masks on because they mistook the crucial cockpit alarm for something else. So it looks like the flight attendant was alone on a plane full of dead people about to run out of fuel.
Ant Laud they were not dead, just uncounscious
There was an investigation on this and the conclusion was that there was a rapid loss of cabin pressure. The pilots went for the emergency handbook and started to go through it, however, as it contained a lot of information and everything was crowded in it they struggled to read. The fact that they were beginning to develop hypoxia made this issue worse. The first thing they should have done was go for their oxygen masks, yet the handbook said otherwise, which could have saved everybody on board if it was correctly written. So the plane flew to a high altitude of something I cannot remember and was flying at the highest it could actually go. So high that it was bobbing because it would try to climb but descend due to how thin the altitude was. They had no choice but to leave it.
Ryan Harte-Stovell I would think they should've known immediately what was happening and should have know what to do, ie descend to lower altitude, put on masks etc without having to flip through a book. A sad incident indeed, but I think the reliance on emergency books rather than the use of common sense can sometimes lead to similar catastrophes.
TheBCSledder unfortunately pilots can’t remember it all off by heart and there are a lot of things that need to be checked. Yet this airline thought that getting a healthy supply of oxygen was not a priority and that it could wait until the rest of the plane was sorted. Even if they knew what to do, it would be following the handbook which was telling them to check unimportant things first.
Thats my problem with going "by the book"
You dont have time to read.
Yep the first thing you should do is put on the mask.
Maybe the masks didnt pop out
Jim has come up with a rough calculation of where the plane is going to run out of fuel, mabye in south dakota, mabye new zealand or jupiter
Where's it gonna hit?
The ground. It's gonna hit the ground.
That gave me a good laugh.
What if it hit a building
could've hit another plane by small chance
what if it hit a horse in south africa huh?
@@acyacy883 or a fish in the Atlantic
I remember this event! Payne Stewart was a famous golfer on the PGA Tour! This was kinda creepy for sure...a plane flying on auto-pilot with everyone on aboard DEAD!
The They CAN remote-control the majority of these electronic-laden aircraft via satellite now when They desire...
Veng3r You’re on some sci fi shit son
@@gizmo6847 nope. It's actually true. They had B-52's that were remote controlled back in WW2. Maybe you're on that sci-fi shit or lack thereof son. Before you call out someone else atleast know what you're talking about😂😂😂😂
Wasn't this plane on the episode of Ghost wispiror?
@@RsPker141 the B52 first took to the air in '52 hence the number 52 in the series. that was long after WWII ended.
That crashed 30 miles from my house and I am just hearing about this now WTF!!!
Chase Boerner k
Chase Boerner this was like in 1999
Chase Boerner if this had happent after 7/11 that plane would have been nuked the secound it stopped responding.
muuundo tarde I think you mean 9/11.
7/11 is a convenience store.
Alexis Finch nah, 7/11 is the real crime against humanity. Fucking 10 dollar piza slices? Fuck off.
When I worked at USAF HQ in Europe, a Soviet jet from Poland infiltrated West German airspace, so two F-15s went up, ready to shoot it down. But there was no driver! The canopy was blown. The MiG-23 kept flying, American pilots in F-15s from Denmark were in position, for 550 miles, several hours. Orders were given: Once it is "feet wet" over the water, shoot it down. But then, the MiG ran out of gas--so the heat-seeking missiles wouldn't find it, and bullets wouldn't explode the fuel tank! So they watched as the jet crashed into a house in Belgium, killing an 18-year-old man.
A Polish Colonel had ejected after take off when the afterburners failed. Then the MiG maintained flight! The Soviets never once notified the West that a jet was headed our way, and later never answered questions about the possibility of chemical or nuclear hazards. This kind of thing happens more often than you might realize, on both sides.
Damn that's crazy!
lol You don't drive a plane and you don't fill it with gas 🤣
@@PANZERFAUST90 With respect, Faust. People in the business use a lot of slang. Pilots often call themselves Drivers. People in the aircraft maintenance business sometimes call a fighter pilot a Stick Actuator. Cargo aircraft are called Trash Haulers. Gas is gas, whether it's Jet Propellant 4,5 or 8, or AvGas A or B. Enjoy!
@@nextworld9176 They run on jet fuel, which is a liquid - not a gas.
I assure you there's nothing to enjoy here.
@@PANZERFAUST90 Ah, a gas. i see, English is not your first language? Americans call petrol Gasoline, also Gas is the short word for any fuel.
Me: *goes AFK for literally a second*
My game:
Welcome to another episode of why this is in my recommendations in quarantine
welcome to another episode of people questioning things that dont need to be questioned
No. I know why, I’m in a marathon
Where’s it gonna crash?
Titball: “I’m on my lunch break Rob”
Tidball*
"It's either gonna hit Disney World or Disneyland.. standby.."
“Sir, we have a rogue plane and we don’t know where it’s headed”
“We need Jim titball on the scene pronto”
stop😭😭😭
"Aircraft Is Left to Fly Until it Runs Out of Fuel"
Isn't that the case with all aircraft?
Samovar maker I get your point. Nice one. Unfortunately most planes land before they run out of fuel, or patience for that matter
+MClogic True, true. I forgot about that...
You still need fuel to fly
Typically yes because if they shoot it down and turns out people where alive after all that would be a shit storm coming their way.
UNFORTUNATELY XD
I feel like the computer systems should have a safety feature to avoid this. A separate cabin-pressure detection mechanism should be tied into the autopilot. If the pressure drops below some safe level for humans and the plane's controls detect no interaction or input on any switches, dials, or sticks, the system should assume the humans have passed out. The autopilot should then immediately and automatically descend to a safe altitude where a leaky cabin doesn't matter (like 10,000 ft) so that outdoor air pressure is enough for occupants to regain consciousness and divert somewhere. You MIGHT crash into a mountain depending on where you are (but GPS + world Map could determine safe alt?) but it's better than being unconscious and running out of fuel...
You are right !
10,000 ft is enouth with little chance of terrain collision.
You could at least point out what he didn't think about and just correct him in one comment
No aggression needed
Merry christmas btw
windows_x_seven He doesn't know what he is talking about, he is just a troll.
Ike fun didn't get the Lego set he wanted for Christmas
2:19 Ryanair pilots be like
You mean 2:25
1999 I was 9 years old at the time this happened, but I can still remember hearing about it on the news. Rewatching honestly got me teary eyed, because I still remember Payne in a way. Parents would watch golf occasionally and he really did seem like a genuine nice person. Gone way too soon, he would have been a legend.
Great to watch since I'm flying tomorroe
Grant Rob Maybe you should take spelling lessons instead.😂😂
I dont get how this happens, when something in my car isn't working I have the engine light turns on. They dont have that for planes? for the pressure system or whatever its called
SAYWHAT? What if the bulb is burnt out? Shit happens. It's not a matter of if technology will fail, it's when. You try to design stuff to make that "when" way far in the future where it won't matter. But sometimes it happens anyway.
thaats true but do airplanes even have them? maybe thats sounds like dumb question but I dont know shit about planes, I would imagine they do.
Have a safe flight
“S. Dakota , N. Dakota, or California I can’t say where it will come down for sure. Somewhere in America.”
StrnFn9099 What does POLITICS have anything to do with this?! Its a joke...
@StrnFn9099 r/woooosh
Plane with no fuel hits the ground, wreckage proceeds to burst into flames
Electrical components could light the hay field
fredfred1112 No engines, no electricity. That's why airliners have auxiliary power engines in the fuselage (APU)
"There are no survivors"
No way, really? I never would've guessed.
I've been to South Dakota, it would take an insane amount of luck to not hit a field
The NTSB determined that:
The probable cause of this accident was incapacitation of the flight crew members as a result of their failure to receive supplemental oxygen following a loss of cabin pressurization, for undetermined reasons.
The Board added a commentary regarding the possible reasons why the crew did not obtain supplemental oxygen:
Following the depressurization, the pilots did not receive supplemental oxygen in sufficient time and/or adequate concentration to avoid hypoxia and incapacitation. The wreckage indicated that the oxygen bottle pressure regulator/shutoff valve was open on the accident flight. Further, although one flight crew mask hose connector was found in the wreckage disconnected from its valve receptacle (the other connector was not recovered), damage to the recovered connector and both receptacles was consistent with both flight crew masks having been connected to the airplane's oxygen supply lines at the time of impact. In addition, both flight crew mask microphones were found plugged into their respective crew microphone jacks. Therefore, assuming the oxygen bottle contained an adequate supply of oxygen, supplemental oxygen should have been available to both pilots' oxygen masks.
[A] possible explanation for the failure of the pilots to receive emergency oxygen is that their ability to think and act decisively was impaired because of hypoxia before they could don their oxygen masks. No definitive evidence exists that indicates the rate at which the accident flight lost its cabin pressure; therefore, the Safety Board evaluated conditions of both rapid and gradual depressurization.
If there had been a breach in the fuselage (even a small one that could not be visually detected by the in-flight observers) or a seal failure, the cabin could have depressurized gradually, rapidly, or even explosively. Research has shown that a period of as little as 8 seconds without supplemental oxygen following rapid depressurization to about 30,000 feet (9,100 m) may cause a drop in oxygen saturation that can significantly impair cognitive functioning and increase the amount of time required to complete complex tasks.
A more gradual decompression could have resulted from other possible causes, such as a smaller leak in the pressure vessel or a closed flow control valve. Safety Board testing determined that a closed flow control valve would cause complete depressurization to the airplane's flight altitude over a period of several minutes. However, without supplemental oxygen, substantial adverse effects on cognitive and motor skills would have been expected soon after the first clear indication of decompression (the cabin altitude warning), when the cabin altitude reached 10,000 feet (3,000 m) (which could have occurred in about 30 seconds).
Investigations of other accidents in which flight crews attempted to diagnose a pressurization problem or initiate emergency pressurization instead of immediately donning oxygen masks following a cabin altitude alert have revealed that, even with a relatively gradual rate of depressurization, pilots have rapidly lost cognitive or motor abilities to effectively troubleshoot the problem or don their masks shortly thereafter. In this accident, the flight crew's failure to obtain supplemental oxygen in time to avoid incapacitation could be explained by a delay in donning oxygen masks; of only a few seconds in the case of an explosive or rapid decompression, or a slightly longer delay in the case of a gradual decompression.
Show this mans respect, he just wrote a essay about planes and shit in the comments. A+ for you
Yousif Abdulahad and I read most of it...
God bless the camera crew you know they gotta be the best going through all those crashes I’m surprised they ain’t terrified of the next crash they have to record. Brave people I must say
That’s one big plane crashing into 5 states
I asked an old AF pilot about this. He said once per year they were taken to high altitude simulated inside a chamber so they would know what to look for and what it felt like. He said if they had just looked at their finger nails they might be alive today.
My video starts with an ad for European flight academy 😂
Just taking my trip down to the comments to see what the experts think...
Payne Stewart (PGA golfer) was on this plane. Very sad
This was a sad, sad situation. Fortunately, the people on the plane were already dead of hypoxia. Those poor unfortunate souls didn't have to suffer or go through the fear of falling out of sky. Hypoxia, you just go to sleep and never wake up. This is so, so sad. I grew up a Catholic, but I'm agnostic. However, I still pray to God that their souls have been saved and may they find everlasting peace with the seraphs of heaven, their family, friends and all who passed before them. RIP People.
Best part of Hypoxia is it causes europhia, those people died happy.
Nix Ryu The Sergal doesnt air masks stop hypoxia though?
The air masks for passengers only last about 3 minutes, if they are activated at all. They don't use air tanks they use oxygen candles, basically when you tug on the tube it starts a chemical reaction that creates oxygen. The pilots have actual oxygen tanks however they are not automatically deployed so if they didn't know there was no pressurization then they wouldn't put them on.
You're not agnostic.
Well not being bad but some of the passengers might have not devoted themselves to god so yeah only some of them or all if they did
wait this is the same guy who narrates all those monsterquest episodes...
The guy has got to do something TO eat. At least it's better work than starring in Twilight... ;)
Shane Berry Lol, I haven't even seen someone hate on that movie in YEARS. Veng3r, you are about 10 years too late.
RIP
Michael J. Kling
(1956-1999)
Stephanie Bellegarrigue
(1972-1999)
Payne Stewart
(1957-1999)
Robert E. Fraley
(1953-1999)
Van Ardan
(1954-1999)
and
Bruce Borland
(1958-1999)
I remember hearing about Stuart’s death on the news involving a plane crash many years ago , never knew how it happened until now
During my teen years I used to watch him on The golf course , he inspired me to concentrate more on my long game as I spent far to much time perfecting my short chips and putting
RIP Mr Stuart
One of the best golfers ever. RIP Payne Stewart
Thank god it was only a hay field, not a town or a city
Jacob Zondag, well u didn’t have to make a hostile point ok
Its true a lot more people could have died. Its veey fortunate it was in a field
Jacob Zondag No need to get triggered... jesus fuck.
Jacob Zondag I bet you’re a fucking libtard. Always offended. Fuck off and let people do whatever the fuck they want
Jacob Zondag I mean brother, you should still thank God for everything(even when you dont understand the plan behind it). Everything happens for a reason, from the stillborns, the plane crashes, ect. You do not have to get upset, or triggered. Be grateful you are able to type your reply to me and it is ok to thank God and be grateful that no more people died.... if you dont agree no need to be upset, but thst statement has good intentions behind it.
This tragedy occurred not four months after Payne Stewart won his 3rd major championship: the US open. He was flying to the Tour Championship in Texas, the final tournament of the golf season. He will be forever missed.
Why weren’t there alarms going off to alert the pilots that the cabin depressurized? Or was there alarms?
From what I understand if the rate of depressurization is within a certain range you just get kind of confused and pass out.
@@indianemu6749 ..I'm not familiar with clucking.
@@blujay9191
Clucking was a replacement for f***ing. However, I will swear if I must. I edited the comment for you.
It’s so drastic in real life and in the ATC Tower it’s just a dot disappearing
That can still be quite nerve-wracking, especially if you know it's near a residential area.
For us it's a dot, for the ATC it's dozens of people, jet fuel and possibly his paycheck
As johnny said, ATC is very strict. If a "Dot" disappears, so can your job.. Theres been many stories of ATC screw ups having planes near collide or collide mid air. Thats easily your job and your life if people are crazy enough. Why plane now talk to one another through singals. They know where another plane is and have a safty distance before alarms. Think the implemented devices that steer each plane away from one another too overridding the pilot..
Just like the military. To a general a soldier dying is just a line crossed off the personnel roster
Imo that's what would cause ATC the most drama and stress; that dot was the main way (and since the Fighter lost visual, the ONLY way) you had any idea what's going on. At that point it's not only totally out of your control but you don't even know what's happening.
I can only imagine how helpless the people at ATC felt at that point.
I guess they will have to respawn at the airport and try the mission again. WASTED
I guess you re an idiot and i hope Next time you'll take a flight to be on one of those planes that crash,so maybe you would not make those shitty jokes Next time😅...
JTF TeMPeST oF SKuLLS you must be fun at parties
@@ryanbramblin its not that i cant be funny,but there s a place and a time to be funny...you must be 12 if you dont understand that my dude...
@@tempestzz5682 r/woooosh
@@tempestzz5682 By the way you are typing you must be 12
“Get me a map”
*pulls out coloring book*
I sadly remember this day. As an avid golfer i was still in middle school and we were at the course when the news hit about his plane. This was a sad day for all golfers. RIP Payne.
This just gave me an interesting idea - thinking of this and the later, very similar Helios Airlines incident. The problem in both was that the autopilot didn't know or care that the pressure had been lost, it just kept flying at it's set course and altitude until the aircraft ran out of fuel. A very simple device that could have saved both would be a pressure switch (extremely simple, $10 component) installed inside the autopilot box, set so that if cabin altitude goes above say 14,000 feet, the altitude hold will automatically set to 10,000. As this simplest version I think it would be hardly any additional cost. A more complicated version, which would work well in more modern aircraft where all the avionics are tied together, could first sound an alarm, and if the pilots don't respond will set the descent, send out an automated radio call on both the currently set and emergency frequencies saying that cabin pressure is lost and pilots are unresponsive, and set transponder to 7700. The next step after that, which I think many planes would already be capable of and could be integrated into all this if the pilots don't come to and intervene, would be for the plane to land itself. Self-landing if incapacitated pilots could be useful in a variety of circumstances, including this one. Maybe also activate if pilots don't do anything or respond to alarms for a certain amount of time, the aircraft version of alerters used on locomotives, though more sophisticated as all those do is stop the train.
This idea is cool, but for whatever reason some people will dislike automation & oppose it. I also thought like you after watching a video about another crash, this one is caused by a pilot forgetting to lower flap during landing because he was busy fighting crosswind or something, I said "why not automate the flap? just lower flap automatically when landing, there's no reason not to" then people seems to not like automating stuff. There's even Lockheed L-1011 (an airliner) in 1970s that can land itself! but it fell out of favour. I think people are more scared of autopilot than pilot error!
You make some good points, people seem to fear automation. Taking this a step further would be to simply automate everything - make a self-flying plane. There's all this talk of self-driving cars, I believe that's possible but extremely difficult. Self-flying planes would be vastly easier, and I would argue safer than human-piloted in most cases. Most crashes are caused by pilot error, not malfunctions, so a self-flying plane would, statistically speaking, probably be safer. The only problem is that automated systems are only good at dealing with things that are "normal," if it's not in their programming they don't know what to do, so they are less able to think of non-standard solutions to problems. A self-flying plane never would have landed in the Hudson River after loosing both engines, it surely would have crashed. But combining automation and humans, that could do quite a lot. They're already moving in that direction, look at Airbuses in particular.
As for this auto-descent auto pilot, I don't think it would be too controversial, as it would only activate in abnormal circumstances, and the pilot would be able to cancel or override it. The idea is that it would activate if the pilot isn't conscious to do so. Auto-flaps I'd be a bit more concerned about, as if the flaps were to deploy when the pilot doesn't want them to that could cause problems. Same is true for gear, I've heard of a small plane with auto gear, it was deployed when airspeed got too low - thus when the pilot was struggling to get over a mountain pass, the auto-gear deployed, the last thing they needed in that situation, and from what I vaguely remember I think they crashed. Maybe a warning horn, similar to that used for landing gear, but people still land gear up occasionally even when there is such.
Jim titball?
Yes. He has a brother named Richard.
Chris For fucks sake man, you're my hero.
i get it hahaha
Its actually Tidball, you can clearly hear the D.
Haha i read this as he said his name priceless!
"There were no survivors"
they already died before the plane crashed
thanks for the explanation...
I remember when this happened so tragic Payne Stewart was one of my favorite golfers always colourfully dressed so sad for all onboard.
Rest In Peace Payne Stewart. Forever the best golfer of all time
I remember this one well, I lived in Jacksonville, where a main FAA node is, and this was all over our local news and internet within minutes. How shocking, RIP to all.
Vividly remember this, just happened to be off that day and followed the story on the 'net vs tv, one of the first times for me. RIP to all.
how does a plane go rogue? was it being hijacked by someone? or was it lagging at 900 ping
Cabin depressurized, autopilot still engaged
Pilots didn’t put oxygen masks on before solving the problem
@@BloxyPlayz
I don't think it had oxygen masks.
Terminal Love of course it did all planes do
Jesus Christ....can that F16 cockpit be more fake looking??
Viper360 i know, fsx textures 😂😂😂
Well it is just a reenactment...
Forreals though, it looks like someone slapped a cardboard in front of a green screen lol
I think its funny they used an A model jet, with 441's tail (its a C model) from Eglin for their animation. Nowhere near enough orange panels on that plane to be realistic.
The Joystick looks like something that Logitech would make, lol.
2:38 - The lady that looks shocked and covers her mouth. What did she expect was gonna happen? She must've thought the plane would just keep going and stay on the radar forever.
Man just you wait until she hears they're all dead too.
😱
"Where is it gonna hit?"
It's like they have placed a bet on each 5 states thst was inside that triangle lol
Was the hay field ok?
No
sarcasmo57 Lol priorities!
No there were no survivors 😭💔
It was a littlle hard but it could definitely be softer
No hay fields where harmed in the filming of this movie
No date, no information on what happened...you guys can do better
Actually this is a cut of the actual Vid Idk why the put up only like half of it but what ya gonna do
Rip Payne Stewart. Golf legend you will never be forgotten
Out of fuel... huge fireball 👌🏼
Steve B there other things in an aircraft that will make explode
No, just a terrible animation. the actual site didn't have a huge fire ball. the plane is out of fuel.
Bush did it
Aircraft make an even larger, more explosive blast when they're empty because the tanks are full of vapor and coated with residual fuel. Besides, the tank sumps are never empty unless bottom drained.
Aircraft rarely actually use 100% of their fuel tanks.
They dont pull fuel out from the very bottom of the tank afaik because of potentially stuff getting into the tank.
If they pulled fuel from the bottom of the tank, anything that got into the tank would be pulled into the engine, or block fuel flow.
So generally, some fuel is left in the tanks.
On smaller aircraft this will only be a few gallons.
On a small jet, it could be a decent amount of fuel.
“My best guess is South Dakota... possibly North Dakota...” lol what?
same thing
He is using mathematical calculations.
What's the confusion? He's calculating the distance the jet can fly based on how much fuel was loaded before takeoff.
Everyone should've immediately understood exactly what he was talking about.
How can one be taken seriously being named Jim Titball? Lol
I take it that frosted over windows means cabin depressurization at some point on the flight. That means that the crew and passengers were all long dead before the crash even occurred.
Not Me how does that work?
@@michaeldavemaligro2623 being that high up they would suffocate if the cabin doesnt have pressure.
When the pressure is lost people die of hypoxia or loss of oxygen and you can tell be the windows getting frosted instead of being clear.
whoever has time to recreate these videos is a genius. ion have time for it
I like how they were all watching the radar with fear like it was going to hit something. You can clearly see that a desolate farm field my guy