Hugo Martin on the Creativity Behind DOOM
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In our extended interview with id's Creative Director Hugo Martin, we talk to him about writing DOOM's story, designing the game's intro and how film influences his creative vision.
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00:00 - Life Before id
02:53 - Exposure to Doom
05:32 - What Makes Doom
06:58 - The Cutting-room Floor
09:24 - Anatomy of an Opening Level
30:34 - The Secret to Pace Breaks
38:23 - Last-minute Storytelling
51:24 - Brand Custodian
53:50 - Audio Design
59:21 - Doom 4 vs Doom 2016
01:01:50 - Designing Demons
01:07:45 - The Launch 
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Love his thinking, humor and explanations.
ROBBAZ SANDPIE
What are you doing here Robbaz!? I don't care what year it is get back to editing videos Robert!
Yup!
i think hes a idiot
This guy is the living spirit of 90s id software.
Best comment.
Ian Linn Very true. A real gamer with tonnes of gaming history and pop culture references on tap. He would have been right at home back in the Romero/Carmack days.
It’s bloody good knowing that Doom is in good hands.
Preach.
Indeed. Hugo knows what makes games fun
I love it so much when Devs actually care about their game. Hugo is the freakin' Creative Director of this game, and based on the way he's talking about Doom it is SO obvious that he's played through the game himself, most likely multiple times, and he absolutely loves it. There are tons of games out there that I find myself asking "Did they even play their own game?"
i can tell you with almost absolute certainty that all developers are just as passionate as this guy.
I can tell you with absolute certainty that you should never write in absolutes.
"almost absolute". Whatever that means.
in the interview hugo said when directing/making/dev anything you should know everything and anything about it. "making sports cars? well you better be driving fuckin sports cars non stop all the time" he says he played newDoom non stop all the time
Anthony Pasquarelli Only sith deal in absolutes
"People BOW to me... and I'm just SLEEPING."
Dude, thanks so much for uploading the entire interview with this guy. I think he might be my favorite game developer bar none. (Sorry John Carmack, i still love you)
Carmack for me is the #1 technical nerd. Hugo is the #1 fun nerd :)
R O M E R O?
Holy shit, didn't expect to find you here lol.
Carmack is nothing compared to these people
Cory Barlog's quite the lad as well
ID has found a new John Romero.
an equally nerdy, but at the same time more humble one IMO
Ofisil And he didn't pulled a Daikatana with this new Doom...
He would've fit in perfectly with the original developers.
romero wasn't that bad, the whole "john romero will make you his bitch" thing was the fault of a marketing company
It's hilarious to me how John Romero is so well-known for his playful 'trash talk', and id Software popularized the idea of a video game itself trash talking you (mocking and taunting you when you want to quit the game), yet everyone was furious about that Daikatana ad.
How people took that seriously and got offended/put off by that, knowing full-well that Romero is a notorious playful trash talker, is just ridiculous.
People are always so desperate to be angry about something. It's so weird.
I honestly don't think we would have gotten the DooM game we did if this guy wasn't involved. Fucking legend.
Dark Tenka you make that sound like it would have been a bad thing
Objectively not true.
sexbad because it would be. Current version is fantastic. Sorry if this version didnt gel with you, most really dig it!
ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo How would we have had this version with a different creative director?
I don't know.
I didn't say we would. I said it was wrong to say with out him we absoltuley wouldn't.
That's like saying if Hitler wasn't the leader of the 3rd Reich WW2 wouldn't have happened.
This dude is so fucking cool.
I know. He's the only kind of person I'd want to make a doom game. It's perfect. Sometimes people fit into the perfect position and make something incredible. Hopefully one day we all find that spot and introduce something wonderful into the world.
Oh shit it’s Chris Ray Gun. I would give a dollar for your thoughts on the final dlc’s wrap up for the series. Hope you guys cover it on the snark tank.
He is. Hugo is one of the very best in the gaming industry at what he does. Because to him it's all about having FUN. And his references to Robocop is precisely WHY DOOM and DOOM Eternal just WORKS. The Original DOOM was also based things the devs had FUN with: Games -- D&D in particular --, films such as Aliens, Darkness of Evil; Thrash Metal Music, etc. Pizza and soda, and lods of FUN hammering away on the keyboard, blowing up hords of demons.
John Romero was far cooler. I don't see Martin turning up at deathmatch events and pwning everybody.
Are you kidding me? A Last Dragon fan and he worked on Pacific Rim on top of Doom? He's basically my idol now.
I was sitting here wondering if that was a picture of Taimak. Looks autographed, too!
The doo guy armour does look like those rights in Pacific rim doesn't it?
Pacific Rim was.... Lol. Come on.
Metal Was what? Go ahead, speak your mind.
@@metalphobos3632 was fucking awesome? That shod be what u mean and if it's not I implore u to rewatch it bc it's the most insane and fun thing to watch
No Clip is honestly what we need in todays video game culture. Real docs that actually get down to the core. This is what all gamers want in life. This content is awesome
Blinko Agreed. Also, we need people to stop buying microtransactions so they can go away finally.
Blinko yea man reminds me of G4 and this documentary they showed about how people played doom for the school shootings and people then blamed games as a whole.
Yup!
Absolouty. It's content for gamers, by gamers, and unbiased facts.
Noclip does make some top tier content with no bullshit and fluff, it's refreshing and I have respect for interviews like this/docs like this
I absolutely adore this guy. he's not pretentious, he's super passionate, and he is so well-spoken.
Yeah exactly!
He's ruined Doom with that Eternal nonsense.
@@Foebane72 if you don’t like it don’t play it
*sees title of video, sees length of video*
YES. YES. YEEEESSSSS.
no nooo noooo fuck youuuuuuuuu
@@bruhbruh1408 Hope you get Slay'd by DoomGuy.
Haha. Exactly.
the part where he kinda censors himself when talking about robocop when he has been swearing the whole time just cracks me up every time.
"The intro was one of the last things we did"
Hugo really learned from John Romero. That's almost EXACTLY what John said about E1M1: it was the last level they created. It was going to set the tone for the game, and it had to be one of the best things the player would see. It had to capture the player's attention from the get-go.
Brilliant!
Yeah
Shigeru Miyamoto mentions this w.r.t. Super Mario Bros world 1-1 (ruclips.net/video/zRGRJRUWafY/видео.html)
So it was probably common knowledge by 1993.
Timinatr 1v1 dm
it the last thing thei did because it was rushed and they had no story.
your all praising a rushed game.. ans for the rest of your life id software will now make
EA styled rushed games..
" who cares if it's oldschool or that school if it's fun, it's the funschool that matters " - hugo martin 2016 quoted for friggin truth! \m/
It’s even more true in 2022!
yay more Hugo
That man really knows what he's talking about. (:
this is real games journalism
Please tell me "If you have a problem with the weaponisation on the demons, please see HR" is actually in the game lol
Nomad602 I am reading this comment very very late, but yes, it is part of the game!
If Doom Eternal can give us another hour of Hugo Martin...please make it happen!
Oooh you're gonna love the news!
There is another hour for eternal lol
i dont ever want to see him again..
"Within 5 minutes the game will be fun not 3 hours in" If only more games followed that thought process. Perfect.
No joke, I've listened to this hour-long interview like six times.
On my 4th time right now haha
52:26
That was a spot-on impression of a demon getting killed.
"There IS a monster in DOOM...and it's really you." Love this guy. If they reboot Quake and he's involved, it'll be glorious.
sentry07 they are bringing Quake back, as a class based arena shooter, ugh
TheBroz Would love a spiritual successor to Q2
It's not class based. It's an arena shooter but the characters are more than just reskins for once and actually make a difference which you choose. Either way, Hugo Martin can't have any input on the new quake. Id software has a team for Doom and one for Quake. Tom Willits is the creative director in that team, and he's shaping up to be a damn good one as well.
It's not class based. It's an arena shooter but the characters are more than just reskins for once and actually make a difference which you choose. Either way, Hugo Martin can't have any input on the new quake. Id software has a team for Doom and one for Quake. Tom Willits is the creative director in that team, and he's shaping up to be a damn good one as well.
Quake 1 reboot only, not the strog shite form q2 and up
AWESOME! this guy was my favorite part of the whole documentary : P
Man, the transformation in Hugo's demeanor that took place over the first 10 minutes alone shows just how perfect Danny is for the task he's undertaking. This was an unabashed joy to watch!
*Demonic Presence at Unsafe Levels, Lockdown in Effect*
"I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"
The point of it was to lock themselves away from the demons that decided to get their Bergeron with the bounce bump and boogie
“May 13, 2016. Demons came through portal today, had to rip and tear until it was done. This hell is afraid of me, I have seen it’s true face.”
After the disappointment that was RAGE, I had kind of written id Software off, and even more so after hearing about all the old-school members leaving. When the rumblings about the new DOOM were happening online, I rolled my eyes and assumed the worst.
Not only has the game completely proven me wrong, but these interviews have given a lot of insight into a team that shows it still has that essence. Once again, I'm actually looking forward to new stuff from id Software, like how I used to when I was 13.
Hugo is absolutely right - you can really see and feel the passion put into this game.
This guy is awesome. I can see why he makes so many fast friends.
My new favorite person at ID. Such a cool guy.
He mentions that if you blaze through the game focusing on combat it might be repetitive, but I thought it was marvelous. The game was a nonstop blazing trail of death, gore and bloodsplatters. It was combat nonstop, it was like playing an awesome multiplayer game but you are the only star. I beat the game in two sittings and I actually liked that, i got so into it I didn't sleep that night. I really would like to see more games like this.
Deliverygirl
I played through it in several sessions. I tried to find all the secrets, and it was so good. I like pacing like that. When there are quiet moments.
The best thing about this game is that both SuperArppis and Delivergirl played the same game but got exactly what they wanted out of it.
That's part of what makes it a great game.
If you want to go trailblazing across Mars and through Hell leaving a swath of gore and corpses in your wake, go to fuckin' town! If you could use a breather or just want to hunt down secrets/stories/collectibles, they're waiting for you, too. The core gameplay loop being "killing demons" *might* have seemed repetitive to some players if they didn't indulge in the accompanying exploration/lore/achievement hunting.
Deliverygirl I beat this game on nightmare and when you make a game that makes "me" want to get my ass kicked you have something special.
watching this made me realize even though i'm a massive doom fan, ever since doom 1 getting in trouble with my mom because my uncle brought over the shareware version and i was too young to play back in 95, it's not the gameplay or story that made this game for me (although it's all incredible). it's the atmosphere of the levels, every single level just brought me back to that original doom feeling. they really hit it out of the park with this game
Holy cow! 1 hour of Hugo? Awesome! He was the best and funniest during the 3 part series.
I watched this interview three times now..., one for each time I completed Doom 2016, and I'm still smiling each time. I really really hope you get to interview Hugo again after Doom Eternal is released. This guy has stories for years I'm sure. Such a legend. Epic! F*ck no wait... Id!
I hope this channel keeps this path, great stuff.
+1 for the comment and for Snake Plissken
"People ask me this all the time-- and it's a good question"
really small thing but this shows how considerate or at least conscious he is about communication.
This guy is just so lovable
DOO COMING TO A PROFILE PICTURE NEAR YOU!
I love this guy. Hugo genuinely seems like a really humble and awesome dude to hang out with. As someone who's been a gamer since he was a kid, not since Doom have I been so addicted to a game. To me, that's a testament to the sheer quality and replayability of this title. I can't get enough of it! It's everything I wanted from my Doom game.
More Hugo is always good
This guy is so funny, so articulate, so passionate... such an expert on media and pop culture. Amazing to listen to.
"Horns up. Heads down. Let's kill some demons." -- this needs to be a T-shirt.
I love how a 4th of the way in he drops the formal façade and goes full nerd, amazing guy
Bought this game today. You can't not refuse to unbuy this after watching the documentary. I wish they make Hugo a narrator to this game in a new Director's version. It would be just sweet having his commentary and others on what's going on while playing through again.
Agreed! They should totally do it. Will add another few hours to it.
ashishgup "you can't not refuse to unbuy this" had me thinking for the duration of this video
You literally could have said, "You can't refuse to buy this." Instead you added another double negative. It's so confusing you could almost assume you intended to confuse people and it's a bad joke.
OP, that was so goddamn confusing, lmao
There's no way that I'd not refuse to not unwant to rebuy this game after re-refunding it for sure
this whole series is one of the best game related films ive ever seen. pair that with doom being one of the best games in years, and the guys at ID being greatly interesting and informative people and its a totally winning formula.
Honesty in a work environment can be very helpful for getting the end-product right as you want it. They admit to REALLY liking the Doom on Earth idea but they were all very honest with each other admitting that no matter how good it may have been, it didn't have the "spirit" of DOOM. Thus, years later we have DOOM 2016 and it fucking blows everything else out of the competition.
I love this guy the most. He is just too cool to watch.
"He may or may not have bought all of the DLC with his lemonade stand money.
He may or may not have created a very violent snapmap level that I still can't solve.
He may or may not have made some disturbing demon illustrations in his lit textbook that may make it into the next game.
He may or may not have introduced his school bully to it who has now found a new healthy outlet for his angst.
He may or may not have suggested to his teachers that hell is awesome at his Catholic private school.
Can't confirm any of it. Please don't quote me"
What an awesome dad 👍
Considering the monsters my brother came up with at the age of three, I don't think the kid needed Doom to come up with those demon designs. Chainsaw tongues. *Chainsaw.* *Tongues.*
@@brigidtheirish I want that in doom now
@@lordofshades9852 Wait long enough, and you may get something similar. He's working on becoming a programmer and game designer.
@@brigidtheirish ....*yes*
Huh, I was just wishing I could listen to this guy talk for a long time.
I need that shotgun shell thermos in the background.
OMFG is that what that is!?
Oh shit, I just noticdd that! Awesome!
He did a masterful job with Doom Eternal. I mean holy shit. Loving every second of it.
Really? Complicated combat mechanics and Mario-style platform crap? GTFOH!
@@Foebane72have you actually tried it or are you just one of those people that looks at it once and decides to whine about it
It was amazing watching Hugo as he demonstrated Doom Eternal at Quakecon 2019; simultaneously showing his mastery of "combat chess" while also talking about the design principles applied to the game and all the game elements in front of a packed out audience of the faithful.
A follow up project to show the evolution to Doom Eternal will definitely be really interesting.
Man Hugo is awesome, could listen to him geek out all day
Me with the documentary series: "Man, I would love to hear more from Hugo. Guy is awesome."
Me today: "HALLELUJAH!!!!"
This video is basically a masterclass in game design.
This guy was my favourite part of the series.
This was one of the most well made documentaries I've ever seen and Hugo was a highlight of it.
Give this guy a raise. He deserves it.
Went back, listened to this. And Hugo amazes me. He really has broke the code about what Doom is, such a legend.
Perfect fit for ID, they must be so happy to have him!
Doom Eternal bringing me back to this in 2018 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Cant wait for a follow up interview with our favorite dev mister Hugo
@@mikebarnes7441 coming from the future to tell you: it's good
Man when hugo started talking about the rules of the game around 23 minutes in, I was so happy to hear that mindset, I love openworld games as much as the next guy, But it always has a chance of feeling way to open in terms of how to play to me and it can kind of ruin an experience, you might start playing in a way that isn't to fun for certain parts, where as in a game where he developers know exactly what your going to be doing, It can become this super fun game. Idk how to fully explain it, and hugo did a better job anyway.
I just love to hear that they thought about the mechanics that way
This guy is the real deal. A true designer with lots of passion... and he's funny ;).
thank you so much for doing noclip and providing us with these awesome documentaries. i thoroughly enjoyed every minute of all your videos. i cant wait to see what your next big project is :D
“There is a monster in Doom.....And it’s You.”
This chanel is awesome. Very good work.
That was such an awesome interview. I really appreciate what these guys did. My wife bought me Doom recently as part of my anniversary gift (awesome, I know haha), so I'm just playing through for the first time and totally loving it on so many levels. It's 100% classic Doom reincarnated to modern gaming which is just about the best thing that can happen to an beloved game series. I honestly never thought we'd get another Doom game of this callibre, so glad to be wrong.
Great wife :-)
Looks like we’ll be getting another one of an even higher caliber...so...he’ll yeah.
I’ve been a DOOM fan since the mid-90’s and had misgivings about most of the original guys being gone, but it’s great to see the series (and company in general) is in good hands. Hugo seems chill as fuck.
What wonderful erudite pieces of film, my goodness. This is such a treasure trove of gaming industry material. The love in Martin's voice regarding the entire project, wow. And what articulate people! I love this and Mick Gordon's interview. I've been dying to see something like this, to the point that I admire and envy this type of work, and the chance to do it. Mr. O'Dwyer, I can't thank you enough.
they got lucky by finding this guy..
Yeees, this guy is great. Thanks & merry xmas. :)
I was about to find another video, as the first five minutes of the interview, Hugo is kind of lethargic and matter of fact. I love how this interview develops because once he starts talking about Doom and the opening level, his enthusiasm becomes infectious and laughter and energy just start accelerating. What a great interview!
Hugo is the best game director I’ve ever personally seen
Im so happy you uploaded the whole interview. Hes such an awesome guy and you can really feel how he warmed up over time and just... talked
Good God this makes me wanna work on stuff
So glad they kept him around. Can't wait to see what else he does with id
What a great interview. Thank you, Noclip.
This is really, really awesome. Thank you so much for these extended interviews!
Dude is a perfect fit for Doom and id Software. The way he talks about it, his ideas. He's a guy who grew up while the old guard was in control and got all the good stuff from them.
I really see the Pacific rim influence infused into Doom eternal.. and I love it to god damn death. Giant mechs were a huge awesome surprise.
thank you so much for sharing more of the interview with hugo. i really enjoyed it
man what a great interview. can't believe i only found this now
I gotta say I have lot of faith in ID after this game, both since had so much fun in it and I haven't even finished it, just the feel of the gameplay, the art, the fucking metal as hell look and sound of everything, and with this guy being their creative director (even was kind of sad when it ended cause wanted to hear him talk more) was great, fantastic job ID and thank you so much Danny for making these, it's often been that like some game and wished for some behind the scenes which is somewhat rare and then only with the pricey collector editions
I'm rewatching this, and it rules how much credit he gives to everyone
Thank you for these interviews! I hope this channel grows fast, the content is awesome!
Thank you so much for creating this interview for us :)
I'm so glad id has an identity again.
Thank you for giving us this video.
I’m so glad they released this interview like this
The interviews with Hugo were the best part of the Doom documentaries. Thanks for making the full version available!
Danny, do a doc on Dark Souls, its unique focus on difficulty, and how unexpectedly popular it got! That would be so cool!
Nicholas Schrock No, Miyazaki talks about how they weren't trying to make a hard game. It was never the intent.
I'm guessing by his choice of words "unique focus on difficulty" he's referring to Miyazaki's actually intent to create something challenging but fair with the point of it being that you're victories felt earned rather than it being handed to you.
Nicholas Schrock that's a massive leap of logic you're making there, they didn't say that.
The difficulty is there but it's not mystical or fully unique or so hard you need to be pro mlg just to beat it. That's just the player reports/reviews hyped and distorted.
Guys, for fuck's sake, semantics. Put your giant e-peens away for a second. Dark Souls is generally more difficult and impenetrable than most games, what with not giving the player many directions, not hand-holding like most AAA modern games, etc. That's unique in the modern big budget game landscape (add to that its unique multiplayer component and its huge unexpected success in the West).
But regardless of its difficulty, you don't think Dark Souls is simply interesting enough in its own right to want a good doc about it? Gimme a break.
Kakto Tak K.
Dude this has to be the best interview I have ever seen. I fucking love this behind the scenes shit. I fucken subbed, alerts on, sharing every fucking video. Fuck! Dude! I really appreciate this shit really! I think, NO! I HAVE to support this. Donations when I can dude. Please, please, PLEASE, don't change the format you have going. Seriously, I would buy this. Fucking call Netflix and get this shit under documentary shit! God! I'm running out of words! Ahhhhh!
HT1313 cool your balls dude. but you're right.
Aaaaaaw yieah! bonus content! Waiting for more extended interviews.
He says exactly what you want someone in his position to say. Of all the disappoint I've had with various franchises lately (movies and games), Doom 2016 has been a shining example of when a group of people making a piece of entertainment "get it". I was in love with the new Doom the moment I touched it and I'm replaying it yet again.
Hugo's a great interviewee, thanks for another excellent vid.
“I’d rather go down swinging for the fences than bunting, fuck that” @ 51:20
Preach..
Its nice to see that 3 years ago, people was praising Hugo for being the living spirit of the 90s ID, new John Romero and that he resurrrected the doom franchise.
Now, on the new interview, people are doing the exact same thing, parising him for his loyalty, him giving 100% and never giving up.
If we just had more guys like Hugo Martin.
Great interview, man I could listen to Hugo talk about stuff all day. Thanks Noclip for the extended version!
It's fun to hear him talk.
Hugo it's so much fun to hear him talking.
Amazing interview! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the early Christmas present Danny!
Over hour interview? Instant like. Hopefully there is longer interview with Mick Gordon coming too!
Fantastic interview, I love this. The documentary on DOOM was awesome, keep the great content going!
This guy just seems really cool, keep up the great work on these documentaries Danny.
You really heard a couple of us when we said that we could hear this guy talking about references all day