How Riot Fixed Seraphine
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Legends of runeterra single handedly carrying the lore for some characters
you mean the whole lore lol
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz yup
You know what? Yeah you're right
now we need skarner in lor
Soon we’ll have Shaco Lore in LoR, but not on Universe 😂
Yep. Hair hair matters a lot. In a world where having pink hair is natural, seeing Seraphine having to dye her hair gives us the idea that she puts *a lot* of effort into her craft. Not only does she have a hand in the development of her gear, but she also changes her hair color for the stage and to solidify her superstar persona.
Also to fit in more with her fellow Zaunites
@@SingingNuke yes!! For sure!! It adds punk to the pop!
Partially related to the hair, I wonder if Caitlyn being a seraphine fan has anything to do with the pink hair (Vi lol)
Sera has a good dad, how rare.
only if ur black
@@Aunubus69 Yikes, edgy much?
@@Aunubus69 prime example of fatherless behavior right here
@@Aunubus69 your youtube account is 13 years old, you should be old enough to not be this immature.
@@Aunubus69 Cringe asf
"Hi attacker, I'm dad."
- Acoustician when he blocks
New favourite card, sorry Reggie
I can never not feel bad for skarner when I think of her story now.
Lets hope skarner rework will fix that
same, thats why ive completely removed any concept of him existing from my mind. who we talking about?
Before Seraphine I hated him for his ult, after I can sympathize with his pain. Lash out on summoners rift good friend, you more than deserved it.
@@bruh33270 "Delete current Skarner Lore, make Seraphine Lore stay" ~ Riot probably
he is the LEAST pick champ so many people forgets he exists form time to time
I agree with what Nicky said, Seraphine was basically a champion designed around a skin.
HOWEVER, Riot took the time to fix her design; and that deserves some praise.
Wish they would backport the design back to league
@@solitudesf8111 it's pretty clear nowadays that league itself is the bottom of league's barrel.
Why is the bare minimum deserve praise? After that twitter nightmare they made araund her when she came out I really don't think we should give any creadit to them. Expect for the person who redesigned it.
They don't desserve praise for that,the champion was trash on release,and they fixed her ON ANOTHER GAME,SHE'S STILL AS BAD IN LEAGUE
@@hajnahortobagyi690what’s wrong with encouraging change? If a company/someone does something you disagree with and then they try something new to make it better I don’t think going “Oh well you already did bad so why should I care” helps. That just promotes no changes at all.
The Varus' one is pretty important since it helps distingush Seraphine from Sona.
Whereas Sona has the same ability as Jhin, controlling peoples actions and emotions. Seraphine purely hears a persons song but can also hear other voices within Aphelios, Kayn, Yorick, Udyr, and all of the voidborn, etc. LoR fixes not only her lore but also her power.
It would be nice if she was involved in the figth against the void, would give her some solid lore
You mean...... *Vaarus*
@@danielcoronado4010 hell no, keep that bitch outta that
Jhin can control people? I thought his magic was just used to chop people up.
@@elderlich7562 my bad i read a theory that Whisper and the Ethwal are connected.
"Maybe the world's not ready for me. I don't mind waiting!" -Seraphine
Riot really take that quote literally
"One night he tucked the flyer under her door"
Necrit: No idea what that was.
Me: Its literally just the advertisement for the battle of the bands, that's what a flyer is. It was his way of telling her she could participate...
SAME?? LIKE?? THAT WAS SO OBVIOUS LMAO
Another thing that Necrit completely missed that peeved me was in the Acoustician's description: _"Once, he'd dreamed of leaving Zaun and traveling the world with a song in his heart. Now, the world was asleep in her room, waiting for the songs tomorrow might bring."_ ; the flavor was telling about his dream to travel the world, but once his daughter was part of the picture, she became his world. But Necrit missed the underlying meaning and interpreted it as him fixing Sera's guitar when she was asleep lol
I like how she doesn't say anything to him, nor him to her back, It's one of the best interactions between video game characters I've seen!
I was like "YOU LITERALLY JUST READ IT!!!"
As someone who currently lives in war I would add that her "tiktok" vibes personality is something regular civilian people need. I can't tell you how much all the quirky optimistic songs has helped me to go through the year without losing my mind completely. And they gathered a big audience too, even had concerts in subway stations.
When Seraphine was released I was also kinda disappointed with her character design at first, but now I see it as a more realistic character to live in that area. Not everyone should be a fighter, but giving hope is a huge task as well.
(I'm not talking about her as a appearance in-game, but more of a concept of a optimistic out-of-settings singer living in a very dark place).
THIS.
Well done to Riot for getting Seraphine fixed. Also, we all need someone like Seraphine's dad.
I kinda want Seraphine to appear in arcane now simply so we can spend time with her dad lol
Dady issues
@@girl..... sit down Nelson
Why are people agreeing with him. Seraphine is still lame as hell lol. The story was every kids tv show ever plot line, with some slick designs. It's fine to like seraphine but why is my man defending her, and saying she is cool, tf lol. Seraphine's dad is good person, not "a Chad". The squirrel thing is a filler to all the non existent plot, character, and lore that my girl seraphine has. My point is don't let riot get away with what Disney did and is doing.
@@CrushedDoll a tepical league player opinion 🤡
I think the brown hair making her seem more realistic is kinda funny considering that Jinx has naturally blue hair and Vi has naturally pink hair. The grown out roots are a cute look though!
that is the point as of now with her hair, helping the "idol" theme and the zaun part of things, as most people in zaun have exotic hair colors
If you notice almost all Zaunite characters have unnaturally colored hair from birth meanwhile piltovian characters have more grounded tones in their hair. So having Seraphin dying her hair to appear more connected with Zaun is a cool touch.
Seraphine's dad melted my heart. Also the Diva is 200% into Sera
So Seraphine isn't bi good for Rell made sense why she riot made it seem like she had a crush on ekko.
Fr!!!! And every time a homophobe cries over a gay league character it adds 5 years to my lifespan
@@t3ap4rtypr1nce6 Yeah rell and Seraphine is star guardians. And Seraphine and the zaun diva it makes no sense why Seraphine was talking to ekko.
@@t3ap4rtypr1nce6 LMAOO
@@andrewpenny4676 and when everyone was complaining about how graves and tf were forced but like
They're no more forced than garen and katerina 💀💀💀
LoR improve Sera by basically expanding and adding in additional tidbits that she lacked in her LoL introduction. Her performing at Zaun, her interactions with her dad, and even her art shows so much like her making her guitar and her hair being dyed. While, i wish we get to see more of her empathetic abilities, hopefully this gets expanded on in Skarner's rework.
Seraphine's new design for me has things that make it WAYY better
-there is not glitter in her clothes, there is no material that would seem out of place for a Piltovan
-she has the same aesthetics as the other champs around her
-it shows us the type of person she is better than her lore
-It ages her a little bit, maybe similar age to Zeri and gives her a unique face(thank u Jesus)
I really really like her! It wouldn't be bad if they changed her ingame appearance to fit
It wouldn't surprise me if they make seraphine half-ionian (from her mother side maybe)
@@ranggabagaskara2423 quite like cait
It's cool. They made her alot more similar to her KDA version, ie 'spunky kid working hard and trying to make it' that's naturally gonna make her more relatable than LoL Barbie or whatever they were going for originally.
I want them to make her base skin look like this and maybe retire the other one as like a legacy skin or something
Or give everyone this updated one like when they gave us all the arcane skin shards
@@gman7497 Bro even Barbie’s better than whatever that was 😭😭😭
What I like about this is that the Seraphine in League still plausibly exists with this update, LOR just shows us another side of her.
You couldn't convince people League's Seraphine would go anywhere near Zaun, something even the champion designers seem to agree with judging by the voice interactions of champions released afterwards.
This Sera opens up the idea that Seraphine would cater to different audiences, with different costumes and everything it's great
Yeah it can be like she has outfits to please each audience, when she goes to Piltover she has to get all fancy and in Zaun it's more grounded...
Either that or the LOR version is sort of her "past", with her eventually getting into League form as she grows more popular...
The Wiki basically confirms it. The LOR design is based on how she dressed before she became a superstar.
The Wiki basically confirms it. The LOR design is based on how she dressed before she became a superstar.
2:26 Necrit, is the piece of paper you're talking about, the "flyer" in the story? It's the flyer for the music duel, which was his silent way of showing her he knows where she goes "in secret", and he approves of her.
Her having a good dad was such a nice touch to her character
I think the reason why LOR has such good lore building is because none of it is fully cannon. It gives the developers the freedom to go wild and without delays. I just hope that whoever is in charge of the lore in Riot considers their lore ideas seriously.
the luckiest part for me is that since all the pieces of media under the lol ip are disconnected lore-wise on diff. levels of canon/reality, you can just as easily enjoy the lor project as the be-all for worldbuilding since tbh nothing else has come close to its level of development.
How to fix Seraphine's lore for good:
Make Skarner's story move forward (cyborg Skarner concept).
Have Mecha-Skarner raid Piltover to save his people.
Make him meet Seraphine and have her read his mind to learn the truth about Hextech.
Turn Seraphine into a protest singer, questioning Camille's ways and exposing her to the public.
Make Seraphine challenge Camille to a rap battle (optional).
rap battle?
awesome 🙃
You fool. This just gave me an idea for a plot.
Camille woulde roast her to death, as she does with every other champ
This.
I WANT THE RAP BATTLE SO BAD
At the finale zaun diva shows up and they finish it off together
They really did amazing with League's lore. Makes me love playing LOR even more.
Meanwhile, Seraphine (the card) makes you hate playing LOR even more.
@@garrisonwu5862 ok yeah, that's true. My decks can't counter sera great.
LoR card game suckss when it comes to balance
Legends of runeterra really said "i can fix her" and did.
I am very curious to see a mini-series about Seraphine now arcane style and having it fit into with the Arcane universe
Seraphine in her popular queen era 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
In fact, I'm surprised that he left out the interaction he has with Varus, where he can not only "hear" but also "silence" someone, in this case the souls of Valmar and Kai. That was a pretty wild interaction I think.
LOR is the best thing that could have happened to lol because at last they give us the content we wanted so much.
Edit:Now im thinking about...Sona can controlling the body of his enemy but Seraphine maybe can control their minds, together that duo it's really danguerius.
I think the best thing that could happen to LOL is a competent balance team but okay...
Yeah she an empath.
the twitter response of this video is going to be very calm and reasonable
why? I don’t use twitter a lot so I might not get the reference or the sarcasm
Honestly I am of the opinion that Seraphine could very easily be fixed if they literally just put her into a good story.
That’s the case for most problematic characters in League, frankly. Just give them good stories to flesh them out. Good execution can redeem almost any concept.
Let her interact with Ekko, or Zeri or the other Zaun kids. Maybe explore how they feel about her - Zeri for one seems to be less than impressed with her. That’s grounds for interesting conflict.
Have her interact with Skarner, or Zac who has similar empathic abilities. There’s a ton of different routes to take her character down if Riot is willing to just explore them.
The Zaun kids just see her as yet another idealistic Piltovan with no idea how their city works. I don't think she could have much of a comeback to them. If anything I would love to see what other Piltover characters think of her, since they would be the ones against any kind of peace.
Yep, after the fixes to her initial bio, Seraphine has always been a character with a lot of lore potential. Contrary to the biases many people had against her character, they'd make you think that her character was irredeemable without a retcon or rewrite of some kind and the fact that LoR does not contradict anything from her current bio disproved those biases.
@@RockBand971cait is a fan of sera.
@@thedailypersonsopinion2099 I mean caitlyn is also one of the few decent people from piltover so makes sense
@@RockBand971 Then it's a good opportunity for character development. You can have Seraphine second-guess herself, maybe question her own methods and goals, and perhaps find a better way to help Zaunites.
Ever since that Seraphine card came out I was thinking how cool would it be if seraphine came out with 2 default skins. One same as the default and one similar to the lvl up card.
It would make it more obvious that she changes her appearance based on where she's performing, with Piltover being all about looks and greatness and Zaun being more grounded
06:53 is a reference for Perfect Blue!
One of the characters' face (Mamoru Uchida, Me-Mania, don't search for spoilers!) type is SO similar to him. Also he was usually wearing uniforms like stage staff or security or janitor etc.
Considering Seraphine is a singing "idol" too, puzzles align greatly!
Hope Seraphine's fate won't be dark like that anime too though :,,)
Looks more like the guy from WUG
That picture could also be of Seraphine's Zaunite mother. Seraphine's choice of colour could be her way of keeping the memory of her mother (who was probably a singer herself) alive.
Incredible video, love your talks about Runeterra. I think the paper her dad slipped under her door was likely the Discreet Invitation :)
Hopefully skarner will be a more active part of her story and not something that got push to the side
I want him to be furious at her bc she knows.
@@zema9401 well she does not really know in the current iteration ... its till not properly fixed ... but something changed again she does not know what is in the crystal she just hears something ...
Loved that video. LoR has such utterly gorgeous and detailed art any analyses of that are much appreciated!
This Seraphine is an amazing character
She still needs a lot of work lorewise but seems Riot is heading in the right direction. I know they are willing to fix stuff but it just takes them forever.
Yup, they are doing VGU and reworks which are nice. But I also notice that they are probably focusing on Project L (fighting game), their MMO and Arcane season 2. But hopefully they still fix and flesh out some champs
now I have such high hopes for her to make an appearance on the next season of Arcane
it would be cool if seraphine's mom is a psychic, possible connected to targon. a lunari who escaped from the massacre and one day stumbled upon piltover, who she met seraphine's dad. that explains seraphine's powers and the hex crystals she tinkered with enhances her abilities that's why she can hear even higher being's voices
As soon as I saw seraphine’s redesign I knew Necrit and TB Skyen would be all over this. I love it when they talk about the importance of character design, talking about what does or doesn’t work and why.
This really speaks to the ability of the Runeterra team. This is so them though, they've really elevated and fleshed out so much of League lore, and it's the same brilliance that made Arcane so good.
Anime reference is Kakegurui, he is also a leader of a singer's fanclub
Acorn just out here doin his best
She belongs in the universe/game more than Akshan
I really hope Seraphine and Diva are a thing, cause I am all for the sparkly popstar and grungy metalhead duo
I second the motion, we stan chaotic-good duos in this house
The piece of paper mentioned in her first splash was just the flyer for the event that it mentions, the musical duel she thought he wouldn't her to participate in.
you're telling me she's better without the platform, with a gitar and with clothes that have the correct color palette?
how did they ever figure that out e.e
The bar is a tripping hazard in Hell at this point LMAO
If she ever gets this look as an LOL skin, she should replace her floating platform with driving around on a moped. I'd buy it! 🙂
@@paulgibbon5991 I think the Rustic look suits her better than the over glossed up outfit etc.
The LoR "what if" scenarios and story line of the world ending thanks to the fight between darkin with Ryze and Kayle added to the mix is really awesome and I love what RIOT is doing with it
When it comes to LoL lore I don't see them bothering with it since they're not really gonna change the map or how characters interact as much
can I get a link to this?
God finally, I love Seraphine with all my heart but Riot put so much effort on his KDA backstory that they forgot she had to fit in Runaterra after Worlds 2020. All this lore is incredible and I hope they don't miss the chance to expand the fact that she can hear Brakers inside hextech gems when Skarner rework is released.
Omg this is wonderful. I love her new relatable look. And fits well in the world. Her pet is sweet and her father is very caring and inspires her. I love this new look they showed us. The details with the brown root hair and coffee made me relate to her.
the piece of paper says flayer he was giving her promotion for the show as a way of saying he was okay with it
LoR Devs need to be the narrative writers for all of the future champs from now on.
If the core universe is giving us the Ruination and LoR is giving us Seraphine's dad then I think we all know which one should be taking charge of the lore
Yeah! And WHO has to pay MORE ATTENTION to the Champions' lore and designs...
2:31 the flyer is for the musical duel, its her dads way of quietly showing approval of sera following her dreams
I Love how deep u go into detail because those artworks are handmade and should be seen as a special forever before AI is comming
With how dry on content League PC has been it's a shame a lot of people won't try LoR just because it's a card game, especially up and coming content creators who have to choose between actually growing but having to play nothing but soloqueue, or having fun messing around with different decks but having a very limited audience.
if only this was one of seraphine original skin , but we got stuck with the sona re skin , just imagine seraphene walking and viving kind of like annie walking animation but tall and with a guitar that shoots music , much more rock guitar hero and less pop star.
6:48 Nanomachines, son
The piece of paper was the flyer. A flyer is advertisement and in this case, advertisement for Zaun's music duel.
"...and I'm totally ready to embrace it"
**sounds of explosions and crumbling walls**
Pulsefire Cythria: f*ck I NEED TO GO EVEN FURTHER BACK IN TIME TO COLLAPSE THE CONCURRING TIMELINES
This is the seraphine I wanted in the game. Not some preppy, egotistical, under-the-surface "I'm better than you" pop-star, but a down-to-earth musician who just wants to make a difference in the world. Her character in-game makes me think of "woke" celebrities that try to "share the plight" of the less fortunate while never actually walking in their shoes. Especially since she literally never even sets foot on the rift. Makes it feel like she couldn't even bother to get her shoes wet.
In-game=/=in universe... Why would you want a character who never says anything but nice things in game lol.
@@tompatompsson i mean, aatrox exists and his voicelines are great
@@nu_kercat1 I agree but his lines are definitely not nice?
@@tompatompsson and??? who wouldnt want a cocky dude in a video game?
@@nu_kercat1 ... That's what I'm saying?
2:30, the paper slid under her door is probably referring to the "Discreet Invitation" card
The paper was a manifest of the musical challenge.
So Not only did they made Seraphine into a proper Champion from Runeterra, but they also gave her Scratch?!
I love everything about the expansion they did.
She feels more natural, her dad is just the best and her (not confirmed) girlfriend is soooo cool.
I really enjoy hearing Necrit lose his lore-loving ass over this. It's really enjoyable and put quite a smile on my face.
Also I really do agree that this change to her in LoR is very cool. Kind of hope they make a future skin for her where when she ults, she pulls out the guitar and she starts jamming, with the length of jamming lasting as long as her ult travels. With the flame on her guitar going too.
A "flyer" is an advertisement, also known as a "handbill;" a printed paper with promotion info, often for an event. It's not a blueprint. Presumably it was an advertisement for the Zaun musical event mentioned in the text, indicating that her father knew about it and approved.
I'm pretty sure the flyer under her door was advertising the duel event.
Lore wise maybe, gameplay wise...
She was a HUGE middle finger, but she got heavily nerfed and right now she’s just good
I'd love to hear your thoughts on what unexplored sections of the lore you'd like to see touched on more. What obscure tidbits do you want to have expanded on, and what unseen vista do you want to see in the upcoming mmo?
for me, the areas between Noxus and Demacia, the Serpentine Delta area, and the subregions of the Freljord
The Guy in the BACKGROUND is a reference to the creep from Perfect Blue
MY GIRL GOT HER JUSTICE WE CHEERED
"This is a Christmas miracle!"
*Seraphine release in LoR: October 12th*
(Yes I know he said it was late but that's still funny to me)
So while I agree with most all the points, the one thing I never agreed with is Seraphine's hair. Look at Jinx, Vi, and Zeri, all from Zaun, all with their hair these unnatural colors, especially Zeri basically being neon green. I always thought her pink hair made her seem a little bit more like she was from Zaun for that reason alone.
we know from the direct whats to come, its gonna be great
And while that concert was happening, in the deepest parts of Zaun a third artist was also playing its instrument but with songs filled with anger and hatred, Styraatu the Darkin Harp
The Legends of Runeterra champion designs are just incredible. Jax, Zilean and Master Yi got similarly excellent glow-ups and I prefer LoR's Udyr design over his LoL rework appearance.
Riot give LOR actual support please
Ready to embrace the weird petricite statutes made by that one dude?
that guy looks like dr. tucker in FMA anime :D
Its so baffling to me that so many people pretend seraphine committed an entire genocide and that skarner was the main victim of it because a singer has a sparkling dress and pink hair
Glad that they added that hinted friendship / rivalry maybe even more with the Zaun Diva, hope they expand on it
Bold claims Necrit, bold claims, you got my interest
I imagine Necrit as a father only appreciates the card interactions even more, i am not yet a father but would like to be soon
Finally Riot showing some love for the single dads out there
I like what they've done with Seraphine's story here but it doesn't change the fact that piltover runs on the corpses of my guy's family members and that Seraphine knows but keeps using hextech anyway..
The paper her dad slid under her door says it's a flyer. He basically just non-verbally told her to go to the concert. He knew she really wanted to go, even if he doesn't really want her to.
bet there is going to be a bit of a background reference to seraphine in season 2 of arcane.
Riot needs to give Sona some justice too. Seraphine always seemed like a Sona Rework in tearms of theme, kit and aesthetics. Not lore obviously. The first musician need some love...
I have no idea how Sona will work in Demacia for LoR, but I know she'll have fantastic flavor lol
Theme is different, Seraphine is moreso on the idol thematic while Sona is on the instrumental thematic
Kit is different too, Sona plays on the traditional Ministrel support skills (debuffing and buffing) in MMORPGs while Seraphine plays around a bard's destructive kit mixed with an enchanter role (only her W : Surround sound)
Aesthetics are heavily different just from the design alone. And to be honest, the only reason that she gets compared to Sona is because of their powers being literally Music.
Gameplay wise, they play differently as well.
Sona is more on Sustain and buffing
While Seraphine is more on making sets.
Sure Sona can do sets with her Ult, But Seraphine is moreso inclined with it due to her E, Which doesnt have a unit cap as well as combos with previous afflicted debuff on a champion
Plus, You gotta admit, Sona is basically Riot's poor attempt on making a ripoff of Hatsune miku playable in game
And dont even try to tell me that just cause she has twin tails doesnt mean she's Miku, Cuz She literally IS fashioned to be Miku - Blue hair, Music themed, and Long twin tails with bangs, Which is ngl, kinda eh...
(Riot basically tried to bootleg other charaters from popular franchises like for example, Sivir, They tried to make that warrior princess girl) lol
@@zwiebeldogs She could be a Demacia Inonia Multi Region Card that would be interesting
@@zwiebeldogs Probably more on the Lux side of things, or even the criminally underrepresented anti-spellcast cards that really need a champion other than Galio just... having spellshield.
Let's go LOR
“Once, he’d dreamed of leaving Zaun and traveling the world with a song in his heart. Now, the world is asleep in her room, waiting for the songs tomorrow might bring” my heart 🥺
I always thought the picture the Dad had was of him and her mom and she colors her hair to look like her moms.
I always tear up on how much of a save this is from... whatever we have in leauge. The two are so different it's hard suprising that they still haven't updated the leauge version.
Legends of Runterra to the rescue!
I would really like to see Janna in LoR now...
Me too imagine her and Seraphine work together.
@@andrewpenny4676 Especially because Janna is my main since I started LoL haha
@@gergomolnar2334 Yes and if Seraphine could get her fans to chant Janna name and praise her would that empower janna?
@@andrewpenny4676 Hmm its a bit complicated. Janna need believers to be stronger, not fans. But again, fans may count as believers so I dont know😄
@@gergomolnar2334 Yeah so 50/50 and if Seraphine can hear souls could she find Janna? Also if Seraphine can manipulate emotions with her empathy would she attract demons?
The quote from her dad's card had me sinking
I though the flyer her dad slipped was the newspaper under Sera's mic in her level 1 card art. It should have the picture of a Zaunite.
The power of good writing and dad jokes can makes wonders for one's character.
The Zaun Diva has *such* Marceline(from Adventure Time) vibes!
Going to the speed of light
I'm pretty sure after skarner rework riot will put him and seraphine to have a long quest together abt saving the crystal things etc and etc
I'm interested
Necrit, why didn't you show how awestruck Seraphine was towards Ekko? Weird thing to not include.
Wait Seraphine is bi ok wonder why her dad didn't talk to ekko then too.
@@andrewpenny4676 Because Ekko did not get additional lines for the expansion.
@@MalevolentFae Yet why did they have Seraphine talk to him at all then?
@@MalevolentFae Yet why did they have Seraphine talk to him at all then?
@@andrewpenny4676 Cause champion interactions are important, especially where they make sense.
Haven't finished but did you forget that her lor look is DIRECTLY INSPIRED by your videos and artists on twitter hating her league look?
Is there an interview that stated that? Kinda hear this for the first time
6:23
That cat is in the star guardian blogg she made remember 🥰🥰
oh Seraphine’s dad text is so cute. Calling his daughter his new world sleeping 😢