The 10mm 3.8" XDM Elite has taken the place of my G20 on my hip. Better sights, eats everything, better ergonomics and no barrel changes needed for whatever ammo I choose to run through it. It's my hiking, camping, atving woods gun here in the Colorado mountains. Underwood 200 grain hardcast is what I feed it up there. I did put a Talon Pro grip on it because the XDM grip texture is not ideal. It's also my winter carry piece when the heavy clothes and jackets come out. Underwood again has an impressive round for that as well. 135 grain, 1600 fps, 768 ft/lbs muzzle energy. That will get the job done!
@@GunsNGames248LOL Says the Glock fanboi... LOL I own both (and other Glocks as well) but I carry the XDM. The Springfield is more reliable with hot loads and no barrel change needed when I carry/shoot my 200 grain hardcast woods ammo.
I chose the G20 & 29 not only for the stopping power, but for the versatility to change into alternate caliber ammunitions when your preferred is not available by just simply swapping the barrel; 10mm, .40 cal, .357SIG, & 9x25 Dillon.
@@roncoon3464you don’t even have to change the barrel in the xdm from 10mm to 40 it shoots both w the same barrel and almost any gun in 40 s&w can be converted to 357 sig or 9mm
I personally Iike the XDM I own the 3.8 and the 4.5 and I love them both and have never had a problem with either one of them and I can't comment on the GLOCK because I have never owned one and don't really like the way they feel or look.
I have the Springfield XDM and I shoot at least 200 to 250 rounds through a gun before I determine if it's reliable. Carry gun either for EDC or woods carry. I shot every ammo through it including Underwood without a hiccup.
I think the XDM is reliable. I think you didn't have a FTF or a FTE issue. You had a locked back, that is only suppost to happen on the last shot because the mag design pushes up the slide lock . I think it most likely was shooters trigger hand hitting right side slide lock.. If I owned that XDM, and never intended to sale, I would dremel off that right side slide lock because I would conceal carry the XDM. I have a GK 29 gen 4, but like the feel of the smaller handle of the XDM 3.8 is better for me because I have medium small hands. The 29 feels good, but handle is a little too big for me. I agree with you about the polygonal barrell issue on the Glock, not being designed for really hot loads. Good video.
It appears that the slide locking open might be related to that ambi slide lock. It looks your index knuckle was activating the slide lock. It’s been a reported issue on the compacts mainly. I have the compact in .45 and haven’t experienced it but I’ve seen other reviews report the issue. Should have been reversible on the compact.
I just purchased the XDM elite 3.8 and it is far superior to the glock G20 that I have owned for several years. As for the Springfield FTFs I hate to say it you must have been you activating the slide lock as I have seen this happen first hand in person. I have not had a FTF in 300 rounds. GET THE SPRINGFIELD... Glock needs to get with the program and make some advancements and improvements. Glock would be smart to take Lee Iacoca's advice "You either leed, follow or get out of the way!" Glock better start trying to leed because they are getting pasted up by many other manufacturers. I would take a Canik any day over a glock.... Sorry all of you glock fanboys but the truth hurts. There latest "big Release" was a .22lr???? seriously?
Off topic but i have a Glock 20, i heard you could shoot coated hardcast like underwood out of a stock barrel? I have 200 and 220 hardcast with a red coating for grizzly. I live in Montana 😊 The 29 he has ran fine, he said he stuck the stock barrel back in.
get the XDM, if a bear is on you you're gonna be pointing and blasting with no time to aim down sights. having a gun that strikes true to where you point it on the draw will save your life. and not just with bears. stay safe.
I’ve had a Glock 29 for three years. Loved it. Had to sell it to get some money. This week I Got a great deal on a XTM elite with the dragonfly optic. 3.8 barrel and a tlr1s. Shot it for the first time today and I must say it’s a better shooter than my Glock 29 was. I ran Underwood 155 gr, double tap, Sig elite, and Corbon through it today and it ran very well and the recoil was better than on my Glock 29. The pistol is very reliable and extremely accurate. I do look forward to getting another Glock 29 in Gen five comes out. The GEN five Glock 20 is out now
Very interesting. This is by far the worst performance I've seen from this XDM model. In fact it's the only failure I've seen in that gun from several reviews including torturing it beyond anything Glock boasts. Would love to see a follow up with an explanation for the cause of that failure to cycle. Thanx for the great video!
I have a colt delta elite in 10mm. BUTTT am thinking of getting a XDM in 10mm in the 3.8 . Can you get a 40s&w barrel for it? KISS ALWAYS and OLD DEVIL DOG.
Interesting about the Glock polygonal rifling? I knew about the cast bullet issue but I thought plated bullets wouldn't matter. Obviously with those hot loads it does. The rounded rifling must be smearing and not engaging properly. My 40 S&W Glock shoots plated bullets just fine with a stock barrel but they're loaded at a modest velocity. Thanks for sharing a good video
I own both. Prefer the Glock for 2 reasons. I don't like the feel of the XDm grip and I hate the grip safety. They are (for me) equally accurate and recoil is about the same. My Glocks mags do have extended bases which makes it much easier to shoot.
My edc is a G29sf,,, don't feel the need to try anything else... My old hands required some larger release levers and I put a tricked out oem trigger from Johnny Glocks on it.... I don't experiment with rounds much either. I shoot range for practice and Hornady extreme for carry. The other pistol looks cool but I am not even sure it is for sale in the Communist Republic of California.
The “issue” with the XDM is the slide stop. I have one and first I thought that was a malfunction, but is not. The slide stop is very sensitive and if you touch it with your thumb while shooting, the slide is going to stop, and keep it open. It’s just practice, don’t touch the slide lock while shooting.
I would go Glock. But not giddie about finicky barrels. Springfield makes great guns and always have. However, some of us still have a bad taste in our mouth over them trying to through us under the bus some years ago and never taking ownership of such a wrong. Others don't care and that is certainly fine. But some do care. And that is fine also. The beauty of liberty.
Yeah I held a grudge for a while but they apologized and moved on. People forget bill ruger supported certain gun control and smith & Wesson, colt, all did things not in our favor as well.
The Springfield locked open because you hit the slide stop up from the recoil. Thats not the guns fault. Thats shooter error. Need to put your thumb on support hand.
Very well could be. Haven’t had the issue before this video and haven’t had the time to try to replicate it but as soon as I figure it out I’ll update.
Any update on the issue? I put 320 rds through my brand new baby today (freedom munitions, Underwood range supply, Underwood XD)... experienced 6-7 same failures to cycle between three ppl including myself, between the three cartridges. All using excellent grip technique with different size hands. Everything else about the firearm was great but this issue may be deal breaking for CC... very discouraging
@@g.brooks5866 I haven’t had time from work to mess with it much, I’m leaning toward a stiffer recoil spring to maybe see if that resolves the issue. I had this with my G29 using hot loads and the stiffer recoil spring solved it for that one.
@@thegundungeon Interesting, Thanx for the feedback. Is there an OEM or aftermarket option for the XDM Elite? Haven't seen one. And why would that prevent the slide stop from being engaged?
I got a xdm elite 10mm 4.5 inch a few months ago. It's in fde, optics ready, and has the new super trigger. I forgot what they call that trigger. I guess it's a nice pistol. Seems reliable, and accurate if you keep concentrating and pulling on that awful trigger. The damn thing reminds me of turning the crank on a jack in the box. Sooner or later something is gonna happen. You take the slack up, hit the wall, pull some more, and it will start moving again, keep pulling and it will go through a fee more sticky spots, but just keep pulling and bam! The damn thing is accurate though. I ordered a fusion commander in 10mm yesterday. Someone is gonna get a good deal on my springfield!
Update, the more I shot the springfield the better I got with it. I'm used to the trigger now. I think the issue may have been that it just feels different bc I've shot glocks so much. I got the 10mm commander from fusion finally, and it shot 2 feet high at 25 yards, and the mag jumped out every couple of shots. Its been back to them twice now, and I've decided I'm gonna have to do something with the sights myself. It is nowhere near as accurate as the springfield. I'm keeping the springfield. I actually killed a 225 ppund boar with it at 40 yards. The fusion will probably just get thrown in the safe as I couldn't sell something that awful to anyone.
Could have been riding the slide stop on the Xdm I feel the Xdm is better overall than the glock 29 especially since you don't have to swap barrels it eats everything
Well put together video in keeping all things equal. I'd never have a 10mm as a carry gun (weight, recoil, ect), the juice just isn't worth the squeeze for me. Always love your fair and balanced videos and whether videos or the shorts you have some pretty rockin' music.
Your XDm lock-up may be due to improper thumb position. Check your grip. I’ve never had another failure to feed after correcting my hold. For me, recoil differs only slightly from my XDm ..40 S&W “hot” loads. XDm 10mm is my new fishing partner…
I already have the XDmE, but I am actually researching the G29. I picked up the CMMG MK10 Banshee in 10mm recently and thought it was time I forced myself to finally get over the grrip angle and learn to shoot a Glock so that I have magazine compatibility across both platforms. Great comparison.👍
I have many Sigs and Springfields. If they don’t have a manual safety, they better have a grip safety. Glock needs to step up their game and offer a grip safety.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. You’re one of the few that like the grip safety, they’d never sell enough to cover the cost of tooling to justify it.
@@thegundungeon The chances of me having an AD is far higher than my ever needing my gun for self defense, so to me it only makes sense. So many times things I carry during the day have turned off my manual safety.
@@kdw75 I’m not disagreeing, just saying it’s not the popular opinion lol. I doubt there is enough market demand for it to persuade Glock to make it an option. If we can’t even get them to produce a PCC… lol
I actually like grip safeties now. If i have a close range threat and am shooti g from the hip because there is no time to aim, i sure dont want a regular safety i have to switch off when i can pull and squeez. It could save your life.
@@Dirty2Clean1980 Yeah, I literally can't imagine anyone NOT wanting them. The only argument I have heard against them is people saying things like what if my hand is shot and I have to use my opposite hand to fire it upside down blah blah blah. Could it happen? Sure, but that chances of that happening is so infinitesimally small compared to the chance of an AD, that it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Yeah I was shocked by the xdm in this video, I’ve shot it a good bit and hadn’t had the slide locking issue before I turned on the camera. Unfortunately I haven’t had time to mess with it to see if I can replicate and diagnose it.
Reliability trumps all, so Glock is superior. That said, I replaced my stock Glock 20 10mm unsupported barrel with a threaded KKM better supported barrel to shoot all ammo & has been 100% reliable. Also installed a -3.0 connector & did the 25 cent trigger polishing job. Added Talon grips for Glocks slippery grip, & walla, now have an expensive but reliable back woods carry pistol.
The slide locked open because he hit the slide stop up, wasn't a failure of the pistol. That's the only possible cause of that. It happens a lot to people that don't shoot XDs all the time. He probably shoots Glocks all the time. I had the exact opposite problem when I first got mine. I kept hitting the slide release and it wouldn't lock open after last round. Once I started putting my thumb firmly on support hand, it stopped. Not knocking this man in any way. I support all 2A RUclipsrs, this channel is very good.
The 10 is just too much for guns this small. Ultimately, a 9 is a better carry option; more rounds and much less recoil cuz it's the 2nd and 3rd shots that really make the difference.
Eh if you train with it you can use it effectively. I have a short coming out where a viewer asked me to see how fast I could hit 4 different targets with 4 shots from the g29. With full power loads it was less than 2 seconds from the beep.
@@thegundungeon it just seems like more "mine's bigger than yours" macho shit than it's that much more effective in the real world unless you're around bears more than people. Idt the guy in the video shooting a 10mm glock with a switch was using a 29.
The Springfield XD line is just sexy, except for the goofy looking one with a hammer. I have the XDS Mod2 OSP in 45acp. Awesome firearm. Handles the recoil like a champ. I do wish someone would make a gas pedel for that model. I went with the XDS because im very skinny and the XDS is thin as hell. Easy to conceal. Harder for me to not print with larger pistols.
This is the second video where i've seen malfunctions in the xdm. The first one the youtuber was definitely unintentionally hitting the slide lock and was able to stop the issue when he really concentrated on it. I've watched gundungeon videos in the past with this gun and you've always had great results. I've watched maybe every other youtubers video on this gun and the thing just performs flawless over and over. So i expect something weird going on. I personally love, love the xdm 10mm. Its my favorite pistol. Never have had a malfunction yet. I also have the g29 and i shot it for the first time. Only several mags but i enjoyed it as well. There are some types of bullets i will not shoot out of it though. P+P ammo, aluminum cased bullets, and hard cast due to nonfully supported barrel. But i do like the gun.
I fired my XDM elite 3.8 10mm for the first time,about 500 rounds,no problem,I emptied it all , including my wallet.Oh boy !! But it’s really good.😊 I did not hit in one group about 20 yards but all the bullets is inside the 8 inch circumference which is not bad for a rookie or just a luck probably.. I think I have to spend more ammo,but the price is not a joke anymore.oh boy again.Anyway it’s a good presentation we’ll done my friend,Peace be with you everyone.
I have both of these guns XDM Elite and G29SF Gen 4. Love them both but generally carry the G29 and use the XDM as a home defense option. I have an issue with the open backplate on the XDM, so prefer not to carry it. As I said I love them BOTH and shoot them pretty similarly. Underwood 165g 10mm as a carry load. Great video, thanks.
@@ThisIsWhatIDo77 Big hole/opening on the backplate that allows debris in. Have you got one or seen one? I carried one and that was what relegated it to range and home defense. G29 took it’s place
You wanna listen the recoil more call up Glock Store get a tungsten guide rod. Do you want to lessen it up more put a TR seven light on it that’ll take away some recoil did for my 30 Glock.
Hands down for the Glock 29 with Alpha Wolf barrel and McNally trigger assembly. The thin blackstrap safety on the XDM is a negative deal breaker for me.
@@kenkempa9907 I go for an optimum field gun for me, whether I have to spend more money or not to get there. Glock 29 with that McNally trigger assembly and Alpha Wolf barrel is far better field gun than an XDM.
I have the Tanfoglio poly compact and the XD-M 3.8 in 10mm. Both triggers are MUCH better than the Glock, with the Springfield having the better DA (not really DA, of course) pull and the Tanny having a fantastic SA. I'm still carrying the XD-M, but if the Tanfoglio had a decocker, it would likely be my EDC.
Surprising. If I had the option behind enemy lines I would not have bought my Glock 29SF. If the roster goes eventually, or I make my escape, I want an XDM...originally figured I'd sell the 2x4 with a crappy grip angle but now time will tell on that. Shocked on the XDM failures. I have owned a 5" XD40 for 15 years and shoot it really well. THANK YOU for the comparison!!!!
I've had my XD-M 3.8 10mm to the range every 3 or 4 weeks since I've owned it... 11 months..., put 75 -100 rounds through it every time, and still haven't had a single failure. I run at least a box of Underwood 180 gr. or 200 gr. JHPs every time, along with a 50-round box or more of 180 gr. FMJs, Remington, Winchester, Blazer or S&B.
Are you seriously not going to put them side by side? Carry dimensions are the only reason to get a 10mm this small. No one cares how you shoot it. Won't ever get THIS time back.
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The 10mm 3.8" XDM Elite has taken the place of my G20 on my hip. Better sights, eats everything, better ergonomics and no barrel changes needed for whatever ammo I choose to run through it. It's my hiking, camping, atving woods gun here in the Colorado mountains. Underwood 200 grain hardcast is what I feed it up there. I did put a Talon Pro grip on it because the XDM grip texture is not ideal. It's also my winter carry piece when the heavy clothes and jackets come out. Underwood again has an impressive round for that as well. 135 grain, 1600 fps, 768 ft/lbs muzzle energy. That will get the job done!
Got the same pistol. It thrives on my handloads with Blue Dot and any bullets I top 'em off with.
@D-A-1776 no way you get the same ballistics 😂
G20 way better
@@GunsNGames248LOL Says the Glock fanboi... LOL I own both (and other Glocks as well) but I carry the XDM. The Springfield is more reliable with hot loads and no barrel change needed when I carry/shoot my 200 grain hardcast woods ammo.
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Grip safety.....I don't even feel it.
You must have really soft hands.
I chose the G20 & 29 not only for the stopping power, but for the versatility to change into alternate caliber ammunitions when your preferred is not available by just simply swapping the barrel; 10mm, .40 cal, .357SIG, & 9x25 Dillon.
You can turn them both into .45's (Glock lowers for the 10mm and .45 are the same), but then you'd have to change the barrel and the magazines.
@@roncoon3464you don’t even have to change the barrel in the xdm from 10mm to 40 it shoots both w the same barrel and almost any gun in 40 s&w can be converted to 357 sig or 9mm
I personally Iike the XDM I own the 3.8 and the 4.5 and I love them both and have never had a problem with either one of them and I can't comment on the GLOCK because I have never owned one and don't really like the way they feel or look.
I have the 4.5 as well, they are great guns. I’m glad we have options for most everyone these days in the beautiful 10mm lol
The 4.5 and the 3.8 slides are interchangeable. Both run flawlessly
I have the Springfield XDM and I shoot at least 200 to 250 rounds through a gun before I determine if it's reliable. Carry gun either for EDC or woods carry. I shot every ammo through it including Underwood without a hiccup.
I’ve never had a problem with either XDM or the G29. I have both and am totally satisfied with them.
XDM for me
I think the XDM is reliable. I think you didn't have a FTF or a FTE issue. You had a locked back, that is only suppost to happen on the last shot because the mag design pushes up the slide lock . I think it most likely was shooters trigger hand hitting right side slide lock.. If I owned that XDM, and never intended to sale, I would dremel off that right side slide lock because I would conceal carry the XDM. I have a GK 29 gen 4, but like the feel of the smaller handle of the XDM 3.8 is better for me because I have medium small hands. The 29 feels good, but handle is a little too big for me. I agree with you about the polygonal barrell issue on the Glock, not being designed for really hot loads. Good video.
I have both. I prefer the XDMe trigger
It appears that the slide locking open might be related to that ambi slide lock. It looks your index knuckle was activating the slide lock. It’s been a reported issue on the compacts mainly. I have the compact in .45 and haven’t experienced it but I’ve seen other reviews report the issue. Should have been reversible on the compact.
I own the G29 and it always surprises me how well it handles recoil, even with my 200gr hot loaded handloads
Hard to beat for sure
I just purchased the XDM elite 3.8 and it is far superior to the glock G20 that I have owned for several years. As for the Springfield FTFs I hate to say it you must have been you activating the slide lock as I have seen this happen first hand in person. I have not had a FTF in 300 rounds. GET THE SPRINGFIELD... Glock needs to get with the program and make some advancements and improvements. Glock would be smart to take Lee Iacoca's advice "You either leed, follow or get out of the way!" Glock better start trying to leed because they are getting pasted up by many other manufacturers. I would take a Canik any day over a glock.... Sorry all of you glock fanboys but the truth hurts. There latest "big Release" was a .22lr???? seriously?
LOVE my Caniks!! Waiting for my XDM 3.8 Elite to ship home to my FFL this week. Excited!
10 mm underwood in 135 has velocity in magnum and energy. Plus it's lighter .
I have the same xdm and have not experienced the hold open issue
It was a break in issue, it resolved itself
Off topic but i have a Glock 20, i heard you could shoot coated hardcast like underwood out of a stock barrel?
I have 200 and 220 hardcast with a red coating for grizzly. I live in Montana 😊
The 29 he has ran fine, he said he stuck the stock barrel back in.
get the XDM, if a bear is on you you're gonna be pointing and blasting with no time to aim down sights. having a gun that strikes true to where you point it on the draw will save your life. and not just with bears. stay safe.
I’ve had a Glock 29 for three years. Loved it. Had to sell it to get some money. This week I Got a great deal on a XTM elite with the dragonfly optic. 3.8 barrel and a tlr1s. Shot it for the first time today and I must say it’s a better shooter than my Glock 29 was. I ran Underwood 155 gr, double tap, Sig elite, and Corbon through it today and it ran very well and the recoil was better than on my Glock 29. The pistol is very reliable and extremely accurate. I do look forward to getting another Glock 29 in Gen five comes out. The GEN five Glock 20 is out now
i want the 29 in gen 5 very bad but dont know if it will ever come out
Very interesting. This is by far the worst performance I've seen from this XDM model. In fact it's the only failure I've seen in that gun from several reviews including torturing it beyond anything Glock boasts. Would love to see a follow up with an explanation for the cause of that failure to cycle. Thanx for the great video!
Keep'em both. Damn straight!
Absolutely lol
New Springfield like to be run wet. Glocks shoot out of the box
I have a colt delta elite in 10mm. BUTTT am thinking of getting a XDM in 10mm in the 3.8 . Can you get a 40s&w barrel for it? KISS ALWAYS and OLD DEVIL DOG.
I believe Barsto makes one.
Lol people just be saying anything. Dude just buy a 40 cal if u want a 40
I have a 40 a S&W 411.😊
The XDM is the superior gun. Glock isn’t making anything as good as Springfield
Springfield trigger feels ever so slightly better, but Glock is basically a reliable proven pistol. I prefer the lower/smaller barrel offset of Glock.
Interesting about the Glock polygonal rifling? I knew about the cast bullet issue but I thought plated bullets wouldn't matter. Obviously with those hot loads it does. The rounded rifling must be smearing and not engaging properly. My 40 S&W Glock shoots plated bullets just fine with a stock barrel but they're loaded at a modest velocity.
Thanks for sharing a good video
I own both. Prefer the Glock for 2 reasons. I don't like the feel of the XDm grip and I hate the grip safety. They are (for me) equally accurate and recoil is about the same. My Glocks mags do have extended bases which makes it much easier to shoot.
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I have both. My experience is the jams are cartridge issues
My edc is a G29sf,,, don't feel the need to try anything else... My old hands required some larger release levers and I put a tricked out oem trigger from Johnny Glocks on it.... I don't experiment with rounds much either. I shoot range for practice and Hornady extreme for carry. The other pistol looks cool but I am not even sure it is for sale in the Communist Republic of California.
Looks like you need to tighten up your wrist a bit.
Thank You! Very helpfull. Greetings from Guatemala
Try 90 gr or close to it
Good video, thanks. I have a G30s and love it. I've been wanting to get a G29 or a G41, not sure which yet. Agree with you on the ambi controls.
I will eventually get a 40 mos and set it up for hunting deer
I have a Glock 29 with KKM barrel and tungsten guide rod, and carry 15 round mag with the grip sleeve and love it
Just convert your 30s to 10mm. Then you’ll have a g29s.
The “issue” with the XDM is the slide stop. I have one and first I thought that was a malfunction, but is not. The slide stop is very sensitive and if you touch it with your thumb while shooting, the slide is going to stop, and keep it open. It’s just practice, don’t touch the slide lock while shooting.
Regardeless its still a malfunction...when your under the gun who wants to have to think about bieng overly cautious not to "touch" the slide stop...
I would go Glock. But not giddie about finicky barrels. Springfield makes great guns and always have. However, some of us still have a bad taste in our mouth over them trying to through us under the bus some years ago and never taking ownership of such a wrong. Others don't care and that is certainly fine. But some do care. And that is fine also. The beauty of liberty.
Yeah I held a grudge for a while but they apologized and moved on. People forget bill ruger supported certain gun control and smith & Wesson, colt, all did things not in our favor as well.
The Springfield locked open because you hit the slide stop up from the recoil. Thats not the guns fault. Thats shooter error. Need to put your thumb on support hand.
Very well could be. Haven’t had the issue before this video and haven’t had the time to try to replicate it but as soon as I figure it out I’ll update.
Any update on the issue? I put 320 rds through my brand new baby today (freedom munitions, Underwood range supply, Underwood XD)... experienced 6-7 same failures to cycle between three ppl including myself, between the three cartridges. All using excellent grip technique with different size hands. Everything else about the firearm was great but this issue may be deal breaking for CC... very discouraging
@@g.brooks5866 I haven’t had time from work to mess with it much, I’m leaning toward a stiffer recoil spring to maybe see if that resolves the issue. I had this with my G29 using hot loads and the stiffer recoil spring solved it for that one.
@@thegundungeon Interesting, Thanx for the feedback. Is there an OEM or aftermarket option for the XDM Elite? Haven't seen one. And why would that prevent the slide stop from being engaged?
@@g.brooks5866 I think it slows down the recoil and keeps it from slamming against the frame so hard. Weird things happen at extreme velocities lol
XDM for me.
Both are great, nothing will replace my g20 but this definitely replaced my 29 mainly because itll shoot hard cast without changing the barrel.
Underwood and buffalo bores hard cast is hard enough to shoot out of a stock Glock barrel. Both companies go over this discussion.
You really are fool of it the x.d.m.. is a much better gun in evry way and hits harder than glock .
How does the xdm hit harder than the Glock? They are chambered in the same round.
I got a xdm elite 10mm 4.5 inch a few months ago. It's in fde, optics ready, and has the new super trigger. I forgot what they call that trigger. I guess it's a nice pistol. Seems reliable, and accurate if you keep concentrating and pulling on that awful trigger. The damn thing reminds me of turning the crank on a jack in the box. Sooner or later something is gonna happen. You take the slack up, hit the wall, pull some more, and it will start moving again, keep pulling and it will go through a fee more sticky spots, but just keep pulling and bam! The damn thing is accurate though.
I ordered a fusion commander in 10mm yesterday. Someone is gonna get a good deal on my springfield!
Maybe you got a lemon as far as the trigger is concerned, mine is pretty good.
@@thegundungeon I think I did. I got to handle another one, and the trigger is way better than mine.
@@roosterfish3248 I have 3 xdm’s and the triggers are all pretty good.
Doesn't seem remotely like the trigger on mine. Personally think mine is super good. You might want to have a gunsmith check it out.
Update, the more I shot the springfield the better I got with it. I'm used to the trigger now. I think the issue may have been that it just feels different bc I've shot glocks so much.
I got the 10mm commander from fusion finally, and it shot 2 feet high at 25 yards, and the mag jumped out every couple of shots. Its been back to them twice now, and I've decided I'm gonna have to do something with the sights myself. It is nowhere near as accurate as the springfield. I'm keeping the springfield. I actually killed a 225 ppund boar with it at 40 yards. The fusion will probably just get thrown in the safe as I couldn't sell something that awful to anyone.
Could have been riding the slide stop on the Xdm I feel the Xdm is better overall than the glock 29 especially since you don't have to swap barrels it eats everything
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I have a plethora of Glocks and they all have aftermarket barrels and heavier recoil springs.
Great video, I own both, and the 29 is a keeper.
Thank you! I’m definitely keeping both lol
The G29 looks like it is WAY flatter shooting
With reliability being the most important factor, I'll stick with the Glock 29.
Thanks for the comparison.
Well put together video in keeping all things equal. I'd never have a 10mm as a carry gun (weight, recoil, ect), the juice just isn't worth the squeeze for me. Always love your fair and balanced videos and whether videos or the shorts you have some pretty rockin' music.
Thank you! I typically carry 10 in the winter when it’s easier to get away with a larger gun and I tend to be in the woods more. Thanks for watching!
Your XDm lock-up may be due to improper thumb position. Check your grip. I’ve never had another failure to feed after correcting my hold. For me, recoil differs only slightly from my XDm ..40 S&W “hot” loads. XDm 10mm is my new fishing partner…
Good chance of it. A stiffer recoil spring slowed the slide velocity enough where the issue went away.
@@thegundungeon probably tamed the recoil too!
G29 is a great 10mm
I already have the XDmE, but I am actually researching the G29.
I picked up the CMMG MK10 Banshee in 10mm recently and thought it was time I forced myself to finally get over the grrip angle and learn to shoot a Glock so that I have magazine compatibility across both platforms.
Great comparison.👍
The grip angle issue isn’t as pronounced on the shorter grip guns like the g29.
@@thegundungeon Thanks
Do you feel like you have a better grip on the XDM or the Glock? I’ve heard that the XDM Elite 3.8 is almost identical in size to the Glock 19.
Both are almost identical to the g19, just a little thicker. The stippling is more aggressive on the xdm though so that does help.
@@thegundungeon thank you so much for the input. Happy holidays!
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I have many Sigs and Springfields. If they don’t have a manual safety, they better have a grip safety. Glock needs to step up their game and offer a grip safety.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. You’re one of the few that like the grip safety, they’d never sell enough to cover the cost of tooling to justify it.
@@thegundungeon The chances of me having an AD is far higher than my ever needing my gun for self defense, so to me it only makes sense. So many times things I carry during the day have turned off my manual safety.
@@kdw75 I’m not disagreeing, just saying it’s not the popular opinion lol. I doubt there is enough market demand for it to persuade Glock to make it an option. If we can’t even get them to produce a PCC… lol
I actually like grip safeties now. If i have a close range threat and am shooti g from the hip because there is no time to aim, i sure dont want a regular safety i have to switch off when i can pull and squeez. It could save your life.
@@Dirty2Clean1980 Yeah, I literally can't imagine anyone NOT wanting them. The only argument I have heard against them is people saying things like what if my hand is shot and I have to use my opposite hand to fire it upside down blah blah blah. Could it happen? Sure, but that chances of that happening is so infinitesimally small compared to the chance of an AD, that it seems like a no-brainer to me.
good comparison. Both had an issue.
Yeah I was shocked by the xdm in this video, I’ve shot it a good bit and hadn’t had the slide locking issue before I turned on the camera. Unfortunately I haven’t had time to mess with it to see if I can replicate and diagnose it.
@@Blankee-o1t yeah, needed shot more with the hotter loads. It went away after some rounds.
Reliability trumps all, so Glock is superior. That said, I replaced my stock Glock 20 10mm unsupported barrel with a threaded KKM better supported barrel to shoot all ammo & has been 100% reliable. Also installed a -3.0 connector & did the 25 cent trigger polishing job. Added Talon grips for Glocks slippery grip, & walla, now have an expensive but reliable back woods carry pistol.
Glock is tough to beat for sure
The slide locked open because he hit the slide stop up, wasn't a failure of the pistol. That's the only possible cause of that. It happens a lot to people that don't shoot XDs all the time. He probably shoots Glocks all the time. I had the exact opposite problem when I first got mine. I kept hitting the slide release and it wouldn't lock open after last round. Once I started putting my thumb firmly on support hand, it stopped. Not knocking this man in any way. I support all 2A RUclipsrs, this channel is very good.
The 10 is just too much for guns this small. Ultimately, a 9 is a better carry option; more rounds and much less recoil cuz it's the 2nd and 3rd shots that really make the difference.
Eh if you train with it you can use it effectively. I have a short coming out where a viewer asked me to see how fast I could hit 4 different targets with 4 shots from the g29. With full power loads it was less than 2 seconds from the beep.
@@thegundungeon it just seems like more "mine's bigger than yours" macho shit than it's that much more effective in the real world unless you're around bears more than people. Idt the guy in the video shooting a 10mm glock with a switch was using a 29.
@@vannevels6758 well I have a few videos coming out that may change your mind, specifically heavy winter clothing video. Stay tuned lol
@@thegundungeon I will
You just not a realcman and can't handle 10mm
The Springfield XD line is just sexy, except for the goofy looking one with a hammer. I have the XDS Mod2 OSP in 45acp. Awesome firearm. Handles the recoil like a champ. I do wish someone would make a gas pedel for that model. I went with the XDS because im very skinny and the XDS is thin as hell. Easy to conceal. Harder for me to not print with larger pistols.
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This is the second video where i've seen malfunctions in the xdm. The first one the youtuber was definitely unintentionally hitting the slide lock and was able to stop the issue when he really concentrated on it. I've watched gundungeon videos in the past with this gun and you've always had great results. I've watched maybe every other youtubers video on this gun and the thing just performs flawless over and over. So i expect something weird going on. I personally love, love the xdm 10mm. Its my favorite pistol. Never have had a malfunction yet.
I also have the g29 and i shot it for the first time. Only several mags but i enjoyed it as well. There are some types of bullets i will not shoot out of it though. P+P ammo, aluminum cased bullets, and hard cast due to nonfully supported barrel. But i do like the gun.
This issue resolved itself after more shooting. Don’t know if I adapted or the gun broke in but it’s not an issue any longer.
@@thegundungeon good to hear. Thanks for your great 10mm reviews. Give us more.
I fired my XDM elite 3.8 10mm for the first time,about 500 rounds,no problem,I emptied it all , including my wallet.Oh boy !! But it’s really good.😊 I did not hit in one group about 20 yards but all the bullets is inside the 8 inch circumference which is not bad for a rookie or just a luck probably.. I think I have to spend more ammo,but the price is not a joke anymore.oh boy again.Anyway it’s a good presentation we’ll done my friend,Peace be with you everyone.
If you’re going to run much 10mm, you really need to look into hand loading.
I have both of these guns XDM Elite and G29SF Gen 4. Love them both but generally carry the G29 and use the XDM as a home defense option. I have an issue with the open backplate on the XDM, so prefer not to carry it. As I said I love them BOTH and shoot them pretty similarly. Underwood 165g 10mm as a carry load. Great video, thanks.
Valid argument. Haven’t really thought about that
What do you mean by open back plate ?
@@ThisIsWhatIDo77 Big hole/opening on the backplate that allows debris in. Have you got one or seen one? I carried one and that was what relegated it to range and home defense. G29 took it’s place
@@ThisIsWhatIDo77 there’s a significant size opening in the backplate of xdm’s
You wanna listen the recoil more call up Glock Store get a tungsten guide rod. Do you want to lessen it up more put a TR seven light on it that’ll take away some recoil did for my 30 Glock.
I've never had a ram in my XDM ever
Hands down for the Glock 29 with Alpha Wolf barrel and McNally trigger assembly. The thin blackstrap safety on the XDM is a negative deal breaker for me.
So, buy a Glock... then have to buy a barrel... then need to buy a trigger group... So you can't just buy a Glock???
@@kenkempa9907 I go for an optimum field gun for me, whether I have to spend more money or not to get there. Glock 29 with that McNally trigger assembly and Alpha Wolf barrel is far better field gun than an XDM.
I think I would prefer the 10mm Tanfoglio polymer frame compact over either of these.
I’ll have to take a look at that one
I have the Tanfoglio poly compact and the XD-M 3.8 in 10mm. Both triggers are MUCH better than the Glock, with the Springfield having the better DA (not really DA, of course) pull and the Tanny having a fantastic SA. I'm still carrying the XD-M, but if the Tanfoglio had a decocker, it would likely be my EDC.
Surprising. If I had the option behind enemy lines I would not have bought my Glock 29SF. If the roster goes eventually, or I make my escape, I want an XDM...originally figured I'd sell the 2x4 with a crappy grip angle but now time will tell on that. Shocked on the XDM failures. I have owned a 5" XD40 for 15 years and shoot it really well. THANK YOU for the comparison!!!!
Fire issues I’ve had with the xdm. Thanks for watching!
I've had my XD-M 3.8 10mm to the range every 3 or 4 weeks since I've owned it... 11 months..., put 75 -100 rounds through it every time, and still haven't had a single failure. I run at least a box of Underwood 180 gr. or 200 gr. JHPs every time, along with a 50-round box or more of 180 gr. FMJs, Remington, Winchester, Blazer or S&B.
@@StevenRogers-hw9dj Thanks! The rumor is CA may put it on the roster next year.
Are you seriously not going to put them side by side? Carry dimensions are the only reason to get a 10mm this small. No one cares how you shoot it. Won't ever get THIS time back.
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