So so true. I'm Christian and I had been wondering how hell is like... until I realised that my marriage is exactly how hell feels like. Hell it not literal fire, but is extreme anxiety, confusion, frustration, disappointment, betrayal, regret, rumination and the like.
Narcissism = wickedness. Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Isa 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Isa 5:23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Pro 6:12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth. Proverbs 6:13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; Pro 6:14 Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord. Pro 6:15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy. Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
YES! My ex didn't manage to instill his awful values in me, but I felt trapped in having to live with his behaviors. This caused me to experience cognitive dissonance...I felt like my whole life was a lie.
Telling them no, or just doing what YOU want are the best test, hands down. They will react - be in name calling, gaslighting, yelling, or silent treatment.
Nina don’t forget. They will also smear you behind your back. My NPD brother is smearing me behind my back to my oldest brother (antisocial personality disorder/psychopathy) and has turned him against me. In a way it’s a blessing but you are right. They only know to react. They don’t know how to walk away and leave something alone. They’re toxic and empty emotionally.
At a dinner his dad mentioned that his mom gives him (dad) the silent treatment. His discarding was the best thing he could have ever done for me. I avoided a family of narcs.
The behavior that prompted me to start research was: 1. The unusual repetitive behavior patterns I've never seen from another adult 2. The shocking lack of empathy and sudden behavior shift after the love bombing stage
I ended up here because she accused me of being a narcissist. I’ve heard people talk about it but I didn’t really know what it was exactly. So I looked it up, realized she was projecting, and here I am.
Same, she called me a Narcissist and I knew nothing about it but the control aspect , I don't try to control people ever. This confused the hell out of me so I started watching videos of Narcissists, my gosh it was like watching a movie about her
I am 5 months nc with my monster former brother. The brain damage and ruined family relationships continue and healing is not easy. Nc is only step 1. The damage is severe and very hard to overcome.
@@djordjemiljenovic9387 i am right there with you. This information will never be taught in schools nor to professional counselors. The reason is we are living in a narc infested world.
In my experience, the first clue is if you sense you're being intentionally triggered. Its the first thing a narcissist does, push your buttons to identify your weaknesses and vulnerabilities to exploit, then the hell begins, a constant game of push you away and pull you back in. There's no fixing it, RUN! and don't look back.
Once the mind games began, I noticed that was normal for her but hell for me. The push and pull, yes and no, hot and cold. I realized it wasn't gonna change because she accepted the chaos as normal. I knew I couldn't fix her so I pulled away more and more...now I'm a lousy son of bitch by her and her family. I should be happy, but I miss certain things about her.
I am very sensitive and have an anxiety disorder and worry. My sister-in-law has studied this in me to escalate her attacks. She ridicules me, gaslights me, and loses her temper.
I have an old saying… I’d rather have the cold truth, then a warm lie. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, I’ve been in denial for way too long. I am disabled, and this narcissistic person loves to use it against me, but I am getting my power back. I’m bringing my health back and I’m getting back into the world, with a fun fulfilling new job,
I'm a person that hates being told lies and people just trying to convince me of lies to make me somehow fool myself into "positive thinking" or some crap lol, that never works and if it does only temporarily it's one of the reasons the typical mantras about success and stuff makes me cringe so much it's not real or realistic. I couldn't fool myself even if i tried either i'm too smart for that i can't even underestimate myself because i'll do anything and find some way around it to not do it which also can make things difficult on myself lol being smart also has it's drawbacks unfortunately, not even other people can fool me for very long even if they manage to lol and even if they did they still couldn't fully fool me. I don't think usual therapists would work for this reason plus there's so much left out and they're too scared to go so much deeper then there's finding someone you click with, it's all about suppression with them too. Nah i just need the truth i'm also easy like that, people have gone around and around with me doing other things in a much more complicated and difficult way and then insist that is the only way and that i'm the issue. Nah sorry i know the truth and it's not the only way and certainly not the easiest possible solution. Truth is all there is and the best and fastest solution out of any of it we don't need to make things more difficult than it already is.
Well done..I too am disabled after A stroke think it was brought on by the stress in our relationship. She h As been caring for me but doesn't really care for anyone but her image as an amazingly empathetic person. I'm in her country and have attempted to leave on sever Al occasions. I'm so addicted to her I keep coming back
I actually came here to see if I was the narcissistic one in my relationship. I am in tears right now, realizing I was made to think I was as a means of control. Being unable to make decisions for myself, living like a zombie, compromising my personal ideals... it's like you could see in my head. Thank you for shattering the illusion.
A narcissist would never look up material about narcissism and try to find out if they are one 😐 it seems that they never scrutinise themselves. You have just being gaslighted. Stay strong and recognise their BS🙏🏼❤
My mom was like that years ago... I got out, but my younger brother stayed near her influence until she died in 2014... he's an alcoholic now. Get some therapy. Those tears you shed is pain, and therapy will help. I did 4 years of it, and it really, really helps.
Oh they will make you think that you are the problem and the narcissist. You’re not. You’re the empath that they were able to suck the life out of. I hope things have been getting better for you!
With one of my daughters this was the hardest part, when I said no there was a price to pay. The whole thing put me on the cardiac floor at the hospital, the Drs. told me to cut contract for 3-4 months. Four years of therapy later, I am getting better at leaving it all in God's hands. I was trying to be the best Christian I could (insert your faith), so I just kept forgiving for years, until it made me ill. My blood pressure is awesome now, and I have more peace. ❤️🙏✝️
debbiedean3165 Religious beliefs can be just as unrealistic as anything else in the society we all live in and just look at how intentionally unrealistic that is. I went to a church of england primary school too that accepted kids of all walks of life but they taught us consideration of others, but then somehow the teachers and others were always allowed to not be considerate of us and if we tried to express how we really felt and the real truth of it then tried to stand up for ourselves to get justice for how we were being treated suddenly then you are the bad guy or they did nothing and just kept going "just ignore it". This is used in none church places too but i think it's a bit worse at places ran by churches because you must be considerate of others no matter what happens or you're being hurt. The real truth is though we cannot always be considerate of others and people who aren't of us don't deserve to be considered at all, it's clear why so many of us have Complex PTSD these days it's all so frustrating and confusing and clearly it's all helping narcissistic people take advantage of others and it sucks. I totally get it i really do you just have to ignore what society is pumping out to us and focus on what's real.
34 years and two now teenagers for me. Filed for divorce a month ago, absolutely terrifying! I ended up in a psych ward with bipolar diagnosis last year, and he blames it all on that! As if our "marriage" wasnt over years ago. But now I can hope again, that I will have my freedom. Richard you are the best! Keep the hard ones coming, please! ❤
I'm in the process of moving out and he was supposed to be out of state with his grown children but he came back after a week and a half, like I knew he would. I have not had to face him yet as he stayed in his man cave in the garage but I know when I get home from work he will probably try to talk. I have already done everything you just talked about and bought myself a house in a different town that he doesn't know where it is. His new supply already found out he is a lying cheating narcissist I'm leaving after 20 years so I know he's going to try and change my mind and hoover at some point through my packing up and moving. Whats helping me is that my grown son is with me right now and that keeps the narc at bay. Pray for my strength y'all! I got this!
Can i ask if anyone has had an invitation via Richard through whatsapp? I have.. and I'm unfortunately sceptical ..😆🙄 I don't even have this app .. Just curious..? Anyone ever???
@@lillahbohamah5975 I would, however, I believe the closest you will get is this complementary webinar, or subscribe to his program. Believe me, I would have asked myself. BE STRONG SPARTAN🙌🙏🙌🙏
I was raised by a narcissistic father. He's 82, and he has never changed. He admitted in 2022, after I addressed him about his abuse, and he admitted he would never change. In 2017, I entered into a relationship with a man that I didn't recognize as having NPD until I watched this video. On June 14th, 2023, he stated to me, "I thought about asking me to marry him, but". When he said but, I said, "No." But when I said "no," nothing else was said. The next morning, he told me he didn't love me anymore and asked me to move out. He refused to speak to me and wanted nothing else to do with me. After watching this video, I can now look back and see what he was doing to me. I'm trying to move forward and search for ways to overcome his abuse. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It has been helpful, and I will continue to seek self-help therapy to become a stronger person.
The nightmare I don't want to face is looking back at myself years down the road and saying I should have just left. I could have been so happy. I could have actually done the things I wanted to do.
One of the best videos on narcissists I’ve ever heard in plain, simple words. Excellent. I couldn’t help think that we are dealing with this on a macro scale… literally half the world is operating this way and gaslighting us on a massive scale on too many things to name. wonder if anyone esle feels the same
I normally balk at all these self promoting life coaches stating the obvious and hustling for ratings and fame. But Richard has blown my mind. His analysis is so on the mark, and can only have come from survival of his own brutal experiences. I am blown away by his intelligence and generosity to want to share and empower.. Probably the most articulate piercing lucid profiling and tutorial on the hell that is living under the tyranny of a narcissist. I truly love his soul.
For sure. Grannon is the real deal, and he's a warrior for the cause. I trust his insights. Every video I have seen and each of his presentations have been so spot on. I feel extremely lucky to have this information now. I'm very grateful for his presence online and his work.
What is working for me right now is I moved on as though this person is dead in my life. How would I live if this person was dead for real is what I will do now moving forward
I agree. I don’t talk about my experience to many people, they glaze over in misunderstanding. Oh he’s so lovely, entertaining, kind…. Blah blah. Richards info is spot on & could only come with lived experience. I’m very grateful 🙏💗
I wish there was more education about this in the general public. I hear too often about women who choose to have children with these beasts and end up in advertently, exposing their children to life altering experiences.
There needs to be more education about these monsters, being safe from them should not be a privilege but a right. They cause so much harm and don't care for the consequences for other people that they have to go through just to get away from them. My family is safe now too, but my mother put me through hell and tried to destroy everything and everyone I have ever loved. And my children were not safe from her, along with myself especially as I was a direct target.
I am so happy for you. Unfortunately you are tied to the narcissist so be very careful they do not use the children to get back at you. I am estranged from my children because of the narc. Never underestimate them.
These Narcs ruin people’s lives. There are no laws in my state that protect you from these abusers. Currently I’ve filed for divorce and my attorney sees a serious threat and has filed for a protection order, which the judge denied, because he sees no imminent threat.
I found out by Googling the question why won't my husband ever say sorry. When I started reading I felt like I couldn't breathe like someone had punched me in the gut. It was the most bizarre thing ever to see phrases and things like walking on eggshells and gaslighting and word salad and things that all made sense to me. It definitely has empowered me and also watching videos such as yours and others. It truly does seem as if we have some dark people roaming. God bless and keep you!
@@meganbrain6634 isn't it the truth oh, they will even blame you for things that they have done. They can run into a parked car and still somehow it will be your fault. I have seen it over and over again, they're very blame-shifting and ruthless. And somehow they can sleep anywhere, anytime, there's a lack of conscience so they can sleep like the dead.
@@karinajones1121 exactly, accepting blame to them is like death, they're fragile egos can't take responsibility for their own mistakes. It's an exhausting game oh, and we need to leave them!
Just did my core value test. I now see why I can attract narcs but why they can’t stand me. My top five are authenticity, forgiveness, trust, courage and compassion. Yes I can be forgiving and compassionate but my authenticity and courage always protect me by irritating those who fail to control me. 😊😊😊😊😊 I’ll keep being myself. It’s so good!
@@FancyForestPerson - that was so interesting! So glad you got through the hurt... to understand those people were in your life for the wrong reasons. Yaaay you! 💪👍
Fancy Forest, people who have suffered interior trauma from narc abuse may retreat back into their shell, yes. Because this is a part of their way to heal. They know solo best, it's not about you. They can feel overwhelmed ...when they are ready they will reach out to others again. Just be supportive and help them heal.
Wow, this describes my life completely. After 45 years of marriage, I finally started to question my husband’s behaviour a couple of years ago. The same pattern was with his father who treated his wife with emotionally, financially and physically abuse. Narcissistic was not a word 30/40 yrs ago. I have done the TEST many times after my husband would have a angry tantrum or sulk if I dared to question his behaviour. If ever I need something, I would have to either “ WAIT- FIGHT FOR IT - OR HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF! “ Even no contact is painful because he walks around with a smirk on his face and if I try to approach him after days and days of silence, he just oks at me with an evil look in his eyes. I was brought up on morals and values, I know now, that what my parents taught me, does not exist in a Narcissist. Watching your videos and reading comments brings it home that these people have no empathy at all. Other family members see a happy, funny, helpful person, no one ever sees what see…. So frustrating- I am a survivor like my MIL, god her…..Life is too short to live in these conditions anymore, at 64, I just want to live MY LIFE NOW, not his.
That is so true. I feel like I waisted my life and energy on that marriage for 25 years 😢 I was surprised how many women are going through the same. I wish you all the best and that you can finally be yourself again and enjoy life.
I am not sure of your name sir, but this is the most important information on Narcissism I have ever experienced. You delivered the information in the most professional manner; never mind whether or not a credentialed clinical psychologist. Sigmund Freud was a credentialed clinical psychologist who believed and taught we are all a product of what has happened to us in our lives, however, Carl G. Jung believed and taught that we instead can become what we choose to become. Freud was a "Mature Soul" whereas Jung was an "Old Soul." The excellence in what you have put together here is a "gift to humanity," and you will never be forgotten for it... B.T.W. I was married to one of these creatures for over 3 decades, and raised 4 children from birth to adulthood before I "figured it out." Thank you from my heart to your's...❤️
I left my narc boyfriend and father of my children 6 weeks ago. Hands down the most horrible, depressing, messiest and confusing time of my life . I know he is a narcissist and I’ve known for a while but the thoughts always arise of if i did the right thing to leave. This video is so validating. Thank you Richard. You once again reminded me that I did the right thing to RUN! And never look back.
Ugh...I am in the same situation...but unfortunately have no means to leave! He makes all the money...good money! And I'm so torn between leaving the life that I love or thought I did...i just cannot wind up in a womens shelter with my daughter! ( if that makes sense?)
@marce G are you safe? If you are safe and you can’t get away right now, look into grey rocking. Its where you put up emotional armour they can’t get through. It’s difficult to do but sometimes you have no choice. I managed it for a decade until my kids were older.
get out and stay out get your life back feeling so sorry you had to put up with that for so long wish you all the very best please keep strong and and don't look back you deserve to be happy start doing what you want for the rest of your life love
I was married to a "narc" for 30 years. As an empathic individual, over time I found myself victimized and believing I was insane. However, three years ago I began a journey of empowerment and self-worth and began to say "NO". I stopped feeding my husbands ego and need to be right. I would not allow him to twist his words around in an attempt to blame me. I began to take back my power...and that infuriated him. I did not absorb his emotional outbursts nor did I continue to look the other way when, for example, I knew he was lying about having an affair. I was ready to leave and felt confident in my decision...and then we both got COVID and he eventually died from complications due to pneumonia that developed. I was stunned and most certainly heartbroken over this loss...at the same time, for the first time in a long time, I felt free from the misery he instilled on me with his narcissistic ways. I feel guilty for feeling this way, indeed...and also fearful that I might once again be subject to narcissism to the point that I am pushing anyone and everyone away who expresses an interest in me. Your video really inspired me and gave me hope on how to recognize and combat the narcissistic personality by simply listing my values and sticking to them. Staying true to myself and using the "checks and balances" of my values to help gauge my surroundings, feelings, and integrity is indeed a helpful tool. Thank you for your video. It truly inspired me.
Please do not feel guilty for these thoughts or feelings. I understand completely!! You can mourn your loss of course, but also are allowed to feel relief that the abuse you endured has finally ended for good! (You probably would not feel that if he just left/broke up). Feel peace & joy knowing it will never return. 🙏 Find solace in knowing his own internal misery is over as well. Your feelings are valid & justified💖 Please take all the time u need to heal, then go love YOUR new life 🙌
@@jackie7796 are they dangerous? many are, yes If not all, to some degree of risk. some of them are very very dangerous some of them will set out to destroy your life at the mere suggestion that you would want to leave or do not want to be with them Some of them will go to extreme measures of all kinds (financial, lies/smear campaigns, or violence) rather than "be discarded" by you - which is how they will see it if you want to steer clear of them (although not consciously aware of any of that, they'll just react), because they habitually discard people without a thought, as if they are useless objects The smart ones who have found success in life and/or are good looking and/or have gained some power in the world tend to be more dangerous. They may hide it well but will feel enraged by your desire to leave rather than them getting away with using you as long as they want and discarding you when they feel like it. And they will *punish* you, with a tenacity and contempt that is appalling. And they will find any extra and new way to abuse and hurt you that they can, and/or *undermine your actual ability to leave* if they can. The dumber ones who may have less power of various kinds can still make real trouble for you- nothing insults them like being confronted with the fact that you are not impressed and do not want to be there. And they too will find any extra and new way to abuse and hurt you that they can, and/or *undermine your actual ability to leave* if they can.
@@jackie7796 why do you think it’s such a trope for women to file false legal accusations against men, get violent, etc. if they try to leave, and correspondingly for men to beat or stalk women, lock them in abusive legal messes, etc?
Junk values, that is a great expression. Recently realized that a boundary I set with my fiance (now ex) which she decided to cross all the time; the boundary was based on a great value - respect. She inserted her junk values into her reasoning for crossing the boundary (flirting with men in front of my eyes) and said that is acceptable behavior because she is attractive and I should be grateful. So glad to see this video and learn about junk values, because that explanation of hers is total junk.
Junk values of my ex believes it's only cheating when you're married. If you're dating, she feels cheating only happens when penis inserts into the vagina. All other sex acts are considered genuine consensual acts between " friends " and shouldnt create feelings of betrayal. She is Insane.
You helped me save my own life! I had exactly what you're explaining happening to me. For 3 years I was with a woman with whom I thought was the girl of my dreams. Once we moved in together I quickly realized she was actually the girl of my nightmares. But I held on and kept trying to make it work. Bending to her whim at all costs. Listing to her entitled demands and outlandish expectations. Dealing with her childish fits. The entire time I was being gaslighted, I felt like I was the problem. About a year ago I listened to your speech about the female narcissist. It blew me away. And I listened to it until I could memorize it. Further down the road you talked about saying "no" and testing for NPD. So I started testing her by saying "no". She exploded sulking or even raging with infantile reactions that dragged on for days sometimes. It was sickening. Then from further suggestion from your videos, I started a strong morning routine of structured journaling, yoga, breath work and meditation. I started to feel human again. I started to feel like I had control of my life. Eventually I left her, it was hard, I went back a couple times, Finally I went "no contact" and it worked! Even though I still grieve from time to time. I feel like I'm free. Free from abuse, free from her ridiculous expectations, and I'm finding myself again. I'm feeling independent and strong. I'm a new person. My friends see it, my community is growing and I feel love all around me. When I was with her, I was isolated, a shell of a human on the brink of suicide. Richard Grannon, your videos helped me so much. I can't thank you enough. My life is so much better having had you guide me through all of this. Keep up the great work! I see what you're seeing in society, and I agree with your philosophies almost all the time. I'm a fan for life. I'll keep checking in, and I'll keep protecting myself from abuse and the sick individuals that are lost in a sea of their own pain. SPARTIN FOR LIFE! I even got your logo tattooed on my hand to remind me of my accomplishments! Big Love bother!
Good for you! When you move in with them, the abuse really intensifies and you can't get away from them. She was pushing me to move in within the year, so lucky that didn't happen. Walking on eggshells is brutal. The disproportionate rage attack tantrums over minor things are shocking.
@@SoccerPhoto The first major step is becoming enlightened to emotional abuse and narcissism. I'd recommend going to therapy, make sure you figure the "why," why did you let this person in and why did you stay so long. I made that mistake of not understanding the why after my marriage to my abusive ex-wife and ended up with another abusive women who was a complete mental case. Good luck! You got this!
@@kennethsilvestri5874 I totally agree about the why, it's not always that obvious and can require a lot of thought and reflection, but so important to know so that you don't remain vulnerable to people who will take advantage.
I know you're probably fed up with narcissists Richard, but thank you for all the resources. They helped me put my life back together when I crept out of a 20 year marriage, barely alive.
Hey Cor B! I know the feeling -- I left a similar marriage after 26 years. Only after I was gone was I able to better see just how badly I had let her abuse me. It took a while to rebuild my life and my self image but I eventually met a wonderful woman (who had been mistreated by her first spouse as well) and we have both been stunningly happy with each other for over twenty years now. Stay strong, stay optimistic! Your best years are in front of you now!
I’m sorry you all went through such sadness and hardships but I think you for sharing because it helps people like me to not feel like such a failure and stupid. I’m not the only one and your voice and sharing saves others
How many women have told their husband no and was given the silent treatment for it? That's the first "no" that needs to be tested long before you wear the ring. Long before.
And don’t become intimate with anyone until you’ve run tests. Do not do it. And for the love of God do not bring a child into this & then later claim, “But I didn’t know! They deceived me!” You did not do your due diligence.
I was friends with a co-worker who revealed she was dealing with a particularly difficult relationship, and it was becoming increasingly more volatile, until it reached the point where she needed to get out. I helped her to remove herself safely from the situation by taking her back the apartment they shared, after work, while he was gone. It was very scary because she had already told me he was becoming increasingly hostile and abusive toward her, and she was visibly nervous about him showing up and discovering her plan to leave, while we were there. She had already loaded her car that morning, after he left for work and had me take her back to the apartment to drop the keys off, after her shift was over. She would be leaving town from there, and didn't want to take a chance of him coming home early to find out (and show up at her work), until she was across the state line. We pulled it off without a hitch, she made it safely to her parents, and successfully went on to live a very healthy restored life. It was after she moved that that she started an online support group about narcissism, and invited me to join. That was when I learned that I was so busy helping her with her situation, that I didn't realize that I was totally ignoring my own problems. I even remember making a point TO NOT TELL my husband what I was doing, this whole time, because I knew he wouldn't support my efforts. By the time I got home, albeit a little later than usual, he had already gone to the bedroom and didn't even come out to find out what I was doing. I fixed dinner which he didn't even acknowledge, and we went to bed in our separate rooms. When I started seeing the links to counseling for narc abuse, that's when I learned what narcissism is and the lightbulb came on. I am 2 years free of my abusive situation and am very grateful for all the help I've received since my "awakening" from the lie I had been living with for 19 years.
I know your story all to well. It's odd how open and gregarious I am, but there's this other side of me that just refuses to see or speak. I can be such an open book and you'll never know me, I have no idea how I do it. I keep wondering what's going on that I've walked away, like yourself, but I still seek something more to know and want to understand, but I have no idea what it is that calls me. I'm glad you left your situation. I bet he's still scratching his head because he can't figure out why you left.
"Don't let them lead". On our first holiday a few weeks into our relationship, my narc-ex asked me to give him my passport. I innocently said no and that I'd look after it myself. He smirked and accused me of being controlling! I defended myself and wanted to prove I wasn't controlling, so I offered him my passport, which he then declined (I know, I know). So many red flags and signs right there. I knew it was odd but at that point, I had absolutely no idea what I was dealing with. I escaped two years later in the middle of a silent treatment. Lessons learned. Tests, accusations, controlling, projection. Do not ignore or make excuses for red flags.
I lived with a covert vulnerable narcissist for 27 years. I have only just realised he is a narcissist. I kept all his emails, divorce papers, texts etc . I found them and started reading them again. OMG I get it now! Richard your work is priceless! Thank you soooo soooo much. If I said no to my vulnerable narc or disagreed with him he would laugh at me, ridicule me and tell me I was mentally deranged and beyond hope. He never showed any overt anger.
My heart goes out to you Veronica. My sister in law is in one too and has me fooled for 30 years despite warnings I felt sorry for her then she turned on me with such hatred it almost took me to suicide. She manipulated my entire family to the point I then apologised which has only intensified the smear campaign. No contact with entire family for two years
This laughing is worse than the literal rage that some do. At the end I saw it was a mocking trying to set me off thing and it worked sometimes. This is called REACTIVE ABUSE,. The ultimate gaslighting blame shift.. next thing you know, the issue becomes your reaction instead of what they were not taking responsibility for in the first place!
@@Adam-xs3ng It's all about control (after their mask comes off) to narcissist types, I've come to learn. Your advances in life were too much of a threat to her
@@AZDC99 - Yes, they are so good & practiced at so many forms of abuse. They (Narcs) make me sick & at times, I still get angry with myself for not seeing what he was & what was going on. We both worked 6+ days per week (self-employed) and until I stopped - I never had time to research & start learning about Narcassism. Once you do start to learn, it's like seeing something you wish you hadn't - you can't unsee it. I am working on my Exit Plan & will finally be free in 1 yr. Can't wait to reclaim myself. Hugs & strength to all who are here.
@@Adam-xs3ng - re: your control comment - yes, totally about control. Also, I find that they are very defensive, as in ridiculously defensive. They never truly loved us, they just want our qualities, those they admire yet lack in themselves. Eventually, they end up despising us because they can't ever have, develop or emulate those same qualities. Such sick people & I can't wait to be free.
My clue was, after having an avoidable car accident when I was overly stressed, this person said, "When I heard about your accident, I just laughed and laughed and laughed! I thought it was the funniest thing I ever heard!" One of the many hurtful things this person has said/done. When confronted, this person will "not remember" or threaten a medical emergency....My solution is that I don't see this person anymore. I won't be around them for any reason.
I’m so very grateful for this mans wisdom. To think of the pain he has had to endure to gather this information is heartbreaking but it’s miraculous how many he has helpedheal because of that pain. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for your thorough follow up and work. Your message and teaching is amazingly helpful , practical , hard core realistic and simple to follow. Much thanks again Richard.💚
I was just feeling my gratitude here too. 4 years ago I pulled myself out of an 11yr mess by what I learned from Richard. Sometimes I come back to listen to his new videos to remind myself how far I have come. 🙏
Me too. It's been some time for me as well, from EVERY angle. It sucks, however, we are going to get through this. Hang in there sweetheart, remember, WE ARE STRONG, WE ARE A COMMUNITY, WE ARE SPARTANS!!!!!!💪💪💪💪😍😘😍😘😎😎😎😎
@@marahmoonflower7926 Marah, I know it hurts. This is growing pains, an adjustment so to speak. We are ALL adjusting. Be thankful we got the boss in our corner. We have all been brought together for a reason. You are beautiful, important, significant, and these attributes cannot nor will NOT be taken away from you darlin, step forward, WE ARE SPARTANS!!!!!!! AND WE ROCK😍😍😍😍
The best advice I have ever in my life received from my very very best friends! (Which I did not listen to for 4 years!) "When they Show and Tell you who They Are.. BELIEVE Them!"
I was with a female narcissist for 6 years. At first, I had a fragile ego and felt inadequate with relationships because up to that point my longest relationship was 6 months. I saw the red flags but convinced myself that relationships naturally have problems, and they do, but not like when you're dealing with a narcissist. ironically, this experience led to me becoming more confident. It started when I moved to another state to be with her. I got a job that scared me and I lacked confidence in my abilities. As I got better at my job, I realized it was no different than any other job and I started asking myself what can I do to be happy? what can I do for me? what do I want? Why should I be the one to compromise in my relationship ALL THE TIME? As I got more confident in my relationship I naturally did the things mentioned in this video bc what I initially thought were cute quirky personality flaws, women like to tell men what to change etc etc... became more like issues with reality as time went on, or, in other words I was waking up to reality. The more confident I became, the more lost in another world my partner became. The gaslighting and distortion of reality is what pissed me off to the point of leaving. It was the increased controlling behaviors that pushed me to my freedom. Rich gives good advice here. I did what he recommended and man, like I couldn't say no bc it turned into a freaking 2hour to 2 day ordeal of fighting and watching her cry... be careful though, like he said, bc doing the test to see the response can be dangerous, but you have to look at your situation and make that determination. Life is short, do you really want to spend it settling for unhappiness? It's been a year since I left my situation. I am about to go after some hobbies that I've put off for years. I'm about to change jobs and go after a higher paying job which I will get. I haven't dated, not bc I'm scared, but bc I'm drained, emotionally and physically, not so much now. I definitely won't settle for the illusion of happiness anymore. I started talking to a lot of women, and I listen to the red flags now. I'm comfortable being alone, it's ok. Listen to this guy. He knows his shit. He's lived it too. good luck to everyone.
I've been leaving toxic relationships since I was 15 yrs old. Happier alone, with my daughter, 8 cats & a wee Yorkie lol 😂. Was watching Johnny Depp trial when I chanced upon your Narcissistic video. I use to be a RN (MANY AREAS) yet this wasn't a topic taught to me 1983-85. You've re-educated me. My Narcissists were men but also some female family members. I just didn't know about it at the time.. Thanx
I've felt like I am the problem 😕 you know we are always discussing how to make me better ,and truthful I'm miserable always working on me instead of working together!
When i was with my husband, i did tell him no, and I did mirror him, because after 5 years of him steadily upping the abuse I just did it naturally. Finally got the COURAGE to leave. That is what it takes..facing your fears, Richard Grannon is absolutely correct. I am afraid to be alone, i do not like it...but here i am and i feel much more calm. Watch more of Richard's videos and also w/ Sam Vaknin. Truly insightful.
Watching again. I left him 4 days ago. The HOOVERING is real. Ironically in my room 101 is my deep empathy for him, my understanding of how he is the architect of his own demise and where it stems from. I also fear the hoovering, knowing that I'm all he has in the world. We could be SO good together, but the gaslighting, rage fits, all te rest became too much. I left him before, end of August last year and he changed so much for the better, or so it seemed... I doubted if he was really a Narcisist and has since learned about the different types. For 3 months it went very well with "only" one or two incidents. The total relapse from early Dec. I tried to keep my boundaries in place and detached emotionally. I certainly had to put the brakes on the finances, although he expected less this time round. He even did things for me he would not before. The red flag I chose to ignore when slowly getting back with him was his minimising of the issues as I brought it up. Now he tells me he loves me and seems truly defeated. Probably an act to lure me right back in? Who knows...
That's my Room 101 too. I see the person HE COULD'VE BEEN and I see what happened to cause it. I remember the times when masks were off and we just had fun together. That's what's causing me so much pain
@@hellothere98765 thank you. I really appreciate you reaching out. 8 months later and I'm still involved in his life. However, I'm stronger, more empowered and ready to walk away for good at the drop of a dime. I've come to realise that it is anxiety around abandoning another that has kept me stuck, and because he has literally got no one else in his life. It is hard but I'm getting there, slowly but certainly. It's going to happen soon. Thank you for the significant wishes to me. Liberation is the key.
This is such a powerful and simplified way of keeping hold of what's left of "you" and beginning to refocus and regenerate your energy despite your current condition. Thank you Richard!
Powerful and simplified way! Spot on. And his choice of words at the opening was so perfectly told like a symphonic poem without mincing words. Well thought and put together. This needs to be passed on in my opinion
Yes, be on guard when you say no. I kindly told my father no and his reaction was very verbally violent. I developed PTSD from the experience. So, be prepared for anything!
My first date with the love of my life showed she wasn't the one but I was smitten with her beauty. She asked me a time to see her on the first date. I said 5pm. She blow up and said " Thats too late, forget it I don't want to go". I was like WTF? I told her fine I'll go about my day....we made a compromise and went on her terms but I was shocked when she heard something she didn't like. I never had that happen. Plus, she was so beautiful I didn't want to ruin the opportunity so I tossed the rules out the window to get her to except me. Im insecure around beautiful girls so it was the only chance at "model status" I was gonna have.I see why she couldn't keep a man. They all RAN because after that, nothing went smooth. It was hell. Beauty on the outside doesn't make beauty on the inside.
Yeah buddy that means you already know what you're dealing with because you've already done it. It's nice to have insight and advice but sometimes experience and intuition tells you what you need to know.
Until around five years ago, I had no idea how I’ve been in these kinds of situations my whole life. By many different people, and many different intensities. Everything in my life had to crash to see how I’d been exposed to, and how I had aided in their awful treatment. Standing for your core truth really is the only way for me to break the chain. I still battle some family members, because of the long repeated cycle. I have boundaries with them, and NO is the most effective deterrent.💯
I’ve been following Richard for over 4 years. He’s led me out of the darkness and into the light, after I was raised in a horribly abusive Narcissistic household, then married an abusive Narcissist. Thank God, I have broken free of Narcissism and am able to now have a glorious, normal and happy life.
i left the "dead soul" with NPD 5 years ago. I used it as a stepping stone to set tough boundaries. To be consistent with own values, this scheme can be applied to anyone even without disorders.
With regard to saying "no", my personal experience has been with an extremely passive-aggressive Narcissist. She was actually my foster daughter, age 17 and was ticking all of the boxes. It was so difficult to see at first as she actually appears humble, quiet and fragile and is never visibly disagreeable. What I would find later was that the "no" resulted in passive-aggressive revenge: hurting my dog, letting the dog's lead go in the middle of heavy traffic, breaking my laptop screen and countless phone screens and eventually, she actually wiped her bum on my facecloth and urinated on my toothbrush. Her revenge was served cold as she would give no indication of being upset about the "no" - but then bide her time for revenge. Because of this it was extremely confusing and took a long time to identify. When I finally ended the placement (after she did this to me over and over again) she made false allegations and even though she has a documented history of making false allegations, professionals believed her and painted me as the evil foster parent who had no understanding that these young people come with issues. It felt so unfair but unfortunately it's pretty typical - you get a second punch in the gut later when they trash talk you to everyone who will listen. Either way, I have my life and my sanity back, my home is filled with peace and my dog is happy.
This sounds like my mother and I don't have any of those traits for the actual voiceless of this act are always the best one to do better is the only revenge
The grief is profound when the narc is your adult child. 30+ years of attempting to make myself into the mother I thought she deserved. I’m 72yo and have decided to go no contact. The emotions are so complicated. Painfully sad and liberating at the same time. Thank you once again Richard. I have your book and am part of the Unleash group. ♥️
Oh my goodness! I’ve been searching about this personality disorder for months now and have never found a parent that is dealing w/a child that is a narc. And am so happy I came across your post! I, too, have a child, my son, that is a narc. And I am stuck living w/him this year because my ex, his father, died last year and my family insisted I needed to help him. Now i am living a nightmare? I have had 2 black eyes in the last year because he is abusive, but never was physically before!? Everyday is a struggle to survive and the guilt I feel about leaving him is as painful? I’ve decided I have to leave to survive but don’t know how to take the 1st step? I have 2 other children I don’t even see because of him. My other son begs me to leave but offers me no help i think he is scared of him, too? How do you do it? Do you get outside help w/your feelings of staying no contact? I am desperate and don’t know where to start w/this process and feel bad because he loved his Dad and he is grieving. I have this thought, if I as his mother doesn’t help him who will? Isn’t it my responsibility to support him? Thanks for posting!
If you are 65 or older contact elder abuse hotline in your area immediately. They can help. You are being abused and need assistance to stop it now. I know I’ve been there.
Thank you Mary C., however, I am only 55yrs old? I did have a talk w/my mom and she is turning 80, but a young 80, she lost the only man she ever loved last year, my father. So, she invited me to come and stay w/her until I can get settled! This has made such a difference in my stress & anxiety because I hate to ask & be a burden on people because I am very independent. Bottom line I don’t have to put up w/this behavior for much longer!? That you for your thoughtful reply!
"If you have to let them lead you have to let them lead as little as possible. Take as much control in your life. Because they'll put you in a receptive position they'll cause you to wait they'll cause to feel like you have to wait for them to make the decisions. Don't. YOU move your own life forward now" taking this to heart.
"Let your hope die" is the most freeing sentence I've heard this year. I felt her dying for some time now, but I was afraid of what I realized a long time ago. I just didn't want to admit to it. It's time to let go and face my fears. Thank you.
@@deborahwarren1705 you did what you had to do. You are a SURVIVOR. So, congratulations. I know it was hard, but you did what had to be done. It took strength most cannot fathom, much less carry within. Hence, no one can ever hurt you again. Not like this. And there is NOTHING you cannot overcome. You know that now, so relish in it. Rejoice. 🥂
"You are not to them what you think you are." - this helps so much; I now realise I am not, to my younger brother, the best elder brother I have always tried to be. After years of accepting & making excuses on his behalf, and finding excuses for his behaviour when he upset my parents or me, his last episode has finally made me see the light - he has serious issues. And I need to pull back. It's terribly sad to accept that we'll never have the brotherly love I always strived for. But now, finally, I can let the healing begin. Thank you so much for this video. ❤️💪🏼
“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Isaiah 5:20
At an absolute crossroads with these narcs. I've made up my mind to go no contact, but first I must survive a week with them. Using all I can from 20 years of therapy and figuring myself out, all I keep hearing in my mind is "Abandon sincerity with the insincere," this is my mantra. I've had a taste of freedom and living my life without anyone controlling it, and I'm addicted. Thanks Richard for years of verbal drills, I think it's really helping!
It helps me hear you say that you’ve been there multiple times bc that is part of what I beat myself up for. I grew up in a N home and married one then left then dated them. Now I’m trying to. Hold the courage to face the door 101 and I’m so scared. But I need to do this. I just don’t know if I can trust myself. So the list will help. And the “always do better the more courageous you are” helps. Thanks. I listen to lots of your videos. I’m exhausted and want a new life.
Yesss you can! Open the door. The horror will be there. It's going to be shocking but it gives you the strength to leave forever. I did it. It was hard. It hurt very much and I grieved over one year but now I live in peace and my freedom is worth it. Wish you luck and please be sure you can go where you are safe! Narcs don't accept to loose a game so quickly and if you were his main supply he will do anything to get you back, stalking, future promising,..etc., don't believe him. He knows your caring side. Keep safe 🙏🏻🩷
“Don’t let them lead.” That’s it right there. Being divorced, I’m still waiting for responses on his time with the kids and so forth. He still has power. And he wields it. This is brilliant. Thank you.
Good luck to you. Please don't hesitate to state what you want & need, that can make all the difference. Sometimes that is all it takes. No matter what they say or how they behave, state your facts. No matter how loud they get, state what you need.
@@kimgordon3695 - Yeah. And they try n 'Keep you a Kid' !!! When it is THEM that are !?!?! When it is needed - BE the PARENT, especially if you know that they have / had Narc. parents. ;) I did.
The hardest most painful aspect of this for me is that I loved these men who looked at me as a thing, an object, a faceless servant. Extreme entitlement and manipulation, lying, is what they all had in common.
Yes!! 4 days spent “hiding” in the spare bedroom (coming out to eat, etc) after he went to bed - because I was receiving the silent treatment for daring to say no (nicely) to a second round of physical intimacy within a couple of hours.
My mother had NPD. I discovered it 7 years ago, I was 52 at the time. Until that moment I lived like Helen Keller, lost in darkness, not understanding anything. Poisoned.I had a few friendships and relationships with narcs. A life of pain. I inflicted pain too because of it. She died this year , I had no more contact. But being the scapegoat I have been rejected , denied, disowned by father & brother. The healing is long and hard. I owe you for my progress, and to Sam, and a couple more. Thank you so much.
God bless you. I know exactly how you feel. My hope is endless in them changing and I can’t accept that they will not. Not yet ... anyway. Thank God I am learning more and more from this channel. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@callonthenameofjesus1459 Wow, this is me, sis. I am already severely disabled because of what they have done to me + curses done over me to kill me but i still just naive and can't stop looking for the good/hope in such ppl. Praise Christ He's faithful and loving and very patient with me also. I'm learning. God bless. Shalom from Germany.
@Nathalie Dufour Please cry out to the Lord Jesus Christ. You don't have to do this alone. Let Him love and heal you, child. You're so precious to God you will never be able to fully comprehend. Let Him bind Up your wounds. There is a Living Hope for all the victims of narcissistic abuse and even for the narcissists. God bless you. May you experience the wonderful peace that only Christ can give and surpasses all understanding.
I am here listening because I have seen my spouse literally put effort into becoming a blossoming narcissist. Teaching himself to feel nothing in regard to the constant pain that he intentionally puts & leaves me in. He has been so devastatingly horrible that he can never make up to me all of the horrors that he has inflicted.
Am a 67 year old man and I’ve been dealing with someone like this for 24 years now with a 16 year old boy in the middle and hopefully near the end of a financially devastating divorce. The good parts are that with only calmness and the help of a recording device (certainly not family counseling) the boy and I were able to stay in our home until the place sold. People in the Cluster B spectrum are evil 😈 and this one could put on quite a show. Out of 6 different counselors, only 2 were quick enough to catch the games and they “didn’t know a damn thing” so back to square one. The Merry go Round will never stop until you pull the plug. When you love someone, it’s unbelievable how much punishment you will endure. The hardest part is realizing it wasn’t love with them. Still my biggest concern is my son who also endured being beaten down with emotional abuse and is still struggling (thanks to court ordered counseling) with setting boundaries. Be brave. Even if you lost the battle, you can win the war. The cost of Freedom has never been too great and that will never change.
I walked away from 9 properties when my narc went fake “bankrupt”. My parents paid for my divorce lawyer who told me to get both of us to agree not to claim off each others’ parents’ estates should they die: I would win a secondary claim of “our” money going in to his mother’s account, but it would take years and cost squillions. I’m still angry that I’m nearly 50, am renting, and own nothing, but I guess I have my health, parents & siblings, and FREEDOM.
I got out early fortunately, but has she not had a miscarriage, like you I would have stayed for the sake of the child. It was difficult leaving but I had to do it.
I LOVE your statement that the "cost of freedom was (is) never too great". Exactly! But something I will now use as a personal mantra and advice to others.
Its never too late to leave and you did the right thing for you and your son by leaving the relationship. The merry go around analogy and lack of boundaries is so true. I was a third party to a narcissistic relationship and got sucked in eventually. I was a partner to someone who co parented with a narcissist. In the beginning I let her deal with it and just supported and pointed a few things out. Eventually the conversations got more involved as the abuse/manipulation got worse. There would be an apology by the narcissist, good behavior for a little while then back to the manipulation. She would vent to me and I would try to remind her of the cycle of abuse she was in but I dont think it fully stuck. She admitted she was always conflicted in her decisions but didn't know why. It seems really difficult to disentangle everything when you cant go no contact due to kids.
I joined a Narcissist support group, but this feels so much better coming from a strong male vs a soft feminine therapist. I feel stronger watching you
If nothing else, i am grateful to my abuser for giving me an opportunity to become another strong male victim, and i will not be quiet about it. I will exhibit healing, and in some way hopefully inspire my quiet, agonized brothers to do the same.
Richard I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown not long ago because of my events entirely out of my control and I was scared. I was able to log back in and listen to your audios and I thank God♥️♥️♥️♥️ As difficult as any of us may be I hope you know how much you help so many in ways you and others could truly never know 🙏🏼
I spent 18 years in an emotionally abusive relationship. Then jumped into a 4 year one after that. Each getting worse as I went. I became very self aware and took 4 years to heal and move on. Currently in a 10 month relationship and discerning between triggers from trauma and actual narcissistic traits in the new guy. I hate that I’m dealing with it again but I now have the love and respect for myself that trumps all. I’ve been gracious and given chances hoping he would change his behavior. We promised in the beginning to each other that we had both been hurt so we would communicate everything. Well, when I express something that is bothering me or call him out on things he is doing that hurt me, he flies off the handle. I approach him in the most loving way and do my best to not come across as attacking him or accusing him. I still get screamed over, gaslighted, accused of being a child. I’ve been broken down in 10 months. He’s on his way out. Thank you for this video 💕
My partner (parasite) does the same. Raising/discussing ANYTHING with him sends him into full blown defensive mode and he clutches at pathetic straws to turn things,,, back on me. I have tried many different approaches, always to get the same outcome. Nothing ever gets resolved. Like Richard said, you can't think your way out of this. I think i have seen enough and will believe the behaviour that has been shown.
What helps me NOT to choose another narcissist,I make sure I write a list of what I DON'T WANT and stick to it,not excuse or explain other people's mistreatments of me.For example saying well they are probably not having a good day today,or maybe they didn't have enough sleep,etc...I take people at their face value and try not to see in others what they're not.If i don't see it now,it isn't there in the first place.Majority of times,our instinct or intuition tell us something is wrong with a person!I don't second guess myself anymore.If something is off,well best believe something is really off.Even during the love bombing stage,I knew something was off about the narcissist in my life.I ignored it 😒
@@lunadust8017 my favourite distraction/redirection from my ex was... if you hadn't opened the drawer, you wouldn't have seen the letter my newly discarded gf wrote in which you learned I'd been seeing her all along. Unbelievable.
@@mandyl7071 That`s what the mother of my ex-fiance told me after I had found he had cheated on me with his from another man highly pregnant ex and several other women and I went no contact from the second I knew all that had transpired behind my back. All the time I was suspicious he told me I was suffering from BPD and schizophrenia and needed to get treatment. Her would give me the silent treatment for weeks when I dared to aske questions. He tried everything to get in contact with me telling I was making this up to back out of marriage, those chicks were lying, his ex was a lying whore, then he said that a hole was a hole and I was one as well, so why bother if he used other holes, too - I never told him I had hacked his email account and his landlord living next door had told me that different women were stying there over night when I wasn`t around. "If you keep digging for shit, you`ll find shit. So why do you keep digging? Be glad he still wants to marry you." that was the message his mother left on voicemail. I had my number changed and prevented them from contacting me. It took me several years to get over that betrayal but I was glad I had found the strength to not let him pull me in again.
I found the answers after a 22 year entanglement with a narcissist. I sometimes think ive watched every video and read every article on how best to deal with this awful situation. Im very much closer to the other side at this point. This video, in my opinion is far and away the best I've watched. Richard's points and suggestions are 100% spot on. Having lived through the torture and recovery i can say for sure this video says it all in a nutshell. Take your power back! Well done Richard. Youve been a huge help to me. Thank uou!
I spent 5 years searching for videos about "how to work with a micromanager", "toxic boss", etc. And then RUclips's algorithm recommended videos about Narcissism, and now I'm getting videos on Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder and comorbidities like Narcissism. The first things I noticed were the aloof entitlement to overstepping boundaries, micromanagement, being critical of work to the point that causes systemic inefficiency, and blame-shifting those inefficiencies to clients and colleagues. Examples in include calling me in class to criticize me for not granularly checking in before and after every class even though the class was approved by him and at the exact same time every day, taking a laptop stand out of my hands to show me how to adjust it properly, looking over my shoulder as I was focused in deep work to tell me I'm doing things wrong, and not delegating projects to me until they are over a year old and the client is all but begging, and then blaming everyone but themselves for not completing the project faster. What it makes me do? I learned about Grey Rocking and put as much distance between me and them as possible. I benignly say "Ok", "Sounds Good", "Understood" to basically everything and I never ask questions because it seems to upset them. I play dumb. I make boring excuses to travel separately, lunch separately, hotel separately, etc. I try to stop ruminating on any of it, and focus my energy on what I know is the right thing to do for my job and my life, like getting back in school and keeping it secret. I am in therapy, on meds, applying for other jobs, and secretly living my productively enjoyable life again. I don't mirror them. Most of what they have is OCPD and the narcissism is part of their coping mechanism. I don't care about them. My motto right now is Churn & Earn... to just get shit done, and turn it off at 5pm and get on with life. Save money, eat healthy, get exercise, love life, and leave them to their own suffering.
100% spot on!!! Thank You. Great Work!! I have learnt to take control by withdrawing my emotions from them. They can no longer take from me or lead... this is my life and I will no longer play the game. Due to my siblings and extended family, I keep peace, but I give nothing of me anymore. It may look like it to others, but THEY know I am no longer emotionally giving anything of my true self anymore.
After two years of watching Richards' videos, this one has probably been the most important one to me since his "Your family hates you" video I watched at the beginning of my revelation. Cheers.
The term "narcissist" was not even on my vocabulary until I noticed some patterns of behaviour in family close relationships and started looking up. Thanks to you I have now not only got over the trauma but I can see they're petty games and "stick it" to them
I learned. I didn't let them lead. And the lie I could have walked into and would not have been able to walk out of. Became apparent. I am in opposite land and have been years. I am broken For people who thought I was something that doesn't exist And we never needed fixing
Had a major fallout with my mother that caused me to mentally breakdown. I sought therapy and my therapist is the one who told me my mother was a covert narcissist...and I mever knew that was a thing. I appreciate your videos as they really helped me heal, along with therapy. Its been a year and i feel like a brand new person, now, and life is so much better. So very grateful for you. Thank you.
Thank you, Richard. Radical acceptance of “what is behind door 101?” has taken me from allowing myself to WAIT for the ex to change, toward loving myself and my values enough to LEAVE. Having empathy for the life these individuals lead does not mean that we stay with them. To me, they are a different “species” of human. They look and talk and do many of the things that we “humans” do, but their cruelty and lack of empathy for anyone but themselves makes them seem EVIL. I’d like to think that we, who have dealt with these individuals, are diametrically opposite to them in nature. We are LIVE! Blessings!
Dear Richard - Thank you for this advice. I want to say that I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself : but then I look at my life situations and realize - how I probably need to be reminded every 3- 5 days for the rest of my life. 🤔☺️👀 Many thanks Richard - for being steadfast & repetitive. And I mean that with full respect & sincerity. Your friend - in NYC. ☕️
I’ve listened to this a Couple times just to really get it. I’ve spent the past 4 years trying to rewire my mind and heart and default my emotional system after being raised by narcissistic family to only jump into narcissistic relationships. I’ve hardly dated in 11 years after a massively abusive relationship that almost cost me my children. No one needs a man/father that bad. After years of isolating, I’m finally understanding what I did wrong. I am in love with potential. I have huge dreams and standards and I am dumbfounded when it falls so far from the mark. I need to stop expecting so much of myself and others as a way to make up for the abuse of a lifelong journey of never being good enough. I’ve been turning the cycle onto myself and others and being alone to avoid disappointment isn’t the answer to not being abused by another narcissist. Maybe I can learn to be more forgiving of myself, stop expecting super human outcomes from my efforts and try loving myself again…. Before I manifest more reflections of my self hatred. Truly, we let people treat us the way we do… we literally show them by the way we treat ourselves. Practicing more self love and self care is now showing me when someone in my life is out if synch. There’s room for understanding, but no more self abuse through the people I allow into my life. Thank you for helping me work all this out. You’re lovely. 🙏🏼💖🌟💖🙏🏼
Ever notice in fulfilling some of your own dreams the gap is filled nearly immediately with more and bigger dreams. So little time we take to credit ourselves of accomplishments most others would envy. And this attracts the narcissists to us, like flies to honey. Only they claim our accomplishments are incidental, not quite up to par, sucks to be us is their general projection - but that's a projection from them about themselves, not you. Take a break and enjoy your accomplishments.
I could have written this. Knocked my breath away for sec reading it. I am really proud of you for all your self reflection and hard HARD work! Keep going! ❤️
This has been incredibly hard to take. I started looking up narcissist because I dated one last year who after 4 months showed his rage. So I was immediately out. My issue is with my twin sister. My Achilles heal. I hadn't recognized alot of her ways for a long time but she was a teen mom and she simply had it harder than I so what do I know. I accommodated her based off my ignorance. This relationship has been the hardest to let go. It seems unnatural even though she's dismissive and untrustworthy to me although I've always been there. I find it impossible to be my true self inside of it because her issues are always so much greater than mine. I heard from Jordan Peterson that if you can't go to your friend's with the good or the bad it's not true friendship. I don't have that luxury. This made me cry and I mean ugly cry. I have created the distance but it kills me that this is what it is. No one talks about a twin that you must let go. It's been a month and the first couple weeks of truly realizing the pathology I couldn't get out of bed for 2 weeks except for work. Completely exhausted. This loss is so major for me and has sparked my anxiety. I have little to no support and I'm doing this on my own. I welcome any positive feedback. It's just been alot for me and I don't want to crumble as I have children who depend on me. I won't crumble because this is not anything new yet I'm perpetually sad as a result. Thanks for reading.
While I cannot imagine the pain of it being a twin, I have had to let go of my sister. It is indescribably painful especially as she and I were allies when very little and comforted each other when my narcissist mother was abusive. I have had to accept that she isn't that little girl anymore, but now turns on me and has gone further down the npd path than I have previously been able to admit to myself. But I have admitted it and I know I can't save her. I can only save myself. You are brave and have my sympathy.
I’m so sorry for what you are experiencing… if it’s any comfort, I too have have a twin who despite me reaching out with love and kindness has just decided I’m dead to her due to her NPD. She exhibits all the signs that Richards speaks of in this video so I have peace knowing it really is not personal tho that’s incredibly hard to really accept. Only you know in your heart of hearts that you have staying loving and did nothing wrong and if that is true, that letting go really is the only way to keep peace for yourself. My door will always be open to her, I’ve accepted however, that most likely it will remain shut by her, not by me. Fill your life with other people who support and love you and lift you up and give you what you deserve which is nothing more then the goodness you give to others. One day at a time, it does get easier.
thank you for being so direct with me!!! I needed to hear this so bad!!!! I'm a mother of an adult covert narcissist, I have to get him out of my home cause of constant abuse and violence to control me, I'm a senior citizen and he was supposed to be helping me!!! God help me be strong and escape this nightmare...
Thank you. I respect your tough love and direct approach. I left a long term narcassistic relationship which left me a zombie and with PTSD. It took 18months to come to the realisation that I was used and manipulated and my values completely disregarded, no matter my attempts to hold them to account. Silent treatment, hang ups, blatant disregards, triangulation.. So many flags... NEVER AGAIN. You have helped me come to terms with the work that I need to do, my part in their sick games and how to get out. I want to help the next victims, but noone will understand, the smear campaign was that good.
Wow! I got more out of this one video than from months of therapy and one session with a coach that was not a good fit. Lovely person, just not right for my needs. Thank you. A great plan of action I needed. God bless you.
Wow, this is really profound Richard. The test makes so much sense because saying no will make a narcissist rage and smiling at them will also make them rage because they despise the sight of happy people. Their limited range of emotions makes them hate happy people feeling the happiness they cannot experience. Also, it is true that getting back at them or exposing them is pointless. It really is not about them. It is all about improving yourself and your own life. Narcissists are deeply obsessed with stopping you from living well for a reason… because the success and flourishing of their victims is like anathema for them.
I’ve found just grey rocking them is best. My brother is a full blown NPD. The less you give them/show the better. No matter if they smear you, try to get a rise out of you, give mundane low-key boring answers and they’ll figure it out. They’ll always try to Hoover you back in and I just grey rock and it works. He’s 36 years old and has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old. One of the most superficial/fake/2 faced people I’ve ever met.
Thank you for mentioning not trying to get back at them. I've heard others talk about how they "get back", but to my mind its a narcissistic trait to be vindictive. I've learned that Karma takes over in her own time so it's important for me to stay on the right side.
This video is a reminder to why I went no contact and why I can’t feel bad. This video reminds me to remember my own values and to keep sticking to them, and for that I want to thank you for making this video.❤️
Learning how to be disingenuous and learning I was actually in a game of chess that I hadn't agreed to were the 2 most important lessons for me. Thank you as always Richard 💜
I've been there. Every word so true. Thanks for this video. After 2 years of no contact, 1000 hours of videos about narcissism, a lot of grieving, intellectually understanding and moving forward with my own life, I couldn't agree more to your explanation.
I love this, Richard…..”anti-values.” I watched innumerable videos by you and others, and finally found this once serendipitously. I cannot tell you how this resonates, and I am proud to say I continue to move forward on MY terms and MY timeline. NO….MORE….BULLSHIT! 👊
The ending exercise is brilliant. So simple but so insightful. Thank you. From experience, the icy-cold narcissistic stare is not just about intimidation - the person is also closely analyzing & studying you. And your interactions with family & others. They're sizing you up - your vulnerabilities & emotional weaknesses. So later they can use them against you. It's very uncomfortable & unsettling when it happens - believe it when you feel it. Don't dismiss it or shake it off as your imagination. It's not. Because if the acquaintanceship still exists in a few weeks or months, your relationships with others, & your life in general, will begin to go awry. Especially if the person has corrupt or criminal intentions - property thievery; money needs to be filled; marriage intentions for purely selfish financial gain & security. This guy is right - you are not a human being to these types. You are merely an object to be used to fulfill their personal needs & wants; financial security. And when/if you can longer provide these things, or outright refuse to do it anymore, they no longer want or need you. And they will likely become hostile & ambivalent towards you as they seek new targets to control. Which can lead to devastating losses for their current victims, including loss of life, under the very worst situations.
@@truth322 Trust your instincts. I don't know your situation but your neighbor may actually have their sights on you or your spouse. But they know your daughter is your "gate keeper". So they have to figure out how to get around her. Or remove her from the picture altogether. Which is what happened to me. I was cut from from my parent's life. And now finding out this person has been spreading horrible lies about me to those who know my parent in order to justify their nasty actions towards me. It's a horrible mess. Keep a close eye on your daughter's behavior & emotional state. And don't let anyone or anything said, heard or implied by this neighbor & others in your circle separate you. These types work from the outside-in.
I love how you are simplifying things for those of us dealing with these types of energies . The part towards the end where we check in with our core values and make sure they are solid seems like something I can do to stay on track With . Thankyou so much for all these moments of pure intention you share with us . Grateful for you 💞
"If you don't insist on your values, then someone will come along and impose their anti-values on you "
I am memorizing that incredible quote
So true
So so true. I'm Christian and I had been wondering how hell is like... until I realised that my marriage is exactly how hell feels like. Hell it not literal fire, but is extreme anxiety, confusion, frustration, disappointment, betrayal, regret, rumination and the like.
Narcissism = wickedness. Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
Isa 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Isa 5:23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
Pro 6:12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth.
Proverbs 6:13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers;
Pro 6:14 Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord.
Pro 6:15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.
Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
YES! My ex didn't manage to instill his awful values in me, but I felt trapped in having to live with his behaviors. This caused me to experience cognitive dissonance...I felt like my whole life was a lie.
Ace! So true!
Telling them no, or just doing what YOU want are the best test, hands down. They will react - be in name calling, gaslighting, yelling, or silent treatment.
Yes the one I was with went mental because I went to the pub.
True!! Happens every time.
Nina don’t forget. They will also smear you behind your back. My NPD brother is smearing me behind my back to my oldest brother (antisocial personality disorder/psychopathy) and has turned him against me. In a way it’s a blessing but you are right. They only know to react. They don’t know how to walk away and leave something alone. They’re toxic and empty emotionally.
I put that shyte on everything 💯.
At a dinner his dad mentioned that his mom gives him (dad) the silent treatment. His discarding was the best thing he could have ever done for me. I avoided a family of narcs.
The behavior that prompted me to start research was:
1. The unusual repetitive behavior patterns I've never seen from another adult
2. The shocking lack of empathy and sudden behavior shift after the love bombing stage
Oh my word. This is EXACTLY what happened to me.
LOL did we date the same person?
Me too
Same here.... I guess we all met the same person.
I didn’t know what I was dealing with and I did not understand why it was happening!
“Have your values, be courageous and stick to them “ thank you
I ended up here because she accused me of being a narcissist. I’ve heard people talk about it but I didn’t really know what it was exactly. So I looked it up, realized she was projecting, and here I am.
That’s good. You can forego any further videos.
Exactly. I said “you’re such a good person” and he responded “thank you for thinking so…”
Same, she called me a Narcissist and I knew nothing about it but the control aspect , I don't try to control people ever. This confused the hell out of me so I started watching videos of Narcissists, my gosh it was like watching a movie about her
Same here buddy, same here. Guessing it was a covert/vulnerable narc?
@@B.D.E. These types of narcissists definitely don't change they get worse as they age.🙄
The best thing about leaving a narcissist is the relief....the relief alone can stop you from re-initiating contact
Omg, yes. You feel a weight lifting off your shoulders!
Absolutely correct
I am 5 months nc with my monster former brother. The brain damage and ruined family relationships continue and healing is not easy. Nc is only step 1. The damage is severe and very hard to overcome.
Lucky you, no relief here whatsoever and it will be almost a year now. Why didn't they teach this in elementary school, i feel so angry right now.
@@djordjemiljenovic9387 i am right there with you. This information will never be taught in schools nor to professional counselors. The reason is we are living in a narc infested world.
In my experience, the first clue is if you sense you're being intentionally triggered. Its the first thing a narcissist does, push your buttons to identify your weaknesses and vulnerabilities to exploit, then the hell begins, a constant game of push you away and pull you back in. There's no fixing it, RUN! and don't look back.
Mine was the lack of empathy
Once the mind games began, I noticed that was normal for her but hell for me. The push and pull, yes and no, hot and cold. I realized it wasn't gonna change because she accepted the chaos as normal. I knew I couldn't fix her so I pulled away more and more...now I'm a lousy son of bitch by her and her family. I should be happy, but I miss certain things about her.
Using some vulnerable secret or fear you have and then they use it against you. Run like h ell.
I am very sensitive and have an anxiety disorder and worry. My sister-in-law has studied this in me to escalate her attacks. She ridicules me, gaslights me, and loses her temper.
@@llb6234 That's horrible. Sorry you deal with her.
I have an old saying… I’d rather have the cold truth, then a warm lie.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, I’ve been in denial for way too long.
I am disabled, and this narcissistic person loves to use it against me, but I am getting my power back. I’m bringing my health back and I’m getting back into the world, with a fun fulfilling new job,
A lie only has power when you believe it. Good for you for taking back your power! 💯👏
They love to target disabled people. Cowards that they are.
I'm a person that hates being told lies and people just trying to convince me of lies to make me somehow fool myself into "positive thinking" or some crap lol, that never works and if it does only temporarily it's one of the reasons the typical mantras about success and stuff makes me cringe so much it's not real or realistic.
I couldn't fool myself even if i tried either i'm too smart for that i can't even underestimate myself because i'll do anything and find some way around it to not do it which also can make things difficult on myself lol being smart also has it's drawbacks unfortunately, not even other people can fool me for very long even if they manage to lol and even if they did they still couldn't fully fool me.
I don't think usual therapists would work for this reason plus there's so much left out and they're too scared to go so much deeper then there's finding someone you click with, it's all about suppression with them too. Nah i just need the truth i'm also easy like that, people have gone around and around with me doing other things in a much more complicated and difficult way and then insist that is the only way and that i'm the issue. Nah sorry i know the truth and it's not the only way and certainly not the easiest possible solution. Truth is all there is and the best and fastest solution out of any of it we don't need to make things more difficult than it already is.
@philkanne3159 I’m doing much better now that I’m working and I’m not codependent on my husband anymore
Well done..I too am disabled after
A stroke think it was brought on by the stress in our relationship. She h
As been caring for me but doesn't really care for anyone but her image as an amazingly empathetic person. I'm in her country and have attempted to leave on sever
Al occasions. I'm so addicted to her I keep coming back
I actually came here to see if I was the narcissistic one in my relationship. I am in tears right now, realizing I was made to think I was as a means of control. Being unable to make decisions for myself, living like a zombie, compromising my personal ideals... it's like you could see in my head. Thank you for shattering the illusion.
A narcissist would never look up material about narcissism and try to find out if they are one 😐 it seems that they never scrutinise themselves. You have just being gaslighted. Stay strong and recognise their BS🙏🏼❤
My mom was like that years ago... I got out, but my younger brother stayed near her influence until she died in 2014... he's an alcoholic now. Get some therapy. Those tears you shed is pain, and therapy will help. I did 4 years of it, and it really, really helps.
I am in same situation...so awful. Hopefully we both find the courage to leave and be done
Same Steph, i now feel very elated indeed
Oh they will make you think that you are the problem and the narcissist. You’re not. You’re the empath that they were able to suck the life out of. I hope things have been getting better for you!
Staying away from people that makes you feel unconfortable.
Whenever you don't feel good it means there is toxicity entering into you.
yes, the body knows. listen to your intuition.
In my experience even this can deceive you...
Toxicity and NPD are not necessarily one and the same.. everyone is toxic, not everyone ignores that fact
Sometimes there is negative to anyone. You need to be carefull to determain if it's toxicity, or you just being irritated towards a person
@@DarkMadamX83everyone is not toxic. Some people are lovely. If you find everyone toxic thats pretty weird and objectively impossible.
"...Let your hope die..." ......ugh. This is the hardest part for me.
With one of my daughters this was the hardest part, when I said no there was a price to pay. The whole thing put me on the cardiac floor at the hospital, the Drs. told me to cut contract for 3-4 months.
Four years of therapy later, I am getting better at leaving it all in God's hands.
I was trying to be the best Christian I could (insert your faith), so I just kept forgiving for years, until it made me ill.
My blood pressure is awesome now, and I have more peace.
❤️🙏✝️
debbiedean3165 Religious beliefs can be just as unrealistic as anything else in the society we all live in and just look at how intentionally unrealistic that is.
I went to a church of england primary school too that accepted kids of all walks of life but they taught us consideration of others, but then somehow the teachers and others were always allowed to not be considerate of us and if we tried to express how we really felt and the real truth of it then tried to stand up for ourselves to get justice for how we were being treated suddenly then you are the bad guy or they did nothing and just kept going "just ignore it".
This is used in none church places too but i think it's a bit worse at places ran by churches because you must be considerate of others no matter what happens or you're being hurt. The real truth is though we cannot always be considerate of others and people who aren't of us don't deserve to be considered at all, it's clear why so many of us have Complex PTSD these days it's all so frustrating and confusing and clearly it's all helping narcissistic people take advantage of others and it sucks. I totally get it i really do you just have to ignore what society is pumping out to us and focus on what's real.
But necessary. It’s hard for me also.
It took 35 years, but the hope is officially gone. They NEVER change.
34 years and two now teenagers for me. Filed for divorce a month ago, absolutely terrifying! I ended up in a psych ward with bipolar diagnosis last year, and he blames it all on that! As if our "marriage" wasnt over years ago. But now I can hope again, that I will have my freedom. Richard you are the best! Keep the hard ones coming, please! ❤
I'm in the process of moving out and he was supposed to be out of state with his grown children but he came back after a week and a half, like I knew he would. I have not had to face him yet as he stayed in his man cave in the garage but I know when I get home from work he will probably try to talk. I have already done everything you just talked about and bought myself a house in a different town that he doesn't know where it is. His new supply already found out he is a lying cheating narcissist I'm leaving after 20 years so I know he's going to try and change my mind and hoover at some point through my packing up and moving. Whats helping me is that my grown son is with me right now and that keeps the narc at bay. Pray for my strength y'all! I got this!
“No one did this for me, I did this for me” Richard grannon.
Like I said, We are SPARTANS....
HANG IN THERE😙😙😙😙
Thank you Sire,
Again, you are an inspiration to us....
FUCKING SPARTANS!!!!!!💪💪💪💪
@Jim McIntosh
We will DO THIS!!!!!!
Can i ask if anyone has had an invitation via Richard through whatsapp?
I have.. and I'm unfortunately sceptical ..😆🙄
I don't even have this app ..
Just curious..? Anyone ever???
@@lillahbohamah5975 I would, however, I believe the closest you will get is this complementary webinar, or subscribe to his program. Believe me, I would have asked myself. BE STRONG SPARTAN🙌🙏🙌🙏
I was raised by a narcissistic father. He's 82, and he has never changed. He admitted in 2022, after I addressed him about his abuse, and he admitted he would never change. In 2017, I entered into a relationship with a man that I didn't recognize as having NPD until I watched this video. On June 14th, 2023, he stated to me, "I thought about asking me to marry him, but". When he said but, I said, "No." But when I said "no," nothing else was said. The next morning, he told me he didn't love me anymore and asked me to move out. He refused to speak to me and wanted nothing else to do with me. After watching this video, I can now look back and see what he was doing to me. I'm trying to move forward and search for ways to overcome his abuse. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It has been helpful, and I will continue to seek self-help therapy to become a stronger person.
Testing you~testing the waters
You "rejected" his "glorious" offer....
Good for you 🙌
@@mactine2k7Thank you for replying. I still feel such deep hurt
This was so intensely and brutally honest. And those of us in an abusive relationship really need the hard truth. Thank you.
You are great and sooo helpful.thanks
Yes we do.
God i love it lol don't you just love it?😂common hit me with it.
When you free yourself, they come after the children.
The nightmare I don't want to face is looking back at myself years down the road and saying I should have just left. I could have been so happy. I could have actually done the things I wanted to do.
One of the best videos on narcissists I’ve ever heard in plain, simple words. Excellent. I couldn’t help think that we are dealing with this on a macro scale… literally half the world is operating this way and gaslighting us on a massive scale on too many things to name. wonder if anyone esle feels the same
I do feel the same! Once I woke up to how horrible my family is …. I now see Narcissism everywhere. I’m practically hibernating 😢
I do!
Absolutely I think the media gaslight us constantly!
I do!
The struggle of good vs. Evil.
Comrade Richard says
Tell the truth. Despair. Grieve. Leave.
Must have boundaries.
Mandi Terrell,You look gorgeous 🌷🌹,Hope you are not with a narcissist!
I normally balk at all these self promoting life coaches stating the obvious and hustling for ratings and fame. But Richard has blown my mind. His analysis is so on the mark, and can only have come from survival of his own brutal experiences. I am blown away by his intelligence and generosity to want to share and empower.. Probably the most articulate piercing lucid profiling and tutorial on the hell that is living under the tyranny of a narcissist. I truly love his soul.
💯Agreed. I've learned so much!
For sure. Grannon is the real deal, and he's a warrior for the cause. I trust his insights. Every video I have seen and each of his presentations have been so spot on. I feel extremely lucky to have this information now. I'm very grateful for his presence online and his work.
What is working for me right now is I moved on as though this person is dead in my life. How would I live if this person was dead for real is what I will do now moving forward
I agree. I don’t talk about my experience to many people, they glaze over in misunderstanding. Oh he’s so lovely, entertaining, kind…. Blah blah. Richards info is spot on & could only come with lived experience. I’m very grateful 🙏💗
Compassion
I am and my 2 kids are narcissistic abuse survivors 🎉 we made it out safely 🙏
I wish there was more education about this in the general public. I hear too often about women who choose to have children with these beasts and end up in advertently, exposing their children to life altering experiences.
There needs to be more education about these monsters, being safe from them should not be a privilege but a right. They cause so much harm and don't care for the consequences for other people that they have to go through just to get away from them. My family is safe now too, but my mother put me through hell and tried to destroy everything and everyone I have ever loved. And my children were not safe from her, along with myself especially as I was a direct target.
I am so happy for you. Unfortunately you are tied to the narcissist so be very careful they do not use the children to get back at you. I am estranged from my children because of the narc. Never underestimate them.
These Narcs ruin people’s lives. There are no laws in my state that protect you from these abusers. Currently I’ve filed for divorce and my attorney sees a serious threat and has filed for a protection order, which the judge denied, because he sees no imminent threat.
So did me and my two sons
I found out by Googling the question why won't my husband ever say sorry. When I started reading I felt like I couldn't breathe like someone had punched me in the gut. It was the most bizarre thing ever to see phrases and things like walking on eggshells and gaslighting and word salad and things that all made sense to me. It definitely has empowered me and also watching videos such as yours and others. It truly does seem as if we have some dark people roaming. God bless and keep you!
They never say sorry x
Instead of a sorry you usually get blamed even though you haven't done anything
@@meganbrain6634 isn't it the truth oh, they will even blame you for things that they have done. They can run into a parked car and still somehow it will be your fault. I have seen it over and over again, they're very blame-shifting and ruthless. And somehow they can sleep anywhere, anytime, there's a lack of conscience so they can sleep like the dead.
@@karinajones1121 exactly, accepting blame to them is like death, they're fragile egos can't take responsibility for their own mistakes. It's an exhausting game oh, and we need to leave them!
"We have some dark people roaming." WELL SAID!👍
Just did my core value test. I now see why I can attract narcs but why they can’t stand me. My top five are authenticity, forgiveness, trust, courage and compassion. Yes I can be forgiving and compassionate but my authenticity and courage always protect me by irritating those who fail to control me. 😊😊😊😊😊 I’ll keep being myself. It’s so good!
@@FancyForestPerson - that was so interesting! So glad you got through the hurt... to understand those people were in your life for the wrong reasons. Yaaay you! 💪👍
Fancy Forest, people who have suffered interior trauma from narc abuse may retreat back into their shell, yes. Because this is a part of their way to heal. They know solo best, it's not about you. They can feel overwhelmed ...when they are ready they will reach out to others again. Just be supportive and help them heal.
Same values 💜 keep being you 😊
Looks like you might be the problem, not them.
These comments are hilarious. 🤣
They could be resumed by : "Meeee ! Meeee ! Look how great i am."
Wow, this describes my life completely. After 45 years of marriage, I finally started to question my husband’s behaviour a couple of years ago. The same pattern was with his father who treated his wife with emotionally, financially and physically abuse. Narcissistic was not a word 30/40 yrs ago. I have done the TEST many times after my husband would have a angry tantrum or sulk if I dared to question his behaviour. If ever I need something, I would have to either “ WAIT- FIGHT FOR IT - OR HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF! “ Even no contact is painful because he walks around with a smirk on his face and if I try to approach him after days and days of silence, he just oks at me with an evil look in his eyes. I was brought up on morals and values, I know now, that what my parents taught me, does not exist in a Narcissist. Watching your videos and reading comments brings it home that these people have no empathy at all. Other family members see a happy, funny, helpful person, no one ever sees what see…. So frustrating- I am a survivor like my MIL, god her…..Life is too short to live in these conditions anymore, at 64, I just want to live MY LIFE NOW, not his.
Me too ..37 years with mine😪😪
37 years here..hard road! Looking for the exit!
That is so true. I feel like I waisted my life and energy on that marriage for 25 years 😢 I was surprised how many women are going through the same. I wish you all the best and that you can finally be yourself again and enjoy life.
Yeah it's not fun living around and can do so much damage.
28 years here....
I am not sure of your name sir, but this is the most important information on Narcissism I have ever experienced. You delivered the information in the most professional manner; never mind whether or not a credentialed clinical psychologist. Sigmund Freud was a credentialed clinical psychologist who believed and taught we are all a product of what has happened to us in our lives, however, Carl G. Jung believed and taught that we instead can become what we choose to become. Freud was a "Mature Soul" whereas Jung was an "Old Soul." The excellence in what you have put together here is a "gift to humanity," and you will never be forgotten for it...
B.T.W. I was married to one of these creatures for over 3 decades, and raised 4 children from birth to adulthood before I "figured it out."
Thank you from my heart to your's...❤️
I left my narc boyfriend and father of my children 6 weeks ago. Hands down the most horrible, depressing, messiest and confusing time of my life . I know he is a narcissist and I’ve known for a while but the thoughts always arise of if i did the right thing to leave. This video is so validating. Thank you Richard. You once again reminded me that I did the right thing to RUN! And never look back.
Ugh...I am in the same situation...but unfortunately have no means to leave! He makes all the money...good money! And I'm so torn between leaving the life that I love or thought I did...i just cannot wind up in a womens shelter with my daughter! ( if that makes sense?)
I have 5 daughters with a narc. So how do I do this.. Take the father out of there life. The youngest are 2 years old twins they love him.
@marce G are you safe? If you are safe and you can’t get away right now, look into grey rocking. Its where you put up emotional armour they can’t get through. It’s difficult to do but sometimes you have no choice. I managed it for a decade until my kids were older.
get out and stay out get your life back feeling so sorry you had to put up with that for so long wish you all the very best please keep strong and and don't look back you deserve to be happy start doing what you want for the rest of your life love
Keep an eye on you're children, now they will be the victims.
I was married to a "narc" for 30 years. As an empathic individual, over time I found myself victimized and believing I was insane. However, three years ago I began a journey of empowerment and self-worth and began to say "NO". I stopped feeding my husbands ego and need to be right. I would not allow him to twist his words around in an attempt to blame me. I began to take back my power...and that infuriated him. I did not absorb his emotional outbursts nor did I continue to look the other way when, for example, I knew he was lying about having an affair. I was ready to leave and felt confident in my decision...and then we both got COVID and he eventually died from complications due to pneumonia that developed. I was stunned and most certainly heartbroken over this loss...at the same time, for the first time in a long time, I felt free from the misery he instilled on me with his narcissistic ways. I feel guilty for feeling this way, indeed...and also fearful that I might once again be subject to narcissism to the point that I am pushing anyone and everyone away who expresses an interest in me. Your video really inspired me and gave me hope on how to recognize and combat the narcissistic personality by simply listing my values and sticking to them. Staying true to myself and using the "checks and balances" of my values to help gauge my surroundings, feelings, and integrity is indeed a helpful tool. Thank you for your video. It truly inspired me.
I'm so glad your free now☺️
I am sorry for the loss of your husband and marriage. And the grief of lost time. I am happy you are free to be you. XXOO
you are an inspiration
Please do not feel guilty for these thoughts or feelings. I understand completely!! You can mourn your loss of course, but also are allowed to feel relief that the abuse you endured has finally ended for good! (You probably would not feel that if he just left/broke up). Feel peace & joy knowing it will never return. 🙏 Find solace in knowing his own internal misery is over as well. Your feelings are valid & justified💖 Please take all the time u need to heal, then go love YOUR new life 🙌
When you see the red flags, plan quietly and run! Never tell them you are leaving-they are DANGEROUS.
I did.
@@janwinqvist7419 , proud of you!
Are they really?
@@jackie7796 are they dangerous?
many are, yes
If not all, to some degree of risk.
some of them are very very dangerous
some of them will set out to destroy your life at the mere suggestion that you would want to leave or do not want to be with them
Some of them will go to extreme measures of all kinds (financial, lies/smear campaigns, or violence) rather than "be discarded" by you - which is how they will see it if you want to steer clear of them (although not consciously aware of any of that, they'll just react), because they habitually discard people without a thought, as if they are useless objects
The smart ones who have found success in life and/or are good looking and/or have gained some power in the world tend to be more dangerous. They may hide it well but will feel enraged by your desire to leave rather than them getting away with using you as long as they want and discarding you when they feel like it. And they will *punish* you, with a tenacity and contempt that is appalling. And they will find any extra and new way to abuse and hurt you that they can, and/or *undermine your actual ability to leave* if they can.
The dumber ones who may have less power of various kinds can still make real trouble for you- nothing insults them like being confronted with the fact that you are not impressed and do not want to be there.
And they too will find any extra and new way to abuse and hurt you that they can, and/or *undermine your actual ability to leave* if they can.
@@jackie7796 why do you think it’s such a trope for women to file false legal accusations against men, get violent, etc. if they try to leave,
and correspondingly for men to beat or stalk women, lock them in abusive legal messes, etc?
Junk values, that is a great expression. Recently realized that a boundary I set with my fiance (now ex) which she decided to cross all the time; the boundary was based on a great value - respect. She inserted her junk values into her reasoning for crossing the boundary (flirting with men in front of my eyes) and said that is acceptable behavior because she is attractive and I should be grateful. So glad to see this video and learn about junk values, because that explanation of hers is total junk.
Junk values of my ex believes it's only cheating when you're married. If you're dating, she feels cheating only happens when penis inserts into the vagina. All other sex acts are considered genuine consensual acts between " friends " and shouldnt create feelings of betrayal. She is Insane.
Wow. That happens one time and you have to pack your bags. Thank goodness you’re out.
❤brilliant.
You helped me save my own life! I had exactly what you're explaining happening to me. For 3 years I was with a woman with whom I thought was the girl of my dreams. Once we moved in together I quickly realized she was actually the girl of my nightmares. But I held on and kept trying to make it work. Bending to her whim at all costs. Listing to her entitled demands and outlandish expectations. Dealing with her childish fits. The entire time I was being gaslighted, I felt like I was the problem. About a year ago I listened to your speech about the female narcissist. It blew me away. And I listened to it until I could memorize it. Further down the road you talked about saying "no" and testing for NPD. So I started testing her by saying "no". She exploded sulking or even raging with infantile reactions that dragged on for days sometimes. It was sickening. Then from further suggestion from your videos, I started a strong morning routine of structured journaling, yoga, breath work and meditation. I started to feel human again. I started to feel like I had control of my life. Eventually I left her, it was hard, I went back a couple times, Finally I went "no contact" and it worked! Even though I still grieve from time to time. I feel like I'm free. Free from abuse, free from her ridiculous expectations, and I'm finding myself again. I'm feeling independent and strong. I'm a new person. My friends see it, my community is growing and I feel love all around me. When I was with her, I was isolated, a shell of a human on the brink of suicide. Richard Grannon, your videos helped me so much. I can't thank you enough. My life is so much better having had you guide me through all of this. Keep up the great work! I see what you're seeing in society, and I agree with your philosophies almost all the time. I'm a fan for life. I'll keep checking in, and I'll keep protecting myself from abuse and the sick individuals that are lost in a sea of their own pain. SPARTIN FOR LIFE! I even got your logo tattooed on my hand to remind me of my accomplishments! Big Love bother!
Such a perfect analogy 'lost in the sea of their own pain'. They truly are.
Same bro. I just dodged moving in with her. She wanted babies and marriage too. Swerved.
Good for you! When you move in with them, the abuse really intensifies and you can't get away from them. She was pushing me to move in within the year, so lucky that didn't happen. Walking on eggshells is brutal. The disproportionate rage attack tantrums over minor things are shocking.
@@SoccerPhoto The first major step is becoming enlightened to emotional abuse and narcissism. I'd recommend going to therapy, make sure you figure the "why," why did you let this person in and why did you stay so long. I made that mistake of not understanding the why after my marriage to my abusive ex-wife and ended up with another abusive women who was a complete mental case. Good luck! You got this!
@@kennethsilvestri5874 I totally agree about the why, it's not always that obvious and can require a lot of thought and reflection, but so important to know so that you don't remain vulnerable to people who will take advantage.
I know you're probably fed up with narcissists Richard, but thank you for all the resources. They helped me put my life back together when I crept out of a 20 year marriage, barely alive.
Hey Cor B! I know the feeling -- I left a similar marriage after 26 years. Only after I was gone was I able to better see just how badly I had let her abuse me. It took a while to rebuild my life and my self image but I eventually met a wonderful woman (who had been mistreated by her first spouse as well) and we have both been stunningly happy with each other for over twenty years now. Stay strong, stay optimistic! Your best years are in front of you now!
Ditto Cor B I decided to stay on my own now because I never want to go through this again ! I hope you find happiness and love x
Ditto. 37 years.
Well said.
I’m sorry you all went through such sadness and hardships but I think you for sharing because it helps people like me to not feel like such a failure and stupid. I’m not the only one and your voice and sharing saves others
Do not let the narcissist lead!!! I'm getting this tattooed on my forearm!! Thank you Richard!
COOL AND FUNNY
THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER!!
He doesn’t deserve that property on your arm. It is a great quote and strategy to always remember.
It would be great as a print on a shirt - 😊👍
How many women have told their husband no and was given the silent treatment for it? That's the first "no" that needs to be tested long before you wear the ring. Long before.
Yeah husband asks if it is OK to go do a thing with his mates and wife says no. Yet he is the bad guy
@@lupaswolfshead9971 Like what?
And don’t become intimate with anyone until you’ve run tests. Do not do it. And for the love of God do not bring a child into this & then later claim, “But I didn’t know! They deceived me!” You did not do your due diligence.
I was friends with a co-worker who revealed she was dealing with a particularly difficult relationship, and it was becoming increasingly more volatile, until it reached the point where she needed to get out. I helped her to remove herself safely from the situation by taking her back the apartment they shared, after work, while he was gone. It was very scary because she had already told me he was becoming increasingly hostile and abusive toward her, and she was visibly nervous about him showing up and discovering her plan to leave, while we were there. She had already loaded her car that morning, after he left for work and had me take her back to the apartment to drop the keys off, after her shift was over. She would be leaving town from there, and didn't want to take a chance of him coming home early to find out (and show up at her work), until she was across the state line. We pulled it off without a hitch, she made it safely to her parents, and successfully went on to live a very healthy restored life. It was after she moved that that she started an online support group about narcissism, and invited me to join. That was when I learned that I was so busy helping her with her situation, that I didn't realize that I was totally ignoring my own problems. I even remember making a point TO NOT TELL my husband what I was doing, this whole time, because I knew he wouldn't support my efforts. By the time I got home, albeit a little later than usual, he had already gone to the bedroom and didn't even come out to find out what I was doing. I fixed dinner which he didn't even acknowledge, and we went to bed in our separate rooms.
When I started seeing the links to counseling for narc abuse, that's when I learned what narcissism is and the lightbulb came on. I am 2 years free of my abusive situation and am very grateful for all the help I've received since my "awakening" from the lie I had been living with for 19 years.
I know your story all to well. It's odd how open and gregarious I am, but there's this other side of me that just refuses to see or speak. I can be such an open book and you'll never know me, I have no idea how I do it. I keep wondering what's going on that I've walked away, like yourself, but I still seek something more to know and want to understand, but I have no idea what it is that calls me. I'm glad you left your situation. I bet he's still scratching his head because he can't figure out why you left.
💚💚💚💚
"Don't let them lead". On our first holiday a few weeks into our relationship, my narc-ex asked me to give him my passport. I innocently said no and that I'd look after it myself. He smirked and accused me of being controlling! I defended myself and wanted to prove I wasn't controlling, so I offered him my passport, which he then declined (I know, I know). So many red flags and signs right there. I knew it was odd but at that point, I had absolutely no idea what I was dealing with. I escaped two years later in the middle of a silent treatment. Lessons learned.
Tests, accusations, controlling, projection. Do not ignore or make excuses for red flags.
I lived with a covert vulnerable narcissist for 27 years. I have only just realised he is a narcissist. I kept all his emails, divorce papers, texts etc . I found them and started reading them again. OMG I get it now! Richard your work is priceless! Thank you soooo soooo much. If I said no to my vulnerable narc or disagreed with him he would laugh at me, ridicule me and tell me I was mentally deranged and beyond hope. He never showed any overt anger.
My heart goes out to you Veronica. My sister in law is in one too and has me fooled for 30 years despite warnings I felt sorry for her then she turned on me with such hatred it almost took me to suicide. She manipulated my entire family to the point I then apologised which has only intensified the smear campaign. No contact with entire family for two years
This laughing is worse than the literal rage that some do. At the end I saw it was a mocking trying to set me off thing and it worked sometimes. This is called REACTIVE ABUSE,. The ultimate gaslighting blame shift.. next thing you know, the issue becomes your reaction instead of what they were not taking responsibility for in the first place!
@@Adam-xs3ng It's all about control (after their mask comes off) to narcissist types, I've come to learn. Your advances in life were too much of a threat to her
@@AZDC99 - Yes, they are so good & practiced at so many forms of abuse. They (Narcs) make me sick & at times, I still get angry with myself for not seeing what he was & what was going on. We both worked 6+ days per week (self-employed) and until I stopped - I never had time to research & start learning about Narcassism. Once you do start to learn, it's like seeing something you wish you hadn't - you can't unsee it. I am working on my Exit Plan & will finally be free in 1 yr. Can't wait to reclaim myself. Hugs & strength to all who are here.
@@Adam-xs3ng - re: your control comment - yes, totally about control. Also, I find that they are very defensive, as in ridiculously defensive. They never truly loved us, they just want our qualities, those they admire yet lack in themselves. Eventually, they end up despising us because they can't ever have, develop or emulate those same qualities.
Such sick people & I can't wait to be free.
My clue was, after having an avoidable car accident when I was overly stressed, this person said, "When I heard about your accident, I just laughed and laughed and laughed! I thought it was the funniest thing I ever heard!" One of the many hurtful things this person has said/done. When confronted, this person will "not remember" or threaten a medical emergency....My solution is that I don't see this person anymore. I won't be around them for any reason.
Richard is very good at dissecting and walking people through the gory details of going no contact.
In GB, you can always join the rest of the world except the US and probably other english speaking countries!!!
Going no contact finally brought me peace 🙏
Elizabeth Ciccantelli,You are beautiful 🌷🌹,Hope you are not with a narcissist!
I’m so very grateful for this mans wisdom. To think of the pain he has had to endure to gather this information is heartbreaking but it’s miraculous how many he has helpedheal because of that pain. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for your thorough follow up and work. Your message and teaching is amazingly helpful , practical , hard core realistic and simple to follow. Much thanks again Richard.💚
Hang in there Miss...
We are a community.
We have each other's back😙😙😙😙
I was just feeling my gratitude here too. 4 years ago I pulled myself out of an 11yr mess by what I learned from Richard. Sometimes I come back to listen to his new videos to remind myself how far I have come. 🙏
Me too.
It's been some time for me as well, from EVERY angle.
It sucks, however, we are going to get through this. Hang in there sweetheart, remember, WE ARE STRONG, WE ARE A COMMUNITY, WE ARE SPARTANS!!!!!!💪💪💪💪😍😘😍😘😎😎😎😎
@@marahmoonflower7926 Marah, I know it hurts.
This is growing pains, an adjustment so to speak. We are ALL adjusting. Be thankful we got the boss in our corner.
We have all been brought together for a reason. You are beautiful, important, significant, and these attributes cannot nor will NOT be taken away from you darlin, step forward, WE ARE SPARTANS!!!!!!! AND WE ROCK😍😍😍😍
The best advice I have ever in my life received from my very very best friends! (Which I did not listen to for 4 years!)
"When they Show and Tell you who They Are.. BELIEVE Them!"
This guy is AMAZING! I cant believe I'm just learning about him🤷♀️
ive accepted that none of them will change ... mourned the loss of the dream and am mostly no contact with narc fam/ no contact w exes
I was with a female narcissist for 6 years. At first, I had a fragile ego and felt inadequate with relationships because up to that point my longest relationship was 6 months. I saw the red flags but convinced myself that relationships naturally have problems, and they do, but not like when you're dealing with a narcissist.
ironically, this experience led to me becoming more confident. It started when I moved to another state to be with her. I got a job that scared me and I lacked confidence in my abilities. As I got better at my job, I realized it was no different than any other job and I started asking myself what can I do to be happy? what can I do for me? what do I want? Why should I be the one to compromise in my relationship ALL THE TIME?
As I got more confident in my relationship I naturally did the things mentioned in this video bc what I initially thought were cute quirky personality flaws, women like to tell men what to change etc etc... became more like issues with reality as time went on, or, in other words I was waking up to reality. The more confident I became, the more lost in another world my partner became. The gaslighting and distortion of reality is what pissed me off to the point of leaving. It was the increased controlling behaviors that pushed me to my freedom.
Rich gives good advice here. I did what he recommended and man, like I couldn't say no bc it turned into a freaking 2hour to 2 day ordeal of fighting and watching her cry... be careful though, like he said, bc doing the test to see the response can be dangerous, but you have to look at your situation and make that determination.
Life is short, do you really want to spend it settling for unhappiness?
It's been a year since I left my situation. I am about to go after some hobbies that I've put off for years. I'm about to change jobs and go after a higher paying job which I will get. I haven't dated, not bc I'm scared, but bc I'm drained, emotionally and physically, not so much now. I definitely won't settle for the illusion of happiness anymore. I started talking to a lot of women, and I listen to the red flags now. I'm comfortable being alone, it's ok.
Listen to this guy. He knows his shit. He's lived it too. good luck to everyone.
Well done!🌻
You really understand and said that well, you could write a book because you have a gift of articulation. I'm glad your free☺️
I've been leaving toxic relationships since I was 15 yrs old. Happier alone, with my daughter, 8 cats & a wee Yorkie lol 😂. Was watching Johnny Depp trial when I chanced upon your Narcissistic video. I use to be a RN (MANY AREAS) yet this wasn't a topic taught to me 1983-85. You've re-educated me. My Narcissists were men but also some female family members. I just didn't know about it at the time.. Thanx
Good thing u didn't have any kids...u dodge a bullet 😁
I've felt like I am the problem 😕 you know we are always discussing how to make me better ,and truthful I'm miserable always working on me instead of working together!
When i was with my husband, i did tell him no, and I did mirror him, because after 5 years of him steadily upping the abuse I just did it naturally. Finally got the COURAGE to leave. That is what it takes..facing your fears, Richard Grannon is absolutely correct. I am afraid to be alone, i do not like it...but here i am and i feel much more calm. Watch more of Richard's videos and also w/ Sam Vaknin. Truly insightful.
Dr Ramani is a top narc expert too
Watching again. I left him 4 days ago. The HOOVERING is real. Ironically in my room 101 is my deep empathy for him, my understanding of how he is the architect of his own demise and where it stems from. I also fear the hoovering, knowing that I'm all he has in the world.
We could be SO good together, but the gaslighting, rage fits, all te rest became too much. I left him before, end of August last year and he changed so much for the better, or so it seemed... I doubted if he was really a Narcisist and has since learned about the different types. For 3 months it went very well with "only" one or two incidents. The total relapse from early Dec. I tried to keep my boundaries in place and detached emotionally. I certainly had to put the brakes on the finances, although he expected less this time round. He even did things for me he would not before.
The red flag I chose to ignore when slowly getting back with him was his minimising of the issues as I brought it up.
Now he tells me he loves me and seems truly defeated. Probably an act to lure me right back in? Who knows...
Minimising = not taking accountability
That's my Room 101 too. I see the person HE COULD'VE BEEN and I see what happened to cause it. I remember the times when masks were off and we just had fun together. That's what's causing me so much pain
@@hellothere98765 thank you. I really appreciate you reaching out. 8 months later and I'm still involved in his life. However, I'm stronger, more empowered and ready to walk away for good at the drop of a dime. I've come to realise that it is anxiety around abandoning another that has kept me stuck, and because he has literally got no one else in his life. It is hard but I'm getting there, slowly but certainly. It's going to happen soon. Thank you for the significant wishes to me. Liberation is the key.
Yes
I guess Intamacy and sex was off them menu as well????
This is such a powerful and simplified way of keeping hold of what's left of "you" and beginning to refocus and regenerate your energy despite your current condition. Thank you Richard!
Powerful and simplified way! Spot on. And his choice of words at the opening was so perfectly told like a symphonic poem without mincing words. Well thought and put together. This needs to be passed on in my opinion
H.G. Tudor
Wow hay I almost feel relief watching this 😍😍😍
Yes, be on guard when you say no. I kindly told my father no and his reaction was very verbally violent. I developed PTSD from the experience. So, be prepared for anything!
Hmmmmm - I JUST found ..that you can 'battle them, with a smile.' Cos - they knoooow they are in the wrong. ;)))
My first date with the love of my life showed she wasn't the one but I was smitten with her beauty. She asked me a time to see her on the first date. I said 5pm. She blow up and said " Thats too late, forget it I don't want to go". I was like WTF? I told her fine I'll go about my day....we made a compromise and went on her terms but I was shocked when she heard something she didn't like. I never had that happen. Plus, she was so beautiful I didn't want to ruin the opportunity so I tossed the rules out the window to get her to except me. Im insecure around beautiful girls so it was the only chance at "model status" I was gonna have.I see why she couldn't keep a man. They all RAN because after that, nothing went smooth. It was hell. Beauty on the outside doesn't make beauty on the inside.
If thinking about the response strategies makes your heart race, you already have a test result.
Yeah buddy that means you already know what you're dealing with because you've already done it. It's nice to have insight and advice but sometimes experience and intuition tells you what you need to know.
That says you're dealing with a narcissist.
Well said, past occurrences were running through my mind as he explained the test.
OMG!
Until around five years ago, I had no idea how I’ve been in these kinds of situations my whole life.
By many different people, and many different intensities.
Everything in my life had to crash to see how I’d been exposed to, and how I had aided in their awful treatment.
Standing for your core truth really is the only way for me to break the chain.
I still battle some family members, because of the long repeated cycle.
I have boundaries with them, and NO is the most effective deterrent.💯
I’ve been following Richard for over 4 years. He’s led me out of the darkness and into the light, after I was raised in a horribly abusive Narcissistic household, then married an abusive Narcissist. Thank God, I have broken free of Narcissism and am able to now have a glorious, normal and happy life.
Wow good for you, please keep sharing your story you are inspiring others to do the same. This gives me hope thank you!🙏
Same here.👍
i left the "dead soul" with NPD 5 years ago. I used it as a stepping stone to set tough boundaries. To be consistent with own values, this scheme can be applied to anyone even without disorders.
With regard to saying "no", my personal experience has been with an extremely passive-aggressive Narcissist. She was actually my foster daughter, age 17 and was ticking all of the boxes. It was so difficult to see at first as she actually appears humble, quiet and fragile and is never visibly disagreeable. What I would find later was that the "no" resulted in passive-aggressive revenge: hurting my dog, letting the dog's lead go in the middle of heavy traffic, breaking my laptop screen and countless phone screens and eventually, she actually wiped her bum on my facecloth and urinated on my toothbrush. Her revenge was served cold as she would give no indication of being upset about the "no" - but then bide her time for revenge. Because of this it was extremely confusing and took a long time to identify. When I finally ended the placement (after she did this to me over and over again) she made false allegations and even though she has a documented history of making false allegations, professionals believed her and painted me as the evil foster parent who had no understanding that these young people come with issues. It felt so unfair but unfortunately it's pretty typical - you get a second punch in the gut later when they trash talk you to everyone who will listen. Either way, I have my life and my sanity back, my home is filled with peace and my dog is happy.
Wow! Wiped her bum on your facecloth!!!!That's a form of assault!
Wow.never would of thought to look for those types of revenge.
What a NIGHTMARE and SO GLAD you are free of THAT..."No good deed goes unpunished...On steroids...Yikes.
Well, everyone who believes the trash talk will be getting a demo of it themselves
This sounds like my mother and I don't have any of those traits for the actual voiceless of this act are always the best one to do better is the only revenge
The grief is profound when the narc is your adult child. 30+ years of attempting to make myself into the mother I thought she deserved. I’m 72yo and have decided to go no contact. The emotions are so complicated. Painfully sad and liberating at the same time. Thank you once again Richard. I have your book and am part of the Unleash group. ♥️
I know that one.
Oh my goodness! I’ve been searching about this personality disorder for months now and have never found a parent that is dealing w/a child that is a narc. And am so happy I came across your post! I, too, have a child, my son, that is a narc. And I am stuck living w/him this year because my ex, his father, died last year and my family insisted I needed to help him. Now i am living a nightmare? I have had 2 black eyes in the last year because he is abusive, but never was physically before!? Everyday is a struggle to survive and the guilt I feel about leaving him is as painful? I’ve decided I have to leave to survive but don’t know how to take the 1st step? I have 2 other children I don’t even see because of him. My other son begs me to leave but offers me no help i think he is scared of him, too? How do you do it? Do you get outside help w/your feelings of staying no contact? I am desperate and don’t know where to start w/this process and feel bad because he loved his Dad and he is grieving. I have this thought, if I as his mother doesn’t help him who will? Isn’t it my responsibility to support him? Thanks for posting!
If you are 65 or older contact elder abuse hotline in your area immediately. They can help. You are being abused and need assistance to stop it now. I know I’ve been there.
Thank you Mary C., however, I am only 55yrs old? I did have a talk w/my mom and she is turning 80, but a young 80, she lost the only man she ever loved last year, my father. So, she invited me to come and stay w/her until I can get settled! This has made such a difference in my stress & anxiety because I hate to ask & be a burden on people because I am very independent. Bottom line I don’t have to put up w/this behavior for much longer!? That you for your thoughtful reply!
@@jmc5115 If you’re disabled or are an at risk adult, they will help you. I have called them before and they helped me.
"If you have to let them lead you have to let them lead as little as possible. Take as much control in your life. Because they'll put you in a receptive position they'll cause you to wait they'll cause to feel like you have to wait for them to make the decisions. Don't. YOU move your own life forward now" taking this to heart.
This is was sooo important to hear for me too. Having minimum contact now I still feel stuck and nos I know why.
"Let your hope die" is the most freeing sentence I've heard this year. I felt her dying for some time now, but I was afraid of what I realized a long time ago. I just didn't want to admit to it. It's time to let go and face my fears. Thank you.
You can do it my friend! You deserve someone who deserves you. :-) stay strong and good luck! xx
I let go of my family just to survive.
@@deborahwarren1705 you did what you had to do. You are a SURVIVOR. So, congratulations. I know it was hard, but you did what had to be done. It took strength most cannot fathom, much less carry within. Hence, no one can ever hurt you again. Not like this. And there is NOTHING you cannot overcome. You know that now, so relish in it. Rejoice. 🥂
"You are not to them what you think you are." - this helps so much; I now realise I am not, to my younger brother, the best elder brother I have always tried to be. After years of accepting & making excuses on his behalf, and finding excuses for his behaviour when he upset my parents or me, his last episode has finally made me see the light - he has serious issues. And I need to pull back. It's terribly sad to accept that we'll never have the brotherly love I always strived for. But now, finally, I can let the healing begin. Thank you so much for this video. ❤️💪🏼
How did he become one?
Is he a Golden Child? It seems like they tend to become narcissist
Sooooooo..........YOU'RE the brown noser ! got it.
INCREDIBLY VALUABLE VIDEO. Thank you. Hard truths spoken here and many tears shed but I needed to hear this. I took a plethora of notes. THANK YOU.
“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Isaiah 5:20
Amen
Amen
If you cherry pick, that book has good parts. If you believe it all you are worshipping the biggest narc ever. Just saying
@@FancyForestPerson yes
Glory to the Lamb of God!
Truth!
Amen
Truth, justice, freedom, bravery, peace.
At an absolute crossroads with these narcs. I've made up my mind to go no contact, but first I must survive a week with them. Using all I can from 20 years of therapy and figuring myself out, all I keep hearing in my mind is
"Abandon sincerity with the insincere," this is my mantra. I've had a taste of freedom and living my life without anyone controlling it, and I'm addicted.
Thanks Richard for years of verbal drills, I think it's really helping!
It helps me hear you say that you’ve been there multiple times bc that is part of what I beat myself up for. I grew up in a N home and married one then left then dated them. Now I’m trying to. Hold the courage to face the door 101 and I’m so scared. But I need to do this. I just don’t know if I can trust myself. So the list will help. And the “always do better the more courageous you are” helps. Thanks. I listen to lots of your videos. I’m exhausted and want a new life.
Yesss you can! Open the door. The horror will be there. It's going to be shocking but it gives you the strength to leave forever. I did it. It was hard. It hurt very much and I grieved over one year but now I live in peace and my freedom is worth it. Wish you luck and please be sure you can go where you are safe! Narcs don't accept to loose a game so quickly and if you were his main supply he will do anything to get you back, stalking, future promising,..etc., don't believe him. He knows your caring side. Keep safe 🙏🏻🩷
TRUST YOURSELF 🌟
“Don’t let them lead.” That’s it right there. Being divorced, I’m still waiting for responses on his time with the kids and so forth. He still has power. And he wields it. This is brilliant. Thank you.
Good luck to you. Please don't hesitate to state what you want & need, that can make all the difference. Sometimes that is all it takes. No matter what they say or how they behave, state your facts. No matter how loud they get, state what you need.
@@SydMountaineer ..Right ! and as unemotional as possible. Tears..feeds them !?!?!?
Don't let them LEAD 💔 ANYTHING
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@@kimgordon3695 - Yeah. And they try n 'Keep you a Kid' !!! When it is THEM that are !?!?!
When it is needed - BE the PARENT, especially if you know that they have / had Narc. parents. ;)
I did.
The hardest most painful aspect of this for me is that I loved these men who looked at me as a thing, an object, a faceless servant.
Extreme entitlement and manipulation, lying, is what they all had in common.
Yes!! 4 days spent “hiding” in the spare bedroom (coming out to eat, etc) after he went to bed - because I was receiving the silent treatment for daring to say no (nicely) to a second round of physical intimacy within a couple of hours.
My mother had NPD. I discovered it 7 years ago, I was 52 at the time. Until that moment I lived like Helen Keller, lost in darkness, not understanding anything. Poisoned.I had a few friendships and relationships with narcs. A life of pain. I inflicted pain too because of it. She died this year , I had no more contact. But being the scapegoat I have been rejected , denied, disowned by father & brother. The healing is long and hard. I owe you for my progress, and to Sam, and a couple more. Thank you so much.
@Nathalie Dufour *
This seriously sounds "exactly" like some one I know!! 👀
God bless you. I know exactly how you feel. My hope is endless in them changing and I can’t accept that they will not. Not yet ... anyway. Thank God I am learning more and more from this channel. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Your life starts now👍🏻
@@callonthenameofjesus1459 Wow, this is me, sis. I am already severely disabled because of what they have done to me + curses done over me to kill me but i still just naive and can't stop looking for the good/hope in such ppl.
Praise Christ He's faithful and loving and very patient with me also.
I'm learning.
God bless. Shalom from Germany.
@Nathalie Dufour
Please cry out to the Lord Jesus Christ. You don't have to do this alone. Let Him love and heal you, child. You're so precious to God you will never be able to fully comprehend. Let Him bind Up your wounds. There is a Living Hope for all the victims of narcissistic abuse and even for the narcissists.
God bless you.
May you experience the wonderful peace that only Christ can give and surpasses all understanding.
I am here listening because I have seen my spouse literally put effort into becoming a blossoming narcissist. Teaching himself to feel nothing in regard to the constant pain that he intentionally puts & leaves me in. He has been so devastatingly horrible that he can never make up to me all of the horrors that he has inflicted.
Am a 67 year old man and I’ve been dealing with someone like this for 24 years now with a 16 year old boy in the middle and hopefully near the end of a financially devastating divorce. The good parts are that with only calmness and the help of a recording device (certainly not family counseling) the boy and I were able to stay in our home until the place sold. People in the Cluster B spectrum are evil 😈 and this one could put on quite a show. Out of 6 different counselors, only 2 were quick enough to catch the games and they “didn’t know a damn thing” so back to square one. The Merry go Round will never stop until you pull the plug. When you love someone, it’s unbelievable how much punishment you will endure. The hardest part is realizing it wasn’t love with them. Still my biggest concern is my son who also endured being beaten down with emotional abuse and is still struggling (thanks to court ordered counseling) with setting boundaries. Be brave. Even if you lost the battle, you can win the war. The cost of Freedom has never been too great and that will never change.
I walked away from 9 properties when my narc went fake “bankrupt”.
My parents paid for my divorce lawyer who told me to get both of us to agree not to claim off each others’ parents’ estates should they die: I would win a secondary claim of “our” money going in to his mother’s account, but it would take years and cost squillions.
I’m still angry that I’m nearly 50, am renting, and own nothing, but I guess I have my health, parents & siblings, and FREEDOM.
Well said..!! I wish you and your son the best
I got out early fortunately, but has she not had a miscarriage, like you I would have stayed for the sake of the child. It was difficult leaving but I had to do it.
I LOVE your statement that the "cost of freedom was (is) never too great". Exactly! But something I will now use as a personal mantra and advice to others.
Its never too late to leave and you did the right thing for you and your son by leaving the relationship. The merry go around analogy and lack of boundaries is so true. I was a third party to a narcissistic relationship and got sucked in eventually. I was a partner to someone who co parented with a narcissist. In the beginning I let her deal with it and just supported and pointed a few things out. Eventually the conversations got more involved as the abuse/manipulation got worse. There would be an apology by the narcissist, good behavior for a little while then back to the manipulation. She would vent to me and I would try to remind her of the cycle of abuse she was in but I dont think it fully stuck. She admitted she was always conflicted in her decisions but didn't know why. It seems really difficult to disentangle everything when you cant go no contact due to kids.
I joined a Narcissist support group, but this feels so much better coming from a strong male vs a soft feminine therapist.
I feel stronger watching you
Hey, is this group online? do you have a link?
If nothing else, i am grateful to my abuser for giving me an opportunity to become another strong male victim, and i will not be quiet about it. I will exhibit healing, and in some way hopefully inspire my quiet, agonized brothers to do the same.
For facts see
Sam Vaknin👍🏻😁
Hg tudor is good too
Richard I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown not long ago because of my events entirely out of my control and I was scared. I was able to log back in and listen to your audios and I thank God♥️♥️♥️♥️
As difficult as any of us may be I hope you know how much you help so many in ways you and others could truly never know 🙏🏼
smmfh
Powerful! I am finally moved to action to free myself from my third narcissistic relationship.
I spent 18 years in an emotionally abusive relationship. Then jumped into a 4 year one after that. Each getting worse as I went. I became very self aware and took 4 years to heal and move on. Currently in a 10 month relationship and discerning between triggers from trauma and actual narcissistic traits in the new guy. I hate that I’m dealing with it again but I now have the love and respect for myself that trumps all. I’ve been gracious and given chances hoping he would change his behavior. We promised in the beginning to each other that we had both been hurt so we would communicate everything. Well, when I express something that is bothering me or call him out on things he is doing that hurt me, he flies off the handle. I approach him in the most loving way and do my best to not come across as attacking him or accusing him. I still get screamed over, gaslighted, accused of being a child. I’ve been broken down in 10 months. He’s on his way out. Thank you for this video 💕
My partner (parasite) does the same. Raising/discussing ANYTHING with him sends him into full blown defensive mode and he clutches at pathetic straws to turn things,,, back on me. I have tried many different approaches, always to get the same outcome. Nothing ever gets resolved. Like Richard said, you can't think your way out of this. I think i have seen enough and will believe the behaviour that has been shown.
I escaped one, and met one. But this time I spotted it within weeks and now I'm free again. Keep going. You know you can do this.
What helps me NOT to choose another narcissist,I make sure I write a list of what I DON'T WANT and stick to it,not excuse or explain other people's mistreatments of me.For example saying well they are probably not having a good day today,or maybe they didn't have enough sleep,etc...I take people at their face value and try not to see in others what they're not.If i don't see it now,it isn't there in the first place.Majority of times,our instinct or intuition tell us something is wrong with a person!I don't second guess myself anymore.If something is off,well best believe something is really off.Even during the love bombing stage,I knew something was off about the narcissist in my life.I ignored it 😒
@@lunadust8017 my favourite distraction/redirection from my ex was... if you hadn't opened the drawer, you wouldn't have seen the letter my newly discarded gf wrote in which you learned I'd been seeing her all along. Unbelievable.
@@mandyl7071 That`s what the mother of my ex-fiance told me after I had found he had cheated on me with his from another man highly pregnant ex and several other women and I went no contact from the second I knew all that had transpired behind my back. All the time I was suspicious he told me I was suffering from BPD and schizophrenia and needed to get treatment. Her would give me the silent treatment for weeks when I dared to aske questions. He tried everything to get in contact with me telling I was making this up to back out of marriage, those chicks were lying, his ex was a lying whore, then he said that a hole was a hole and I was one as well, so why bother if he used other holes, too - I never told him I had hacked his email account and his landlord living next door had told me that different women were stying there over night when I wasn`t around. "If you keep digging for shit, you`ll find shit. So why do you keep digging? Be glad he still wants to marry you." that was the message his mother left on voicemail. I had my number changed and prevented them from contacting me. It took me several years to get over that betrayal but I was glad I had found the strength to not let him pull me in again.
I found the answers after a 22 year entanglement with a narcissist. I sometimes think ive watched every video and read every article on how best to deal with this awful situation. Im very much closer to the other side at this point.
This video, in my opinion is far and away the best I've watched. Richard's points and suggestions are 100% spot on. Having lived through the torture and recovery i can say for sure this video says it all in a nutshell. Take your power back! Well done Richard. Youve been a huge help to me. Thank uou!
Same. Watched a thousand vids on the topic- this one is different. So good
I spent 5 years searching for videos about "how to work with a micromanager", "toxic boss", etc. And then RUclips's algorithm recommended videos about Narcissism, and now I'm getting videos on Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder and comorbidities like Narcissism. The first things I noticed were the aloof entitlement to overstepping boundaries, micromanagement, being critical of work to the point that causes systemic inefficiency, and blame-shifting those inefficiencies to clients and colleagues. Examples in include calling me in class to criticize me for not granularly checking in before and after every class even though the class was approved by him and at the exact same time every day, taking a laptop stand out of my hands to show me how to adjust it properly, looking over my shoulder as I was focused in deep work to tell me I'm doing things wrong, and not delegating projects to me until they are over a year old and the client is all but begging, and then blaming everyone but themselves for not completing the project faster.
What it makes me do? I learned about Grey Rocking and put as much distance between me and them as possible. I benignly say "Ok", "Sounds Good", "Understood" to basically everything and I never ask questions because it seems to upset them. I play dumb. I make boring excuses to travel separately, lunch separately, hotel separately, etc. I try to stop ruminating on any of it, and focus my energy on what I know is the right thing to do for my job and my life, like getting back in school and keeping it secret. I am in therapy, on meds, applying for other jobs, and secretly living my productively enjoyable life again. I don't mirror them. Most of what they have is OCPD and the narcissism is part of their coping mechanism. I don't care about them. My motto right now is Churn & Earn... to just get shit done, and turn it off at 5pm and get on with life. Save money, eat healthy, get exercise, love life, and leave them to their own suffering.
100% spot on!!! Thank You. Great Work!! I have learnt to take control by withdrawing my emotions from them. They can no longer take from me or lead... this is my life and I will no longer play the game. Due to my siblings and extended family, I keep peace, but I give nothing of me anymore. It may look like it to others, but THEY know I am no longer emotionally giving anything of my true self anymore.
Thank you, everything you described is true. I've been grieving the last few days. I'm out of this toxic relationship. I'm moving forward. God bless.
After two years of watching Richards' videos, this one has probably been the most important one to me since his "Your family hates you" video I watched at the beginning of my revelation. Cheers.
The term "narcissist" was not even on my vocabulary until I noticed some patterns of behaviour in family close relationships and started looking up. Thanks to you I have now not only got over the trauma but I can see they're petty games and "stick it" to them
Thank you for these videos. I left my husband after 30 years..ive never known such peace..
I needed to listen to this again today! “Don’t let them lead” every time you wait for a communication etc!!!❤❤❤🙏🏼💔♥️
I learned.
I didn't let them lead.
And the lie I could have walked into and would not have been able to walk out of.
Became apparent.
I am in opposite land and have been years.
I am broken
For people who thought I was something that doesn't exist
And we never needed fixing
Had a major fallout with my mother that caused me to mentally breakdown. I sought therapy and my therapist is the one who told me my mother was a covert narcissist...and I mever knew that was a thing. I appreciate your videos as they really helped me heal, along with therapy. Its been a year and i feel like a brand new person, now, and life is so much better. So very grateful for you. Thank you.
Thank you, Richard.
Radical acceptance of “what is behind door 101?” has taken me from allowing myself to WAIT for the ex to change, toward loving myself and my values enough to LEAVE.
Having empathy for the life these individuals lead does not mean that we stay with them. To me, they are a different “species” of human. They look and talk and do many of the things that we “humans” do, but their cruelty and lack of empathy for anyone but themselves makes them seem EVIL. I’d like to think that we, who have dealt with these individuals, are diametrically opposite to them in nature. We are LIVE!
Blessings!
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Nicely done. I like how you insist it's not revenge. We stand our ground and mirror those behaviours. Then test. I feel empowered. Thanks Richard.
Been listening to you since 2019...i've learned so much ....i'm no contact with the ex and life is good 😁
Life is good!
Dear Richard - Thank you for this advice. I want to say that I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself : but then I look at my life situations and realize - how I probably need to be reminded every 3- 5 days for the rest of my life. 🤔☺️👀
Many thanks Richard - for being steadfast & repetitive.
And I mean that with full respect & sincerity.
Your friend - in NYC. ☕️
I AGREE. I need reminding every 3-4 days, so I do not fall back nor get confused, nor forget all NarcEX put me through.
Thank you Mr. Gannon
This is exactly where I’m at
Thank you so much for reminding me why I feel so bad.
It’s time to let go
Susan Novello,You don’t need a narcissist in your life!
This video is SO validating to what I have been through. Thank you ❤️
I’ve listened to this a
Couple times just to really get it. I’ve spent the past 4 years trying to rewire my mind and heart and default my emotional system after being raised by narcissistic family to only jump into narcissistic relationships. I’ve hardly dated in 11 years after a massively abusive relationship that almost cost me my children. No one needs a man/father that bad. After years of isolating, I’m finally understanding what I did wrong. I am in love with potential. I have huge dreams and standards and I am dumbfounded when it falls so far from the mark. I need to stop expecting so much of myself and others as a way to make up for the abuse of a lifelong journey of never being good enough. I’ve been turning the cycle onto myself and others and being alone to avoid disappointment isn’t the answer to not being abused by another narcissist. Maybe I can learn to be more forgiving of myself, stop expecting super human outcomes from my efforts and try loving myself again…. Before I manifest more reflections of my self hatred. Truly, we let people treat us the way we do… we literally show them by the way we treat ourselves. Practicing more self love and self care is now showing me when someone in my life is out if synch. There’s room for understanding, but no more self abuse through the people I allow into my life.
Thank you for helping me work all this out. You’re lovely.
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Ever notice in fulfilling some of your own dreams the gap is filled nearly immediately with more and bigger dreams. So little time we take to credit ourselves of accomplishments most others would envy. And this attracts the narcissists to us, like flies to honey. Only they claim our accomplishments are incidental, not quite up to par, sucks to be us is their general projection - but that's a projection from them about themselves, not you. Take a break and enjoy your accomplishments.
Keep it up just
I could have written this. Knocked my breath away for sec reading it. I am really proud of you for all your self reflection and hard HARD work! Keep going! ❤️
This has been incredibly hard to take. I started looking up narcissist because I dated one last year who after 4 months showed his rage. So I was immediately out. My issue is with my twin sister. My Achilles heal. I hadn't recognized alot of her ways for a long time but she was a teen mom and she simply had it harder than I so what do I know. I accommodated her based off my ignorance. This relationship has been the hardest to let go. It seems unnatural even though she's dismissive and untrustworthy to me although I've always been there. I find it impossible to be my true self inside of it because her issues are always so much greater than mine. I heard from Jordan Peterson that if you can't go to your friend's with the good or the bad it's not true friendship. I don't have that luxury. This made me cry and I mean ugly cry. I have created the distance but it kills me that this is what it is. No one talks about a twin that you must let go. It's been a month and the first couple weeks of truly realizing the pathology I couldn't get out of bed for 2 weeks except for work. Completely exhausted. This loss is so major for me and has sparked my anxiety. I have little to no support and I'm doing this on my own. I welcome any positive feedback. It's just been alot for me and I don't want to crumble as I have children who depend on me. I won't crumble because this is not anything new yet I'm perpetually sad as a result. Thanks for reading.
While I cannot imagine the pain of it being a twin, I have had to let go of my sister. It is indescribably painful especially as she and I were allies when very little and comforted each other when my narcissist mother was abusive. I have had to accept that she isn't that little girl anymore, but now turns on me and has gone further down the npd path than I have previously been able to admit to myself. But I have admitted it and I know I can't save her. I can only save myself. You are brave and have my sympathy.
I’m so sorry. Best of luck with taking control of your own life.
Richard-that was good!
@@mudskippa8958 Přijmout jaký je nebo odmítnout, třetí cesta není.
I’m so sorry for what you are experiencing… if it’s any comfort, I too have have a twin who despite me reaching out with love and kindness has just decided I’m dead to her due to her NPD. She exhibits all the signs that Richards speaks of in this video so I have peace knowing it really is not personal tho that’s incredibly hard to really accept. Only you know in your heart of hearts that you have staying loving and did nothing wrong and if that is true, that letting go really is the only way to keep peace for yourself. My door will always be open to her, I’ve accepted however, that most likely it will remain shut by her, not by me. Fill your life with other people who support and love you and lift you up and give you what you deserve which is nothing more then the goodness you give to others. One day at a time, it does get easier.
I've been nodding my head the entire time....truth!!!
Grief and sadness that this is my life. But great hope and strength. Thirty two years and three grown children later. Thank you.
thank you for being so direct with me!!! I needed to hear this so bad!!!! I'm a mother of an adult covert narcissist, I have to get him out of my home cause of constant abuse and violence to control me, I'm a senior citizen and he was supposed to be helping me!!! God help me be strong and escape this nightmare...
Thank you. I respect your tough love and direct approach. I left a long term narcassistic relationship which left me a zombie and with PTSD. It took 18months to come to the realisation that I was used and manipulated and my values completely disregarded, no matter my attempts to hold them to account. Silent treatment, hang ups, blatant disregards, triangulation.. So many flags... NEVER AGAIN.
You have helped me come to terms with the work that I need to do, my part in their sick games and how to get out.
I want to help the next victims, but noone will understand, the smear campaign was that good.
We understand you…as for the next victim you can’t teach them ‘the lesson.’ They have to find their own answers.❤️
BRILLIANT. ‘It’s what’s in room 101’
That’s been the problem all along. So clear. Thank you! 🙏🏻.
Wow! I got more out of this one video than from months of therapy and one session with a coach that was not a good fit. Lovely person, just not right for my needs.
Thank you. A great plan of action I needed. God bless you.
Wow, this is really profound Richard. The test makes so much sense because saying no will make a narcissist rage and smiling at them will also make them rage because they despise the sight of happy people. Their limited range of emotions makes them hate happy people feeling the happiness they cannot experience.
Also, it is true that getting back at them or exposing them is pointless. It really is not about them. It is all about improving yourself and your own life. Narcissists are deeply obsessed with stopping you from living well for a reason… because the success and flourishing of their victims is like anathema for them.
I’ve found just grey rocking them is best. My brother is a full blown NPD. The less you give them/show the better. No matter if they smear you, try to get a rise out of you, give mundane low-key boring answers and they’ll figure it out. They’ll always try to Hoover you back in and I just grey rock and it works. He’s 36 years old and has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old. One of the most superficial/fake/2 faced people I’ve ever met.
Thank you for mentioning not trying to get back at them. I've heard others talk about how they "get back", but to my mind its a narcissistic trait to be vindictive. I've learned that Karma takes over in her own time so it's important for me to stay on the right side.
This video is a reminder to why I went no contact and why I can’t feel bad. This video reminds me to remember my own values and to keep sticking to them, and for that I want to thank you for making this video.❤️
Flurry Payne,You are beautiful 😍,Hope you are not with a narcissist….
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Learning how to be disingenuous and learning I was actually in a game of chess that I hadn't agreed to were the 2 most important lessons for me. Thank you as always Richard 💜
I've been there. Every word so true. Thanks for this video. After 2 years of no contact, 1000 hours of videos about narcissism, a lot of grieving, intellectually understanding and moving forward with my own life, I couldn't agree more to your explanation.
I love this, Richard…..”anti-values.” I watched innumerable videos by you and others, and finally found this once serendipitously. I cannot tell you how this resonates, and I am proud to say I continue to move forward on MY terms and MY timeline. NO….MORE….BULLSHIT! 👊
The ending exercise is brilliant. So simple but so insightful. Thank you.
From experience, the icy-cold narcissistic stare is not just about intimidation - the person is also closely analyzing & studying you. And your interactions with family & others. They're sizing you up - your vulnerabilities & emotional weaknesses. So later they can use them against you. It's very uncomfortable & unsettling when it happens - believe it when you feel it. Don't dismiss it or shake it off as your imagination. It's not. Because if the acquaintanceship still exists in a few weeks or months, your relationships with others, & your life in general, will begin to go awry. Especially if the person has corrupt or criminal intentions - property thievery; money needs to be filled; marriage intentions for purely selfish financial gain & security.
This guy is right - you are not a human being to these types. You are merely an object to be used to fulfill their personal needs & wants; financial security. And when/if you can longer provide these things, or outright refuse to do it anymore, they no longer want or need you. And they will likely become hostile & ambivalent towards you as they seek new targets to control. Which can lead to devastating losses for their current victims, including loss of life, under the very worst situations.
My narc neighbour was doing this to my daughter..staring..sizeing her up..freaks me out😱
@@truth322 Trust your instincts. I don't know your situation but your neighbor may actually have their sights on you or your spouse. But they know your daughter is your "gate keeper". So they have to figure out how to get around her. Or remove her from the picture altogether. Which is what happened to me. I was cut from from my parent's life. And now finding out this person has been spreading horrible lies about me to those who know my parent in order to justify their nasty actions towards me. It's a horrible mess. Keep a close eye on your daughter's behavior & emotional state. And don't let anyone or anything said, heard or implied by this neighbor & others in your circle separate you. These types work from the outside-in.
I love how you are simplifying things for those of us dealing with these types of energies .
The part towards the end where we check in with our core values and make sure they are solid seems like something I can do to stay on track
With . Thankyou so much for all these moments of pure intention you share with us . Grateful for you 💞
Yes the waiting..... everything. Screaming, humiliation, tearing you apart if you don't so you're too scared not to. So many years of that