Shadowlands Afterlives: Bastion
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2020
- Uther the Lightbringer, Paladin of the Silver Hand, met an untimely demise ... but his service is not done. When he passes into the afterlife, Devos - a Paragon of Bastion - takes Uther under her wing, only to learn that some mortal wounds run deeper than she could imagine.
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Shadowlands: Soul stealing is a very serious crime
Warlocks and Death knights: *gulp*
Yeah, I might rethink becoming part of the Venthyr Covenant as Warlock and Deathknight. xD
Death Knights: Y'all hear sum?
its less soul stealing, and more permanent damage was delivered to the soul from a physical object.
Demon Hunters too, actually.
The impression I got was that Frostmourne wounded people's souls, which was an unforgivable act. Death knights just resurrect empty husks. Warlocks, however...
"There is no evil in Bastion" sounds a lot like "There is no war in Ba-Sing-Se"
I KNEW THAT SOUNDED FAMILIAR😂😂😂
I was like: "where have i heard this before"
There is no good. No evil. Only MORALLY GRAY.
You've been invited to Lake Laugai
What war?
LMAO, I'm rewatching Avatar, this is perfect
"What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
"Glad you could make it, Bluether"
"Alright, into the maw you go."
Underated comment
i laughed so hard
haha
lmao for a good min well played
dude I was sobbing a bit after him saying "He was my student" and then I read this lmfao, gg wp
What I'm worried about is one of the murlocs I've killed ascending and yeeting me into The Maw.
As it turns out, Murloc genocide is the only way to true salvation.
Murky will do it
lol you copied this exactly word by word from someone else's comment.
luckily they all go into the Maw, so don't worry, you 're safe
Murlocs go to their own realm
Sorry Uther, can't let you have him untill he drops Invincible.
true to that.
Have ur like good soul..
got it last week after on and off farming since WotLK
He will still be able to see him though so whats the point
@Francesco Salvia
it will be a 100% drop from Athas in shadowlands haha people will be mental!!
Do it throw him in
"I-i shouldn't... it's not the paladin way"
Dew it
It seems like Uther is now Anakin and this new order acts as Palpatine.
i had more of a isildur cast it into the fire vibe
-DESTROY HIM.
-NO
-UTHER!
"Yes, yeeees very good"
Loser 123 who tf donated to Blizz?? And for what? Corona? I never heard of this!
This cinematic is just way too good for this expansion.
Exactly 🤣
oof - it's true and it burns
Well said and observed!
The lore started off so strong and it crashed and burned worse than anyone could imagine
still remembering how hard this cinematic hyped me for the expansion...
When Uther hesitates. "He was.....my student." Gets me every time.
Dude, the artists NAILED his expressions there. The contemplation, the look of regret and consideration of mercy, then Devos whispering "Remember what he did and take your vengeance" and THEN the crazed look of wrath? 😗👌 I would watch these things for days if Blizz made more of them.
Right in the feels man.
@@shasta_creates I already am spamming them. It can't get any worse at this point.
Ahh yes, reminds me of the first two chapters of the human campaign of warcraft 3 RoC.
I think he wanted to say son
I honestly thought Uther wouldn't throw him. But dang he did.
Right? I thought they would be setting up some kind of redemption arc for Arthas. And honestly so pumped they didn't. Bring back the dark side of WoW.
JUSTICE
Bro, Arthas, even the control of Nerzhul, willingly let himself be used as a weapon of destruction. He killed his father, destroyed his kingdom, doomed most of the population to the curse of undeath, used the ash urn of his father as a way to revive Kel'Thuzad, killed his teacher, and then wounded/stop a part of his soul. Even after that, he kept seeking more destruction. Ik that Arthas' issue is very complex but his lack of will to resist taking the easy way out to save his people led him down a path where Uther's decision is justified.
Never liked Uther. IMO, he was always blind to everything that didn't align with his view of the world, and remained that way after death
@@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ What the blade did to Uther also happened to all other souls claimed by Frostmourne - So basically there are thousands of souls who were pierced by the blade.
I'm glad they're still using the original voice actor for Uther from Warcraft 3 even though it's been almost 20 years.
It's cool when companies do things like that. Beamdog invited David Warner to come back and reprise his role in Baldur's Gate: Siege at Dragonspear.
Made me want to squeal out how many lights I saw when I heard his voice.
Same in the German version 😍
Hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
Glad he could make it
Makes me wonder why they never got Arthas from Wc3 back for Wow
Mom: You won't even feel the injection
The kid in the next room: 3:33
oh god
BRUH every time I take my kids for their shots....some Uther down the hall....
Oh lord, I'm getting flashbacks now!
As a nurse I have to admit that this is the best joke I have ever heared :)))))))))))))))))))
Went through the same
3:34
Legit, that scream from Uther when it cuts back to him being murdered, it’s so spine chilling. So well done. Props to that voice actor.
they say they killed a man irl to make it more realistic
The only other memorable death scream I can think of is Raziel from Legacy of Kain, in the abyss.
Not only murdered, but having his soul ripped in half. The VA nailed the scream right on the head
@@bleakraven Yeeeeeeesssss, that's first one i ever took notice of, as "dang, nice scream bro" when i was a kid
Let's hope he doesn't get cancelled anytime soon
"He was... *MY* student..."
God bless Michael McConnohie for the voice of Uther. That shriek of pain as his soul was torn apart and the dramatic emphasis he puts into the lines adds so much weight to everything that is said.
Michael McConnohie is the man who voiced him dating back to WC3.
💯
I think Uther is realizing deep down he is making a mistake as he trained arthas and as such it was his failure that led to Arthas falling. Remember Arthas' own soul was stolen by frostmourne and he was not incontrol of his actions afterwards.
@@krel3358 no doubt we'll be going to the maw the try and redeem Arthas's soul
Not only a student, he consider Arthas as his own nephew
"Remember, Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do. If we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, then we will become as vile as the Orcs."
He got real PTSD
Yet vengeance is inseparable part of a paladin's way.
It's not vengeance. It's justice!
What Arthas did on his first expedition in Northrend to hunt down Mal'Ganis called vengeance as well.
Faaacts!~
He lose half soul, he's half uther, he's lost! (My english sucks, sorry u.u)
Devos: Your soul is wounded?
Illidan: Tis' but a scratch
I am my scars!
'tis only a soul wound!
Yeeeeee.
"Remember Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do"
-Uther, wc3
They sacrified the warcraft soul for the money. They know people are still nostalgic for w3 and Arthas story, so they will milk it as much as possible.
"No..not vangeance, JUSTICE"
I hope the soul of Uther that was trapped in the blade, manages to meet up with this broken Uther, and convince him to do what he (the trapped) did: Forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was, and not the monster he became.
Since they showed in this cinematic that his soul was split, I still have hope.
@@0That_Guy0 he did justice not vengueance
@@Itachixg Just because he calls it justice, doesn't mean it is justice. He made it personal, and you can't judge anything right when you make it personal - That's also the point with the Bastion and their teachings from what we know so far. This broken Uther and his paragon buddy are taking "justice" into their own hands, and dealing out judgement as they see fit from their personal point of view. Uther calls it "justice", but that's simply to excuse and justify his lust for vengeance. It's a very typical and human thing to do.
You also see Uther struggling with the choice right before he drops him, but the paragon is seething with hate and urges him to throw Arthas into the Maw. She's kind of the Devil on his shoulder. The part of Uther struggling with condemning Arthas was basically the part that won out in the Uther trapped in Frostmourne; the part that chose to forgive and forget. Judgement was not for him to decide.
The Uther in Frostmourne stayed true to the way of a Paladin of the Light, whilst the Uther in Bastion got screwed by his own Paragon and led on a path of vengeance.
"Remember, Arthas. We are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do."
Uther -2002
Justice tho 👌🏻
Retribution, guys 😉
But justices demands retribution!
Man, I love where Uther’s story is going! I love that they’re giving him additional character growth and flaws that actually make sense with his story. I really like this turn of events.
LOL. Okay. Sure. "Strike with great vengeance!" ~ totally not uther 2003 (warcraft 3)
5:18 ... even after all these years since ICC the theme (Invincible) still hits like a ton of bricks
Somethings can't and won't die. He ll come back...I can feel it.
I still get tingles down my spine and goosebumps on my arms whenever I hear it....that deep....graceful orchestral music of gentle malevolence is just....mph....chilling.
Lament of the highborne for me
My son..
Seeing arthas lying there uttering his last words made me cry 😭
Devos: Your soul is wounded?!
Uther: I AM MY SCARS!!!
Uhh, i think it's a wrong uther 🤣🤣
IM crying LMAO
Know someone who know this feelin.
Illidan: nice
Thought they retconned at first but you can see one part of his soul going into the blade and another going to Shadowlands. We meet the soul fragment in the blade in Icecrown during WotLK and here we see the other part. Looks like something similar to Varian's soulsplit happened here where the two fragments take on different personalities as the fragment within the blade ended up forgiving Arthas and the part that went to Bastion was hellbent on revenge. That's why he couldn't ascend. The part of him that should've made it possible was missing.
Interesting theory..... I'm liking this comment. It deserves to be on the top.
I wonder if there's 2x parts to Sylvanna's soul?
I’m thinking it’s part of him being a Paladin. He was filled with such light power to put up a strong fight against Arthas. Maybe his connection to the light was strong enough that it split his soul when he was killed with frostmourne
Exactly what I was thinking.
To add on this basis, I believe Ner'zhul created Death Knights from Paladins exactly of this reason - because some Paladins like Uther could not be completely consumed by the Lich King at all due to Light. Probably the Eredar that made Ner'zhul into Lich King knew this too. So unable to convert Paladins into his own he had to convert them into creatures of Vengeance, Death Knights.
I thought his soul was split into light and "anima stuff", and went to the shadowlands after the blade was broken ( time is different there so...), would make sense a shadowlands related item only being able to capture a "shadowlands intended thing" the soul I mean.
Arthas: I wonder if he forgives me
Uther: *YEET*
LMAO!!!!! 10/10
🤣🤣🤣
DUDE hahahahahahahahahha
As he falls down: It was just a prank broooooooooooo.....
lmao
Uther: "He was my student."
Devos: "Remember what he did, and take your revenge."
Uther: "WHAT? HOW CAN YOU CONSIDER THAT, ITS GOTTA BE SOME OTHER WAY."
HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND, DEVOS?
6:25 Unlike Invincible, Arthas did drop.
this comment is underrated
Clap clap clap
Insert "Shia Lebouf in the theater slowly clapping" scene.
The way he says "He was my student" conveys so much hurt & feelings of betrayal, it hurts my heart. That's some top notch voice acting right there!
When he says it after Devos sees the Arthas vision nearly breaks me. I feel Uthers VA must've put some real pain into that line, because oof.
agreed
He is indeed a great voice actor. If I'm not mistaken, it's Michael McConnohie. He also voices the Lich King ironically.
@@INNIPIE looking him up, he also did Deathwing, Magni, and Kel'thuzad. But dude, he's been in the anime industry since the freaking 80s. Man has quite the repertoire.
@@Dimumouto yea he's fantastic, one of my favourite.
Those musical callbacks to "Invincible" peeking through gave me uncontrollable goosebumps every time...
To me too, the musical piece is excellent.
Same. I even cried Sharm. Cried!
-by Vardulis
F A T H E R I S I T O V E R ?
Sharm
I know, it was so perfectly implemented. Even if you hate everything else, I don’t think anyone could deny that these cinematics they make are prefect
Uther's voice actor is just awesome, the way he sounds whenever he remembered what Arthas did was heartbreaking.
Also the scream when he is being killed... damm
I'm so happy Michael McConnohie has remained Uther's VA since WC3. I love the gravitas he brings to every line.
He sounds pretty bad imho.
@@zzBaBzz beauty is in the eye of the beholder, sir.
Probably you find other VA’s much more appealing and it’s totally respectable. What voices have you liked before? Probably that’s why you don’t like Uther’s, because he’s not the kind of actors you usually enjoy listening to 🤔
@@johanurdiales7356 It's very much objective. :-)
Original Uther voice actually suits him. This one is your typical low budget constipated neverlettingtheirteethseparate growlers. No depth, no range.
The same change they did to Illidan's voice. Travesty.
Seeing Arthas in such detail, aged with stubble, scars and bags under his eyes really gives perspective of time in this game
I agree, also the decay of bearing that burden. It's so beautiful. They seem to always nail the story when it comes to Arthas' arc. So much love put into it, and it really shows. Part of me always wants Arthas to be part of the story, but I know times change, and we can't beat that dead horse forever.
What do you mean "aged," he died when he first put on the Helm of Domination.
He is portrayed with bags under his eyes since warcraft 3 lol, since he became corrupted by the Frostmourne
@@Riwillion not really lol
The recontextualization of the "I see only darkness before me." line was chilling.
Agreed, this is the kind of retcon that I can totally approve of
That's not a retcon, people don't even know what retcon means smh
@@Mandrarine Definition of retcon from google: (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.
This is literally a retcon.
@@MrSelkies can you really consider it a retcon when we never really knew what happened with Arthas' soul when he died? I feel like this just added more context to it. I kind of see it as the cliche where, if you dont actually see a character die, then that just leaves room to add something later or just leave them "dead".
@@ianhorne9594 If Blizzard planned out this story-line back during WotLK, then it isn't a retcon. If this is something they came up with recently then it is. Pretty sure they came up with this recently.
That scream Uther let’s out when Frostmourne pierces his chest is horrifying.
I was thinking that. Never heard such a cry of agony.
@@Soulrenderxz vesemirs death in the witcher 3
Bith are equally chilling
Uther's VA is fantastic at what he does
For those whom may not know, he's also the VA for Kel'thu-freaking-zad, among a handful of others I won't spoil here ;)
GODLIKE voice acting
And I thought stubbing a toe was painful
Death knight armed with the blades of the fallen prince: "The power of the maw in hand, you say? Runes, you say? Oh, gosh. Um. That would be real bad, wouldn't it." *shifts awkwardly, hides runeblades*
What me? Nah, I'm good haha, don't worry *secretly throws runeblades into the maw*
*Shoos deathcharger away out of sight*
Meanwhile, my Death Knight in the Maw: Okay, time to get you fixed! Starts reforging Frostmourne properly.
"Where....where am I?"
*"Welcome to the Nexus, hero!"*
*THIS ENTIRE BASTION MUST BE PURGED*
- Arthas 2020
Make the Shadowlands great again
lol for their blind stupidity ? indeed purge is in order
Arthas
Imagine him getting corrupted again and destroying the bastion. I feel like blizzard is giving a reason to have him come back.
@@bushka1172 late game redemption arc, maybe.
"Do you have anything to say for yourself boy?"
"GLAD YOU COULD BAKE IT UTHER"
"okay into the Maw you go"
BLUETHER
*ding*
It's done!
Oh gosh it is so late in germany but I'm sitting in my flat right now, laughing way to hard.
I am pretty sure at least ONE of my neighbours heard me! xDDDDD
@Loser 123 yeah, and water is wet
HAhahaa! I like this
Turns out this was pure lore bait. 9.2 did Arthas dirty.
fr
Context
YOU SHALL NOT FALL TODAY MY KING
35 anima btw
At 3:17, remember Warcraft 3 when Muradin read the Inscription of Frostmourne. It literally was talking about scarring the Soul of its victims.
"Tyrael, Archangel of Justice liked this video."
Oh man I hope Tyrael is like a hidden, unannounced reveal in this expansion.
@Loser 123 Good, keep politics out of video games :)
@Loser 123 Do you get one for saying Biden 2020? If so then it's all good.
You know... what if bastion isn't heaven but is a plane of heaven like in diablo. Like a archmage plane.
That was not Justice. Tyrael'd never approve that decision.
"There is no evil here."
"There is no war in Ba Sing Se."
You know a week ago I wouldn't have got that but now.................I understand
@@thelordoftimekirk6317 welcome to the people who know 😥
Uhhh. I understand that now :D
"No one is conscripting airbenders in Ba Sing Se"
Thought the same line too. Love Avatar.
This is beyond sad. The part of Uther's soul that was trapped within Frostmourne chose to forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was and not the monster he became. I hope the two souls of Uther meet up somehow, and that this broken Uther will be mended/convinced by the Uther from the blade; and to let go.
this comment aged well
@@ChilliDogDavewhat happened ???
@@rathzo1800 Bad Uther betrayed the bad guys after finding out they were serving the Maw, finds out his soul is split, the players help him join his fragmented soul, he relives his death, and then joins the blue people
They should've done so much more with Devos. She along with Denathrius were the two big highlights of the xpac, and they were both taken out waaay too early.
On the brightside Denathrius has been kept alive so he will return.
it's even worse than this - players who were never Kyrian barely even know who Devos was. Absolutely criminal.
They killed off Devos and admitted she was right smh
What about Nathanos the Forgotten ? x)
Arthas while falling into the maw "Icecrown was merely a setback!"
man of culture
Naxxanar was merely a setback. With the Power of the Orb valanar shall get his vengeance xD
As soon as we get Shadowlands Afterlives: Ravendreth we can look forward to a lot more of that meme.
They placed one of the most powerful death knights in the maw? These night lamps called the Kyrians are not very smart.
Frostmourne is gone.
"I see ...only darkness before m-...no wait it's Uther and a flying angel!"
Tirion and Raid: "wtf is he talking about"
@xoobo vola reusing old beloved characters looks more like an act of desperation imo
He saw the maw, not the spirit healers, they straight up teleported back into the empty space in the shadowlands and flew a little to the maw. Uther also saw Bastion and not his angel that ferried him
@@Azureght I like it, the new ones suck anyways .... nostalgia time
@@Azureght Well, what would make more sense if you go into the realm of the dead?
5:22 I was 11 the first time I heard this theme. I am 22 now. It's existed for half of my lifetime and it still gives me goosebumps :]
Same :)
Relatable
I just hate what we have to do to Devos, and so early in expansion... Such a great character!
Underrated comment. Devos was indeed a great character.
Another example of the cinematic team carrying the whole franchise
3:34 that scream tho. they murdered the man live in studio.
Imagine if they redid the cinematic in Warcraft 3 and had that scream in it.
axe to the head lol
It almost makes me cry. It's so good
we don't talk about that
"He was my student" said Uther calmly and with love as he yeeted Arthas into cosmic oblivion.
"cAlMly"
YEET!!
Jesus this has me HOWLING
Then again even though art has story is sad and all, he did deserve going to the maw
YES!!! Best line ever!
“The moment he falls”. That line sticks with me, I love the sheer confidence that eventually he will fail.
"No king rules forever, my son."
Not "fall", but he WILL eventually fall.
2:50 this Voice Actor.... his trembling voice.... such a good Job!!
And the music is beautiful
Uther: He was...he was my student-
Arthas: i still wont drop invincible-
Uther: *drops him*
And shadowmourne
@@deathmamba6159 shadow mourns is a quest line not a boss drop
Uh justice
I cackled at this
DeathMamba yeah shadowmourne requires a quest line that has parts that cannot be soloed.
This is the first time Arthas hasn't had a neck like a tree trunk and actually looks like a human being. I like it!
How else could you animate uther to hold his neck if arthas had his Chad neck xD
911 = Inside Job (No Planes)
Building 7 ?
@@jeremyleclerc127 True. lol
@@theyredistortingyourrhthym8883 fkn what
@@GuvernorDave Missile only fits in pentagon aswell
No plane there
That “epic orchestral music” subtitle killed all the drama and made me smile
"Uther..."
"Where... Where am I"
"Welcome to Uber for good people, and you're going to be driving."
"he was my student" I don't know why, but it brings a tear to my eyes
I mean, Regardless of what Arthas did. He was still Uther's finest student. That kind of connection is never lost no matter what happens.
Obi-Wan know that u_u
Makes me wonder at all if Blizzard tries to expand on Arthas and make him regret his actions. Sure, the books said he meant to do all that, but it's not like the books have ever been acknowledged in the game before.
We dont know too...
The only thing I would do to add onto this would have been a single moment of Uther hugging Arthas before casting him away with "He was my student" since he was basically a parental figure to Arthas.
"We may never know, Uther. I intend to live forever."
Bro, was just remembering that line as Uther died.
an karanir thanagor
Players: Say sike right now
they could add this line its very wasted opurnity
Well, that's what he intended, doesn't mean that he will live forever.
everytime i watch this, when Devos asks *WHO DID THIS TO YOU?* and it flashbacks, i get chills of nostalgia
And they turned him into 35 anima.
"Uther..."
"Where..where am I?"
"Welcome to Overwatch"
I thought eternal suffering means Heroes of the Storm
@@LycheusDow Exactly
@@LycheusDow Yes
''HEROES OF THE STORM!''
@@El_Crazyknight Uther never deserved to suffer he gave his life for the innocents!
"Who did this to you!?"
*MOM MODE ENGAGED*
she went full commando mom
Ayethe camomdo
RET CON MODE ENGAGED
*CRYING CAT FACE*
"H- He was my _sniff_ student!"
RED ALERT SOVIET MARCH. ._.)
"he murdered my people" well you did kinda just stand by and let him do that instead of, you know, try to stop him.
IM DEAD 💀
He knew it had to be done but he also knew he couldn't bring himself to do it
Hence the choice to walk away
It's an extremely sticky situation - You either
1)Betray the crown prince, essentially commit treason, and thus cause the blight to spread across Azeroth, killing everyone'
or the much easier choice
2)Walk away
"What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
"Glad you could make it, Bluether"
"Alright, into the maw you go."
But really, deep down we all know that Uther knew that Arthas was spitting straight facts. He had to raze Stratholme to rubble before the people got bitey and infectious.
He was talking about the whole of lordaeron
Surely there is no way dropping Arthas into the Maw will backfire in any way shape or form.
a way for Blizzard to try and bring Arthas back I guess?
Obviously. ;-)
@@billylee4460 Redemption arc hands down Arthas should have his whole soul now since frostmourne was destroyed.
@@billylee4460 and like Illidan, he will come back as a good guy/hero.
@@thebl4ckd0g illidan has always been the good guy, but that would be cool to see arthas back on the good side
When he says "He was my student"
There is so much pain and anger at the same time.
I feel much anguish in his voice, like he is sad for the path arthas took
For a moment I thought he wouldn't drop him, and wish this happened to see what could happen then
I think there was some self-reflection in those words. In a sense, Uther's motivation to punish Arthas is the same mindset that drove Arthas to Northrend in the first place (in pursuit of justice). Whether it was right or wrong is subjective, but I definitely feel like Uther was taking some responsibility there.
Simillar with Obi-Wan and Anakin
Tearjerking
And this cinematic is the last time we will ever see Arthas again... That ball of anima doesn't count.
True
True
Arthas was not a villain.
He was a hero of the Alliance, who unfortunately fell to the plans of the Lich King.
Mal'ganis forced his hand in Stratholme. What options would you have taken? The villagers had already eaten the infected grain and they were sure to turn into zombies. There were only two options. Let them turn into undead, fight them and lose your men? Or put the civilians to the sword, granting them a quick and swift death?
After that, others had lost hope on him. Jaina Proudmoore, Uther the Lightbringer and the knights of the silver hand. Unjustly so even, they did not know what Arthas Menethil knew, what the Scourge could do to his people.
All their suggestions were that there had to be another way, but in fact they could not come up with a plan. They did not understand the pain and sorrow Arthas had to go through with the only plan they had in hand during that one crucial moment. There was no moment of joy, when you kill your own people that you devote yourself to protect as a paladin of the holy light. There was no cure for the plague, there was no 2nd plans. Just that 1 plan, which worked, but was deemed horrible.
After Stratholme Arthas travelled to Northrend, with his trustworthy captain and men who had been with Arthas the whole journey, whom had seen what the Scourge could do, they understood very well what they were doing in Northrend. To hunt down Mal'ganis, and the Scourge.
Upon arrival to the frozen wastelands, he met up with Muradin Bronzebeard. He rescued Muradin and his men, who then joined Arthas' quest for the hunt of Mal'ganis.
They fought bravely in Northrend, even so that they were running out of time and resources. King Terenas had ordered Arthas to return home, after being persuaded by Uther the Lightbringer. Again, no support for Arthas. Instead, they had to come up with the gruesome plan, to hire mercenaries, to burn down their own ships. THE SHIPS! Not the men, but the SHIPS! Alas, the mercenaries were blamed and killed. Arthas did not sacrifice his own men, but the ships and the mercenaries. Arthas did not kill his own people, some of them were even left behind, but not killed. The rest pushed forward, for they were closing in the hunt for Mal'ganis. Should there have been no need to call the ships back, the mercenaries and the ships could have been spared, but alas there were no options. There was no guarantee of a plan, there was no guarantee that the Scourge wouldn't strike at Lordaeron after the hunt for Mal'ganis would have been cancelled. If the King himself would have showed up, it might have changed the situation, since then the king himself would have seen what Arthas had seen, but that was not the case. Instead Uther, who had no plan for the Scourge, had convinced the king that Arthas should return. Instead of urging the king to send backup or help, it is understandable to see Arthas being felt betrayed.
Then the time finally came, Arthas met up with Mal'ganis and his huge undead forces. But alas, Arthas, who had no support from his one and only father, who had no support from his mentor, who had no support from his beloved, had to only rely on his men and their new friends the dwarves, it still was not enough. Even with the mighty Muradin Bronzebeard by his side, they stood no chance. They were about to be all killed by the Scourge. It was that time, when Muradin remembered of a sword that might save them. And again, seeing it as their only hope, their only plan, they went seeking for the sword. They left their forces to defend their base, and went together to look for the sword.
In the cave, there it was, the runeblade Frostmourne. Upon closer look, Muradin read the warnings and beckoned Arthas to forget about the sword. Sadly, Arthas yet again with no options. Took the sword. Else they would have all died and turned into undead. There was no other way, same situation as in Stratholme. So down the rabbit hole they went. Arthas took Frostmourne as his own and upon taking it, Muradin was knocked down by the power of the sword. Again Arthas was not the one who wanted to hurt his friend. He also did not kill his friend, he did leave him behind, for he had to rescue his men and at that point the corruption of the sword started to take a hold of Arthas.
Upon returning to the camp, the captain and his men clearly noticed a change in him, as well as questioned Muradin's whereabouts. But none of it mattered, they were under constant attack of the Scourge, it was that time or never, to finish what they started and end Mal'ganis.
And end Mal'ganis they did. They had accomplished what they had came for., at a heavy cost yes. But a deed that no one else could have accomplished. For that, he is a true hero of Alliance, he suffered much, but he did not falter. Was he a villain? In my eyes no. Would a villain really go that far for his people? Would a villain put his own life at stake and also fight alongside his men till the very reaches of the frozen ends of the world?
Was he a brilliant hero? No. He was a paladin we all admired him for. It was a fool's errand to go to Northrend. A death wish. But again, there was no other choice at that time. He had no allies left.
Should he have had the full might of the Alliance with him, they would have been able to destroy the Scourge and Mal'ganis while the Scourge was still in an early stage of gathering forces.
Regardless, after the deed was done, he returned to his home in Lordaeron. The mission was completed, Mal'ganis was put to the blade. The Scourge was thought to be defeated and King Terenas was happy to see his son return from the frozen wastes as any father would see their son return from war.
Sadly, people who enter wars, don't return the same. More so, the corruption of Frostmourne had already taken over Arthas. It was clear, it was clear to everyone, that this was not the same man who once fought for his people. And the outcome was gruesome.
From that point it was downhill. All the way up to Icecrown and it's end.
But along it's way, we saw the memento to Jaina that Arthas had. He cared for her.
We saw the memento he had for his father. He cared for him.
We saw him going to the extremes of separating his heart from his body.
We saw him trying to wrestle for the control of his mind, he was not alone, he was under corruption of a dark force.
We saw him descend into madness, with no help to be found.
He had even resurrected his own horse for he had nothing else.
He was alone. Surrounded by the cold tall saronite metal fortress. Surrounded by his undead army. Surrounded by the dark whispers. And then he was surrounded by us.
All that was left was hate and anger towards Arthas. Revenge was what drove people to Northrend, to put an end to the now-sitting Lich King, but at the same time forgetting or not knowing that Arthas had been a victim, still we treated him the same as the Lich King. It was merely a puppet show.
I always hoped he could have been saved. I always saw that there was no villain, just a hero who had fallen victim and was unable to help himself. All we did was put him to the sword. In a way, we did help him in the end. By freeing him from the corruption. But I always felt like what we did, was no different from what Arthas did originally.
We had but 1 choice just like Arthas, and while it seemed to solve the problem, it didn't feel right to me. To me it was a failure. We had secured Northrend, but we failed to see what was behind it.
Should we have been with him? Absolutely, we all did the WotLK expansion, why wouldn't we have fought in the frontlines with Arthas himself and his men in the first place? Instead we sadly joined the party when it was already too late and we had lost Arthas to the Lich King.
As Shadowlands aproaches.... I am re-doing WotLK. And I still hope, we could have saved Arthas. And I still hope, it isn't too late.
In short, he was just a typical greek tragic hero. A hero who had an unchecked human flaw that ultimately led to his demise. A relentless desire for revenge.
The sad part is that he was freed by death only to get his freedom stolen, Uther bypassed the Arbiter and sent him back to the very person that mindfucked him, the Jailer, to be tortured for anima for eternity. If he had been sent to the Arbiter he wouldnt end up in the Maw, heck he probably was fit for Bastion as he lived a selfless life and would most likely want to forget, this is supported by the fact that his soul in the Maw had the form of a child.
@elviade Arthus was corrupted, the moment he took Frostmourne, he was no longer himself. His soul was stolen, that was the curse of wielding it, he was entirely ignorant and stubborn to realize. He thought he could bear any curse to save his people, but the curse would cause him to kill them.
Also the dreadlords are masters of psychological manipulation and corruption. It was them who even twisted the mind of the Titan Sargeras after countless ages of him destroying demons following his task as a Titans, his encounter with the dreadlords eventually twisted his psyche making him the mad titan.
@elviade Trust me, if Arthas wanted to be evil, he had many chances to do it, but in the end he didn't do it. After he claimed Frostmourne it's a whole other story.
There was no evil intentions, Jaina Proudmoore was aware of the grain infection as well as Uther The Lightbringer, but they were unable to do anything about it. In the end, at the undead campaign they were still unable to do anything about it and it wasn't until WotLK that there was any success against the Scourge, but at that point it was many years too late.
They had over 5 years to do something about it, but they never managed to do anything. ´
And even now in Shadowlands we are still fighting the undead.
@@Lo7q7le7guste7mrtf You're forgetting the mercs he hired to strand his only people in a desolate wasteland, then betrayed said mercs to have them killed by those soldiers he had stranded. You can claim 'good intentions' all you like, but he was definitely committing evil acts. Most monsters justify their evil with good intentions. I mean, you could argue the legion is the ultimate good for not wanting the universe to succumb to the void, and that by trying to stop it Arthas was being evil.
When we meet this Archon, I hope it'll say "power overwhelming"
good one!
En Taro Tassadar!
foor aiour
My life for Aiur! ... I mean, Ner'zhul!
You made me lol. Ty.
Can't believe it's been 12 years since we first heard and saw "I see only darkness before me" and now they showed us the true meaning behind it, the kid in me who nolifed WOTLK just got crazy chills.
me too man it pains me when people say retconned etc beacuse this is just flat out great long-term story telling all the pieces coming together.
I KNOOWW RIIIGHT??!?!
its not true meaning behind it, they just came up with it couple years ago and rewrite evrything.
I was like:" it's big brain time"
It was mind-blowing hearing that quote once more
@@Demmortal they obviously had a plan bruh
"Light,save my soul!" is haunting me.Amazing line!!
All those emotions in the line " He was my student" are heartbreaking and sends chills down my spine every time i listen to it.
Shadowland’s citizens: What cha got there?
DKs with their weapon transmoged to the Blades of the Fallen Prince: Smoothie
An icarley meme? Nice! Also : GIBBY!!!
I hope there is an easter egg of some kind when you are showing that weapon appearance or if you take them to someone.
I mean, Arthas definitely did a Gibby from Uthers hand
Conner360 that was my childhood right there
We fight for the maw king now 😈
Can we take a moment to appreciate Michael McConnohie as a voice actor?
That scream when his soul is riped!!
Chilling indeed
@@Xivix427 and the arthas music in the back!! can't wait for someone to put just the music up
@Nicolai Larsen yes, "Arthas, my son" but clearly different version, trust me i have a hear for Warcraft music
I know! That's like Attack on Titan-level voice acting right there.
That scream was nice, but nothing will ever beat varians death scream :D
Ugh, the voice actors and music are so good. EVERYTHING is so Pog
This single video is better than the whole expansion!
Everyone: Nah Uther won't kill him
Uther: GOODBYEEE JOJOOO
Kill ??
@@shankarpandey5047 I meant drop but whatever the joke still works
I wasnt ready for JoJo reference here but goddamm xDDDDDDDDDD
Good grief.
You thought I was Uther, BUT IT WAS ME DIO!
“He continues to demand retribution for his death...” “And this concerns you? I mean, he is a Retribution Pally, that’s kinda their thing...”
Maybee witha good group hé wouldn t have died 😊
@@Darkandi457 maybe he tried retri tank a lot :D
@@lukasmakula7781 wrong stuff again ahhahaha
Uther had the Libram of Justice. It was Tirion who was given the Libram of Retribution.
@@nimander5483 Justice demands retribution!
Probably the most heartbreaking of these four animations. 😢
So umm... how serious do you think Devos still is about this whole, "throwing people in the maw for soul tampering" thing? As a warlock who basically always has someone in a gem, I'm hoping she's relaxed that policy by now.
It's fine we're the PC we get called hero even if we're rotting and holding a clearly evil weapon. Besides what's she gonna do? Their worst punishment is apparently something we're naturally immune to.
@@noonenowhere877 reminds me of Destiny when people are talking about evil items and we're just here packing multiple evil relics and gods as weapons
Soul damaging, and it was more the Maw she was worried about.
She looks like one of those characters who find some sort of flaw in their beliefs and end up obsessing over it until it leads them astray
"you were suposed to destroy the undead, not join them!"
Uther : My powers has doubled since the last time we met, Arthas
@@danielblitzke3909 "strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you could ever imagine"
Dame da ne
He was the best Paladin in Azeroth, and a cunning warrior. And he was a good friend
@c0smic nice Star Wars refference :D
"His eternal suffering awaits!"
Ah, so there's Heroes of the Storm down there.
To think about it, the maw did remind me of the nexus a little bit :D
Also Starcraft Ghosts
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Hahahaha best comment ever bro omg this made my day
Lul
Really is concerning for the over-all story of Shadowlands when Devos, a character introduced through the first afterlives video is basically a dungeon boss and not a shred of it is explained in-game. She just randomly decided to work for the jailer after finding out what the Maw's power did to Uther? It's just really dumb.
Jailer did nothing wrong lol
Devos had so much potencial, her character could be really awesome. They had no need to oof her that early
This was the best cinematic blizzard has ever done in my opinion, the voice actors are awsome, musics on the background is amazing, lines of the characters are just so in place, Im even more hyped than I was for wotlk back in the day.
"Remember Arthas, we are Paladins ! Vengeance cannot be a part of what we do."
- Uther, Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos, Human Campaign chapter 2.
He should said that to burn Uther even more. Too bad he's unconscious.
how many times to repeat - justice, not vengeance :)
look another one made it to the water-scrollsage Nola
he said justice, so therefore his action are resonable
I guess Uther wasn't a paladin anymore after he DIED...
Be careful who you stab with a soul-stealing blade in high-school.
ON GOD ! >:]
@@sylvanaswindrunner3757 Nice profile picture
@@maximososa8798 Thank you bébé, I pulled my best smile. ☺
@@sylvanaswindrunner3757 WHy dO YoU BuRn tHe TrEe?!
@@sonicomegamaster4223 What tree? I don't know anything about any trees (?
"Justice".. thats a funny way of saying *vengeance*
noh no vengeanc justishe
well no but actualy yes :D
it was justice. All must answer for their crimes.
Arthas killed hundreds of thousands of his own people in the most horrific ways. Despite Uther's moral conflict, Arthas in the Maw is justice.
Vengeance can still be justice
5:26 - That music. It is always great to hear Arthas, My Son. One of my favorite tracks in WoW history!
Uther’s scream as he’s impaled by Frostmourne and his soul leaving his body is chilling to the bone 🥶🥶
Grama Alexandru i know 😭
It honestly sounded like they pulled Michael McConnohie's soul from his body to get that scream.
Reminds me of Varian's scream as he was disintegrated. Actual, legitimate pain in those screams.
That voice. was so perfect. It truly captures how forsaken and pained he felt at that moment.
It's so chilling having something so horrible happen to a good man. Uther represented the ideals of Lordaeron, and the gentle strength of the Light. He didn't deserve this, which makes his pain cut all the more deeply.
@@ianwhelan-miller90 no one deserved that not even Arthas who got controlled
The scene where Arthas is just laying there gives me goosebumps.
With the Arthas/WotLK theme music callback? So good.
@@rachaelsims6625 Back when they game was actually good.
@@rachaelsims6625 I got goosebumps when that musical piece started, in the very first second of vocals. So iconic. 10 years of a storyline coming to and end and they could not have used a better piece. It just communicates everything it should. Sorrow, regret, resolution, and how far we've come. This was one of the most moving lore-related thing Blizzard has released in a long time, no surprise it's a WotLK callback.
Going back and watching the fall of the lich king cinematic knowing everything we know now brings up all the feels
He deserved it that rat
3:31 thrills. The sound, the scream, everything is perfectly sad.
06:06 "He was... my student." Right in the feels every time.
Everyone: "So Bastion are the good guys, right?"
Blizzard:
Yeah def a 180 there
@@Adradiauwu definitely the good guys.
I reckon they are still the good guys, only with rigid outdated ways
The world is multidimensional. Grow up kids, it’s not a two-side coin 🤣🤣
Let’s defeat the Archon 🤣
YOU WERE MY BROTHER ARTHAS!!!
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE UNDEAD, NOT JOIN THEM
I HATE YOU!
But Uther had the low ground
@@NitroPulsar But he had the MORAL HIGHGROUND.
Uther considers Arthas as his own nephew
It's over, Arthas! I have Consecration!
This on of the best Shadowlands Afterlives Cinematics. in My opionon
this cinematic was the single best thing to come out of that entire expansion. Which is quite depressing to say the least.
Got goosebumps when the lich kings music started playing.
Samee
Absolutely, brings back memories ...
After not playing BfA after the first raid, this made me pre-purchase the expansion. Blizzard knows how to trigger, for sure. The same as in the Realm Of Torment cinematic.
Yeah man, the most climatic music ever
An Karanir Thanagor
"There is no evil in Bastion"
Jailer: "Bonjour"
Jailer is in THE MAW< not Bastion
in the shadowlands
Le Jailleur! I neaux it beaufaire I could smelle jeure stenche! Sou jeu ars behinde suisse! >:O
Jailer isn’t bad, he’s a natural being that was betrayed
@@Wayclarke The Jailer in french is le Geôlier.
+ Now, cast him into the maw!
- ...... No :)
+ ISILDUUUUR!!!1!!
6:04 seeing arthas like this always makes me cry a bit
Batman: "I am vengeance."
Uther: "Not vengeance... Justice."
He’s both. Also the night.
@@TheClarkBark You beat me to it! i was so gonna say I am the night... I am Batman!!!!!
You speak of justice, of cowardice?
I will show you the justice of the grave, and the true meaning.. of fear!
@@Themperror1 Jesus!!!
Tyrael would be proud
0:16 wait a minute, you can't train abominations in this mission
Lmao good point.
Either that or one those footmen/knights must've been really tall.
straight facts right here
Uther can Arthas was stupid
AnOtHeR bLizZaRd InCoNsIsTeNcY!
That music transition at 0:33 is PERFECT OMG
Man poor Arthas, all he wanted to do was save his kingdom
Side note: this IS Uther’s voice actor from Warcraft III you’re not mistaken.
Upon further research, the voice actor’s a powerhouse(face it, which voice actor in these video games and shows isn’t one?) but he’s voices kel thuzad, uther in war3 and the expansions when they revisit those characters and even the lich king throughout Wrath and deathwing too!
It’s crazy awesome how long this guy’s been at it!
Also warriv in diablo 2
K Karall That, and the Necromancer.
"Your curiosity will be the death of you." KT
Holy smokes, I never would have known they were all the same person. I'm gonna listen out for it now. The only one I really recognize doing multiple characters is Jim Cummings, the guy that voiced Winnie the Pooh.. I know they use him in World of Warcraft a LOT.
@@kristenkidd3982 Steve Blum, Jennifer Hale, Phil Lamarr and Chris Metzen probably voice half of WoW XD
"I see.. A big blue woman... Before me..."
"I see... only wokeness... before me..."
I laughed too hard idk why
I seriously couldn’t stop laughing when I read this 🤣
"No King survives on res sickness, my son"
@@Lunsterful so right