Shadowlands Afterlives: Bastion

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

Комментарии • 9 тыс.

  • @Masteph93
    @Masteph93 4 года назад +2254

    "He was... *MY* student..."
    God bless Michael McConnohie for the voice of Uther. That shriek of pain as his soul was torn apart and the dramatic emphasis he puts into the lines adds so much weight to everything that is said.

    • @emeraldcrusade5016
      @emeraldcrusade5016 4 года назад +75

      Michael McConnohie is the man who voiced him dating back to WC3.

    • @panshulbhardwaj6453
      @panshulbhardwaj6453 4 года назад +4

      💯

    • @krel3358
      @krel3358 4 года назад +46

      I think Uther is realizing deep down he is making a mistake as he trained arthas and as such it was his failure that led to Arthas falling. Remember Arthas' own soul was stolen by frostmourne and he was not incontrol of his actions afterwards.

    • @Masteph93
      @Masteph93 4 года назад +21

      @@krel3358 no doubt we'll be going to the maw the try and redeem Arthas's soul

    • @Rythmguitarable
      @Rythmguitarable 4 года назад +12

      Not only a student, he consider Arthas as his own nephew

  • @Sinafei
    @Sinafei 4 года назад +1411

    The way he says "He was my student" conveys so much hurt & feelings of betrayal, it hurts my heart. That's some top notch voice acting right there!

    • @Dimumouto
      @Dimumouto 4 года назад +40

      When he says it after Devos sees the Arthas vision nearly breaks me. I feel Uthers VA must've put some real pain into that line, because oof.

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 4 года назад

      agreed

    • @INNIPIE
      @INNIPIE 4 года назад +21

      He is indeed a great voice actor. If I'm not mistaken, it's Michael McConnohie. He also voices the Lich King ironically.

    • @Dimumouto
      @Dimumouto 4 года назад +26

      @@INNIPIE looking him up, he also did Deathwing, Magni, and Kel'thuzad. But dude, he's been in the anime industry since the freaking 80s. Man has quite the repertoire.

    • @INNIPIE
      @INNIPIE 4 года назад +4

      @@Dimumouto yea he's fantastic, one of my favourite.

  • @sharmsong
    @sharmsong 4 года назад +654

    Those musical callbacks to "Invincible" peeking through gave me uncontrollable goosebumps every time...

    • @MeritRaXIX
      @MeritRaXIX 4 года назад +11

      To me too, the musical piece is excellent.

    • @debilita9999
      @debilita9999 4 года назад +5

      Same. I even cried Sharm. Cried!
      -by Vardulis

    • @benjah7811
      @benjah7811 4 года назад +5

      F A T H E R I S I T O V E R ?

    • @pinstripe5487
      @pinstripe5487 4 года назад

      Sharm

    • @Marqrk
      @Marqrk 4 года назад

      I know, it was so perfectly implemented. Even if you hate everything else, I don’t think anyone could deny that these cinematics they make are prefect

  • @CM_87
    @CM_87 4 года назад +1753

    "What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
    "Glad you could make it, Bluether"
    "Alright, into the maw you go."

    • @AceX47
      @AceX47 4 года назад +36

      Underated comment

    • @trashfacevoorn8805
      @trashfacevoorn8805 4 года назад +26

      i laughed so hard

    • @Ricros_
      @Ricros_ 4 года назад +9

      haha

    • @azrael4885
      @azrael4885 4 года назад +11

      lmao for a good min well played

    • @DirtyBlueDahlia
      @DirtyBlueDahlia 4 года назад +12

      dude I was sobbing a bit after him saying "He was my student" and then I read this lmfao, gg wp

  • @BasedPeter
    @BasedPeter 4 года назад +3053

    Shadowlands: Soul stealing is a very serious crime
    Warlocks and Death knights: *gulp*

    • @LazyVideosGAME
      @LazyVideosGAME 4 года назад +67

      Yeah, I might rethink becoming part of the Venthyr Covenant as Warlock and Deathknight. xD

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +83

      Death Knights: Y'all hear sum?

    • @mondasin
      @mondasin 4 года назад +37

      its less soul stealing, and more permanent damage was delivered to the soul from a physical object.

    • @EngiHvergi6097
      @EngiHvergi6097 4 года назад +70

      Demon Hunters too, actually.

    • @Gleidur
      @Gleidur 4 года назад +75

      The impression I got was that Frostmourne wounded people's souls, which was an unforgivable act. Death knights just resurrect empty husks. Warlocks, however...

  • @yander3532
    @yander3532 4 года назад +6041

    "There is no evil in Bastion" sounds a lot like "There is no war in Ba-Sing-Se"

    • @afrodan7350
      @afrodan7350 4 года назад +155

      I KNEW THAT SOUNDED FAMILIAR😂😂😂
      I was like: "where have i heard this before"

    • @julespulp214
      @julespulp214 4 года назад +112

      There is no good. No evil. Only MORALLY GRAY.

    • @zbowz91
      @zbowz91 4 года назад +156

      You've been invited to Lake Laugai

    • @flargensnarf6500
      @flargensnarf6500 4 года назад +24

      What war?

    • @biggideal
      @biggideal 4 года назад +46

      LMAO, I'm rewatching Avatar, this is perfect

  • @CaptainDope
    @CaptainDope 4 года назад +1753

    I'm glad they're still using the original voice actor for Uther from Warcraft 3 even though it's been almost 20 years.

    • @Grahf0
      @Grahf0 4 года назад +60

      It's cool when companies do things like that. Beamdog invited David Warner to come back and reprise his role in Baldur's Gate: Siege at Dragonspear.
      Made me want to squeal out how many lights I saw when I heard his voice.

    • @Caracyon
      @Caracyon 4 года назад +29

      Same in the German version 😍

    • @KernyMedia
      @KernyMedia 4 года назад +27

      Hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

    • @dia21534
      @dia21534 4 года назад +109

      Glad he could make it

    • @Groxigar
      @Groxigar 4 года назад +7

      Makes me wonder why they never got Arthas from Wc3 back for Wow

  • @Mike-ce1my
    @Mike-ce1my 2 года назад +1211

    This cinematic is just way too good for this expansion.

    • @momentofenlightenment6004
      @momentofenlightenment6004 2 года назад +12

      Exactly 🤣

    • @corksterx1
      @corksterx1 2 года назад +12

      oof - it's true and it burns

    • @omerd5147
      @omerd5147 2 года назад +6

      Well said and observed!

    • @Xgamerwoo
      @Xgamerwoo 2 года назад +44

      The lore started off so strong and it crashed and burned worse than anyone could imagine

    • @GodOfWar05100
      @GodOfWar05100 2 года назад +13

      still remembering how hard this cinematic hyped me for the expansion...

  • @hasagine3479
    @hasagine3479 4 года назад +1839

    Do it throw him in
    "I-i shouldn't... it's not the paladin way"
    Dew it

    • @balrok99
      @balrok99 4 года назад +50

      It seems like Uther is now Anakin and this new order acts as Palpatine.

    • @SirZeu
      @SirZeu 4 года назад +18

      i had more of a isildur cast it into the fire vibe

    • @lefteron6804
      @lefteron6804 4 года назад +21

      -DESTROY HIM.
      -NO
      -UTHER!

    • @youtubeuser2194
      @youtubeuser2194 4 года назад +16

      the paladin way is against vengeance, he did it for justice like he said

    • @theli3x
      @theli3x 4 года назад +16

      "Yes, yeeees very good"

  • @Vyomesh839
    @Vyomesh839 4 года назад +946

    Sorry Uther, can't let you have him untill he drops Invincible.

    • @StudioUAC
      @StudioUAC 4 года назад +18

      true to that.

    • @merlle88
      @merlle88 4 года назад +6

      Have ur like good soul..

    • @Juddernaut89
      @Juddernaut89 4 года назад +8

      got it last week after on and off farming since WotLK

    • @Noflexing100
      @Noflexing100 4 года назад +4

      He will still be able to see him though so whats the point

    • @Archermit
      @Archermit 4 года назад +4

      @Francesco Salvia
      it will be a 100% drop from Athas in shadowlands haha people will be mental!!

  • @MrBlancify
    @MrBlancify 4 года назад +2914

    Thought they retconned at first but you can see one part of his soul going into the blade and another going to Shadowlands. We meet the soul fragment in the blade in Icecrown during WotLK and here we see the other part. Looks like something similar to Varian's soulsplit happened here where the two fragments take on different personalities as the fragment within the blade ended up forgiving Arthas and the part that went to Bastion was hellbent on revenge. That's why he couldn't ascend. The part of him that should've made it possible was missing.

    • @URKCEHinoSuu
      @URKCEHinoSuu 4 года назад +148

      Interesting theory..... I'm liking this comment. It deserves to be on the top.

    • @melysandras9970
      @melysandras9970 4 года назад +125

      I wonder if there's 2x parts to Sylvanna's soul?

    • @LMVStudios
      @LMVStudios 4 года назад +85

      I’m thinking it’s part of him being a Paladin. He was filled with such light power to put up a strong fight against Arthas. Maybe his connection to the light was strong enough that it split his soul when he was killed with frostmourne

    • @snoazll
      @snoazll 4 года назад +86

      Exactly what I was thinking.
      To add on this basis, I believe Ner'zhul created Death Knights from Paladins exactly of this reason - because some Paladins like Uther could not be completely consumed by the Lich King at all due to Light. Probably the Eredar that made Ner'zhul into Lich King knew this too. So unable to convert Paladins into his own he had to convert them into creatures of Vengeance, Death Knights.

    • @akira-lbstr
      @akira-lbstr 4 года назад +5

      I thought his soul was split into light and "anima stuff", and went to the shadowlands after the blade was broken ( time is different there so...), would make sense a shadowlands related item only being able to capture a "shadowlands intended thing" the soul I mean.

  • @Shradow
    @Shradow 4 года назад +679

    The recontextualization of the "I see only darkness before me." line was chilling.

    • @kyubii972
      @kyubii972 4 года назад +44

      Agreed, this is the kind of retcon that I can totally approve of

    • @Mandrarine
      @Mandrarine 4 года назад +8

      That's not a retcon, people don't even know what retcon means smh

    • @MrSelkies
      @MrSelkies 4 года назад +27

      @@Mandrarine Definition of retcon from google: (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.
      This is literally a retcon.

    • @ianhorne9594
      @ianhorne9594 4 года назад +12

      @@MrSelkies can you really consider it a retcon when we never really knew what happened with Arthas' soul when he died? I feel like this just added more context to it. I kind of see it as the cliche where, if you dont actually see a character die, then that just leaves room to add something later or just leave them "dead".

    • @LordKingKamiGuru
      @LordKingKamiGuru 4 года назад +5

      @@ianhorne9594 If Blizzard planned out this story-line back during WotLK, then it isn't a retcon. If this is something they came up with recently then it is. Pretty sure they came up with this recently.

  • @RanwulfMaxwell
    @RanwulfMaxwell 4 года назад +4585

    I honestly thought Uther wouldn't throw him. But dang he did.

    • @Zigz15
      @Zigz15 4 года назад +397

      Right? I thought they would be setting up some kind of redemption arc for Arthas. And honestly so pumped they didn't. Bring back the dark side of WoW.

    • @AwesomeTheAsim
      @AwesomeTheAsim 4 года назад +194

      JUSTICE

    • @DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ
      @DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ 4 года назад +339

      Bro, Arthas, even the control of Nerzhul, willingly let himself be used as a weapon of destruction. He killed his father, destroyed his kingdom, doomed most of the population to the curse of undeath, used the ash urn of his father as a way to revive Kel'Thuzad, killed his teacher, and then wounded/stop a part of his soul. Even after that, he kept seeking more destruction. Ik that Arthas' issue is very complex but his lack of will to resist taking the easy way out to save his people led him down a path where Uther's decision is justified.

    • @Marta_Moontessa
      @Marta_Moontessa 4 года назад +174

      Never liked Uther. IMO, he was always blind to everything that didn't align with his view of the world, and remained that way after death

    • @manadar7861
      @manadar7861 4 года назад +153

      @@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ What the blade did to Uther also happened to all other souls claimed by Frostmourne - So basically there are thousands of souls who were pierced by the blade.

  • @OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR
    @OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR 4 года назад +365

    "Remember, Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do. If we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, then we will become as vile as the Orcs."
    He got real PTSD

    • @falaendil8813
      @falaendil8813 4 года назад +9

      Yet vengeance is inseparable part of a paladin's way.

    • @Sindraug25
      @Sindraug25 4 года назад +18

      It's not vengeance. It's justice!

    • @bloodlustftw3790
      @bloodlustftw3790 4 года назад +2

      What Arthas did on his first expedition in Northrend to hunt down Mal'Ganis called vengeance as well.

    • @lilfur
      @lilfur 4 года назад +2

      Faaacts!~

    • @gustavodejesus6061
      @gustavodejesus6061 4 года назад +2

      He lose half soul, he's half uther, he's lost! (My english sucks, sorry u.u)

  • @IAmTsukii
    @IAmTsukii 4 года назад +1055

    3:34
    Legit, that scream from Uther when it cuts back to him being murdered, it’s so spine chilling. So well done. Props to that voice actor.

    • @mmur123
      @mmur123 4 года назад +117

      they say they killed a man irl to make it more realistic

    • @bleakraven
      @bleakraven 4 года назад +12

      The only other memorable death scream I can think of is Raziel from Legacy of Kain, in the abyss.

    • @JioVega
      @JioVega 4 года назад +51

      Not only murdered, but having his soul ripped in half. The VA nailed the scream right on the head

    • @HellionRex
      @HellionRex 3 года назад +2

      @@bleakraven Yeeeeeeesssss, that's first one i ever took notice of, as "dang, nice scream bro" when i was a kid

    • @Karpata1
      @Karpata1 3 года назад +1

      Let's hope he doesn't get cancelled anytime soon

  • @JohnSmith-ds3hd
    @JohnSmith-ds3hd 4 года назад +2633

    "Remember, Arthas. We are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do."
    Uther -2002

    • @Mid-Tyr
      @Mid-Tyr 4 года назад +461

      Justice tho 👌🏻

    • @ВладаГолубева-ъ3г
      @ВладаГолубева-ъ3г 4 года назад +188

      Retribution, guys 😉

    • @beelzebuey277
      @beelzebuey277 4 года назад +234

      But justices demands retribution!

    • @untitled_one1584
      @untitled_one1584 4 года назад +109

      Man, I love where Uther’s story is going! I love that they’re giving him additional character growth and flaws that actually make sense with his story. I really like this turn of events.

    • @xaecre9845
      @xaecre9845 4 года назад +62

      LOL. Okay. Sure. "Strike with great vengeance!" ~ totally not uther 2003 (warcraft 3)

  • @gustavodr.6042
    @gustavodr.6042 4 года назад +1414

    Arthas: I wonder if he forgives me
    Uther: *YEET*

  • @Dr_Disconnect
    @Dr_Disconnect 4 года назад +3133

    What I'm worried about is one of the murlocs I've killed ascending and yeeting me into The Maw.

    • @skyfallprime7977
      @skyfallprime7977 4 года назад +74

      Maybe, but that Murlocs need to be selfless.

    • @bagelsecelle9308
      @bagelsecelle9308 4 года назад +9

      Based

    • @lordpneumael
      @lordpneumael 4 года назад +93

      If you think that is bad, imagine if Hogger ascends...

    • @TheySchlendrian
      @TheySchlendrian 4 года назад +8

      only if youre a deathknight

    • @Dr_Disconnect
      @Dr_Disconnect 4 года назад +7

      @@TheySchlendrian I knew I shouldn't have switched to DK from shammy because of BFA.

  • @xtreme65
    @xtreme65 4 года назад +1900

    When Uther hesitates. "He was.....my student." Gets me every time.

    • @shasta_creates
      @shasta_creates 4 года назад +103

      Dude, the artists NAILED his expressions there. The contemplation, the look of regret and consideration of mercy, then Devos whispering "Remember what he did and take your vengeance" and THEN the crazed look of wrath? 😗👌 I would watch these things for days if Blizz made more of them.

    • @hacmonite
      @hacmonite 4 года назад +3

      Right in the feels man.

    • @hristopavlov298
      @hristopavlov298 4 года назад +5

      @@shasta_creates I already am spamming them. It can't get any worse at this point.

    • @kaperskyplays8016
      @kaperskyplays8016 4 года назад +3

      Ahh yes, reminds me of the first two chapters of the human campaign of warcraft 3 RoC.

    • @merlinboshoff1052
      @merlinboshoff1052 4 года назад +9

      I think he wanted to say son

  • @slyblood85
    @slyblood85 4 года назад +1854

    That scream Uther let’s out when Frostmourne pierces his chest is horrifying.

    • @Soulrenderxz
      @Soulrenderxz 4 года назад +72

      I was thinking that. Never heard such a cry of agony.

    • @МихаилПенев-ф6с
      @МихаилПенев-ф6с 4 года назад +18

      @@Soulrenderxz vesemirs death in the witcher 3
      Bith are equally chilling

    • @Startbreak12
      @Startbreak12 4 года назад +65

      Uther's VA is fantastic at what he does
      For those whom may not know, he's also the VA for Kel'thu-freaking-zad, among a handful of others I won't spoil here ;)

    • @gamwpanagia
      @gamwpanagia 4 года назад +39

      GODLIKE voice acting

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +15

      And I thought stubbing a toe was painful

  • @That_Doctor_Del_Fella
    @That_Doctor_Del_Fella 4 года назад +2446

    "There is no evil here."
    "There is no war in Ba Sing Se."

    • @thelordoftimekirk6317
      @thelordoftimekirk6317 4 года назад +43

      You know a week ago I wouldn't have got that but now.................I understand

    • @Gebirges
      @Gebirges 4 года назад +29

      @@thelordoftimekirk6317 welcome to the people who know 😥

    • @oskarwildmusic
      @oskarwildmusic 4 года назад +2

      Uhhh. I understand that now :D

    • @ETCABEZON
      @ETCABEZON 4 года назад +13

      "No one is conscripting airbenders in Ba Sing Se"

    • @phoenixascending6501
      @phoenixascending6501 4 года назад +2

      Thought the same line too. Love Avatar.

  • @zandroamador4491
    @zandroamador4491 4 года назад +2451

    *THIS ENTIRE BASTION MUST BE PURGED*
    - Arthas 2020

    • @42Nightsyesterday
      @42Nightsyesterday 4 года назад +116

      Make the Shadowlands great again

    • @Pandarian300
      @Pandarian300 4 года назад +16

      lol for their blind stupidity ? indeed purge is in order

    • @hannachristian7743
      @hannachristian7743 4 года назад +11

      Arthas

    • @bushka1172
      @bushka1172 4 года назад +29

      Imagine him getting corrupted again and destroying the bastion. I feel like blizzard is giving a reason to have him come back.

    • @thejeff5010
      @thejeff5010 4 года назад +7

      @@bushka1172 late game redemption arc, maybe.

  • @althalusian
    @althalusian 4 года назад +902

    5:18 ... even after all these years since ICC the theme (Invincible) still hits like a ton of bricks

    • @_Kalfy
      @_Kalfy 4 года назад +47

      Somethings can't and won't die. He ll come back...I can feel it.

    • @DeathSithe92
      @DeathSithe92 4 года назад +34

      I still get tingles down my spine and goosebumps on my arms whenever I hear it....that deep....graceful orchestral music of gentle malevolence is just....mph....chilling.

    • @debrickashaw9387
      @debrickashaw9387 3 года назад +1

      Lament of the highborne for me

    • @starwind3651
      @starwind3651 3 года назад +10

      My son..

    • @devastator6570
      @devastator6570 3 года назад +2

      Seeing arthas lying there uttering his last words made me cry 😭

  • @Azureght
    @Azureght 4 года назад +406

    "I see ...only darkness before m-...no wait it's Uther and a flying angel!"
    Tirion and Raid: "wtf is he talking about"

    • @Azureght
      @Azureght 4 года назад +18

      @xoobo vola reusing old beloved characters looks more like an act of desperation imo

    • @hristopavlov298
      @hristopavlov298 4 года назад +2

      He saw the maw, not the spirit healers, they straight up teleported back into the empty space in the shadowlands and flew a little to the maw. Uther also saw Bastion and not his angel that ferried him

    • @NironicGaming
      @NironicGaming 4 года назад

      @@Azureght I like it, the new ones suck anyways .... nostalgia time

    • @Lancor84
      @Lancor84 4 года назад +2

      @@Azureght Well, what would make more sense if you go into the realm of the dead?

  • @thewalrus45
    @thewalrus45 4 года назад +1071

    "Do you have anything to say for yourself boy?"
    "GLAD YOU COULD BAKE IT UTHER"
    "okay into the Maw you go"

    • @vampiriann
      @vampiriann 4 года назад +30

      BLUETHER

    • @Chronochrome
      @Chronochrome 4 года назад +8

      *ding*
      It's done!

    • @ScourgeGlaive
      @ScourgeGlaive 4 года назад +2

      Oh gosh it is so late in germany but I'm sitting in my flat right now, laughing way to hard.
      I am pretty sure at least ONE of my neighbours heard me! xDDDDD

    • @KiraDidNoWrong8274
      @KiraDidNoWrong8274 4 года назад +1

      @Loser 123 yeah, and water is wet

    • @Turakius
      @Turakius 4 года назад

      HAhahaa! I like this

  • @gregoryzen-ruffinen4942
    @gregoryzen-ruffinen4942 4 года назад +1524

    "Tyrael, Archangel of Justice liked this video."

    • @5133937
      @5133937 4 года назад +41

      Oh man I hope Tyrael is like a hidden, unannounced reveal in this expansion.

    • @brQdfrQd
      @brQdfrQd 4 года назад +22

      @Loser 123 Good, keep politics out of video games :)

    • @mostlypixels2975
      @mostlypixels2975 4 года назад +10

      @Loser 123 Do you get one for saying Biden 2020? If so then it's all good.

    • @spyknight8857
      @spyknight8857 4 года назад +9

      You know... what if bastion isn't heaven but is a plane of heaven like in diablo. Like a archmage plane.

    • @julespulp214
      @julespulp214 4 года назад +12

      That was not Justice. Tyrael'd never approve that decision.

  • @bicballdeity5472
    @bicballdeity5472 4 года назад +2345

    Mom: You won't even feel the injection
    The kid in the next room: 3:33

    • @spuffles2104
      @spuffles2104 4 года назад +41

      oh god

    • @UncannyVallium
      @UncannyVallium 4 года назад +120

      BRUH every time I take my kids for their shots....some Uther down the hall....

    • @leevc2037
      @leevc2037 4 года назад +15

      Oh lord, I'm getting flashbacks now!

    • @kamikazeekid1
      @kamikazeekid1 4 года назад +57

      As a nurse I have to admit that this is the best joke I have ever heared :)))))))))))))))))))

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 4 года назад

      Went through the same

  • @Vucko0o
    @Vucko0o 4 года назад +857

    Arthas while falling into the maw "Icecrown was merely a setback!"

    • @Chewy427
      @Chewy427 4 года назад +20

      man of culture

    • @Neo_wow
      @Neo_wow 4 года назад +13

      Naxxanar was merely a setback. With the Power of the Orb valanar shall get his vengeance xD

    • @hyfryd6677
      @hyfryd6677 4 года назад +4

      As soon as we get Shadowlands Afterlives: Ravendreth we can look forward to a lot more of that meme.

    • @mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207
      @mybuttsmellslikebutterbut207 4 года назад +4

      They placed one of the most powerful death knights in the maw? These night lamps called the Kyrians are not very smart.

    • @charlemagne797
      @charlemagne797 4 года назад +1

      Frostmourne is gone.

  • @marques4404
    @marques4404 4 года назад +650

    This is the first time Arthas hasn't had a neck like a tree trunk and actually looks like a human being. I like it!

  • @ryanmacallister6373
    @ryanmacallister6373 4 года назад +434

    "He was my student" said Uther calmly and with love as he yeeted Arthas into cosmic oblivion.

  • @thecommentguy9380
    @thecommentguy9380 4 года назад +876

    Devos: Your soul is wounded?
    Illidan: Tis' but a scratch

    • @visangh
      @visangh 4 года назад +42

      I am my scars!

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 4 года назад +16

      'tis only a soul wound!

    • @Kain366
      @Kain366 3 года назад +2

      Yeeeeee.

  • @RinaaaYa
    @RinaaaYa 4 года назад +768

    "We may never know, Uther. I intend to live forever."

    • @samsizziero3962
      @samsizziero3962 4 года назад +58

      Bro, was just remembering that line as Uther died.

    • @SimplyConeh
      @SimplyConeh 4 года назад +22

      an karanir thanagor

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +10

      Players: Say sike right now

    • @lazarus8453
      @lazarus8453 4 года назад +5

      they could add this line its very wasted opurnity

    • @vindico8231
      @vindico8231 4 года назад +3

      Well, that's what he intended, doesn't mean that he will live forever.

  • @mukuls410
    @mukuls410 4 года назад +851

    When he says "He was my student"
    There is so much pain and anger at the same time.

    • @Rintarouu1
      @Rintarouu1 4 года назад +46

      I feel much anguish in his voice, like he is sad for the path arthas took

    • @rogoni9894
      @rogoni9894 4 года назад +21

      For a moment I thought he wouldn't drop him, and wish this happened to see what could happen then

    • @DarthCoughlin
      @DarthCoughlin 4 года назад +25

      I think there was some self-reflection in those words. In a sense, Uther's motivation to punish Arthas is the same mindset that drove Arthas to Northrend in the first place (in pursuit of justice). Whether it was right or wrong is subjective, but I definitely feel like Uther was taking some responsibility there.

    • @BigallVlad
      @BigallVlad 4 года назад +25

      Simillar with Obi-Wan and Anakin

    • @LauWG
      @LauWG 4 года назад +1

      Tearjerking

  • @ZetsubouZolo
    @ZetsubouZolo 4 года назад +560

    3:34 that scream tho. they murdered the man live in studio.

    • @Sarah_Kinz
      @Sarah_Kinz 4 года назад +42

      Imagine if they redid the cinematic in Warcraft 3 and had that scream in it.

    • @1k20a
      @1k20a 4 года назад +1

      axe to the head lol

    • @dalgib90
      @dalgib90 4 года назад +18

      It almost makes me cry. It's so good

    • @julejule7
      @julejule7 4 года назад

      we don't talk about that

  • @Olivertang629
    @Olivertang629 3 года назад +314

    Uther: "He was my student."
    Devos: "Remember what he did, and take your revenge."
    Uther: "WHAT? HOW CAN YOU CONSIDER THAT, ITS GOTTA BE SOME OTHER WAY."

    • @CtrlAltDlt68
      @CtrlAltDlt68 3 года назад +78

      HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND, DEVOS?

  • @MrHawkinator
    @MrHawkinator 4 года назад +438

    "he was my student" I don't know why, but it brings a tear to my eyes

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 4 года назад +15

      I mean, Regardless of what Arthas did. He was still Uther's finest student. That kind of connection is never lost no matter what happens.

    • @0AmonRa0
      @0AmonRa0 4 года назад +16

      Obi-Wan know that u_u

    • @Frenchfraeis
      @Frenchfraeis 4 года назад +3

      Makes me wonder at all if Blizzard tries to expand on Arthas and make him regret his actions. Sure, the books said he meant to do all that, but it's not like the books have ever been acknowledged in the game before.

    • @NostaLG666
      @NostaLG666 4 года назад

      We dont know too...

    • @BlinkofaStorm
      @BlinkofaStorm 4 года назад +5

      The only thing I would do to add onto this would have been a single moment of Uther hugging Arthas before casting him away with "He was my student" since he was basically a parental figure to Arthas.

  • @AlunKahul
    @AlunKahul 4 года назад +1268

    Shadowland’s citizens: What cha got there?
    DKs with their weapon transmoged to the Blades of the Fallen Prince: Smoothie

    • @ConnerPlays360
      @ConnerPlays360 4 года назад +37

      An icarley meme? Nice! Also : GIBBY!!!

    • @berryford
      @berryford 4 года назад +18

      I hope there is an easter egg of some kind when you are showing that weapon appearance or if you take them to someone.

    • @Alwuwa
      @Alwuwa 4 года назад +1

      I mean, Arthas definitely did a Gibby from Uthers hand

    • @komi-sanmustbeprotected5665
      @komi-sanmustbeprotected5665 4 года назад +1

      Conner360 that was my childhood right there

    • @xmixaplix
      @xmixaplix 4 года назад +6

      We fight for the maw king now 😈

  • @siegmeyer995
    @siegmeyer995 4 года назад +3389

    "Uther..."
    "Where..where am I?"
    "Welcome to Overwatch"

    • @LycheusDow
      @LycheusDow 4 года назад +295

      I thought eternal suffering means Heroes of the Storm

    • @akira7752
      @akira7752 4 года назад +26

      @@LycheusDow Exactly

    • @BiG-JuPO1O1
      @BiG-JuPO1O1 4 года назад +13

      @@LycheusDow Yes

    • @El_Crazyknight
      @El_Crazyknight 4 года назад +22

      ''HEROES OF THE STORM!''

    • @petersander5802
      @petersander5802 4 года назад +6

      @@El_Crazyknight Uther never deserved to suffer he gave his life for the innocents!

  • @renaultellis6188
    @renaultellis6188 4 года назад +2457

    "Remember Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do"
    -Uther, wc3

    • @ithurtswheni3.14
      @ithurtswheni3.14 4 года назад +230

      They sacrified the warcraft soul for the money. They know people are still nostalgic for w3 and Arthas story, so they will milk it as much as possible.

    • @ZexX0505
      @ZexX0505 4 года назад +232

      "No..not vangeance, JUSTICE"

    • @0That_Guy0
      @0That_Guy0 4 года назад +117

      I hope the soul of Uther that was trapped in the blade, manages to meet up with this broken Uther, and convince him to do what he (the trapped) did: Forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was, and not the monster he became.
      Since they showed in this cinematic that his soul was split, I still have hope.

    • @Itachixg
      @Itachixg 4 года назад +19

      @@0That_Guy0 he did justice not vengueance

    • @0That_Guy0
      @0That_Guy0 4 года назад +126

      ​@@Itachixg Just because he calls it justice, doesn't mean it is justice. He made it personal, and you can't judge anything right when you make it personal - That's also the point with the Bastion and their teachings from what we know so far. This broken Uther and his paragon buddy are taking "justice" into their own hands, and dealing out judgement as they see fit from their personal point of view. Uther calls it "justice", but that's simply to excuse and justify his lust for vengeance. It's a very typical and human thing to do.
      You also see Uther struggling with the choice right before he drops him, but the paragon is seething with hate and urges him to throw Arthas into the Maw. She's kind of the Devil on his shoulder. The part of Uther struggling with condemning Arthas was basically the part that won out in the Uther trapped in Frostmourne; the part that chose to forgive and forget. Judgement was not for him to decide.
      The Uther in Frostmourne stayed true to the way of a Paladin of the Light, whilst the Uther in Bastion got screwed by his own Paragon and led on a path of vengeance.

  • @IDIoilburner
    @IDIoilburner 4 года назад +545

    The scene where Arthas is just laying there gives me goosebumps.

    • @rachaelsims6625
      @rachaelsims6625 4 года назад +35

      With the Arthas/WotLK theme music callback? So good.

    • @qoki2244
      @qoki2244 4 года назад +27

      @@rachaelsims6625 Back when they game was actually good.

    • @Vanstrudel
      @Vanstrudel 4 года назад +27

      @@rachaelsims6625 I got goosebumps when that musical piece started, in the very first second of vocals. So iconic. 10 years of a storyline coming to and end and they could not have used a better piece. It just communicates everything it should. Sorrow, regret, resolution, and how far we've come. This was one of the most moving lore-related thing Blizzard has released in a long time, no surprise it's a WotLK callback.

    • @joeblow3145
      @joeblow3145 4 года назад +1

      Going back and watching the fall of the lich king cinematic knowing everything we know now brings up all the feels

    • @greenbamboozler3321
      @greenbamboozler3321 4 года назад

      @Nanno Girl from nowhere No he didn't.

  • @Phane02
    @Phane02 4 года назад +569

    When we meet this Archon, I hope it'll say "power overwhelming"

  • @DoctorFail
    @DoctorFail 4 года назад +1512

    Uther: He was...he was my student-
    Arthas: i still wont drop invincible-
    Uther: *drops him*

    • @deathmamba6159
      @deathmamba6159 4 года назад +14

      And shadowmourne

    • @passmetheauxx
      @passmetheauxx 4 года назад +27

      @@deathmamba6159 shadow mourns is a quest line not a boss drop

    • @MrElionor
      @MrElionor 4 года назад +4

      Uh justice

    • @latashagreer8339
      @latashagreer8339 4 года назад +1

      I cackled at this

    • @mementomori1178
      @mementomori1178 4 года назад +1

      DeathMamba yeah shadowmourne requires a quest line that has parts that cannot be soloed.

  • @Almahser
    @Almahser 4 года назад +691

    Devos: Your soul is wounded?!
    Uther: I AM MY SCARS!!!

  • @Alexander-ix2jp
    @Alexander-ix2jp 4 года назад +724

    Got goosebumps when the lich kings music started playing.

    • @Arius_suira
      @Arius_suira 4 года назад +3

      Samee

    • @niklasnielsen5976
      @niklasnielsen5976 4 года назад +4

      Absolutely, brings back memories ...

    • @maio290
      @maio290 4 года назад +11

      After not playing BfA after the first raid, this made me pre-purchase the expansion. Blizzard knows how to trigger, for sure. The same as in the Realm Of Torment cinematic.

    • @barthez_
      @barthez_ 4 года назад +2

      Yeah man, the most climatic music ever

    • @Armoric70
      @Armoric70 4 года назад +4

      An Karanir Thanagor

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 4 года назад +1349

    “He continues to demand retribution for his death...” “And this concerns you? I mean, he is a Retribution Pally, that’s kinda their thing...”

    • @Darkandi457
      @Darkandi457 4 года назад +17

      Maybee witha good group hé wouldn t have died 😊

    • @lukasmakula7781
      @lukasmakula7781 4 года назад +5

      @@Darkandi457 maybe he tried retri tank a lot :D

    • @Darkandi457
      @Darkandi457 4 года назад +1

      @@lukasmakula7781 wrong stuff again ahhahaha

    • @nimander5483
      @nimander5483 4 года назад +27

      Uther had the Libram of Justice. It was Tirion who was given the Libram of Retribution.

    • @woldenwolk
      @woldenwolk 4 года назад +27

      @@nimander5483 Justice demands retribution!

  • @monikavosyliute4210
    @monikavosyliute4210 4 года назад +556

    Absolutely amazing job with this, gave me chills

    • @ad3s892
      @ad3s892 4 года назад +7

      Yeah I got chills also can’t wait on where this all leads too

  • @johanurdiales7356
    @johanurdiales7356 4 года назад +274

    Uther's voice actor is just awesome, the way he sounds whenever he remembered what Arthas did was heartbreaking.

    • @asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476
      @asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476 3 года назад +9

      Also the scream when he is being killed... damm

    • @cromanticheer
      @cromanticheer 3 года назад +6

      I'm so happy Michael McConnohie has remained Uther's VA since WC3. I love the gravitas he brings to every line.

    • @zzBaBzz
      @zzBaBzz 3 года назад +1

      He sounds pretty bad imho.

    • @johanurdiales7356
      @johanurdiales7356 3 года назад +1

      @@zzBaBzz beauty is in the eye of the beholder, sir.
      Probably you find other VA’s much more appealing and it’s totally respectable. What voices have you liked before? Probably that’s why you don’t like Uther’s, because he’s not the kind of actors you usually enjoy listening to 🤔

    • @zzBaBzz
      @zzBaBzz 3 года назад

      @@johanurdiales7356 It's very much objective. :-)
      Original Uther voice actually suits him. This one is your typical low budget constipated neverlettingtheirteethseparate growlers. No depth, no range.
      The same change they did to Illidan's voice. Travesty.

  • @getonleagueguys7557
    @getonleagueguys7557 4 года назад +1274

    Everyone: Nah Uther won't kill him
    Uther: GOODBYEEE JOJOOO

  • @HigherMammal
    @HigherMammal 4 года назад +1980

    "Who did this to you!?"
    *MOM MODE ENGAGED*

    • @ayethe4603
      @ayethe4603 4 года назад +82

      she went full commando mom

    • @kohno9647
      @kohno9647 4 года назад +10

      Ayethe camomdo

    • @SomethingLame
      @SomethingLame 4 года назад +12

      RET CON MODE ENGAGED

    • @tudorinbogdan240
      @tudorinbogdan240 4 года назад +51

      *CRYING CAT FACE*
      "H- He was my _sniff_ student!"

    • @JackyMan22
      @JackyMan22 4 года назад +4

      RED ALERT SOVIET MARCH. ._.)

  • @BlackBirds93
    @BlackBirds93 4 года назад +554

    Can't believe it's been 12 years since we first heard and saw "I see only darkness before me" and now they showed us the true meaning behind it, the kid in me who nolifed WOTLK just got crazy chills.

    • @theloa7154
      @theloa7154 4 года назад +28

      me too man it pains me when people say retconned etc beacuse this is just flat out great long-term story telling all the pieces coming together.

    • @chris-daniel_lillebekk
      @chris-daniel_lillebekk 4 года назад +1

      I KNOOWW RIIIGHT??!?!

    • @Demmortal
      @Demmortal 4 года назад +24

      its not true meaning behind it, they just came up with it couple years ago and rewrite evrything.

    • @norbiracz6003
      @norbiracz6003 4 года назад

      I was like:" it's big brain time"
      It was mind-blowing hearing that quote once more

    • @imRawpew
      @imRawpew 4 года назад +3

      @@Demmortal they obviously had a plan bruh

  • @StannersFranks
    @StannersFranks 4 года назад +565

    Seeing Arthas in such detail, aged with stubble, scars and bags under his eyes really gives perspective of time in this game

    • @Vanstrudel
      @Vanstrudel 4 года назад +41

      I agree, also the decay of bearing that burden. It's so beautiful. They seem to always nail the story when it comes to Arthas' arc. So much love put into it, and it really shows. Part of me always wants Arthas to be part of the story, but I know times change, and we can't beat that dead horse forever.

    • @Riwillion
      @Riwillion 4 года назад +13

      What do you mean "aged," he died when he first put on the Helm of Domination.

    • @asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476
      @asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476 3 года назад +20

      He is portrayed with bags under his eyes since warcraft 3 lol, since he became corrupted by the Frostmourne

    • @peen2804
      @peen2804 Год назад +1

      @@Riwillion not really lol

  • @janhoable
    @janhoable 4 года назад +345

    "you were suposed to destroy the undead, not join them!"

    • @danielblitzke3909
      @danielblitzke3909 4 года назад +33

      Uther : My powers has doubled since the last time we met, Arthas

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +16

      @@danielblitzke3909 "strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you could ever imagine"

    • @FrVitoBe
      @FrVitoBe 4 года назад +3

      Dame da ne

    • @nahuel407
      @nahuel407 4 года назад +9

      He was the best Paladin in Azeroth, and a cunning warrior. And he was a good friend

    • @tomislavlukicloznica
      @tomislavlukicloznica 4 года назад +1

      @c0smic nice Star Wars refference :D

  • @rahn45
    @rahn45 4 года назад +1891

    "Father! Is it over?"
    "Not yet my son, Blizzard stills needs money."

  • @AsprosOfAzeroth
    @AsprosOfAzeroth 4 года назад +226

    Can we take a moment to appreciate Michael McConnohie as a voice actor?
    That scream when his soul is riped!!

    • @Xivix427
      @Xivix427 4 года назад +8

      Chilling indeed

    • @AsprosOfAzeroth
      @AsprosOfAzeroth 4 года назад +5

      @@Xivix427 and the arthas music in the back!! can't wait for someone to put just the music up

    • @AsprosOfAzeroth
      @AsprosOfAzeroth 4 года назад +2

      ​@Nicolai Larsen yes, "Arthas, my son" but clearly different version, trust me i have a hear for Warcraft music

    • @Abelhawk
      @Abelhawk 4 года назад +2

      I know! That's like Attack on Titan-level voice acting right there.

    • @freshfilmproducts
      @freshfilmproducts 4 года назад +3

      That scream was nice, but nothing will ever beat varians death scream :D

  • @Eleni_E
    @Eleni_E 3 года назад +243

    Death knight armed with the blades of the fallen prince: "The power of the maw in hand, you say? Runes, you say? Oh, gosh. Um. That would be real bad, wouldn't it." *shifts awkwardly, hides runeblades*

    • @oluftheexplorer9476
      @oluftheexplorer9476 3 года назад +26

      What me? Nah, I'm good haha, don't worry *secretly throws runeblades into the maw*

    • @baboonman846
      @baboonman846 2 года назад +1

      *Shoos deathcharger away out of sight*

    • @ransac16
      @ransac16 2 года назад

      Meanwhile, my Death Knight in the Maw: Okay, time to get you fixed! Starts reforging Frostmourne properly.

  • @gramaalexandru962
    @gramaalexandru962 4 года назад +712

    Uther’s scream as he’s impaled by Frostmourne and his soul leaving his body is chilling to the bone 🥶🥶

    • @akubel33t
      @akubel33t 4 года назад +5

      Grama Alexandru i know 😭

    • @Comedymakesmelaugh7
      @Comedymakesmelaugh7 4 года назад +45

      It honestly sounded like they pulled Michael McConnohie's soul from his body to get that scream.
      Reminds me of Varian's scream as he was disintegrated. Actual, legitimate pain in those screams.

    • @BerosusNL
      @BerosusNL 4 года назад +33

      That voice. was so perfect. It truly captures how forsaken and pained he felt at that moment.

    • @ianwhelan-miller90
      @ianwhelan-miller90 4 года назад +21

      It's so chilling having something so horrible happen to a good man. Uther represented the ideals of Lordaeron, and the gentle strength of the Light. He didn't deserve this, which makes his pain cut all the more deeply.

    • @dronewars7186
      @dronewars7186 4 года назад +6

      @@ianwhelan-miller90 no one deserved that not even Arthas who got controlled

  • @caffemocca8855
    @caffemocca8855 4 года назад +684

    Uther: "He was my student... I.... I will give him at least a chance....."
    Arthas: "Glad you could bake it, Uther"
    Uther: "Alright.... off The Maw you go!"

    • @mmehdi3437
      @mmehdi3437 4 года назад +1

      lol

    • @theweebean304
      @theweebean304 4 года назад +47

      "glad you could bake it uther"
      "dont use that tone with me Arthas, you may be a cook but i am still your superior as a chef"

    • @Timmahh85
      @Timmahh85 4 года назад +1

      The breadening(breaddening? In all it’s glory 😂

    • @JackyMan22
      @JackyMan22 4 года назад +1

      Dammit Uther, as your future Masterchef I order you to sprinkle the cake!

    • @voiceoftheguns27
      @voiceoftheguns27 4 года назад +1

      How could he forghetti?

  • @Gredran
    @Gredran 4 года назад +384

    Side note: this IS Uther’s voice actor from Warcraft III you’re not mistaken.
    Upon further research, the voice actor’s a powerhouse(face it, which voice actor in these video games and shows isn’t one?) but he’s voices kel thuzad, uther in war3 and the expansions when they revisit those characters and even the lich king throughout Wrath and deathwing too!
    It’s crazy awesome how long this guy’s been at it!

    • @kkarall5060
      @kkarall5060 4 года назад +6

      Also warriv in diablo 2

    • @b0bbinat0r89
      @b0bbinat0r89 4 года назад

      K Karall That, and the Necromancer.

    • @tirlas
      @tirlas 4 года назад

      "Your curiosity will be the death of you." KT

    • @kristenkidd3982
      @kristenkidd3982 4 года назад +3

      Holy smokes, I never would have known they were all the same person. I'm gonna listen out for it now. The only one I really recognize doing multiple characters is Jim Cummings, the guy that voiced Winnie the Pooh.. I know they use him in World of Warcraft a LOT.

    • @pendraco2000
      @pendraco2000 4 года назад

      @@kristenkidd3982 Steve Blum, Jennifer Hale, Phil Lamarr and Chris Metzen probably voice half of WoW XD

  • @Beriorn
    @Beriorn 4 года назад +297

    6:25 Unlike Invincible, Arthas did drop.

  • @motokaichou2010
    @motokaichou2010 4 года назад +725

    "Remember Arthas, we are Paladins ! Vengeance cannot be a part of what we do."
    - Uther, Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos, Human Campaign chapter 2.

    • @DarthGolf
      @DarthGolf 4 года назад +22

      He should said that to burn Uther even more. Too bad he's unconscious.

    • @b2bbbbb
      @b2bbbbb 4 года назад +93

      how many times to repeat - justice, not vengeance :)

    • @neffarion8705
      @neffarion8705 4 года назад +7

      look another one made it to the water-scrollsage Nola

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 4 года назад +17

      he said justice, so therefore his action are resonable

    • @alwolf7431
      @alwolf7431 4 года назад +2

      I guess Uther wasn't a paladin anymore after he DIED...

  • @channelofmojos2779
    @channelofmojos2779 4 года назад +1293

    Surely there is no way dropping Arthas into the Maw will backfire in any way shape or form.

    • @billylee4460
      @billylee4460 4 года назад +155

      a way for Blizzard to try and bring Arthas back I guess?

    • @peterh2828
      @peterh2828 4 года назад +37

      Obviously. ;-)

    • @otrain46
      @otrain46 4 года назад +98

      @@billylee4460 Redemption arc hands down Arthas should have his whole soul now since frostmourne was destroyed.

    • @thebl4ckd0g
      @thebl4ckd0g 4 года назад +36

      @@billylee4460 and like Illidan, he will come back as a good guy/hero.

    • @Rikitangoable
      @Rikitangoable 4 года назад +89

      @@thebl4ckd0g illidan has always been the good guy, but that would be cool to see arthas back on the good side

  • @malohn2068
    @malohn2068 4 года назад +2522

    The soul being split theory seems to make sense if you think about it.
    The soul trapped in Frostmourne learned over time that the Arthas that killed him wasn't truly himself, he was manipulated and basically mindcontrolled and Uther forgave Arthas. The soul that got sent to Bastion only knew that Arthas betrayed the kingdom and killed him. He was never inside Frostmourne and got to experience what really happened to Arthas. After Arthas dying you could say the soul merged with Uther, which is why he suddenly hesitates but Deimos gives Uther the push he needed to sway his judgement and cast Arthas into the Maw.

    • @sahret6785
      @sahret6785 4 года назад +66

      @Sylvos Salazar How you know that it did not happen? Maybe it went unnoticed, because they forgott there mortal lives for the Bastion, or even got in another Fraction in the shadowlands. There is a short story of sylvanas and how they help here get back in to here live

    • @cazat
      @cazat 4 года назад +90

      @Sylvos Salazar Sylvanas's soul didn't pass on, she was raised as undead so her soul is still with her.

    • @LilTRoberts1000
      @LilTRoberts1000 4 года назад +30

      Sylvos Salazar Sylvanas is a banshee. Her banshee form is her twisted soul. She was allowed back her body though so technically her entire damned soul is out of Frostmourne

    • @CueCN
      @CueCN 4 года назад +5

      Sylvos Salazar What canon is changed? I don’t understand

    • @CueCN
      @CueCN 4 года назад +50

      Sylvos Salazar 1) The video did not tell us that the soul of everyone is split when stabbed by frostmourne. The lore never mentioned it. This video shows Uther the Lightbringer whispered to the light at the moment of his death. As his soul came out of his body, part of his soul was split and saved explicitly by the light because that half of soul was covered in golden yellow. None of the other souls we saw in game has a yellow color besides Valarjar 2) It’s not logical to say Sylvanas’s soul had also split. Even if she did, we don’t know if she will end up in the bastion out of the four covenants.

  • @Skyrain315
    @Skyrain315 4 года назад +277

    "Where....where am I?"
    *"Welcome to the Nexus, hero!"*

  • @Jaebird88
    @Jaebird88 4 года назад +272

    Batman: "I am vengeance."
    Uther: "Not vengeance... Justice."

    • @TheClarkBark
      @TheClarkBark 4 года назад +6

      He’s both. Also the night.

    • @BrewskaySA
      @BrewskaySA 4 года назад

      @@TheClarkBark You beat me to it! i was so gonna say I am the night... I am Batman!!!!!

    • @Themperror1
      @Themperror1 4 года назад +3

      You speak of justice, of cowardice?
      I will show you the justice of the grave, and the true meaning.. of fear!

    • @BrewskaySA
      @BrewskaySA 4 года назад

      @@Themperror1 Jesus!!!

    • @CRSB00
      @CRSB00 4 года назад +1

      Tyrael would be proud

  • @andreabozzano9819
    @andreabozzano9819 4 года назад +633

    "His eternal suffering awaits!"
    Ah, so there's Heroes of the Storm down there.

    • @simonasnavasaitis2190
      @simonasnavasaitis2190 4 года назад +13

      To think about it, the maw did remind me of the nexus a little bit :D

    • @Destroyer2150
      @Destroyer2150 4 года назад +1

      Also Starcraft Ghosts

    • @smorior709
      @smorior709 4 года назад +2

      Hahahaha best comment ever bro omg this made my day

    • @jhonnybravo3142
      @jhonnybravo3142 4 года назад

      Lul

    • @demonpride1975
      @demonpride1975 4 года назад +1

      ohhh ohhohhhhh that was a good one, touche dude.

  • @CaptainRezo
    @CaptainRezo 4 года назад +2278

    YOU WERE MY BROTHER ARTHAS!!!
    YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE UNDEAD, NOT JOIN THEM

    • @glorilol9546
      @glorilol9546 4 года назад +138

      I HATE YOU!

    • @NitroPulsar
      @NitroPulsar 4 года назад +104

      But Uther had the low ground

    • @CaptainRezo
      @CaptainRezo 4 года назад +120

      @@NitroPulsar But he had the MORAL HIGHGROUND.

    • @Rythmguitarable
      @Rythmguitarable 4 года назад +16

      Uther considers Arthas as his own nephew

    • @serillian6742
      @serillian6742 4 года назад +36

      It's over, Arthas! I have Consecration!

  • @0That_Guy0
    @0That_Guy0 4 года назад +160

    This is beyond sad. The part of Uther's soul that was trapped within Frostmourne chose to forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was and not the monster he became. I hope the two souls of Uther meet up somehow, and that this broken Uther will be mended/convinced by the Uther from the blade; and to let go.

    • @ChilliDogDave
      @ChilliDogDave 3 года назад +11

      this comment aged well

    • @rathzo1800
      @rathzo1800 Год назад +1

      ​@@ChilliDogDavewhat happened ???

    • @MrSergeantglitter
      @MrSergeantglitter Год назад +5

      @@rathzo1800 Bad Uther betrayed the bad guys after finding out they were serving the Maw, finds out his soul is split, the players help him join his fragmented soul, he relives his death, and then joins the blue people

  • @jasperbakker261
    @jasperbakker261 4 года назад +1108

    Be careful who you stab with a soul-stealing blade in high-school.

  • @thund3rbird738
    @thund3rbird738 4 года назад +1320

    "I see.. A big blue woman... Before me..."

    • @Lunsterful
      @Lunsterful 4 года назад +110

      "I see... only wokeness... before me..."

    • @jordancallahan5893
      @jordancallahan5893 4 года назад +8

      I laughed too hard idk why

    • @phantom0456
      @phantom0456 4 года назад +9

      I seriously couldn’t stop laughing when I read this 🤣

    • @josephparrotta1159
      @josephparrotta1159 4 года назад +12

      "No King survives on res sickness, my son"

    • @merlinboshoff1052
      @merlinboshoff1052 4 года назад +5

      @@Lunsterful so right

  • @Umirua
    @Umirua 4 года назад +595

    "There is no evil in Bastion"
    Jailer: "Bonjour"

    • @ZakhadWOW
      @ZakhadWOW 4 года назад +13

      Jailer is in THE MAW< not Bastion

    • @vansserafim
      @vansserafim 4 года назад

      in the shadowlands

    • @Wayclarke
      @Wayclarke 4 года назад +2

      Le Jailleur! I neaux it beaufaire I could smelle jeure stenche! Sou jeu ars behinde suisse! >:O

    • @ReptarTheUgly
      @ReptarTheUgly 4 года назад +2

      Jailer isn’t bad, he’s a natural being that was betrayed

    • @Staklihen
      @Staklihen 4 года назад

      @@Wayclarke The Jailer in french is le Geôlier.

  • @Cryorex
    @Cryorex 2 года назад +590

    Turns out this was pure lore bait. 9.2 did Arthas dirty.

  • @TheOrchidEater
    @TheOrchidEater 4 года назад +93

    Hearing "Arthas, My Son" and seeing Arthas, either in the Wraith of the Lich King trailer or the in-game cinematic where we defeat him, always hits me in the feels... always.

  • @HavocParadox
    @HavocParadox 4 года назад +234

    i wont lie.. the extreme sadness in his eyes when he says "he was my student" was heartbreaking. 3:24

    • @Thyralon
      @Thyralon 4 года назад +7

      Also is cry of pain when his a part of his soul gets trapped in frostmourne...

    • @onesi376
      @onesi376 4 года назад +2

      get a life. a real one!

  • @definitelynotdio8500
    @definitelynotdio8500 4 года назад +473

    IT WAS UTHER HIMSELF ALONG WITH DEVOS WHO MADE IT SO THAT ARTHAS SAW ONLY DARKNESS BEFORE HIM AND TOSSED HIM RIGHT IN THE MAW. AMAZING CINEMATIC HOLY POG

    • @AwesomeTheAsim
      @AwesomeTheAsim 4 года назад +37

      They connected it good

    • @krekykrek6891
      @krekykrek6891 4 года назад +29

      wow you managed to tell us what we can see in the cinamatic.

    • @isawdavis
      @isawdavis 4 года назад +1

      im lost, can you explain? I dont really know wow lore.

    • @Tr0y0verP0werzU
      @Tr0y0verP0werzU 4 года назад +8

      @@isawdavis At the end of WOTLK and killing the lich king(arthas) His last words were "I see, Only darkness, before me" so it's foreshadowing what happened in the sidelines of when he officially died by our hands(and tirion) back sometime in 2010. So they connected the consistency fairly well in this regard.

    • @hedizaoui609
      @hedizaoui609 4 года назад +29

      @@isawdavis When you die you normally go to a realm in the Shadowlands that closely represents your beliefs, for example most Druids go to Ardenweald, where they become animal spirits that aid in the eternal cycle of regrowth of the world, by tending to nature and animal spirits, Selfless people, heroes and justicars go to Bastion, where they forget their mortal lives to become passer for the dead, bringing souls from the mortal realm to the Shadowlands
      There's an infinite amount of realms in the Shadowlands, all tailored to specific people, but of course since this is a game we only have access to 5
      I'm guessing Arthas felt heavy remorse upon his death, which should have sent him to Revendreth, a realm where souls go to atone for their sins to find peace by accepting them, but Devos and Uther snatched his soul at the moment of his death and threw him in the Maw instead, a realm of eternal darkness that is used to jail the worst of the worst, the unredeemable, the monsters of the world, basically condemning him to everlasting pain and suffering out of "Justice", hence why he sees "only darkness"

  • @zakkiworld
    @zakkiworld 4 года назад +95

    5:22 I was 11 the first time I heard this theme. I am 22 now. It's existed for half of my lifetime and it still gives me goosebumps :]

  • @PlanetSerenityMoonKfamily
    @PlanetSerenityMoonKfamily 4 года назад +633

    The feels... When Uther says 'He was my student'.. so much pain.

    • @marcusc9931
      @marcusc9931 4 года назад +33

      "I loved you, Anakin!"

    • @jbutler8585
      @jbutler8585 4 года назад +16

      Her line right before that too; a soul being damaged like that is not only rare but also an unthinkable act.

    • @sninctbur3726
      @sninctbur3726 4 года назад +5

      He was _MY_ student...

    • @KhamTVinc
      @KhamTVinc 3 года назад +5

      Like he failed him... Uther is feeling guilty for failing Arthas.

    • @rara9333
      @rara9333 2 года назад

      Can't imagine how uther feels now

  • @Sallahn
    @Sallahn 4 года назад +1336

    Everyone: He's not gonna throw him, it's not a very uther-thing to do.
    Uther: *YEET*
    Everyone: *surprised pikachu face*

    • @thestalwartinefromstalwart4126
      @thestalwartinefromstalwart4126 4 года назад +9

      I almost choked on my Corn Chex when I was reading this comment.

    • @TheChrysaora
      @TheChrysaora 4 года назад +25

      I dont want Uther to be vengeful, I want him to save his soul. :(

    • @CaptainIcebeard
      @CaptainIcebeard 4 года назад +52

      @@TheChrysaora In this video he wasn't vengeful. Arthas was beyond forgiveness. This was retribution. He clearly had doubts at the end, so he was even still considering forgiveness, but decided that regardless of his feelings, Arthas deserved punishment.

    • @RaskaTheFurry
      @RaskaTheFurry 4 года назад +65

      @@CaptainIcebeard He deserved punishment, but not of this measure, of eternal damnation and suffering. Arthas was only trying to help his people until the whispers from Frostmourne corrupted him.
      We can see him coming to senses after his defeat in ICC. What he did as undead king.... it wasnt him.

    • @WitcherCrow
      @WitcherCrow 4 года назад +41

      @@CaptainIcebeard Arthas did nothing wrong. The first soul that Frostmourne took was his.

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 4 года назад +1105

    Everyone: "So Bastion are the good guys, right?"
    Blizzard:

    • @dritzzjoney
      @dritzzjoney 4 года назад +10

      Yeah def a 180 there

    • @SanctuaryofWanderhome
      @SanctuaryofWanderhome 4 года назад +8

      @@Adradiauwu definitely the good guys.

    • @goblinpresident4234
      @goblinpresident4234 4 года назад +34

      I reckon they are still the good guys, only with rigid outdated ways

    • @CueCN
      @CueCN 4 года назад +111

      The world is multidimensional. Grow up kids, it’s not a two-side coin 🤣🤣

    • @CueCN
      @CueCN 4 года назад +5

      Let’s defeat the Archon 🤣

  • @augustdubrovskiy2795
    @augustdubrovskiy2795 4 года назад +33

    That “epic orchestral music” subtitle killed all the drama and made me smile

  • @scope1812
    @scope1812 4 года назад +336

    we’re not talking about Devos’ delivery of “the path is FLAWED!” nearly enough. what a line read.

    • @hydromancer4916
      @hydromancer4916 4 года назад +5

      it was honestly really bad imo, the voice actor sounds like she's constipated

    • @JackyMan22
      @JackyMan22 4 года назад +28

      @@hydromancer4916 I think the voice is fine. o_o

    • @zsoltsiro1310
      @zsoltsiro1310 4 года назад +19

      Yes she is SUUUPER EPIC

    • @slayeddreamer3820
      @slayeddreamer3820 4 года назад +8

      She must be the same voice actress as Sylvanas.

    • @lobscotch8802
      @lobscotch8802 4 года назад

      Ngl, first few times I thought she said 'blind' :p

  • @Pally-Main
    @Pally-Main 4 года назад +297

    Friendship with VENGEANCE over
    Now JUSTICE is my best friend

  • @galahadcf
    @galahadcf 4 года назад +224

    Oh man seeing Arthas' death gave me chills. The music, man. This was beautiful.

    • @fezzverbal
      @fezzverbal 4 года назад +12

      I adore the Arthas music, it's so haunting and feels so lonely yet beautiful.

    • @Paveway-chan
      @Paveway-chan 4 года назад +3

      Same song as in the WOTLK trailer.

    • @acers09
      @acers09 4 года назад +1

      @@fezzverbal for real. a decade later and it's still relevant

  • @Deo91
    @Deo91 4 года назад +122

    I just hate what we have to do to Devos, and so early in expansion... Such a great character!

    • @Smoked786
      @Smoked786 3 года назад +21

      Underrated comment. Devos was indeed a great character.

    • @Solus5048
      @Solus5048 3 года назад +19

      Another example of the cinematic team carrying the whole franchise

  • @Gabrielbarsch
    @Gabrielbarsch 4 года назад +3926

    0:16 wait a minute, you can't train abominations in this mission

    • @Damian.99
      @Damian.99 4 года назад +225

      Lmao good point.

    • @HunterKillerSub
      @HunterKillerSub 4 года назад +161

      Either that or one those footmen/knights must've been really tall.

    • @capitanleon9570
      @capitanleon9570 4 года назад +68

      straight facts right here

    • @StainderFin
      @StainderFin 4 года назад +15

      Uther can Arthas was stupid

    • @caffemocca8855
      @caffemocca8855 4 года назад +92

      AnOtHeR bLizZaRd InCoNsIsTeNcY!

  • @Wisdomball
    @Wisdomball 4 года назад +284

    "Justice demands retribution!" Uther - Every 5 minutes

    • @mish7727
      @mish7727 4 года назад +5

      because Bliz never gave Ret pallys a chance after 3.3...

    • @ryanhoar3357
      @ryanhoar3357 4 года назад +5

      @@mish7727Ret was beast in Legion and Mists imo

    • @PedroHawk1
      @PedroHawk1 4 года назад +1

      I wonder...

    • @dwtdwtdwt
      @dwtdwtdwt 4 года назад

      It's on a cooldown.

  • @ukaszstrzelecki9157
    @ukaszstrzelecki9157 4 года назад +577

    The way Arthas looks like after death... So calm... so innocent...

    • @De_Nome
      @De_Nome 4 года назад +114

      I am guessing that Arthas will get help from the players to get out of the Maw and eventually save the Shadowlands.

    • @ukaszstrzelecki9157
      @ukaszstrzelecki9157 4 года назад +80

      @@De_Nome that would be an awesome redemption arc! And getting a chance to see noble and honorable Arthas as he has been before Frostmourne corrupted him. He would probably feel terrible for all of the things he has done, he said he is sorry and give himself to the Maw willingly.... Beautiful!

    • @Justaguywithglassesok
      @Justaguywithglassesok 4 года назад +40

      just picture arthas as the new Arbiter, now that would be some good redemption.

    • @AussieRider20
      @AussieRider20 4 года назад +46

      @@Justaguywithglassesok I think he'd be better as the Jailer. I think he felt true regret for what he did before his corruption and blamed himself for what happened afterwards so choosing to remain behind in the Maw as penance and to ensure no one ever does what the current Jailer is doing again would be a fitting end to his story.

    • @Justaguywithglassesok
      @Justaguywithglassesok 4 года назад +2

      @@AussieRider20 hmm i agree

  • @Dinghys
    @Dinghys 2 года назад +236

    They should've done so much more with Devos. She along with Denathrius were the two big highlights of the xpac, and they were both taken out waaay too early.

    • @KingMidgardsormr
      @KingMidgardsormr 2 года назад +10

      On the brightside Denathrius has been kept alive so he will return.

    • @corksterx1
      @corksterx1 2 года назад +26

      it's even worse than this - players who were never Kyrian barely even know who Devos was. Absolutely criminal.

    • @Xgamerwoo
      @Xgamerwoo 2 года назад +20

      They killed off Devos and admitted she was right smh

    • @hilordofgraouh6829
      @hilordofgraouh6829 Год назад

      What about Nathanos the Forgotten ? x)

  • @Johnny12Hats
    @Johnny12Hats 4 года назад +223

    when 'Arthas My Son' kicks in oof.. ima need a minute

    • @TomasJonssonPlus
      @TomasJonssonPlus 4 года назад +2

      My gut shot comes when the original lich king OST starts playing around 3 minutes, godamn.

    • @Natha_Kun
      @Natha_Kun 4 года назад +1

      still 1 of the best expansions

    • @yasou7311
      @yasou7311 4 года назад

      Yesssss.....And i think he'll be back

    • @Cro1232cro
      @Cro1232cro 4 года назад

      An... Karanir... Thanagor....

    • @yasou7311
      @yasou7311 4 года назад

      @@Cro1232cro The song is so sad but badass enough to make Arthas back for all of us🤧
      I am ready for another An..Karanir.thanagor but this time its pure Arthas🥳

  • @Jazy1993
    @Jazy1993 4 года назад +1397

    "He destroyed my home, murdered my people and my king... He must be punished."
    "He got his Invincible mount stolen by a bunch of over-levelled losers going for a transmog run, I think that's enough punishment."

    • @roly8002
      @roly8002 4 года назад +8

      🤣

    • @VintageNarwhal
      @VintageNarwhal 4 года назад +3

      omg xD

    • @Sadistichippo
      @Sadistichippo 4 года назад +10

      When we go back to ICC to farm invincible are we fighting Arthas or are we fighting Bolvar cosplaying as Arthas?

    • @stjepan9439
      @stjepan9439 4 года назад +3

      @@SadistichippoIts Arthas lol. Diferent time diferent ewerything. What is in northrend with purpous it stais in that time no mater from what storry line you com to farm!!!!
      Its like. You com from present to paste to farm it caus you feal strong and owergeared.

    • @deathi
      @deathi 4 года назад +2

      i didnt steal it yet. 223x2 attempts no mount

  • @Obviat
    @Obviat 4 года назад +196

    Even after what he did, i've felt sadness seeing how Uther senteces him in to the Maw.

    • @TheClarkBark
      @TheClarkBark 4 года назад +23

      His soul was corrupted after claiming Frostmourne, it’s not 100% on him. Stratholme is on him that’s about it.

    • @Clorgisclorg
      @Clorgisclorg 4 года назад +4

      Probably would’ve gone there anyway. No evil spirits told him to murder an entire city, or burn boats, or slaughter allies when they weren’t useful anymore.

    • @Shjandy
      @Shjandy 4 года назад +20

      @@Clorgisclorg he was the necessary evil in order to curb the plague before it got out of hand. Otherwise it was let everyone become undead and strengthen the ranks of the scourge

    • @gamermagazin3116
      @gamermagazin3116 4 года назад +9

      @@Clorgisclorg Arthas has been broken at that point. He saw an unstopable enemy and he lost his mental health in the war. Thats why he killed. He wasnt himself.

    • @Zolkte
      @Zolkte 4 года назад +13

      @@Clorgisclorg an entire city full of people infected with a plague that had no cure which would turn them into undead that would potentially hurt even more innocent people.

  • @tezzi2544
    @tezzi2544 4 года назад +70

    “The moment he falls”. That line sticks with me, I love the sheer confidence that eventually he will fail.

    • @EvilTeabags
      @EvilTeabags 3 года назад +12

      "No king rules forever, my son."

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад +1

      Not "fall", but he WILL eventually fall.

  • @ЕгорМиронов-щ3п
    @ЕгорМиронов-щ3п 4 года назад +176

    And take your vengeance!
    Uther: Hmmm... I wonder... Let me think... OH! Justice demands retribution!

    • @lordyrich
      @lordyrich 4 года назад +5

      The lights justice has failed

    • @BobBob-pz1sd
      @BobBob-pz1sd 4 года назад +3

      @@lordyrich There is only my justice now.

    • @lordyrich
      @lordyrich 4 года назад +7

      @@BobBob-pz1sd his attack quote is "Fall by my hand"
      HS predicted the ending lol

  • @ianpatterson2333
    @ianpatterson2333 4 года назад +333

    Illidan: Vengeance is mine!
    Uther: Not vengeance , Justice.
    Illidan: Vengeance!
    Uther: Justice.
    Illidan: Vengance!
    Uther: Justice.
    Illidan: Vengeance!
    Uthe - well, you get the point.

    • @nobelmassinaarben2467
      @nobelmassinaarben2467 4 года назад

      Victory to Lord Illidan!

    • @trungle6619
      @trungle6619 4 года назад

      maiev: JUSTICE!!!

    • @maximnikolaev6627
      @maximnikolaev6627 4 года назад

      @Van Do I will say that illidan has a great personality for what his story is given to him, while arthas has an amazing story and makes his decisions very human in comparison to illidan who is drunk with power to begin with, while arthas was corrupted over time to become drunk with power. (To be fair to illidan, being in prison for 1000+ years can do that to a person)

    • @seirnox
      @seirnox 4 года назад

      Pa-weep graw-naw weep ninni-bung!

  • @TheTenchii
    @TheTenchii 4 года назад +610

    Well if Arthas is in the Maw then thats where im gonna stay...

  • @ultraviper1884
    @ultraviper1884 4 года назад +135

    "he murdered my people" well you did kinda just stand by and let him do that instead of, you know, try to stop him.

    • @joe_mama_
      @joe_mama_ 4 года назад +3

      IM DEAD 💀

    • @RandomDueler
      @RandomDueler 4 года назад +22

      He knew it had to be done but he also knew he couldn't bring himself to do it
      Hence the choice to walk away
      It's an extremely sticky situation - You either
      1)Betray the crown prince, essentially commit treason, and thus cause the blight to spread across Azeroth, killing everyone'
      or the much easier choice
      2)Walk away

    • @rumanakhation3218
      @rumanakhation3218 4 года назад +9

      "What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
      "Glad you could make it, Bluether"
      "Alright, into the maw you go."

    • @Levitiy
      @Levitiy 4 года назад +12

      But really, deep down we all know that Uther knew that Arthas was spitting straight facts. He had to raze Stratholme to rubble before the people got bitey and infectious.

    • @Zoozio
      @Zoozio 4 года назад +4

      He was talking about the whole of lordaeron

  • @zandroamador4491
    @zandroamador4491 4 года назад +315

    *Arthas while being choked by Uther*
    Arthas: "Glad that you made it, Uther."
    *Uther throws Arthas down the maw pissed off*

    • @cthulwho9125
      @cthulwho9125 4 года назад +17

      *Glad I could make it, Arthas*

    • @MandatoryHandle
      @MandatoryHandle 4 года назад +15

      Watch your tone with me, boy. You may be dead, but I'm still your superior as a Kyrian.

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +1

      @@MandatoryHandle "Shut up Uther"

    • @DevoutSkeptic
      @DevoutSkeptic 4 года назад +10

      @@MandatoryHandle As if I could forget. Listen, Uther. There's something about the Maw you should know.

  • @odiw2509
    @odiw2509 4 года назад +528

    Vindictive/vengeful angels are terrifying.
    “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”

    • @philcollins5457
      @philcollins5457 4 года назад +23

      “Would you really want to meet an angel? Eternal servant of the Lord with one wing forever dipped in blood?”

    • @teegee6403
      @teegee6403 4 года назад +9

      Sounds very neckbeard tbh

    • @MEGAroflmaoXD
      @MEGAroflmaoXD 4 года назад +20

      ah, fellow Name of the Wind fan :)

    • @SanctuaryofWanderhome
      @SanctuaryofWanderhome 4 года назад

      They should be the most terrifying, pray you never deserve their righteous Justice.

    • @sympathism
      @sympathism 4 года назад +5

      "...nothing in the world is harder than convincing someone of an unfamiliar truth"
      Book 3 when

  • @CrazyHeavyDude
    @CrazyHeavyDude 4 года назад +103

    My god, Uthers voice actor is insainly talented

    • @thelich6588
      @thelich6588 4 года назад +5

      Same voice actor of lich king and deathwing

    • @CrazyHeavyDude
      @CrazyHeavyDude 4 года назад +1

      @@thelich6588 doooooode yesssss. Thats awesome

    • @xadamx94
      @xadamx94 4 года назад

      rxr1122 no it’s not. Same as kel Thuzad

    • @thelich6588
      @thelich6588 4 года назад

      @@xadamx94
      He is the lich king and deathwing voice actor also
      check by yourself if you don't believe me

  • @FreakyIbanez
    @FreakyIbanez 4 года назад +42

    2:50 this Voice Actor.... his trembling voice.... such a good Job!!

    • @dcauchy5870
      @dcauchy5870 3 года назад

      And the music is beautiful

  • @sadaflotfi9152
    @sadaflotfi9152 4 года назад +470

    Remeber, Arthas, we are paladins...''
    ''Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do, if we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, we will become as vile as the orcs.''

    • @saifallahghidhaoui1853
      @saifallahghidhaoui1853 4 года назад +46

      For Uther, this is justice for Arthas's atrocities .

    • @madzaisa
      @madzaisa 4 года назад +42

      Yep, he is as consistent as Jaina and Thrall. Or Saurfang and his "honor" he shift around as he please.

    • @H240909
      @H240909 4 года назад +40

      “Justice demands retribution”

    • @RandomizerYevhen
      @RandomizerYevhen 4 года назад +15

      @@madzaisa everyone has to reevaluate their ideals once in a while.

    • @dalimilmatousek4074
      @dalimilmatousek4074 4 года назад +49

      "Not vengeance. Justice."