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What does the Bible say about homosexuality?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2020
- What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Nothing - at least, nothing directly. Find out why by watching the video.
I explain why what we think might be the 'plain meaning of scripture' can mislead us when looking at ancient understandings of sexuality, and what that means when using scripture to talk about the Bible and homosexuality or same-sex attraction.
If you want a more in-depth look at this whole area, Affirmative is a book based on my website, with extra resources and some points covered in more depth. You can get it from all major booksellers here: books2read.com/Affirmative
You can find more resources and links to some of the scholarship at www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/...
Bible and Homosexuality is a channel looking at what the Bible says (and doesn't say) about homosexuality, sexuality and gender. You can find out more at www.bibleandhomosexuality.org
This is why it is so important to have the historical context of everything because it helps people understand
Hi, and thanks for the kind comment. Appreciated.
@Caleb Urias God made marriage for man and woman, sure. Two men are men and two women are women, so no problem there.
But no, the Bible does not say that anything outside that is an abomination. You must be confusing it with something else.
My husband and I are seeking answers about homosexuality in the Bible. Trying to understand the arguments for both sides. The people who are saying it’s bad and the people saying it’s ok. We are still seeking but I just found your videos last night and I think I watched most of them. Thay were vary helpful and informative and I just wanted to say thank you!
Hi Natalie - thanks for the kind comment. I'm glad if you've found these helpful - that's why I created the channel! And I hope you and your husband are getting a better understanding.
I’m doing this also! I recommend Kathy baldock and James white if you’re looking at both sides
Ephesians 5:6-12
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
(This was written long before the Roman empire, as the Bible said there is nothing new under the sun, men have always gone astray in this way)
Deuteronomy 12:29-32
“When the Lord your God cuts off before you the nations whom you go in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, take care that you be not ensnared to follow them, after they have been destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods?-that I also may do the same.’ You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way, for every abominable thing that the Lord hates they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. “Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it
The Bible is clear people have been doing these things for a long time, and we are called to be set apart, which is why we don't do them. If a non save is gay and a supposed saved is gay, then what is the difference? How can we tell them apart? What is setting you apart from them if you think and behave as them?
There are so many more ways to be different from others. We are called to be loving, giving and forgiving people. We can be set apart by being radical in our love for others, because we do not need to focus on money, power or status, like the world does. And we can choose to be monogamous, believing in faithfulness as the only basis for relationships.
@@jurjenvanderlaan8690 ok just don't justify homophobia
Even though "christianity" teaches brotherly Love as Jesus did, most "christians" are often judgmental towards those who don't share their beliefs or who are simply different; and most "christians" often don't recognize the hypocritical nature of their judgments.
In this way, Satan [the ego] has corrupted "christianity"; and most "christians" don't seem to recognize this or try to correct this.
Instead, most "christians" tend to fuel a sense of self-righteousness and superiority that too often leads to conflict with those who don't agree with them.
That is not what Jesus taught!
Jesus taught: Love your neighbor as yourself.
Jesus did not say: Love your neighbor only if he or she is like you; or Love your neighbor only if he or she is "christian"; or Love your neighbor only if he or she is heterosexual.
Jesus taught that our neighbor is not different than us, that everyone is the same in the eyes of God, that everyone is God; the same kingdom of heaven is within everyone.
This applies whether homosexuality is sinful or not. We should love all sinners and Christians alike: as Jesus would. I'm still not sure whether homosexuality is a sin or not but I do think that it doesn't really matter that much. I don't struggle with any gender dysphoria or sexual orientation questioning, so for me I just try to love and respect everyone else no matter how sinful they are. We are all sinners, only in different ways.
@@belalaloca:
Any idea or belief that is not of Love, that separates one person from another; was and is not part of Jesus' teachings, not part of the Truth.
If you want to take away one thing from Jesus' teachings, let it be: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And don't forget to add the importance of forgiveness: forgive yourself and others.
These two things are what Jesus came to teach! These two simple teachings alone will transform us and change the world.
@@belalaloca:
Also! The Love that is within Jesus is also within everyone. Love is our true nature as much as it is Jesus'.
That means that it is possible for us to Love as Jesus did. That was and is Jesus' message, not that we are sinners and that the only possibility for happiness is in heaven.
Jesus came to earth to show us that it is possible to Love and to encourage us to do so. Jesus came to earth, not to bring Love and then leave, but to ignite the Love within us; to show us that we could be a Christ.
It is our destiny to live as Love, and Jesus came to show us how to do that. That was and is the purpose of Jesus' teachings.
Not a judgement from me. Just a warning to those who wish to continue in sin. As a heterosexual man I struggle with lust as many do. Out of love for my fellow man, there is only a wish that they become aware of God's judgment.
@@norm1158
You must understand fully and clearly-that God possesses none of the human attributes.
The human characteristics of anger, threats and punishment-for instance-only pertain to the human condition.
So beware and do not allow yourself to be intimidated by "fear" and "threats" of God.
Remember, you are not on earth to "please" God, as religious teachers may tell you. You are on earth to "express" God and to make ever closer and closer contact with God-until you become free of the magnetic-emotional bondage.
When Jesus was on earth, he URGED people to UNCONDITIONALLY FORGIVE and to ABSTAIN from JUDGMENT, CRITICISM and CONDEMNATION.
But religious teachers have misinterpreted this as meaning you must "please" God by loving others and abstaining from negative emotions.
But this is not what Jesus meant at all. God is not "pleased" by our behavior.
We are masters of our fate in that we always "reap what we sow." All that Jesus has taught have been directed at giving us details of how to avoid sowing weeds in our vegetable patch-how to remain healthy, happy and prosperous.
The time will come in your spiritual development when you will awaken to the enormous gift you have in your head-the gift of creative, intelligent thinking, and you will also become aware of the enormous responsibility you bear towards the way you use it.
I love this video, thank you so much!
Glad you liked it - thanks for the feedback!
honestly I was myself really worried about what to think about it all. thank you so much for making this video and explaining everything from a grounded perspective. it helped the uneasy feeling that I had about having attraction to the same sex almost disappear. God loves us all unconditionally and I think this is even more proof
Hi, glad that you found it helpful - I appreciate your kind comments.
I’ve watched a good number of your videos and I really appreciate how well thought out these are and I have shared this channel with others.
“Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.”
- Ephesians 4:15
Thank you for the feedback - it's great to hear that you've found it helpful
I took the time to watch all of your videos and I wanted to say a big thank you for all these informations. They helped me to be a bit less ashamed by myself.
Hi - so glad to know that you've found them helpful.
Waiting for a follow up on this! Also just wanted to ask. Did you ever hold the traditional evangelical view? And if it's that the case, what made you change your mind? Much love from a gay Christian who is caught up between the debates not knowing whether or not I should just be celibate or not.
@Access Denied I am well aware and have been praying for it. Thanks so much,
@Access Denied Did you personally grapple with this? Do you know anyone I can talk to? Thanks so much!
@Access Denied oh I meant someone who is an ex-gay, I guess?
@Access Denied Thanks so much! I am just open to all stories.
While this (transformation of desires) does happen, it is extremely rare. Most people who are offered 'conversion therapies' end up suffering poor mental health as a result, which is why it is outlawed in some countries and why medical organisations uniformly condemn it as bad practice. Some of the founders of the ex-gay ministries many years later repented of their actions. As an example, check out Courage UK: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courage_UK
Be extremely cautious of anyone offering any type of conversion therapy.
Do you have a video on the Leviticus verse? I totally understand the view points on the NT verses and the Sodom and Gomorrah one.
I keep getting confused about the view point in favour of homosexuality from that verse. That is what gets me sitting on the fence.
Hi Jane, thanks for the question. You can find my video on Leviticus here - ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html , or you can also find a transcript on my website, where there's a bit of additional information on some of the academic arguments over the Levitical verses: www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/does-leviticus-mean-homosexuality-is-an-abomination/. Hope this helps.
In addition to this video I’ve also watched your video in which you addressed the 1 Cor 6 passage. I appreciated your straightforward,
unemotional approach to both passages. Your assessment of the 1st
century Roman world was helpful.
As a Bible teacher I am disinterested in necessarily
affirming homosexual behavior or denying it. Rather, I am interested in knowing
the truth; I want to know if either of these positions pleases or displeases
God. Living for God’s pleasure should be the highest calling of anyone who calls themselves a follower of Jesus.
If it can be successfully argued that the NT does not forbid
persons from engaging in modern-understood, committed, same-sex relationships
(which seems to be your position), it still might not be wise to teach that
these relationships glorify God (I’m not saying that you do). An argument of
silence might be a risky endeavor - especially for those who teach (Jas. 3:1).
Presently, I am swayed by the argument that all sexual
behavior that falls outside the boundaries of marriage is wrong. This would
include, but not be limited to, male/female, male/male, and female/female
activity. Marriage appears to be defined in Gen 2:24, affirmed by Jesus in Matt
19:4-6, and echoed by Paul (Eph. 5:31) as male/female.
I am continuing my quest for understanding.
Hi featherdrop, thanks for your comment. You are right that in the videos I have made, I have not made a positive case for affirming committed same-sex relationships, but have made a case that they are not forbidden in the passages usually used.
A positive case can be made, and I hope to do this in a future video. In soundbite form, it is that Acts 10 shows us that where we see God's Spirit at work, we should be extremely cautious in saying that such things or people are unclean or forbidden. There is much more to say on this, and no room here.
An argument for keeping silent may appear to be neutral, but in fact would just maintain the status quo. By default, it would be supporting the position that same-sex marriages are wrong and unbiblical.
Thanks once again for your thoughtful response.
Read Matthew 19:12..
Hi Marjorie, I comment on what the gospels say in this video: ruclips.net/video/fa2KvJ7SR4A/видео.html - hope you find it helpful!
Thanks for your videos. This is helping us to think through the various perspectives on same sex relationships. I have a question though: could you say something specifically about same sex marriage? In my mind it is one thing to be affirming of same sex relationships, but an entirely different thing to rework the traditional Christian understanding of marriage.
Understanding, attitudes, purpose and expectations of marriage vary across time and place. There is no "traditional" marriage. You'll see this in the Bible itself, which spans several cultures.
In patriarchal societies, marriage was seen as a dominant male having authority over a submissive female Eph 5.21, 1 Pet 3.1. The gospel, however, laid the seed for slow change over time 1 Pet 3.7, Gal 3.28 so that today marriage is seen as a partnership of equals. We do not and should not practice "traditional" marriage today, in spite of rhetoric you hear.
Marriage of two men or two women made no sense under patriarchy, for who would submit to whom? But it makes sense today.
Thanks. That is helpful. I think we have to speak of trajectories here.
@Caleb Urias Genesis did not "establish" marriage, it justified a pre-existing practice. It says nothing against same-secs marriage, which happens for precisely the same reasons with no contradiction to what Genesis says.
This is amazing! I am a christian and am pro lgbtqia+ and think this is a great counter to the common homophobia. Just as a question, i feel a common objection to what you have said may be “oh but these are possible meanings and interpretations. Even accounting for historical context its still a maybe this was what they potentially meant, but not a sure case”
Not saying i object just this could be an objection i can face. And a denfense i thought i can say to that is “buf the idea of homosexuality being bad is also another not sure interpretation too”
But they mag say “well when they were translating it over the years the original was long ago and the translated ones were also long ago. So they are quite close and maybe the first translation and interpretation was a better one cos they were closer to that time period and know the culture more than us in 2022. We are further away in time than the original translators so maybe we are less aware about their culture and language. So the ancient translation should be more accurate”
Again i am not on the opposite sides. Just taking a look at opposing points of view to be able to reach closer to the truth. But i feel that the objections i beought up can be disputed and debunked. Thank you!
I think this sermon is a good rebuttal to that: wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/assets/media/sermons/history_lessons-JesusMCC-2007-04-15.mp3
Thank you so much for this truth, brother. I need this...may Jesus bless you with this and we who struggle with our sexuality. It's so painful and exhausting...
Thanks - and God bless you.
Do not be deceived.
Saw you at Heywood Baptist Church a couple of weeks ago. A thought provoking and informative afternoon
Glad you found it helpful!
excellent presentation. shame it has so few views when other terribly ill-informed videos are so much more popular. are you planning to make any more videos?
I managed to find some parts of a history book "Roman Sexualities" available on google books. it confirms much of what you say and completely changed my understanding of what paul was talking about.
i knew that the words in 1 cor 6.9 were obscure and their relevance to this issue today was dubious. and i could not see how rom 1 could not possibly be referring to loving relationships. but it puzzled me what he was on about. until i researched ancient rome and figured it out.
in fact more recently i looked up rom 1 in greek and was shocked to see how it's sometimes been misinterpreted eg
- it says "males" not "men" when i've heard some claim it wasn't about boys
- it says "burned with appetite" when some claim it includes romantic relationships
- the expression "one another" does not necessarily imply mutual desire in greek as i've heard someone claim to justify that Paul is talking about consensual acts. even when it was consensual, it would have been prostitoots doing it for money, not samesecs attraction.
Hi MusicalRaichu, thanks for your kind comments - much appreciated!
@@BibleandHomosexuality are you making any more videos?
Are you going to make a video about what Timothy 1:8-10 says? I’m just curious! :)
Love your videos! They are very insightful
Hi Sky Dragon, thanks for the suggestion. Some of the aspects of 1 Tim 1:8-10 are covered in the video on 1 Corinthians, but Timothy does have some unique characteristics, so maybe I will at some point. But no immediate plans. Glad you love the videos - thanks!
Thanks so much! I’ll go back and rewatch the video, I must have missed it!
The connection is that both passages use the word arsenokoites - and I look at this word in the Corinthian video.
It's very interesting, hearing it from someone who is unbiased. You really have a lot to say, and I salute you my guy.
Thank you!
@@BibleandHomosexuality you're welcome
He's extremely biased and interprets scripture wrongly..
@@MrDrilla how so?
@@sindelscat9336 He has set out with his own agenda in mind and has interpreted the scriptures accordingly..
You could easily find 10 different commentaries that all align in their exposition of these Scriptures..
Yet this man stands alone in his interpretation..
He's treading dangerous grounds with his teachings, as teachers of the bible will be judged more harshly (James 3:1), therefore one needs to make sure that what they're teaching is truth..
Not just "your truth"
thank you for making this! i have dealt with extremely homophobic relatives and i have more evidence to prove what scripture says now
Glad if you've found it helpful - thanks.
Thank you, very informative. Just one question about Romans 1:26, 27 - you say the scripture translates as 'males with males' and not 'men with men' and that the former is a reference to pedestary. But in the original Approved King James 1611 Bible, the most authentic Bible version there is, it does indeed actually say in verse 27 'men with men'. What Bible version says males with males? This is an important question as many modern Bible versions are corrupted. Thank you
Hi, I go into this more in my video on Romans. But briefly, the KJV is a translation of the original texts, which were in Greek. The Greek uses a word which means 'male'. Often, this could be translated as 'men' without any loss. But in some contexts the nuance is important, and this is one of them. Hope this helps.
There is no corruption, just misinterpretation for those in denial of truth.
Can you make a video responding to the argument of: “This has been the official church teaching for 2000 years! Why change it now?”
My usual counter argument is that the early church used to think the sun revolves around the earth, and that many Christians used to believe slavery was ok by Biblical standards. I’m curious as to what you have to say about this, thank you for your hard work!
Hi, I don't know if I'll do a video on it, but my answer would probably revolve around the fact that the church hasn't been asked to seriously consider this issue until the last few decades. Effectively, this is the first time that the Church has had a proper discussion about whether same-sex marriage etc should be classified as sexual immorality or not.
Unforunately the answer is complex. This is the first time in history that we've had an objective scientific understanding that two men or two women can be in a committed relationship almost identical to a man and a woman. Also, it is misleading to identify modern teaching against homoxesuality with traditional church teaching.
In the early days of the faith, there were cultural issues that made both secs between two men and same-secs marriage problematic. As you read in the NT itself, marriage was understood as a dominant man and submissive woman. Two men/women made little sense. A man penetrated by another man was seen as taking a female role thus reneging all his male rights, a serious matter with social and legal implications. But the seeds planted by the gospel ("in Christ there is no male and female", "women as joint-heirs") have finally borne fruit now that we consider marriage a partnership of equals. It's only in recent times that it has made cultural sense.
Moreover, the church early on developed a deep suspicion of secs, promoting the belief that it should only be for reproduction. This seems to be the primary reason for the church's traditional rejection of secs and marriage between two men/women, nothing to do with what the Bible says. The idea that homoxesuality is inherently wrong dates from the mid 20th cent. The traditional belief is against so-do-my, not homoxesuality. Since most people now understand that sec has far more relevance to human relationships than reproduction, both secs and marriage between two men/women now make sense.
Furthermore, understanding why two men/women would want to have secs has eluded us. Sometimes it was seen as excessive lust, sometimes men did it deliberately as an act of domination to make themselves feel masculine, more recently it was seen as a mental disorder, so people thought ill of it. But in recent decades our scientific understanding has markedly improved, and we now see nothing pathological about it. Two men/women can be in a healthy, loving relationship just like a man and woman. New knowledge also played a part in the change of mind.
Does this help?
Sir how about masturbation? Is it bad to masturbate in the bible?
I don't think the Bible addresses this issue directly.
@@BibleandHomosexuality ok sir thanks for the reply.
Look if God said don’t do it! You don’t do it ….. you can’t talk your way out of it and no historian or no person for that matter can either
I can't speak for what God did or didn't say, but certainly the Bible never says not to do it. I recommend putting aside your preconceptions and considering the matter objectively.
@@MusicalRaichu Dumb
@@seandavis141 exactly, pure ignorance. people just misuse the bible to justify oppressing innocent people.
Can i message you though email youtube is deleting my comments
I had two articles that opposed your conclusion
Hi Bettina, I've got your email. I may take a while to respond, as I don't have time at the moment to go through the articles in detail.
@@BibleandHomosexuality ok, thank you no pressure. I know it seems a lot to add on to the pile of work that you have to produce, i just want to know your research on homosexuality when it appears in the Talmud and the Torah. Though is true that these two books are not part of our religion, however, it would provide more insight on homosexuality in jewish culture
@@BibleandHomosexuality hi I just want some updates on your analysis of the article
I need help. (Yes i know this video is really old)
In my understanding, God, accepts you whoever you are, because God is your creator, and forgives you as long as you ask God for forgiveness and show regret of your sins.
And i need help to figure out, if my understanding of Christianity is correct, or not.
(Sorry if my grammar is off, but english is not my native language)
You can be LGBT and Christian
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I calmly disaggre you cant be a christion and live in sin (leviticus 18 and 20) take time to read it pls😊😊Also i dont hate pple of the lgbtq i just dont aggre with it but i love everyone in the comunity♡︎♡︎Show me the Bible verse that proves your point and again I COMPLETELY respect your opinion
Hi Blacklives matter C - thanks for your respectful comment. I have a video that addresses Leviticus here: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html - I hope you find it helpful.
@@blacklivesmatterc7403 im bisexual and i really REALLY don't care is someone doesn't support the lgbt community, as long as u respect gay people, im fine with that.. i love bacon btw
@@blacklivesmatterc7403 You know there are many versions of the Bible, right? Some of them are incomplete, partial, and complete Bibles. This heavily indicated two things: neither Lord God Himself or Lord Jesus Christ Himself created the book and the Bible has been made by multiple generations. Many are translated and interpreted differently from one and another. Just using the English-language Bibles, that alone suggested they were created by men that spoke English, here are examples to support my claims. There are two versions of KJV, one made in 1611 and another made in 1769, spoken in Shakespearean language. KJV is famously known to be the "Authorized Version" in both UK and USA. Well, there's the Matthew's Bible, which was made in 1537. That Bible was made earlier than both KJV Bibles. There is the Woman's Bible, made both 1895 and 1898, after the KJV. And recent Bibles, like RNJB (completed) made in 2019, MCT recently made in 2019, and LSV made in 2020 😕 What makes any Bible made in English translation anymore credible than other Bibles made in different languages? I also want to point out the 1st Bible made in English-language is the Tyndale Bible, made in 1494-1536. Buuuuuut guess which Bible is considered to be the most accurate written, closest to the ancient manuscripts found thousands and thousands of years ago. It's the Codex Vaticanus, which has been historically and scientific proven as COMPLETE Bible in early 4th-century. I also want to point out that Bible isn't written in English, and is preserved currently in the Vatican Library. Oh, and the Geneva Bible is considered to be the most historically translations of the Bible into English, preceding the KJV. That actually says a lot. Shouldn't claim anything without being historically accurate, I'm a Christian and would rather hear the message of Lord God myself, thanks 😇
Thank you
Glad you liked it!
God tests our faith
Thank you for this video
God bless you
Hi Arath, thanks for the comment - appreciated.
I love this video!!! I am a gay Christian in a 12 year loving Christ-centered relationship. Thank you for giving clarity on this topic. I pray that Satan stops using the Bible to divide us Christians.
Glad you liked it!
Man this is crazy the Bible dies disks on homosexuality this man is blinding you all
@@faithmoss1979 what do you mean
This is so great!
Satan knows the bible, yes that's true. It is how the deception begins. The apostasy is in full swing. Just look around you.
“Secret Mark” scene might just describe a baptism, which in early Christianity had been done at night, all night, and fully naked it seems the early Christians had gotten a little licentious, and the scene with Jesus and the young man might provide the reason something on the level of a hypnotist, had an erotic scene with a young man scholars are particularly thrilled with “Secret Mark “which has a strong implication of homosexual love between Jesus and naked young man
This was very helpful and informative. Thank you. I hope this can convince my little brother that being gay is ok
Glad you liked it. I hope it helps you and your family.
No, No is not ok. This man is lie to you. Pleas accept the word of God as he said it in the Bible There’s no way around it.
Matthew 7:22-23
King James Version
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@@twinkiecakes6993 obviously you’re the one that doesn’t understand the bible. one day when the time comes, god will say he never knew you.
@@twinkiecakes6993 That's talking about Christians who virtue signal rather than helping others. It's not so much a statement as to whether homosexuality is immoral.
I have not seen you back any of your claims with scripture. In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Paul makes up a word Arsenokoitai which means “man-bed” literally. What’s interesting is Paul made up this word and he took it from Leviticus 20:13. If you read Leviticus 20:13 in Greek, you see the same word but as “arsenos koiten”. It’s a Biblical word he used, so Paul was referring to homosexuality in 1 Corinthians 6:9. You have no scripture from the Bible to back up your claims, and anyone can do the same thing you do to justify their sin. Catholics justify their idolatry to Mary, Mormons justify their belief on becoming gods, and anyone can take verses on not getting drunk to mean something else and say “You have to read it in context” which really means “You have to twist the scripture and take it out of context.” People were put to death for having sex with other men in Old Testament, because the law said the act of men having sex with men is an abomination. If a sign says “NO SMOKING” would you take that literally as to not smoke in that area or would you think the context was missing?
1 Cor 6.11 says "such were some of you", but people are incapable of changing who they're attracted to or removing their God-given need for companionship. Therefore, whatever male-bedder means, it does not mean homoxesual. A woman who likes women is hardly a male bedder. You misinterpret the Bible by using an anachronistic category.
I have a whole video on 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. Please do watch it.
In a little confused.
In contrast to the Southern Baptists, I belong to an American Baptist church that created a whole branch of the denomination that accepts gays and lesbians (LGBTQ+). From a philosophical point of view, Christ taught that loving God and loving your neighbor are the two great commandments that fulfill and really replace all the Old Testament laws as you have indicated. Paul in the love chapter of First Corinthians says that of faith, hope and love, that love is the most important Christian value. So, all the discriminatory and exclusive kind of rules in the Bible should be subservient to Christian love. If a Christian really believes in Christian love, he/she would understand and accept that. I think many Christian churches will eventually come around to understanding this and become lovers of all people instead of judgmental haters. With the exception of disbelief, is there any sin that Christ does not forgive?
The early scribes didn't know anything of punctuation. "Thou shalt not lie: with mankind, as with woman kind, it is abomination."
have to read the original hebrew text. like the original hebrew text never mentioned an apple in genesis. in hebrew it reads "perot". dont eat the perot from the tree of knowledge. Perot literally means FRUIT in hebrew. there is a lot of lost in translation in the modern bible.
also....in those times....to "know" somebody meant to have sexual relations with them. as in "adam knew his wife eve and she bared a child". yea.....a lot of words and means have been changed and to some it could lead to confusion. reading it in hebrew gives a closer meaning to the original message.
also are you suggesting you now where the punctuations should be? how do you know this? please give sources or some kind of evidence to your claim. because if this is the case....couldnt we add our own punctuations anywhere we please? how do we know what punctuations to use and where they should be?
The Bible makes it clear even in the new testament...they stopped using the word homosexual....they said it's detestable to God Men with other Men and visa versa
Hi, you'll be glad to know that I have a series of videos addressing the relevant texts in the New Testament. You can find the playlist here: ruclips.net/video/fa2KvJ7SR4A/видео.html
It is not detestable.
I was so afraid to watch this.. I am a lesbian person who is a satanist because I have this fear of being a Christian and being attacked by Christians, for me being a satanist is like a rebellion but also a protective lawyer.. I’m so happy that as a person I’m not sucidal anymore and I am happy that my life feels worth it
I am so sorry that you have felt the need for a protective layer against being a Christian or being attacked by Christians because of your sexuality. Should you wish to come/return to Christianity, there are many churches and some denominations where you can be fully accepted irrespective of one's sexuality.
And the book of the Leviticus 18:22 .20:13 Talks about man lying with man as an abomination and shall be put to death. Now this is the Old Testament. Romans 1:26-27 First corinthians 6:9-10 Jude:1:7 And if you're really serious about knowing what is right and wrong, read proverbs 1:31 You want it your way? Have it your way? Let them eat the fruit of their own way. God gave us all free will if you insist on doing things your way and thank god's okay with it. That's your business, but when you stand before God, the only thing the only thing the only thing that's going matter. What did you do that lined up with his agenda? Not sure's not mine, not this guy's gods. And you'd better be predaunt sure because he is
Hi Robert, I have videos addressing all the specific verses (except Jude, which isn't about homosexuality but human-angel intercourse).
Christians don"t live according to the acient jewish laws of leviticus. The laws of leviticus are outdated and idiotic. But christians love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. A fool's faith is dangerous. A fool will always misuse his faith out of his foolishness.
2 thessalonians 2
Also you could say the same about the oppression of female pastors. That the devil has already succeeded in getting them into church and preaching instead of a man. Instead now there are gay pastors
Hi, this is lazy denigration of those you disagree with. You haven't bothered with engaging with the Bible, just stated your own opinions.
@@BibleandHomosexuality I encourage you to make a video, on why you agreed with Homosexuality.
The Bible says it's an abomination and your spirit feels the offness too because God put it into us to know right and wrong
The Bible also says that poly-cotton clothing is an abomination. And eating ham or bacon. And cheeseburgers. And tattoos. You might want to check out the video I did: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html
This is just silly there are also doctors that say men can give birth 🙄
Musical Raichu, you there?
yes.
@@MusicalRaichu deviantart, huh?
@@folkishcarpet7779 if you like art and want to talk about it, then do it there. let's keep conversation here relevant to this specific video.
@@MusicalRaichu right, right. What were we talking about?
@@folkishcarpet7779 i think you were having trouble understanding what Jonathan was saying about something. we were having a long and complex discussion on the Israelite taboo about a "man/husband" having secs with a "male".
is this why the Bible only talks about men in homosexuality but it never says anything about a woman with a woman ?
The Bible doesn't mention homoxesuality. They didn't know about secs orientation back then. Males lying with with males in Rom 1.27 and likely in 1 Cor 6.9 are clearly not about homoxesuality.
The Bible was written in patriarchal culture. Men had the power to abuze and hurt people. Women with women didn't hurt anyone so there was no reason to mention it. But men married to women would have secs with men and boys too, and by Roman times it had become abusiv. That's why it came to Paul's attention.
Genesis 2, male and female. That's it that's all.
"The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution"
By: Carl R. Trueman
Modern Self : the triumph of Genesis 3, to be like gods.
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Timothy 4:3
Hi Pierre, I've made a video about Genesis. You can find it here:
ruclips.net/video/F4ljKuxHAJ4/видео.html
I hope you find it helpful.
That is why Jesus did not approve of the way Romans lived . Why don’t you look at Jewish laws ? That is why Jesus did not want us to live the way they lived .
Hey. Why didn't you mention Leviticus 20:13? Is it because it refutes your entire argument?
@Access Denied yeah. A question to any Christian LGBTQ supporters. Can you show me a verse where God says that man can be with other men? Otherwise, the anti-LGBTQ Christians have all the verses they need to say your revisionist.
@Access Denied that's my point
Hi Suggondesnughts, I don't mention Leviticus 20:13 in this video because I have an entire video that addresses it. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html
You can also find videos on Genesis 19 (Sodom); 1 Corinthians 6:9 and Romans 1:18-32. On the accompanying website I deal with Jude 7.
Hope this helps!
Just because something isn't in the Bible doesn't mean that it's wrong. I wear glasses; they aren't in the Bible. When I'm ill I take antibiotics. They aren't in the Bible. And RUclips isn't in the Bible either.
@@BibleandHomosexuality my comment was deleted
Thank you. God bless you
And he answered, and said unto them, "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
-Matthew 19:4-6 KJV
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; -Romans 1:26-28 KJV
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NIV
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Timothy 1:10 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. -Jude 1:7 KJV
Also has he forgot in The Book of Revelation, it says homosexuality won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and Jesus did mention Sexual Immorality which means all Sexual 'Practices' are forbidden except marriage.
Noun1 Sexual Immorality - the evil ascribed to sexual acts that violate social conventions. -Webster Dictionary 1828
Noun. Sodomy- Anal or Oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex.
-Webster Dictionary 1828
Anal Cancer: Those who have had cervical, vulvar or vaginal cancer have an increased risk of anal cancer. Human papillomavirus (HPV). HPV infection increases your risk of several cancers, including anal cancer and cervical cancer.
Jesus didn't said the word homosexual because it's a modern word, he did mention about Sodomy and Gomorrah, which are Describing homosexuality, in ancient word; therefore, word Pornea in Greek means Horlot which is prostitution.
Hi Israel,
You mention a range of biblical verses. Most of these, I have dealt with directly in my other videos. Can I suggest you go and check them out? I have videos on the gospels, Romans and 1 Corinthians, along with a video on Sodom.
I am unsure of the relevance of information about cancer or HPV, or using definitions of words that date from the nineteenth century rather than biblical times. It seems unrelated to the issue we are discussing.
@@BibleandHomosexuality you didn't know Webster was a Christian, and he wrote the Dictionary to describe meaning words of the Bible. The reason I use the 1828 and not the modern because the definition has been altered.
Your wrong there was sane sex marriage in Ancient Rome
Hi Nathan, thanks for the response. First, in referring to couples,I said something like 'But they mainly remained hidden from the rest of society - a secret that if it became known would destroy the reputation and honour of at least one of the couple.'
We have knowledge of a handful of male-male marriages over a period of hundreds of years. However, a few points:
Such marriages were not considered legal marriages by the state.
There was generally a hostile response from the rest of society to such weddings.
In particular, one of the males involved was perceived to have lost their gender as being male, and had become 'the woman'. The hostility was generally directed at this person.
The reason such weddings were deprecated was because the culture perceived relationships in active/masculine and passive/feminine categories. One man was giving up being a 'man' in such relationships in the eyes of society.
For more information, check out Williams (1999, 2010, 279-286).
So, as I said, any relationship between men destroyed the honour of at least one of the men involved.
Hope you find this helpful.
Bible and Homosexuality ok thanks. I found this very helpful. Also what is your next video going to be about?
Rom 1: 26&27
Hi Bryant, I have a whole video devoted to these verses. You can find it here:
ruclips.net/video/qkUytjBXXUg/видео.html
Most ridiculous thing I have heard doctrines of demons
It is more helpful if you have a specific criticism with the argument rather than just venting.
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13
Roman's 1:26-27
Jude 1:7
Romans 1:26-28
Mark 10:6-9
1 Corinthians 6:9'11
1 Timothy 1:8-11
Hebrews 13:1-5
Maybe you can explain how those verses are actually fitting your nonsensical opinion "reverend " I actually know 8 year old children with a better understanding of the word pray for this person
Hi 'Sean'. I have videos on Leviticus, on the gospels, on Romans, and on 1 Corinthians (which also addresses 1 Timothy). I cover Jude in various comments in my video on Sodom, and also in the associated website page. Hebrews talks about sexual immorality; we disagree about whether same-sex marriages are sexually immoral and relevant to these verses.
Ok will watch to see your explanation
Christians don"t live according to the acient jewish laws of leviticus. The laws of leviticus are outdated and idiotic. But christians love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. A fool's faith is dangerous. A fool will always misuse his faith out of his foolishness. Leviticus: when a man lie with a man as with a woman....I shall lie with whomever I please. It's n'one of anyone's business @@seandavis141
I guess I have to post my opinion a second time as it has seemed to have disappeared. You seem to carry on with how culture was back then but it still doesn't make it right. You have to remember that God destroyed Sodom and gormorah because if men sleeping with men was ok in God's eyes then they would have been spared.
Hi Tanya, the Bible doesn't say that Sodom was destroyed because of men sleeping with men. Check out my video here: ruclips.net/video/ZG2Ic-45tyE/видео.html
@@BibleandHomosexuality that wasn't the only reason that place was destroyed. It was one of the reasons. What I was trying to say that only 10 people in that whole place was righteous. And of those 10 people none of them slept with men or committed adults or any sin for that matter.
Hi Tanya, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Sodom was destroyed because men slept with men. Again, check out the video.
Hi Creative, you can check out my website page on Sodom, where I explain why the Jude passage isn't about homosexuality. As for the other passages you cite, I suggest you check out the videos I have made on each of them. The website page is here (the part on Jude is towards the bottom):
www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/what-has-sodom-got-to-do-with-homosexuality/
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. I am a former pastor, have a masters and doctorate in Biblical studies and a former professor in a Bible college. I am now a clinical chaplain. As a Spiritual leader I have delt with people struggling with this issue. I took it upon myself to research this topic and nail down the truth about the Bible and homosexuality. Before you start thinking I am a just an old, traditional, good-ol boy, from some backwoods Baptist church and I am 'closed minded' or whatever, the last five years of our pastorship was in a non-denominational church. As an evangelist and professor, I have ministered in and taught people from practically all denominations in existence. I conferred with the smartest Bible teachers and theologians on the planet. I spent time reviewing and studying with a professor that can speak fluent Greek and is a foremost expert in the New Testament Greek texts. I studied the Hebrew language diligently. I conferred with three different experts in the Hebrew language, even one Hebrew expert from a secular University that was an expert in religion that did NOT even claim to be a Christian, but was STILL one of the foremost scholars on Biblical translations. I spent 6 months studying with two researchers that were experts in Paulinian doctrines that had done a PhD dissertation on the topic of sexual orientations in the Bible. When I got my undergrad degree from a secular University, before attending a highly accredited and respected seminary, my minor studies was in Sociology of Religion. I was so schooled in the topic that I actually did a research paper on the topic that won a major term paper award. Mind you, that was even in a secular University (Kennesaw State University), the 3rd largest U in the state of Georgia (United States).
I'm telling you all of this, not to brag, but to let you know that I have researched everything there is know about this topic and what the Bible truly says on the topic. After all of this, here is the conclusion;
The Bible is clear....homosexuality is a sin. The original texts are not mistranslated. It is not interpreted wrong. It is not 'bad theology.' People have tried to twist it to appear this way. But the Old testament and new testament clearly tell us that God tells us that it is a sin.
You can pretend that it doesn't, but it does. I am not someone who just thinks that homosexuality is 'disgusting'. I think English peas are disgusting, but that doesn't make it a sin to eat them. It has nothing to do with what we 'think' about homosexuality. In fact, I had a young lesbian girl ask me 'Why does it have to be a sin? I am not hurting anyone. We love each other and we are not trying to push our lifestyle on anyone.' I had to answer her with the hard truth; It's a sin, only because said it was. Why? I'm not sure. I could offer theories, but the reality is, there are some things that are sin because God said 'I don't like it and don't do it.'
Does the Bible say that homosexuality is an 'abomination'? Yes it does. That was a focal point of my research to determine if that's what the Bible says and the original texts are clear. He includes that in a list of things that he said is an abomination (something that is detestable to Him).
Now it is NOT the only thing that is an abomination and I am not one who believes that He hates homosexuality more than other sins. The Bible says in Proverbs that a 'proud heart' is an abomination. There are many things that are abominations to God. God does not like or love the sin of homosexuality, but He didn't love my sin either. He forgave me and helped me to change and He will do the same for homosexuals if they will seek His forgiveness and His help in turning away from that lifestyle. He does not hate homosexuals. He does not hate drug dealers and serial killers and terrorists. He loves them and wants them to turn away from path they are on and seek paths of righteousness. God hates sin.
Does God create people to be homosexuals? No. We are not born to be homosexual and are left without a choice. We are all born into sin. And we ALWAYS have a choice with everything we do. You might wonder 'Why is someone attracted to the same sex.'? But the flesh is attracted to many things that are sinful. God gives us the strength, help and Spiritual guidance to turn away from any sin and seek out paths of righteousness.
Some say, 'There is homosexuality in the animal kingdom, so that proves that it is NOT abnormal.' But some animals eat their young, does that make it normal? We cannot lean on the animal kingdom, we cannot lean on science, not if we want to walk in the will of God.
This may be sombering to you. I'm sorry, but I'm telling you, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who has researched the actual Biblical texts and Biblical truth on this topic more than me. And I'm telling you the truth and the truth is, the Bible says it is a sin.
You can choose to ignore this. You can choose to NOT abide and live by Biblical principle. That is your prerogative and your choice. But you cannot say that it is not scriptural to say that homosexuality is a sin and God wants us to turn away from it. I researched it NOT out of anger, or hatred or whatever. I did it for people alot like you. To help you and reveal what really is the truth on the subject. It always bothered me that many Christians have tried to justify various things in the Bible by saying it was 'mistranslated' or 'misinterpreted' or 'bad theology'. So, I chose to take a chunk of my life and research this to get down to the bottom of it and reveal what the Bible really says.
Again, you can chose to live by what it says, or you can discard it and do something else. But don't say that it is NOT a sin. Because it is.
Also, I have known many that have turned away from that lifestyle and live a heterosexual, normal, righteous life. It is more common than many would have you to believe. A friend of mine who had AIDS turned away from that lifestyle and He has a wonderful testimony that he stopped listening to what everyone from all the different arguments were saying and he said he sought the Holy Spirit on his own and God spoke to him and told him that if he would turn away and forsake that lifestyle, he would help him just like he would help drug addict turn away from addiction.
Anyway, I could go on and on, but I hope this helps you. You can attack me or simply choose to ignore this, but you'll be ignoring Biblical truth. Seek God, if you truly are a Christian and His Spirit will do exactly what Christ said it would do;' 'Guide you into all truth.' God bless.
Hi, thanks for your response, but you are basically saying 'trust me, I'm right'. You'll forgive me for not finding that particularly convincing. I would prefer it if you could engage with the actual texts and arguments in this channel - then we can all see whether your arguments are in fact as convincing to others as you clearly found them for yourself.
@@BibleandHomosexuality "trust me..."?? This has nothing to do with trusting me. I didn't right the Bible. I'm just presenting you with Biblical truth. If you want to live by God's word and what He desires of us and that matters to you, then live by it. If that doesn't matter to you, then reject it and live by something else. We can't mold the Bible around us. We have to mold our lives around it. I heard many say that the Bible was mistranslated or misinterpreted, etc. I went on a year's long quest to find out if that was the case. But it is not. The Bible is clear. Either live by it or reject it. That's your choice, just like it is mine and all the other 7 billion people on this planet.
@@BibleandHomosexuality Look my friend, I doubt seriously you're gonna believe some guy on the internet that you don't know. Even though you're hoping people will do what you are accusing me of...believe that what you are saying is true. And I don't expect you to take my word for it despite the evidence I have and could present to you.
So, I beseech you; Ask God if what I am saying is true. More importantly, ask Him what His word really says and what his will and desire is for our lives. Ask Him if homosexuality is a sin and something you should seek His deliverance from. But be careful. I don't know you, but I got a feeling you are at risk of falling into the trap that ensnares many; when we seek God for answers, we only tend to hear what we WANT to here. Especially, if we fear that He may tell us something contrary to what we WANT to hear. But if you will open your heart and mind to the voice of His Holy Spirit, it will do as Christ said it would; It will 'Guide you into all truth.' The HS will tell you what and how to live and what God desires. Then, we can choose to live by it, or reject it and do something else. That is the nature of freewill.
Hi Darinwaynec, you are still saying 'trust me'. You also seem to be assuming that I am gay - I am not. Tending to hear what we WANT to hear works both ways. I suspect you may be guilt of it.
You accuse me of doing the same. Except I'm presenting clear arguments across multiple videos. Each video provides a link to my website, where at the end of each article is the scholarship on which I'm basing my points. I also provide a separate longer bibliography on the website.
So people don't have to trust me. They can go and check, if they really want to. They can read the scholarship. They can examine my arguments in detail.
Whereas you are still saying, 'trust me, I know best'. Forgive me, if you don't provide any supporting evidence, for wondering why I would believe you.
@@BibleandHomosexuality Think about what you're saying. You are saying don't trust me, trust these other people that have researched the topic and believe them. But why should we trust them instead of you. If you got your information from them, then I guess we are to trust those people, but why should we trust them either? Because they are 'doctors' and have done research. But I am a doctor and I have done research. Why should anyone trust them and not me? You see what I'm getting at.
At the end of the day, you are expecting people to put trust in other people, or the 'scholarship' as you called them. So, they should put trust in those people and NOT me or even you? And why should they? Is their word any better than yours or mine? The people watching your video don't know anything about you, or the people you got your info from anymore than they know me. How does anyone know that I am not an axe murderer (I'm not by the way...lol) But they don't know that. And we don't know anything about you or the people you got your info from. How do we know those websites are legit? How do we know that you and those 'scholars' don't work for the anti--Christ, for crying outloud, and your mission is to deceive the people of the world? And you could say the same thing about me, and I can accept that. You don't know me. But the Bible says that the Spirit of God will guide us into truth. It will 'bear witness' of the truth.
So, all I did was present research, from people that are as known to the casual viewer as the scholars you reference. But the casual viewer don't know if their research is any more real than the info I presented. They may say they have 'evidence' and did 'research' and 'studies' etc., but we don't know if they are telling the truth. And if you say, we'll they also presented references....but how do we know those references are real either? Again, everything takes faith.
All I'm saying is, let the viewer listen to you, let them listen to me. Let them go to the websites that you say you reference, heck, let them listen to anyone they want. But let God confirm.
So, then.... here's the solution; Let people hear you out, let them hear me out, let them hear WHOEVER out. But at the end of the day, everyone is going to have to make a decision based on trust and faith.
I encourage anyone and everyone to pray and ask God who is right. Ask God what the Bible says. Does it mean what it says when it says it's a sin, or not? Based on my research, yes. But I don't want anyone taking my word for it. Ask God and He will confirm the truth. No more than they should just trust you or the people you referenced. Let God confirm who is right...wouldn't you agree?
The guy is like the serpent in the gardent of Eden, God did not really condemn homosexualtiy said the serpent! really, Lev 20:13
Hi agapee77, I have removed your other comment, as it was a straightforward insult. Comparing me to the serpent is also pretty insulting. Please do me the courtesy of explaining why you think your interpretation of the Bible is better. You do mention Lev. 20:3, which is about child sacrifice. Perhaps you meant Lev. 20:13 - if so, I have a video on this passage, which you can find here: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html
Hi Agapee77, thanks for replying. You'll be glad to know that I have videos on every specific point you raise, with further detailed information on the accompanying website ( www.bibleandhomosexuality.org ).
Video on Genesis: ruclips.net/video/F4ljKuxHAJ4/видео.html
Video on Leviticus: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html
Video on Gen. 19: ruclips.net/video/ZG2Ic-45tyE/видео.html
Video on Romans: ruclips.net/video/qkUytjBXXUg/видео.html
Video on 1 Cor/1 Tim: ruclips.net/video/ZFCKWJ7uk2o/видео.html
I agree that God hates sins, including sexual ones. I disagree that homosexuality is a sin, or that this is what the Biblical texts are referring to.
@@agapee77 I hope you realize that most pagan cultures also didn't do those things either, You guys act like you're better just because you didn't do those things well we didn't do those things either, stop pretending like we do, we don't.
You're trying so hard to find a way around the verses that clearly condemn same sex relationships but you fail. The Bible is clear on that: it is a sin.
It's also already in the Old Testament: "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (Levitikus 20:13)
Hi Semi, simply saying 'the Bible is clear on that' is not an argument - especially when the Bible isn't clear on that. As to the verse you quote, I have a whole video on Leviticus here: ruclips.net/video/6nSPznp2ToU/видео.html - I hope you find it helpful.
Kindly stop lying to people if you're going to preach the Lord's word do it right. People's feelings do not Trump the word of God
Hi Sanka, it would be more helpful if you could indicate exactly where you think I'm going wrong, rather than just coming out with a blanket accusation of lying. Also, I never said that people's feelings are more important than the word of God. I did say that you might be interpreting the word of God incorrectly.
Don't twist scripture to fit what society wants to hear
Hi Alex, you haven't engaged at all with scripture in this reply, but just assumed something about my motives. Please engage with the actual arguments. Thanks.
Mr aquatics you said it brother ( or sister). He is literally twisting and diminishing literal verses to fit what new day society would want to hear. That why 80% of ppl in the comments are people who are confused on Christianity and would rather take his word or they are ppl who are even Christian yet still agree with him. Now if you have people in this comment section who are openly expressive about their atheistic views or hate for god and they AGREE with @Bible and Homosexuality….you know something wrong
This is false
False
Hi Jalen, rather than just assert an opinion, it would be more helpful if you could be specific in where and why you think the video is wrong.
Listen. You are sinners. I gave you verse that debunk your claim. Yet you siad it old law. Which is dumb to be honest since jesus states he claim to fuil the old law. Give me an agurment where it right to be rainbow
Hi, simply quoting a verse isn't either an argument or an exegesis of the Bible. If we are meant to keep all the old law, why aren't all Christian males circumcised when eight days old? Why is it ok to eat bacon? Why don't we keep a sabbath from Friday sunset? Why is it ok to get a tattoo? Jesus did fulfil the Law, but that doesn't mean that we have to keep that Law. That's Paul's whole point in Galatians.
@@BibleandHomosexuality
1. No we can eat bacon, we can't eat it raw that what it means. The bible said it unclean cause it raw. There are many people in the bible that eat bacon.
2. No tattoo is still wrong what so ever. There are many verse that siad it wrong other then lev
3. The frist point you make idk what it means.
4. People still keep the sabbath. Jesus will only make an exception due to people have to work to provide for the family's. Aslo Sunday is the only sabbath day.
5. Jesus siad keep my commands
Sorry, but you are way off beam.
1. It doesn't mean you can't eat bacon raw, the law specifies certain animals as unclean however they are cooked. Observant Jewish people never eat pork, bacon or any food that comes from a pig. There are not 'many people' in the Bible who eat bacon - this is simply untrue. And in the deuterocanonical book of 2 Maccabees 7 you can find the account of a widow and her 7 sons who were all martyred because they refused to eat pork.
2. There are not 'many verses' besides Leviticus that talk about tattoos in the Bible.
3. The Law requires all males to be circumcised.
4. No, people don't keep the Sabbath, which is specifically from Friday sunset. Sunday is not the Sabbath.
5. Jesus also said that his command was to love each other.
@@BibleandHomosexuality
Answer to number 2: www.openbible.info/topics/cutting_yourself
Answer to 5: jesus siad other things as well saying if you love me you will keep my commandets.
Answer to 1: fine,but still pork is good.(this is deabtes)
Number 3: idk what that means.
Number 4: Sunday is sabbath for romam Catholic. Aslo like I siad the sabbath is a rest day a time to repent and worship God and time to feel joy and happiness and time for sinners to be good.
Now for the tattoos are gave you verse that prove it is wrong
EVEN JESUS CHRIST HOMOSEXUAL
Jesus had a disciple that he loved and laid on his chest who was this disciple
What about those who.will not inherit the kingdom of God you clearly dont understand the word or the verse that says a man shall not lie with another man this is an abomination to the Lord your Elohim
Hi Sean, check out my video on Leviticus.
You don"t live according to the ancient jewish laws of leviticus. But you love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. A fool's faith is dangerous. A fool will always misuse his faith out of his foolishness.
@@heinmolenaar6750 Well first off I guess you should read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 then follow up with Galatians 5:19-21 then maybe try Ephesians 5:5 none of which are from the Deuteronomincal text 🙄
And if you thought it was ok to be sexually immoral you probably wouldn't be trying to convince yourself and everyone else it's ok
@@heinmolenaar6750 I'm not attacking anyone I'm simply quoting scripture