@@JappoeGGDon't waste your breath. If I had a dollar for every minute of my life I spent arguing against the Croco-mom theory, I'd be a very wealthy man. The only way any theory dies is if it's definitively disproven. So it will take either a very obvious one-armed Shanks remembering or talking about his meeting the five elders, or One Piece ending with no sign of a Shanks twin to disprove this. Until one of those two things happens, you'll probably see it everywhere Shanks is so much as mentioned. My advice: ignore it.
@@cpmtn1995it is strange considering the possibility that he is a celestial dragon. Yeah, they put a bounty on Drake's head, although he is a SWORD member, but being a celestial dragon is completely another thing
Just the fact that we saw ' Shanks' ' right eye always made that meeting with the Gorosei feel off...not to mention that they never call him Red Hair in the anime. It stands out even more now that the animators went out of their way to make sure we saw no part of his outfit.
He is the man marked by flames. When Blackbeard's crew was talking about the man marked by flames and the final poneglyph, they theorized that the final poneglyph is in the hands of the government. Shanks' twin is that man. He's probably one of the God's Knights and his role is to sail around in that black ship in order to prevent anyone from being able to find the final poneglyph that he has in his possession. It also makes sense in regards to Whitebeard's statement about his scar. The last known location of that poneglyph was Fishman Island, which happened to be Whitebeard's territory. Perhaps he scarred Whitebeard when taking the poneglyph?
I add another detail… kid when wano finished said that he knew who was the man marked bu the flames…. After that we see him attacking shanks out of nowhere…. I can see that kid thought it was shanks because the guy is identical to him… he dinn’t know he was not the real one but just shanks because he fon’t know he has a twin
bro the man marked by flames is saul and the final poneglyph is either in elbaph or the giants know. why ese would Kid go to elbaph saying “we need only one more”???
It's also worth noting that it's not necessarily true that the "Shanks" in chapter 907 actually looks identical to the "real" Shanks, in that his hair color may be totally different. Remember, the colors used by Shueisha for the colored manga or by Toei in the anime are obviously not always decided by Oda himself. In fact, both the colored manga and the anime have previously got colors of certain things wrong, such as Prince Grus' hair which we know from the cover of volume 107 is canonically green yet in Bege's cover story is colored by Shueisha as brown, or Mihawk's eyes which we know from a line in Baratie are canonically red yet in the anime are colored by Toei as orange. It's entirely possible that Shanks' twin has, say, blue hair, and for that to still be the same person we saw at the end of chapter 907. The actual manga made by Oda is drawn in black and white, after all.
the anime change robin's eye color also often likes to put the ringed eyes on a character on certain scenes even tho in the manga it is clearly not the case for ex the most recent one is when the stussy clone's identity got revealed.
I don’t think he’d have different hair color. If that isn’t Shanks, we were lead to believe he was. Giving him a different color hair would completely ruin the reveal of evil twin Shanks. A shade darker/lighter, sure, as that can be obscured by shadow/lighting.
Oda wouldn't do that, he knows about the anime and even tells a lot of things to toei. He definitely would never do shanks' twin with blue hair, because it would actually ruin the anime. A darker or lighter red is possible though, but definitely not BLUE
The mythical Roman founders, twin brothers Romulus and Remus, are reputed to have been discovered underneath a Fig Tree. Shanks is believed to trace his bloodline from the Figarland Family. ...Oda cooked a five-star, four-course meal with this one.
That wouldn’t make any sense because if shanks responds to his name “shanks” when luffy calls his name …he would correct him and tell him his real name and not the name if his supposed twin brother shanks …his name would be something like “stabs” 😂
@@minorityzoro i think he will recognize , i dont know beacuse he can feel shanks haki and recognize it and haki dont change..so luffy might be able to sense if its shanks presencre or someone other...not to mention, luffy is stupid in recognizing faces but he has superior sense of understanding feeling...so shanks and the duplicate shanks have different feeling..so it would be easy for luffy i guess
Oda never fails to show shanks with his scar in his reintroduction scenes, even 4 chapters before the gorosei meeting(5th emperor chapter), we see the first panel of shanks close up face, oda doesnt hesistate to show his scars, he could have easily done that with the gorosei meeting as well Also watched the Sawyer7mage on this topic, where he also suggested that the man marked by flames can be this twin shanks, since shanks himself has an ability to set his sword into flames...its possible that they had a clash and shanks might have scarred him
Between Shanks's supposed twin and the theory about him being THE yakuza boss, my mind can't get over how little we actually know about the character who was introduced to us at the very start of the story.
It's worth mentioning that other times when Oda forgets to draw a scar he fixes it in the volume releases, he never fixes Shanks' scar in that Gorosei meeting. The scar is on the other side, but you can see profile shots of Shanks in the Whitebeard meeting where you can still see part of the scar on the forehead.
As another good point, this Shanks look alike doesn't necessarily need to be his twin, he could just be a younger or older brother. Young Garling looks exactly like Shanks, so a Shanks sibling would look like Garling and therefore Shanks by proxy. Since in-world it would be more Shanks looks like Garling than the other way around.
There is another point that nobody is talking about, his eyes are different. You can see 4-like angles on the eyes of Shanks, like a diamond-ish form and there has been always like that since the beggining of the manga. There are some panels where Shanks have the same point of view and his eyes are still diamond-ish, but in this scene his eyes are TRIANGULAR. If Oda have the caution and time to respect the form of his eyes during his entire story, why change them in just ONE PANEL? it's because maybe is another person.
i think his eyes are triangular because that's how you draw eyes from a side profile take a picture of yourself facing forward and another facing right, your eyes would always look triangular on the side profile also search up side profile eyes
@@bred9901 there is already more pictures of shanks from side profile and the only one with triangular shape is the one with the elders, the other pictures side profile his eyes are shown with 4 angles :) so it's not just the perspective
Allow me to play devil’s advocate: Shanks, unlike the Donquixote family, never officially left The Holy Land. He went with his dad to God Valley where his pops became the King. Shanks ends up in a treasure chest, gets inadvertently kidnapped, and grows up a pirate, but that was not of his own doing. He never knew he was a CD until later (we know he eventually found out because of the meeting with the Gorosei). He’s THAT character in this story. Both CD AND pirate Naturally 🤯 The CD would never allow a pirate to become a CD, but in Shanks case, they don’t have a choice in the matter because of Figarland. Lol
"King of God Valley" was a mistranslation, from what I remember. He was something more like the champion, i.e. he won the tournament they were holding there. I do agree that his situation is different to Homing's though. It would be a difficult situation - the son of an important CD was taken and raised by their biggest enemy... would they admit something like that, or just let it play out and not acknowledge that anything happened?
You were saying that the elders wouldn't accept having shanks inside, and neither would shanks. However, The direct counter top that is the same scene which you mention Sengoku speaking to shanks after the Marineford war. Sengoku says "Becasue it's you i'll allow it." That could be the same scenario with the elders, adn that is also something that they said, "We only allowed it because it was you." The elders also continued to work with Roger, and other pirates in tandem whenever thsi would benefit them, They worked with Roger, and they also worked with Vegapunk, knowing his connection to Dragon. This throws the entire theory here out of the window. Shanks has shown the capability to respectfully speak to others, so him going out of his way, WHEN he requests something, is definitely not strange. Even Ace wanted to be able to respectfully speak with Shanks at some point so took time to learn how, this could easily be something that shanks did as well.
Sengoku was afraid of Shanks It's not a sign of respect or authority That shanks has Sengoku says he will take responsibility Meaning he should have never allowed shanks to do anything But we know how it is in reality They barely managed to defeat a sick dying wb A much stronger nearly fresh Yonko and his crew would have been suicide (Remember another yonko's crew is still there) But the emphasis on shanks makes sense since he is a beast and the strongest Yonko Garp someone stronger than sengoku did not want to provoke Rayleigh They could not handle 2 legends Rayleigh is alone he has no crew his power is emphasized Shanks has that effect and much more He shut down marineford and his crew closed the casket On the Grand line it's not money or fame or influence that gets things done It's power
@@swordpieceWhat I will say about this show is it has a very ‘game of thrones-esque’ feel to it. Characters who are typically on opposing sides have a tendency to work together when it conveniences them. So it still isn’t out of the question the Shanks and the Gorosei would cooperate under certain circumstances. Also, the ‘Shanks is actually an antagonist’ theory is still up for debate. If you ask me, it’s one or the other. Either Shanks has ulterior motives, or he has a twin. The only other possibility(and the least likely) is an imposter.
Knowing oda, all these convinient angles, way of speech, the sudden meeting between gorosei and shanks, i personally think this theory might be close to the truth. I love all these theories, good job man
oda said on an interview or sbs , that there will be a greater enemy for the straw hats in future that has ties with whitebeard, and we know whitebeard said that "looking at your face i remember those scars", maybe they both are the same person, and in the latest chapter we saw a silhouette person holding a sword.....👀
@@vivansharma2997 I know but narratively it would be stupid if he decided to do that. The only way it would make sense is if garling instilled those personal vendettas into him
The biggest troll in history will be that Luffy meets Shanks, the reunion will be super emotional and Luffy will give Shanks his hat back, then Shanks would say "I'm not Shanks, I'm actually an evil twin" and then proceed to escape with the straw hat
This theory makes a LOT of sense. You know, now that I think about it. When this "Shanks" stood in front of the Goresei, Oda went out of his way to hide notable features from Shanks, like his scar on his left eye and his missing arm. Edit. Oh, you even mention this 7:59 😂
I think the my theory is Saul will be killed, Hajruddin sacrifed, the kidnapped of Vivy will marked as the start of Ragnorak. OK HEAR ME OUT... The Shank Twin is here but not for Luffy neither Robin or anyone else on the Elbaf Island. Well, killing Luffy or Robin will be like the side quest but the main reason is to steal something from Elbaf. If you guys notice, throughout the chapter until now, there is 3 main things Oda mentioned , "Do not stay in Elbaf too long" = time, "Loki asking Luffy to get the key to his chain" = Loki Freedom and "The Owl Library" = Knowledge. Straw hat will be spend in Elbaf way too long than they expected causing a time skip to the outside world. Shank Twin will help Loki to be free but in return he must destroyed Elbaf and annihilated the new giants Pirate resulting in Hajruddin sacrifice. The book of Ohara will be stolen by Shanks Twin as one of the book contain the info about the road poneglyph. As we venture through this arc, one THING is Highlight quite clearly. IT IS THE GIANTS. Why you may ask ?? Because after Vegapunk Announcement to the World about the world will be sink then their main priority is to destroy ELBAF as it pose A HUGE THREAT to the government due to their long lifespan.
Shanks having a twin is pretty obvious.There is a reason Shanks was abandoned by his family in a treasure chest.There can only be one heir to the throne.
Well, I think there are a few ways to still explain this (though to be clear I don't hate the twin shanks theory, if it's true I wouldn't mind in the least) it could be that Shanks was speaking more respectfully because he wanted to be careful to preserve a connection with the Gorosei; if the certain pirate in question is Blackbeard then Shanks has a very real reason to see him as a threat to the entire world. This could be his last-ditch effort at getting something done about it. Maybe even proposing that the navy makes a joint effort to take out Teach with the Red Hair pirates, after all, connections keep getting made between Rocks and Teach, and it took both the Navy and Roger to finish him. So he's trying to use his position as the son of a god knight to bring the idea to them directly. If this was the case, I could see him being more formal, not out of respect, but more out of wanting to make sure they take the offer seriously.
Shanks has some connection to the world government, I suspect it has to do with his red hair. I think he just knows how to talk to these nobles and realizes their power. It's not a twin, but Shanks, who is a more complex character than we think. He will talk differently to Luffy or crew members than to nobles.
Since we know that Shanks was in a treasure chest at God Valley, it makes even more sense for there to be a twin brother of him and Garling, as his personality goes as we've seen untill now, wouldn't be out of character for him to put one of his own twin sons as a prize in the chests.
One thing you missed is that Shanks clearly stole the Gum Gum Fruit from the hands of the world-goverment. I dont think that after that he would be let in.
The more i think about the twin theory the less it makes sense, shanks meeting with the gorosei was meant to be mysterious on who he was snitching on and was soft confirming his celestial dragon lineage to be able to assemble a meeting with the gorosei to begin with with film red hard confirming it. Based on what we currently know about the god knights they are a both a judicial and fighting force of the celestial dragons to solve internal matters and they like to play twisted games for sport they arent interested in the threat of pirates, thats the job of the marines while the gorosei are focused on maintaining the balance of power And inspite of Shanks past actions to deny the elders for having the nika fruit, he had some crucial info that the elders were keen on hearing but warcury and venusjuro couldn't help but deride shanks while mars and saturn was eager to hear what info shanks would divulge, some of the gorosei patronizing a god knight doesnt make sense to me, im starting to think oda is playing a long con troll on his readers once he caught wind of the shanks twin theory burgeoning in the jp community
You missing points i think. Shanks is a pirate noone would want shanks to return to the government side. The five elders would never respect him, they would only use him for information and they would never allow him to step inside the meeting room and have conversation with him
@stavros222 yea my take didnt age well now did it XD, i think i was more pushing back on the fervor of the theory and overlooked most of the good points that was made about it as i was trying to bring an alternative perspective, i usually do so when the groupthink is real strong on one theory(i did the same when a majority of the community was going crazy on the illusion theory when oda made many drawing errors in chapter 1127) oda is delivering on the twin theory or trolling in order to use 907 as an unpredictable plot twist
I would like to state that the man has a clear visible shirt collar, something only pre-timeskip shanks had, as in timeskip his shirt is almost fully open meaning the collar could not be near his face at all like it is in the gorosei panel.
In a world where we know cloning is a thing, it wouldn't shock me if Shanks we know is the original while the one they spoke with is the clone whom is doing work for them behind the scenes.
Good video. While this may prove that Shanks isn't entirely on friendly terms with the CDs, I still wonder how anyone will react or handle if he really has a twin brother, and how his encounter with people like Luffy will play out.
Well, there are old believes of twins will bring bad luck and such topic is quite common in manga. If someone put shanks in treasure chest by purpose to let him escape the fate of getting killed so young, presumably it was someone who actually love him. His mother maybe? Or someone else by the order of his mom?
Why would this celestial dragon twin actively hide his identity with such clothing tho? Come to think about it, maybe because he looks like Shanks and didn't want to cause trouble during the Reverie
This is so cool ty for this. It would've been incredibly obvious for us english only people if Shanks started using weird formal english. The phase "and i appreciate that" isn't at all formal, and you can tell when someone is trying to speak formally
Some say he's talking about blackbeard some says he's gonna talk about luffy but he's actually gonna talk about most dangerous member of D clan Con D riano.
Come to think of it, that makes perfect sense. Shanks having an evil twin would also be an excellent way to reinforce the story's themes about how blood isn't everything. In fact, the best way to do that would be for literally the only difference between the two to be upbringing; and yet have them be completely opposite people.
Shanks could be a sort of reverse story from joker, figarland didnt give up his rank like jokers father and shanks hates him because of that, opposite of joker
Bro it’s a nice video you did a good job, but back to reality - the Gorosei let Shanks in because they’re absolutely terrified of the dude. He could wipe all 5 of them at once.
Great video, we need more people like you that have this depth in analysing theories. By the way apparantly the translation when Mihawk attacked WhiteBard was mistranslated in the officiel release, can you make a video about it ?
Turns out this was true. This is why I'm telling you the next plot twist will be that imu is actually not the Nerona Imu but someone else from the void century that took over the name like obito and madara 🔥
Theory sounds good, although I don't think the Gorosei have the exact mindset as the celestial dragons, considering they never wear those silly suits, so I don't agree that they would not allow Shanks to be there for living as a pirate, specially if there's some information they really want from him. And considering they seem to be the actual ones behind the government, not the Celesial Dragons, it would make more sense for Shanks to act more respectful towards them than to Marines or Whitebeard, even more if he knew all five of them could kill him if they wanted to. Still, I think you are right, since Shanks having a twin would make more sense.
Shanks has no twins and he is not Evil. Yes, Shanks had a meeting with the Gorosei and he was speaking about a certain 👉 BlackBeard. The even more challenging foes wgo had ties with Whitebears is BlackBeard, the man wants to be like the WG but worst. It is normal at some point, Luffy and Shanks will deal against BlackBeard.
Recent chapter gives another hint you may be right. There's a shadowy figure with a saber like Shanks sword's tilt. He could be Xebec or that twin. I talk about the panel of people competing to get One Piece.
Aside from the video explanation, which is very interesting, Oda could have shown this character's profile with the scar to avoid any ambiguity. The fact that he only showed the profile without the scar shows oda's desire to sow confusion. and there's no point if it was Shanks
After reading chapter 1125 I think that he might be St. Figarland Garling, it's seems like Imu has some kind of power or influence over the Gorosei"s lifespan, this is suggested by the way Imu killed Saturn.
It could def just be Shanks though as shanks is show multiple times to be the strongest w his haki even scaring an admiral away from a distance and by stopping kaido from joining the marineford war. He couldve just powered his way through and they couldnt do anything because they didnt want marijioa (however its spelled) to suffer any damage
Another important evidence is Shanks' bounty. A bounty means that the World Government wants to capture him by any means, dead or alive, and he literally has the highest known bounty in the entire manga. That makes him the one man that the Government wants to capture the most out of any other character, so it feels really weird for them to let him in their headquarters and have a chat like it's nothing
I mean tbh we know that shanks is a celestial dragon and when he tried to stop the war sengoku said "ill stop the war only because its you redhair" which means maybe after shanks found out that he is celestial dragon he took the advantage to stop the war and have access to meeting the five elders since he is "noble" that is my theory i might be wrong tho
I used to think that shanks, while not an outright villain, was maybe an ally of circumstance to the gorosei. That he had special knowledge about the void century, and he was worried that were the truth about it to come out, the ensuing war would tear the world to pieces and kill millions of innocents. And so he protects the status quo. But with OP being a very straightforward shonen manga, this kinda morally grey characterization probably wont fly. And the evil twin theory makes more sense in that regard
I don't think it's Shanks evil twin because it wouldn't make sense revealing him so late in the manga, first of all it would have to be proven why nobody recognized him not even Celestial Dragons, they have the wanted posters of Shanks. Either memories in Celestial Dragons are somehow erased. Then someone must have seen him if he can't teleport or he is a shapeshifter or the topic of time travel. It could just be a doppelganger. Otherwise he would have to be completely covered and wear a mask. Remember Shanks was aware of the significance and history of Luffys Devil Fruit. He could eat the fruit but he didn't. This is the strangest thing of all
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Bro oda is a goat
The 6 year setup paid off
Ah. Shanks’ polite twin brother, Thanks.
hahahaha
Good one lmaooo
It's insane that those are the first words that the character ever says
marry me for that comment
Shanks hate his sister and his father
so basically, it would be shank's brother that would be the rat. So basically we have Shanks, and Rat Shanks
Its just one person I hate this damn theory
he wouldnt be a rat because hes likely a holy knight
@AABBQQ to keep up appearances maybe?
@@JappoeGGDon't waste your breath. If I had a dollar for every minute of my life I spent arguing against the Croco-mom theory, I'd be a very wealthy man. The only way any theory dies is if it's definitively disproven. So it will take either a very obvious one-armed Shanks remembering or talking about his meeting the five elders, or One Piece ending with no sign of a Shanks twin to disprove this. Until one of those two things happens, you'll probably see it everywhere Shanks is so much as mentioned. My advice: ignore it.
@@cpmtn1995it is strange considering the possibility that he is a celestial dragon. Yeah, they put a bounty on Drake's head, although he is a SWORD member, but being a celestial dragon is completely another thing
Imagine the pirate he is talking about is actually Shanks😂
Most likely that is the case , because we see him appearing when Shanks start to move .
Boy u read my mind. That would be some deep shit. 😂😂😂 Like "Us" type shit.
Too bad u *have* to imagine
I thought it was Blackbeard to be honest
😂
Not to mention he literally stole the Nika Fruit from the WG, which was a huge blow to them. Why would they let a man who did that talk to them.
@@swordpiece God Valley Incident, whatever happened there.
@@WhayYay Let me tell you a couple of three things: Forget Charlos, forget Doflamingo, forget Rocks who went to God Valley and never came back...
@@Ghaltouniplease explain for the uncultured
@@manuelalmagro9837 We're referencing some scenes from The Sopranos
@@Ghaltouni thanks, got to watch that movie
Just the fact that we saw ' Shanks' ' right eye always made that meeting with the Gorosei feel off...not to mention that they never call him Red Hair in the anime. It stands out even more now that the animators went out of their way to make sure we saw no part of his outfit.
If that was “man marked by flame” maybe it’s to hide the fact he has scars over his body
Or he has a eyepatch
But he has a scar in that meeting. It's not obvious but if you look closer there's an outline of his scar in the same place on his forehead.
@@Air-wr4vvthere isn't
He is the man marked by flames. When Blackbeard's crew was talking about the man marked by flames and the final poneglyph, they theorized that the final poneglyph is in the hands of the government. Shanks' twin is that man. He's probably one of the God's Knights and his role is to sail around in that black ship in order to prevent anyone from being able to find the final poneglyph that he has in his possession.
It also makes sense in regards to Whitebeard's statement about his scar. The last known location of that poneglyph was Fishman Island, which happened to be Whitebeard's territory. Perhaps he scarred Whitebeard when taking the poneglyph?
I like this theory a lot better than "garling scarred whitebeard" since you can see whitebeard still didnt have scars after god valley 😂
@@badmagik8957 facts
and maybe he is called the man marked by flames because Ace burned him trying to protect the poneglyph?
I add another detail… kid when wano finished said that he knew who was the man marked bu the flames…. After that we see him attacking shanks out of nowhere…. I can see that kid thought it was shanks because the guy is identical to him… he dinn’t know he was not the real one but just shanks because he fon’t know he has a twin
bro the man marked by flames is saul and the final poneglyph is either in elbaph or the giants know. why ese would Kid go to elbaph saying “we need only one more”???
After chapter 1134 spoilers, this video has aged extremely well. Props to you
Yeah, but I also wanted to make a video about Shanks having eaten the Rat Rat Zoan 😔
@@swordpiecelmao
"my bad dude" lmao
It's also worth noting that it's not necessarily true that the "Shanks" in chapter 907 actually looks identical to the "real" Shanks, in that his hair color may be totally different. Remember, the colors used by Shueisha for the colored manga or by Toei in the anime are obviously not always decided by Oda himself.
In fact, both the colored manga and the anime have previously got colors of certain things wrong, such as Prince Grus' hair which we know from the cover of volume 107 is canonically green yet in Bege's cover story is colored by Shueisha as brown, or Mihawk's eyes which we know from a line in Baratie are canonically red yet in the anime are colored by Toei as orange.
It's entirely possible that Shanks' twin has, say, blue hair, and for that to still be the same person we saw at the end of chapter 907. The actual manga made by Oda is drawn in black and white, after all.
Maybe they changed Mihawks eye color in anime because of IMU! Jk
the anime change robin's eye color also often likes to put the ringed eyes on a character on certain scenes even tho in the manga it is clearly not the case for ex the most recent one is when the stussy clone's identity got revealed.
I don’t think he’d have different hair color. If that isn’t Shanks, we were lead to believe he was. Giving him a different color hair would completely ruin the reveal of evil twin Shanks. A shade darker/lighter, sure, as that can be obscured by shadow/lighting.
@@Infritblade123 I like the idea of it being a darker red actually.
Oda wouldn't do that, he knows about the anime and even tells a lot of things to toei. He definitely would never do shanks' twin with blue hair, because it would actually ruin the anime. A darker or lighter red is possible though, but definitely not BLUE
I think bro has that advanced observation haki
The mythical Roman founders, twin brothers Romulus and Remus, are reputed to have been discovered underneath a Fig Tree.
Shanks is believed to trace his bloodline from the Figarland Family.
...Oda cooked a five-star, four-course meal with this one.
I really like this one considering Goda loves myths like greek and roman
ah yes shanks twin brother, shank.
Shanks and his brother Stabs
Shonks
Sank
Stocks
shanked
The long lost brother of Shanks. Imagine Luffy accidentally mixing up Shanks with him. That would be hilarious.
he would the guy does not know the diff between ussop and cp0 guy
That wouldn’t make any sense because if shanks responds to his name “shanks” when luffy calls his name …he would correct him and tell him his real name and not the name if his supposed twin brother shanks
…his name would be something like “stabs” 😂
How would it be funny at all what😂 literally expected to happen by every reader if they meet
@@minorityzoro i think he will recognize , i dont know beacuse he can feel shanks haki and recognize it and haki dont change..so luffy might be able to sense if its shanks presencre or someone other...not to mention, luffy is stupid in recognizing faces but he has superior sense of understanding feeling...so shanks and the duplicate shanks have different feeling..so it would be easy for luffy i guess
He would have both his arms so... Luffy would recognize him immediately
Here after chapter 1134 spoilers, you are goat 😂😭
Props to him
Oda never fails to show shanks with his scar in his reintroduction scenes, even 4 chapters before the gorosei meeting(5th emperor chapter), we see the first panel of shanks close up face, oda doesnt hesistate to show his scars, he could have easily done that with the gorosei meeting as well
Also watched the Sawyer7mage on this topic, where he also suggested that the man marked by flames can be this twin shanks, since shanks himself has an ability to set his sword into flames...its possible that they had a clash and shanks might have scarred him
Between Shanks's supposed twin and the theory about him being THE yakuza boss, my mind can't get over how little we actually know about the character who was introduced to us at the very start of the story.
It's worth mentioning that other times when Oda forgets to draw a scar he fixes it in the volume releases, he never fixes Shanks' scar in that Gorosei meeting. The scar is on the other side, but you can see profile shots of Shanks in the Whitebeard meeting where you can still see part of the scar on the forehead.
But they are not really the same angle?
@@atithanbuwthin2967 it is. Anyway it is now confirmed
As another good point, this Shanks look alike doesn't necessarily need to be his twin, he could just be a younger or older brother. Young Garling looks exactly like Shanks, so a Shanks sibling would look like Garling and therefore Shanks by proxy. Since in-world it would be more Shanks looks like Garling than the other way around.
There is another point that nobody is talking about, his eyes are different.
You can see 4-like angles on the eyes of Shanks, like a diamond-ish form and there has been always like that since the beggining of the manga. There are some panels where Shanks have the same point of view and his eyes are still diamond-ish, but in this scene his eyes are TRIANGULAR.
If Oda have the caution and time to respect the form of his eyes during his entire story, why change them in just ONE PANEL? it's because maybe is another person.
i think his eyes are triangular because that's how you draw eyes from a side profile
take a picture of yourself facing forward and another facing right, your eyes would always look triangular on the side profile
also search up side profile eyes
@@bred9901 there is already more pictures of shanks from side profile and the only one with triangular shape is the one with the elders, the other pictures side profile his eyes are shown with 4 angles :) so it's not just the perspective
Allow me to play devil’s advocate:
Shanks, unlike the Donquixote family, never officially left The Holy Land. He went with his dad to God Valley where his pops became the King. Shanks ends up in a treasure chest, gets inadvertently kidnapped, and grows up a pirate, but that was not of his own doing. He never knew he was a CD until later (we know he eventually found out because of the meeting with the Gorosei).
He’s THAT character in this story. Both CD AND pirate Naturally 🤯 The CD would never allow a pirate to become a CD, but in Shanks case, they don’t have a choice in the matter because of Figarland. Lol
fodderland has some dirt on them lol
"King of God Valley" was a mistranslation, from what I remember. He was something more like the champion, i.e. he won the tournament they were holding there. I do agree that his situation is different to Homing's though. It would be a difficult situation - the son of an important CD was taken and raised by their biggest enemy... would they admit something like that, or just let it play out and not acknowledge that anything happened?
You were saying that the elders wouldn't accept having shanks inside, and neither would shanks. However, The direct counter top that is the same scene which you mention Sengoku speaking to shanks after the Marineford war. Sengoku says "Becasue it's you i'll allow it." That could be the same scenario with the elders, adn that is also something that they said, "We only allowed it because it was you."
The elders also continued to work with Roger, and other pirates in tandem whenever thsi would benefit them, They worked with Roger, and they also worked with Vegapunk, knowing his connection to Dragon.
This throws the entire theory here out of the window. Shanks has shown the capability to respectfully speak to others, so him going out of his way, WHEN he requests something, is definitely not strange. Even Ace wanted to be able to respectfully speak with Shanks at some point so took time to learn how, this could easily be something that shanks did as well.
Sengoku was afraid of Shanks
It's not a sign of respect or authority
That shanks has
Sengoku says he will take responsibility
Meaning he should have never allowed shanks to do anything
But we know how it is in reality
They barely managed to defeat a sick dying wb
A much stronger nearly fresh Yonko and his crew would have been suicide
(Remember another yonko's crew is still there)
But the emphasis on shanks makes sense since he is a beast and the strongest Yonko
Garp someone stronger than sengoku did not want to provoke Rayleigh
They could not handle 2 legends
Rayleigh is alone he has no crew
his power is emphasized
Shanks has that effect and much more
He shut down marineford and his crew closed the casket
On the Grand line it's not money or fame or influence that gets things done
It's power
Head canon @@itachi_1724
@@swordpieceWhat I will say about this show is it has a very ‘game of thrones-esque’ feel to it. Characters who are typically on opposing sides have a tendency to work together when it conveniences them. So it still isn’t out of the question the Shanks and the Gorosei would cooperate under certain circumstances. Also, the ‘Shanks is actually an antagonist’ theory is still up for debate. If you ask me, it’s one or the other. Either Shanks has ulterior motives, or he has a twin. The only other possibility(and the least likely) is an imposter.
So you are trying to tell me... *holding back tears* Shanks is not a rat?
I used to pray for times like this.
Dang you must be hurting ✍ quick recovery
His twin brother is the rat
Imagine if its Bon Chan messing with the Gorosei
@@swordpiece that would be so funny lol
Shanks is getting the homelander treatment (comic reference)
Knowing oda, all these convinient angles, way of speech, the sudden meeting between gorosei and shanks, i personally think this theory might be close to the truth.
I love all these theories, good job man
You absolute madlad.
oda said on an interview or sbs , that there will be a greater enemy for the straw hats in future that has ties with whitebeard, and we know whitebeard said that "looking at your face i remember those scars", maybe they both are the same person, and in the latest chapter we saw a silhouette person holding a sword.....👀
He was talking about Garling.
@@mylespando5192 still not clear by oda, let's see
@@vivansharma2997garling was the one who gave him the scar, why introduce an entirely separate character when he aligns perfectly with that quote
@@Shayne10998 no clarity by oda yet, let's wait
@@vivansharma2997 I know but narratively it would be stupid if he decided to do that. The only way it would make sense is if garling instilled those personal vendettas into him
The biggest troll in history will be that Luffy meets Shanks, the reunion will be super emotional and Luffy will give Shanks his hat back, then Shanks would say "I'm not Shanks, I'm actually an evil twin" and then proceed to escape with the straw hat
Bro thats a huge possibility
0:11 And it took somethere around 15 min
Oda: Damn, I forgot the scar... hope no one will notice it
Fans: PEAK! PEAK! PEAK! PEAK!
Oda: Another success.
literally this lmao
you were saying?
🤡
You rn: oh no i was wrong 😱😭😭😢
Great catch!
Bro used future sight
🤯🤯🤯 after recent spoilers u called it
This theory makes a LOT of sense. You know, now that I think about it. When this "Shanks" stood in front of the Goresei, Oda went out of his way to hide notable features from Shanks, like his scar on his left eye and his missing arm.
Edit. Oh, you even mention this 7:59 😂
I think the my theory is Saul will be killed, Hajruddin sacrifed, the kidnapped of Vivy will marked as the start of Ragnorak. OK HEAR ME OUT... The Shank Twin is here but not for Luffy neither Robin or anyone else on the Elbaf Island. Well, killing Luffy or Robin will be like the side quest but the main reason is to steal something from Elbaf. If you guys notice, throughout the chapter until now, there is 3 main things Oda mentioned , "Do not stay in Elbaf too long" = time, "Loki asking Luffy to get the key to his chain" = Loki Freedom and "The Owl Library" = Knowledge. Straw hat will be spend in Elbaf way too long than they expected causing a time skip to the outside world. Shank Twin will help Loki to be free but in return he must destroyed Elbaf and annihilated the new giants Pirate resulting in Hajruddin sacrifice. The book of Ohara will be stolen by Shanks Twin as one of the book contain the info about the road poneglyph. As we venture through this arc, one THING is Highlight quite clearly. IT IS THE GIANTS. Why you may ask ?? Because after Vegapunk Announcement to the World about the world will be sink then their main priority is to destroy ELBAF as it pose A HUGE THREAT to the government due to their long lifespan.
Shanks having a twin is pretty obvious.There is a reason Shanks was abandoned by his family in a treasure chest.There can only be one heir to the throne.
Im sure that he wasn't meant to be in the treasure chest
SPOILERS ……
U dropped this video at great time it’s an old theory but u did it my boy. STABS IS HERE
Well, I think there are a few ways to still explain this (though to be clear I don't hate the twin shanks theory, if it's true I wouldn't mind in the least) it could be that Shanks was speaking more respectfully because he wanted to be careful to preserve a connection with the Gorosei; if the certain pirate in question is Blackbeard then Shanks has a very real reason to see him as a threat to the entire world. This could be his last-ditch effort at getting something done about it. Maybe even proposing that the navy makes a joint effort to take out Teach with the Red Hair pirates, after all, connections keep getting made between Rocks and Teach, and it took both the Navy and Roger to finish him. So he's trying to use his position as the son of a god knight to bring the idea to them directly. If this was the case, I could see him being more formal, not out of respect, but more out of wanting to make sure they take the offer seriously.
I haven't considered this before, no idea about the possibility but now it’s going to be on my mind all day.
Love the video
Shanks has some connection to the world government, I suspect it has to do with his red hair.
I think he just knows how to talk to these nobles and realizes their power. It's not a twin, but Shanks, who is a more complex character than we think. He will talk differently to Luffy or crew members than to nobles.
This aint shanks this stab
HMMM
You cooked, great video, and man the shanks is a rat agenda/memes are gonna age like milk when its revealed to be his brother, gonna be a sad day
He is still a rat, he use his figarland identity to stop war. And to gain yonko title
@@Shubham-hr5uw real shanks travels under water through current and that's why he got emporers title
@@Shubham-hr5uwstop being slow
Since we know that Shanks was in a treasure chest at God Valley, it makes even more sense for there to be a twin brother of him and Garling, as his personality goes as we've seen untill now, wouldn't be out of character for him to put one of his own twin sons as a prize in the chests.
Really well made video!!! Keep up the awesome work!!!!
You too late son, now it's about time story unfolds this.
One thing you missed is that Shanks clearly stole the Gum Gum Fruit from the hands of the world-goverment. I dont think that after that he would be let in.
The more i think about the twin theory the less it makes sense, shanks meeting with the gorosei was meant to be mysterious on who he was snitching on and was soft confirming his celestial dragon lineage to be able to assemble a meeting with the gorosei to begin with with film red hard confirming it. Based on what we currently know about the god knights they are a both a judicial and fighting force of the celestial dragons to solve internal matters and they like to play twisted games for sport they arent interested in the threat of pirates, thats the job of the marines while the gorosei are focused on maintaining the balance of power
And inspite of Shanks past actions to deny the elders for having the nika fruit, he had some crucial info that the elders were keen on hearing but warcury and venusjuro couldn't help but deride shanks while mars and saturn was eager to hear what info shanks would divulge, some of the gorosei patronizing a god knight doesnt make sense to me, im starting to think oda is playing a long con troll on his readers once he caught wind of the shanks twin theory burgeoning in the jp community
You missing points i think. Shanks is a pirate noone would want shanks to return to the government side. The five elders would never respect him, they would only use him for information and they would never allow him to step inside the meeting room and have conversation with him
@stavros222 yea my take didnt age well now did it XD, i think i was more pushing back on the fervor of the theory and overlooked most of the good points that was made about it as i was trying to bring an alternative perspective, i usually do so when the groupthink is real strong on one theory(i did the same when a majority of the community was going crazy on the illusion theory when oda made many drawing errors in chapter 1127) oda is delivering on the twin theory or trolling in order to use 907 as an unpredictable plot twist
I would like to state that the man has a clear visible shirt collar, something only pre-timeskip shanks had, as in timeskip his shirt is almost fully open meaning the collar could not be near his face at all like it is in the gorosei panel.
Where do you see the collar…
I haven't considered this before, did not even think about it but now it’s going to be on my mind all day,
Love the video
In a world where we know cloning is a thing, it wouldn't shock me if Shanks we know is the original while the one they spoke with is the clone whom is doing work for them behind the scenes.
Good video. While this may prove that Shanks isn't entirely on friendly terms with the CDs, I still wonder how anyone will react or handle if he really has a twin brother, and how his encounter with people like Luffy will play out.
1134 spoilers confirms that he is shanks brother
It’s sneaky *“Stabs” Figarland.*
Well, there are old believes of twins will bring bad luck and such topic is quite common in manga. If someone put shanks in treasure chest by purpose to let him escape the fate of getting killed so young, presumably it was someone who actually love him. His mother maybe? Or someone else by the order of his mom?
dont forget that when dragon mentioned the holy knights the one in the fronts silhoutte looked very similar to shanks
Why would this celestial dragon twin actively hide his identity with such clothing tho?
Come to think about it, maybe because he looks like Shanks and didn't want to cause trouble during the Reverie
This is so cool ty for this. It would've been incredibly obvious for us english only people if Shanks started using weird formal english. The phase "and i appreciate that" isn't at all formal, and you can tell when someone is trying to speak formally
It’s not Shanks Twin it’s Gold D Roger Serephim with an eye patch
HE’S RIGHT
Bro was right lmao
luck
Some say he's talking about blackbeard some says he's gonna talk about luffy but he's actually gonna talk about most dangerous member of D clan Con D riano.
One of the prizes on god valley was a treasure chest that duplicates whatever is put inside…
Come to think of it, that makes perfect sense. Shanks having an evil twin would also be an excellent way to reinforce the story's themes about how blood isn't everything. In fact, the best way to do that would be for literally the only difference between the two to be upbringing; and yet have them be completely opposite people.
Great analysis.
You just earned a sub
Where are you from? Your accent sounds Finnish
That guy...from the latest chapter....could be called The Anti-Shanks!
Shanks could be a sort of reverse story from joker, figarland didnt give up his rank like jokers father and shanks hates him because of that, opposite of joker
Bro it’s a nice video you did a good job, but back to reality - the Gorosei let Shanks in because they’re absolutely terrified of the dude. He could wipe all 5 of them at once.
No 😂😂😂
Great video, we need more people like you that have this depth in analysing theories. By the way apparantly the translation when Mihawk attacked WhiteBard was mistranslated in the officiel release, can you make a video about it ?
That’s crazy to think how long it’s been hiding in plain sight, what else could have been overlooked?
I called it when i saw it. People finally catching up
Turns out this was true. This is why I'm telling you the next plot twist will be that imu is actually not the Nerona Imu but someone else from the void century that took over the name like obito and madara 🔥
0:16 Given how little Shanks actually shows up in the series, that probably didn take long XD
Theory sounds good, although I don't think the Gorosei have the exact mindset as the celestial dragons, considering they never wear those silly suits, so I don't agree that they would not allow Shanks to be there for living as a pirate, specially if there's some information they really want from him. And considering they seem to be the actual ones behind the government, not the Celesial Dragons, it would make more sense for Shanks to act more respectful towards them than to Marines or Whitebeard, even more if he knew all five of them could kill him if they wanted to.
Still, I think you are right, since Shanks having a twin would make more sense.
If I was a gods knight and my twin brother was a notorious pirate. I might want to hide my face too. Gotta be some kinda shame involved.
It's Scarless Hank of the Hank pirates!
There was even a panel where they showed shanks and then a silhouette who looks exactly like shanks on the same page 🤔
New one piece dream fight shanks twin vs mihawk😁
Shanks has no twins and he is not Evil. Yes, Shanks had a meeting with the Gorosei and he was speaking about a certain 👉 BlackBeard.
The even more challenging foes wgo had ties with Whitebears is BlackBeard, the man wants to be like the WG but worst.
It is normal at some point, Luffy and Shanks will deal against BlackBeard.
Recent chapter gives another hint you may be right. There's a shadowy figure with a saber like Shanks sword's tilt. He could be Xebec or that twin. I talk about the panel of people competing to get One Piece.
Oda out here taking notes
Aside from the video explanation, which is very interesting, Oda could have shown this character's profile with the scar to avoid any ambiguity.
The fact that he only showed the profile without the scar shows oda's desire to sow confusion.
and there's no point if it was Shanks
excited for part 2!
After reading chapter 1125 I think that he might be St. Figarland Garling, it's seems like Imu has some kind of power or influence over the Gorosei"s lifespan, this is suggested by the way Imu killed Saturn.
outstanding
Not hard to say it's a Vega clone but it'd be better if it was his bro or smt
Momo is peak formal japanese
It could def just be Shanks though as shanks is show multiple times to be the strongest w his haki even scaring an admiral away from a distance and by stopping kaido from joining the marineford war. He couldve just powered his way through and they couldnt do anything because they didnt want marijioa (however its spelled) to suffer any damage
But wasn't there a panel close to that scene where it shows shanks ship on the red line?
Another important evidence is Shanks' bounty. A bounty means that the World Government wants to capture him by any means, dead or alive, and he literally has the highest known bounty in the entire manga. That makes him the one man that the Government wants to capture the most out of any other character, so it feels really weird for them to let him in their headquarters and have a chat like it's nothing
I mean tbh we know that shanks is a celestial dragon and when he tried to stop the war sengoku said "ill stop the war only because its you redhair" which means maybe after shanks found out that he is celestial dragon he took the advantage to stop the war and have access to meeting the five elders since he is "noble" that is my theory i might be wrong tho
And the fact that , they dont show the side of the face with the scars and he has a cloak to hid his clothes and doesnt show his arms ,
undertale people been doing this for years.
What if the mark that blackbeard did to original shanks is actually a sign to determine who's original shanks on those two
So crazy people guessed this so long ago
I used to think that shanks, while not an outright villain, was maybe an ally of circumstance to the gorosei. That he had special knowledge about the void century, and he was worried that were the truth about it to come out, the ensuing war would tear the world to pieces and kill millions of innocents. And so he protects the status quo.
But with OP being a very straightforward shonen manga, this kinda morally grey characterization probably wont fly. And the evil twin theory makes more sense in that regard
I don't think it's Shanks evil twin because it wouldn't make sense revealing him so late in the manga, first of all it would have to be proven why nobody recognized him not even Celestial Dragons, they have the wanted posters of Shanks. Either memories in Celestial Dragons are somehow erased. Then someone must have seen him if he can't teleport or he is a shapeshifter or the topic of time travel. It could just be a doppelganger. Otherwise he would have to be completely covered and wear a mask. Remember Shanks was aware of the significance and history of Luffys Devil Fruit. He could eat the fruit but he didn't. This is the strangest thing of all
Shanks brother- Shins
I wonder if shanks would help buggy get away from Mihawk and crocodile