Shanks having a twin brother is useless Character woudnt be unic and wouldnt be connected to anyone ( its a lame half/half , thats why the secret evil twin never works ) Buggy is the best masterpiece of Oda
My theory is Shanks has an older brother. Shank’s is the illegitimate son of Garling with a most likely dead slave mother, similar to Bonney. That’s why he was offered as a prize in the box. I can’t rationalize any other reason a world noble would be offered other than “dirty blood”. Shank’s older brother is the legitimate heir to the figarland family, a full blooded celestial.
@@TopSandMolecule Whole Mariejois is based on Rome. Gorosei are named after Roman gods, Imu Nerona is Nero (the guy who burned Rome) and Figarland name is specificaly describing that Romulus and Remus event because of the Fig+Garland. Could be a major hint for the "twin" theory. We already got some other hints for the "twin" theory with that "Shanks" Gorosei meeting and that weird stopping of Kaido before Marineford. That was in the New World, faar away from Marineford (other side of Red Line) and he wasnt even damaged. I think the twin stopped Kaido to save the Marines
@@wowenjoyer OMFG, it makes sense! Shit, 100% that the twin stopped Kaido on the orders of the Elders because the Marine would’ve lost the battle. Plus, it’s so convenient for the story that Shanks has a scar on his left side from Blackbeard (imagine if he didn’t have that scar, even though the same story played out - there would be no possible hint about the conclusion involving an evil brother). But for some reason, Blackbeard gave him a scar on his left side, and the most important scene doesn’t show his left side, where we could’ve 100% without a doubt identified him. Plus, chapter 1121. It’s a done deal. For sure, this theory is one of the most promising in One Piece right now.
Shanks indeed does has evil twin, but it's not the one who was talking with Gorosei. His brother is Blue-haired Banks, and he is yet to be introduced along with Buggy's red-haired brother, Shuggy, in upcoming One Piece Movie: Blue
@@Kais.K I know you're joking that OP's joke is more believable, but it would be cool if Shanks actually had a brother. The world government would be even more stacked.
something you didn't even mention: in the scene where "shanks" talks to the gorosei he is also conveniently wearing a cloak so we can't see if he is missing an arm or not
I was just about to comment that! Cuz if we think Oda has enough attention to detail to exclude the scar then I think the same logic can be applied to the comically oversized cloak "Shanks" was covered in
The cloak thing also suggests that whoever it was came discreetly that wanted to hide their identity. So, if it was a twin celestial dragon brother, then why would he bother with wearing a cloak?
@@dafeels3085They mention something along the lines of considering his status he shouldn’t be talking politics. I think as a holy knight he should carry out the orders of the elders not be telling them his opinion and so he came in secret to prevent other holy knights from being privy to his visit with the elders.
The pictures are not from the same angle. Look at the gap between the end of the eyebrows and the top of his nose. The one with the scar is larger indicating that it facing more towards us.
@@nonyabusiness366 I mean the anime did a front close up of Shanks face and they still chose not to show his scar, I'm not fully sold on the theory but that is suspicious
Honestly I encourage anyone who thinks this theory is too far fetched to rewatch that scene in the anime. The way the camera deliberately swings around shanks and avoids showing the scar is really obvious imo
@@enas_one All of the holy knights normally wear cloaks based on the silhouette we have seen and current Garling. Could also be to protect him from being seen by anyone without permission while at reverie
Really surprised you didn’t mention his arm either for that scene. Shanks has 3 key identifiers: his face scars, his arm, and his hair which has literally created his epitaph. In the scene with the gorosei, we don’t see the scars, we don’t see the fact that his arm is missing, and they do not call him by his name, title as yonko, or epitaph of Red Hair, like most people refer to him as. To go 0/3 in those categories in that scene is crazier than any theory in my mind.
2 of these are easily explainable He is wearing a cloak to hide his appearance so obviously we wont see his arm. For the name thing, we see his face in the very last panel of the chapter, so Oda wont spoil who it is due to the dramatic paneling of the page to give max impact to the reader. The scar thing is due to the angle of where we are looking at him.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 right but that’s my point. He is wearing a cloak, and his arm(s) are covered. Intentional or not those are the facts and his missing arm can’t be used to identify him. Even the anime goes out of the way to avoid showing his scar; whether it’s just the angle or not, we don’t see it, and it cannot be used to identify him. And again, whether it’s just dramatic paneling or intentional, his name is not used, and can’t be used to identify him. That’s a lot of coincidences in one short scene
okay but a counterpoint... why would they need to? why do they need to say "shanks..." when we can clearly see that it's him? i'm talking about Oda here lol. why would Oda state the obvious? that doesnt mean it's not Shanks, it just would be bad writing to have it be spelled out to us. we know it's Shanks. that's all there is to it
@@gwen6622that’s not the point though. All key identifying features of Shanks are left ambiguous for a reason. If Oda wanted us to know that it was Shanks for sure, he would have included a detail like the scar or missing arm, or at least had one of the gorosei refer to him as a yonko or call him red-haired. Because none of them are present, the fact that this could be someone other than Shanks himself seems pretty likely.
@@kuhplow8026 no lol. that's a really childish and insane way to think about things. you know what the identifying feature of Shanks we were shown was? his fucking face lol. imagine Oda in that moment drawing Shanks's face and then being like "oh i better show the scar so that people don't think this is Shanks's super secret evil twin!" lmao. you cant be serious
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Another thing to consider is if it was Shanks' brother who met with the Grosei, which I’m inclined to believe it is, the pirate he wanted to talk about is certainly Shanks. This seems to be more narratively fitting than the previous interpretation that it was Shanks meeting to discuss Blackbeard or Luffy.
The Gorosei's dialogue in chapter 907 though suggests that whoever it was came "all this way" and normally wouldn't just stroll in. The existence of other Figarlands is definitely possible, I don't think the dialogue quite supports that person being a God's Knight.
Maybe they exaggerated a bit and Shanks' brother lives at the bottom of the castle or somewhere close to Pangaea castle. So he had to make his way to the castle and then to the upper floors where the room of authority is.
he probably spies on the revolutionary and then he came across a poster of someone who looks like him and thought damn what did i do to get this bounty but then notices the scar and goes back all the way to mariejois covering his face to chat with the elders about who shanks really is
@@minorityzoro He probably didn't just realize who Shanks is because Shanks has been a yonko for years at this point. I think the brother theory makes a lot of sense for all the reasons morj stated, but just doesn't make sense in the context of the actual conversation that they had (as short as it was for us)
If there is someone who looks like Shanks walking around Marie Joah that's cause a lot of confisuin and trouble no ? Especially because of Shanks bounty poster So maybe he is hiding (?) as a secret trump card
He is also the man marked by flames. When Blackbeard's crew was talking about the man marked by flames and the final poneglyph, they theorized that the final poneglyph is in the hands of the government. Shanks' twin is that man. They specifically mentioned he sails a black ship with black sails, and this guy wears black robes as well. His role is to sail around in that black ship in order to prevent anyone from being able to find the final poneglyph that he has in his possession. It also makes sense in regards to Whitebeard's statement about his scar hurting when looking at Shanks. The last known location of that poneglyph was Fishman Island, which happened to be Whitebeard's territory. Perhaps he scarred Whitebeard when taking the poneglyph?
@@koolkid533not necessarily if they keep it away from mariejois then it keeps the general population of celestial dragons oblivious to what’s rly going on and the void century. also if they leave it on the sea they could use it as a trap and as a way to know who’s close to finding the one piece
I always thought about what whitebeard said about his scar and I always thought he was talking about Garling since they fought in god’s valley and young Garling looks identical to shanks
@@koolkid533 in theory yes but moving it around continually is smarter which means that its never in one place for too long and its indestructible so they dont want actual pursuers or rogue celestials like don quixotes to stumble apon it and they can just delegate the task to some haxor leet character who can one tap anyone trying to get it, it also could be just some outsider given the task of protecting it and they get celestial protection and immunity/benefits or a set amount of money whilst they drag it around the seas
“It’s not the tool, it’s how you use it” A trope is a trope. It’s how it’s implemented that makes it good or bad. And breadcrumbs and microscopic hints is a genius way to use the trope.
@@justno984Tropes can NEVER be bad. Only execution matters when it comes to the quality of writing. Plenty of well written series in entertainment media have used overrated or overused tropes, but their execution of it was done well.
Conspiracy theory: the Sea King that took Shank's arm delivered it to the WG and then Vegapunk developed a Shanks clone to lead the new gen God Knights
Totally disagree, unlike Doflamingo whos father was just a random celestial dragon who decided to leave the holy land together with his family, Shanks father is a holy knight, still active, even though Shanks decided to remain a pirate, due to some circumstences he ended up on a pirate ship, that's why Sengoku went along with Shanks request to end the war in Marineford and that's why Goroseis accepted to meet with him in Marijoe. Shanks doesnt have a twin/not twin brother. Thanks to his fathers position, he has some privileges that the other pirates don't and will never have.
Neither can you prove that Shanks has an evil twin/sibling, nor can you prove he doesn't. It all depends on Oda at the end of the day. Also you only addressed a single point out of like the 5 or more points he made. Why does Shanks have a dead or alive bounty if he's so freely able to keep a relationship with the Gorosei? Why does his scar not show on his side profile in the panel when it did in the past multiple times? Why do the Gorosei not call out his name or titles even once throughout the entire time he was there? Why does the silhouette have a saber identical to Gryphon? And many more.
Also, from how Figarland executed Mjosgard, he says something along the lines about if you support those who are below the Celestial Dragons, you are even worse than those vermins. That shows his strong beliefs in the superiority of being a Celestial Dragon, and him giving Shanks an exception would go against what he believes.
You forgot that Whitebeard says his injuries hurt when looking at Shanks face back when they met pre time skip. This could have been a major hint looking back at it.
It's crazy how from time to time people that make absurd unsubstantiated theories actually end up being right by pure chance. When we only had one panel with shanks without the scar, him having a twin was on par with many other schitzo theories that frankly don't even sound like they're in line with Oda's way of writing at all. Now it's starting to become more believable each passing chapter. And this is not even the first time something like this is happening in recent years
@@murderman8578 the one piece sea theory has never been absurd, nor that much unsubstantiated unless you go far back enough. And also not far from Oda's style. Not a schitzo theory at all, it was extremely reasonable from day 1
Nah, makes no sense for the Burn Scar man to be the Silhouette man. The Burn Scar man is said to be holding the last poneglyph, and from how it is stated, he kind of protects or takes care of it. If he was a contender for the One Piece, which the Silhouette man is, the Burn Scar man would be making moves and actually be participating in the race instead of remaining at a place taking care of the poneglyph.
20 years in and we know next to nothing about Shanks, it would be dumb for it to be that hollow of a character. I'm hoping that Twin idea is just to throw people off, maybe the Twin is actually a nice guy and is warning people about Shanks actually being kind of evil. Luffy having his last opponent be the guy that got him started on his journey would be kind of cool
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues I honestly think THAT would be hollow bc it's so predictable. Virtually everyone has basically said :either BB kills Shanks, Shanks fights Luffy in a Davy Back fight, or Shanks turns out to be a villain," and I think of the 3 options, evil Shanks would be the most hollow bc there'd be no buildup towards it. It's like when you have an entire story happen, and then the ending is "it was all a dream." It feels like it came out of nowhere. I think evil twin, while cliche, would be the best of both worlds, and maybe if evil Shanks is the one to kill, or at least defeat, Shanks, that would be better, imo.
Small detail that adds to this: the shadowed character is also holding their sword in their left hand, which is the dominant hand Shanks had before he lost that arm to the Lord of the Coast
Shanks meeting with the Gorosei is intriguing, it raises all sorts of questions. Why would an Emperor go to parley with his greatest enemies, and why would they let him? Oh, it turns out they didn't, it was a character we had no clues about prior to this point meeting with them because they're his boss. Same with the silhouette--we already know there's one guy who looks like Shanks working for the Celestial Dragons, why be so secretive about there being a second one? Shanks having a brother is a fine plot point in a vacuum, but it's the most anticlimactic answer given the information we've been provided.
What I saw analyzed on another video is that the man who approaches the Gorosei uses an entirely different manner of speaking in the original Japanese, something shanks has never used as he speaks exclusively informally.
Alot of people thought Shanks was evil or he will turn on luffy, well there you have it, this makes perfect sense. Instead of changing Shanks, let him have a brother that is pure evil and extremely strong like Shanks
What if shanks isn't even figarlands son, but actually a clone of figarland himself? Could explain why they looked identical, and this character could just be another clone they made after losing shanks.
@@vn9574 tbh i think the twin thing is more likely, the only known clone is of buckingham stussy and she along with vegapunk and caeser created it with MADS. That came after the rocks pirates fell at gods valley, and we know that shanks was found after the god valley incident.
Maybe shanks brother (the silhouette with the saber) is the mysterious dark guy that holds the last porneglyph and that is also how this shady mysterious guy ( with the burn scar) could „pop out“ of nowhere and be so strong that no one knows anything abt him and I also don’t know if he has a Bounty but this would explain why he doesn’t have one
Omg... I just realised, luffy never saw shanks with his scar right? So if he met "evil shanks" there's a lot of potential in the confusion of the meeting
An easy counter to this would be that if Shanks brother is part of the celestial dragons, why would he have to cover his body in a cloak, that to me signals that whoever it is doesn't want to be recognised by the rest of the celestial dragons hence hiding his identity, if this was shanks holy knight brother why would he do that? he would've just rocked up with his normal clothes.
Because he is needed to appear like he could be Shanks is the most likely reason if this is true... But maybe he was undercover on the "mortal" world and had just come back, IDK.
Remember in the flashback how all the inferior celestial dragons were crazy about Garling, screaming and all that? Dude has the same problem and didn't want those inferior nobles making a ruckus on his way there.
To hide the fact he’s not missing an arm from us, the readers. And the Gorosei mention “given his status” he shouldn’t be dealing with politics, it’s likely that God’s Knights aren’t to get involved in the affairs of the government, & act purely as police. It’d be like if a cop went up to congress and decided to give his opinion on how things should be done
The big thing that points against the twin/brother theory is why would he need to obscure himself with a cloak? Celestial dragons are mostly ignorant towards any people on the "lower" seas, so how many actually know about Shanks and also the twin/brother can change his hair style to look a bit different. And for his role in the story, does he really need much of story? And even if we give him a "bigger" role in the story, his father fits the role. He is old, yes, but you can get around that by a secret Figarland bloodline plot armor that if they use both arms they get stronger, so Shanks cannot use his actual full power but Garling can which will make them equal. Well or Oda find another way for amnesia to work that out😂
The people hating this are just focused on the evil twin aspect. Its just a brother. The point is for Oda to show how there is nothing truly that makes nobility any different from other humans. This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. Two brothers but one is “genetically perfect” and is given and shown more love. The brother ends up so badass he’s able to pass as a genetically perfect person. Poor summary on my part but the movie is well done and doesn’t really use the trope but it heavily reminds me of the same idea. 2 competing bros but only 1 has to prove himself
It's possible but they say "Why did you come all this way?" and mentions he should have nothing to do with politics. That doesnt sound like they're talking to a celestial dragon. That image of a Shanks lookalike, the silhouette, is suspicious, but I dunno.. doesnt add upp with the gorosei meeting shanks scene imo
@@cowdyayaad6378 why wouldnt they send him to clean up pirates I wonder? He could end everyone except yonko easily. But I guess it could be retconned, like Sabo not trying to save Ace
Its more likely, as some on this comment section have said, that he is a god's knight and as such is usually out there serving imu/the 5 gorosei, so it would be like if an fbi agent came up to the president and started giving his opinions on policy
Probably, but the anime forgetting it as well is kinda weird, it even begins the shot in a more frontal start. We also never got a resolution to that scene, what was the point of it if not a foreshadow of something? The old demons are already done fighting Luffy and we still don't know who the pirate "Shanks" wanted to talk about was .
Actually there’s a lot of evidence that Blackbeard’s inconsistent teeth is a clue to his original devil fruit/ability that lets him have multiple devil fruit powers and never sleep.
Blackbeards teeth might actually be supportive of a theory that he is multiple personalities in one. When the number of holes in his teeth switches his behaviour switches too
@@mrptr9013 Have you seen the episode where zoro from another universe got lost and ended up in this universe? I think it is deliberate in the shanks seen but anime do tend to do mistakes often.
It’s not confirmed that Garling is Shanks is father right?? Why does he keep saying that lmao they just share the same family name, garling could be shanks’s weird uncle
@@miguelvalence6019 I understand that but so many channels while making theories talk about certain things as if they are fact and cannon and I see brain dead idiots who watch to much theory content acting as if some things are 100% confirmed
For me, it’s the gorosei saying “you shouldn’t be involved in politics given your position.” They wouldn’t refer to him that way if he was a pirate! It’s the same way they were surprised when Garland entered
Everytime you say "the silhouette must be hidden for a good reason" I'll be there to say "Greenbull". Why would he have to be a god's knight? We already have Sabo an Dragon which are leader and subordinate on the same side. Why not another marine or rev actually?
The man marked by flames is presented as a caretaker or a protector of the last poneglyph, not a contender for the One Piece. It's very obvious both are different entities.
It really doesnt have to be even a twin. In a story with clones it could just be a clone where the celestial dragons are trying to make the perfect holy knight or something along those lines They could just be clones of figurland garling But that's why they needed vegapunks science to remove the will of clones. They made clones before that had their own will and left to go on and cause problems for them
personally i like the idea that if it is a twin then him and shanks are working together to potray a single person or shanks was abandoned in that chest because the other brother was deemed "superior"
Given that this was happening during Reverie I think hiding his appearance would make a lot of sense. There is no way that the news wouldn't print about this if he were to appear normally. His identity might be a secret for a reason
The Shanks meeting with the gorosei has an extra stubble of hair further back on his jawline compared to how the rest of the shadows are drawn on him. The Shanks we know lacks that "patch" of hair save his goatee
I think the hidden man in the spread is the one who was shown in thr gos valley small flashback during kuna's backstory. Which could also lead to him not being Shanks's twin but another figarland or someone entirely. Maybe the man with brun scars?
14:36 I think Shanks already does have a personal storyline to him. Like, there are a handful of things we can be reasonably certain about this man: 1. While he does love the guy, he is still somewhat critical of Roger (see post-marineford, where he said he wished Roger would cry) 2. Roger said something that made young Shanks cry 3. He’s a descendent of the CDs 4. His personality’s pretty similar to Luffy’s 5. Whatever else Shanks or Buggy knows about the true history, or being the pirate king, or whatever, Buggy doesn’t understand why Shanks didn’t go for the One Piece I think 1 and 2 are definitely somewhat related. Immediately after Roger’s words, Shanks was sad and angry. And while he never hated Roger, as he got older, he was able to see various flaws with Roger’s character, and that’s in part due to what Roger told him. 2 and 5 are probably related. From what we’re aware of, Buggy likely knows about Shanks’ heritage as well as whatever knowledge Shanks has of the void century. But he still doesn’t get why he didn’t go for the one piece. The reason why is likely because Buggy never learned what Roger said to Shanks. And here’s what 3 and 4 are about; Shanks is someone that, had he been around in the ancient kingdom, he would have been given the D name. He’s the perfect fit for the person that would bring the “Dawn” to the world. However, he’s a descendent of the celestial dragons. Roger discouraged him from being the one to claim the One Piece for this very reason, so Shanks has devoted his life to challenging this whole “Will of D” fate thing. He wants to prove that he is worthy of reaching the final island, regardless of what Roger said. However, he also loves Luffy, and he wants to see him achieve his dreams. Shanks realizes that he’d be okay with losing to Luffy, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to prove himself, too.
What I feel it’s cool about this theory is the Dressrosa parallel. We already knew that Dressrosa spoils the end war in some way. But with this theory, Shanks is reverse Doflamingo. Doffy is a bad celestial dragon with a good father and brother that wanted to go back to Marijoa. Shanks would be a good celestial dragon with a bad father and brother, and he despises Marijoa.
I feel like there's a couple massive holes in this theory. 1. While it might seem strange for Shanks to meet with the Gorosei, it would be much weirder for that person to be a Holy Knight. Why would someone who lives in Mary Geoise need to wear a cloak? It seems much more strange to me for someone to hide their identity in friendly territory than it is for someone to hide their identity in enemy territory. 2. While Celestial Dragons lose their status if they choose to live as a human, they do seem to still have some sway in the Government. Despite the fact Doflamingo lost his status, he was still able to manipulate the papers in order to trick Law something that was noted to be something only World Nobles are capable of. There's also the case that, while the Gorosei usually refer to all human life as "insects," they only refer to Bonney (who wasn't even born in the Holy Land) as a "little girl." It seems to me that if you've made enough of a name for yourself, your lineage may be recognized but you still won't be considered one of them. In Star Wars terms, they're essentially on the council but without the rank of Master. This is not saying that it's impossible for Shanks having an evil twin or sibling (it would be really intriguing as cliche as it sounds), but I feel like some of the logic in this video is a bit flawed.
When you look like one of the four yonko walking around the holy land hiding your face would save you a lot of trouble. Especially if you are actively trying to stay hidden.
@@parzavaal5335He wouldn’t have the scar though and he’d have both arms. On top of that, realistically Shanks to the CD’s has to look like this character(if he exist) or they’d think he resembles Garling in his prime. Shanks has only been a yonko for 4-6 years. His bounty was only 1 billion at 27 years old. Theres no way to say CD’s even knew what he looked like until he was in his 30s. By that time his brother would be known in Mary Geoise?
Hey Morj, love your contlent! About 9:05 I'm pretty sure it's Rocks. He also wielded a sabre and his nose profile is also quite sharp. Plus Oda mentioned a character with an eye patch will appear in the final phase of the story. Seeing that he just revealed the characters at the center of it all, I'd like to think this is the time he was referring to. Loved the theory though! Can't wait to see where this all leads
I'd heard the evil twin theory before in passing but never knew or thought about the fact that you can't see his scar in the scene with he elders. That pretty much sold me right there. I'm all on board for this theory being correct now lol. Great vid Morj
was looking through history stuff for gaming reasons and I came across a historical Mercenary group known as "Redshanks" which were soldiers typically from scottish highlands who were usually contracted to fight in Ireland. I didn't look into it much but the connections are pretty interesting lol with both the similair names and Shanks connection to giants who have that norse-scottish theme. overall it doesn't really explain much but would be a pretty neato theory for the origins of Shanks namesake methinks
“Shanks is the son of Figarland Garling.” I feel like I’ve been going crazy for months hearing about this. When did we all decide this was true, no questions asked? Shanks is only implied to be a Figarland, and that was in a non-canon movie. I’m not saying Shanks is definitely not a Figarland, but jumping to conclusions based off of non-canon material makes for weaker theories.
@@cond.oriano3264 Nah, his face isn't as wide as Shanks'. It's possible that it's because the only panels we saw of young Figarland were zoomed out, so we haven't gotten those up close shots of him young. But as of right now, they resemble each other, but don't look identical.
Evil Twin theory would also put light on Shanks relationship with Buggy his adopted brother. And you know one of One Pieces main themes is found family sooooo…. Yeah
@@ucpr2017 when did I state my headcanon? The way Oda answers questions is often in a sarcastic manner so we can't be too sure if he's giving us serious answers or not. Grain of Salt people! If I was in Oda's shoes I'd be playing 4D chess mindgames with my Fandom.
Taking down the world government would be very difficult and I believe Oda has plans for a major storyline for the final battle. Not just "these guys fighting these guys", but a complex story-driven arc that would connect the Ancient Kingdom, Rocks, the Gods Knights, Shanks and his family, Cross Guild, Blackbeard, SWORD...there are so many factions and unresolved plot threads that readers overlook. I believe the final war can be far longer than we expect.
None of this changes that it's an asspull among a ton of other asspulls. This is literally "crocodile's nephew" but 100x worse. Why was Yamato an issue for you but this is supposed to lead to great writing. The only reason there's a chance for this, is that Oda loves shoving in unnecessary characters and plot lines and factions instead of developing the existing ones, some of which are in dire need of it.
All classic Romantic stories have asspulls. They weren't written to be rational. Every Prince saves Princess from Dragon story has asspulls, but that doesn't make them bad stories per say
@@kiyoinaa the whole point about asspulls is that they are bad, they're unsatisfying and in this case they're completely unnecessary and silly as well. Shanks' evil twin is not a story that One Piece needed and frankly it would only waste time and be a shit storyline. There's nothing the twin could do that the dad doesn't already fulfill, and he already wasn't really necessary. We don't need to know how Shanks would've turned out if he was raised by celestial dragons, we know already. It just doesn't add anything valuable.
@@deliciousdishes4531 well, thats your opinion. i think it could add a lot to the story. sure you don't agree but at the end of the day Oda has had the final saga planned for a while, wether the asspull happens or not... if it's objectively bad when it happens then it's reasonable to complain, otherwise it's just lame whining for basically nothing. i enjoyed the merry being alive thing even tho it was an asspull and wouldnt have made sense in Alabasta. just give it time and see what Oda does with it (or not). there definitely is potential for something here.
Watch Kid get his run back against Shank's evil brother, Dank.
kid fighting fishes rn
@@isaacblau_he's throating crab turds right now
You means Stabs ?
Nah he's named thanks
@@isaacblau_he is in the ancient Kingdom
Imagine buggy meeting shanks twin for the first time and talk to him the same way he talk to shanks 😂
@jaywbell2002
This will happen
Shanks having a twin brother is useless
Character woudnt be unic and wouldnt be connected to anyone ( its a lame half/half , thats why the secret evil twin never works )
Buggy is the best masterpiece of Oda
evil shanks wouldnt stand a chance unless he has counter devil fruit to buggy xD
his subordinates would worship him even more, emperor buggy is not even afraid of celestial dragon's god knights 😂
Wrong, he actually has a secret hot sister in the Holy Knights.
Wrong again, he actually has a secret MILF in the Holy Knights.
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you watch too much tekking lol
you're dumb, with a beard? that joke doesn't even make sense
Ah, I see you're man of culture as well
My theory is Shanks has an older brother. Shank’s is the illegitimate son of Garling with a most likely dead slave mother, similar to Bonney. That’s why he was offered as a prize in the box. I can’t rationalize any other reason a world noble would be offered other than “dirty blood”. Shank’s older brother is the legitimate heir to the figarland family, a full blooded celestial.
this
i like this
But Shanks looks too much like his father (?) so I wonder if he is full blood? I think Oda is cooking something different
@@godwishgamer He and his brother would have the same dad, different moms. So they’d all look like Prime Garling we saw in God Valley.
This makes more sense to me if Shanks really has a brother
Morj has an Evil Twin (who uploads the Wano Analysis): ALL EVIDENCE (none)
Paravision is doing a Wano analysis?
Bro actually love reacted to this comment and decided not to do anything about Wano analysis
@@NicSantiagoGPar being the evil twin is the plot twist
In Roman mythology, Romulus and Remus are twin brothers found under the Fig tree.
Fig twins?
Figarland twins?
Roman emperors wore a Garland (that leaf crown) on their heads. Fig + Garland. We might just cooked something my man.
@@wowenjoyerAncient Rome is a setting Oda has been saving. No way we close one piece without seeing a civilization based on Rome.
Hol' up thats...... HOLY SHIT
@@TopSandMolecule Whole Mariejois is based on Rome. Gorosei are named after Roman gods, Imu Nerona is Nero (the guy who burned Rome) and Figarland name is specificaly describing that Romulus and Remus event because of the Fig+Garland. Could be a major hint for the "twin" theory. We already got some other hints for the "twin" theory with that "Shanks" Gorosei meeting and that weird stopping of Kaido before Marineford. That was in the New World, faar away from Marineford (other side of Red Line) and he wasnt even damaged. I think the twin stopped Kaido to save the Marines
@@wowenjoyer OMFG, it makes sense! Shit, 100% that the twin stopped Kaido on the orders of the Elders because the Marine would’ve lost the battle. Plus, it’s so convenient for the story that Shanks has a scar on his left side from Blackbeard (imagine if he didn’t have that scar, even though the same story played out - there would be no possible hint about the conclusion involving an evil brother). But for some reason, Blackbeard gave him a scar on his left side, and the most important scene doesn’t show his left side, where we could’ve 100% without a doubt identified him. Plus, chapter 1121. It’s a done deal. For sure, this theory is one of the most promising in One Piece right now.
Shanks indeed does has evil twin, but it's not the one who was talking with Gorosei. His brother is Blue-haired Banks, and he is yet to be introduced along with Buggy's red-haired brother, Shuggy, in upcoming One Piece Movie: Blue
More believable than this
Alright, the names killed me because they actually sound believable
@@Kais.KScreenshotting to rub it in your face when it turns out to be a shanks doppelganger.
@@mups4016 I'd love to be proven wrong
@@Kais.K I know you're joking that OP's joke is more believable, but it would be cool if Shanks actually had a brother. The world government would be even more stacked.
"Oda often just writes parents and children looking identical"
Then there's Dragon and Luffy 😂😂
luffy migh be exactly equal to his mom, which has the same traits as garp
Dragon aint his real father, just wait for it
Katakuri and Big Mom 💀
I am DESPERATE for Dragon to get beat up by Luffy at this point
Ahem..... crocodile....coughs....
something you didn't even mention: in the scene where "shanks" talks to the gorosei he is also conveniently wearing a cloak so we can't see if he is missing an arm or not
I was just about to comment that! Cuz if we think Oda has enough attention to detail to exclude the scar then I think the same logic can be applied to the comically oversized cloak "Shanks" was covered in
The cloak thing also suggests that whoever it was came discreetly that wanted to hide their identity. So, if it was a twin celestial dragon brother, then why would he bother with wearing a cloak?
@@dafeels3085They mention something along the lines of considering his status he shouldn’t be talking politics. I think as a holy knight he should carry out the orders of the elders not be telling them his opinion and so he came in secret to prevent other holy knights from being privy to his visit with the elders.
@@dafeels3085 also Oda loves giving characters cloaks just bc cloaks are cool, Garling himself literally wears a cloak lol
Jesus Christ, here is an idea..... He was wearing an oversized cloak to hide his identity because he is a pirate....😮😮😮 Who would have thought
The fact that the scar is ALSO missing in the anime, is too huge to ignore.
The pictures are not from the same angle. Look at the gap between the end of the eyebrows and the top of his nose. The one with the scar is larger indicating that it facing more towards us.
@@nonyabusiness366 I mean the anime did a front close up of Shanks face and they still chose not to show his scar, I'm not fully sold on the theory but that is suspicious
Honestly I encourage anyone who thinks this theory is too far fetched to rewatch that scene in the anime. The way the camera deliberately swings around shanks and avoids showing the scar is really obvious imo
@@300PIVOTMASTER Why wear a cloak though if he is one of their own?
@@enas_one All of the holy knights normally wear cloaks based on the silhouette we have seen and current Garling. Could also be to protect him from being seen by anyone without permission while at reverie
Sabo has an evil twin brother (Soba Mask)
😂 Lmfao
sabo mask
No I’m pretty sure soba mask is sogeking since we have never seen them together so far. And we know sogeking is from sniper island so it can’t be him
Stealth black
I am proud of Morj, he only repeated 10 times his last point and not all the points in the video. This is an improvement.
TOO REAL. i love his videos and theories and analyses, BUT LORD
Really surprised you didn’t mention his arm either for that scene.
Shanks has 3 key identifiers: his face scars, his arm, and his hair which has literally created his epitaph. In the scene with the gorosei, we don’t see the scars, we don’t see the fact that his arm is missing, and they do not call him by his name, title as yonko, or epitaph of Red Hair, like most people refer to him as.
To go 0/3 in those categories in that scene is crazier than any theory in my mind.
2 of these are easily explainable
He is wearing a cloak to hide his appearance so obviously we wont see his arm.
For the name thing, we see his face in the very last panel of the chapter, so Oda wont spoil who it is due to the dramatic paneling of the page to give max impact to the reader.
The scar thing is due to the angle of where we are looking at him.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 right but that’s my point. He is wearing a cloak, and his arm(s) are covered. Intentional or not those are the facts and his missing arm can’t be used to identify him. Even the anime goes out of the way to avoid showing his scar; whether it’s just the angle or not, we don’t see it, and it cannot be used to identify him. And again, whether it’s just dramatic paneling or intentional, his name is not used, and can’t be used to identify him. That’s a lot of coincidences in one short scene
okay but a counterpoint... why would they need to? why do they need to say "shanks..." when we can clearly see that it's him? i'm talking about Oda here lol. why would Oda state the obvious? that doesnt mean it's not Shanks, it just would be bad writing to have it be spelled out to us. we know it's Shanks. that's all there is to it
@@gwen6622that’s not the point though. All key identifying features of Shanks are left ambiguous for a reason. If Oda wanted us to know that it was Shanks for sure, he would have included a detail like the scar or missing arm, or at least had one of the gorosei refer to him as a yonko or call him red-haired. Because none of them are present, the fact that this could be someone other than Shanks himself seems pretty likely.
@@kuhplow8026 no lol. that's a really childish and insane way to think about things. you know what the identifying feature of Shanks we were shown was? his fucking face lol. imagine Oda in that moment drawing Shanks's face and then being like "oh i better show the scar so that people don't think this is Shanks's super secret evil twin!" lmao. you cant be serious
12 holy knights = 12 celestial signs
Shanks/Brother = Gemini
Inzane cooking
I like that!
If you get this right you deserve a prize man! 😂
@@ZaneBlalock they can also be based on the 12 Archangels too
Feels legit, we'll see how it ages
“Stabs” really out here on the prowl.
Shivs.
It can’t be evil shanks, he doesn’t have a swirly mustache.
Can't believe that evil shanks stock is on the rise
No, evil shanks is the one where shanks is evil. Shanks evil twin is an even more cartooney plot twist
@@SJNaka101depending on how its conveyed it could be a great plot point
And I was the very few first to buy into those stocks. I’m already a millionaire for the value now, I’m waiting to be completely revealed to make myself a billionaire 🎉🎉🎉
I wish they would rugpull this bullshit
@@presidentialkingdom2201 silly and cartoonish things can be good.
Another thing to consider is if it was Shanks' brother who met with the Grosei, which I’m inclined to believe it is, the pirate he wanted to talk about is certainly Shanks. This seems to be more narratively fitting than the previous interpretation that it was Shanks meeting to discuss Blackbeard or Luffy.
thats the twist I expect from Oda and has been my headcanon for years
The Gorosei's dialogue in chapter 907 though suggests that whoever it was came "all this way" and normally wouldn't just stroll in. The existence of other Figarlands is definitely possible, I don't think the dialogue quite supports that person being a God's Knight.
Maybe they exaggerated a bit and Shanks' brother lives at the bottom of the castle or somewhere close to Pangaea castle.
So he had to make his way to the castle and then to the upper floors where the room of authority is.
he probably spies on the revolutionary and then he came across a poster of someone who looks like him and thought damn what did i do to get this bounty but then notices the scar and goes back all the way to mariejois covering his face to chat with the elders about who shanks really is
that is my theory because they also gave a resentment towards him. like who said you can leave your post and that did cost them cu sabo sneaked in
@@minorityzoro He probably didn't just realize who Shanks is because Shanks has been a yonko for years at this point. I think the brother theory makes a lot of sense for all the reasons morj stated, but just doesn't make sense in the context of the actual conversation that they had (as short as it was for us)
If there is someone who looks like Shanks walking around Marie Joah that's cause a lot of confisuin and trouble no ? Especially because of Shanks bounty poster
So maybe he is hiding (?) as a secret trump card
You didn’t even bring up the whole silhouette of the God Knights and the leader literally looking like Shanks
He mentioned Figarland looking identical to Shanks multiple times.
He is also the man marked by flames. When Blackbeard's crew was talking about the man marked by flames and the final poneglyph, they theorized that the final poneglyph is in the hands of the government. Shanks' twin is that man. They specifically mentioned he sails a black ship with black sails, and this guy wears black robes as well. His role is to sail around in that black ship in order to prevent anyone from being able to find the final poneglyph that he has in his possession.
It also makes sense in regards to Whitebeard's statement about his scar hurting when looking at Shanks. The last known location of that poneglyph was Fishman Island, which happened to be Whitebeard's territory. Perhaps he scarred Whitebeard when taking the poneglyph?
Interesting
Wouldn’t mariejois be a safer place to prevent someone from finding the road poneglyph than a ship in the middle of the ocean?
@@koolkid533not necessarily if they keep it away from mariejois then it keeps the general population of celestial dragons oblivious to what’s rly going on and the void century. also if they leave it on the sea they could use it as a trap and as a way to know who’s close to finding the one piece
I always thought about what whitebeard said about his scar and I always thought he was talking about Garling since they fought in god’s valley and young Garling looks identical to shanks
@@koolkid533 in theory yes but moving it around continually is smarter which means that its never in one place for too long and its indestructible so they dont want actual pursuers or rogue celestials like don quixotes to stumble apon it and they can just delegate the task to some haxor leet character who can one tap anyone trying to get it, it also could be just some outsider given the task of protecting it and they get celestial protection and immunity/benefits or a set amount of money whilst they drag it around the seas
If evil Mario is Wario
And evil Luigi is Waluigi
Then evil Shanks is
Wanks
Now we know how he also lost his arm
Baby Shanks wearing an outfit that had a sun, moon, and star on it. That’s a Celestial baby.
Fanmade art
@1manshow10 based on Oda's description from the manga realised along with film red (forgot the name)
“It’s not the tool, it’s how you use it”
A trope is a trope. It’s how it’s implemented that makes it good or bad. And breadcrumbs and microscopic hints is a genius way to use the trope.
Agree
it's a horrible and cringey trope... pls stop defending this 🤦♂️
@@justno984Tropes can NEVER be bad. Only execution matters when it comes to the quality of writing. Plenty of well written series in entertainment media have used overrated or overused tropes, but their execution of it was done well.
@@vn9574 Bro give me one example of an evil twin trope that came out good?... it doesn't exist cuz it's cringy asf
Conspiracy theory: the Sea King that took Shank's arm delivered it to the WG and then Vegapunk developed a Shanks clone to lead the new gen God Knights
stop 😭😭
Somehow this is LESS stupid than the theory in the video
That's so bad.
Totally disagree, unlike Doflamingo whos father was just a random celestial dragon who decided to leave the holy land together with his family, Shanks father is a holy knight, still active, even though Shanks decided to remain a pirate, due to some circumstences he ended up on a pirate ship, that's why Sengoku went along with Shanks request to end the war in Marineford and that's why Goroseis accepted to meet with him in Marijoe. Shanks doesnt have a twin/not twin brother. Thanks to his fathers position, he has some privileges that the other pirates don't and will never have.
Neither can you prove that Shanks has an evil twin/sibling, nor can you prove he doesn't. It all depends on Oda at the end of the day.
Also you only addressed a single point out of like the 5 or more points he made.
Why does Shanks have a dead or alive bounty if he's so freely able to keep a relationship with the Gorosei? Why does his scar not show on his side profile in the panel when it did in the past multiple times? Why do the Gorosei not call out his name or titles even once throughout the entire time he was there? Why does the silhouette have a saber identical to Gryphon? And many more.
Also, from how Figarland executed Mjosgard, he says something along the lines about if you support those who are below the Celestial Dragons, you are even worse than those vermins. That shows his strong beliefs in the superiority of being a Celestial Dragon, and him giving Shanks an exception would go against what he believes.
The evil twin was absolutely warning the elders about Shanks
You forgot that Whitebeard says his injuries hurt when looking at Shanks face back when they met pre time skip. This could have been a major hint looking back at it.
It's crazy how from time to time people that make absurd unsubstantiated theories actually end up being right by pure chance. When we only had one panel with shanks without the scar, him having a twin was on par with many other schitzo theories that frankly don't even sound like they're in line with Oda's way of writing at all. Now it's starting to become more believable each passing chapter. And this is not even the first time something like this is happening in recent years
Morj was right about the one piece sea theory
@@murderman8578 the one piece sea theory has never been absurd, nor that much unsubstantiated unless you go far back enough. And also not far from Oda's style.
Not a schitzo theory at all, it was extremely reasonable from day 1
i disagree with this oda made it clear that shanks is a figarland which is a respected name in the celestial dragons so thats why they let him in
Oda watching Dune: Oh, a sandworm!
Oda watching the Acolyte: Oh, evil twin... with red hair?! 📝
Burn scar is objectively the most important character right now. The silhouette is most likely Burn scar
Nah, makes no sense for the Burn Scar man to be the Silhouette man. The Burn Scar man is said to be holding the last poneglyph, and from how it is stated, he kind of protects or takes care of it. If he was a contender for the One Piece, which the Silhouette man is, the Burn Scar man would be making moves and actually be participating in the race instead of remaining at a place taking care of the poneglyph.
The Sillohuette of Gods Knights when dragon mentioned them looked a lot like shanks too
Making apple juice with oranges tbh. Garland inst even confirmed to be shanks dad. using non confirmed info to prove anything is already shaky.
Shanks getting that Sanji/Mingo treatment.
Remember when Carrot thought Yonji was Sanji for a second ? It's the same thing here, someone who looks like Shanks exists among the Celestial Dragons
15:19 oh boy this didn't age well
Shanks stopped marineford battle so I can’t buy evil twin theory just yet
u dont have to lmao, nobody asked
I always hated the idea that Shanks is just the cool guy/mentor character that dies to the villain. I honestly hope this is true.
20 years in and we know next to nothing about Shanks, it would be dumb for it to be that hollow of a character. I'm hoping that Twin idea is just to throw people off, maybe the Twin is actually a nice guy and is warning people about Shanks actually being kind of evil. Luffy having his last opponent be the guy that got him started on his journey would be kind of cool
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues I honestly think THAT would be hollow bc it's so predictable. Virtually everyone has basically said :either BB kills Shanks, Shanks fights Luffy in a Davy Back fight, or Shanks turns out to be a villain," and I think of the 3 options, evil Shanks would be the most hollow bc there'd be no buildup towards it. It's like when you have an entire story happen, and then the ending is "it was all a dream." It feels like it came out of nowhere.
I think evil twin, while cliche, would be the best of both worlds, and maybe if evil Shanks is the one to kill, or at least defeat, Shanks, that would be better, imo.
@@what7530 How is Shanks the final villain more cliche than BB killing Shanks?
why would u think that way? because the lameahh teenager community thinks so? 🤣🤣
i liked the idea of shanks being a CD, makes his actions and his character alot more interesting
Small detail that adds to this: the shadowed character is also holding their sword in their left hand, which is the dominant hand Shanks had before he lost that arm to the Lord of the Coast
Shanks meeting with the Gorosei is intriguing, it raises all sorts of questions. Why would an Emperor go to parley with his greatest enemies, and why would they let him? Oh, it turns out they didn't, it was a character we had no clues about prior to this point meeting with them because they're his boss. Same with the silhouette--we already know there's one guy who looks like Shanks working for the Celestial Dragons, why be so secretive about there being a second one?
Shanks having a brother is a fine plot point in a vacuum, but it's the most anticlimactic answer given the information we've been provided.
What I saw analyzed on another video is that the man who approaches the Gorosei uses an entirely different manner of speaking in the original Japanese, something shanks has never used as he speaks exclusively informally.
Just say u got this from dawn dusk
Alot of people thought Shanks was evil or he will turn on luffy, well there you have it, this makes perfect sense. Instead of changing Shanks, let him have a brother that is pure evil and extremely strong like Shanks
What if shanks isn't even figarlands son, but actually a clone of figarland himself? Could explain why they looked identical, and this character could just be another clone they made after losing shanks.
Funny, I was literally just thinking this.
Yes
The whole clone thing is stupid and would ruin the series.
@@vn9574 tbh i think the twin thing is more likely, the only known clone is of buckingham stussy and she along with vegapunk and caeser created it with MADS. That came after the rocks pirates fell at gods valley, and we know that shanks was found after the god valley incident.
@vn9574 There are already clones though... Stussy is a clone, Vegapunk cloned his mind across 6-7 bots, etc...
"My name is Retep nd I am EVIL!"
Maybe shanks brother (the silhouette with the saber) is the mysterious dark guy that holds the last porneglyph and that is also how this shady mysterious guy ( with the burn scar) could „pop out“ of nowhere and be so strong that no one knows anything abt him and I also don’t know if he has a Bounty but this would explain why he doesn’t have one
Omg... I just realised, luffy never saw shanks with his scar right? So if he met "evil shanks" there's a lot of potential in the confusion of the meeting
Uh no shanks already had his scar in chapter 1.
@@blitzgaming9561 you're absolutely right 🤔 I don't know why I was so convinced he didn't...
An easy counter to this would be that if Shanks brother is part of the celestial dragons, why would he have to cover his body in a cloak, that to me signals that whoever it is doesn't want to be recognised by the rest of the celestial dragons hence hiding his identity, if this was shanks holy knight brother why would he do that? he would've just rocked up with his normal clothes.
Because he is needed to appear like he could be Shanks is the most likely reason if this is true... But maybe he was undercover on the "mortal" world and had just come back, IDK.
Remember in the flashback how all the inferior celestial dragons were crazy about Garling, screaming and all that? Dude has the same problem and didn't want those inferior nobles making a ruckus on his way there.
To hide the fact he’s not missing an arm from us, the readers. And the Gorosei mention “given his status” he shouldn’t be dealing with politics, it’s likely that God’s Knights aren’t to get involved in the affairs of the government, & act purely as police. It’d be like if a cop went up to congress and decided to give his opinion on how things should be done
cause it was during the reverie and there were other people there than just the celestial dragons lol?
he's literally the prince, what would u expect?
Shanks has third twin, remember when he suddenly had his left arm back?
El Hermano has finally arrived into the One Piece universe.
YES
The big thing that points against the twin/brother theory is why would he need to obscure himself with a cloak? Celestial dragons are mostly ignorant towards any people on the "lower" seas, so how many actually know about Shanks and also the twin/brother can change his hair style to look a bit different.
And for his role in the story, does he really need much of story? And even if we give him a "bigger" role in the story, his father fits the role. He is old, yes, but you can get around that by a secret Figarland bloodline plot armor that if they use both arms they get stronger, so Shanks cannot use his actual full power but Garling can which will make them equal. Well or Oda find another way for amnesia to work that out😂
The people hating this are just focused on the evil twin aspect. Its just a brother. The point is for Oda to show how there is nothing truly that makes nobility any different from other humans.
This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. Two brothers but one is “genetically perfect” and is given and shown more love. The brother ends up so badass he’s able to pass as a genetically perfect person. Poor summary on my part but the movie is well done and doesn’t really use the trope but it heavily reminds me of the same idea. 2 competing bros but only 1 has to prove himself
It's possible but they say "Why did you come all this way?" and mentions he should have nothing to do with politics. That doesnt sound like they're talking to a celestial dragon. That image of a Shanks lookalike, the silhouette, is suspicious, but I dunno.. doesnt add upp with the gorosei meeting shanks scene imo
He was probably in a mission. And yes it makes sense for him to not be involoved in politics.
@@cowdyayaad6378 why wouldnt they send him to clean up pirates I wonder? He could end everyone except yonko easily. But I guess it could be retconned, like Sabo not trying to save Ace
Its more likely, as some on this comment section have said, that he is a god's knight and as such is usually out there serving imu/the 5 gorosei, so it would be like if an fbi agent came up to the president and started giving his opinions on policy
With all the timesOda's fucked up which Teeth are missing from Blackbeard's mouth, its safe to say that Shanks scar missing was simply a mistake
Probably, but the anime forgetting it as well is kinda weird, it even begins the shot in a more frontal start.
We also never got a resolution to that scene, what was the point of it if not a foreshadow of something? The old demons are already done fighting Luffy and we still don't know who the pirate "Shanks" wanted to talk about was .
Actually there’s a lot of evidence that Blackbeard’s inconsistent teeth is a clue to his original devil fruit/ability that lets him have multiple devil fruit powers and never sleep.
Blackbeard's teeth might be a hint at an ability of his.
Blackbeards teeth might actually be supportive of a theory that he is multiple personalities in one. When the number of holes in his teeth switches his behaviour switches too
@@mrptr9013
Have you seen the episode where zoro from another universe got lost and ended up in this universe? I think it is deliberate in the shanks seen but anime do tend to do mistakes often.
It’s not confirmed that Garling is Shanks is father right?? Why does he keep saying that lmao they just share the same family name, garling could be shanks’s weird uncle
He's theorising.
This is the One Piece fandom.
@@miguelvalence6019 I understand that but so many channels while making theories talk about certain things as if they are fact and cannon and I see brain dead idiots who watch to much theory content acting as if some things are 100% confirmed
I like how Morji didn’t even mention the God Knight silhouette thay looks remarkably like Shanks
We donr know if Fingarland is Shanks's father tho. But it's very plausible that Shanks has a relative.
For me, it’s the gorosei saying “you shouldn’t be involved in politics given your position.” They wouldn’t refer to him that way if he was a pirate!
It’s the same way they were surprised when Garland entered
Everytime you say "the silhouette must be hidden for a good reason" I'll be there to say "Greenbull".
Why would he have to be a god's knight? We already have Sabo an Dragon which are leader and subordinate on the same side. Why not another marine or rev actually?
Imagine Luffy gets to meet Shanks properly after a decade apart, and Shanks replies with, "... Do I know you?"
The mystery man is 1000% the man marked by flames
If it’s not, I’ll donate my next paycheck to your channel
that's was my first thought as well
Screenshotting for posterity. I also agree btw
would be funny if you earn in negative
The man marked by flames is presented as a caretaker or a protector of the last poneglyph, not a contender for the One Piece. It's very obvious both are different entities.
It really doesnt have to be even a twin. In a story with clones it could just be a clone where the celestial dragons are trying to make the perfect holy knight or something along those lines
They could just be clones of figurland garling
But that's why they needed vegapunks science to remove the will of clones. They made clones before that had their own will and left to go on and cause problems for them
personally i like the idea that if it is a twin then him and shanks are working together to potray a single person or shanks was abandoned in that chest because the other brother was deemed "superior"
Can't wait for the reveal of dehydrated Weevil looking like a prime Whitebeard clone.
Imo if it was Shanks' brother or something he wouldn't really have to come see the Gorosei hidden under a cloak looking all suspicious lol
Given that this was happening during Reverie I think hiding his appearance would make a lot of sense. There is no way that the news wouldn't print about this if he were to appear normally. His identity might be a secret for a reason
The evil shanks also wanted to talk to the gorosei about a “certain pirate”. Probably meant the real shanks.
But why this "twin" should hide himself to talk to the Gorosei ? And why they said "You aren't concerned by politics" if he is a celestial knights ?
“Does Shanks have a mom?” Well I’d sure hope so.
Can’t wait for this theory to be WRONG
The Shanks meeting with the gorosei has an extra stubble of hair further back on his jawline compared to how the rest of the shadows are drawn on him. The Shanks we know lacks that "patch" of hair save his goatee
Yeahhhh the more I look at it, THATS NOT SHANKS
I think the hidden man in the spread is the one who was shown in thr gos valley small flashback during kuna's backstory. Which could also lead to him not being Shanks's twin but another figarland or someone entirely. Maybe the man with brun scars?
While i agree with all this when did we decide that was shanks father? Could be an uncle, grandpa etc
14:36 I think Shanks already does have a personal storyline to him. Like, there are a handful of things we can be reasonably certain about this man:
1. While he does love the guy, he is still somewhat critical of Roger (see post-marineford, where he said he wished Roger would cry)
2. Roger said something that made young Shanks cry
3. He’s a descendent of the CDs
4. His personality’s pretty similar to Luffy’s
5. Whatever else Shanks or Buggy knows about the true history, or being the pirate king, or whatever, Buggy doesn’t understand why Shanks didn’t go for the One Piece
I think 1 and 2 are definitely somewhat related. Immediately after Roger’s words, Shanks was sad and angry. And while he never hated Roger, as he got older, he was able to see various flaws with Roger’s character, and that’s in part due to what Roger told him.
2 and 5 are probably related. From what we’re aware of, Buggy likely knows about Shanks’ heritage as well as whatever knowledge Shanks has of the void century. But he still doesn’t get why he didn’t go for the one piece. The reason why is likely because Buggy never learned what Roger said to Shanks.
And here’s what 3 and 4 are about; Shanks is someone that, had he been around in the ancient kingdom, he would have been given the D name. He’s the perfect fit for the person that would bring the “Dawn” to the world. However, he’s a descendent of the celestial dragons. Roger discouraged him from being the one to claim the One Piece for this very reason, so Shanks has devoted his life to challenging this whole “Will of D” fate thing. He wants to prove that he is worthy of reaching the final island, regardless of what Roger said.
However, he also loves Luffy, and he wants to see him achieve his dreams. Shanks realizes that he’d be okay with losing to Luffy, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to prove himself, too.
Well technically, in the eyes of the Celestial Dragons, Shanks has a *good* twin.
The silhouette could be Loki.
Raid will fail + Gear 5 Luffy will lose to Kaido theories were made up by Morj's evil twin. The real Morj's on a generational win streak run rn
Morj still might be hoping that the skull of onigashima will become alive, another raid will occur and the raid on onigashima will end in failure.
What I feel it’s cool about this theory is the Dressrosa parallel. We already knew that Dressrosa spoils the end war in some way. But with this theory, Shanks is reverse Doflamingo. Doffy is a bad celestial dragon with a good father and brother that wanted to go back to Marijoa. Shanks would be a good celestial dragon with a bad father and brother, and he despises Marijoa.
Garling isnt shanks father….. never comfirmed
Cliches are like basic recipes. Like Egg Fried Rice. It's much more artistic to make these very good. And if done very good, they are the best!
I feel like there's a couple massive holes in this theory.
1. While it might seem strange for Shanks to meet with the Gorosei, it would be much weirder for that person to be a Holy Knight. Why would someone who lives in Mary Geoise need to wear a cloak? It seems much more strange to me for someone to hide their identity in friendly territory than it is for someone to hide their identity in enemy territory.
2. While Celestial Dragons lose their status if they choose to live as a human, they do seem to still have some sway in the Government. Despite the fact Doflamingo lost his status, he was still able to manipulate the papers in order to trick Law something that was noted to be something only World Nobles are capable of. There's also the case that, while the Gorosei usually refer to all human life as "insects," they only refer to Bonney (who wasn't even born in the Holy Land) as a "little girl." It seems to me that if you've made enough of a name for yourself, your lineage may be recognized but you still won't be considered one of them. In Star Wars terms, they're essentially on the council but without the rank of Master.
This is not saying that it's impossible for Shanks having an evil twin or sibling (it would be really intriguing as cliche as it sounds), but I feel like some of the logic in this video is a bit flawed.
Doflamingo was able to manipulate papers because of the secret he knows. Something about the 'Secret Treassure of Mary Geoise' or something.
When you look like one of the four yonko walking around the holy land hiding your face would save you a lot of trouble. Especially if you are actively trying to stay hidden.
@@parzavaal5335He wouldn’t have the scar though and he’d have both arms. On top of that, realistically Shanks to the CD’s has to look like this character(if he exist) or they’d think he resembles Garling in his prime. Shanks has only been a yonko for 4-6 years. His bounty was only 1 billion at 27 years old. Theres no way to say CD’s even knew what he looked like until he was in his 30s. By that time his brother would be known in Mary Geoise?
@@walterholyfield3203 you're right ig.
Hey Morj, love your contlent! About 9:05 I'm pretty sure it's Rocks. He also wielded a sabre and his nose profile is also quite sharp. Plus Oda mentioned a character with an eye patch will appear in the final phase of the story. Seeing that he just revealed the characters at the center of it all, I'd like to think this is the time he was referring to. Loved the theory though! Can't wait to see where this all leads
so no more shanks rat memes??
Mystery silhouette is the guy with the last road poneglyff
Shanks brothers named Thanks.
XD thanks you
My right ear enjoys this video
Nvm my AirPod just broke 😭
I'd heard the evil twin theory before in passing but never knew or thought about the fact that you can't see his scar in the scene with he elders. That pretty much sold me right there. I'm all on board for this theory being correct now lol. Great vid Morj
was looking through history stuff for gaming reasons and I came across a historical Mercenary group known as "Redshanks" which were soldiers typically from scottish highlands who were usually contracted to fight in Ireland. I didn't look into it much but the connections are pretty interesting lol with both the similair names and Shanks connection to giants who have that norse-scottish theme. overall it doesn't really explain much but would be a pretty neato theory for the origins of Shanks namesake methinks
“Shanks is the son of Figarland Garling.”
I feel like I’ve been going crazy for months hearing about this. When did we all decide this was true, no questions asked?
Shanks is only implied to be a Figarland, and that was in a non-canon movie. I’m not saying Shanks is definitely not a Figarland, but jumping to conclusions based off of non-canon material makes for weaker theories.
Do you think Garling just randomly looks exactly like Shanks for no reason?
Damn Morj don’t miss……except the raid lol
Figarland has the clone clone fruit and everyone that looks like him is a clone. Shanks is a clone
ryan gosling as evil shanks
Mmm, I don’t think Figarland looks EXACTLY like Shanks. There’s very small differences
Yeah, like the scars or you know… an entire arm.
@@cond.oriano3264 Nah, his face isn't as wide as Shanks'. It's possible that it's because the only panels we saw of young Figarland were zoomed out, so we haven't gotten those up close shots of him young. But as of right now, they resemble each other, but don't look identical.
Yea let’s introduce the brother of a character we’ve been dying to learn more about for 20+ years. Praying this isn’t the case.
Evil Twin theory would also put light on Shanks relationship with Buggy his adopted brother. And you know one of One Pieces main themes is found family sooooo…. Yeah
17 minutes of video and no mention that Shanks talking to the Gorosei was confirmed in Road to Laugh tale 😂
Can't always beleive everything Oda says. He has trolled fans repeatedly during SBS questions.
Bro is still waiting for the raid to fail
@@ReiseLukasbro said my headcanon is beyond ur facts even if u write the story😭😭😭
@@ucpr2017 when did I state my headcanon? The way Oda answers questions is often in a sarcastic manner so we can't be too sure if he's giving us serious answers or not. Grain of Salt people! If I was in Oda's shoes I'd be playing 4D chess mindgames with my Fandom.
@@ReiseLukas you do realise this whole theory is based on one panel of half of shanks face btw
Thats a really convincing point when you reversed the order of reveals, it makes a ton of sense like that!
Shanks has a hot twin Sister*
That phrase brings back memories lol😅
With a stubble beard?
nah I need yours
Taking down the world government would be very difficult and I believe Oda has plans for a major storyline for the final battle. Not just "these guys fighting these guys", but a complex story-driven arc that would connect the Ancient Kingdom, Rocks, the Gods Knights, Shanks and his family, Cross Guild, Blackbeard, SWORD...there are so many factions and unresolved plot threads that readers overlook. I believe the final war can be far longer than we expect.
None of this changes that it's an asspull among a ton of other asspulls. This is literally "crocodile's nephew" but 100x worse. Why was Yamato an issue for you but this is supposed to lead to great writing.
The only reason there's a chance for this, is that Oda loves shoving in unnecessary characters and plot lines and factions instead of developing the existing ones, some of which are in dire need of it.
All classic Romantic stories have asspulls. They weren't written to be rational. Every Prince saves Princess from Dragon story has asspulls, but that doesn't make them bad stories per say
@@ReiseLukasAgree- it can’t be logical, as with life too. My reference being the Former President
just because it seems like an asspull doesn't mean it's going to be bad, that's the whole point
@@kiyoinaa the whole point about asspulls is that they are bad, they're unsatisfying and in this case they're completely unnecessary and silly as well. Shanks' evil twin is not a story that One Piece needed and frankly it would only waste time and be a shit storyline. There's nothing the twin could do that the dad doesn't already fulfill, and he already wasn't really necessary. We don't need to know how Shanks would've turned out if he was raised by celestial dragons, we know already. It just doesn't add anything valuable.
@@deliciousdishes4531 well, thats your opinion. i think it could add a lot to the story. sure you don't agree but at the end of the day Oda has had the final saga planned for a while, wether the asspull happens or not... if it's objectively bad when it happens then it's reasonable to complain, otherwise it's just lame whining for basically nothing. i enjoyed the merry being alive thing even tho it was an asspull and wouldnt have made sense in Alabasta. just give it time and see what Oda does with it (or not). there definitely is potential for something here.