Want To Be A Better Sim Racer? Drive THIS Car.
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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mad respect for the black r34, what a guy!
Thanks🤙🏼
that was me lol trapizoid
you ain't the real trapizoid i am@@realactivi5t527
R34? 😳
@@realactivi5t527 wanna race?
the dude in the black r34 was absolute class. Massive respect for him.
I firmly believe that Takumi's 86 in first stage wasn't stock.
We all been told that Bunta has fiddled with it over the years.
I believe the chassis & suspension was tuned for stability.
I believe it had not more than 180hp, but may have had a short ratio gearbox.
But most importantly, I believe that car has been put through a lot of subtly concealed weight shedding to keep with up with powerful cars uptil 3rd gear.
I'm theorizing this bcz Bunta knows that the car should complement the driver's talent.
First stage is confirmed 150 hp and stage 4 is 250 hp
it wasnt confirmed to be 150. ryosuke thought that would be the maximum amount of horsepower based on how it launches. the transmission had short gears so it was good in tight turns and keeping up with competitors off the line
@@dustcollector4096 it was literally confirmed by the creator
180hp would be a full on racing engine. it still was a daily drivable car for the shop
Car in first stage was def tuned on suspension. As you said it was mentioned few times. About gearbox ratio im to completly sure as I was watching it with local subtittles and it was mentioned something as rally style short gearbox but in that translation it can mean both shorter ratio or just shorter gear travels for faster shifting.
the fact that they made it so you can do the gutter run is amazing
GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER DUDE
Hey I drove up and down this course in real life last week, in an FD RX-7 with my mates in an R34 and an S15!
Going around those hairpins I almost couldnt believe how fast people were actually street racing through them.
I'm jealous.
hey how do you play multiplayer witz mods?
@@xate6746 you have to find sever with mods on it, these togue servers usually have well known and good mods you can download for free. Or just buy your own server for 5 usd, thats what me and my friends did and now can play whatever car and track we want.
It is so true what you were saying about not needing 1000bhp to have fun. Since we started going out on track we've had several occasions in our Mini Cooper and Cooper S where we are faster round a lap than some fire breathing monster that does 4745mph on the straights but is completely useless when the track changes direction. It is 100% more fun being able to go flat out over a whole lap rather than full throttle for 8 seconds then waiting for the next straight to do it again.
Low HP and low weight is always better with driver skill!!!
The mini was so fun in DR 2
Mini S's are just insane little rippers
I literally never comment on RUclips videos but I have to say I couldn't agree more (although I'm definitely biased being an R56 Cooper S owner).
I've thought about selling it multiple times over the years but everytime I asked myself, "What else can I buy for the same amount of money, that is the same amount of fun?" and the answer is always the same, I can't think of anything else that provides the same amount of "Smiles per Gallon" as a Cooper S, great little go-karts!
It's a very specific itch that Togue Union and SRP scratch of the urge to push 80's and 90's JDM icons to their limit, like our own episodes of Best Motoring.
If you'd have told me growing up not only could I play with the cars I loved on Gran Turismo on proper country roads, and have the ability to do that with people around the world, I wouldn't have ever thought it possible.
The most fun I've had playing racing games is racing random people through traffic in SRP
Sometimes when technology and passions combine you get something like this..
Now imagine this in real life, a road like this closed off permanently for track use.
I wish they would make a game just about this, with you having to maintain your car, upgrade it, change tyres, fix things and race to earn money. A bit like the old Street Rod games for DOS. That would be so much fun!
I'm guessing you haven't heard about tokyo xtreme racer series?
beamng in time probably, when the career mode releases
@@flippy9133 Oh yeah that would be a great game for something like that!
There's a few racers like that, many of them quite old now. NFS: Porsche Unleashed (PC version, NOT the PS1 version) was pretty much like that, only it started you off in the 1950's. You bought a 356, raced them on road courses, you had to fix whatever damage you incurred during the race, and it was advised to buy and install upgrades to make it faster. You could even buy beat up used cars and flip them for profit.
It's a bit outdated these days, but still a compelling game. The TXR series had a bit of that going on, only no damage to repair. Unfortunately, awful physics made those games tough to get into. Ripping around the Tokyo highway system looking for cars to race was definitely a bit of a vibe, though.
@@mbgmadbull1141 there hasn't been a new one of those in 17 years
If anyone wants to drive on "Akina" in a video game and not a mod, its actual real life name is Haruna, and this mountain road appears in Tokyo Xtreme Racer Drift series. It's also obviously in the Initial D games too.
My favorite low HP combo in asseto is a stock Suzuki cappuccino at laguna seca. You can do the ENTIRE course in 3rd gear. A shift to 2nd in the final corner can gain you a tenth but other than that it really lets you focus on your lines and carrying speed
Jimber play my summer car
I agree
Jimber play car finland 🤔
He did a couple my summer car streams a few years ago
@@wesleyturtscher1584 True but he didn't even finish the car in those streams
What jimmer said about gt3 sim racing is so true. I one hundred percent agree that you learn more about car control with a 130bhp japanese box in 30 minutes than u do with a gt3 at spa in a lot longer. Gotta love the good ol boxy boys
dam these edits are amazing ! nice little cut scene type with the first run
I've spent thousands of hours doing exactly this. I'd just turn on some music, put on the VR headset, and keep replaying the track all day long.
You can also get a cars rear end to slip by shifting down without hitting any other pedals besides the clutch. I only do this after I heel toe in for the entrance and then I shift down while holding the clutch in to step the cars rear end out. This has allowed me to slide the car through the corner at high speeds. The AE86 is definitely the perfect car for learning your own technique which is what I did.
I spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to match that 5:22. Managed at 5:30 so far so I'll take my achievement lol. I've got alot of time to make up on the hairpins getting it turned in but I'm coming for you Jimmer!
What server is it on?
@@taransandhu471 it's called Touge Life #1
@@taransandhu471 late reply but 90% sure it's Touge Union
what version of the car and the track is he using
I'm gonna see how fact I can get in that 86.
Back in the last part of the 90s a guy i knew had a completely stock AE86, in a blue close to the last one that followed you. I absolutely loved that car. How it behaved in corners, how the engine sounds, how you're sat in the car, the looks. I would never pay what people are asking for them now a days, but i'd have one in a heartbeat if it weren't for those insane prices. Can't wait to watch that video :) ..oh and: Absolutely agree. Even when watching, this is more fun than most simracing i see.
in my 20's i stage rallied a 1985 ford capri with 210bhp. its just a great way for learning weight transfer and slide it around on different surfaces
Initial D
Yay, More Touge content! I hope I get lucky and catch you on a Togue life server soon! Cheers
This video really shows you the thought they put into using the AE86 as the main car for Initial D
This was a really fun and educational video Jimmer.
I can relate 100%...my favourite car in Dirt Rally is the Alpina 110.
The sound, the skill needed to drive it fast is just awesome! (in VR I should add)
been playing controller my whole life, i only started using a steering wheel a couple of months ago. the slap of reality where i couldn't even drive anything above 300hp in a straight line was so infuriating. but when it puts me in a situation where i have to start learning the absolute basics with low hp cars (i use a honda s800. mad little cars, love it!) i have to say it sparked an even more intense desire to keep playing, keep practicing, keep learning how to feel the car through a steering wheel. first time i got podium in a 30 lap tsukuba race was more rewarding than anything else i've ever done. makes me super happy that all those hours spent learning the car actually gives me actual visible progress. i'll be moving myself to the mx5 cup cars this week, which will hopefully be a good bump in difficulty. super excited!
I love these Touge style videos. In GT5 my favourite thing to do was generate the longest, wiggliest course I could and lap it in lightly tuned turds. Hardmode was keeping it in the "correct" lane for RHD/LHD cars.
Akina is my absolute fave it's somewhere in an intermediate level imo. it's got sharp hairpins, chicanes, fast turns, and straightaways which makes it fun to race on.
I’m in Touge life 1 pretty often and I didn’t see you! It’s so addicting , those precious seconds. Would love to know your times on some of the cars, I’ve posted mine below!
Rx7 - 4:41
Supra - 4:51
R34 - 4:49
370z - 4:51
Gt86 - 4:58
Ae86 tuned - 4:45
I’m forgetting some lol
Wait. is touge life a different community than touge union?
@@ebincd2362 I believe they involved together not sure!
@@ebincd2362same community diff servers p sure
I prefer the one with the modded civic (ek9) with 277hp best ive got is 4:50
@@sfisosg7904 that’s good!!
Awesome edits, such a cool scene to see the view from a gran turismo cinematic shot for passes and taps.
Editor did a good job with this one, love the external shots
As an AE86 track-driving owner, and simracer (and a bit of dev too) since GPL days (1998!), I salute you for this vid, J! Understanding vehicle dynamics or the fun (and thrill) of driving isn't about the numbers and absolute performance, but about the experience you can enjoy and thrive on as a driver.
exactly why i race mx5s on assetto corsa any time theres a race online, the racing is incredible, and the car moves around a lot
Slower cars and a circuit sized to match will always be more fun to race with other people than super fast race cars! I used to do a lot of R/C racing where typically everything is crazy fast and crazy high grip. The most fun I had was finding a group where we deliberately ran slower cars and less grip on a track sized right for it. We did that for years and it never got boring.
1:30 i know it doesn't look like it, but those VHS clips you posted are pretty heavily modified ae86s for the time. suspensions setups is what everyone put their money into, low HP, but very stiff suspension, even if the height was too high.
Holy hell, the exterior camera shot at 9:09... It's straight out of the manga/anime! I didn't think anyone could actually make that happen, that's amazing!
I just love how late you can brake in the 86. You and a car with much more horsepower can go into a turn at the same speed and angle but the magic of the 86's NA engine will allow you to feather the brake and slow down much later than the 350-400 HP beasts that are commonly associated with touge racing. Such an amazing little machine.
i have a 5:10 in the stock 86 down akina, listening to you explain all techniques like shifting to 1st to shift weight and rotate car makes me think, when driving you never really think what you are doing through and you just kind of do it, like second nature i guess lol
hey jimmer.. i started sim racing because of ur videos like 3 years ago. sadly a year ago a had to sell my g29 to a friend of mine to pay off rent and food for my workers during the big rona pandemic. i actually cried while making decision to sell that wheel. but watching ur videos, seeing u from ur cabin to a decent house makes me wanna really save up money to buy a new wheel, might be a t300rs. progress kinda slow with me havin a kid recently, anyway wish me luck.
best of luck for you my friend! life's hard, but after storm there's sunshine
You're so right at the end there about that car being more about how you use it. It feels much more personal, more human in a way.
and this is why, in iracing, the mustang fr500s is my current favorite car to drive. Good for learning momentum driving, weight transfer, brake and throttle effects on turning, and throttle control. It is a car that really lets you feel how a car responds to your driving, and has just enough power that you cant plant it anywhere and be fine (though you can still be kinda lead footed). It's, easy to get it sideways and control it during the slide, and feels extremely to feel the improvements to your driving as you increase pace. It's really fun to drive no matter what
In the real world I started my car handling journey with an AE86 Corolla GT Coupe. Taught me everything I needed about car control, and respecting limits. So playful, do much fun. Today's cars don't allow people to learn about how cars react to inputs unless in the virtual world, and believe me losing the rear end at 70mph and controlling it with a car in the adjacent lane teaches a whole new level of understanding and respect.
I have sold my ae86 6 months ago after owning 15 years. It is great to learn car control. Now i have a gt86 or frs or 86 and you can do the same thing with the new confort features. A great car.
@@Diamotors, hello! Ive got a question. As a huge fan of this car. Were there any maintenance issues?
@@petrussian9324 are you talking about the ae86?
There is nothing special.
Just regular maintenance it is necessary. You have to be careful on rust.
@@Diamotors , i am just trying to get the money for one and trying to find out more info about the car, thank you for your reply!
@@petrussian9324 how much is it in your country?
I WAS THE BLACK SKYLINE FOLLOWING JIMMER
I was the jimmer getting followed by the black skyline fr fr
Love the respect to iconic twincam, the holy grail of Irish car scene 🇮🇪
I remember when i played NFS world i enjoyed the events with the slowest cars class the most. I used to play the slowest car from the slowest class but the strength of it was carrying speed through the corners and even though everyone passed me on the straights I would always gain back the position in and after the corner.
I can confirm. I used to race these normal street cars in SIM racing more often in my life than GT cars. Recently I got more into GT7 and I am still having a bit of touble with the GT cars sometimes/my opponents are way quicker. Once there is some Race with normal road cars I usually always gain a podium and getting way better qualifying times than most of the people in the lobbies.
JIMMER TOUGE IS ALWAYS FUN TO WATCH
This is why I always loved throwing Mini Coopers around rally stages in, well, every rally game ever. Less power = more power!
I just tried Touge for the first time with a car like this, with the Toyota AE86 and it was exactly what I needed, I got pretty much bored from high horsepower cars so this is the perfect solution
I literally started a series in this car today on Forza... such a fun car to drive. I have it at 125kw currently
You can take the man out of the shed, but you can never take the shed out of the man.
couldn't agree more on your sentiment around these cars vs. GT3+ types. GT4 cars are still pretty fun for the same reason.
Shoutout to editor chan, great editing!
Respect for keeping that black 34 damn. Wish i could drive like this.
the nosie of the 86 is like love to my ear i love that car with all my heart
"You don't need 1000BHP to have fun" Thank you, finally someone gets it, I've gotten crap for having a 3 valve with only a cold air intake power wise, but the suspension bushings were done for when I got it so all the money is in the suspension, 300HP in a planted car is some of the most fun I've had
Shitboxes are the best! I'm on my 3rd mx5 and there is nothing more rewarding than trouncing real cars in the twisties.
You gotta come find the BeamNG Togue players that do these exact runs competitively in BeamMP on BeamNG Standard tires, it's a incredible time, especially when the cars are setup well and everyone in the server can actually drive. Last thing I was doing was period correct shit tire rallying in BeamNG, was a very good time.
I've been doing touge routes in a little Daihatsu Mira and it's so much fun!
agreed I love driving older lower powers cars in sim racing instead of supercar tier stuff like GT3 and LMP stuff.
Thank you Jimmy so refreshing and i even learn something...no more stuck in gt3 , now having fun , thanks
Its nice to see Michael shedmacher doing well, keep it up jimmy we love you!
I'm new to this channel, that was thrilling. I was about half way through when I noticed there's a shot of his feet too.. Heel & toe action, nice!
I've been saying this for decades. The most fun you can have in a car is being close to its limit. As you said, having a car that is on a knife-edge is really hard and perhaps not as satisfying. And going a million kilometers per hours is probably going to end badly, especially in the real world. Driving cars like these have a wider gap between going close to the limit and going over it. In a sense they're easier, but also so much more satisfying, and at safer and legal speeds to boot.
its amazing this community is still thriving,, used to hang out on the touge servers like 7years ago! Love the content. Cant wait to see you real life touge! :D
This was the car I used to learn the Nordschleife in Assetto Corsa, I never used to understand the love for it beyond obvious Initial D references but if the real thing is even half as fun as the AC version I can totally get the appeal now.
It is as much fun in real life. I hav just sold it 6 months ago for a gt86 that is as much fun with stock tyres as a AE86.
It just kinda reminds of how I never really had more fun in iRacing than when I was racing the slowest cars. There's just a lot more forgiveness, so you don't spend every lap on tinderhooks, waiting for your line to be a millimeter off so you end up turning left into a righthander and ending your race...
That's why I like running old cars, there's so much character when you don't have all the down force and all the power.
Bought my first wheel, second day of using it and got a 5:41 in the nismo Nisan, I for sure have more pace, gonna aim for a 5:30 by the end of the week
Glad your back with the togue Jimmer. I just commented on one of you latest video about this, and now you've done it. Great content, keep up the good work. Cheers!
9:27 "See? I can pass you any time I want!"
280bhp 6min33s Nordschliefe. Bloody love it. Slow with massive aero too. 😂 That's my detuned Radical RXC. Rad vid dude. ❤
Here in the Nordic countries, the Volvo 240 is the car that can teach you how to drive like you talk about the AE86, if there is a naturally aspirated street version in the game, you should give it a go, though... generally games will have the 242 Turbo, or the Group A race car, rather than an old 244 or 245.
Yoooo he even got the Chevy Chevette in the beginning of the video, i loved it, it is my first car!
That's why i love riding my Honda Grom so much more than any other bike ive ridden. 9hp is a hoot to push to its limit.
Funny, I often do a few runs of the Akina downhill in the TU server, and more often than not in an r34. Not saying I was the one racing Jimmy, but there's a non-zero chance that it was me in that black r34.
Bro says hes gonna torture us but, your better than me on controller and ive been playing for almost 5 years, keep it up dude :D
Can't wait to watch the AE86 IRL vid then. Supra, GTR, AE86, Miata...
You're really getting that dream JDM garage.
If you were practicing with a stock ae86 thinking about initial D.... well... that ae86 was tuned (suspension etc ) by bunta, maybe not exactly fully stock, setting wise
I love that car and track combo. Generally I prefer to run the tuned verison of the ae86 but the stock one is also very fun.
I love touge for that reason it takes a lot more skill imo in terms of weight transfer and when to break
a black limited is a mega based choice for you to use, jimmer. cant wait to see what you got irl, and keep up these vids! love the cinematic shots and replays!
Love old cars on twisty real world roads. My favourite thing to do in sim racing is to just lap Targa Florio in the 60's mini in rFactor 2. It's puts me in my zen place. I will have to give togue a go though. Looks like a real hoot.
Glad you enjoy touge racing! This EXACTLY is the reason why I bought my sim rig. To fulfill my childhood weeb initial D dream 😂
"The 86 is a car that trains the driver." Fujiwara Bunta
Sorry you weren't feeling well. Glad you got over it
Jimmer, there's a port of this track for BeamNG... you know what to do!
Initial D
Its always fun driving a car that isn't big on power but big on personality, which is why a miata is a fun car in its own right. Imagine a 67 Mustang with some minor engine mods to push maybe 350-400 bhp with more attention given to brakes, suspension and tires. How would that fair on the Touge?
10:39 2 stock AE-86 same cars, same tyres.
OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!
Loved the battle with the black r34!
Im so glad you started making these videos, ive been in the togue lobbies having a blast
Personally i love playing beamng with underpowered cars with good handling and low weight, it feels so good when you carry heaps of momentum through the corners and manage to beat times that cars with double or triple the amount of horsepower get on the same course.
That black Skyline got stuck behind the world's widest AE86.
I know what you mean about the super-advanced, super-powerful, super-downforce-y cars with super-sticky tires and traction control/anti-lock brakes. It gets boring driving them. It's like playing a game with a big cheat code or in god mode--it feels like cheating and isn't as rewarding. You get to where you have more fun driving a '65 GT350 or a MkI or MkII GT40 on the 'Ring or Bathurst or un-chicaned Le Mans. Just row the gears, heel-and-toe, steer with the throttle, 4-wheel drift, all the old-school driving techniques. It _means_ more to eke out a great lap in one of those old-school cars where you have to _earn_ it, where the car doesn't do most of it for you.
Glad you're having fun
after calming down, thank you jimmer for racing me trapizoid i had no clue it was you lol
Jimmy we need more of this game
get the mini cooper mod, and i guarantee you will fall in love with FWD racing on the Akina track
This would be the perfect thing for me to get, now that i've got a h-patten shifter for my set up.
Excellent vidja Jammer and excellent editing Editor-chan
For me it’s the civic , MR2, CRX, and occasionally a Celica
In the movie and anime series the suspension as being fix for handling and drift
literal perfect timing jimmer. i started rewatching initial d again only yesterday!
Oh man, I gotta hop back on this track. I used to run sub 4:30 on the kunos Tuned 86... good times
the record is 4:35...
My dream car? A bucket list irl road? Some video Jimmer 🤘🏻
nice to see the touge again, gave you a follow for that reason back in the days