Ferrari incident at 10:35 is 100% intentional from #8. He made his intent clear when he tried to block the red car in the earlier scene. Also its Ferrari Challenge, that series is full of helmets.
i gotta disagree i think its as jimmy said, a lesser skilled driver the first clip was just netcode as jimmer said the 2nd is most likely due to not being aware of your car having a front, and trying to move into the slipstream and the third, is just braking too late and panicing and trying to slow down and instead hitting the other car if it was intentional, he couldve easily crashed out the red car way harder. if ur going to go the intentional route u dont give a crap about being subtle
@@Marpurrsa 1st incident was racing incident + small netcode 2nd incident I see what you mean, but they're under braking. Slipstream serves no purpose under braking. It's also not the optimal line. 3rd incident Just cause he slowed down doesn't mean his intent isn't to take out the #17. He could be trying to minimize the impact so he can continue on without destroying his car while also murdering #17. Bake a cake and eat it too type deal.
@@phantazy5716 It's hard to tell because of the camera angle, but I'm fairly certain that 2nd incident takes place under braking before the bus stop. If that's the case, following back in line doesn't make sense as #8 was already in the optimal line, on the outside. So to me, it looks as if it was a terrible attempt to pit #17 or at the very least murder him. If he was trying to fall back in line, he's a god damn moron because he is not putting his car in the best position for the next corner.
At 14:10, I'd suggest it was 75% racing incident, 25% 24 at fault.. I think what's happened is the 24 hit too much of the kerb and it unsettled the car which forced it to skip out wide a little bit.
It is a difficult one, so many people make wild lunges at that corner, with contact ensuing. This one was pretty clean by comparison. The green Mazda could have ceded the corner a little bit earlier, but tried to maintain his speed up the hill.
I'd say giving back the position would be enough in that case and watching out if he'd make contact with any car trying the same move for the rest of the race to issue a warning on dangerous driving
Yeah, it looks to me like a case of wrong place wrong time for the 29. The 24 is definitely at fault, but it’s not intentional or due to incompetence, just a small mistake that unfortunately cost the 29 a lot more.
I might put more fault at #24. He cant stay within track limits even after the contact, kinda tells that his attempt was somewhat doomed from the start at that speed.
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13:55 I think he genuinely lost it because the kerb unsettled the car, you can see his left side getting a bit of air there... depend on how the other car do I'd give a penalty from half to a second post race.
I completely disagree. At the speed he was doing he was always going to run wide and hit the other car. Having raced side by side at that corner a number of times, I always found lifting (if not braking) is absolutely necessary for the car on the inside to give the outside car sufficient space.
@@StevePhoenixi almost always lose if i’m on the inside on that corner, it’s impossible to keep the speed through the inside without hitting the other person, and if you do break the outside will always get more speed heading up to the corkscrew, it’s almost always better to leave the move to the last corner for that track.
The guy on the inside left no room so ultimately it's his fault but at the same time, there's no point in putting your car in a position where 9 times out of ten, you'll get punted off and then complaining that you were punted off. The guy on the inside was overtaking so you know how fast he's going and you know he's taking a tight line so it should be obvious he's not going to leave you space around a really tricky corner. If you're on the outside, it's your call if you want to back out and carry on or whether you want guaranteed contact.
3:20 Jimmer, you got this one very wrong. The Ferrari turned in for no reason, giving the Aston nowhere to go. You pointed out how the Aston moved about one meter to the left but you didn't mention the Ferrari swerving massively to the right.
I agree with that. Ferrari definitely moved more to the right than the Aston moved to the left. And even if the Aston didn't move left a bit, he wouldn't have had space to compensate for the Ferrari moving over
I believe the aston was in the wrong. The ferrari seems to be squeezing the aston while leaving a cars width, but the aston just doesn't turn with the kink and collects the other guy. Looks like a controller moment with the aston trying to tap steer, but doesn't keep his car close enough to the line
Yup i agree. The Ferrari was clearly trying to pinch the Aston which is aggressive but fair, but the other side of doing that is having the skill to actually keep it steady which he didnt have
Gotta love the ACC mazdas @ 13:14. This mindset is heavily involved in the e racing scene these days. I was on the inside so the corner is mine. There are two lanes, at least, on every straight and corner. You took the inside, until you are safely passed the vehicle, the inside lane is your lane. The outside is his.
The Ginetta at 17:41 has no business trying to get past on that straight, in all fairness. Like, I'm not ever expecting someone to try to send it that close to a barrier... the puma maintaining the racing line for my money has no blame to take there. As the person trying to overtake I'd breathe a sigh of relief for getting away with an ill-advised move and try again on a more reasonable corner, tbh.
Due to his clear intentions at 9:55 of trying to dump the red car, it makes whatever the move at 10:25 was inexcusable. Intentional or mistake is irrelevant on a crash that bad when you made it clear a lap earlier you wanted to take him out. It honesty makes it seem that the only reason he even touched the brake pedal was to give himself the defense of "Oh but I was braking"
15:30 I don't think you picked up on it, if it even makes much of a difference but the track direction moves slightly to the left, and the 8 was actually following it. Do you think that makes any difference?
18:23 considering there a slight corner I put the blame on the rear car. If that was a bit sharper corner you wouldn't put your nose in there on the racing line. Same principle applies here imo. Plus it really was just the very tip of the nose, the rear car's front axel was not even next to the front car's rear axel. Rear car had to yield that. Plus I'm pretty sure the front car expected you to take the outside line, since that's where you were. I doubt he even noticed you pull up so fast to the other side.
Yes, I totally agree there. Isn't this more about the kink to the left and then the question "what is going straight in that matter" ? As i see it, the biggest move is clearly on the 12 here. At first he follows the kink to the left somewhat, then the 10 goes inside (who did nothing wrong by that), then he 8 swerves back to the right, where he collects the 8. In my opinion the "gentle" pinching move of the 8 is only minor compared to the number 12's move. And even when he was going straight relative to his initial position on the road, I think that's not okay, considering there's a kink to the left. (extent that idea to a bent, would it still be right then ???) Thereby, the 12's pinching move is in a way constant and so becomes predictable; so it's probably not the smartest for the 12 to not give an inch !?
Watched it again and noticed a strange cut/jump (or something like zooming out) in the video at about 15:34, which is very strange and makes this a lot harder to judge. (I must say after that), the last little move is on the the 8, but I still think 12 did what I wrote before, so all in all I would maybe just judge this as a "racing incident" !?)
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20:40 It looks like the 11 gets a small netcode contact at the turn in point that kicks the rear out and causes him to turn in earlier that he meant to. Just looks like a racing incident to me.
6:55 That is a very intentional wreck. You can see him swerving in the direction of the guy to hit him. If it wasn't intentional, then he would've braked and tried yo do the turn.
18:25 but you can see the direction that the car ahead of you is going on. If he just continues forward (which he will, because it's not a segway), you can see the gap that the car behind is aiming for is going to get even smaller. I'm not sure how that would be the fault of the car ahead.
The clip at 15:54 you can see slightly that the course turns to the left and number 8 car goes with the turn and runs into number 12 which was just going straight
I think the black mazda at 4:00 just lost the rear while on the brakes. Causing the car to cut back across the track a bit while they were trying to save it.
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Tom and Jerry is a hot lapper. Once you put cars on the track they get confused because people don't let them have whatever line they want, usually the line the track guide told them to. They might be fast, but they can only drive on rails. As soon as they have to deal with traffic or taking the off line, they panic and wreck.
For real though. I don't think people realize that having the fastest lap is only half of what racing is. They should just stick to time attack if they don't want to learn racecraft
I think thats just inviting a total shit storm of toxic people. No natter what he says about the crashes or whos at fault, there will be war and chaos in the comments and its just not wotth it
15:57 it looks like the 12 car comes back to their right. its a right hander coming up so they should all be moving left anyway to enter the corner. no reason to be trying to pinch someone to the right side at that point. which the 12 car STARTS doing, but then comes back to the right.
that mazda wreck at the 14 minute mark, i think its an racing incedent because the #24 hit the curb on the inside, and just drifted wide because of that. Love your vids Jimmy.
For the one at 13:12 I definitely agree it was 24s fault but I would also suggest that the 29 was not going to end up ahead through that corner in almost any scenario so, regardless of what the 24 does, the best decision might have been not to fight it and live to fight another day. But maybe that's just because I don't have the skills to be ahead after that corner when on the outside lol.
21:00 #11 did turn in, but not intentionally, look at the angle the car comes in at, it's not the same direction the car is travelling in. He lost the rear on turn in and oversteered into the #3, you can even hear the tyre noise.
21:11, You can slightly see by the tiniest pixel, the 11 had a moment of Oversteer which made him make the correction that caused the contact. Racing incident for me. Unfortunate, was a 10/10 battle until then. But that can happen to almost anyone.
I actually think there was netcode contact initially 20:58 with the yellows front left with the Black rear right, that puts the Black f3 into a unloaded oversteer moment, which then causes the front axle to front axle contact. This one was a server connection issue unfortunately.
Yup, came here to say this. He could've opened up his corner more and could've kept it off the sausage, but he didn't and sent it anyway. He didn't purposefully go wide on exit, he was just out of control at that point.
2:26 I'm sorry but I completely disagree, the Aston Martin keeps their car smooth and the Ferrari moves abruptly twice when the car is alongside on a straight. Don't understand why it's hard to give enough room on a straight that is 100% flat in F1 cars. Aston comes tight to the white line but only because there's a Ferrari encroaching on its space. I blame this one on the Ferrari but in reality it's probably F1's poor netcode.
I have always wondered this in iRacing or Crew Chief. At 15:35, would number 8's spotter tell them that they are three wide or not? The number 12 knows that they are three wide. But since the white car is not up to the number 8's rear yet, is number 8 being told that they are two wide or three wide?
Mx5 at Laguna, the 24 does get the pass done cleanly, but while I agree he should have ensured he turned tighter on exit, the kerb and bump on the inside does appear to have pushed him a smidge wide? Just my thought. Still right judgement however, the topography of the corner does need to be accounted for in a pass!
The incident at 13:49 reminds me of a bollocking I got when I used to kart - I got shouted at for doing things like the guy on the outside did... I'd come back in after being punted off furious with the guy on the inside and I'd completely blame him. That doesn't matter though. Whilst it's the guy on the inside's fault that he didn't leave enough room which lead to contact, the guy on the outside had ample opportunity to avoid it. Once someone is up your inside at a tricky corner like that, the move is done. If you try and fight around the outside, you're going off 99 times out of 100. You can blame whoever you want, you can post videos on Sim Racing Stewards to make you feel better about it but you're out of the race and you didn't have to be. It'd be my top tip for sim racers starting out - stop worrying about whether the other driver is at fault or not and look at what you can do better. In this case, the guy on the outside had 2 options - get punted off or tuck in behind and remain in the race.
2:36 I would pretty much put that 100% on the Ferrari. It’s the Ferrari that has acres of space on their left and they simply don’t have to be squeezing like that halfway down a straight. The Aston is not initially coming left at all until the Ferrari makes contact, at which point the Aston drifts left by a few centimetres just to ensure the Ferrari doesn’t push them off track. The Ferrari then continues trying to squeeze for no reason and just ends up wrecking themselves. If the Ferrari just holds its line on the left this never happens and they can carry the fight on fairly into T3. Gonna finish this of with “idk tho” so no one can argue 👍💪
10:40 Yes this was intentional, yes he was braking, but the intention was probably to hit the guy in front hard enough to ruin his race without causing enough damage to his own car so he could carry on uneffected
Agree on everything apart from these three; 2:20 - Aston is going to naturally drift wide but it's the Ferrari who put them in that position. He has loads of room on the left and doesn't need the squeeze that tight. Ferrari is at fault. 13:20 - Number 24 as a right to space as they are along side. It's a high speed corner and the racing line means the inside car will drift wide. Number 29 lost the fight before the corner and therefore shouldn't be fighting on the outside. Number 29 should of just accepted it and backed out. 16:50 - Puma car is taking racing line and stays on the line at all times. Car behind is driving into a gap that will disappear and only has a slight nose along side and therefore has no right to the space. Car behind is at fault.
What I take from several of these cases is that as long as you don't back out of a corner when you're behind, the other person (who's in front) should go out of his way to give you space. It seems to me the person behind should brake (harder) if that's the case. It doesn't matter if the person in front just messed the corner before that up, you should still do a clean overtake and not just plant your car next to the person in front feeling entitled to space.
14:00 I think than may have been caused more by that curb. You can see the back end gets a little loose and he may have been trying to just keep himself on track as opposed to getting in front of the other Miata.
10:50 Not that experienced on said game, and totally inexperienced for said car class. How ever, as I have been a steward on multiple races in other games, that looks like attempt to hide the intentionality. I usually had the replay file where i could see the telemetry of the cars, and I occasionally saw "braking enough that the brake lights came on", and "braking properly, while also applying full throttle." This gives me that kind of vibe. but it also could be inexperience.
12:45 I'd say that's intentional. He didnt want to full on 'plow' him, or he'd never have hit the brakes, but he DID fully intend to 'punt' him... he just wanted to do it in a way that didnt take himself out of the race as well (such as like his attempted pit-maneuver earlier)
10:35 i dont think its intentional. But in the moment, you wont convince anyone it isnt intentional because of the prior history. I get hes a less skilled driver but you gotta be extra careful around guys you rough up on accident.
That wall punt at the ring was entirely the car behinds fault! The replay shows the tail lights in front of the bonnet, meaning he was not along side and had no right to the corner. Even the freeze frame shows the gap is closing because of the apex, the car in front was always going for that and as you've mentioned in other videos, throwing a bumper down the inside of an apex isn't alongside. The driver has an objective to race his line, the best he can. The person overtaking has a responsibility to do it safely with the line that they choose. Drivers under pressure, can choose to defend or run their Normal lines, its not the overtaking car to decide what they choose
13:39 I’m so glad that I’m not the only one that thinks this. If the outside driver is at least 1/4 of the way alongside they should have a right to the track. Regardless of which side of the line they are on.
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Ferrari incident at 10:35 is 100% intentional from #8. He made his intent clear when he tried to block the red car in the earlier scene.
Also its Ferrari Challenge, that series is full of helmets.
i gotta disagree
i think its as jimmy said, a lesser skilled driver
the first clip was just netcode as jimmer said
the 2nd is most likely due to not being aware of your car having a front, and trying to move into the slipstream
and the third, is just braking too late and panicing and trying to slow down and instead hitting the other car
if it was intentional, he couldve easily crashed out the red car way harder. if ur going to go the intentional route u dont give a crap about being subtle
I truly think the number 8 just sucks.
@@Marpurrsa 1st incident was racing incident + small netcode
2nd incident I see what you mean, but they're under braking. Slipstream serves no purpose under braking. It's also not the optimal line.
3rd incident Just cause he slowed down doesn't mean his intent isn't to take out the #17. He could be trying to minimize the impact so he can continue on without destroying his car while also murdering #17. Bake a cake and eat it too type deal.
I think the second clip he is just trying to get behind the guy so they don’t lose much time but could be wrong
@@phantazy5716 It's hard to tell because of the camera angle, but I'm fairly certain that 2nd incident takes place under braking before the bus stop. If that's the case, following back in line doesn't make sense as #8 was already in the optimal line, on the outside. So to me, it looks as if it was a terrible attempt to pit #17 or at the very least murder him. If he was trying to fall back in line, he's a god damn moron because he is not putting his car in the best position for the next corner.
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Honestly, these videos are great for making me realize I'm nowhere near as bad at race craft as I think I am.
At 14:10, I'd suggest it was 75% racing incident, 25% 24 at fault.. I think what's happened is the 24 hit too much of the kerb and it unsettled the car which forced it to skip out wide a little bit.
It's a difficult one. Although I'd say that looking at the line, it's reasonable to suggest contact would have still been made imo.
It is a difficult one, so many people make wild lunges at that corner, with contact ensuing. This one was pretty clean by comparison. The green Mazda could have ceded the corner a little bit earlier, but tried to maintain his speed up the hill.
I'd say giving back the position would be enough in that case and watching out if he'd make contact with any car trying the same move for the rest of the race to issue a warning on dangerous driving
Yeah, it looks to me like a case of wrong place wrong time for the 29. The 24 is definitely at fault, but it’s not intentional or due to incompetence, just a small mistake that unfortunately cost the 29 a lot more.
I might put more fault at #24. He cant stay within track limits even after the contact, kinda tells that his attempt was somewhat doomed from the start at that speed.
I'm not sure the black Mazda at 13:40 was going to keep it on the track even if he hadn't had four extra wheels to help make the corner.
Yeah it absolutely hammered that inside kerb which kicked the car wide
I was just about to comment the same.
5:38 - Racing legend Luke Westaway (from outside xtra) out there making a name for himself in the race chat, I see. Good stuff 😄
Holy crap, I had to rewatch that but you're right. Looks like Mike has really gotten him hooked now.
Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Sometimes it is malice, but I prefer to assume they just messed up.
13:55 I think he genuinely lost it because the kerb unsettled the car, you can see his left side getting a bit of air there... depend on how the other car do I'd give a penalty from half to a second post race.
I completely disagree. At the speed he was doing he was always going to run wide and hit the other car. Having raced side by side at that corner a number of times, I always found lifting (if not braking) is absolutely necessary for the car on the inside to give the outside car sufficient space.
@@StevePhoenixi almost always lose if i’m on the inside on that corner, it’s impossible to keep the speed through the inside without hitting the other person, and if you do break the outside will always get more speed heading up to the corkscrew, it’s almost always better to leave the move to the last corner for that track.
I’d have to agree. He did send it quite hard, but that kerb sent him well wide. He was off line tho, so he could have been a bit more careful.
The guy on the inside left no room so ultimately it's his fault but at the same time, there's no point in putting your car in a position where 9 times out of ten, you'll get punted off and then complaining that you were punted off. The guy on the inside was overtaking so you know how fast he's going and you know he's taking a tight line so it should be obvious he's not going to leave you space around a really tricky corner. If you're on the outside, it's your call if you want to back out and carry on or whether you want guaranteed contact.
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3:20 Jimmer, you got this one very wrong. The Ferrari turned in for no reason, giving the Aston nowhere to go. You pointed out how the Aston moved about one meter to the left but you didn't mention the Ferrari swerving massively to the right.
I agree with that. Ferrari definitely moved more to the right than the Aston moved to the left. And even if the Aston didn't move left a bit, he wouldn't have had space to compensate for the Ferrari moving over
I believe the aston was in the wrong. The ferrari seems to be squeezing the aston while leaving a cars width, but the aston just doesn't turn with the kink and collects the other guy. Looks like a controller moment with the aston trying to tap steer, but doesn't keep his car close enough to the line
Yup i agree. The Ferrari was clearly trying to pinch the Aston which is aggressive but fair, but the other side of doing that is having the skill to actually keep it steady which he didnt have
@@mrstrider8847 All the time you have to leave a the space! ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A THE SPACE!
They pinched each other at the wrong time. how’s that not a racing incident?
Can we appreciate the phenomenal editing at 12:32 where the "Oh no" gets cut off as Jimmy pauses? But it's not even in the original clip. Love it.
Honestly the individual judgments/punishments put this video on another level! Please keep that bit and this series going!
Gotta love the ACC mazdas @ 13:14. This mindset is heavily involved in the e racing scene these days. I was on the inside so the corner is mine. There are two lanes, at least, on every straight and corner. You took the inside, until you are safely passed the vehicle, the inside lane is your lane. The outside is his.
The Ginetta at 17:41 has no business trying to get past on that straight, in all fairness. Like, I'm not ever expecting someone to try to send it that close to a barrier... the puma maintaining the racing line for my money has no blame to take there. As the person trying to overtake I'd breathe a sigh of relief for getting away with an ill-advised move and try again on a more reasonable corner, tbh.
Due to his clear intentions at 9:55 of trying to dump the red car, it makes whatever the move at 10:25 was inexcusable. Intentional or mistake is irrelevant on a crash that bad when you made it clear a lap earlier you wanted to take him out. It honesty makes it seem that the only reason he even touched the brake pedal was to give himself the defense of "Oh but I was braking"
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15:30 I don't think you picked up on it, if it even makes much of a difference but the track direction moves slightly to the left, and the 8 was actually following it. Do you think that makes any difference?
Exactly what I noticed, I think 8 was just following the track
the chungus gap to his right says otherwise. you wanna go side by side? better be ready to turn on the different line
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18:23 considering there a slight corner I put the blame on the rear car. If that was a bit sharper corner you wouldn't put your nose in there on the racing line. Same principle applies here imo. Plus it really was just the very tip of the nose, the rear car's front axel was not even next to the front car's rear axel. Rear car had to yield that. Plus I'm pretty sure the front car expected you to take the outside line, since that's where you were. I doubt he even noticed you pull up so fast to the other side.
Yes, I totally agree there. Isn't this more about the kink to the left and then the question "what is going straight in that matter" ?
As i see it, the biggest move is clearly on the 12 here. At first he follows the kink to the left somewhat, then the 10 goes inside (who did nothing wrong by that), then he 8 swerves back to the right, where he collects the 8. In my opinion the "gentle" pinching move of the 8 is only minor compared to the number 12's move. And even when he was going straight relative to his initial position on the road, I think that's not okay, considering there's a kink to the left. (extent that idea to a bent, would it still be right then ???)
Thereby, the 12's pinching move is in a way constant and so becomes predictable; so it's probably not the smartest for the 12 to not give an inch !?
Watched it again and noticed a strange cut/jump (or something like zooming out) in the video at about 15:34, which is very strange and makes this a lot harder to judge. (I must say after that), the last little move is on the the 8, but I still think 12 did what I wrote before, so all in all I would maybe just judge this as a "racing incident" !?)
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20:40 It looks like the 11 gets a small netcode contact at the turn in point that kicks the rear out and causes him to turn in earlier that he meant to. Just looks like a racing incident to me.
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That is a very intentional wreck. You can see him swerving in the direction of the guy to hit him. If it wasn't intentional, then he would've braked and tried yo do the turn.
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18:25 but you can see the direction that the car ahead of you is going on. If he just continues forward (which he will, because it's not a segway), you can see the gap that the car behind is aiming for is going to get even smaller. I'm not sure how that would be the fault of the car ahead.
The clip at 15:54 you can see slightly that the course turns to the left and number 8 car goes with the turn and runs into number 12 which was just going straight
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I think the black mazda at 4:00 just lost the rear while on the brakes. Causing the car to cut back across the track a bit while they were trying to save it.
Some of these incidents are getting interesting to say the least, keep doing these Jimmy it gives people a unique opportunity to improve themselves as drivers 👍 ❤
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I was the number 3 car at 20:40. Thanks for your insight on the incident Jimmy!
I agree I think the 11 is at fault but it does almost look like there was some netcode between you two that send his car sideways and down into you
Tom and Jerry is a hot lapper. Once you put cars on the track they get confused because people don't let them have whatever line they want, usually the line the track guide told them to. They might be fast, but they can only drive on rails. As soon as they have to deal with traffic or taking the off line, they panic and wreck.
For real though. I don't think people realize that having the fastest lap is only half of what racing is. They should just stick to time attack if they don't want to learn racecraft
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I think thats just inviting a total shit storm of toxic people. No natter what he says about the crashes or whos at fault, there will be war and chaos in the comments and its just not wotth it
15:57 it looks like the 12 car comes back to their right. its a right hander coming up so they should all be moving left anyway to enter the corner. no reason to be trying to pinch someone to the right side at that point. which the 12 car STARTS doing, but then comes back to the right.
that mazda wreck at the 14 minute mark, i think its an racing incedent because the #24 hit the curb on the inside, and just drifted wide because of that.
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For the one at 13:12 I definitely agree it was 24s fault but I would also suggest that the 29 was not going to end up ahead through that corner in almost any scenario so, regardless of what the 24 does, the best decision might have been not to fight it and live to fight another day.
But maybe that's just because I don't have the skills to be ahead after that corner when on the outside lol.
14:05 The #24 didn't open the steering, it just went over the curb, got thrown into the air and was unable to turn at that point
9:21 “ really is this the move you’re talking about?” “ nope”
12:50 thats why Silverstone 2021 was a racing incident.
14:00 I think the 24 just lost control when he jumped the kerb in order to make the corner.
I really like this series, as I have no clue whatsoever about racing rules and you explain so well and thoughtfull! Thanks Jimmer!
21:00 #11 did turn in, but not intentionally, look at the angle the car comes in at, it's not the same direction the car is travelling in. He lost the rear on turn in and oversteered into the #3, you can even hear the tyre noise.
i really love these videos, its super interesting to see how i view crashes and where those views do/dont align with jimmys
I like these videos. You have quite a fair and well argumented point of view on the incidents
gah daam, cute editor did an insane job on the intro. much love
21:11, You can slightly see by the tiniest pixel, the 11 had a moment of Oversteer which made him make the correction that caused the contact. Racing incident for me. Unfortunate, was a 10/10 battle until then. But that can happen to almost anyone.
I actually think there was netcode contact initially 20:58 with the yellows front left with the Black rear right, that puts the Black f3 into a unloaded oversteer moment, which then causes the front axle to front axle contact.
This one was a server connection issue unfortunately.
20:18 Literally swinging a knob, hahaha
Gaaaawd. I'm a childish 35Y.O....
9:20 "what an idiot, closing the door from the outside"
"its what they do on the formula 1 on tv" quote to live by if you ever get pulled but a police officer
This series needs to be weekly
14:01 No 24 open the steering. He hit the sausage causing him to go wide.
Yup, came here to say this. He could've opened up his corner more and could've kept it off the sausage, but he didn't and sent it anyway. He didn't purposefully go wide on exit, he was just out of control at that point.
2:26 I'm sorry but I completely disagree, the Aston Martin keeps their car smooth and the Ferrari moves abruptly twice when the car is alongside on a straight. Don't understand why it's hard to give enough room on a straight that is 100% flat in F1 cars.
Aston comes tight to the white line but only because there's a Ferrari encroaching on its space.
I blame this one on the Ferrari but in reality it's probably F1's poor netcode.
I have always wondered this in iRacing or Crew Chief. At 15:35, would number 8's spotter tell them that they are three wide or not? The number 12 knows that they are three wide. But since the white car is not up to the number 8's rear yet, is number 8 being told that they are two wide or three wide?
Mx5 at Laguna, the 24 does get the pass done cleanly, but while I agree he should have ensured he turned tighter on exit, the kerb and bump on the inside does appear to have pushed him a smidge wide? Just my thought. Still right judgement however, the topography of the corner does need to be accounted for in a pass!
50 years of Monza T1 is the worst imaginable punishment by far
Editor I salute you for the Simpsons Hit&Run cell booth sample in the beginning of the video
Loving the Simpsons Hit And Run phone box background music at the start
1:00 Both drivers exhibited hilarious incompetence there.
The Clip from 21:40. It seems like there was some Bad Networking since it locked like the back of the 11 got shoved abit
The incident at 13:49 reminds me of a bollocking I got when I used to kart - I got shouted at for doing things like the guy on the outside did... I'd come back in after being punted off furious with the guy on the inside and I'd completely blame him. That doesn't matter though. Whilst it's the guy on the inside's fault that he didn't leave enough room which lead to contact, the guy on the outside had ample opportunity to avoid it. Once someone is up your inside at a tricky corner like that, the move is done. If you try and fight around the outside, you're going off 99 times out of 100. You can blame whoever you want, you can post videos on Sim Racing Stewards to make you feel better about it but you're out of the race and you didn't have to be.
It'd be my top tip for sim racers starting out - stop worrying about whether the other driver is at fault or not and look at what you can do better. In this case, the guy on the outside had 2 options - get punted off or tuck in behind and remain in the race.
2:36 I would pretty much put that 100% on the Ferrari. It’s the Ferrari that has acres of space on their left and they simply don’t have to be squeezing like that halfway down a straight. The Aston is not initially coming left at all until the Ferrari makes contact, at which point the Aston drifts left by a few centimetres just to ensure the Ferrari doesn’t push them off track. The Ferrari then continues trying to squeeze for no reason and just ends up wrecking themselves. If the Ferrari just holds its line on the left this never happens and they can carry the fight on fairly into T3.
Gonna finish this of with “idk tho” so no one can argue 👍💪
these are the best vids u make i love watching u analyze the crashes
10:40 Yes this was intentional, yes he was braking, but the intention was probably to hit the guy in front hard enough to ruin his race without causing enough damage to his own car so he could carry on uneffected
Love this series Jimmer
2:55 100% on the Ferrari. You don't follow the curvature of the track up to Turn 3 at Austria; the racing line naturally stays straight.
Forever continue this series plz🔥
3:20 track goes to the right, Aston didnt move, Ferrari turned quite drastically to the right. This is on the Ferrari 100%
Agree on everything apart from these three;
2:20 - Aston is going to naturally drift wide but it's the Ferrari who put them in that position. He has loads of room on the left and doesn't need the squeeze that tight. Ferrari is at fault.
13:20 - Number 24 as a right to space as they are along side. It's a high speed corner and the racing line means the inside car will drift wide. Number 29 lost the fight before the corner and therefore shouldn't be fighting on the outside. Number 29 should of just accepted it and backed out.
16:50 - Puma car is taking racing line and stays on the line at all times. Car behind is driving into a gap that will disappear and only has a slight nose along side and therefore has no right to the space. Car behind is at fault.
"I sentence you to 50 years Monza t-1"
come on jimmy no need to be that cruel
What I take from several of these cases is that as long as you don't back out of a corner when you're behind, the other person (who's in front) should go out of his way to give you space. It seems to me the person behind should brake (harder) if that's the case. It doesn't matter if the person in front just messed the corner before that up, you should still do a clean overtake and not just plant your car next to the person in front feeling entitled to space.
That defensive move at the end by the Puma is the Pruett Weave. Scott Pruett was an amazing tactician.
Good stuff as always Jimmy. Your insight is valued. The discussions and learning that comes from these videos is important to the community
Love Judge Jimmy's judgements.... many and varied... but appropriate and reasoned
"That's just such a bone-headed move, you dork."
14:00 I think than may have been caused more by that curb. You can see the back end gets a little loose and he may have been trying to just keep himself on track as opposed to getting in front of the other Miata.
22:09 as a FH5 player I can confirm that's FH5 online races every day
10:50 Not that experienced on said game, and totally inexperienced for said car class.
How ever, as I have been a steward on multiple races in other games, that looks like attempt to hide the intentionality.
I usually had the replay file where i could see the telemetry of the cars, and I occasionally saw "braking enough that the brake lights came on", and "braking properly, while also applying full throttle."
This gives me that kind of vibe. but it also could be inexperience.
ah jimmer we love this series. also miss you taking something ridiculous around the green hell n saying hi to rebel tree
That 13:55 incident was caused by the sausage kerb and not them opening the steering. I think you gotta have another look at that one jimmer
At 17:50, you can’t just put your front wheel somewhere near someone’s rear and expect them to be aware/yield.
i mean you can, its not gonna turn out good for you but you can
12:45 I'd say that's intentional. He didnt want to full on 'plow' him, or he'd never have hit the brakes, but he DID fully intend to 'punt' him... he just wanted to do it in a way that didnt take himself out of the race as well (such as like his attempted pit-maneuver earlier)
Glad I didn't miss top right camera at 0:19
10:35 i dont think its intentional. But in the moment, you wont convince anyone it isnt intentional because of the prior history. I get hes a less skilled driver but you gotta be extra careful around guys you rough up on accident.
The #24 at Laguna Seca hit the sausage curb which launched it into the POV car. At 13:40
Never expected a EmpLemon reference here
When? I am blindeth
13:40 classic max verstappen move from number 24
That wall punt at the ring was entirely the car behinds fault! The replay shows the tail lights in front of the bonnet, meaning he was not along side and had no right to the corner. Even the freeze frame shows the gap is closing because of the apex, the car in front was always going for that and as you've mentioned in other videos, throwing a bumper down the inside of an apex isn't alongside.
The driver has an objective to race his line, the best he can. The person overtaking has a responsibility to do it safely with the line that they choose.
Drivers under pressure, can choose to defend or run their Normal lines, its not the overtaking car to decide what they choose
13:39 I’m so glad that I’m not the only one that thinks this. If the outside driver is at least 1/4 of the way alongside they should have a right to the track. Regardless of which side of the line they are on.
The #10 at 15:42 😂