What the INSIDES of your 6.7 Powerstroke looks like on Drugs - How do you deal with this?? SMH
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Carbon build up in intakes, EGR clogging, black nasty in your engine. These are some of the things that you should be concerned about when you are maintaining your Ford 6.7 Powerstroke. Family, listen up, this is going to happen, if you clean it...its just going to happen again. As long as you continue that perfect storm in that lower intake manifold.....well here we are. What are all you doing to help combat carbon build up in your 6.7 Ford diesel? Let me know below friends & tell me what you all think! Remember to LIKE - COMMENT - SUB - SHARE
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To avoid this issue I, like many others, did something not supposed to. 😬
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Just eliminated my CCV after replacing it twice, installed the SPE delete and no more oil in the intake tubes or cooler, and my power and milage has improved especially when hauling my trailer, definitely recommend the Hot shot fuel treatment
Best ,clearest ,informative to the point videos for the Powerstroke on the internet. Trust me, I've looked at crap loads. Thanks for all you do buddy!
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I’ve been using Archoil fuel and oil additives in my 6.7. I used them in my 6.0 as well. Has helped me achieve fewer regens and a lower soot concentration in my DPF.
The EGR utilizes a sort of fixed AFR map based on various parameters to know when the engine is going to produce sooty air. I don’t remember the exact AFR value but I believe it was around 13.5 or something when smoke would be produced. The EGR closes when the truck accelerates with higher load (towing). The response then is for the SCR doser to increase flow to keep NOx at a particular threshold. With EGR closed, you will go approximately 2000-3000 miles before needing DEF as the SCR and DOC takes the brunt of the NOx reduction. I’m not saying you can simply remove or block the system but there are certain scalable parameters that make the EGR system stay closed longer. This is why hard working trucks stay clean longer.
Also, EGR is closed during regen. I’ve got tons of data logs to back this.
Can you daily drive any 6.7 diesel? Sure. Are their consequences long term by not working it hard or leaning on it more daily? Absolutely. Will this gum up the upper, lower and intake manifold/valve covers along with the intake valves? 💯 yes.
The video above is clear evidence of this exact situation I’ve mentioned. Either work the truck hard or this will unfortunately happen.
I apologize, but I cannot agree with most of your statements. Egr has nothing to do with soot, it's the first step in reducing Nox emissions. First implemented on diesel engines in 2003. the DOC and DPF came into play in 2007 and it's job is to simply deal with soot emissions! If its smoking, it's broken they say. 2010 year came with more stringent laws on Nox emissions and the SCR system with DEF fluid cleans up Nox further, outside the engine. I could rattle on about the science of it how the urea reacts with the Amox in the bricks and the chemistry of the transformation of Nox to hydrocarbon and H2o happens, but that would bore you. Im just a Cummins, Hino, Mack, and international certified tech for their engines so take me with salt if you will. Fuel efficient trucks stay cleaner longer..... because they burn less fuel.
@@michaelcrowl9924 egr is the only way soot can get into the intake tract sir. Oily soot in the intact tract is a combination of egr activity and crankcase vapors. I picked up a 2018 rollover a couple weeks ago that was deleted and had an earlier ccv delete, took it apart, extremely clean. Automotive is not my discipline but I am an engineer, I fully understand the emissions system and its functions.
It’s a hard balance having clean air in the world and preventing this type of stuff from happening. It’s definitely come a LONG WAY and is a lot better than in the past but is NOT perfect. I agree with you that most diesel trucks with high miles are ran hard and worked. A lot of people that buy these to just say they drive a diesel end up with a lot of issues.
Yepp
for the most part happy owner of 2012 6.7. During core change, broken 8mm bolt in manifold,(replaced both manifolds since i was in there already anyway) i cleaned core and lower intake with purple power in a 5 gallon bucket. Worked well. ( submerge =>>rinse about 3 or 4 times) Core replacement every 60k miles. Ive done it now 4 times. once by dealer under warranty , 3x myself. Great truck, STRONG. Expensive to own but worth it so far.
Gotta love the good ole EGR!
I will tell you how I resolved my build up without telling you! CCV reroute and a weightloss program.
Thanks for the couple of videos on the lower intake and throttle body having issues from carbon build up. I decided to take a look. 2019, 126 thousand miles. Well it was about 90 percent blocked. Unbelievable. I'm not sure how this thing ran. The sensor there was completely covered. The MAP sensor was completely covered and blocked. I did the CVV reroute. I may have also done some other modifications to help with all this. The truck seems to run much stronger.
The more I watch your videos the more I realize that I need to move on from my 6.7. All of the potential maintenance issues seems unreal, and I don't want to get stuck with all of the problems. I have a stock 2019, F250.
EGR is on every vehicle from gas to diesel as a government mandated system to meet emissions requirements. CCV is also mandated by law. There are unfortunately negatives to everything. The real question is, how long until those systems become problematic and what the costs will be for long term ownership. Best thing you can do. Maintenance, maintenance and maintenance. Keep up with CCV box replacement intervals. Ford doesn’t list any for the non-serviceable versions but rule of thumb is about every 60k-80k miles to keep the system as efficient as possible. The other thing is using the most up to date software. The leaner and cleaner the engine can run, the better.
The truck above is a 15-15 6.7 and likely an F-250 unless the CCV TSB/ESP was performed. The fueling and air management is different on the 17-19 trucks. Similar externally but not the same software.
Diesel requires more maintenance. Period. That's why I have a 6.8 2v. Cheap guy
@@D4x4Bronc for the most part, yes.
what the masses don't realize is, if your not towing heavy loads day in and out, you don't need the diesel engine! 6.2 baby!
@@vais3 most gas engine got away from egr. with variable valve timing and much tighter fuel control, we don't need to run exhaust gas into the cylinders to reduce Nox emissions anymore......... Everyone did know that this is all about Nox emissions right?? if we can keep the combustion temps down we also keep nox emissions down. On another note spraying def in the exhaust makes rainbows and unicorns come out the tail pipe
Enjoy the education, I don’t know a whole lot about diesels a little bit though. I appreciate you going through the mechanics from time to time.
I take care of 30 6.7l powerstrokes. I tell my guys to drive the trucks hard. Trust me the emissions love it. The guys that baby the trucks I have to manual regen every so often. They will last with good maintenance.
Wish they could go the doc/scr only route like some companies do. But, everyone would complain about using more def. Personally, I'd be fine using more def if it ment getting rid of the egr and dpf. Talking to some oil test guys, the scr/doc only engines have oil just as clean as deleted engines.
I take mine off every 60,000 miles and take to the shop and put in our engine wash cabinet 30 minutes at 250 deg cleaner then when it was cast.
Im feeling like when my 6.7 starts having emissions parts problems, im just going to take them off instead of replace them.
I removed entire emissions system and upgraded to a 2015 turbo then installed new piping kit. Better efficiency and less egt
When I replaced my turbo I discovered this same funk buildup on the lower and upper intake... Since I had to remove both I hit them with a couple cans of brake cleaner and a brush followed that up with a thorough rinse from my hose and set them aside to completely dry out... That was 1-1/2 years ago, last month I installed the S&S Disaster Prevention Kit so once again I removed both intakes and it was nice to see there was very little buildup of this funk but I did clean them both anyway... I haven't replaced the CCV to the lower intake tube either time I removed it but I do inspect it before reconnecting it to the lower intake...
There are ways to remedy this problem. My pipes are as clean as the day they were installed.
My 2015 is super clean. On the lower intake but I run hotshot secret every tank and I drive it hard. But I have 141k now and it only has 400 idle hours.
I install the MishiMoto catch can on my 2018.
It crazy the amount of oil being dumped back into the system
BG products has a induction service that cleans it with chemicals while running. I used to work at a shop that did them and since have purchased the system for my current employers fleet of F550's. The only issue is the bolts breaking on the EGR tube exhaust manifold side. Then I use the promax drill guide and thread insert to solve that issue.
The back of the valves are covered with it also thanks EPA
valves are usually pretty clean on the intake side, they do get alot of heat and the stem is pretty long too so soot tends to ash and not build up. I rebuild wrecked trucks and engines, so I see it all the time.
Just removed my lower intake and throttlebody and cleaned them both
I tore into mine recently. 2012 with only 127,000 and I’ve maintained the heck out of it. My cooler core was changed at 114,000. My manifolds were really really clean. I was surprised.
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@@ericyoungs9894 no I’m in California you’ll go to jail. 😂
We have a 2016 6.7 cab and chassis at work, it does get worked pretty good, it's almost at 40,000kms though so she's still a baby lol
Let's go back a little...my '93 7.3 IDI non turbo was rated 185hp w/338lbs. Of torque...'06 6.0 was rated 325hp w/560lbs. Of torque...'18 6.7 is rated 450hp w/925 lbs of torque...as you can see each evolution the HP & torque increased with more anti-pollution equipment...this allows us to tow & haul more... need to do more maintenance so be it...like I said be for love my super duty🤗🤗🤗😍😍😍
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Yeah I want to delete mine so bad, but the kits are gettin harder to find thanks to the EPA fining the companies selling them millions of dollars a lot of places that weren’t fined out of business quit selling them.
ARod!!! 👍👍 I'm always super appreciative of your videos and how thoroughly you explain and detail everything. I love how you are always stressing the need for these trucks to work and get hot. 🙃 Run'um don't baby them.
Question: if you/we scrap that carbon down, what are you doing with it? Sucking it out with a shop vac? Or, letting it blow through the motor?
Lil air vacuum
Thanks for sharing ARod
What are your thoughts on the FASS EGR filter? Any plans to install and test?
I'd pass on fass. No, no plans whatsoever
Mine is tuned to run clean. Makes me think about changing the part to help with those moist vapors.
You brought that up in your CCV box video, this looks like another reason to remove.
Just had to replace the boost sensor in the upper intake. Was packed full of carbon, and reading high. Trying to clean it, finished it off...
Once the Map sensor gets packed full of carbon, they should be replaced not cleaned. By then they are damaged anyways.
I fixed mine permanently when the truck had 75 miles on it.
I use a splash of powerstroke formula fuel additive on every tank .. knock on wood, I’ve never had an issue .
What fuel add is good for 6.7, great videos
Archoil! Use our code on their site "PTT"
Also run them in tow/haul with the exhaust brake on all the time especially in town driving.
How does running the exhaust brake help?
6.7 magic
Have u made a video on how to check ur trans oil level ? I have a 2020 power stroke.
Sooon
Took mine off and filled the upper and lower intake full of oven cleaner and pressure washed them. Very messy.
Yuuccky
Cab / Chassis (our fleet)...idle, idle, idle...it's the silent killer. ohhhhhhhhhhhhh well!!!
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@Edward….couldn’t agree more…my boss just had me order the BD diesel hi idle kit for his two 6.7’s I take care of after hearing it on mine and asking questions why Hi idle is better. Low RPM idle for extended periods=early decay of your diesel
Great video man! How often do you recommend changing the CCV box out? (Assuming it's the updated disposable one that does not have a serviceable filter)
Wouldn't mind knowing this as well. 👍
Second
Check out my CCV video i did
Personally speaking, I swap the non-serviceable CCV boxes every 60k-80k miles. They can be swapped in about 30 minutes with some basic hand tools and a little knowledge. Use ARods CCV vid for guidance.
I want to say the CCV box was about 75 bucks.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you sir!
When you take the upper plastic off, you have those 2 small round holes flanking the main squared inlet hole. What are those 2 smaller holes for and where do they go?
I seen H&S aluminum replacement top manifold thats supposedly stock emissions legal replacement for the cheapo plastic upper, but they dont have those 2 smaller holes... does something block those openings?
Lower intake
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so with the H&S aluminum upper, does those get blocked off or remain open? Hard to tell by the very few pics online.
Should the CCV box be changed out every 70,000 miles ? And run a good fuel additive?
Id agree
So then my question becomes wouldn’t a delete of the CCV make sense? This is an issue with my turbocharged car as well, at lease the oil and dirty air during the recirculating back into the intel and in this case the use of an AOS helps address the problem either through a catch can or a system that dumps it into the case. Is there something like this for the 6.7, especially tue 17 to 19 models that have that stupid filter?
If no one else has asked...why do the cab,chassis models have more buildup?
You mentioned a fuel additive that might help prevent this build up…. Any recommendations? Brand new 2022 trying to keep up on it…
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Where’s your shop out of? Love the vid!
Detroit
Check out deseil force it can clean the system with taking it apart
Curious if more or ( less ) carbon is produced from bio-blended fuels vs straight ULSD.
In Alaska we never had any Bio-diesel.
By product of burning any fossil fuel
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I get that, different outcomes though ?
A-Rod where is your shop here in Michigan and how do I go about getting an appointment?
Email me!!!!
Can I get your email address. I'm here in Michigan and would like your assistance with my 2019 F 350 I purchased some running lights I but over the running boards. That function as amber running lights, turn signals and curiosity lights. Can't figure out how to wire them.
In the description
I vent the ccv under the truck, and typically have a decent sized load behind me so the truck is working. I have to pull my upper intake off again soon and am interested in seeing what the lower intake looks like.
What does it look like with post SCR EGR?
What is your additive of choice? There are so many choices.
Hotshots or Amsoil!!!
What fuel additive do you recommend?
I’m running an SPE 170 degree thermostat on my 6.7 and after watching this I’m wondering if I’m harming my engine by running at lower temperatures across the board? Typically I’m seeing 167 ECT 174 EOT and 172 Trans temp. I ordered the CCV delete kit from SPE and I’m waiting on it to come in.
.......................good luck with that. 4th word about ruined it. Now i have no comment
What fuel additive do you recommend for the 67 power stroke I live in Denver Colorado
Hotshot, use our code PTT & save
A good emissions intact fix for this is meth injection. Plus it adds power and is completely safe for the DEF system as well.
Hey AROD what kind of addictive do you use .
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I did the same thing this weekend. Took off the lower and upper intakes and I have a photo to show how bad the throttle body was almost blocked. I did the same thing, soaked the lower intake in all sorts of hot degreasers, overnight then oven cleaner. The upper intake was just as bad and took hours cleaning. Both took a case of brake cleaner, one can of oven cleaner, several towels, plastic putty knives, and a rotary style brush system. My question is where the lower intake bolts down, is there a pre made gasket or do you have to make one? I know the upper has rubber red ones.
Huh
Is it possible for the intakes to clean them selves out by using additives and doing things like heavy towing? We use our 6.7 in the summer for towing, but in the winter Its mostly used for snow plowing, so I'm assuming that's when the buildup occurs.
I really dont have evidence to support that yet
Ditty, I drive a 6.0. was told years ago to get on it hard once in a while. get EGT's up there for a bit. When getting onto highway I just monch on the peddle and watch the soot blow out the tail pipe.Do it a couple of times till no more black out the tail pipe
Idle time = all coked up
What about a catch can from the CCV? Is that a thing?
Some have it
So the answer is: drive it like it stole it.
My 6.7 has a permanent code p2073 what do I need to do to fix
I already know SPE is a no no but is their ccv reroute kit passable?
You juss said it....
So is it normal for the EGR valve to “squawk” at you after you shut it down in a cold state? Mine has been doing this since it was new, seems odd. Never does it after a long run but always does it if it’s only been run a little and shut off.
Yea man
What additive do you suggest running?
Hotshots use our code PTT
What fuel additive do you use
Hotshots, use our code PTT
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What fuel additive do you recommend for the 6.7
Hotshots or amsoil...use our promo code on hotshot site "PTT"
I use archoil stuff is amazing
ROD,
You do know they are currently testing all electric
Superdutys at the Arizona testing facility, right?
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Do you recommend installing the catastrophic CCP 4 prevention fuel pump system And also in your knowledge does that void the manufacturers warranty
Yes i wld...have u seen my video
I know you made a video on the S&S catastrophe catastrophic failure system Have you ever tried the SPe system
Hell no
Care to share?
Share what?
I noticed mine was really oily soot due to me towing about 11000 pounds when it went into reduced engine power I'm assuming the reduced engine power caused the Turbo not to spool or boost and caused it to dump a bunch of oil through the intakes Is that normal?
That oil is from the crancase venolation brother
not doing something the government says you should not do but they have no problem robbing you of your pay check
i did what you're not supposed to do. 😂
Just disgusting and disappointing.Once a new truck reached its warranty,dump her unfortunately..
Diesels in general aren’t like they used to be
I’ve got to work mine harder. 😳
Same here. I only run mine when towing and/or running long trips now.
What kind of fuel additives do you recommend? I’m sure motorcraft is good, but do you have anything against Power Service? That’s what my dad runs in his 6.0
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@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank ya sir, just found it!