Gynocentrism is as much a problem of collective perception as it is our collective behaviour. Gynocentrism is the driving force of gamma bias (absolutely brilliant video!). Our prioritisation of female wellbeing on the basis of simply being female leads to gamma bias. Great to see the field of male psychology investigating it! Excellent actually. Everynow and then a great vid comes along. I have to share this one far and wide.
Let's finally admit to ourselves and each other that Camile Paglia's obliteration of the notion of The Patriarchy ( ruclips.net/video/ABXCNKWCHbc/видео.html 5:58-6:04)is no less applicable to deliberately vague and amorphous drivel like this whole business of Gynocentrism. Yes, it's true that we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures that APPEAR to be cute and cuddly at first glance, be they dolphins or attractive young women. Ergo, both shark conservationists and men's advocates have to be twice as innovative when pursuing their goals as do dolphin conservationists and women's advocates. That's just life though; no amount of us protesting or lamenting is going to rewire the human race into something that other than what we are The assertion that we must first eliminate this quirk of human cognition via a psychological revolution(an assertion put forth by folks like Paul Elam from the mid-10s-today, which has gone unchallenged for an unforgivably long time)BEFORE we can achieve legal and policy reform doesn't just give rational thought a bad name: It's inconsistent with the way in which humans have advance the cause of liberty and justice for all throughout the history of our species
It would have been great had they realized and included the fact feminism has been heralded as something only good, there is a whole matrix there including how the name influences people's perception of "female good"
This codifies perfectly the feminist's toolkit for argument, as well as the cultural and media narrative to pander to feminist agendas. I routinely see in the British Press, such as the BBC website, examples of Gamma bias, such as the domestic violence statistics 2019 which showed an increase in DV against women but made no mention of the DV committed by women against men - the focus of the article was on the increase against women. (I can't find the article because the BBC's search tool is just awful.) Another example of a cultural, and legal change, is this one: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53012585 which proposes that misogyny become a hate crime in law. So that's a double whammy for a man harming a woman - he'll get an enhanced punishment, as if men don't already serve stiffer sentences than women, on average, when committing the same crimes. How they might measure misogyny motivation is beyond me. But notice there is no equivalent misandry hate crime proposed?
Wow, I think this can make us more systematic and rigorous in our social criticism. I'm not sure how much use that is in persuading unwashed Reddit users, but perhaps we'll win over more clever people to our cause this way.
Good question. Not as far as I know, though there is already lots of evidence showing the existence of gamma bias that doesn't explicitly apply the theory e.g. this study ruclips.net/video/iR9tixOJSi0/видео.html recently published which was also presented at the Male Psychology Conference 2019.
Hi! you provide good examples to support the theory, as you suggested, but none to attempt to falsify it. I realize this may have been outside of the scope of this initial presentation, but you state in the video that the theory would be tested against empirical evidence (if any) towards the beginning of this video. Any updates on that? Id be very interested to know. I would also like to attempt to falsify it, but I (or any one person, with one lived experience) am not an ideal for comprehensively undertaking something like that, so.. yeah. updates would be fantastic
The problem is nothing is ever going to change. We must focus our efforts in helping men individually to navigate through and succeed despite all this gender bias (and mostly, not feel guilty about putting themselves first and women last). Society will NOT change.
Societies change all the time. Certainly we must support individual men suffering through gender bias, but we can't lose the focus and energy to push for change at every opportunity.
@@karma99 Societies do change, usually for the worse, and usually by those who have all the power in their hands. Our society is dominated by few, privileged, powerful men, that obtain great benefit in manipulating the masses of women to feel oppressed by the masses of men, while they, the few privileged and poweful men, rise even further above the common man. This dynamics is not going to change because it's comfortable for the few privileged men and for most women, even if it hurts most men. Just like slavery, that did eventually change, but it took 400 hundred years to do so despite hurting and oppressing generations after generation of people back then.
@@misterpinkandyellow74 Well you always have the option of dying while trying fight the system. Plenty of american slaves fought against the system during the centuries slavery took place in the Americas. All of them got killed doing so. The few smart and lucky ones managed to escape the system rather than fight it.
Hi Michael. It sounds very much like social identity theory. This is a very robust theory, but see my comments about the very relevant exception to the rule here malepsychology.org.uk/2017/03/06/male-identity-an-island-no-man-wants-to-visit/
See the comments on this thread: twitter.com/drantbradley/status/1274444332989374465 See if the man is divorced by the wife or killed its because he's an abuser or that men aren't held accountable enough. So its still his fault.
As of this moment, four "orbiting" simps of 2,719 viewers have given this video a thumbs down. Too bad this ratio of simps to men wasn't representative of men in the general population.
The fact that the gender of heroes is not celebrated is a good thing. Celebrate people, not labels. But of course, the same needs to apply to everything else. Any victim should be able to get help, any person contributing a significant development to humanity should be celebrated, any person doing harm should be punished according to the law - all without consideration of gender, race or any other label.
Wе livе in a sоciety, where one group is dеmonizеd and other group is celebrated, and this will not change, because this was created by a privilеgеd group with pоwеr
It's not a matter of celebrating the gender, it's about mentioning it. These biases create excess compassion for women and a deficit of compassion for men.
Aren't "biases" supposed to be ways in which human psychology works? This sounds like the researchers dislike some cultural norms of western democracies and so they call them "biases". Is there any "gamma bias" in Saudi Arabia?
Biases change with time and are different across culture. Like much in the field of psychology, the animation applies mainly to what is happening today in western culture. Some people will dislike the animation because it makes them have to face the fact that anti-male bias is the norm these days in the west. You can't convincingly argue there is no bias against men in the west just because there is bias against women somewhere else in the world, or in some part of history.
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Simple and powerful theory
Excellent description of ignored gender bias in modern society.
Gynocentrism is as much a problem of collective perception as it is our collective behaviour. Gynocentrism is the driving force of gamma bias (absolutely brilliant video!). Our prioritisation of female wellbeing on the basis of simply being female leads to gamma bias. Great to see the field of male psychology investigating it! Excellent actually.
Everynow and then a great vid comes along. I have to share this one far and wide.
Let's finally admit to ourselves and each other that Camile Paglia's obliteration of the notion of The Patriarchy ( ruclips.net/video/ABXCNKWCHbc/видео.html 5:58-6:04)is no less applicable to deliberately vague and amorphous drivel like this whole business of Gynocentrism. Yes, it's true that we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures that APPEAR to be cute and cuddly at first glance, be they dolphins or attractive young women. Ergo, both shark conservationists and men's advocates have to be twice as innovative when pursuing their goals as do dolphin conservationists and women's advocates. That's just life though; no amount of us protesting or lamenting is going to rewire the human race into something that other than what we are
The assertion that we must first eliminate this quirk of human cognition via a psychological revolution(an assertion put forth by folks like Paul Elam from the mid-10s-today, which has gone unchallenged for an unforgivably long time)BEFORE we can achieve legal and policy reform doesn't just give rational thought a bad name: It's inconsistent with the way in which humans have advance the cause of liberty and justice for all throughout the history of our species
... sincere thanks, gentlemen, for above and all your work.
Really interesting presentation. I'll definitely be sharing it.
It would have been great had they realized and included the fact feminism has been heralded as something only good, there is a whole matrix there including how the name influences people's perception of "female good"
An excellent animation!
This codifies perfectly the feminist's toolkit for argument, as well as the cultural and media narrative to pander to feminist agendas. I routinely see in the British Press, such as the BBC website, examples of Gamma bias, such as the domestic violence statistics 2019 which showed an increase in DV against women but made no mention of the DV committed by women against men - the focus of the article was on the increase against women. (I can't find the article because the BBC's search tool is just awful.) Another example of a cultural, and legal change, is this one: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53012585 which proposes that misogyny become a hate crime in law. So that's a double whammy for a man harming a woman - he'll get an enhanced punishment, as if men don't already serve stiffer sentences than women, on average, when committing the same crimes. How they might measure misogyny motivation is beyond me. But notice there is no equivalent misandry hate crime proposed?
Thanks for working on this problem few are allowed to speak about
Wow, I think this can make us more systematic and rigorous in our social criticism. I'm not sure how much use that is in persuading unwashed Reddit users, but perhaps we'll win over more clever people to our cause this way.
Are there any peer-reviewed publications applying this method yet?
Good question. Not as far as I know, though there is already lots of evidence showing the existence of gamma bias that doesn't explicitly apply the theory e.g. this study ruclips.net/video/iR9tixOJSi0/видео.html recently published which was also presented at the Male Psychology Conference 2019.
there is at least one such study underway at the moment - an international collaboration
Excellent work. I wish I had been there
Hi! you provide good examples to support the theory, as you suggested, but none to attempt to falsify it. I realize this may have been outside of the scope of this initial presentation, but you state in the video that the theory would be tested against empirical evidence (if any) towards the beginning of this video. Any updates on that? Id be very interested to know.
I would also like to attempt to falsify it, but I (or any one person, with one lived experience) am not an ideal for comprehensively undertaking something like that, so.. yeah. updates would be fantastic
there is a current international study underway
great stuff!
Nice presentation 👏
This is great insight.
the thing is that to change the actions and culture in UN, UNICEF, EU, governments,
The problem is nothing is ever going to change.
We must focus our efforts in helping men individually to navigate through and succeed despite all this gender bias (and mostly, not feel guilty about putting themselves first and women last).
Society will NOT change.
Societies change all the time. Certainly we must support individual men suffering through gender bias, but we can't lose the focus and energy to push for change at every opportunity.
@@karma99 Societies do change, usually for the worse, and usually by those who have all the power in their hands.
Our society is dominated by few, privileged, powerful men, that obtain great benefit in manipulating the masses of women to feel oppressed by the masses of men, while they, the few privileged and poweful men, rise even further above the common man.
This dynamics is not going to change because it's comfortable for the few privileged men and for most women, even if it hurts most men. Just like slavery, that did eventually change, but it took 400 hundred years to do so despite hurting and oppressing generations after generation of people back then.
You are part of the problem, you are making excuses for male inaction.
You are telling me to conform and knuckle down and gain status.
@@misterpinkandyellow74 Well you always have the option of dying while trying fight the system. Plenty of american slaves fought against the system during the centuries slavery took place in the Americas. All of them got killed doing so. The few smart and lucky ones managed to escape the system rather than fight it.
@@karma99 There more thing's change...
Spot on
Do you have any references to the patriarchal model that Eric spoke about, (mentioned at ~ 11.34min mark)?
Hi Michael. It sounds very much like social identity theory. This is a very robust theory, but see my comments about the very relevant exception to the rule here malepsychology.org.uk/2017/03/06/male-identity-an-island-no-man-wants-to-visit/
@@thecentreformalepsychology8489 Hmm. I wondered whether it was in relation to the concept of patriarchy?
I'm not sure what your question is but the patriarchal model is described in great details in the feminist literature.
See the comments on this thread:
twitter.com/drantbradley/status/1274444332989374465
See if the man is divorced by the wife or killed its because he's an abuser or that men aren't held accountable enough. So its still his fault.
As of this moment, four "orbiting" simps of 2,719 viewers have given this video a thumbs down. Too bad this ratio of simps to men wasn't representative of men in the general population.
lol
The fact that the gender of heroes is not celebrated is a good thing. Celebrate people, not labels. But of course, the same needs to apply to everything else. Any victim should be able to get help, any person contributing a significant development to humanity should be celebrated, any person doing harm should be punished according to the law - all without consideration of gender, race or any other label.
Wе livе in a sоciety, where one group is dеmonizеd and other group is celebrated, and this will not change, because this was created by a privilеgеd group with pоwеr
Woosh!
Thanks for confirming the theory of the video, that male problems are made gender neutral 😅
It's not a matter of celebrating the gender, it's about mentioning it. These biases create excess compassion for women and a deficit of compassion for men.
Aren't "biases" supposed to be ways in which human psychology works? This sounds like the researchers dislike some cultural norms of western democracies and so they call them "biases". Is there any "gamma bias" in Saudi Arabia?
Biases change with time and are different across culture. Like much in the field of psychology, the animation applies mainly to what is happening today in western culture. Some people will dislike the animation because it makes them have to face the fact that anti-male bias is the norm these days in the west. You can't convincingly argue there is no bias against men in the west just because there is bias against women somewhere else in the world, or in some part of history.
lol what? Are you suggesting that there is no psychology at play in relation to cultural norms? Dumb comment.
This is just about the worst animation I've ever seen. Good content though.