Law Abiding Citizen Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This week Gary and Iain review and discuss, Law Abiding Citizen (2009) by Director, F. Gary Gray. Starring, Jamie Foxx and Gerard Butler.
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I think that Gérard Butler’s character knew everything that was going to happen before I did
He was just waiting for Jamie Foxx to learn his lesson
He probably had a failsafe to get out of it, and he knew that Jamie Foxx would find the bomb because he didn’t even try to hide it
Nobody who is that meticulous would leave a case sitting in the middle of the floor
It was all plan from the beginning
This is one of those movies where you wanna see the bad guy win. Good movie with bad "happy" ending.
Excellent ending
I agree. The ending was terrible
Rare film where the villain wins at the end. No comeuppance for the lawyer after all the carnage and apparently gets to have a closer relationship with his family. A little odd they would have known at the start Butler cashed out his money and bought a bunch of property but never bother to do a deep dive in any of them until the end of the film.
The whole concept of the movie is what makes it work, because in real life is not that simple either, especially with the law, these characters live and operate in a grey area, and that idea clashes with your ideals as an audience, another interesting thing is how this movie doesn't get more recognition, is well acted, well made, and well written, but for some reason is kind of forgotten.
I think it’s solely because of that ending, it really took the movie down a peg, butler can die in the movie but he shoulda still won from beyond the grave, a deadman switch type of thing of you will
I always have a love/hate relationship with this movie mainly because of how cold Nick is towards Clyde, as all he cares about is his conviction rating, I definitely wanted Clyde to win.
It was so high profile lawyer like. He only played nice in the beginning to get him to agree to the deal. And Clyde was just a law abiding citizen 🙄 🤣
@@jmaurice72 Exactly. We all know killing people for revenge is wrong and against the law, but the level of sympathy and empathy you have for Clyde is way into outer space.
Meanwhile, Nick is just being detestable. I wish they made a sequel of this movie showing a more matured Nick dealing with another terrible situation, but handling it differently this time and the killer is a lot less like Clyde and more deranged making us identify with Nick. Your thoughts?
The movie starts off with a brutal murder, which doesn't seem out of place as a standard home invasion... then we later get told that Clyde is some super brain who plans spy missions better than anyone else... but he opened his door at night without checking who was knocking?
riggggghhhttt
Maybe being with his family made him real lax and complacent. These sort of things happen
Meh I can suspend my disbelief that he lets his guard down from time to time 🤷♂️
@@Prizm17 We all can do that, in certain settings, but an unexpected visitor at night is not amongst the most likely scenarios to get careless.
The problem with the movie is that they made the “villain” too relatable, likeable and intelligent, and the “hero” not relatable or likeable at all. So when it came to the end of the story, they struggled to reconcile these two factors, leading to a really dissatisfying ending where they had to retcon Clyde’s intelligence just so he could be beaten by a hero who learns nothing from his own misdeeds
Are you guys vampires? I've watched years of reviews and you never look older, just like Cage and Keanu.
You two are legends keep these videos coming every thursday morning i cant wait for the next one.
I'm hoping a Slashers 2 comes out so they can do that one...
29:58 ...so, Miles O'Brien and Ray Charles! 🤣🤣 Ian you never fail to crack me up! balled fist and index fingers pointing up, intense look on the face - "Lets get to the fuckin meat of this"
22:49 as soon as she said “I’m a judge I can do whatever I want” I knew she was dead 😂
Being a correctional officer, working in a state prison, this movie was soooo frustrating to watch 😂
_"So Miles o'Brien and Ray Charles have obviously realised..."_
My god that would be an amazing team-up.
I'd love to see you guys cover The Collector films. Seeing Josh Stewart briefly in this and the fact it came out the same year made me want to request those films
Awesome review as always guys! I always remember this one renting well during my Blockbuster days. Did Iain really just call Jamie Foxx's character "Ray Charles" ? 😂
The ending sucked. Jamie Foxx didn’t learn anything by the end. Butler’s character should have won.
Well, he learned to spend more time with his family, which doesn't seem a fair trade compared to the suffering he's caused.
Cheers guys! Great review as always! Enjoyed this film! 😁 👍
There's a big opening for a sequel to explore where Clyde comes from as well as pick up on where Nick is now and if he learned the right lessons from this. I'm intrigued...
The ending totally ruins what is a great revenge movie upto that point and they should have done a alternate ending in which Clyde does win by making Nick kill him in cold blood after planting a bomb at his house which blows up causing Nick to lose it and kill him in front of Detective Dunnigan thus ruining his life finishing with Nick getting a call from his wife saying they are safe.
If we had got that ending or something similar in which Clyde wins, it would have made the film much better as the film is all about the flaws in the justice system.
The reason the ending is kinda bad is because Jamie Fox cried to director and wanted to be the main hero of the movie. If the director and people behind it didn't agree, he said he would walk. So they had to change the original ending they planned and make Jamie's character win in the end!!
I would really like a sequel to this, where a good law abiding person is done wrong by the system and takes revenge but upping the schemes and violence with callbacks to this movie's people and events.
The paralysis torture sequence reminds me of a French movie called 7 Days, if you've seen it, you know what i'm talking about.
Wouldn't mind seeing a review of that movie too.
Great review as always guys, cheers.
Law abiding citizen 2!! Thanks for the review guys I remember watching this film when it was released & always thought it could’ve had a sequel - look forward to seeing where the story goes
Clyde did still win. Nick had to resort to Clyde's methods to beat him. He couldn't do it within the limits of the law.
Also, for the sequel...he could have easily had a second escape, just in case. Or he survived and is just badly burned. If he's even in it. Would be interesting if the sequel follows Nick actually using what he learned from Clyde to deal with criminals in the future.
Yes! Can’t wait to listen to this one in work in a second haha!
Have you fellas watched Hard Candy yet? If not, you oughta!
I'm sorry but Death Race (2008) is not like Law Abiding Citizen (2009). You, know where Death Race (2008) actually fits in perfectly? You take Steve Austin's The Condemned (2007), then Death Race (2008) and then Gamer (2009), also with Gerard Butler as a triple feature! (I got this from a brief image on YMS' review on the sequels to Death Race (2008))
Punisher/V for Vendetta , awesome movie.
Leslie Bibb was the protagonist in a comedy show called Good Christian Bitches. It was good, I laughed a lot when I watched it, but it only lasted a season.
I loved the movie but was so disappointed with the end though. I wanted Clyde to win it all and go out on his terms.
He kind of did if you subscribe to the theory that he wanted Nick to find the bomb.
How did I miss this one!? I'm glad I check myself weekly to catch up or add a few of your vids to my nitetime playlist..you don't know me but you've been sleeping with me for years...❤😊
My one complaint is that scene where they talk about him having a background with military intelligence, or whoever it was. I think that really kills a lot of what the film was supposed to be. But with it being such a small moment, it's easy enough to ignore
I agree, it kinda damaged my suspension of disbelief for Clyde.
Exactly. It's sold on the idea of being just a regular guy who spent years working on the details. It screams studio interference, to me. Likee they were too scared to fully commit to the idea.
Like how, with _Falling Down_ , we're told he's just a guy who loses his shit. But then we learn he's actually a violent, abusive sociopath.
Don't want to be _too_ controversial
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Have a good one, Shelfers! 👊👊👊
New subscriber. This review was ON POINT. Great review.
This movie is my guilty pleasure. It's like the movie wants you to be on the lawyers side but I rooted for the villain.
The lawyers were the villains, no hero would give that scumbag a deal. The good guy lost.
@@samuelgaijin2565 which is why I hated the ending. :(
Yep, it was great almost all the way through and then immediately went to shit. They should have been watching death sentence while writing the ending.
@@samuelgaijin2565 You missed Adams point the lawyers were designated heroes, writers postioned them in that moral alignment thinking they are the good guys. But watching film realise their non- heroic or morally ambiguous actions.
This not first movie that made this mistake or even in story in fact.
This was a good review guys! Thank you! This is a pretty dark movie starring Gerrard Butler.
I'm so glad you guys don't ask for likes and subscribes. Another moive suggestion, what do you get when you mix the thing with leeches, the thaw. I can hear Iain already, Val Kilmer is the best thing about this moive, and he's barely in it. Gary really? I liked the effects and found some of them hard to look at.
I agree with ian this is the darkness & grit that dc had in comics but cant seem to touch in film.
Law abiding is one of my all time favs! I watched this as a kid, and even as a grown up I always skip the first scene and go right to the scene with Jaime Foxx. I like the ending, except the fact that Jamie causes Gerard's death. Because Jamie Foxx is a super cop and it's weird to watch him just straight up commit a murder and act like it's justified. Still a great movie I've showed many people haha
Hey gents. I was going through your catalog and noticed you don't have a ton of reviews on Christmas movies. Perhaps it's not your style. Though I'd love to hear you guys go in depth on some of the greats. Christmas Vacation, Home Alone, etc. Hell. You might have some classics from across the pond that I've never heard of.
Cheers.
You ever worry about starting a film when the director's name starts with "F. Gary"? Like it might be a sign?
Regulators.... lets rock out
I can’t wait for you guys to do The Godfather Trilogy.
I am going to watch this again. I don’t think I thought about what happened in the story because I liked Jamie Fox. And I was rooting for his character. But still felt bad for Gerald’s character. Now I feel like Jamie’s character was being a dick. Like some politicians and government agencies in the city. And this was made in my hometown of Philadelphia.
I want to rewatch this but that opening with Clyde’s family is rough for me as somebody with a daughter. Wife and probably little girl Raped/murdered in front of him is just about too much for me.
The home invasion is based on a real event
It's one of my favourite movies, absolutely awsome revenge movie,.
Where's the link to buy one of those Iain shirts ILL BUY TWENTY!!!
Anywho I saw this back in 2010 and liked it but was confused over who was right and wrong. Now today I seriously think this is an underrated masterpiece about the corruption of the JS that is very relevant today. My family as well has dealt with a crooked system over lies and deception in court
Come-on everyone! If we spread the word we can get this channel to be the first 1 billion subscribers!
Yeah I don't understand how it's so low right now...
do love this film, its one of those movies you can just put on and watch and not overthink it. and i like the ending also i felt that it tied up nicely. but if the second one butler lives, gotta have a dsmn good reason! think tank or not lol. great review guys x
The ending is a travesty to the natural story arc of the story. Once Nick says he doesn’t make deals anymore, then Leonidas should purposely trigger his bed bomb in a satisfying suicide instead of the bomb at the mayor’s offices. That makes the best story progression and makes the whole thing an actual morality play. Instead we get some dumbass action “hero” in a jarringly discordant climax. Dud dud dud.
This movie does look good! Great review boys!!
Thanks guys.
shelf life!
like a shock!
Gary, where did you get that t-shirt? I need it.
Fantastic review very good film bad ending 👊
I actually wouldn't have been surprised if some of the ACAB supporters had this movie in mind.
Note: no I don't support ACAB, though I do see where they're coming from esp since corrupt cops are still a thing, that doesn't mean paint the entire apple orchard as "burn it all down"
It is interesting that you reviewed this movie after Cape Fear. I saw this movie when it came out. I think this is Cape Fears’ clumsy cousin. This is a heavy handed look at the criminal justice system. It is a serviceable film, but not a great film. 🙂🙂🙂
it would've been better if
the daughter's
CELLO 🎻
exploded after she played it
Nick was always the real villain to me as he used his job to only further his career while ignoring goodness knows how many cases where he allowed perpetrators to go free. A perfect ending would have been both Clive and Nick dying in the prison cell. Both paying for their crimes, although I'm pretty sure Clive died (inside) when his daughter died.
Great movie, due a revisit 👌
GERARD BUTLER. Not Gerald.
I don't remember this movie at all. Had to stop the video and go watch it.
Great review but have you seen the unrated cut?
Too bad the judge phone killing was shown in all the previews
The wrong man won!
I can tell when you guys enjoy a film
This movie would be amazing it Jamie Foxx hadn't ego bullied them into changing the ending.
I think Jamie fox is wearing a special 👔
Good film guy's, a female friend of mine couldn't get past the first 5 minute's due to it's graphic nature.
Yes! It wasnt just me! Through the whole movie I always sided with Gerard Butler's character.
Great review boys, thank you....also Butler is a crap actor in my opinion..
WORST ENDING EVA! A prime example of a Diva using his pull to satisfy his ego. It could have been remembered with Arlington Road and Usual Suspects. But no...Just turn it off before the last 15 minutes and make your own ending.
Thought this movie was all right.
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You should do ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK/L.A.
so basically
CLYDE
is a ripoff of my
NSA career
USMC career
U.S. NAVY career
just like
JOHN CENA
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&
LIAM NEESON in TAKEN
&
some other characters in other
MOVIES & TV SHOWS
Movie was trash because of its horrible ending. The system is corrupt and this movie has the system win.
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the movie’s attempt to address the fallacies of the legal system was lost in an impossible plot, driven by hollywood’s need to sensationalize. an utterly ridiculous movie.
Audiences love this movie, critics seem to dislike it
Good review, thanks.