LAW ABIDING CITIZEN (2009) MOVIE REACTION - THIS WENT TOO FAR! - FIRST TIME WATCHING - REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- Welcome to our first-time watching as we react to Law Abiding Citizen (2009).
Directed by F. Gary Gray, "Law Abiding Citizen" follows the story of Clyde Shelton (Gerard Butler), a man who takes extreme measures to seek justice for the murder of his family. Nick Rice (Jamie Foxx) an official who only cares about keeping his track record as perfect as he can decides to make a deal with a criminal, little does he know this will come at a great cost.
This is a tale of justice, revenge, and moral ambiguity.The film takes us through the exploration of vigilante justice, its portrayal of the legal system, and it's moral gray areas. There's some amazing tense sequences here especially in the courtroom scenes that had us at the edge of our seats!
This movie has it's pros and cons but overall it was an enjoyable film in the thriller genre.
We hope you enjoy our reactions, commentary and discussions as we delve into the intricate themes "Law Abiding Citizen" ponders. From how the justice system works to the grey areas that can be exploited the film does an excellent job at keeping it's audience engaged.
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thank you guys for uploading another gem from the treasure chest!! gerald bulter deliver yet again..
there are different side movies to this arc as well..
but another great movie featuring gerald bulter is the movie "dracula 2000." with him playing vlad himself in this later years of the year 2000 our time!! and the vampires are wa different from other vampire movies released after this movie!! id say both dracula untold is B tier,and brim stokers dracula is A tier with dracula 2000 easy A tier ranking!
12:59 just fml, throwing out it out there everyone!!
i would do far worse with this guy and this scene the knife on the testies lol yup, they gotta go lol
you mess with wife or kids, your pants is the last thing youll be touching anyone with :P
35:05 legendary mrs viola davis!!! my bae..
see gerald bulter character is like a male version of "amanda waller" aka viola davis character in the suicide squad 1/2 and birds of prey movies alongside the cartoon version called "justice league animated series/young justice season 1-4
Enjoy your reactions. Did you two see that the official trailer for Deadpool & Wolverine has dropped. Just a heads up if not.
I personally feel Clyde is right in his ideals, and I don't know if it's right or wrong to say he took it too far. It depends on the context you're coming from personally I think
And let's be real: Nick cheated the system to win. He broke into Clyde's property without a warrant and placed the bomb in Clyde's cell with the knowledge that this would kill him.
The only bad thing about this movie is that the wrong side won
There is something that feels wrong about Clyde's ending for sure - hopefully his actions forced them to actually make changes in the justice system!
Yup. ending totally ruined the movie (ok, maybe not) but jamie should have died in that cell with clyde
BIG FACTS
It wasn't about winning or losing. It was about forced the DA to do his job and think.
@@jaredswords3 except he didn't do his job
He broke the rules twice to win from Clyde (broke into his property without a warrant and placed the bomb into Clyde's cell knowing it would kill him)
That's why it's not the right ending
15:43. He needed to be alive to execute his plan, he couldn’t afford to be shot by the police. By being butt-ass naked, it reduced the chances of the cops thinking he could be armed.
Looove that he thought through every single thing! After all the effort, he was not going to put his life into the hands of those who failed him
Also they needed an excuse to show Gerard Butler's ass
"This is a victory for us." This line pisses me off so much every time I watch this. For Nick, it's his career and success, publicity and new clients. For Clyde, it's about carving out some slight bit of peace after everything he cared about was ripped from him, leaving him a hollow shell of a person. Nick took away Clyde's chance to heal because Darby destroyed his life and Nick used him as a bargaining chip to further his career.
Right?! It was absolutely NOT a victory, it was a travesty! It was so utterly infuriating that someone like Nick, a hot shot attorney, would not push harder for what was supposed to happen!
@Barovian20 that's how the system works and how the Law abuses it like a little kid that found his dad's gun
@@rickymoranjr9609 dang i cant argue with those metaphors and facts lol. i 100% agree too
@@jebVlogs556 awesome
To think, all Nick had to do was take it to trial and none of that would've happened.
He wanted Nick to fight for him and his family. But Nick was so focused on not losing, that he made a deal with the devil. Hell has no Fury.
Wtf are you taking about they said it like 5 times. Wtf does him being black have to do with ANYTHING?
@@thewelder4449 I never mentioned color. Please don't comment on my phone with dumb shit.
@orangehaw this was more of a Jamie Fox problem always wanting to win and look like a cool guy, wish he was put in his place like Tarantino did in Django (as was said by Fox in a howard stern interview)@@orangehaw
@@orangehaw Anyone's heritage has nothing to do with this movie.
Śmieszni ludzie oceniający aktorów, którzy grają swoje role napisane przez scenarzystów, twórców takich historii l.debile, żałosne gnoje. Urzekła cię historia ? N8w wymyslił nie opisał tego aktor tylko nieznana osoba. Podkrecił to reżyser jego zespôł i zatrudnił aktorów @aktorow. Powinieneś cenić tych za płaczą scenarzystę fiat writera. Który stworzył całą tą historię. Aktorzy lepsi albo bgorsi są tylko aktorami. Bez scenariusza są nikim.
"Are you doing this for a high conviction rate?"
"So you want me to violate his civil rights? Okay, I'm game."
"I'm a judge, I can pretty much do whatever I want."
"Fuck his civil rights".
The movie has lines like this where it shows the system is broken. Proving Clyde right. How Jamie's character is just making deals for a high conviction rate to make himself look good.
Well said!
Jamie was really the bad guy in this movie
"Reputation is more important than welfare." A phrase that has been drummed into us all since childhood.
And yet there are always sheeps who will root for system (Nick) and call Clyde a villain, because they have nice comfort zone in this Capitalistic period of time and can't imagine to have anything else.
@@Gylaran There's nothing wrong with capitalism - in fact it's the only system that proved to work consistently. Everything else failed miserably, often killing the people who adopted them.
"That's why we have people like Matt Murdock."
Damn that, that's why we have people like Frank Castle.
Punisher fan
Its one and the same... They are on different sides of the fence, but share the same motives.
We have people like Matt Murdock because there are people that believe justice should be made regardless of the flaws of the justice systems.
And we have people like Frank Castle because there are people that believe justice should be made regardless of the flaws of the justice systems.
That’s why we have people like V.
Imagine Clyde and Frank Castle joining the team. Clyde as brain of the operation, Frank as the muscle. Pure destruction of the system, not even any secret agency would have a chance to stop them. And also taking out mobs and mafias one by one.
@@luiscesarvianagomes970
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The ending has always annoyed me. The man is a genius with multiple backup plans for everything and he didn't devise a way to be alerted to someone coming through his tunnel? He didn't have an alternate escape route from the cell? The only explanation is he planned to die no matter what and he saw that he finally got his point across, so he figured that was the time. I'm not sure I would want to live after my wife and daughter were murdered either. That said, I have read that the ending was supposed to be Clyde living, but it was changed during production...allegedly because Foxx didn't want his character to lose. Don't know how true that is.
Not true at all. It’s said that the writers and producers had trouble with finding an ending to Nick’s character.
There’s many alternative endings where Clyde still dies, but there’s trouble for Nick as well. Changes were constantly being made up to the end of filming because they weren’t happy.
I heard this as well. What a shame. I put this up there with 'Falling Dow;, as the two 90% brilliant movies, that seem to chicken out from the harder ending.
@@jrobertlysaght Difficult to make a hard ending in Woke Hollywood. This is of course the early stages of the infiltration. But, it is what it is.
Must've used that secret island priviledge.
The ending scene where Nick spending time with his family. Gives me the vibe that he victimized himself as a survivor? Makes me wonder did he ever feel remorse for his decisions?
That was the quote of the movie Jamie's assistant before the blew up
She said, I hope "I didn't give everything up for a high rate in convictions"
This is what Jamie did, he sold that family out for a deal.
if revenge is a dish served cold, then this movie was a family meal .....
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That got delivered 15 min late
@@georgekellon2471 brilliant.
A buffet
@@georgekellon2471 he knew it was gonna be late
When this movie 1st came out to buy, My cousins & i did a weekend visit with my 82 yr old grandma, the sweetest little southern baptist lady who was dangerously naive & never uttered a single cuss word in her life. One evening she puts in a DVD for a movie she tells us is her new favorite & we should all watch it. My cousins & i of course, act excited but considering she used to make us fast forward thru the "racy" parts of Forrest Gump as kids, we weren't expecting anything too intense. None of us had seen it, so imagine our suprise when she the movie starts & it's THIS!! Grandma went savage on us.
*RIP grandma~ we miss u!❤
That is a nice story. What exactly your grandma loved about this movie? Because religious people are all for the system and law and this movie is a war against system and the law. :) Everyone who likes it have a little side of an anarchy in the heart.
@@GylaranI’m religious but I don’t like it when they use the system against us
@@Gylarana lot of my family like this movie too
15:44 I always figured he got naked so they knew he wasn’t hiding anything. Not a lot of need to pat down and search someone when you can see everything. So he gets naked and immediately into a nonthreatening and submissive response to make it faster and easier to take him into custody without concerns for their own safety. De escalates the situation while also being kind of an F you to them lol
actually it wasn't the reason. The reason he was undressing to be fully na ked when police came for him, is to make sure they don't plant anything on his body, like planting dr ugs into pocket, etc, so they won't have anything to imprison him (ike drug possession or having a knife or gun related to some crime) outside of that case m which he was fully in control. For example police could've easily change the initial report by adding that he had a gun or drugs on him, so this would've given them reason to put him in custody.
He did it to make sure he didn't get shot and accidently killed. Smart
@@anonymousfx5254 but he wanted to be in police custody. He wanted to be arrested it was always part of his plan. I have a hard time thinking he did it to avoid them planting things on him when he was ultimately confessing to murder anyways
@@tylerdurden5406 he went into custody under certain case, which he planned for years. He was playing with them to give confession cause they had 0 evidence at start and couldn't prove his guilt and if he didn't explode on judge- he would've go free.
He wanted them to follow the game he planned. He had years to study and he knew what police does and can do whenever it benefits officials. They could've changed the initial report and stating that he had a knife with Darby's blood or he had a drugs on him in his pocket so they had an excuse to keep him in custody and whole plan he had to mock the judge would've failed, but since all they had is 1 case for which they had 0 evidence, he was able to continue his game and mocked the judge as he planned initially.
@@anonymousfx5254 the mistake here is assuming mocking the judge was a means to anything other than to annoy her. He mocked he proved a point that he could’ve gone free but he ultimately wanted to be in solitary confinement. Planting evidence- which is in itself pretty rare realistically and unnecessary in this case as a knife on his person wouldn’t have mattered nor would having a gun as he was in his own home. Drugs might do something but again he’s accused of murder.
The facts are in a tense high pressure and stress situation like that with the SWAT team coming in full tactical gear - they’re more likely to shoot first and ask questions later. But if he’s naked on his knees hands behind his head it gives them the illusion of safety and full control. Meanwhile he’s actually in full control.
My brother was murdered 5 days before his sons (my nephews) first birthday. He was shot in the head and then had gasoline poured on him and was burnt. I had to watch my nephew open his birthday presents 5 days later with all his "Love Daddy" gifts. The guy who murdered him was out less than 6 years later (I'm in Canada). Sometimes when you want justice you DO have to go and get it yourself...
Since Trudeau, the Arch Traitor of our people became PM thanks to China, everything in our country has gone down hill hard.
Words cannot express my sorrow for your loss.
HOW?
How can he been out within 6 years.?
I'm so sorry for your loss. Words can't describe the damage it has caused you and your family.
Hope justice finds him.
I would be waiting for that guy as soon as he was released.
My favorite scene is when the government contact reveals Clyde's skillset in the subway tunnel. The fear and tension are perfect.
I love that part.
"If Clyde wants you dead, you're dead"
15:45 "why"
Simple
He's fully naked so they can't shoot him on a technicality. It's Swat that's picking him up, not regular police, and they absolutely can use deadly force if they deem it necessary
Approaching them buck naked means they have 0 reason to suspect he's carrying a weapon, ergo, if they shoot him, he still wins
Niiiice, thank you so much for explaining that to us!! Makes a lot of sense and also adds to Clyde's foresight, once more!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Yeah, Clyde genuinely is a genius, but I guess that's what 10 years of prep gets ya haha
yeah its literally the one part of the plan he can't control. Once he's in jail, his leverage and preparations allow him complete control of the situation, but until then he's depending on others following rules he KNOWS they only use when convenient, so he tries to eliminate as many variables as possible.
@tylergay2012 very possible
"WELL IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT YOU CAN PROVE IN COURT! Didn't you tell me that once?!" Such a powerful movie, you guys have been systematically working your way through my personal unwritten top 100 movies steadily, I'm having an awesome time following yous two!
Like many people, I really hated Nick. He really didn't care how many lives was destroyed as long as he had a high conviction rate and only started to care about "justice" when he was the one being affected by what was going on. Just as he proved with Darby. He didn't care if someone got away with murder. As long as he got to convict someone, it didn't matter if the one convicted was guilty or innocent.
NOBODY mentions the genius of him ordering a T-Bone steak. Basically a pair of brass knuckles to stab that guy with. 😂😂😂
More like a shiv
That's actually one of the more annoying plot holes
There's no way in hell the warden would have let it go through bone-in. He would have had them remove the bone and just deliver the meat. You even see it start to go through the X-ray, where they definitely would have seen the sharp bone inside
That’s one of my favorite part of the movie
"Did we bring all this on ourselves?" It's so disappointing that Bruce McGill's character got the point so long before Nick got it.
and it's so annoying that nick never got it. still on his bs to the very end
Nick was too high on his horse and ego to admit anything.
@@alicepbg2042 He literally said at the end, "I don't do deals with murderers anymore, you [Clyde] taught me that."
@@fairshareofdrownedsouls unrelated.
One is recognizing his mistakes, another was learning from his actions.
He learned how to win. But never recognized his mistakes.
@@alicepbg2042 Nick may have never admitted having any part in how it played out, but he did get it at the very end - when he said "I don't make deals with murderers Clyde, you taught me that". Too little too late, but he got it.
Only people who have no one to lean on go into shady black ops stuff. And one of the best minds in that decides to settle down and two idiots rob and assault his wife and daughter. Now again he has nothing to lose but a heart filled with vengeance.. That's a very dangerous enemy you made for yourself
This dude was a one man army! They really messed with the wrong one.
One thing I dislike the thing is: Nick doesn't have any redeeming actions or redeeming arc in this film. Just because you had kid's and you are good father to them, doesn't redeem Nick's actions. Also he doesn't even seem to care Clyde or even acknowledge even later that he should have done differently. Also, originally Nick was meant to die to redeem his actions but Jamie Foxx managed pull strings to change end. Only thing I hate this film is the end, when another bad guy, Nick wins. to me there's no heroes in this film. Only bad guys and victims. Amazing film though.
Nicks line " i dont do deals with murderers anymore" means Clydes point was finally seen. Nick is now the top and has learned the fking lesson Clyde wanted him to learn. So the justice system is going to improve (in this movies world anyways).
Plus, why is a lawyer heading this murder investigation? 😂😂
@@pingidjithe didn't learn a damn thing. He only didn't go for the deal because he got lucky with Chester and sabotaged Clyde. If he didn't have that info, he would take Clyde's deal.
The point was to not only not make deals with criminals, but also not to cut corners to project an air of perfection, to play by the book because in the end that is what mattered to Clyde - he said so himself as "you could've walked out of the courtroom with your head held high, I could've lived with that". Nick *failed* to do that on his own and had to use underhanded means in order to beat Clyde
I kept waiting for the moment that jamie foxx tried to take his tie off at the end of the day after his daughter's recital and choke to death by the zip wire they talked about earlier in the film.
That would have been a great ending and Clyde getting the last laugh
@@davidward9737 from a writers stand point I thought that's where it was heading given that was very specific story of how he killed a man without being in the room. It would also leave him for last echoing the line,"If Clyde wants you dead you're dead." Also Nick really didn't do enough to redeem himself he got his entire team killed and he got a promotion to DA.
There is an original ending draft where Jamie's character loses and would go to jail and ends with him having to make a deal with the flawed system he works for. I really wish they stuck with that ending as this film you really wanted Gerald to succeed.
Jamie's character sucked due to how he focused on his occupation where it affected his family life and Gerald just to maintain a perfect record.
Denise laughing in pure bliss to instant shock and horror was priceless
Guys… you have GOT to react to “Children of Men” with Clive Owen. One of my favorite movies ever. I know you guys will love it.
The editing and pacing is masterful, as well as the direction from Alfonso Cuarón. When the topic of ‘edge of your seat’ tension comes up, this movie is towards the very top of that list.
Oh that one is on our list! We’ll get to it soon 😄
Oh that movie was great 😮
@@OfficialMediaKnights Yes! Please react to that! One of my all time favs.
My favorite movie ever!
@@OfficialMediaKnightsits soo soo good. I can’t wait to see your faces at some of the moments in that one, because it is A RIDE 😂
The thing I love about this movie is that they had to break several laws in order to beat him, which is part of his whole point. The system is broken. At every level.
I don’t care for Nick’s character. Even though he learns to stop cutting deals with murders and to value his family time, it’s just too little too late.
Nick shows how corrupt the system is that at no point is he in the wrong. When a system is broken it’s time to tear it down.
Honestly completely agree! Nick has no redeeming qualities to me. At no point was I rooting for him to win. I wanted Clyde to burn everything to the ground that has to do with his family’s case 🤷🏻♀️
Law Abiding Citizen has to be the craziest underdog movie there is. People have no idea what they're in for when they start to watch it.
And I have yet to hear someone NOT be POSITIVELY surprised after watching it. Looking forward to seeing this reaction and the review :D Because for me it's one of the few 10/10 there is.
Don't be so quick to buy what Nick said; about "At least they get some justice". He was a highly ambitious climber. The only thing on his mind was how to use a high conviction rate as a stepping stone. His motivation for the deal was corrupt, no matter how he prettied it up with his own justification. I love this movie, and I'm so happy you guys watched it. :)
@@orangehaw
Oh stop. A lot of people didn’t understand it. Hell, i didn’t until a year or so ago. Sometimes it’s just not that clear to others.
@@AlastorsShadowDemonit’s corruption, it’s very clearly about the numbers and Nick’s personal gain
Your reaction to the Judges phone call was priceless. I freaking LOVE that part
Another good movie of revenge is, as Denise said, "Man on Fire". Onenof Denzel Washington's BEST movies and such a tearjerker.
That movie is fire.
The ending was such a copout, honestly. If you're going to make a brutal vengeance flick, stick to it and make it a brutal vengeance flick. Don't fluff out at the end!
I always believed that Clyde dying was always the plan. After all he did, no way he wouldn’t get the death penalty. Now, how in the world they got back to the cell to put the bomb in, handcuff it, and all before Clyde himself made it back, that screams rushed finishing of the script. But even tho the “wrong side won”, Clyde did everything he needed to. Got his revenge or Darby and Ames, proved to everyone in that world how broken the system was, and taught Nick to be better. He may not have lived, but he most definitely didn’t lose.
The original ending was him winning, but Jamie Foxx didn't like it so they changed the ending and ruined it.
I feel the same, he doesn't wan't to live anymore because he lost his family and the whole point was to change Nick's view of the system
Another film within this genre and with much better tension is The Next Three Days with Russel Crowe, Elizabeth Banks, Olivia Wilde, and Liam Neeson. A film no reaction channel has yet reviewed. One of my favorite films to recommend since most people haven't seen it.
The irony of this movie is that the means they tried to go to punish Clyde for outsmarting them is happening in real life to people who never committed any crimes except for the crime of the system just not liking them. Like what the mayor and the judge said, whatever legal loophole they can use to violate a man’s god given rights they will use to remain in power they will do.
The Mayor was NOT "Violating" Anything! She was Trying to Defend the City! as Look at Clyde, this guy is PISSED off cause of what happened to his family. Make no mistake, IM ALSO MAD, Nick made a deal to Keep up his Conviction Rates, THATS MESSED UP. But CLyde is Also messed up. As some say Nick does not care About Justice Just so Long as he Keep's his High Rates up, well Look At Clyde, he also does not care about the Lives of Innocent People JUST so Long as he Can Unleash ALL his Rage on the City. As Clyde, he's not Getting Justice for his family, all he is doing is Attacking And terror-Bombing a great City ALL because He cant See the Truth, which is What he's doing is Not gonna solve or fix anything. Its not gonna bring his family Back and its not just instantly gonna "FIX" the Law. Is the Law Flawed, Yes it is. But also, Clyde delusionally believing he can make the world a better place by Using terrorism is also Flawed and CRAZY. CLyde lost his family, Its Terrible. Well all the Innocent people he killed who HAD NOTHING AT ALL to do with the deal and Also, Had their OWN Family's. and What Clyde did, he ruined these family's. CLyde's a hypocrite. As here he is, Berating the Law for not punishing darby and ames and yet, Clyde has BECOME Worse then darby. as darby, He was not threating the WHOLE CITY.
@@seanmager1168 what I’m pointing out is that the people in charge of the legal system were also willing to break Clyde’s god given rights in order to stop him before they even realized he was doing everything on his own. The judge literally says this before she dies and agrees to do it. I’m saying in the real world this happens too.
@@quadboy4lyfe What the judge meant was she can answer her Cell-Phone ANYTIME she wants. That's what she Meant, as they were Talking about and sorta making a Joke about Cell-PHone's. Besides, Just Please tell me your sane and rational enough to see that Clyde is a TRUE Villain. as what he's Doing, NOTHING about it is Justifiable. As he KILLED Innocent People. Darby's Lawyer, the Judge, Nick's Intern's and assistants, they did nothing wrong. They were Following the Law EXACTLY how it written. they Abided by the Procedures and played By the Book's. Like how I 1nce heard on Law and Order SVU, some1 Said 1nce, "Look i did not Create the Law Ok??? ALL I do is follow it and Play By its Rules as its whats Right. I dont Control the Law. and I dont have the power to change it."
Besides what Clyde is doing, it changed nothing. As other lawyers WILL make deals. Just cause nick says he wont make Deals with scum Anymore that still dont change the fact other Lawyers are out There and some WILL STILL Make Deals. ALL clyde did is become what he Hated and do the SAME Stuff which happened to his family. Yeah Clyde did not rape any1 But he still Took family's Loved 1's from them.
@@seanmager1168 no it wasn’t about answering the phone. They were talking about putting him in solitary confinement without any reason at all and taking away his access to yard time and phone calls. I got the clip right here: ruclips.net/video/UjbRnmJrWIQ/видео.htmlsi=sGgMxba7Ge-C1PL4
Yes Clyde is a bad guy I’m not denying that but you’re not hearing me. The criticism of the legal system the movie is pointing out is real. I’m not saying that means I condone vigilanteism but violating people’s rights is not acceptable.
@@quadboy4lyfe Uh NO. I AM Hearing you. Im Just saying as Flawed as the Justice and Legal system is, Clyde is WAY WORSE and also, What Nick and Jonas were proposing, And also like the judge said was JUST Temporary and also, I DID support what they were Doing. A Guy that slippery who was Somehow STILL Getting people Killed though he's Locked Up, as they had NO IDEA How he's Doing it, I AGREE they NEEDED to REALLY Take Drastic measures with Clyde. sometimes Bending the STepping outside the Law a TINY BIT to stop some1 who'd Blow up WHOLE Building's filled with people to Just Make Nick Hurt and Feel bad is TOTALL UNDERSTANDABLE. BEsides, This is allowed. when some1 THIS DANGEROUS is Threatening the City, eventually at 1 point, Its ALL OFF. We just go after These Maniac's with SWAT and stuff. I May not agree with Nick On the deal Like i said, But id DO ANYTHING to protect the city. as in, IF Clyde By ANY CHANCE Got his hands on a Nuke, I DO Believe he'd Use it.
I love this movie. It is absolutely one of my favorites. Gerard was interviewed about this movie and he said he loved playing Clyde and was very surprised when he snuck into a showing and saw that the audience didn’t turn on Clyde like he thought they would. Also if you liked this movie I suggest American Gangster if you haven’t seen it. It has Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe and it’s a true story.
Truly underrated movie! Doesn't get talked about at all. Rumor is Jamie Fox wanted his character to win and forced them to change the ending.
Really? That’s kinda disappointing. It seems the studio changed it so that we wouldn’t have “the guy that offed so many wins” The ending could’ve been polished a bit more for sure!
I heard that too
Could very well have been the studio. That's just the rumor I've always heard is that Fox made a huge deal about it.
@mnemonic1363 wow, he's just like his character in this movie, corrupt and a cheat
If that's true that means Jamie is a dick
Gerard Butler played a great Antagonist in this movie, he should've won an Oscar for his flawless acting in this movie
Clyde was the hero.
Everyone believes that Clyde is after revenge. But that wasn't it - at least, not until the very end. He really was teaching Nick a lesson. Nick had always put his professional ambitions above EVERYTHING. He put his ambitions above the pursuit of justice for Clyde's family, and he even put it above his very own family.
In their final scene together, Nick informs Clyde that he no longer makes deals with murderers. And in the very final scene, Nick puts his family before his job by finally going to one of his daughter's recitals. At the very end of it all, Clyde won.
and he killed 6 cops in the process. Clyde was no better.
Uhh. NO. clyde did not win. as yes yer partially right, Nick No longer makes deals with Scum. But guess what, There's HUNDREDS and maybe even THOUSANDS More Lawyers who also WILL make Deals... For every Lawyer who wont make a Deal, There will ALWAYS be another who WILL make a Deal. What Clyde did was ALL FOR NOTHING. the LAw and Justice system is STILL UP and Running and also, Clyde tore apart some innocent family's. Was Nick the Good guy, No he's Not. But Clyde, he's a MONSTER. Losing his family was Tragic and See the main guy who did it get a reduced sentence, TERRIBLE and HORRIBLE. But that is NO Excuse for Terrorist attacking the city.
Such a great movie, that just really botched up the ending. No way should Nick have outsmarted Clyde. And he ends up learning absolutely nothing.
Personally I would have wanted Clyde's entire plan to run out as planned. And then the very final step would be to put Nick's family in danger, the only chance he had for saving them was to kill Clyde himself, thereby doing what needs to be done. Once Clyde's project was over there was no need for him to keep on living, he'd want to be with his family. And Nick would have to break every principle he believed in to save the ones he loved thereby proving the faults of the system.
This movie is a classic because the interrogation room scene is a lot like Heath Ledger’s joker interrogation where it’s the mentor getting into the head of the apprentice
The power dynamic in that scene and the acting alone made this film worth the watch!
He got naked so the cops will know that he isn't concealing any weapons. Especially after cutting someone into 25 pieces, the cops would consider him extremely dangerous.
I hated the ending. I wanted Clyde to get them all 😆 The Judge scene was something else, wasn't it.
What he did is NOT WRONG!!! what is just and what is legal are two completely different things.he took justice into his own hands.
One person being judge, jury, and executioner is wrong, and just because the legal system is flawed doesn't mean anyone involved with it deserves to be murdered. I swear fans of this movie are psychos.
What he did was definitely wrong. It’s completely understandable, but that doesn’t make it okay. Killing the two that were there wasn’t wrong, but then he killed a bunch of other people who didn’t actually do something wrong to him. Nick I would have understood bc he didn’t even talk to him before he made that deal, or even try, but everyone else was fucked up.
@@mistyxmarlboro He was waiting at any time for Jamie Foxx to learn his lesson and he stubbornly refused. It was sad for the other attorneys but even then Jamie Foxx did not take any responsibility. Not till the end. Clyde smiled because he was satisfied that Foxx finally learned his lesson.
@@jasonaugustine3370 so he killed other people...how is that right? How at that point was he any better than the men who killed his family?
@@mistyxmarlboro I agree.
I have always felt that Clyde was planning on holding himself accountable it's just that Nick uncovered things before he got the chance to do his final act. Clyde knew with all the crimes and murders he committed he was going to die, he wasn't planning on living much longer because there was nothing worth living for. He only lived the last 10 years to show them how messed up the system is and teach Nick the lessons.
Oh I fully understand him getting revenge and I definitely condone it.
Django vs King Leonidis 😂😂
If you look at history, Leonidas was a pedo, a rapist and a slave owner piece of garbage. Basically the opposite of what 300 makes him out to be.
I personally hated this ending and prefer the true end where he succeeded and won. The movie chocked and did a turn around and gave the win to the lawyer undeservedly. its such a anticlimactic ending without a resolution as he up to the end did not change his mind on his corrupted belief of justice, that he uses it as a way for him to win. The change where nick wins makes no since as nick was always 10 steps behind, always refusing to admit his mistake to the ending.
It is indeed very anticlimactic as it does not make sense for Clyde to be so meticulous and successful and just suddenly fail so much like that. In reality it would have taken several sequels before there was a realistic chance Nick could have eventually changed his tactics and attitude and eventually prevailed over Clyde.
Great reaction, ya'll!
But I do need to correct one thing, if I may.
"That's what Matt Murdock is for."
It should've been
"That's what Frank Castle is for."
Chisel Vs. Hammer. Matt decided to go the DD route because he too realizes he can only do so much if he stays within the boundaries of the law. He gets them locked up. Frank gives them the express pass to hell 😅
The injustice in this movie requires a blind justice that MM/DD just can't see.
FC is more eye-for-eye.
That's all my bad jokes against the sight impaired.
I was lucky enough to see this on the Silver Screen in a theater alone.
I cheered out loud with my Dark Humor.
one of my fave Punisher lines was
"killing people is wrong, killing a killer still doesn't change how many killers are in the world"
"yeah, that's why I kill more than one"
Reaaaaly weird reactions guys but love it.
I have never been happier every time Clyde took justice into his own hands. Everything as _justifiable_
Sad about the ending that the villain won...
It never ceases to amaze me that most everyone who watches this movie thinks that Jamie Foxx outsmarted Clyde at the end. Why would someone so meticulous leave a bomb in the middle of a room? He wanted Foxx to find it and hoped he would do the right thing by bringing it to his cell. To do what had to be done meaning he had learned his lesson. Clyde wanted to be with his family again. He got exactly what he wanted
I wouldn't push it that far. The only reason why the bomb was found is because Nick broke the rules twice (illegal investigation concerning Clyde's properties + invasion without a warrant). Clyde's planning was under the assumption that Nick would follow the rules.
This is one of my favorite F. Gary Gray movies. Friday was his directorial debut. He played the guy in the corner store "Man get yo punk-ass up, it ain't even wet over here"😆
Yeah i never understood until i had my son . I Know for a fact sadly, i would be that kinda parent.
I know for a fact i would become that monster if someone hurt or did worst to my child , literally.
You know the therm mama bear ,its more then just protective , you really don't what to hurt someones child or family because justice won't even matter.
In the begining he walked out naked to prevent himself being shot. Hands in the air with no closes on shows he had no hidden weapon. You cannot justify shooting an unarmed man.
happens in real life all the time.
For me, this type of revenge IS justice!
The smug judge karma scene was the best 🤣
"Thats why we've got people like Matt Murdock."
With respect my friend I think this is how guys like Frank Castle are made.
I am REALLY conflicted about this movie. On the one hand, Clyde is an INCREDIBLE antagonist. The performance, the Saw-like planning, the backstory... You're right. You're rooting for this guy for the most part. But then he crosses the line and starts killing everyone who was even peripherally involved with his case and he loses the moral high ground. And then the car bombs just solidify him as a zealot who doesn't care who he hurts to make his point. That's incredible, but the movie kind of lost me right at the end when Nick dismissed the idea of civil rights to break into the warehouse. And then planted the bomb in the cell. He turned into the same kind of zealot Clyde had become, took matters into his own hands and dealt "justice" on the fly. No trial. No judge. Nothing. He had Clyde dead to rights and decided to just off him.
I still love this movie, but it really lost me at the end.
Oh, and that bit with the exploding cell phone is SUCH a good jump scare even though this isn't a horror movie.
Well the issue that bothers you is actually the whole point of the movie.
For real how did you miss the point?
Probably because at the end Nick is never shown acnowledging this. He just walks away and returns to his family. There's never a moment where he truly stops and says to himself "I had to turn into Clyde and abuse the system to stop the killer, working for the system didn't work".
In the same vein you must watch Death Sentence... a 2007 American vigilante action thriller film directed by James Wan and starring Kevin Bacon.
The issue with making the villain win in this film is that it send the wrong message about what real justice is at the end when it spent all the film explaining how that form of justice was justified. They only ended it this way so they wouldn’t be accused of inciting violence otherwise it makes no sense, yes it’s real life and in reality that would probably be the ending but it’s still frustrating and confusing because they also made the ending message is that violence solved violence so that’s an immediate contradiction to what they were trying to say by this subpar ending. Clyide became an extremist because of a corrupt system so you make the corrupt system win ? Come on now 😅😂
On a more positive and less infuriating note, the action was super impactful and made you feel anxious every min during which is what it should do. The acting was also chefs kiss especially by GB .
And as per usual phenomenal reaction and discussion. Love you guys to bits ❤
Would have honestly forgiven the villain winning in any other film except this one 😂
Every time I see this movie I always wonder if he planned for every scenario and every version of that scenario how many branches were set up, but never used? I wonder how many people were still tied up somewhere, unexploded bombs, who knows what waiting for their part that never happened😂
So glad to see you do a reaction to this. One of my absolute favourite Gerard butler movies. And a great story. As always stay amazing
My favorite thing is in the original script the roles were reversed, Jamie was clyde and while filming Gerald suggested they switch
What I like about you guys is you are genuine. A lot of reactors put on an exaggerated front, fake personality, shout/talk over the movie/show/song, etc. You guys are nothing like that. Just chill people who you feel like you’re hanging out with instead of watching react.
Loved this movie, saw it in the theatre. HATED THE ENDING 😡
This fix is simple. At the end all you need is some offscreen dialogu, overheard by the camera, that they didnt find a body in the cell. BAM! FIXED!.
LETS GOOOOO!!! 💪😎💪
Why? Clyde didnt want to live anyway. Even if he did blow up city hall he would get a chair and get his point across
42:42 liquefied Kermit the Frog - He's that ruthless!
🙏Keep it rolling with another Jamie Foxx movie "Collateral" that he did alongside Tom Cruise which earned him an Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor in 2005. I didnt see it in your YT library of reactions content in case you haven't seen it already. Great reaction.👏🏾
One of the most controversial movies, for its ending. When most people agree that Clyde should have won, there's a problem with the system.
There’s a lingering question as to whether Clyde - despite what he claims - is after change or vengeance and the plot of the movie heavily leans towards the latter. This unfortunately hurts Clyde as a character because he’s spoken about as this hyper efficient being at getting things done and his claims in the movie would have you believe that he wants to change the system and hold people accountable. While killing the original perpetrators was a given, it doesn’t make sense to kill anyone else because if they’re dead, they can’t take any accountability.
Worst... ending... ever.
Clyde's character deserved so much better at the end.
The 3rd of act of the movie is where a major rewrite was needed. Nick doesn't ever have a redemption arc or anything in this movie that makes it feel like he's changed by the end. He shows some remorse for his part in not doing enough to serve justice, even recognizing that he was greedy and egocentric to pursue a career over doing good. It would have been more interesting to see him taking steps to correct his past mistakes and actually change.
As for Clyde, he definitely took things too far once his plans started to endanger people who were more innocent than others. But the biggest problem with Clyde is that it got to a point where his story-arc just stalls and his reasonings for continuing are not logical. Sure, killing criminals, corrupt officials, and exposing the system is going to cause demand for change but he's hitting a point where he's becoming more scarier. He's even hit OP mode with how he's able to do all of this stuff like he's Jason Bourne or something.
The ending I would have gone with is that Clyde reaches a realization that he's become a monster in his pursuit to get revenge, instead giving up his plans once Nick finally shows true remorse for his decisions and even acknowledges that he's partially responsible for pushing Clyde down a dark path. Although acknowledging that the system will most likely remain the same, Nick promises to do better and asks for his forgiveness, which Clyde gives. Clyde confesses to his actions and is put on death row, while Nick is the only one there for his execution. Afterward, Nick represents a family who lost a child and decides to pursue the case forward, despite knowing that the chances of winning are low.
I fucking LOVE this move! The ONLY thing I would change is the ending:
Nick's daughter ends her recital, and suddenly BOOM! She gets shot or blown up and dies.
The camera pans to the look of horror on Nick's face and...fade to black. THE END.
Ahhh, that would've been AWESOME!
consider therapy
Thats stupid ASF, and completely deaf and blind of Butler's character and motivation the whole movie.
That's stupid asf and completely blind and deaf of Butler's character and motive the whole movie.
Her reacting to him sharing his mac and cheese 😂
What i love about this channel is how long the reactions are. Even though they can't show all the minutes of the movies, they show enough to give you the whole picture of the movie and feel like you aren't missing out on key moments in the movie.
OMG, I was just thinking "you need to watch this Movie" and here we go. 🤩😄👍
Love you Guys. ❤ Greetings from Germany
My all time favourite revenge movie!! ✊❤
The fact that Jamie has all those deaths on his conscience because he wanted 96% conviction rate how could you live with your self
One of my all time favorite movies. The premise, the acting, the action, all executed perfectly.
this is such a great movie. the acting is amazing and i really appreciate how they portray our broken justice system. on a comical note though, i love jamie foxx, but every time i see him act i still have flashbacks of him as wanda wayne from in living color 😋 thanks again for the amazing content. you guys rock!
Fun Fact: The ending was originally different but Jamie Foxx didn't like that Clyde(the bad guy in Jamie Foxx's mind)won. So he refused to shoot the ending unless they changed it. Which is why a man who was so smart he was designing assassinations for the government got outsmarted and taken down by a New York prosecutor.
This movie represents the lengths a man would go to avenge his family. I love it. The dedication and commitment Butler had to his family honor is relatable.
It's actually a huge compliment to the film that we truly understood Clyde and his rage and grief - he received no closure or justice, nothing to ease his pain. Imagine having to live with that for years??
@@OfficialMediaKnights The look on his face after he sees Nick shake hands with Darby explains it all. Gerard Butler's a pretty versatile actor having seen him in this and "300" and "The Ugly Truth." I'd like to see him in a period piece one of these days, unless he's already been in one and I'm not aware of it.
Saw the notification and i was like oh this is gonna be a good one for the reaction. With that being said amazing movie and reaction thank you guys. ☺️
YES! My fav reactors reacting to one of my favs! This movie solidified Viola Davis as my fav actress. The small role she had was so powerful. The way she stared down Jamie Foxx after saying "What I should do is fire you." Whew! Goosebumps!!! Also, Jamie and Gerard has such great chemistry! F. Gary Gray is an underrated director. You guys should check out his films "The Negotiator" and "Set It Off" if you haven't seen them 👍🏽👍🏽
Loved this one
I think he Did hold himself accountable in the end . . his smile when he said finally, I have always had the feeling he had Something planned but never got to go through with it
Interesting! Would’ve loved to see what he had planned for himself. Could’ve been a cool scene, after Clyde’s death they find a manifesto or something!
Interstellar next please 🙏🏽
@wahidnazari96 already watched that one man! Sorry 😕 It’s actually one of our favorite films ever
Imagine John Kramer aka. Jigsaw from Saw, the OG, who is the only one that will punish Ben Rice, break him, make him suffer and admit his guilt or sin for what he did 10 years ago out of selfishness, ignorance, hypocrisy, and inconsideration for getting a high conviction rate and not helping an innocent man like Clyde Shelton get justice for him and his family.
But he will not kill him.
Yup! He would’ve been the type of person Jigsaw would’ve set his eyes on for his masterplan 😂
Such a amazing film, the first bit after Darby when Jamie thinks it's all easy and the power switch to Gerald is absolutely insane, you can literally feel it move across the rooms 🎉
This is one of my favorite revenge movies. Clyde goes absolutely scorched earth
Another fun crime/thriller for you would be “Inside Man”. Denzel Washington, Clive Owen, Jodie Foster, Willem Dafoe, directed by Spike Lee. It’s loaded with great acting and plot.
Thank you for the suggestion! Really enjoyed the vibe of this one so we’re loving the crime/thriller recommendations 😄
You guys might enjoy Collateral with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise. Really enjoy your reactions ❤
Great recommendation, thank you so much! Definitely adding it to our list!
Fun fact: Originally Jamie Foxx through casting was supposed to play Gerard Butler's character but Foxx really pushed to swap roles and the director and producers agreed. Which acting wise was obviously the better choice for their roles. Love your all's reactions. ❤
"That's why we have people like Matt Murdock, man" That's why we have people like the Punisher! lol In my book this movie is literally the best take on the Punisher I've ever seen. Just Great. Put a Skull face on his chest and he's it.
He basically went full Dexter on that guy in the beginning. Great watch guys keep up the kickers work!
He made sure that dude suffered! Thank you for watching this with us ❤️
wait this isnt Cloverfield Paradox
Nope! It’ll be coming soon though 😄
@@OfficialMediaKnights wooooooo
I ADORE this movie because it highlights so many critical issues in the justice system that people never think about. Wish it was a requirement for anyone involved in the justice system to watch it.
The one-track revenge ethic in this film reminds me of Benicio del Toro's character in 'Sicario', but on the other side of the law.
Btw, considering your love for Gerald Butler, I highly recommend the "Has Fallen" series:
Olympus has Fallen
London has Fallen
Angel has Fallen
Genuinely fun movies
Only the end is disappointing. It would have been the perfect movie had he gotten away with it 100% and Jamie Foxx had actually lost everything instead like Gerard Butler had. Sadly Hollywood likes happy endings when most of life is not actually like that!
Agreed! They kinda needed to write that ending in so that they wouldn’t “send the wrong message” but seeing how capable Clyde was it’s really hard to believe he would’ve gone out that way 😅
Nice! I discovered your channel a few months ago and loved it from the very beginning. But after watching many videos, I started to think that you celebrate every movie you watch without criticizing at all.
But now I know that you are also able to criticize. Keep up your great work!
Interesting castings of supporting roles in this film. # 1 Bruce McGill ( Jonas) earliest film was 1978 National Lampoon's Animal House as D-Day. # 2 Christian Stolte ( evil killer Clarence Darby) who stars as the beloved character Mouch on the long-running NBC series Chicago Fire. # 3 Academy Award winner Viola Davis as the blunt Mayor of Philadelphia ( small role but memorable)
Back when this movie came out I thought it was outlandish and nothing like this could happen. With the way lenient laws are going right now it’s only a matter of time until something like this happens.