I am own Prado and Moved to Tank 500 : My review : 1. Big Bonnet - same as Prado in 500. I love the feeling. 2. Electric 3rd row Seats -> Same speed as prado. No difference 3. Third row space. , my wife sits in last 5.10. She is happy with space. But with prado its very tight 4. Small Mirror - Agree 5. Price New Prado top model 120k vs tank 500 I got in 67K top Model. even after 7 year I can sell between 30-35K. I feel Value for Money 6. features - far far better than my Prado
While most people think hybrid = fuel saving, GWM explicitly stated that the electric motor's main purpose is to enhance power which it does significantly I think. You made very valid points here.
The hybrid system is for skating around the upcoming fuel efficiency laws, it is how the manufacturers get around developing decent engines. It is not just the Chinese pulling this stunt.
Lots of theories mate. To an average consumer these days "Hybrid = Economy". Yes, they have succeeded at marketing this campaign. Then there are more educated people who say Hybrid = More Power. And then there's a very narrow niche, aka your kind self, who look at an even less visible reason for this BS.
The relatively poor fuel efficiency of the 500 HEV is why I have zero interest in it. However the incoming 500 PHEV with 2 l/100km and around 80-100 km on EV mode makes it very interesting… if the new Prado had PHEV with this performance it’d be a no-brainer, unfortunately the Japanese stopped being innovative years ago.
You should check the TANK 500’s in the Middle East to try out the V6’s and see if it’s a major difference. I’m truly interested. But now with the new Haval H9 I am weighing out the pros and cons between the two.
Great to see some honest opinions about it. I currently have an LDV D90 diesel which I have enjoyed, but the lease ends early next year and now considering options for a new vehicle. The T500 is in the mix, along with the new Prado, and Y62/63 Patrol. Even the D90 has a new model out later this year, so I'm keeping an open mind on my options. My D90 does everything offroad I need and gets 8-9L/100 with mix of highway/urban driving. I feel the 500 is significantly less efficient, even with its so-called hybrid function. With the 3rd row down, how do you find the boot storage space in the 500 compared to D90?
Hello mate, thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerations. I personally thought LDV D90 third row of seats and the boot area were larger and more usable than what I've (quickly) seen in Tank 500, but you'd do well to take a ruler and go to your local GWM dealership to confirm, as I imagine that rear space is important to you? If you were happy with LDV D90, why not stay with it and just get another one? Prado would be significantly more expensive in repayments, plus you might have to wait (forever?) for delivery, I'm not sure if Toyota caught up with their delivery commitments but I doubt it.
in my opinion there is one more thing need to be mentioned... the ac performance is not as expected apexially here my country Saudi Arabia compared to Toyota cars. do you agree ?
I think the new D90 arriving soon will be a very SUV. These 2LT Petrol engines are too small and inefficient to push a large heavy vehicle they will not last long will need replacement after a fill years
For 70k its not in the cheap / value for money segment. Off road users would be better looking at the established Isuzu MUX or even Pajero Sport for that price point. Those are reliable but not really status symbols. The problem is while trying to be classy and luxurious- the Tank 500 just doesn't old the same brand recognition as the likes of Toyota. The Cannon Ute by contrast is not a status symbol either but at around 40k its much more budget friendly. I don't really see what kind of consumer with 70k to spare would pick a GWM Tank 500. At least the Tank 300 is arguably a fun, slightly larger version of the Jimny suited for adventurous younger couples without families etc. Anyway lets see how the Tank 500 sells.
I am not willing to pay a single extra dollar just for the brand name.. if the GWM Tank 500 proves itself to be reliable, I would choose it over a Toyota Land Cruiser 300..
The diesel doesn’t meet the Australian standards,we will see many more car manufacturers going down this route as well Look at the new prado coming out
I wonder how different is it, really? Just a skin, or an actual resizing and remapping of different elements? My Haval H6 also had 2 different skins that were basically the same.
1. Rear view mirror too small 2. Dislikes central instruments cluster, but great while 4WD 3. 3rd row of seats not very practical & boot size not as impressive as many competitors. 4. Electronic folding 3rd row of seats slow, but fun to play with. 5. Not acceptable to give only HEV version to Australia - and not a diesel or petrol-only - especially considering they compete with Toyota. Author feels this should be a choice. 6. Long bonnet / nose limits frontal visibility compared to jeep and land cruiser 7. Hybrid model doesn’t save gas. (According to comments - GWM have said their hybrid isn’t made to save gas, it’s for power)
can't agree more, why gwm put the 3rd row to this car? its totally useless. gwm should cut the 3rd row, save some cost and upgrade the centre mirror to a digital one
The 3rd row is what made me look in to this car, and ultimately buy it. The big market for 3rd row seating is the occasional usage with kids or uncomfortable adults (i'm 6 foot and i sat in the 3rd row, it is not bad, and it is definitely okay for 30-45 minute drive). Typically we will only use 5 seats and the trunk space, however, the odd times when we need that 3rd row will definitely come up, and that's when those times will count the most. A roof rack has been installed for those situations, incase we need to put luggage or other stuff there while all 7 seats are used. TLDR - if this was a 5 seater, it would have been thrown in the same category as other 5 seaters, and families looking for 3rd row SUV's (like mine) would have filtered that out immediately.
It's a good car but I thought it would represent higher value once it arrives on our shores. At the moment it's looking "okay" but not amazing by a long shot.
I did a long test drive the other day. On-road experience in general is pretty good. The handling is actually great. However, everything inside feels BUSY and Distractive (busier than the plane I fly lol). The lane keep doesn't work well at all so do not rely on it pls. The transmission at low speed is very noticeably thumpy (hence not sure about the longevity of the transmission after all the off road abuse). Fuel consumption in city is about 15L+/100km which is even worse than my 15 year old supercharged Toyota V8... I don't think the 2.0L engine is going to last given it's over stressed to pull such a huge car while hauling a heavy battery + motor. Another big concern is the depreciation. Some dealerships are already offering almost 5k discount off the bat. Soon as they drop another model or when other Chinese models arrive in 2025 the resale value of the car just vanishes. (Hence if anyone can hold, wait to buy second hand in 2025) Oh another note I saw from the forum (10,000 km owner experience) the windscreen is not very durable at all and hard to come by.
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I am own Prado and Moved to Tank 500 : My review :
1. Big Bonnet - same as Prado in 500. I love the feeling.
2. Electric 3rd row Seats -> Same speed as prado. No difference
3. Third row space. , my wife sits in last 5.10. She is happy with space. But with prado its very tight
4. Small Mirror - Agree
5. Price New Prado top model 120k vs tank 500 I got in 67K top Model. even after 7 year I can sell between 30-35K. I feel Value for Money
6. features - far far better than my Prado
Great to hear from someone who actually drove a Toyota and changed it for Tank, thanks for sharing your experience
@@ernishant13 . I am considering a Tank 300 instead of a third new Prado . I am not a diesel fan
While most people think hybrid = fuel saving, GWM explicitly stated that the electric motor's main purpose is to enhance power which it does significantly I think. You made very valid points here.
This might be very fair, but the problem is - this is not what general folk that doesn't read press releases thinks
Thanks mate the update mate we are looking into the 500 and the extra set of eyes looking over these things is nice to know.
Glad to hear someone appreciates it
The hybrid system is for skating around the upcoming fuel efficiency laws, it is how the manufacturers get around developing decent engines. It is not just the Chinese pulling this stunt.
Lots of theories mate. To an average consumer these days "Hybrid = Economy". Yes, they have succeeded at marketing this campaign. Then there are more educated people who say Hybrid = More Power. And then there's a very narrow niche, aka your kind self, who look at an even less visible reason for this BS.
i think the hybrid system on both 300 and 500 is not to save fuel but an extra power to move all that weight
Possibly, that too but typically buyers would first think that Hybrid = Economy
@@ValueCarsAU i know i did till i looked all the videos out there and found out
@@ValueCarsAU i went to the showroom in dubai , and they say it honestly the hybrid is not for fuel economy, its just for more power.
500 Hi4T ( PHEV) would be better, but cost more. Bigger battery and more power. good for camping when you got a bigger battery to run the cooker etc.
hmm I don't think we have those in Australia, unfortunately. Only HEV.
The relatively poor fuel efficiency of the 500 HEV is why I have zero interest in it.
However the incoming 500 PHEV with 2 l/100km and around 80-100 km on EV mode makes it very interesting… if the new Prado had PHEV with this performance it’d be a no-brainer, unfortunately the Japanese stopped being innovative years ago.
You should check the TANK 500’s in the Middle East to try out the V6’s and see if it’s a major difference. I’m truly interested. But now with the new Haval H9 I am weighing out the pros and cons between the two.
When is H9 coming to Aussie market??
Great to see some honest opinions about it. I currently have an LDV D90 diesel which I have enjoyed, but the lease ends early next year and now considering options for a new vehicle. The T500 is in the mix, along with the new Prado, and Y62/63 Patrol. Even the D90 has a new model out later this year, so I'm keeping an open mind on my options.
My D90 does everything offroad I need and gets 8-9L/100 with mix of highway/urban driving. I feel the 500 is significantly less efficient, even with its so-called hybrid function. With the 3rd row down, how do you find the boot storage space in the 500 compared to D90?
Hello mate, thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerations. I personally thought LDV D90 third row of seats and the boot area were larger and more usable than what I've (quickly) seen in Tank 500, but you'd do well to take a ruler and go to your local GWM dealership to confirm, as I imagine that rear space is important to you? If you were happy with LDV D90, why not stay with it and just get another one? Prado would be significantly more expensive in repayments, plus you might have to wait (forever?) for delivery, I'm not sure if Toyota caught up with their delivery commitments but I doubt it.
in my opinion there is one more thing need to be mentioned... the ac performance is not as expected apexially here my country Saudi Arabia compared to Toyota cars. do you agree ?
Interesting point, thanks for adding it - I haven't driven T500 long enough to have any view on the AC performance, I'm sorry
@@mohdforever007 Speaking of AC performance. Denso is the best.
I think the new D90 arriving soon will be a very SUV.
These 2LT Petrol engines are too small and inefficient to push a large heavy vehicle they will not last long will need replacement after a fill years
I agree on the weak 2L petrol engines and will definitely have a close look at the new D90 when it's available
For 70k its not in the cheap / value for money segment. Off road users would be better looking at the established Isuzu MUX or even Pajero Sport for that price point. Those are reliable but not really status symbols. The problem is while trying to be classy and luxurious- the Tank 500 just doesn't old the same brand recognition as the likes of Toyota. The Cannon Ute by contrast is not a status symbol either but at around 40k its much more budget friendly. I don't really see what kind of consumer with 70k to spare would pick a GWM Tank 500. At least the Tank 300 is arguably a fun, slightly larger version of the Jimny suited for adventurous younger couples without families etc. Anyway lets see how the Tank 500 sells.
Generally, I agree with everything you said.
I am not willing to pay a single extra dollar just for the brand name.. if the GWM Tank 500 proves itself to be reliable, I would choose it over a Toyota Land Cruiser 300..
The diesel doesn’t meet the Australian standards,we will see many more car manufacturers going down this route as well
Look at the new prado coming out
I most likely will. And the Australian standards are adjusted just to make more money on the new energy initiatives, not because "they are better".
What about the woeful Haval ELKA and dangerous Adaptive Cruise Control?
I haven't driven T500 long enough to honestly hand on heart say if it's the same system mate, this is why it's not mentioned
Dash ,can be adjusted to another screen
I wonder how different is it, really? Just a skin, or an actual resizing and remapping of different elements? My Haval H6 also had 2 different skins that were basically the same.
Are you testing the sealion6?
If I find a BYD dealership nearby.
1. Rear view mirror too small
2. Dislikes central instruments cluster, but great while 4WD
3. 3rd row of seats not very practical & boot size not as impressive as many competitors.
4. Electronic folding 3rd row of seats slow, but fun to play with.
5. Not acceptable to give only HEV version to Australia - and not a diesel or petrol-only - especially considering they compete with Toyota. Author feels this should be a choice.
6. Long bonnet / nose limits frontal visibility compared to jeep and land cruiser
7. Hybrid model doesn’t save gas. (According to comments - GWM have said their hybrid isn’t made to save gas, it’s for power)
thanks god, you were not the designer! i totally disagree with you.
🤷 you're allowed to disagree 😂
Oh c'mon, I'm first? Nah, I'm not that lucky. Damnit.
lol time to go buy that lotto ticket mate
Diesel is my preference.
I've never owned a diesel vehicle but generally hearing good things about those!
can't agree more, why gwm put the 3rd row to this car? its totally useless. gwm should cut the 3rd row, save some cost and upgrade the centre mirror to a digital one
Yep, my thoughts exactly
The 3rd row is what made me look in to this car, and ultimately buy it. The big market for 3rd row seating is the occasional usage with kids or uncomfortable adults (i'm 6 foot and i sat in the 3rd row, it is not bad, and it is definitely okay for 30-45 minute drive). Typically we will only use 5 seats and the trunk space, however, the odd times when we need that 3rd row will definitely come up, and that's when those times will count the most. A roof rack has been installed for those situations, incase we need to put luggage or other stuff there while all 7 seats are used.
TLDR - if this was a 5 seater, it would have been thrown in the same category as other 5 seaters, and families looking for 3rd row SUV's (like mine) would have filtered that out immediately.
Must agree, not very impressed
It's a good car but I thought it would represent higher value once it arrives on our shores. At the moment it's looking "okay" but not amazing by a long shot.
I did a long test drive the other day. On-road experience in general is pretty good. The handling is actually great.
However, everything inside feels BUSY and Distractive (busier than the plane I fly lol). The lane keep doesn't work well at all so do not rely on it pls. The transmission at low speed is very noticeably thumpy (hence not sure about the longevity of the transmission after all the off road abuse). Fuel consumption in city is about 15L+/100km which is even worse than my 15 year old supercharged Toyota V8... I don't think the 2.0L engine is going to last given it's over stressed to pull such a huge car while hauling a heavy battery + motor.
Another big concern is the depreciation. Some dealerships are already offering almost 5k discount off the bat. Soon as they drop another model or when other Chinese models arrive in 2025 the resale value of the car just vanishes. (Hence if anyone can hold, wait to buy second hand in 2025)
Oh another note I saw from the forum (10,000 km owner experience) the windscreen is not very durable at all and hard to come by.