While most people think hybrid = fuel saving, GWM explicitly stated that the electric motor's main purpose is to enhance power which it does significantly I think. You made very valid points here.
The hybrid system is for skating around the upcoming fuel efficiency laws, it is how the manufacturers get around developing decent engines. It is not just the Chinese pulling this stunt.
Lots of theories mate. To an average consumer these days "Hybrid = Economy". Yes, they have succeeded at marketing this campaign. Then there are more educated people who say Hybrid = More Power. And then there's a very narrow niche, aka your kind self, who look at an even less visible reason for this BS.
For 70k its not in the cheap / value for money segment. Off road users would be better looking at the established Isuzu MUX or even Pajero Sport for that price point. Those are reliable but not really status symbols. The problem is while trying to be classy and luxurious- the Tank 500 just doesn't old the same brand recognition as the likes of Toyota. The Cannon Ute by contrast is not a status symbol either but at around 40k its much more budget friendly. I don't really see what kind of consumer with 70k to spare would pick a GWM Tank 500. At least the Tank 300 is arguably a fun, slightly larger version of the Jimny suited for adventurous younger couples without families etc. Anyway lets see how the Tank 500 sells.
I think the new D90 arriving soon will be a very SUV. These 2LT Petrol engines are too small and inefficient to push a large heavy vehicle they will not last long will need replacement after a fill years
Great to see some honest opinions about it. I currently have an LDV D90 diesel which I have enjoyed, but the lease ends early next year and now considering options for a new vehicle. The T500 is in the mix, along with the new Prado, and Y62/63 Patrol. Even the D90 has a new model out later this year, so I'm keeping an open mind on my options. My D90 does everything offroad I need and gets 8-9L/100 with mix of highway/urban driving. I feel the 500 is significantly less efficient, even with its so-called hybrid function. With the 3rd row down, how do you find the boot storage space in the 500 compared to D90?
Hello mate, thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerations. I personally thought LDV D90 third row of seats and the boot area were larger and more usable than what I've (quickly) seen in Tank 500, but you'd do well to take a ruler and go to your local GWM dealership to confirm, as I imagine that rear space is important to you? If you were happy with LDV D90, why not stay with it and just get another one? Prado would be significantly more expensive in repayments, plus you might have to wait (forever?) for delivery, I'm not sure if Toyota caught up with their delivery commitments but I doubt it.
in my opinion there is one more thing need to be mentioned... the ac performance is not as expected apexially here my country Saudi Arabia compared to Toyota cars. do you agree ?
I wonder how different is it, really? Just a skin, or an actual resizing and remapping of different elements? My Haval H6 also had 2 different skins that were basically the same.
The diesel doesn’t meet the Australian standards,we will see many more car manufacturers going down this route as well Look at the new prado coming out
While most people think hybrid = fuel saving, GWM explicitly stated that the electric motor's main purpose is to enhance power which it does significantly I think. You made very valid points here.
This might be very fair, but the problem is - this is not what general folk that doesn't read press releases thinks
Thanks mate the update mate we are looking into the 500 and the extra set of eyes looking over these things is nice to know.
Glad to hear someone appreciates it
i think the hybrid system on both 300 and 500 is not to save fuel but an extra power to move all that weight
Possibly, that too but typically buyers would first think that Hybrid = Economy
@@ValueCarsAU i know i did till i looked all the videos out there and found out
The hybrid system is for skating around the upcoming fuel efficiency laws, it is how the manufacturers get around developing decent engines. It is not just the Chinese pulling this stunt.
Lots of theories mate. To an average consumer these days "Hybrid = Economy". Yes, they have succeeded at marketing this campaign. Then there are more educated people who say Hybrid = More Power. And then there's a very narrow niche, aka your kind self, who look at an even less visible reason for this BS.
For 70k its not in the cheap / value for money segment. Off road users would be better looking at the established Isuzu MUX or even Pajero Sport for that price point. Those are reliable but not really status symbols. The problem is while trying to be classy and luxurious- the Tank 500 just doesn't old the same brand recognition as the likes of Toyota. The Cannon Ute by contrast is not a status symbol either but at around 40k its much more budget friendly. I don't really see what kind of consumer with 70k to spare would pick a GWM Tank 500. At least the Tank 300 is arguably a fun, slightly larger version of the Jimny suited for adventurous younger couples without families etc. Anyway lets see how the Tank 500 sells.
Generally, I agree with everything you said.
500 Hi4T ( PHEV) would be better, but cost more. Bigger battery and more power. good for camping when you got a bigger battery to run the cooker etc.
hmm I don't think we have those in Australia, unfortunately. Only HEV.
I think the new D90 arriving soon will be a very SUV.
These 2LT Petrol engines are too small and inefficient to push a large heavy vehicle they will not last long will need replacement after a fill years
I agree on the weak 2L petrol engines and will definitely have a close look at the new D90 when it's available
Great to see some honest opinions about it. I currently have an LDV D90 diesel which I have enjoyed, but the lease ends early next year and now considering options for a new vehicle. The T500 is in the mix, along with the new Prado, and Y62/63 Patrol. Even the D90 has a new model out later this year, so I'm keeping an open mind on my options.
My D90 does everything offroad I need and gets 8-9L/100 with mix of highway/urban driving. I feel the 500 is significantly less efficient, even with its so-called hybrid function. With the 3rd row down, how do you find the boot storage space in the 500 compared to D90?
Hello mate, thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerations. I personally thought LDV D90 third row of seats and the boot area were larger and more usable than what I've (quickly) seen in Tank 500, but you'd do well to take a ruler and go to your local GWM dealership to confirm, as I imagine that rear space is important to you? If you were happy with LDV D90, why not stay with it and just get another one? Prado would be significantly more expensive in repayments, plus you might have to wait (forever?) for delivery, I'm not sure if Toyota caught up with their delivery commitments but I doubt it.
in my opinion there is one more thing need to be mentioned... the ac performance is not as expected apexially here my country Saudi Arabia compared to Toyota cars. do you agree ?
Interesting point, thanks for adding it - I haven't driven T500 long enough to have any view on the AC performance, I'm sorry
@@mohdforever007 Speaking of AC performance. Denso is the best.
Dash ,can be adjusted to another screen
I wonder how different is it, really? Just a skin, or an actual resizing and remapping of different elements? My Haval H6 also had 2 different skins that were basically the same.
The diesel doesn’t meet the Australian standards,we will see many more car manufacturers going down this route as well
Look at the new prado coming out
I most likely will. And the Australian standards are adjusted just to make more money on the new energy initiatives, not because "they are better".
What about the woeful Haval ELKA and dangerous Adaptive Cruise Control?
I haven't driven T500 long enough to honestly hand on heart say if it's the same system mate, this is why it's not mentioned
Are you testing the sealion6?
If I find a BYD dealership nearby.
Diesel is my preference.
I've never owned a diesel vehicle but generally hearing good things about those!
Oh c'mon, I'm first? Nah, I'm not that lucky. Damnit.
lol time to go buy that lotto ticket mate
thanks god, you were not the designer! i totally disagree with you.
🤷 you're allowed to disagree 😂