It's hard for me to feel sorry for this women. He had three kids with three other women when they met. He wasn't taking care of them already and she thought it was a good idea to have TWO kids with him.
@@anotherseoulnative8781 I agree with both comments here but I still feel bad for her. Nice people are always at risk for being overly trusting. Hopefully it’s a lesson learned and they can fix this horrible mess.
She didn't know. I once dated a guy that had 4 kids (3 moms). I had no idea until his friend told me 6 months later!! He talked about "wanting kids." I think some guys think,"If she has my child, she won't leave me."
Patrick not defending the guy.. but also throwing the woman under the bus here for her TERRIBLE taste in men and in that sense, she’s as much of a useless person
@@srgodwin1962 more accurately her poor mental state. Healthy people don't walk into these types of situations and they definitely don't stay in them. - but Dave never tells people to get divorced...
@@srgodwin1962that's exactly right. She knows she made the wrong choice with him, choosing him. And having 2 extra kids knowing he already has 3 with zero income. Sorry but she's an idiot. That's called a short-bus gold digger.
@@luisasterioquerubin6829 her fault. I have more empathy for the first wife. This woman knew who he was before she brought 2 more innocent children into this world.
He actually has five children he is not taking care of. Three previous children that he is supposed to be paying support and now two with his wife, that’s five children and he’s not out earning a decent living.
If I was on a first date with a guy and found out he had 3 children by 3 different women, I'd walk out immediately and not waste a second more of my time. Why this woman decided he was some sort of catch and MARRIED him, I literally do not understand.
her husband got game. Not only did he get her to marry him and have two babies, but he is trying to get his wife to pay off his child support for the other three kids
She did not pick him, he picked her. Losers like him are very skilled at targeting vulnerable women and making them believe that they don’t deserve someone better than him. She’s responsible for her own decisions, but I have a great deal of sympathy for the way she has been taken advantage of.
After fathering 5 children from 4 different women, owing an insane amount of back child support and sitting on his duff, there's like no chance this guy is changing his behavior.
Except he's providing childcare for her currently and we already know he doesn't pay child support so divorce isn't going to help her until she gets her income up
eli soopu why? I don’t the problem is that he has a child. The issue is he has a pattern of having children with multiple women and not taking care of them. I dated a man with a daughter and she wasn’t an issue at all.
@@eamcbmsc one child can not be compared to three by 3 women miss Kim, we can all date someone with a kid but 3 diverse kids is a crimson red flag, what is so special about you that three baby mamas couldnt be kept for, and just the expenses should be a concern too, that man is complete before you come, he has kids and women what is your role that others could not fulfill
I was thinking there's more to landscape business than mowing lawns. Had a friend that included window washing, and power washing. Hubby is a moocher. She needs to say good-bye
I agree the guys a bum but at this point 58k in back support+ keeping up with the current payments is almost impossible. He needs to get a job and needs to talk to a lawyer to see how he can fix this. Yes lady you made a bad call marrying this man.
I remember listening to this when it was fresh. I played it for my daughter and said listen to the pain in her voice. I said to make good choices or you may feel like her. My heart breaks for her.
I've told younger people this story. A girl I know got married young, to an irresponsible guy. They had two sons. She got very ill and died. The kids were little. I say If you are considering having children with someone, ask yourself this question. If I die, will he/she do a good job raising our child? If you don't feel 100% secure about that then don't have a child with that person. Because it can and does happen.
No doubt his desire to be a “business owner” is so that he can claim he’s not working and therefore not have child support automatically deducted from his check every week 🙄
agree with you, 💯👌👍👏 if he doesn't have documented income child support won't follow up on the case until he does. live in tx, owed $20,000 ncp is self-employed and he won't report his info. to them so no follow-up action.
This is exactly what I thought while listening to the call. He probably only accepts cash for his landscaping “business,” which will mean that his client base will inevitably be smaller. When other companies take checks/etc, there is no incentive for anyone to choose him for the work they need done. If he were to try to open a bank account, his funds would be garnished pretty quickly. He is fully aware of this and is actively avoiding it.
She chose to make babies with a man who owed THREE other women for child support. Unless he tricked her, she let feelings override logic. He is a loser, but if women avoided losers, they wouldn't give losers the opportunity to make these messes. I wish them the best, but women, we can't play the victim when we knowingly choose a loser.
He must of had a real slick talk because ain’t no way in this world I would have married or even dated him. God himself would of had to come down from heaven and sit in front of my face and tell me to marry him.
yep, even as a guy i would not marry someone with a child/kids. its a tough life ahead for them, economically and emotionally, and the lady deserves better. why would someone who has been so careful with her life marry a careless person
@@jellybeans9283 yep, and a lot of people use that excuse these days, it means they never have to make the effort to change and they get so much sympathy and attention, especially on social media. you cant be 25+ talking about your childhood memories
I can’t imagine why any woman would have children with a man who already has three he’s not supporting. That’s who you chose as the father of your children? She’s a huge part of the problem as well. Dave was way more kind than I’d have been. No free pass in this situation.
1. You can't "debt snowball" child support. 2. He's sitting home avoiding wage garnishment while his wife supports him and all 5 of his kids. 3. He needs to get snipped.
@@angelbear_og most pay their employees with cash, jobs like this, bartending, waitressing etc. don't get w-2's. the worker just has to keep records of their pay to file their taxes, the owner is responsible for filing their business returns. it's much easier for him than working at mc donalds etc. where he knows they will be notified right away.
She sounds like she's about to have a breakdown at any minute during this entire call. What a defeated woman- withering away to a husk for $17 an hour so that she can support two kids that mean more to her than anything else... and a huge bum.
He is being kind because this poor woman is trying to figure out how to properly support kids that aren’t her responsibility while also carrying his dead weight. She has no debt of her own to speak of, or it’s in the mid four figures.
I experienced the same thing with my ex-husband. He decided at 55 to become a professional actor without a day job. He still owed child support for 2 of his 3 kids. It left up to me to support the household and from the beginning I told him that I did not make enough money to do that. The pressure eventually took it's toll on my health and I was diagnosed with Lupus and Fibromyalgia. In the end I had to make a choice between him and my health. I chose my health and left him after 3 years of putting up with his lack of support.
She needs to cut her losses and leave NOW before he talks her into having another baby to keep her with him making HIS payments for him. She is raising/supporting SIX children AND herself. Their two, his three and HIM!! The biggest baby of them all.
i dont believe there can be a full recovery from this, no matter what route the lady takes, unless the guy finds a genie and wishes for his transformation
Eli Soopu - Very true!! She's his FOURTH baby maker and no end in sight and she is being made to carry it all. Not her responsibility to carry HIM, their TWO and all of HIS kids by 3 others!!
It's amazing what people are accepting just to be not alone. After nearly 30 years of an unhappy marriage (4 kids) I requested a divorce (2017). Now I know that I was more alone during my unhappy marriage then today. I am finally free again. Every day is now my day! What a relief.
@@RedWolfenstein She's employed and concerned about not only her own kids but her husband's kids from a previous relationship... She's definitely not as messed up as him.
Listening to those podcasts…. My final conclusion is: being single is the best solution. It keeps you away of problems or people who bring problems. 👍🏼
She already is. Shes the bread winner, calling dave to help pay for his 3 other kids while raising their 2 kids... meanwhile he is on the prowl for the 5th baby mama
Serious question: why would you marry a broke person that has 3 kids with 3 different people, and still have 2 kids with that person?? yes there's love and all but I mean, when you meeting someone you have to project how you're life will look like with that person as well
He was a loser before she got pregnant by him, which I am guessing preceded the marriage. So she's definitely a loser, he could be either a loser or a user, or more likely both. I'm sure Dave knows that better than anyone, but telling her that to a national audience isn't going to solve anything.
He should have worn condoms. Perhaps the mothers of his children told him they were taking BCPs. Unfortunately, some women look at child birth as a career (child support, entrapment or welfare is guaranteed).
@@khalidmohamed5988 No where. It just never existed and is a childish notion. You can love someone with all of your heart and have radical differences of opinions in finances, child rearing, religion, politics, etc. that causes insurmountable problems in your relationship. You can also love someone that is abusive or has a lot of baggage and that makes the relationship intolerable. Life happens despite silly fairy tail slogans.
"He got his license revoked"... Oy. I had been thinking he could do uber when the kids are in school without giving up his business until I heard that. 🤦♀️
Why would you "reward" a guy like this, with known character issues... by not only marrying him but having more children with him. Wow, unbelievable. Once she found out his true character (or the lack thereof) she should have snow-balled the heck out of there.
💯👌👍👏 with the marriage, believe his plan was to have the debt attached to her. if you file a joint tax return, it can be taken to settle the debt owed.
"Should" has nothing to do with it. This guy is a genius at taking advantage of young, naive women, either sheltered or neglected. Like other posters have said, he probably had the allure of a "project", which many young women fall for for some reason. A lot of parents seem to be failing their daughters badly in giving them guidance about men.
Exactly. The guy is the sailed ship. He was born a loser and will die as a loser. I’m not worried about him. My concern is her. She’s the problem in this whole chaos. How desperate and stupid can she be to marry a bottom feeder like him?🤦🏻♀️
Leila Adams My guess is that, since they have 2 children together, and she said they are both in school, so kids are grown. That means they have been married for a while. My guess is that when they got married he was working, and looked like a nice guy to get married to. Otherwise he would be a lot more than 58k in the hole for 3 children.
@@thiagocaproniny Doesn't matter. Never marry someone with 3 kids from 3 separate people. Even 1 kid is a lot more trouble than most people bargain for. Can't even imagine 3 kids with 3 separate baby mamas
Dave really handled this with gentleness for the sake of that poor woman. It’s nice to see him noticing the person and not just the problem that needs to be tackled ❤
Not getting alimony from Mr Wonderful is not her problem. It is the debt he has amassed by spreading his seed that spells trouble. It is trouble he can take with him as he walks out the door. She will not be the only woman raising 2 children on her own. The 4 women can form a coffee clutch and talk about how lucky they are without him.
Exactly! It is his fault for sure, but what kind of a woman marries a man with three kids who all have different mothers 🤔 And then have MORE kids with him 🤦🏻♀️
I've seen this before. He can't see himself with a menial job. If he can't find a job worthy of him, then he needs to take a good, long look in the mirror at who he really is. He seems to be ashamed of what he sees so he tells himself that he's "working" toward a goal. That inability to see himself will lead to a deficit for everyone involved. Sometimes we just have to get through the hard times even when we don't like what we see in the mirror.
@NurturingTalents Eh sometimes things just don't work out. If a relationship is bad enough sometimes it's not worth staying together for the kid, they won't be any better off for it. But if he has kids with 3 other women and her that's probably a problem.
She'll soon be the 4th woman he owes child support to while living with another woman. Geez isn't his past record a red flag? She instead marries him and has children with him knowing he has kids with 3 separate women. What a keeper!
Nah he's a narcissist. They use ppl up until there's nothing left then on to the next victim hence why he has 3 kids w 3 diff women. He more than likely love bombed this lady to the point where she felt comfortable & then once she became dependent on him by having children he trapped her so he could show his true colors. I know this bc my mom is a narcissist. She's been married 4 times & created a string of single dads bc she didn't raise us. She would just leave, go & make a new family. But yea Boomer/Gen X have narcissism problems but its labeled as love/codependency. I know what to look for thanks to my troubled upbringing & have never entertained a narcissistic person romantically. It's very important to vet ppl & ser boundaries, which I'm sure this lady didn't do. I don't wanna judge her & it's only a matter of time b4 he leaves bc she's no longer useful. I feel bad for her
The teenage kids up the street from me do it. They walk door to door with a push mower and a line trimmer. They do a terrible job, but at least they're out looking for work. The big companies with trucks and trailers and riding mowers never knock on my door.
I am amazed that Dave actually had a good answer for this poor woman. I had no idea how to help her. I hope he is seeing his kids and calling them, at least! I wouldn't be surprised if he has a few more kids, but the moms haven't come forward because they know dad has no money. But maybe someday a few more juniors will show up at their door. I'd sure like to see an update on this one.
Yes her choices were very unwise. Dating him, marrying him, having 2kids with him. I wonder if anyone in her life told her the run. - BUT: SHE does her part. It _could_ work if he would step up. Even if he would make a low income (under the table) with mowing lawns and shipping snow. and uses it to pay child support debt and provides _some_ income for their household. I think she would not complain about doing 65 % and he delivers 35 %. She is worse off than if she would be a single mom of 2 children with a man that does not pay child support. Raey should have told her to get a divorce. If he cleans up his act they can remarry. I do not think he will though, and she should have a separate account, they can clear theim common account. I am not sure if they divorce if she would inherit his debt. I hope not.
Mr. Ramsey, you choked me up when you spoke about dignity and element of character and church pastor speaking over his his life. You, my sir a good man. You spoke and advised a father should. God bless you sir.
I tried to tell a friend who wanted to date a guy with two kids by two different women. Her response was” we’re not getting any younger “. Exactly, so why would you want to bring this mess into your life ?
@Randall Johnson i wish more women could see that their children have protected them from far more bad relationships. .great advice never date women with children.
So, he’s marketing his landscaping business with a revoked drivers license for failure to pay child support for three kids with three different mothers? 🤔 sounds like a winner! 🙄🙄🙄
@@drc3po I agree! It makes no sense at all. Essentially the state is saying that if you don’t pay child support, we’ll take away your ability to pay child support while still demanding that you pay up.
I don't think people with low self esteem should make dating a huge priority. You won't make the best choice because you're most likely looking for validation and one thing I know is you will accept a lot of BS for a little bit of validation if you're looking for "love". Thank God I'm the most confident I've ever been in my life. It's the worst place to be, having low self esteem 😕
@@monica62888 - I think you hit the nail on the head. Folks with low self esteem need to work on truly liking themselves more before they even consider dating. This woman sounds like she's got a good heart and a strong work ethic...but a massive confidence deficit. It was so sad listening to her.
Seriously, what was she thinking? Making 2 kids with a loser who doesn’t take care of the 3 he already has!!!! And she thought this was a marriage/ father material!? What an irresponsible stupid woman! And the excuses she makes for him for not working.....this is astounding! I feel so sorry for the kids.
@@petramontgomery2579 Right! I can't understand why women go out and have children with a man who has multiple baby mothers and he's not supporting the children he has already.
She made a bad decision in choosing to marry this dude.
Yep.....
she really did, believe he wants her to cover his payment's.
Then she made two more bad decisions by having two kids with this loser. Birds of a feather flock together.
You can't choose who you fall in love with, sadly.
@@ryandono5721 You can choose who you marry.
Dave: Sell the husband
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Classic🤣🤣🤣
Except he is worthless 🤣
It's hard for me to feel sorry for this women. He had three kids with three other women when they met. He wasn't taking care of them already and she thought it was a good idea to have TWO kids with him.
“I can change him”
@@anotherseoulnative8781 I agree with both comments here but I still feel bad for her. Nice people are always at risk for being overly trusting. Hopefully it’s a lesson learned and they can fix this horrible mess.
I was thinking the same thing
A woman with a shattered self esteem and probrally desperate at that too
She didn't know. I once dated a guy that had 4 kids (3 moms). I had no idea until his friend told me 6 months later!!
He talked about "wanting kids." I think some guys think,"If she has my child, she won't leave me."
Dave: What does he do?
Caller: Makes babies he can't take care of.
@Sir We Are About to Die
In this case, the guy is a loser. You must be a loser as well to defend him.
Patrick not defending the guy.. but also throwing the woman under the bus here for her TERRIBLE taste in men and in that sense, she’s as much of a useless person
Gear Grinder 😂😂😂😂😂
@@MichaelP-ke1tm She still chose him.
The fact that she married him and had babies by him says more about her than him
Why would you have children with someone who didn’t take care of the children he already had when you met him?
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Exactly...
Did she know about them? Maybe she did, but didn’t know about the debt.
lmgam she sounds desperate. She’ll probably work while he stays home doing nothing.
@@peacebestill662 so you're saying you'd have kids with a guy who had three kids by three different baby mamas? That's what's called trifling.
She is fighting back tears the whole time . Tells you all you need to know about it this guy.
It really tells you what you need to know about her and her poor choices.
@@srgodwin1962 more accurately her poor mental state. Healthy people don't walk into these types of situations and they definitely don't stay in them. - but Dave never tells people to get divorced...
@@srgodwin1962that's exactly right. She knows she made the wrong choice with him, choosing him. And having 2 extra kids knowing he already has 3 with zero income. Sorry but she's an idiot. That's called a short-bus gold digger.
"2 years latter"
My Husband Owes $68,000 To 4 Separate Women
😂 yep that sounds about right
More than that. It would be over 75,000 in 2 more years
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LOL!
It amazes me that people actually volunteer for this kind of chaos in their life.
Cindy Liberty amen!
lol
like x1M
She's trapped
@@luisasterioquerubin6829 her fault. I have more empathy for the first wife. This woman knew who he was before she brought 2 more innocent children into this world.
He actually has five children he is not taking care of. Three previous children that he is supposed to be paying support and now two with his wife, that’s five children and he’s not out earning a decent living.
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If I was on a first date with a guy and found out he had 3 children by 3 different women, I'd walk out immediately and not waste a second more of my time. Why this woman decided he was some sort of catch and MARRIED him, I literally do not understand.
her husband got game. Not only did he get her to marry him and have two babies, but he is trying to get his wife to pay off his child support for the other three kids
I once dated a guy that lied about not having any kids
I did exactly that! 😂😂😂
She did not pick him, he picked her. Losers like him are very skilled at targeting vulnerable women and making them believe that they don’t deserve someone better than him. She’s responsible for her own decisions, but I have a great deal of sympathy for the way she has been taken advantage of.
The pipe
After fathering 5 children from 4 different women, owing an insane amount of back child support and sitting on his duff, there's like no chance this guy is changing his behavior.
This story doesn't have a happy ending. What a stupid choice in marrying this guy.
Literally 🤦 these women need to stop having babies w these bum ass men because this is ridiculous!
Dude is about to flee the country
can't take care of himself never mind the wife making not much more than minimum wage and five children, he's the picture of a loser
@@o0usf0ohes to lazy to leave the house man lol
Calls like this make me even more thankful to God for giving me the gift of my husband. We will celebrate our 40th wedding anniversary next month.
Congratulations ! I wish you a peaceful, safe and thriving marriage !
@@susiem.2068 Thank you. Unfortunately, my husband died this weekend, but we did make it to 40 years.
Thank God for giving those kids a father that can't take care of them. Your God is a joke
@@peanutoreo8052 so sorry to hear that 🥺
@@peanutoreo8052 God bless you and your family
He is basically with you because he needs somewhere to live hun... He’s a 3rd child! ....RUN!!
Whole facts
Where's Tony Gaskins 🤦🤦🤦, omg
@@janayialove4414 lol he would have a fit on this one!!!
Except he's providing childcare for her currently and we already know he doesn't pay child support so divorce isn't going to help her until she gets her income up
exactly... he needs to be dropped off at work in the morning when she goes.
The best advice is to never marry a man who doesn’t like to work and has kids he doesn’t care enough about to see and take care of.
Chevonne Staton yeah and men also shouldn’t marry single moms
now women will understand why we dont want to marry single moms
eli soopu why? I don’t the problem is that he has a child. The issue is he has a pattern of having children with multiple women and not taking care of them. I dated a man with a daughter and she wasn’t an issue at all.
@@eamcbmsc one child can not be compared to three by 3 women miss Kim, we can all date someone with a kid but 3 diverse kids is a crimson red flag, what is so special about you that three baby mamas couldnt be kept for, and just the expenses should be a concern too, that man is complete before you come, he has kids and women what is your role that others could not fulfill
This exactly the situation that my sister got herself into! So sad for my nephews.
I live in NM. There's landscaping work year-round. Trash hauling, tree trimming, etc. This guy's just a bum.
Same in Florida
I was thinking there's more to landscape business than mowing lawns. Had a friend that included window washing, and power washing.
Hubby is a moocher. She needs to say good-bye
LOLLLLL i cant lie when i heard she’s from NM it all made sense
Exactly my thought! I’m in NM and I have tons of work I need to do in my yard now and it’s November.
I agree the guys a bum but at this point 58k in back support+ keeping up with the current payments is almost impossible. He needs to get a job and needs to talk to a lawyer to see how he can fix this. Yes lady you made a bad call marrying this man.
I swear I would be embarrassed to make this call.
She sounded embarrassed and awkward
Some have no shame.
She sounded embarrassed.
It is embarrassing I know this feeling.
Desperation trumps embarrassment. It looks like desperation plays into why women even consider guys like this to be suitable partners.
She should’ve 🏃🏾♀️as soon as he said he had 3 kids by 3 women. Unfortunately she’s about to be number 4.
MJ Bankhead facts!!!!
Technically 4 AND 5, they have two together 🤦🏾♀️
Too late... she said they have 2 together
Ronnie Brown 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
One prior wife is bad news, more than one a fire alarm - GET OUT.
I remember listening to this when it was fresh. I played it for my daughter and said listen to the pain in her voice. I said to make good choices or you may feel like her. My heart breaks for her.
If my girls were old enough I definitely
I've told younger people this story. A girl I know got married young, to an irresponsible guy. They had two sons. She got very ill and died. The kids were little. I say If you are considering having children with someone, ask yourself this question. If I die, will he/she do a good job raising our child? If you don't feel 100% secure about that then don't have a child with that person. Because it can and does happen.
No doubt his desire to be a “business owner” is so that he can claim he’s not working and therefore not have child support automatically deducted from his check every week 🙄
agree with you, 💯👌👍👏 if he doesn't have documented income child support won't follow up on the case until he does. live in tx, owed $20,000 ncp is self-employed and he won't report his info. to them so no follow-up action.
He is a total bum.. What woman in her right mind would marry such a complete loser?? 😑
@@blacknmild 💯👌👍👏
Or just a lazy guy who didn't want to have a boss because he can't get along with being told what to do.
This is exactly what I thought while listening to the call. He probably only accepts cash for his landscaping “business,” which will mean that his client base will inevitably be smaller. When other companies take checks/etc, there is no incentive for anyone to choose him for the work they need done. If he were to try to open a bank account, his funds would be garnished pretty quickly. He is fully aware of this and is actively avoiding it.
She's ready to cry. He's watching soaps.
He's probably cheating up a new Baby Mama
He's making his own soap opera, starring him, his baby mommas, his unsupported children all over the place, and his new wifey (aka the Sucker).
She chose to make babies with a man who owed THREE other women for child support. Unless he tricked her, she let feelings override logic. He is a loser, but if women avoided losers, they wouldn't give losers the opportunity to make these messes. I wish them the best, but women, we can't play the victim when we knowingly choose a loser.
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You mean he is in the restroom using soap to play with something of his.
Why would you get involved with someone with that much baggage? It will not end well.
You could have been anything you wanted in this 🌎 ....but you choose to marry a guy with 3 baby mothers.
a useless degree doesnt sound as reckless
He must of had a real slick talk because ain’t no way in this world I would have married or even dated him. God himself would of had to come down from heaven and sit in front of my face and tell me to marry him.
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Wow....your comment was deep. Thank you for that.
@AmandaWalker even then I still wouldn't do it.
If she had standards , she would never allow herself to entertain a man like him.
yep, even as a guy i would not marry someone with a child/kids. its a tough life ahead for them, economically and emotionally, and the lady deserves better. why would someone who has been so careful with her life marry a careless person
or if she had a better childhood
KJ Tha 5 1 can't keep blaming your childhood forever, get in to therapy and do something about it.Doing nothing about childhood trauma is a choice
@@jellybeans9283 yep, and a lot of people use that excuse these days, it means they never have to make the effort to change and they get so much sympathy and attention, especially on social media. you cant be 25+ talking about your childhood memories
Well maybe he didn’t tell her this information. Stop victim blaming
Watching this made me feel so much better being a single dad paying child support on time
How are you a single dad AND paying child support?
Guy says: I have 3 baby moms, I’m virtually unemployed, and.........
Me: pleasure knowing you. Good luck in your search ✌️
LoL...I’m picturing what Judge Judy would say.
exactly, I wonder what was going on in her head when she saw that and say "sounds good to me".
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exactly... run sis.
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Soon the next woman will call Dave and tell him my husband owe $80k to 4!different women
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I can’t imagine why any woman would have children with a man who already has three he’s not supporting. That’s who you chose as the father of your children? She’s a huge part of the problem as well. Dave was way more kind than I’d have been. No free pass in this situation.
1. You can't "debt snowball" child support.
2. He's sitting home avoiding wage garnishment while his wife supports him and all 5 of his kids.
3. He needs to get snipped.
They can't go after her for support. But the second he gets a paying job imagine the fight over his paycheck.
@@Vydio no if they get a joint account they can go after half. Seen it first hand.
@@kpeggs82 Correct, they can actually empty the entire account. But he has got to start dealing with this, it will not go away if you just ignore it.
He’s a trash father !
Lol
He was trying to create a landscaping business because it’s cash only.
I had a landscaper for a while. Paid with checks, so...
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@@angelbear_og most pay their employees with cash, jobs like this, bartending, waitressing etc. don't get w-2's. the worker just has to keep records of their pay to file their taxes, the owner is responsible for filing their business returns. it's much easier for him than working at mc donalds etc. where he knows they will be notified right away.
@NurturingTalents 💯👌👍👏 agree with you, under the tables jobs are easy to get until you receive your document's.
@@nme.00104 He wasn't an employee. He owned his own business. Which is what the caller's "husband" has done.
Be careful who you choose to be your children's other parent, because your children are stuck with them for the rest of their lives for good or ill.
Child support: 58K
Magnums: 5 dollars
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He needs a vasectomy, not a magnum.
you guys are using magnums?
RacksandKush19 You took the words out of my mouth! LOL
She sounds like she's about to have a breakdown at any minute during this entire call. What a defeated woman- withering away to a husk for $17 an hour so that she can support two kids that mean more to her than anything else... and a huge bum.
Nobody is forcing her.
@@EddieDuranLLC you do not understand how real life works
@@mmmmmmmm1942 it seems like you're the one that doesn't. nobody is forcing her to support that huge bum. the kids is understandable.
@@EddieDuranLLC you're ridiculous
@@EddieDuranLLC I'm onboard with you. She needs to cut her losses. She met this dude this way, he won't charge. Some people are just bums
Shocked at how calm Dave is… Dave 10 years ago would have had a seizure from yelling at this couple.
He is being kind because this poor woman is trying to figure out how to properly support kids that aren’t her responsibility while also carrying his dead weight. She has no debt of her own to speak of, or it’s in the mid four figures.
He hears her pain.
She's on the verge of tears trying to convince this man wasn't a mistake.
I experienced the same thing with my ex-husband. He decided at 55 to become a professional actor without a day job. He still owed child support for 2 of his 3 kids. It left up to me to support the household and from the beginning I told him that I did not make enough money to do that. The pressure eventually took it's toll on my health and I was diagnosed with Lupus and Fibromyalgia. In the end I had to make a choice between him and my health. I chose my health and left him after 3 years of putting up with his lack of support.
She needs to cut her losses and leave NOW before he talks her into having another baby to keep her with him making HIS payments for him. She is raising/supporting SIX children AND herself. Their two, his three and HIM!! The biggest baby of them all.
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i dont believe there can be a full recovery from this, no matter what route the lady takes, unless the guy finds a genie and wishes for his transformation
Eli Soopu - Very true!! She's his FOURTH baby maker and no end in sight and she is being made to carry it all. Not her responsibility to carry HIM, their TWO and all of HIS kids by 3 others!!
It's amazing what people are accepting just to be not alone. After nearly 30 years of an unhappy marriage (4 kids) I requested a divorce (2017). Now I know that I was more alone during my unhappy marriage then today. I am finally free again. Every day is now my day! What a relief.
The fact that she's the one calling Dave Ramsey instead of him says it all.
Dude license suspended he want to build a landscaping business 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 SHE'S taking care of him
Yup he isn't interested in paying it off
She cares more about his 3 other kids than he does
So sad. She sounds like she is really really fighting the tears of marrying a loser.
She's probably just as messed up
@@RedWolfenstein She's employed and concerned about not only her own kids but her husband's kids from a previous relationship... She's definitely not as messed up as him.
She needs to make better choices!
She knew he was a loser before marrying him. He wasn't paying child support for his children; what else did she need to know?
He's worth zero
Being single is a blessing
Amen
Listening to those podcasts…. My final conclusion is: being single is the best solution. It keeps you away of problems or people who bring problems. 👍🏼
@@MegaMarVerde Amen!
She’s gonna end up like those other woman.
you can hear it in her voice... she ain't going nowhere. My bet is that he leaves for a pack of cigarettes and doesn't return
MOST DEFINITELY
Eventually, but not before she pays for his other kids at the expense of her own. And he still won't give a toss.
She already has 2 kids with this idiot
She already is. Shes the bread winner, calling dave to help pay for his 3 other kids while raising their 2 kids... meanwhile he is on the prowl for the 5th baby mama
“He’s not really doing much” OMG ruuuuun
Serious question: why would you marry a broke person that has 3 kids with 3 different people, and still have 2 kids with that person?? yes there's love and all but I mean, when you meeting someone you have to project how you're life will look like with that person as well
Because women are brainwashed to think marriage equals success no matter what the circumstances.
Despera😢tion, and stupidity comes to mind !?
Sounds like he was a loser BEFORE she married him. So sad for her.
yeah she's the 'victim'...she knew what kind of guy she got...she liked it.
Don't feel sorry for her, feel sorry for the taxpayers for footing the bill. Support eugenics
He was a loser before she got pregnant by him, which I am guessing preceded the marriage. So she's definitely a loser, he could be either a loser or a user, or more likely both. I'm sure Dave knows that better than anyone, but telling her that to a national audience isn't going to solve anything.
He should have worn condoms. Perhaps the mothers of his children told him they were taking BCPs. Unfortunately, some women look at child birth as a career (child support, entrapment or welfare is guaranteed).
She is no victim!!! She picked Him...
Some women spend more time picking out a wedding dress then the man they’re going to marry. 🤦
Im stealing that 👍
Some guys have trouble getting one woman. This guy makes no money and gets three
@@gtbigdog3507 probably well endowed or good in the sack women will overlook a complete piece of sh*t if he has those so called qualities
*than
@@gtbigdog3507 four!
Why isn’t HE calling in asking this question?!??!?
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS YOU WILL MAKE IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, WILL BE WHO CHOOSE TO MARRY AND HAVE CHILDREN WITH!!!!
This!
I'm 32, childless and being VERY Cautious!
@@monica62888 👍
@@tinmanslickgreasy999where did true love conquer all go
@@khalidmohamed5988 No where. It just never existed and is a childish notion. You can love someone with all of your heart and have radical differences of opinions in finances, child rearing, religion, politics, etc. that causes insurmountable problems in your relationship. You can also love someone that is abusive or has a lot of baggage and that makes the relationship intolerable. Life happens despite silly fairy tail slogans.
*clicks the title, gets the popcorn*
Thought I was the only one 😂
Right?! Scandalous!!
Here's more compadre 🍿
that part, all facts and truth. 💯👌👍👏
Don't forget the soda.
Dr. Phill says..."You can't change what you don't acknowledge!"
idk man, i feel grateful to be single every time i listen to daves calls
There's is never shame in being single, there's no need to even here all these alarming stories .
Yeah I like watching David Attenborough docos about lions eating deers and then I feel grateful I'm not a deer
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Girl, get the book “codependent no more” and stop taking responsibility for the messes of others
That is such a great book
Really? Going to check it out now!
"He got his license revoked"... Oy. I had been thinking he could do uber when the kids are in school without giving up his business until I heard that. 🤦♀️
Why would you "reward" a guy like this, with known character issues... by not only marrying him but having more children with him. Wow, unbelievable. Once she found out his true character (or the lack thereof) she should have snow-balled the heck out of there.
💯👌👍👏 with the marriage, believe his plan was to have the debt attached to her. if you file a joint tax return, it can be taken to settle the debt owed.
You spoke the facts
Shabazz agreed.
"Should" has nothing to do with it. This guy is a genius at taking advantage of young, naive women, either sheltered or neglected. Like other posters have said, he probably had the allure of a "project", which many young women fall for for some reason. A lot of parents seem to be failing their daughters badly in giving them guidance about men.
Love the phrasing
He should’ve been the one calling in. She needs to leave him and support her kids by herself on that $17/hr. Let him go to jail for it and move on!
Exactly, might as well get rid of him. One less bill.
Too kind my dear! He’s a deadbeat Dad. How does he think the children feel?
"He's at home with them while they're at school". Uh huh.
He's also doing the next door neighbor and having babies with his neighbors. lol
@@cutehumor
Exactly.
Mary Fields 🤣🤣😂
Quick money tip: Pick better men.
bingo.
Run a background check if you have to, it will be the best money you ever spent
Exactly
Dave you were extremely kind to her.
She still chose to marry him.
Buffy McMuffin because she is stupid dumb af
He’s a really great guy except he’s not
Exactly. The guy is the sailed ship. He was born a loser and will die as a loser. I’m not worried about him. My concern is her. She’s the problem in this whole chaos. How desperate and stupid can she be to marry a bottom feeder like him?🤦🏻♀️
Leila Adams My guess is that, since they have 2 children together, and she said they are both in school, so kids are grown. That means they have been married for a while. My guess is that when they got married he was working, and looked like a nice guy to get married to. Otherwise he would be a lot more than 58k in the hole for 3 children.
@@thiagocaproniny Doesn't matter. Never marry someone with 3 kids from 3 separate people. Even 1 kid is a lot more trouble than most people bargain for. Can't even imagine 3 kids with 3 separate baby mamas
Dave: Roll the husband down the hill like a snowball
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This 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 i read it with dave‘s Voice!!
Dave really handled this with gentleness for the sake of that poor woman. It’s nice to see him noticing the person and not just the problem that needs to be tackled ❤
Deadbeat. You need a divorce, not Dave Ramsey.
Great idea, but there are caveats. Divorce may cost money and she would not get any alimony due to his current debts
Not getting alimony from Mr Wonderful is not her problem. It is the debt he has amassed by spreading his seed that spells trouble. It is trouble he can take with him as he walks out the door. She will not be the only woman raising 2 children on her own. The 4 women can form a coffee clutch and talk about how lucky they are without him.
@@weirdo1060wouldn’t matter anyway..she’s the one with the income taking care of him!
How does he own a business, landscaping nonetheless without a drivers license.?
Yeah but then she's paying for childcare for her own kids. At least he's providing that.
3 kids by 3 women... ok it was nice meeting u🏃♀️🏃♀️
Run forest run haha 😂
her husband is a stud. He is irresistible to women.
Exactly! It is his fault for sure, but what kind of a woman marries a man with three kids who all have different mothers 🤔 And then have MORE kids with him 🤦🏻♀️
Now 5 kids with 4 women
I feel bad that these spouses stick up for bad behavior, condemn the behavior, then justify the behavior.
I guess delivering pizzas is out of the question for this guy.😂
He's trying to have non reportable income to avoid child support.
I wouldn't risk sending him to knock on other women's doors. Never know when that next bill's going come due.
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Yup, no license pretty much rules out delivering pizzas
Or drive uber or something, jesus christ
Its so easy to tell when people were victims of narcissistic abuse as children. This constant , self-sabotaging , aiming low decisions in life.
Spot on.
This is so sad and true...
I was thinking the same thing
This hits hard for me.
Yes, I wonder what she's faced in life that brought her to this.
I’m going to play this video for my wife next time she complains when I track dirt in with my work boots.
LOL
That's how you make her your ex wife. Don't compare yourself to him. It will make you look bad. Because this is trash 🗑
Lol 😅
@@lorphic777 then so be it. A good man can have any woman he wants.
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He sits at home and plays mom while she works and pays HIS child support!!!
He's pathetic
She’s a fool.
Sounds like they are two peas in a pod. These children will grow up and replicate this behavior, in all likelihood.
John C How sad.
He doesn´t play mom! He is their dad!
This reminds me of when Clark Griswold asks Eddie's wife about his job and she says "He's holding out for a management position". priceless....
This woman made a colossal error in marrying this man.
Dave Ramsey was too nice on the husband 🤨🤨🤨
I think that it would have been different if the guy was on the phone.
what would flogging a dead horse accomplish - hopefully this man gets the help he needs.
I wanted him to roast the guy
Missing from his character.....Birth Control.
Even easier to not sleep with losers.
Making better decisions about who to open your legs for is cheaper than birth control.
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I've seen this before. He can't see himself with a menial job. If he can't find a job worthy of him, then he needs to take a good, long look in the mirror at who he really is. He seems to be ashamed of what he sees so he tells himself that he's "working" toward a goal. That inability to see himself will lead to a deficit for everyone involved. Sometimes we just have to get through the hard times even when we don't like what we see in the mirror.
Exactly!
He’s holding out for that unicorn job making six figures.
I have zero sympathy for these types.
One mistake, ok. Two mistakes -- s happens. Three mistakes and I think you picked the wrong fella.
@NurturingTalents Eh sometimes things just don't work out. If a relationship is bad enough sometimes it's not worth staying together for the kid, they won't be any better off for it. But if he has kids with 3 other women and her that's probably a problem.
She'll soon be the 4th woman he owes child support to while living with another woman. Geez isn't his past record a red flag? She instead marries him and has children with him knowing he has kids with 3 separate women. What a keeper!
I know right? what a great way to not pay your child support. Marry a woman who will pay for your child support for you!!
Wow. This is so tough I'm so sorry you're going through that... I don't know I'd be as gracious as she's being.
Lawd if another married woman scoffs at me for being single again I’ma 😂😂😂. 🤦🏽♀️.
Well this guy is not the norm. I assume most people know how to choose better.
Angel Face right on girl👌
Angel.....you live the life you wish ....dont let nobody make you feel imcomplete.....best wishes
I love that your avie photo is a giant wedding party 😆
He has to be a smooth talking hottie who uses his you-know-what as currency targeting women with low self esteem.
Not necessarily. He probably just targets women with no self-esteem and hella issues.
Yep
No. He’s a predator who has NO INTENTION of paying for anything!
His tounge
Nah he's a narcissist. They use ppl up until there's nothing left then on to the next victim hence why he has 3 kids w 3 diff women. He more than likely love bombed this lady to the point where she felt comfortable & then once she became dependent on him by having children he trapped her so he could show his true colors. I know this bc my mom is a narcissist. She's been married 4 times & created a string of single dads bc she didn't raise us. She would just leave, go & make a new family. But yea Boomer/Gen X have narcissism problems but its labeled as love/codependency. I know what to look for thanks to my troubled upbringing & have never entertained a narcissistic person romantically. It's very important to vet ppl & ser boundaries, which I'm sure this lady didn't do. I don't wanna judge her & it's only a matter of time b4 he leaves bc she's no longer useful. I feel bad for her
Dave was gracious with his words.
She is either A) afraid of this man or B) too incompetent to leave him
Sounds like a real winner. Girl needs to run
People don’t change don’t change don’t change and he won’t change for you.
This poor woman settled . I feel so bad for her . She is being used 😔
@Sarah Min i would stay single before i get with a man with that many baby mothers😬 thats just asking for drama
She's a "caregiver" , he's probably a narcissist.
Oh yes. And you can hear her voice cracking poor woman is broken.
When you lay down with a dirty dog don't be surprised when you get fleas. She made a huge mistake having kids with this man.
It is NOT her debt! Run girl run!!!
How does he operate a landscaping business with no driver's license?
The teenage kids up the street from me do it. They walk door to door with a push mower and a line trimmer. They do a terrible job, but at least they're out looking for work. The big companies with trucks and trailers and riding mowers never knock on my door.
@@---cr8nw Good for them.
That’s how they do in in Mexico.... I mean New Mexico
Oscar Patino bingo
Wait...and he doesn't have a license...this story just keeps getting better
Many landscapers do snow removal during the winter
First step - vasectomy.
Maybe he'll have an accident with the landscaping equipment
This man can’t pull out of the driveway
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Gotcha
He can't pull out in general.
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I am amazed that Dave actually had a good answer for this poor woman. I had no idea how to help her. I hope he is seeing his kids and calling them, at least! I wouldn't be surprised if he has a few more kids, but the moms haven't come forward because they know dad has no money. But maybe someday a few more juniors will show up at their door.
I'd sure like to see an update on this one.
Gotta love compounding bad choices! Married a man with 3 kids he wasn't taking care of,then have not 1 but 2 kids with him and cry about it😱🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Yes her choices were very unwise. Dating him, marrying him, having 2kids with him. I wonder if anyone in her life told her the run. - BUT: SHE does her part. It _could_ work if he would step up.
Even if he would make a low income (under the table) with mowing lawns and shipping snow. and uses it to pay child support debt and provides _some_ income for their household.
I think she would not complain about doing 65 % and he delivers 35 %.
She is worse off than if she would be a single mom of 2 children with a man that does not pay child support.
Raey should have told her to get a divorce. If he cleans up his act they can remarry. I do not think he will though, and she should have a separate account, they can clear theim common account.
I am not sure if they divorce if she would inherit his debt. I hope not.
No wonder he has a 'dream' to own a business. It prevents him from getting garnished by the state for child support.
Mr. Ramsey, you choked me up when you spoke about dignity and element of character and church pastor speaking over his his life. You, my sir a good man. You spoke and advised a father should. God bless you sir.
His problems is now yours, I'm NOT paying child support to no woman because of my poor choice in a man.
Joy-Ann Profitt preach sister!
FACTS!!!!!!!
I tried to tell a friend who wanted to date a guy with two kids by two different women. Her response was” we’re not getting any younger “. Exactly, so why would you want to bring this mess into your life ?
Right!! 🙅🏾♀️👍🏾
Well if she loves her man and wants to support him what's wrong with that
This is part of the reason why I refuse todate men with children, whether they live with him or not.
@Randall Johnson i wish more women could see that their children have protected them from far more bad relationships. .great advice never date women with children.
Same here. And even if I did they would have to be supporting them. I couldnt be with a man who doesn't take care of his kids.
Same goes to marrying women with children
agree !
my feelings exactly. and i get so much hate, but I'm not ready for baby mama drama, naughty children, or half his income going elsewhere.
License revoked with a landscaping business. Make that make sense
Divorce him, so now he owes you and you don’t owe the ex wives.
I bet he’s standing over her while she makes this call
Facts!
💯👌👍👏 that part,
I wish that Dave would have asked, "Is he there? Hand him the phone and let me talk to him for a minute."
So true
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Thank you Dave for getting to the heart of this call!
So, he’s marketing his landscaping business with a revoked drivers license for failure to pay child support for three kids with three different mothers? 🤔 sounds like a winner! 🙄🙄🙄
@@drc3po I agree! It makes no sense at all. Essentially the state is saying that if you don’t pay child support, we’ll take away your ability to pay child support while still demanding that you pay up.
Im so glad I decided to remain single after my husband passed away in 2013. It's crazy out there.
Women you got to make better choices. and men.
I don't think people with low self esteem should make dating a huge priority. You won't make the best choice because you're most likely looking for validation and one thing I know is you will accept a lot of BS for a little bit of validation if you're looking for "love". Thank God I'm the most confident I've ever been in my life. It's the worst place to be, having low self esteem 😕
@@monica62888 - I think you hit the nail on the head. Folks with low self esteem need to work on truly liking themselves more before they even consider dating. This woman sounds like she's got a good heart and a strong work ethic...but a massive confidence deficit. It was so sad listening to her.
This is why you don’t date or marry single father.
Wow....just wow. Talk about being so desperate to marry someone only to end up with a total bum!
Exactly..
The thirst must have been real with her. 🤷🏼♂️
Seriously, what was she thinking? Making 2 kids with a loser who doesn’t take care of the 3 he already has!!!! And she thought this was a marriage/ father material!? What an irresponsible stupid woman! And the excuses she makes for him for not working.....this is astounding! I feel so sorry for the kids.
@@petramontgomery2579 Right! I can't understand why women go out and have children with a man who has multiple baby mothers and he's not supporting the children he has already.