Why Humans Are Vanishing
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Every two years one million Japanese disappear, China’s population will halve by the end of the century, the median age in Italy has reached 48. All around the world birth rates are crashing - Is humanity dying out? What is going on and how bad is it?
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Hot take: the reason why people have less children is not "because magically people stop having children when they stop dying", but that our lifestyle is incompatible with having children. When women were incorportated in the work force, work hours should have been reduced proportionally. We are working more for less, we don't even have time for ourselves, much less for taking care of our children, and most of the basics like home and health has been sequestred for a small portion of the population to live of a chunk of other people's work. Get down to 4 hours of work for both parents to make a living and you will see how suddenly people start having children, because what's needed to nurture children is spending time.
This, something people forget is that overythe course of the 20th century, available hours "doubled" as the half of the population that didn't work before entered the workforce, when there's more supply of something, it gets cheaper, this translated as wages being half of what they could be per hour
OH! So it's just a capitalism problem then? Shocker.
While this indeed points to a bad system. Having less kids is objectively a good thing. Continuous population growth is stupid and nature teaches us that it leads to only one thing: Mass starvation. I'll take some lonely people not being able to have kids over that any day thank you very much. Don't give me that "oh but that's long in the future" gunk either. I know how shortsighted people are, if population growth isn't managed and respected today, it won't be when it's too late either.
That UBI would help too. In the US not having access to healthcare or being able to afford university for your children is another roadblock.
Yeah, started this video and instantly assumed that they will turn this into some sort of mystery when it is a product of capitalism. South Korea in particular is kinda feeling the worst of this so there is absolutely 0 surprise here.
The scariest things in the world:
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Watching a horror movie and then at the end it says “Based on a true story”
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Being in a war at the frontline has to be the most scary thing.
I’ve tried to binge watch Their existential crisis playlist a dozen times. It can’t be done. Give me a bloody horror movie marathon and I sleep like a baby. 🤣
As a Korean, no idea how we're supposed to solve this. I've spent my whole life studying the most mundane & useless shit for a college entry exam, and now I'm forced to do that again in college. Everything is exhausting cus no day offs, no holidays- I gotta work to pay rent/tuition when I'm not in school. And I'm probably not going to land a job after graduating either! (A mystery, since apparently population is shrinking) Feel like everyone around me is doing the same too. And the guys serve mandatory military service too while doing all this shit??? Literally no idea how they do it. Everyday I realize there are thousands of Koreans in worse situations than me, and none of us are stable to think about kids. Complete joke of a country, just leave us alone and we'll gladly make an example to what happens if a country fails to repopulate. Hope yall governments learn from us and start lowering housing rates!!
I feel you bro
Its easy, just give up your own tradition and lower your own rents would fix the issue.
But you guys won't, because "nationalism".
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagIk that but it’s not the main reason why we’re in this state, let’s be honest. Also could you tone down the copypasta a bit
You can solve it by destroying the corrupt government that has pinned your people beneath it's boot
@@chiaohongcheng How would us, the young working generation and basically the punching bag of Korea’s society be able to lead any major changes? Think of Canadian housing for a bit if you don’t get it.
A famous Korean novelist said this. "In Korea, childbirth is a middle class culture." And it is very difficult for Korea to become a middle class in the true sense. Salaries do not increase surprisingly compared to deformedly expensive housing costs and increasingly expensive prices. Above all, the gap between Korea's small and medium-sized enterprises and large corporations is too wide. The majority of Koreans attending small and medium-sized enterprises are not subject to the standard labor welfare proposed by the state. The few elites who work for large corporations also carry out murderous schedules because they are elite. Koreans self-help as they watch the lights of corporate buildings that are still on late at night when people need to sleep. "Look at that, it's like a lighthouse." Since living alone is so fierce, Koreans are too burdened with raising children. More couples do not have children even if they get married, and many young people avoid marriage or dating because of the "high cost." Korea has the highest suicide rate among OECD countries. Now, Korea is becoming the first 'suicidal country' in the history of the world. It's sad, but it's too late. (The sentence can be awkward because it's using a translator.)
I mean children are cute and funny,I don’t think they don’t want children.
I think they are not earning more and the daily needs have gotten expensive.
Koreans should be more aggressive in cracking down corruption. Sadly there’s no time to save your brothers And sisters on N.Korea.
Yes, that is exactly the point of the matter.
The video says that the welfare system for women is the solution, but this is a wrong answer without knowing the situation in Korea.
Korea has long had many welfare programs favored by women due to the high number of female patients with depression. Nevertheless, the low birth rate situation has become serious. The cause is the misuse of statistics.
In fact, on the contrary, the low birth rate has accelerated due to institutional alienation of men. When looking at the number of Korean youth suicides, men are overwhelmingly higher than women. And by Korean culture, men do not want to be treated for depression. Rather, they try to hide it from their surrounding eyes and tend to refuse medical treatment at all.
In addition, men are obligated to take responsibility for their families by Korean culture, and salaries that do not rise compared to living prices make them give up preparing for their families. It is good that women's education and social status are rising. However, in Korea, the social status of men has been lowered, resulting in the status of women.
In Korea, women are better rewarded than men because they are only women, regardless of whether they are stupid or smart. Men who have worked more have to yield to women the compensation they deserve from the company. This is the beginning of the problem. If a woman is smart, it's not a problem, it's better. but The problem is the benefits they take away from men just because they are women. Smart Korean female CEO are also troubled by the fact that their companies don't work because of women who were promoted just because they were women.
In summary,
In order for a woman to become a mother. and she must meet and marry a man, and at least in Korea, the man must receive enough money from a company to prepare to meet and marry a woman. But, The moment the women take away men's money, men give up and eventually fewer men get married. Women will get some money but don't have children. As a result, a society where women take all the pies that men must ate will create a low birth rate. This is the process of the community collapse apart.
Can a woman with a high social status think of marrying a man who has not prepared? In the case of Korea, even women with low social status are avoiding men who have not prepared. This is because, as a woman, she does not think of raising children after marriage in a bad environment.
In conclusion, the reinforcement of gender equality policies for women in the video is a wrong solution.
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Nah just because korean feminism
@@user-w9nixo4d8zI agree
Literally the case in many countries is the lack of affordability. Here in the US housing is expensive. Many young people are still living with their parents or are opting to renting an apartment. Healthcare is a joke. One visit to the hospital/ER can financially bankrupt you. Many women/mothers don't receive substantial benefits such as lengthy maternity leaves. Access to daycare services is expensive. Food is getting more expensive. Higher education is expensive. The idea of having a single child right now sounds like a nightmare.
That is fundamentally wrong. It is the perception of affordability and the choice by individuals, more specifically women, to not sacrifice any amount of quality of life to have kids. A generation of unparalleled wealth and quality of life can't have kids because they are addicted to everything being perfect and easy. I am tired of people making the affordability excuse, the data says its wrong. Stop making this argument.
@@koy540 Can you provide this data? Yea, didn't think so.
@@koy540seconded, the economy had undergone a massive shift over the past three years, 29% are doing remote or hybrid work, 40% have the option to do either and yet there's still no baby boom and people are still complaining about the cost of childcare. Women just don't want children anymore, period 🤷♀️
@@koy540 That is a huge generalization. And I'm not sure why you are saying affordability isn't an issue when it is. Look at the average wage as a proportion of the average rent from the 1980s and compare that with 2023 if you need proof.
And it should be obvious that any country facing such problems is full.
Isn't it odd...that not too long ago everyone was freaking out about over population....
i feel it went like
"dont have kids the earth is too full and you cant afford them"
"ok"
"NO WAIT"
Overpopulation is the catastrophe that you need to worry about since this world won't feed 9 billion humans.
exactly, and then the rich people were like "no who's going to make me more money" and they began spewing propaganda
The problem isn't "underpopulation", it's an imbalance between the amount of young and old people. While I don't think overpopulation is an issue, it's certainly possible for there to be overpopulation despite a declining birth rate.
Oh, people still are freaking out about it. But they're worried about immigrants replacing "native" people.
(By "native" I mean it's often the colonialist population espousing these opinions, not the actual natives. For example: the English worry about this more than the Scottish and Welsh, Americans moreso than Native Americans)
I am a 26 years old, first jobber, in Thailand. I have calculated the amount of money needed to have 2 kids with my partner and we have already deemed it is impossible to have kids in our 30s. The cost of raising children these day are unreal and the older generation just refuse to acknowledge this fact.
Every senior I know always ask me "when will you have kids?" but when I give an honest answer of "I can't afford to have one", they all replied me with "you are overthinking" 🤦♂️
same in south korea
Elder people just want to have more relatives to be taken care of when dying 🙄
Nah. You are are overthinking. Just get one and you will see how things become visible and 'easy'
completely same in south korea, I can't believe that there are people outside of Korea who interfere with others by asking things like, "When are you going to have a baby?"
Or it's "well if you didn't spend so much on avocado toast and Starbucks!" 😂
It is quite simple why this phenomenon has happened worldwide, especially in developed countries. In our grandparents' era, due to the industrial structure, they needed more human resources that didn't need to be highly educated or skilled. Quality didn't matter at that time. But in our era, low-skilled but labor-intensive jobs were quickly replaced by machines, and now it has become extremely competitive to secure employment. Parents must invest more time and resources in educating their children than before. This leads to a significant opportunity cost per child that is challenging for a household to afford. Additionally, due to the drawbacks of capitalism, our purchasing power is lower than that of our parents. We are the first generation where both parents need to work full-time and nurture their children simultaneously.
shhh you can’t point out reality on my favourite channel about how ethical capitalism will save us all
Exactly. Anyone who enjoys automation machines and technology including AI _should_ know that ultimately what it means is we will need less, much less people.
Lol, no.
It's the correlation of intelligence + societal decadence and low birth rates. People say wealth inequality, housing, economy. That's all BS. That is their intelligence, rationalizing why they can't, justifying why they won't, or their self-centeredness in living for 'experiences' in a world with distractions that inculcate people into a dopamine feedback loop. They have that luxury in decadent society devoid of culture or religion , but of consumption and consumerism.
But poor people have kids, people who suffer have kids, people with nothing have kids. Nearly half of the population in Palestine are kids. Many people in unsafe, jobless neighborhoods, relying only on welfare, people living extreme rural areas or religious/cultured people, immigrants with nothing but their clothes on their backs, they have kids.
Sweden has free healthcare and ample housing, but they don't have kids. In fact, you could give everyone everything, and I bet you they would still fall under the replenishment rate.
Yet, the dockworker making pennies off the dollar straight from Italy, with no wealthfare, getting ripped off by the mob in early 20th century America will still have several kids.
People refuse to have kids because they can't ever imagine raising kids in a world post 'climate change', yet people during the bubonic plagues, mass poverty/genocides, 100 years wars can? 😂 please spare me the BS.
Drawbacks of capitalism is a bit of a reach... Were definitely having some issues due to things being mis-managed as of late, but look at the state of our socialist counterparts!
There is definitely a lot we need to fix with our current system. But in my opinion these are issues we are yet to solve, not issues caused by capitalism. Besides housing cost which is a serious issue but once again isn't really an issue inherent to capitalism, were just at a tipping point for our particular system
@@THE_MOONMANwhy as soon as somebody mentions that modern capitalism is unsustainable, people need to go to the other side of the spectrum, nobody is rooting for full fledged communism with gulags and shit. However, the issues we are facing today are absolutely caused by unbridled capitalism.
It’s not even financially responsible to have kids anymore
And the poor will do it any way.
i would take the "financially" out of that phrase. it's not even responsible to have kids anymore.
a lot of people that can have kids shouldn't! so many kids get fucked up by their parents who were fucked up by their parents and so on. society needs a major reset that it will never get cause many people only care about themselves.
@@loganshaw4527 now they are learning not to have kids
poor people who struggle to feed themselves:
"imma pretend i didnt see that"
Its mostly about income: My father bought himself the large house they raised me and my sister with a job as a technician.
Today, both me and my syster have graduations, full time jobs and still can't even dream of being able to purchase a house.
Houses in my country spiked from 180 to 900K on average in less than a single generation.
In all, we can't afford shit, surviving without burdening our parents past our 30's is already a dream, let alone having everything my parents had at 24's.
Which country do you live in may I ask?
I'm not discounting the high demand for real estate... but...
My father was born in 1942 and grew up right smack in the middle of middle class. Middle class meant he grew up in a 10' x 11' room with two brothers, all three sharing the same bedroom, meant he had to pay his way through college -- which wasn't that hard because tuition hadn't exploded in price (primarily due to the steady stream of easy-to-obtain government loans), meant they took one vacation per year where they took the one car in the family to a scenic area in the same or a neighboring state, meant he had a few shirts and a few pants at any given time, meant no smartphones, multiple TVs, videogame consoles, PCs, etc.
When I look at what middle class is today, it is tremendously opulent and luxurious by comparison -- and of course that costs a heck of a lot.
@@CharlesNauck "markets" don't have some magical autonomous will. Its merely the way people act when incentivized to in certain ways.
its the way people play the game within a very tightly predetermined (which every market in human history has been.)
(please spare me the nonsense about capitalism= less government. capitalism is and was the largest government run project in human history. capitalism is in every sense a product of highly developed modern nation states.
if the results of it are disastrous, change the rules of the game.
Christ people are dense,
sounds like auckland, new zealand where i am.
my suburb in 2002 was 180-200k, now its 800-900k
Bro is 100% Canadian
I remembered when back in the day people were talking about overpopulation a lot of experts said that the human population will average out at around 8-9 Billion. Props to them for getting their estimates right!
The estimates I was hearing in 2001 were more like 13 billion.
Also Africa has been pushing education massively in the last 30 years. These people learned about contraceptives, about abortions and about the importance of a degree. The birthrates in some african countries went down by a very high percentage. Meanwhile in more western countries and just industrial countries in general are just realising that its too expensive OR that it just isnt worth getting kids because of how shitty the world is. I know like 3 people (including myself) that dont want kids just because they think its immoral to bring kids into such a shitty world.
@@itcamefromthedeep The "top out" population has been 10 to 12 billion for the past 40 years. You always had some nuts saying ridiculous things like 100 billion, but you can't take the outliers seriously. Look at the consensus.
We don't need more people. Just move people from the parts of he world that will be inhabitable because of climate change. Move people from the global south to the global north. Don't have more people. The world as we know it will not survive. And they were right about overpopulation. Some just want more people to produce more and make billionaires richer. Meanwhile the average joe is suffering and the environment is destroyed.
Nonsense, population estimates have always been higher than that, and they still are.
I’m not Korean, I’m Singaporean. However, after just a few minutes into this video, I felt like it hit home. I’m actually only 13, but the amount of stress I see in my peers is so insanely frustrating. Many parents constantly put their child through extra tuition, and if you only have 1 or 2 subjects of extra lessons, you’re already considered extremely “fortunate”. I’ve seen parents chiding their child for getting less than 95, or sending their 7 year old for tuition for all subjects.
Not to mention, even co-curricular activities (basically clubs in school like badminton) has an effect on your national examination score (which will determine which Junior College you end up in, because people rarely want to go to the less “prestigious” polytechnics). You have to make sure you do charity, have a leadership role in your CCA (club), stay in the same one through your entire secondary school life, and have a close to 100% attendance or be looked down on (aren’t CCAs supposed to be stress-relievers? not some other variation of torture we have to go through 2-3 times a week or more)
In fact, i’m not even “qualified” to be sharing my experiences, because according to this system I had it easy. Our first national exams start at 12 years old, and many people already start preparing as young as 7. This is the infamous PSLE, which will determine which secondary school we will end up in. Of course, they vary in “eliteness”, and you will be heavily judged based on what school you go to. Basically, we put 12 year olds into a nationwide exam and put the immense pressure on them to do well (which means at least above 85 for all subjects because elite schools want nothing less). We can’t forget the amount of practice papers and tuition everyday (most kids that age sleep at 11pm-12am).
According to my PSLE grades, I am not a student of good caliber, and was immediately sent to a secondary school I barely knew existed. Sure, my parents were disappointed, and I can’t say I wasn’t either. However, none of these things really matter, and plus i’m enjoying my school life right now. I’d much rather be in a non-elite school than slave away for the next four or six years, slogging through exam practices at 1am.
for those who read until here, i’m really thankful you took your time to listen to my rant lmao
i feel really sad for my friends as I hear them laugh about their insomnia or them crying to sleep because “at least their grades are better”
I do sympathise with you. It is a mistake that we do that we do not allow the children to enjoy this earth despite our control of it.
I’m a Singaporean completing my degree in Sydney, Australia. All the points regarding stress you have made are well founded, I too shared similar views about standardised testing. However, since exposure to international (western) education systems, I believe that the Singaporean system is a relatively good balance between east and west education philosophies. Standardised testing is a relatively fair and accurate method of assessing one’s ability in later stages of education. (Basically, if you don’t do well in standardised tests at level 1, it is unlikely you would do well in level2)The development of technical education in ITE and polytechnics have made strides towards providing alternative routes to success and I encourage you to explore these options as I myself decided to attend a polytechnic instead of a junior college despite scoring decently in my O levels (L1R5 of 12). Also, if you’re dreading attending CCAs, you should probably consider switching to something you are actually interested in. Studying in Singapore will probably be the easiest thing you will have to do in your life as a Singaporean. The fact is we do not have any natural advantages as a country and our human resources which in large part is dependent on our top ranking education system is critical for our nation to stay competitive.
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I wish i was smart like you when i had 13 years, be proud of yourself.
Since you are young, a definite advice I can recommend is to find a form of career you love. Most education system focus on too many shallow subjects, it became worthless in real value. Spending your time to explore things you really want to purse is more important than getting good grades.
I am turning 30 soon. Most of my 20s have been stressing about getting the right education, finding the good job which provides me with income, working hard to save money for my own house, resulting to having two burn-outs by the age of 28. I haven't had time to find a spouse, and I feel like I might end up childfree. Age cannot be reversed, and I am still 24/7 exhausted due to the last burnout, which I haven't been able to recover from. How am I supposed to raise a child when I already am exhausted, I hardly can go to the grocery store without wanting to cry and yell - not to mention how to find someone willing to make a child with me when I am like this! I would make a horrible parent.
Please trust and believe you aren’t alone. It’s not your fault it’s the way the world is 😢
Same, I suffered a burn out at 26 and I am still recovering from it. I do not even have the time or money to start dating and find someone. Unfortunately dating requires time and money which many of us do not have. Plus, incels culture has been growing sporadically. Who wants to marry someone that hates your gender?
Partner up with friends, split the cost, and ride out the wave; Ya
@@humpheryflaubert8172 yeah it’s so easy to get friends to basically marry you.
@@amyamyamy777 Marry? No I mean to split a flat, home, or whatever. But, you could take advantage of the system and marry as well. It's all pointless anyways at the end of the day.
As a Korean, I feel good that K-pop and K-Drama are popular around the world, but I feel a little bitter because Koreans are not happy in the real world, so it seems like such a culture is developing as a fantasy or liberation zone. . Korea is convenient and safe to live in, but competition is fiercer than any other country, and the phenomenon of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is worsening, so it is by no means a happy country.
That’s why you guys don’t have any mental therapy. You think plastic surgery will fix all Of your problems. No wonder you have suicides.
Those are the very sources that are destroying your nation, you're being corrupted by the USA and it's turning your women into feminists and and men into activists. Stop giving into these poisonous sources of entertainment and embrace your culture and people for the past, not some western agenda of the future that promotes mixing of your people with ours and rewrites your history to some western fetishization of a melting pot.
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where in the world is this not happening though? rising costs everywhere making it almost impossible to save to have what our parents had. its not just korea.
Japan already does two out of the three suggestions provided at the end of the video: free child care for workers and monthly payments that starts high and ends lower when the kid turns 18. However, the housing issue still stops people from making families, since rents are often a third of a workers salary for small apartments that usually don't allow kids; for that rents are even higher. And buying a home is achievable, but with a lifetime of payments and being in debt. Another hardship still is that unlike your age when you sign-in into student debt (which ALSO is a issue in Japan), mortgage for a home would start at a later stage in life
I live in Japan. A problem that also exists is that a lot of women cannot find a stable partner / husband to have a family with. I've met women in bars well into their 30s that are scared their biological clock to have kids will run out
"a third of a workers salary for small apartments" *laughs in North American*
Japan has the lowest cost of housing in the developed world. They built more new apartments in Tokyo than they had people move into the city last year.
If housing is prohibitive in Japan then housing is just never going to be solved.
They only pay a third of their income in rent? If I could be so lucky
@@starfox300what would be a typical source of instability? My impression of japan is that life is rather “scripted” by social and economic pressures, which at the least ought to make stability a lesser concern?
Back in the 50s, 60s and 70s whole families could be provided by one working parent, even if that parent has a crappy job. It's very easy to start a family back then. Nowadays everything has become so much more expensive, especially renting and housing so that both partners typically have to work full time and don't have the time or money for children. The solution obviously would be to increase pay and close back the wealth gap between the rich and the poor like how it was 50+ years ago, but rich people fight tooth and nail so they can have their 5th yacht made of gold so I don't see that happening.
A politician in Nigeria: "all we have to do is increase pay for workers by 5000% (50x) to the US median income, and then people will be able to afford to have more kids!"
Don't blame the rich. You can blame people who think they're rich but aren't (say, between 30 and 90% percentiles between wealth, who have voting power in a democracy but think they benefit from inequality), but this isn't ultimately a problem where blaming people is productive. If we really thought low fertility was a problem, the solution would be obvious: copy the societies that have high fertility rates by making ourselves poor, by giving all our wealth away (such as to those societies which are currently poor). If we can't agree that it's a big problem, then it's a reasonable explanation that we have low fertility because a lot of people are fine with society having low fertility, and there's no need to blame anyone other than the majority.
Just fyi, none of what you said is necessarily true and isn’t even supported by data. I’ll speak from a US perspective, but wealth inequality is lower now than it was in the 50s-70s.
More people now as % of population have a tertiary education vs back then also. Your perception is just warped by media, more people are going to and affording university now then any point in time. Median college degree only costs $25k to $35k from a public university, even less after the avg financial aid given out. This is great considering the median salary for a college graduates is ~$45k!! Even if their job isn’t in what they got their degree in.
homes have gone up relative to median household income, BUT our homes now are 2.3x bigger on median than back then. Median house in the us during that period was only 900ish square feet, while now it’s closer to 2000 square ft for new builds. (A lot of areas it’s illegal now to build something smaller than 2000 square ft, specifically in most of those expensive HCOL suburbs.)
Healthcare costs are high but also, the median American is more unhealthy. We don’t have any laws like other countries (Japan has a fat tax to offset healthcare costs and to promote overall health!) to offset these costs and promote healthy behavior. You might argue and so would a lot of Americans that those kind of laws would be unfair because it doesn’t allow them to do whatever, but the problem is healthcare is a shared cost amongst society. We need to promote healthy habits somehow.
@@RiskyDramaUploads It's interesting you picked a random quote that isn't related at all to the situations going on in most first world countries and based your entire argument on that. No, the solution is not to make ourselves poor. In the US, one of the most common arguments for why people don't want kids is financial instability and insecurity. Get a grip and make points based on reality instead of your headcanon
More pay just means inflation if the average population is paid more. Giving new parents money is better just to give people a head start.
Great, the communists are back because the rich made a mistake and accidentally made everyone a little too miserable to stand them anymore
as a korean I am really surprised you guys made video about this. made me even more aware of how fucked up we are.
Why don't you guys all just accept the inevitable and let your country die out?
Its because of the radical feminism dividing genders and making men and women not want to have kids
It's ok though, you guys have NewJeans. All is well.
i mean honestly it doesnt matter whether you korean or as a specific citizens
eyy fellow korean lmao
same though, genuinely was not aware that it would get this bad... Like I heard some people talking about it but they sounded as if they were trying to be racist so I ignored it, but holy shit it's really gotten serious
Cost of living is so high now that having kids is a freaking luxury. My kid’s full time daycare is just 100 dollars less than my mortgage for a townhouse in a nice area.
I think one of the main reasons for the birthdate collapse in urban-industrial Western societies is that today having children is quite expensive. And parents and kids are also over-pressure to be multi-achieving - in the older times being a parent didn’t come with all of these burdens, and in the end your children would help at your farm work when they grew up.
Other thing to consider is that society is still pretty ageist - which is a paradox, since the rising median ages. Here in Brazil for example sometimes people are considered “old to work” when they reach their 40s. And in many cases, older people want to work, but simply can’t find a job because they don’t get hired - creating a strange dichotomy between the overworked young and the idle old.
The whole "Children are too expensive" argument is bs. Black people living in ghettos are broke and still have like 5 kids, yet a upper middle class white guy will try to tell me that he can only afford to have a single child? What does a kid need? A couple of clothes every year, food(which a woman can make for FREE), some toys and a place to sleep. Just stop wasting your money on garbage like gaming or other expensive time waste hobbies and you will easily afford to raise a child. People nowadays are just lazy and would rather practice escapism and pretend like everything is fine instead of taking responsibility for anything.
Yeah if you gotta give up your entire life, hobbies, and joy in order to have kids then kids are too expensive.
@@alexisdawnx there are literally tons of hobbies that are not expensive and better for you, like working out, drawing or reading. Gaming is expensive, immature and horribly addicting. I play video games myself but I don't waste my entire day doing that or pay thousands just for a graphics card. You are just trying to justify your addiction but I really don't care, maybe it's better that someone with that kind of mindset doesn't have any children
@@Aiklos5546You seem pathologically obsessed with gaming. Do you need help?
@Aiklos5546 Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Childcare is wildly expensive and the cost of living means you need a dual income.
Here's some info:
- I'm 31 y.o.
- i'm a Software Dev with 5 years of experience
- i work 2 jobs to have chance to get my appartment in best case in 5 years
- i move to Portugal, cause housing there is cheapest in Europe (Hello Northern countries)
How you can fit 2 kids here, to sustain population?
And i earn far more then many other people, yet still can't afford kids...
Me and my wife agreed to not have kids, cause we can't afford them (time and money wise).
Give us better working conditions (triple salary or half the worktime), and we might consider to fit kids in our life. Until then - its irresponsible to have children in this state of economy
"And i earn far more then many other people" I am one of them and we do not wanna be pushed into having babies!
Nowadays giving birth is more dangerous than killing . As that kid will ruin the nature for avg. Nxt 100 years. Better we all just go extinct and come again after 1 million years . 'Ambitious' people ruining the mother earth where as tribal people actually protecting mother earth. Who are really 'educated'? we have to ask this question to ourselves.
Of course. Everybody only wants to have pure sex they dont want kids beacuse kids are disease.
Me, on the other hand, am Portuguese and even though I have a stable job I was completely priced out of my own country housing market by digital nomads like you and I will never be able start a family living in my mother's basement. And I'm better off than most of my countrymen.
But hey, you get to buy a "cheap" house while earning a higher wage and enjoying Portugal's tax benefits for foreigners. While I get to pay my taxes in full while you enjoy all the public services, that is until I'm fed up with it and become one more educated Portuguese forced to leave.
You are contributing to the bleeding of my country but you don't care as long as you get your cheap house and sunny weather. Don't make yourself to be some victim. You are just a colonizer.
I'm 43 and finally feel like I could kinda take care of a baby emotionally and financially.
But unless I meet a very nice guy within the next 2-3 years that is just not going to happen.
From reading some comments here it sounds like the solution is to limit immigration because that would limit access to cheap labor, forcing employers to take better care of be more accomodating toward employees.
That.... sounds kinda reasonable, wow.
I feel like the culture of individualism is in part due to the 40+ hour work week. When you’re finally done working, you’re not always excited to also make dinner, clean the house, do errands… much less take care of a child. So we currently value the free time we do have way more than before, leading to more individualistic ambitions. I’d argue that a shorter work week could be beneficial in many ways; for existing parents, but also for couples trying to find the time to have children at all!
In the end it is a desicion based on money. If you can afford to work less hours, you do so if possible.
What could be an idea: Between ages 20 to 40 the amount of taxes you need to pay gets minimalized, if you are having a child and reduce your work balance. Resullting in the same amount of money after taxes as before, but with more freetime. This may seem economic BS in the short run, but having more young people stabilize the system later on would be a benefit. Plus stable families create stable children. I'm a teacher and having intact families to work with is rare :(
This, plus falling pay rates. My parents could afford a home and three kids at my age as a mechanic and a secretary who was even able to quit and be a SAHM. I'm a software developer making above average for my experience level and I'm still at least 5 years from a house let alone a single child. Besides which, what kind of life is that for a kid? Mom and Dad drop them at day care and then are zombies after 8-10 hour shifts? But hey, at least my boss can afford a yacht - haven't seen him at work in months, bet he's enjoying life.
Does not even have to be a shorter work week. If we all got paid vacations, paid sick leave, paid maturity leave for both parents. Of course, if everyone at work got raises based on the profits of a business would help also.
The 40 hour work week is an improvement to what we had before though...
People in the past may have been working 60-80 hour work weeks away from home and birth rates were growing, so it can't be this
@@noamuth89 Sadly, taxes are such a small part of most young people's income that I doubt this would measurably impact birth rates. You would have to make a negative tax rate, which we already have in America as the EITC, but this is still not substantial enough to have a major impact. Even then, if you are run ragged by work, there won't be a stable household for the kids.
If people have hope for the future and security in the present they will have kids. We have to take more directed action to help young people afford to buy a house and promote job security.
That 1.5 kids got me rolling on the floor😭💀
My sister pays 500 per child (she has 3) for child care that only lasts so many hours, and it's not even for 5 days of the week. And that was considered cheap for our area. They can afford the costs to an extent, but they can certainly imagine having more children if everything wasn't so darn expensive! She originally wanted 6, her husband wanted only 1 so that they can make sure the child goes to a good university and will not have to worry about anything like food or housing. With inflation now, she is now so worried about the future. He's getting a vasectomy.
My friend spends $2000/mo for childcare for his ONE child in my expensive part of the country. Absolutely bonkers
$500 per child is quite inexpensive. In my area, going rate is ~$1300 per child
If you lived in a country with free education, all 6 could go to university 😔
@@mixlllllllfree education has nothing to do with child care costing money though, lol
@@mixlllllll German here. Our Universities are effectively free and it is still incredibly hard for not well of families to have their children to to University. Despite everything beeing seemingly equal, there is a massive gap between children of poor and rich parents when it comes to education.
This starts with children of poorer parents often doing worse in school. In part because the parents don't have the time/care/knowledge to help tutor them in school or to pay for a tutor. So you already have an early seperation between children of richer parents who will often go to Gymnasium (schools for good students) and kids of poorer parents who will go to worse schools. That is not to mention the growing amount of children going to private schools because our school system is collapsing, we are missing more than 40,000 teachers and public schools are failing children massively.
Then when it comes to University you will still be expected to pay for you CoL which includes rent, food, etc. Even if you receive Bafög (German version of student loans) it is most likely not enough to sustain yourself if your parents cannot give you a lot of extra money. So you end up having to work part time in an incredibly hard curriculum that most people have issues completing full time to a masters in 5 years (and yes bachelors is often not very useful).
Also if you don't manage to get the masters in 5 years the Bafög will end which means you need more money from your part time job.
So you end up being a student for 7-10 years to get your masters degree after 12-13 years of school until you finally get to actually build your carreer and your own life.
I am a 13-year-old female student in South Korea, and I've been feeling the increasing problems related to housing prices, income inequality, and gender conflicts in my country. It's been said that just 30 years ago, classrooms in South Korean schools used to have more than 50 students. However, now, in many cases, there are fewer than 20, and it feels like one class disappears each year. When you go to public places like hospitals or bus stops, more than half of the people there are elderly. If the population continues to decline like this, young people will struggle to cope with the situation. Unfortunately, even today, South Korean teenagers are taking their own lives at an alarming rate due to academic and social pressures. Ultimately, having more children isn't the only solution. I can't help but feel that the future of our country looks dark. Politicians are busy fighting amongst themselves and aren't making an effort to address the issues of low birth rates, an aging population, and youth suicides. I am so sad but I agree that Korea is dying out😢
income inequality같은 소리하고 있네 ㅋㅋㅋ
@@하이헬로 다 그렇게 해석하는데 hannam만 부정하네ㅋㅋㅋ 집값도 핑계지 걍 hannam들이 뚱뚱하고 못생기고 고추도 작아서 가성비 떨어져서 안만나는건데
@@하이헬로 아직 영어가 서툴러서 글을 쓸때 번역기의 힘을 빌리다보니 어색한 표현이 있을 수 있어요
혹시 왜 그 표현을 이상하게 느끼셨는지 알려주실 수 있나요?
This isn't true at all there's alot of Korean people they just go to other countries for school because its cheaper, I see soo many in the Philippines. After schooling, they go back to Korea, I know this because i talked to alot of them in the Philippines.
@matthiasrooffeners790 Of course you're right. But most Korean students go abroad because they can afford it. Although South Korea is very small compared to other countries, there are many students who are so poor that they cannot leave the city where they live. As shown in this video, Korea has a severe phenomenon of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. Most Koreans that living abroad are actually a minority.
(This is my subjective opinion..!)
(Because I use a translator, Your sentences may be awkward and you may not be able to communicate. )
The main issue is our economic model, it forces people to work too much and have no time for themselves. Compounded to the ever diminishing revenues of most folks they are squeezed out of the possibility of parenthood. Back in the 50's a single salary was enough to pay for a house, have three kids and a spouse at home and have a car. Now you need multiple jobs to be barely able to feed and house yourself. It's the income inequality playing out it's vicious effects. I think we won't get out of it until AI forces a reform of our economic system and squeeze the population out of jobs toward the home. But for that we need to break the current 0 sum game structure of the economic system. The pyramid scheme we used since capitalism existed needs to go, it will one way or another as every pyramid schemes hit a wall where is no one remaining to con.
Then why did people in the early to mid 1800s have so many kids despite far lower wages and often 12 to 16 hour days.
Not saying any choice that you make to not have kids is wrong btw.
@@Temperius Value of money being way higher, and less items required to live in our world to a 'expected level'. No phones, no crazy electronics, just food, a vehicle perhaps, home~ Not to forget back then there was probably still plenty of families working on a home farm or ranch that could still put their kids to work on the farm.
@@Temperius Exactly, it's the 50s that were unusual. And it wasn't a global thing either.
@@AstralDragn Yet even the majority of people at the time would barely be able to afford food at the time, whilst now you need more you get paid more and work less. Life was worse at the time
@@fiso64 And the prosperity of the 50s and 60s, even though it was built on the backs of global imperialism, wasn't even a golden age for all people in america, Latinos, black people etc
Imagine being able to have children when I can't even dream of understanding how I'm supposed to buy a house by myself considering the prices or how I'm supposed to be able to work and spend time for my kids at the same time
No see, you exist to pay rent to a landlord and a subscription to a daycare silly! Only the rich get to spend time with their children in a house they own. They do that by earning off you! Do your part! Elon’s slave emerald mine money won’t be there forever!!! He needs your subscriptions. He has many children.
Join the military
@@GeoffCostanzaBut that just involves killing kids.
@@GeoffCostanza That is bad choice in Korea
@@GeoffCostanzaMilitary is mandatory for all Korean men with far lower than minimum wage.
This is a "not a problem" that will be solved by itself
As someone who's been to South Korea for an hour I just wana say your air port is very long.
why is this so random. South Korea do alot of international trade. its expected.
Bro spoke facts
we're talking airports?
As an Indian. I will never full understand how my grandmother had 10 kids, and lives to tell the tale.
Back then you had the salary and joint family system to help raise kids
Doubt she had a real choice in the matter
@@genovah5062 I'm sure she did, it was quite common back then to have a lot of kids and mothers are extremely well respected in indian culture.
@@Moltenlava I think he was talking about birth control... or lack thereof ^^'
@@cerise2315better having 5 children and living to old age with a lot of honor , pride and a family who will take care of you than tp have no children , no pride, no honor and no family
What I think the issue is that keeps doing this is the pressure from companies, corporate greed, and generational trauma that could be a factor in all of this. Climate change, trying to find our place in the world, and independence is part of the issue, but from where I stand at, nobody is making enough money to be able to feel comfortable enough to even consider getting children. Everything is too expensive, too many companies and people of power keep finding ways to line their pockets but screwing the people that have to work to the point of sickness, and/or death for the rest of their life instead of being given the choice to enjoy their life while they have it. And don't get me started on how even now men and women and those in between are not in easy standing because of how toxic mindsets make us view the other genders (both men and women belittling and devaluing the other due to generational mindsets pressured onto them thanks to society, and the old ways of how someone's sex made them either be the provider, or the stay at home parent. This is just a generalized explanation, there's numerous other factors that go into things like these but the main thing I'm getting to is the lack of respect, and inner reflecting that people don't do, and so they perpetuate the toxicity.) Not only that, but stress from work, the lack of acceptance from people that have a mental illness or a disorder - along with those that come from abusive households - play a key factor in the suicide ratings that have been going on.
There is not one thing that caused the birth rates to plummet, it's a combination of crap we haven't let go, what we built our society on, and what we're still struggling to get a grip on now. If our world was a better place - that people didn't have to be kicked from their homes, that couldn't feed themselves or their family - that didn't have to live in perpetual stress and depression - maybe the population would fix itself. But that change can't happen unless governments do something about fixing the issue rather than making petty laws and bills that only serve to divide people, and show just how ignorant they are at seeing the bigger picture in our world.
"If you're someone who has trouble even taking care of yourself, then you probably shouldn't have a kid."
This is the primary mindset integrated to us new generation. What we, the younger generations, worry about to early on in our life is money.
We were taught in this society that if you don't have money, you suffer. And if you have a spouse and a kid, you'll more or less experience the same thing with them.
Sincerely, a Gen Z.
That's because it's true, if you had actually thoroughly listened to the video you would, you would have heard k-ians talk about the difficulty of raising a family in such a costly society as well as the pressures of actually being a parent, and what is expected of you. Many people struggle to make ends meat for themselves, how can they be expected to also support a family? The problem is, ever since women were heavily integrated into the work force we have kept working these long hours but with not much better pay, and even if you are in a country that pays well, again, the general cost of living is extreme.
Meanwhile conservative traditionalists try to further limit access to contraceptives, abortions, and sex education because of a "personal responsibility" ideology agenda, instead of reversing the hostile family environment that their own pro-corporate policies created.
The younger generations worry about money so much because our capitalist society requires us to have money to access the most basic necessities (food, water, shelter, housing, clothing, etc.)
Sincerely, a (US) Millennial
I just had a kid. My wife and i both work full time. Everything is getting more and more expensive. My sisters watch my kid two days a week. The thought of another kid scares the shit out of me, even though i would like another one. The part at the end where it says the only solution is to make things easier for parents is heartbreaking because i dont trust the government to do that for us.
this is the real problem. unrestrained capitalism is bleeding people dry and transferring wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy at an unprecedented rate. the only logical conclusion is that the goal is to have the majority of the populace so deep in debt just trying to have a roof over their heads and food in their stomach that they have to spend every waking moment working for the corporations who own everything. they're already trying to bring back corporate dorms and company scrip. every dime you spend that doesn't go into the pocket of some billionaire CEO is a dime that CEO feels robbed of and he's going to do whatever it takes to get that dime from you.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflag shut up. stom spam
This explains the current political tensions in many Western nations very well- where governments mostly consist of and cater to an aging population who will die before they'd have to face the consequences of short term profiteering.
There's always immigration.
@@jasonhaven7170 and for all the xenophobic sentiment you might hear from politicians on TV, the fact remains that the US and Canada are far, far, far better equipped culturally to welcome the needed volume of migrants than the EU countries are. Far-right cultural protectionists seem to be having a lot more electoral success in places like Germany, Austria, France and so on than they do in the States...where immigrants are well represented even on the political right.
Hungary, for example, is writing itself a one way ticket to total national collapse.
@@jasonhaven7170did you finish the video?
@@jasonhaven7170 yeah, but the countries that benefit most from immigration are becoming more xenophobic for purely political reasons, like the united states
@@gazakana Immigration is a long term solution, so short term thinking conservatives will be against it, of course. (That means general conservative, not the US conservative branch which is its own flavour of batshit)
We need to stop thinking about the world in the limited view of toda'y economics. The economy is a system we invented for our use, it's mot supposed to be the master of our decisions. 1 billion great human beings is more than enough
As a Korean, I found this video very interesting. As mentioned in other comments, Korea's population disappearance was caused by various cultural and structural reasons. Therefore, in order to solve this problem, macro-level initiatives at the government level are needed, not individual efforts. However, unlike Korea's culture of achieving good results in various fields, politicians' abilities and policy systems are not very optimistic. Korean politics have become completely polarized, leaving only opposition for the sake of opposition. The real problem is that everyone knows this, but no one can solve it.
Korea is really under the US hegemon. The best they can do is thrive under it, and if low fertility is a consequence, so be it.
Sad to see Korea dissapear it's a self genocide. North Korea is objectively superior to South Korea just for the fact that it survives despite it's terrible life quality.. We live in a dystopia
정치인좀 젊은 사람들로 갈아야됨
Polarization is caused by the wealthy who want to prevent changes in a country in which they hold the real power.
I totally agree with you. They are extremely polarized, like they seems to be just interested in degrading other parties by putting up an aggressive banner, making a rumor...
They aren't doing their job, they don't deserve their seats.
I've just watched a 30 main TV debate between two experts on the subject. The word 'housing' didn't come up even once. It says a lot.
Among many things to be made in order to increase the fertility rate as suggested on the conclusion, one thing to mention as a Korean female is that in S.Korea, women actually get fired or handicapped in workplaces if they are pregnant or planning to be.😂 Society still view having a child & having to raise children as being selfish that burdens the company or peers. Often women are not subject to promotions and job offers due to the fact that they might take a year off to give birth.
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Yep. South Korea is strongly austere, pro-work and pro-business, partially because the Chaebols (South Korean mega-corporations) control most of their politics. The current government is also very conservative and likely to make it even worse.
Here in the Philippines, population is still uncontrollably growing.
I think we have to return to multi-generational households. Big houses with big families. Living with your parents until you inherit the house. Raising kids living with their grandparents, aunts and uncles. Takes a village, right?
I am 30 years old and born to a poor Korean. The reason why I don't have children is that I have lived painfully for 30 years in poverty, and I have never inherited any knowledge or property from my parents. I will cut off the inheritance of poverty and suffering in a way that does not produce children in my generation.
Secondly, I earn only $40,000 a year. However, the prices of a real estate in Seoul is more than $1 million. I can't dare to buy a house. This sends a signal to me not to have more children.
Third, in Korean society, there is a very strong culture of unity between the two. Strongly uniting the children of the rich among themselves, thoroughly rejecting, ignoring and mocking poor children. To be born in Korea as a child of a poor family is to be ignored by others and to be in a painful life with a sense of inferiority for life. Currently, young people in Korea do not have children because they do not want their children to have such a painful life
One kid costs like $100,000 dollars from 0 to 18 years
@@MoneyMan28 That is 15.22$ a day.
서울에 살지 않아도 괜찮습니다. 서울에서 계속 살려고 하니까 문제 아닌가요? 경기도를 오갈 수 있고 차로 30분도 채 걸리지 않나요? 그리고 아이를 키우는 데 문제가 있다면 해결하려고 노력해야 하고, 아이를 갖지 않는 것은 미래를 포기하는 어리석은 일입니다. 한국인으로서 당신 같은 것들은 정말 끔찍하고 역겹습니다. 연간 $40,000를 번다면 나쁘지 않습니다 ᄏ��
@@nielskorpel8860 A condom is cheaper, just trust me
I grew up with the best parents and best set-up for a good life later on. I work as an engineer and my wife is a lawyer. Due to bad luck most of our income goes to health-bills and paying off old mistakes (all non-insurable), so although we technically should be among the "high earners", we could not afford to have children, we just manage to stay afloat. Not money-wise, not time-wise. Luckily neither of us ever wanted to have kids, but still it makes me pause just to realize that.
7:55 That is a happy thought.
In Korea, if you use parental leave you are excluded from promotion. Doesn’t matter if you’re the father or the mother. No clue why people don’t have kids, right?
That is so ridiculous, how are people meant to live ?
@@gracialutonadio342 Many Korean vested interests are angry that we are a lackadaisical, lazy, and complaining generation because they were able to raise their children faithfully without paternity leave ;(
Um..It’s not true😅😅
@@보민-j2tno, it’s true
Well it’s true in many industries. Once you use maternity leave, you’ll be instantly excluded from major projects. Some of my colleagues actually had 3 months or less not to get fired or bc they’re scared to be treated badly after more months passed. For males, you’ll be harassed if you use one 😂
Korean Government: Please have children 🙏
Korean Companies: Do it somewhere else. 😒
There is little difference vetweeen the two in that corporatocracy tho huh
I believe that second line should read NIMBY
Me: "You will let us have children, or you stupid companies will no longer exist. Also, discriminate due to pregnancy in a family, and see how quickly that you go out of business, and are also replaced with far better, as well as far bigger, and far more profitable, companies, for happy workers are productive workers".
@@paxhumana2015 dropped the ball going for profit as an accolade, there; classic owner's mentality.
@@paxhumana2015 and then the superiors in that company starts crying about profits
It’s simple. No time. No money. Not enough help.
“It takes a village to raise a child” is a very old saying. People are very quick to forget.
Nowadays they cherry pick role models and say "you can make it"
Technically it's still just a saying it takes a father and a mother to raise a child. Hot take. The world's population is in decline because women think men are trash and men are tired of gold digging women. I think the reason why birth rates are so low now is because of equality and feminism
@@jeffreyrodriguez7298 true
Yeah man they pickup 1 percentage and expect all of the others to copy thme 😂@@jeffreyrodriguez7298
They quote a village as if everyone has one available...but most folks don't nowadays because of how we fragmented around social media lines. How many people KNOW more than three of their neighbors on their street? Even just ask that of home-owners, not renters. Renters in apartments may actually interact as their own sub-unit semi-village, too...but 'homeowners' either are there predating social media, or they don't know more than MAYBE a handful of their neighbors. There are surely some exceptions to that, but...anyway, I have lived where I do for YEARS now (3 or 4), but because I'm one of only a very few who refuses to use social media in any form except sorta-youtube (but I only sub for content, not 'belonging' or 'extended semi-family' or something), nobody but my childless "both of them work for a living and they own a dog which they love VERY much!" next door neighbors knows and can believe that I would babysit for ANYONE for a few hours just to help someone preserve their sanity or health. SOMEONE in town would have asked even once if they thought I was safe to ask that of...but A) Fear-bubbles and I'm not in their 'social-medium-existence range' and B) Since they don't know me personally, if they're not my neighbor's BEST friend, I doubt anyone else she knows would ever consider asking me for help with their kids. So not only do we make it hard to raise kids, we make it hard to make a VILLAGE in which to RAISE that child nowadays, and we have NO reason to look surprised at what has resulted from our own long-term-messes.
When I was very young, I used to hang out with a family in our neighborhood who got paid (I forget, some small-but-usable-amount of money) to watch kids from each family. It wasn't perfectly SAFE, but this was also the 'free-range children' era anyway, so kids being a bit self-reliant even from a young age was quite expected. Older girls (and rare boys) would help the mom of the house, the families would pay to be part of that 'extended-household', and we'd even do stuff like 'fix up the house for them' or 'add a new room' or whatever as a village. Someone pulls permits, someone else organizes what materials are needed, someone figures out what the stuff would cost and takes up collections to make it possible. That person took care of your kids; we all wanted to make sure they were happy and had whatever they sensibly-needed in their lives, but ESPECIALLY the stuff they needed to better care for our kids!
I could maybe become that sort of person for my town/section of town/whatever...but I know three households on the street, with two of them being 'on each side of me'. I may even be an overachiever...I understand way too many people just use "Neighborhood Panic" apps and just 'lurk at all those crazy people on our street' from afar rather than actually meeting any of them in real life.
We have done better than we are doing right now. We can DO BETTER once again, if we choose to do so and work for it. 😕
Get OFF of Facebook and Twitter and everything else.... Or at least ban them all from providing news and text outside of 'whatever your phone's recorded travel range is', maybe? I dunno...but let's work on it.
As a teenager, I always imagined that by age 30 I would've married, owned a house and had all the children I was going have. I turn 30 in 8 days. Haven't done any of those things. I've been with my partner for 7 & a half years. If it was up to us, we would've done all of it already, but neither of us see those things as achievable goals for our near future. Housing is way too expensive and wages are too low. Why have kids when we can't afford to feed them or house them? Much less have the time to raise them since we both work full time just to survive. And without all of that, marriage just seems so pointless...
As much as we wish we could start a family, we have no incentive to do so
If Africans living in mud huts can have 7 babies, then so can you.
Enjoy the last 8 days of your twenties 🫡
I have two kindergarden kids. Best thing I did in my life. The maridge collapsed but still we have two wonderfull humans to care for. It will all work out. They really don't need that much money. All they need is parrents that love them and show them they are loved.
@eypxmwgovmifuon7808 Oh, I will! Thank you
Do you really need an incentive for that
“The wolves are upset, the sheep won’t reproduce”
Exactly. Great way of putting it
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你这是自私自利好吗
The wolves are all higher class who just want to pay a peanut to its workers.
The effect of an aging population is felt very strongly in Greece. For years our politicians have mostly catered to retirees and government employees and that's been enough to get them elected. But the burden of the system has been felt by the younger generation who, for the most part, have just left the country, leaving even fewer people to support the aging population. It's negative feedback loop at this point.
Similar in the Czech Republic. Politicians bend over backwards for retirees without giving the younger generations a thought. Young people don't vote because no politician represents their interests. Politicians don't care about young people because they don't vote. It's a cursed loop.
Same thing is currently happening in my country! Cant wait to get out tho
So the boomers are reaping what they sew.
Ela Patrida
The younger people need to take back their nation from the corrupt upper class or the young will cause their own end through their indifference
I just have to say, I've never felt so seen in this comment section. I think this is the first time I've truly felt connected to so many other people on the internet that share my concerns and frustrations towards surviving, let alone living, in this world. Stay courageous everyone
I think that's a huge telling of how little it's actually talked about, like yeah inflation and economic downturn is constantly talked about but you never see how many people it actually impacts because it's not covered anywhere ever
"Parenthood needs to stop being a career obstacle. Our cultures need to become more positive towards families." -- utterly utterly important message.
Well babies require 24/7 attention and nana isn’t really a thing in Korea. Even if it was, no one would be able to afford it. It’s not a cultural obstacle of who gets to be the bread winner, it’s because the reality is they can’t even buy a 2bedroom apartment let alone have money to raise a child. It’s impossible to become independent from your parents working a normal office job.
hee hee hee haw
@@josephp9141do you mind expanding on what you mean by “nana isn’t really a thing”?
@@jcheck1107Nana as in person who takes care of your children. A baby sitter but instead lives in your house for as long as you pay them.
Hah! You should run as a comedian!
No Stable Job?
No Affordable Housing?
No Financial assistance?!
then no Child!
What are you, 12?
No someone with actual common sense@@dallassegno
@@dallassegnoWhat are you ? Dumb ?
Don't answer, rethorical question.
@@dallassegno are you 12?
@@dallassegno blud onto nothing
Many young people don't even have their own home. You can have more money, but if you pay more for living, you are not rich at all. Rents and house prices are crazy - impossible to buy a house/flat without going into debt for 2 lifetimes. Many people just don't want children because it's economically unbearable.
I like Jesus Christ 😊 ❤️
All result of too many people alive in the world.
@@Kamamura2 no, the problem is with the system which pushes prices too high...
@@tomashromnik108Prices rise because people keep buying or consuming. This especially is so when commodities are limited. So less people=less consumers=lower or at least stable prices. And not to mention less waste, pollution and carbon emissions.
@@theintrovertedaspie9095 it doesn't depend on the count of people but their lifestyle....
The lack of pay increase but massive spike in spending
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I'm 28 and I can barely take care of myself. How tf am I supposed to take care of a child? I don't even have the time to meet someone.
Also Women: Are you 6 foot or taller? Make +500k per year?
@@sages101Those women don't exist too often.
Same.
im 23 and working 12 hours for 5 days a week. I dont have time to do anything except take shower, grab a fast food. by the time I rest on weekend Im too burned out to fully clean my home, just tidy it little bit here and there. Having a child is far cry, I dont even think i can have a child at my 40's. Maybe I'll die sad and lonely, all alone. Future is not looking great...
@@sages101don't forget to ask about the blue eyes, THE BLUE EYES! 😂
I am a father in America that was fired when I took a week off of work to nurse my wife post pregnancy. A real story to consider in your assumptions.
I am sorry.Yeah its America - whose dream is a nightmare.
This is why I laugh in European when anyone calls the US a developed country 😂
@@Paulito2026 good point
@@dennisengelen2517 the "undeveloped" country that protects you 🤣
@@Paulito2026
No.
i can't quite understand why even Kurzgesagt barely touched on the absolute, obvious reason this is happening. People are working too much, for too little. If they can barely afford to live while working full time, why would they add the huge financial burden of children on top of that?
People -want- to have children. They just dont have the momey or time, its not because were being rebellious individualists, its because we couldnt afford to feed them, let alone have time to see them and teach them.
No its bc there a lot of gays and people making shorts of saying I hate kids making more people likely to not birth
@@leudsonsouza but gay couples are having kids at almost the same rate as hetero couples.
On top of that, gay people didn't just suddenly start existing.
Its a staunchly neoliberal channel that will not discuss growing economic inequality or how worker productivity has skyrocketed but people have become poorer.
Notice where they say "people will have to work harder and longer hours" when they just as easily could have said "rich people will need to be taxed more" or "workers will have to get paid more" or "governments will need to change their economic model", thats where they really show their cards and bias.
They barely mentioned income, housing, or time at work, like you and this whole comment section said. Add in the mental health crisis, drug use/overdoses, suicides, and dating scene in terms of social factors.
Its not a serious production and if not for the cute animations would never be watched.
@@leudsonsouza that doesn't severely impact the birth numbers.
@@leudsonsouza dawg theres less homosexual people statistically it wont even dent the birth rate, what OP described is one of the reasons why birth rates today are so shittily low
The worst part about this is that it is a vicious circle. The governments will prioritize the elderly majority putting even more strain on the young leading to even less kids and more old people. In my country it is already manifesting by the government spending huge amounts of money to make sure that the pensions keep rising and at the same time they make budget cuts for education and healthcare and do nothing to alleviate the soaring house and rent prices and they can't do anything else because freezing or lowering pensions is a political suicide in a majority old democratic nation.
Edit: I am taking about the Czech Republic, but the issues are basically the same everywhere in the West
Which country is this?
True. Look at Japan. The elderly are literally destroying the future of young people and thus the future of Japan itself. The young Japanese already given up and stopped voting. Which of course lets the ruling party in power and they pour tax money into the elderly. In 2015 age group 20s was already as low as 30% voter turnout, age 60 was 70% study published in Springer Nature.
Denmark had been a gerontocracy for decades, and things aren't going to improve. Problems that mainly plague young people, including the lack of affordable rental housing, is consistently ignored.
how the hell would it lead to more old people? do you think that old people multiply if you feed them?
@@Khunark yes, kind off. People get older if you feed them, so by feeding you get more old people. Every year you get more and more old people.
A while back I had the displeasure of listening to a senior citizen (who shall remain unnamed) complain about how young people these days are just so lazy. "By the time I was that age, i AlReAdY hAd A hOuSe." And I'm over here struggling not to blow up and tell them to get a fucking clue. The economy is NOT the same.
nowadays old people are just not accepting the fact that the world has changed so much.
@@zayedbinimran957 In fairness we will probably act in a similar manner if and when we reach their age. It happens with each generation, I have seen my parents complain about my grandparents and now I complain about my parents. The cycle will just continue.
@@20thCentury_Turtle not us. We are gen z. We literally grew up in a world that was constantly changing and as such changes won't impact us as much as the older generations like x and y because in their time change was slow so seeing the world change so fast they couldn't adapt.
The elderly like to victim blame Millennials & Gen Z for the consequences that they themselves created. They worshiped the Greed Machine & made other dumb decisions that harmed us before we were even born.
@@zayedbinimran957Don't you think that is kind of a closed mindset? I mean with Gen Z starting at 1997, none of them were old enough to remember 9/11. The surge in the middle east had died down before any of them were old enough to enlist. To date, the biggest thing gen Z has had to experience was a pandemic scare that just resulted in staying home for a few months then wearing masks for a year or so. Meanwhile Gen Z's parents and grandparents saw wars the US actually took part in. From Vietnam to the Gulf war to the middle east. Along with watching 9/11 on the TV and wondering if their Gen Z kid was still safe at school. Honestly, in my opinion, most of what Gen Z has gone through the first started turning 18, 9 years ago, pales in comparison to what most previous generations experienced. But hey, there's another 10-20 years till their kids are old enough to make this kind of comment so there's plenty of time for actual major changes.
Countries think they can get away with being greedy without consequences.
As a Korean, one of the main reason for rapid fall of birth rate is that the idea of "If we cannot make our children happy, then it is better to not give birth to them" has become so common among the young people in Korea. It is of course an obligation for parents to try their best for their children's happy juvenile life, but the thing is that typicaly Koreans have large focus on economic well-being as a prerequisite for happy life, which not many could attain the general standards for wealthy life.
The bigger picture here is that the West is trying to soften you up into accepting multi-national immigrants. Keep your wits about you.
I'm Vietnamese and share the same belief, for I've witnessed the suffering of small children more than usual due to poverty and abuse.
yeah, I agree. I think their education has a big part on this whole phenomenon too. Education in Korea is very old fashioned, it's all about printing the same kind human resources like a machine. Young people compete endlessly not knowing why. As a Korean American who spent most of my teen years in Korea, that system broke me. Individuality is completely ignored, and the only way to be acknowledged is getting into a good college. Not surprising to see that this country has the highest suicidal rate, along with decrease in birth rate. Life is brutal there.
The same here in China
돈이 몰리는 곳에 답이있다. 돈이 없어서 애를 낳고싶어도 못낳는 사람이 있는가 하면, 돈이 넘치게 많아도 애를 낳지 않는 사람도 많다. 자본주의 구조 상 한 나라의 자본 90%를 아주 소수의 부자들이 차지할 수 있다. 그러면 그 부자들은 나머지 인구의 출산율을 책임져줄 수 있나? 부자들이 돈을 거머쥔 만큼 아이도 많이 낳아야 해결될 것이다. 예를 들어 삼성가 등 재벌은 최소 10명이상 아이를 낳아야한다던지 등등.... 하지만 법적으로 강제성을 주지 않으면 해결되지 않겠지.
Boomers: "Don't have kids if you can't afford them!"
Younger generations: "ok!"
Boomers: .... 😡
lol
But actually. So many capitalists too. They’re against any sort of paid parental leave, saying “why should I pay you to have your kids?” And then they’re the ones bitching the most because they realized that it’ll be harder to become rich without workers to exploit.
I’ve seen them list children as a luxury expense alongside vacations and starbucks lmao
"Having a family is seen as a career obstacle"
Those words very accurately describe our corporate culture. It's something I and my generation just accepted because it is the way it is, but when someone spells it out like that, you really realize how wrong that kind of culture is. Corporate interests outweigh the needs of the individual and we are seeing the effects right now. Overworking and underpaying your employees may yield you short term profits, but it's gonna be a disaster for the work force in the long run.
Companies need to promote family time, mental health, and physical health, it will benefit them in the long term.
Boomers really think we live in the best time in human history, while that’s kinda true overall I’d say we’re entering a second dark age in humanity and i’d also say that’s mostly at the fault of the boomers for not providing for their kids, now we’re stuck with the present and dealing with the mess they left
Korea is basically the textbook example of what happens when living an ordinary, simple life is regarded as failure. I’m Korean but glad my parents didn’t put me through all that.
Vars?? What are you doing here
When a top 10 or atleast 20 percent out of population is considered 'normal'
And if you're not 'normal' you deserved to be mistreated and looked downed constantly
No wonder people stopped making kids and been killing themselves more than anywhere
If you can, emigrate to Latin America, we have good food, housing and good life quality... (if you dont get killed by robbers), but its mostly calmer here.
My parents didnt pressure me like that as well (like telling me to be better and work harder) but I still ended up being a depressed loser because societal expectations and pressures exist outside of parenting style. Im heavily affected by that more than I'd like to be.
@@bapbirb They raised me to be prepared for societal expectations and pressures, rather than pushing those very expectations and pressures on me. They taught me discipline and good work ethic so that when I encountered those pressures and expectations I would be ready for them. It's not that they let me relax and stuff.
10:33 I love this line "no one owes their country a child", very well said, love from China!
I'm nearly 24 and my parents would have expected me to settle down and support a family by now had the world been an affordable place to live. But kids are expensive and at this present moment I literally have $24 in my bank accounts, and I get paid next week. Living on my own is impossible, I live with two roommates with similar incomes.
This economy is nightmarish. I work 34 hours a week and I'm also a student. I'm bogged down trying to build a successful life in a world that seems hellbent on failing. Everyone in power is obsessed with hate and greed. Not to mention they're old enough that they'll die before they see the consequences of their actions. It feels pretty bleak.
Turn on tune in drop out - Tim o Leary
Courage mate, you will overcome it.
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus -- and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it -- that unless you're free the machine will be prevented from working at all!!"
Mario Savio, 1964
@@EnzoGarabatos That's easy enough to say until a certain point. When does "overcoming it" stop being viable? I'd argue in many countries we've already passed that point. Almost everything is getting worse; pay is insufficient; housing are way too expensive; food prices going up whilst inflation and shrinkflation gives us even less buying power; college costs a lifetime of debt for many of us; I can go on. Yeah sure, somethings are better now than in the past but to be honest I would rather have been young 60 years ago.
Raising a kid isn't as expensive as they scare you into thinking it is. Take it from a dad.
Aren’t we overpopulated????? 8 billion people and growing every day???
this world can hold 9 billion people, so we’re not overpopulated yet😅
@@ImNobody66621Yes there is enough space for 9bn. But there are far less resources than when we started exploding. We are beyond overpopulated
@@jayBBvid95 There is abundance of resources in galaxy. It's just about technology to make it profitable to use them (and less people usually mean less ideas/innovations).
@@shogee2905🤡 our technology isn't that level and goodluck convincing the corrupt governments. Think realistically
If you were right most of the patents would have originated in India and China; in contrast to what you’re claiming prosperity and number of patents registered in China as population increase declines; we can’t say the same thing about India because they keep breeding.
Something that I'm disappointed wasn't touched on is the financial deficit of having children. it's becoming increasingly more expensive to live in the western world as salaries have not increased to match, and children are incredibly expensive to have. Until the cost of living vs average salary goes back to what it was like pre 2008, having children is just straight up bad to do financially.
our ancestors lived $1 a day and had 12 children, stop buying useless shit and looking for houses in expensive places.
@@muradm7748 Our ancestors developed different superstitions to keep populations down because they couldn't afford large families. It is only since the industrial revolution that large families started to be a thing. Why do you think the world population didn't change much between 10,000BCE and 1,500CE.
Your 1 pound a day is now worth at least £12 now, stop blaming the younger generation and learn how inflation works
Also housing prices and advertising dont help the situation
@@muradm7748 Ah yes, let me move into the practically free abandoned house in Hopeville West Virginia and raise a family there, despite the fact that there's no jobs there to support myself with agriculture or whatever not being productive compared to industrial farming and such.
People don't move to expensive places for the fun of it, they move there so that they don't have to spend half their day commuting to and from work, and that they actually can get to heir job, because the last generation spent all their time making it impossible to build anything but single family homes near workplaces, leading to there not being enough housing where the people live
I think it's also important to note that people want to have kids, but housing and healthcare costs are so unbearable that it's literally impractical for them to have more than one. This rings true for most of Europe, as well as places like Hong Kong and Korea.
All Developed countries
I think housing and healthcare costs are not that much worse than say 70-100 years ago, it’s just that we have different standards now (which is not a bad thing at all), we have better control over our fertility and most parents/potential parents are trying to be responsible with the choices we make for our kids. My grandma grew up with 4 siblings in a small 2-room flat in the 50s and it was nothing unusual back then in the USSR, but who would consciously decide to have 5 kids in a tiny apartment nowadays?
Korea has good medical welfare. The majority of Koreans worry about housing and education expenses.
Are there apartments for single people in Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia? There aren't that many, right? If they are 30 years old and unmarried, they are probably living with their parents. The same goes for southern Europe.
Jews back at it
The whole system needs revamp - if we could go from capitalism that benefits selected few to something else - it might have change the whole quality of life for everyone, but because the human nature takes over people are living in conditions we are now... cuz somebody wants to be the best and to have all control they have
Ask the ALIENS what system they live in... That could be useful...
I'm a high school student in Korea, and I have midterm coming up in a few days.
I spend more than half of my day studying, including school routines and hagwon every day, but I can't feel much value from the knowledge I've learned like that. That is nothing more than a tool for competition.
I am tired of the fierce tests and competition that are repeated every semester.
The fact that my child will have to go through this competition in the future is appalling.
In fact, in a survey of class children in my school, most students, except a few, said they don't want to have children in the future, and one of the reasons was the fierce competition structure mentioned earlier.
Everyone talks as if the world is over if they don't get to college, and they value only profits and stability while ignoring individual talents and aptitudes.
Many foreign media, including this video, point to the problem of low birth rate in Korea and its causes, but the Korean political community is sitting on the sidelines of the worsening problem. How sad it is.
ㄹㅇ 나도 그리 생각해서 낳기가 싫다 중간고사....하...ㅠㅠㅠ
왜 방관만하고 개선할생각 안하는지
세금만 훔쳐먹고
대학교도 지금 개박살나는중임
Korean Women's Statistics No. 1 in traveling prostitution in the world No. 1 in renewed abortions No. 1 in STDs in history (4 times more than men) Lowest material index No. 1 in luxury consumption No. 1 birth rate in old age No. 1 in divorce rate Asia No. 1 in newborns with disabilities 28.5 percent.
It's not a matter of fertility, and most Korean men have no intention of marrying or even dating Korean women.
In a country with 1.2 million traveling prostitutes, an STD rate of more than 50 percent, and more than 1 million women having abortions a year, there are no more men willing to make the world's most expensive contract and lose their entire life savings.
근데 사실 우리만 그런건 아님. 인도 중국은 우리보다 더 심하다고 들음. 그냥 우리가 출산 안하고 싶다고 하는거는 인스타때문에라는 데에 동의함. 너무 상향평준화된거로 보이니까.
학교의 공부에서 가치를 느끼지못하는 것에 백배 공감합니다. 그저 경쟁을 위한 도구이고 자신의 길에 그 지식이 필요하지않다면 경쟁만을 불러일으키기에 학생들은 가치를 느끼지 못합니다.
학생들이 하고싶은걸 찾아야하는 나이에 좁은 상황에 갇혀 아주 가치가 없는 것은 아니지만, 가치가 없다고 느낄만한 지식을 머리에 우겨넣는데... 그들이 어른이되면 어떤 행동을 하기전에 그 행동에 대한 가치를 여러번 생각하고 판단하며 예민하게 행동하게 되기에 어떤것이든 보수적으로 받아들이게 되는 것 같습니다...
In Australia, 1 day of childcare costs ~70% of the amount my partner earns in a day so it's literally a choice between either career or having kids but not both.
I rather eat and have somewhere to sleep. So, if we collapse, would be a great hit to the gob.
Most people chose the lifestyle. Money is the most important thing in Western cultures. The official religions are "workism" and "wokeism."
How do we explain that developing third world countries birth rates are skyrocketing? Its an universal trend that birth rates plummet the better off a country is economically. We could blame capitalism but this system has given us all the luxuries and freedoms that we have. Id argue that its not an issue of time or money. We have all the time and money in the world compared to some people living in absolute poverty.
Holy shit i live in this country
I'm in Australia, my wife works retail, and after government rebate or childcare costs about $40 for the day, so only about 25%.
Are you sending your kids to some super fancy ELC or does your partner earn less than minimum wage?
Great video!
Personally I'm disgusted when I hear people say that you shouldn't have kids because less humans = a healthier earth.
What is Earth without humans (and any life for that matter)?
Just another lifeless rock floating in a sea of an unconscious universe.
Glad guy’s realize they don’t need to have a family to be happy
Had this convo with my friend yesterday, what her and I concluded is that its damn near impossible to raise a child effectively and work. And knowing South Korea's work culture, I think our conclusion holds up pretty well.
What I wonder is, why doesn't this hold true for countries that don't see as many working hours on average? It seems to help somewhat but it doesn't seem to fix it unless these countries simply haven't gone far enough?
@@PJ-oe6eu there's a lot of countries that cheat the system, they import people from other countries that tend to have a lot of kids as soon as they get there and see their living standards raise. It's not that simple. France is probably the best example of this, they fixed their baby problem by importing people.
@@PJ-oe6eu That's due to the simple cost of a child. For all the happiness that a child can bring for a family, they are also absolutely giant financial losses. Think of everything you need to pay for your child. Food, diapers, baby sitters if you (and/or your partner) don't have the time to be with your kid 24/7 and can't bring em to work, schooling which gets very expensive very fucking fast, a larger home if you don't already have a house that can support an extra addition to the family which means more rent to pay.
That's only some of the issues and that's without going into the fact that half of these things listed will be twice as expensive by the time your child needs it due to shit getting more expensive but wages not growing to compensate for that growth.
Also this is all assuming that your child is behaves and doesn't get into and trouble as a teenager (Or at any age really) which causes more financial issues, such as stealing, getting expelled from school, damaging property, etc.
Along aside all of this is the general stress of raising a child, the early months (and to some extent years) are extremely rough. Being woken up late at night due to your baby crying, leading to less sleep, your child being a picky eater or needing specific things done to get children to sleep (I for example had to put into the car and then driven around before I fell asleep most of the time according to my parents.) and just the general amount of things that a child that doesn't know that some things are fragile and can break without meaning to, such as vases, anything ceramic, glass wear, etc.
내 생각에는 여자들때문임. 성별갈등 조장하는 문재인 정부에 대한 20대 여성 지지율이 70퍼센트였음. pc주의 유행하니까 본인들이 계몽한 것처럼 군가산점 폐지하고 치안 세계에서 손에 꼽을 정도로 좋은 나라에서 "한국 남성이 잠재적 범죄자라느니 몰카가 어디에 있다느니 선동당해서 헛소리만 하다가 이제와서는 성별갈등 조장하지 말라고 말 바꾸고 이상한 사상 그득해서 더치페이하면 가성비 여친이다, 사랑하면 남자가 다 낸다 이런식으로 가스라이팅하는 글들이 여자들 메이저한 흐름인데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아이들을 풍족하게 키우고 싶다 이런 말 하면서 본인들이 오마카세 파인다이닝 찾아다니고 해외여행 가는 게 말이 됨? 그리고 심지어 한국여자 초혼 연령도 30대 초중반임. 결국 남자들은 20대에 군대 2년 갔다오고 공대에서 공부하는동안 여자들은 군에서 복무하는 남자들 조롱하며 20대에 놀거 다 놀고 그동안 자기계발한 경제적으로 풍족한 남자를 찾는거잖음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ. 그니까 결국 "너드남"이 유행하는건 그냥 능력 있고 순진한 남자를 잡아서 편하게 살겠다는 마인드에서 비롯한거임. 경제적으로 풍족하지 못해서 아이를 못 낳는다 이건 그냥 돈을 버는대로 다 써놓고 돈을 못 모으겠다고 불평하는 거임. 우리나라의 경제적 수준은 출산율이 하락하기 전이나 후나 비슷한데 남여 갈등 이후로 출산율이 확 낮아짐. 왜? 여자들 대다수가 선동당해서 위의 본문처럼 사니까. 심지어는 페미니스트 교수가 한국의 남성을 벌레에 비유하고 남자아이를 '한국남자유충'이라고 칭하는 반인륜적인 논문이 등재됐는데 20대 여성 대다수가 페미니스트인 한국에서 어떻게 아이를 낳을 생각을 할 수 있겠음? 유교문화를 철폐하고 스스로 진취적인 여성이라고 생각했는데 현실은 가정적이지도 못하고 능력도 없고 얼굴은 몽골 DNA가득해서 남성적인 외모를 어떻게든 성형해서 여자답게 보이는 이도저도 아닌 여자가 바로 한국여자 아님? 옆나라 일본의 "여자력"을 보고 여성인권이 낮다고 비난하고 귀엽고 여성스러운 행동을 보고 "유아퇴행"이라고 비난하는 한국여자는 어떤 모습임? 걸크러쉬? 걸크러쉬를 내세우지만 범죄진압은 못하는 여경? 결혼할 능력이 없는 걸 비혼주의로 포장하고 혼자 늙어가는 모습? 대부분의 남성이 성매매를 한다고 날조해서 비난하지만 기생으로 살던 조선인의 피를 잊지 못하고 미국에서 성매매 여성 국적의 23%를 차지한 한국 여성? 조만간 인구 절벽으로 인해 여성들도 남성들과 함께 판문점에 서서 북괴에 맞서는 날이 오길 기원합니다^^
한국 여자의 논리: 한국은 매일 여자가 죽기 때문에 한국 남자는 잠재적 범죄자이며 여성혐오자다. 난 편하고 안전한 일을 할 것이지만 돈은 고층빌딩의 외벽을 청소하는 남자만큼 줘라. 아이를 낳을 권리는 나에게 있으므로 너희들이 여성들의 요구에 따르지 않는다면 나는 비혼주의를 선언할 것이다. 물론 차은우가 강남의 건물과 명품 가방을 가지고 프로포즈 한다면 없던 일로 하고 결혼을 할 것이다.
Koreans work 40 hours - but only in theory.
Real question should be "why humans have not vanished YET"
South Korea was initially projected to have a fertility rate of 0.6 in 2035, but achieved it 10 years ahead of schedule, a feat that is unprecedented in the world.
Yeah and I feel like the predictions are very optimistic, many countries will probably fall below 2.0 faster then expected.
We just don’t wanna pop out babies it’s soo Ugh
hell yeah we be setting records in something
@@minni3723yup mini me seems torturous
they really need to improve their work and social problems. many south koreans are leaving and we have a big community of south koreans here in argentina.
most of them have kids here. on average they have 2-3. for what they told me is that they were so stressed out in korea and in argentina they have alot more of free time and they love our food too.
specially red meat and fruits that are too expensive in south korea but here in argentina is super cheap for them.
they have waaaay more free time to relax and enjoy themself here.
As a younger person I’m terrified of what the generation after us will have to deal with. I’m worried if I put kids into this world what will happen to them.
It's like that saying: A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in. Maybe we can do that.
depends on how young you are, but if you’re still part of Gen Z, you’ll most likely also be just as effected by what is happening.
@scsutton1 except now that burden falls on the few who have 0 consequences for not doing so
Tbh I’d say control what they see, hear, and learn. Schools right now speaking absolute bullshit
Why would you assume the next generation would be like the people who didn't reproduce? They are the offspring of those who reproduce despite this trend. There's no reason to believe the trend will continue for long, it's a self-ending phenomenon.
As a Chinese in my late 20s, married and working in the education industry, the odds against me and my wife having kids form an almost endless list. The disparity between our income and cost of decent education is obsurd. Let alone the arms race of education where kids are force fed with lectures and their time is saturated with test prep work to compete with others. A society that surpresses self-expression intrincically breeds more mental health risks for teenagers who need guidance, company and community to nurture their identity development and are especially vulnerable to mental health conditions. More over, a social system where teaching critical thinking skills will face punishment will likely poison the minds of children...so pesimistically speaking, the prospect of having a child does not sound very attractive
I am a Korean student. Currently, Korea does not regard the low birth rate as a major social disaster, even though it is serious. I've been taught about low birth rates since elementary school, but the only thing that changed was the declining birth rate..
yeah, the boomer don't care
kinda make sense, a lot of rich people over there are old, and old people don't care much about *having kid*, than they just demanding other people to have one.
Maybe Korean employers should not be biased against women taking maternity leave and the government should make military service for women mandatory as well.
Same thing with climate change really
Are Koreans working more hours for less? If so then that's one symptom of an aging society
I'm Italian, 29 years old. My girlfriend and I are talking about having kids in the near future. I'm really lucky she's ambitious and likes to study, because with two incomes like mine (not too low but definetely not too high either, Italian average) it's literally impossibile to raise one kid, let alone multiple. And here they wonder why young people do not want to have children. We are a failing society that keeps failing and failing facing the same problems all over again.
You mean gay
@@dallassegno which part of his comment meant gay?
@@dallassegnostupid troll 👎
@@DeletedDevilDeletedAngel yeah I dunno, that comment has me at a loss too, dude lol
@@MeGustaWHAT same here, is being italian gay? Having girlfriends gay? Too many bits and pieces xd
In germany we get parental leave, and 250$ per Child. PER MONTH. And Kindergardens are relatively cheap compared to the U.S.
And it's still hard.
Considering that it's a miracle to me, that people still get Kids in the U.S.
Really...
… they get thousands at tax time, free food, etc. lots of people have kids for a living and then suck off the government
@@MyriamRichardsdotter for a family, it'd hardly pay for 1 :/
I'm 24 and paying 75% of my income just on rent. I've never worked so hard and made so much to only be worse off the following month/year. Even in a trade job, it's been impossible to save for a car, let alone an emergency.
Exactly. Look up Weimar Germany the exact living conditions which led up to WW2. We are living in the Great Depression again.
lol and look down the street at all the brand new cars driven by 40-50 year olds as a "luxury buy" that equates to your entire savings over 40 years
I reckon you live in the USA then..
@@tactknightgaming2066 Bunch of stupid Nazis blamed Communists, Socialists, Jews, homosexuals... everyone BUT themselves.
Sounds like poor decision making.
Housing is the first reason keeping me away from having a baby, and the extra cost of childcare and education is the second one.
Answer: corporate greed and corrupt politicians making life harder for everyone for more profit.
People don't have the energy, time or finances to date anymore...let alone start a family. Year after year people are working more for lest pay as politicians try to convince us inflation is on the rise because "productivity isn't high enough" .
Meanwhile, these same politicians are the reason things are so bad in the first place.
@@ninjanate5018 It's funny that there was a recent article saying a lot of these politicians and CEOs are retiring and leaving for 3rd world countries because of 'Social decay' in their home western country.....
THIS
Hence the sudden rise of dating apps and all the bs that came with it😅
Then they complain about the massive population and welcome immigrants randomly to vote then so does dumb s*t to fund wars to kill off more civilians and drag them to unholy things they do to support trafficking. It would be better if they fund building advance vehicles a project to build colonies to different planet like earth.
Everyone who watches this should be aware that Kurzgesagt has an inherent corporate bias in all its videos. I would take everything stated in this video with a grain of salt.
Aren't they funded in part by Bill Gates?
Probably this the very first video of this channel I committed myself and I’ve felt the same way. It feels like they’ve done this for the interests of corporations.
@@sahicizmyeah
Personally the biggest blocker for me as someone with a wonderful partner, both of us working decent jobs and wanting to have a family is the cost of housing and child expenses. I feel that without a large enough house to comfortably accommodate the two children we would like, we need to get into better paying positions for that to happen which means having kids later which limits opportunity. And as said in the video, I want us both to be present in raising our children which means at least one of us would need to either change to working from home or give up on a career. I dont care about my career more than family but we both need to earn to support a family so not sure when would even be a good time. It's troubling to think about.
Just wait a few more years, I'm sure the economy will improve for the middle class, will it?
So basically the reason for no children is due to capatlism you heard it here
Meanwhile poor people shit out 8 kids lol. Just spend less on luxuries
@@princesslemmy😒
Capitalism isn't the issue, in America at least.
Don't worry, it's comparably bad for people who are single and can't afford any housing better than renting a room with random people because of the single income. It seems that the only sustainable life is bound to have one partner with no child, no more and no less.
고령화가 되면 혁신적인 발전보다는 고령인구들의 부를 지키기 위한 쪽으로만 돌아 간다는 것이 정말 지금 한국 사회랑 잘 맞는거 같네요.
저도 정확히 말씀하신 부분이 인구감소를 더 촉진시키고 있다고 생각해서 제도적인 변화가 마련돼야 할거 같네요..
이재명 지지자들 ㅜㅜ
@@Dhguenr 이러니까 나라가 망하지
@@Dhguenr지금도 윤석열이 좋니?
@@Galaxy-zc2gx 니들도
If you allow me to share my perspective: in the reality I live in, the main issue that stops people from having more kids is... Money. Jobs are paying less, everything is getting more expensive by the hour, and it's become an enormous challenge to be able to work hard enough to live by and sustain your family, while also enjoying it (even with both working). Previous generations were able to afford big houses with a low income, not to mention buying food, paying school bills, everything was cheaper. Nowadays you have to be very well off to be able to have a decent sized apartment not too far from crucial facilities such as schools, hospitals, markets... so in the end, most couples end up having less than 2 kids because the housing is small, and they'll be wasting a huge part of the income just to pay for that, so not much is left to pay for education, helathcare and food (not even mentioning transportation, electricity, internet and electronic devices, which can be considered essential in today's society and are definetely not cheap, at least not here in Brazil).
Also kids are gross.
The people making decisions are at odds with what they say they want. The people want to protect children but they oppose healthcare for children, food programs, financial assistance, childcare, etc. The people want more workers but they oppose immigration. The people want the world to be like it was back in the 50's but they don't want to roll out the social programs, strong labor unions, etc. of that era.
These problems are all eminently solvable but that assumes the people in charge actually care to solve them. Which they clearly don't, because solved problems don't get you reelected. Making the problem worse gets you reelected. That's how the GOP has been getting elected because "big government doesn't work" for decades by making the government fail to work without reducing its scale.
This is the correct perspective...it's well past time for fogies to understand that they're entirely responsible for this problem, they've created a modern setting where families can no longer have a single working parent sustainably and are too stubborn/stupid to realize that paving the way to tomorrow will require subsidizing children. 90% of the jackasses will say something akin to "I did it that way, it's just how it works", but fail to recognize how different things are today to how they were when they grew up...they essentially got handed the keys to the world whilst the pay gap is worse now than it has ever been.
Capitalism exploiting its people
@@Demmrir Exactly this! Well said.
Our societies have to change the paradigm of pursuing perpetual grow and aim at finding BALANCE and SUSTAINABILITY, that will require changes at the individual and government level.
I think it's also important to note that people want to have kids, but housing and healthcare costs are so unbearable that it's literally impractical for them to have more than one. This rings true for most of Europe, as well as places like Hong Kong and Korea.
And time, work takes so much of our time without giving back as much
정확합니다. 서울의 평균적인 아파트는 일반 직장인이 30~40년간 한 푼도 안 쓰고 모아야 살 수 있습니다.
결혼과 출산, 육아에 필요한 '집'을 위해 결혼과 출산, 육아를 포기하게 되는 아이러니함이 존재합니다.
Exactly. The average apartment in Seoul can only be bought by ordinary office workers for 30 to 40 years.
There is an irony of giving up marriage, childbirth, and parenting for the "home" needed for marriage, childbirth, and childcare.
In addition, the company forces workers to work overtime, which reduces the amount of time they can spend with the family, thus weakening family bonds.
Korea has no choice but to comply because workers exist in a very disadvantageous social position.
Yepp, even here in Sweden the housing costs are quite steep for young people to get a nice place to live. I was fortunate enough to be able to live with my parents until the age of 26 while saving every type of income I could and invest some of it. I limited the amounts I would spend and pretty much never went out to party because I felt forced (by the housing costs) to get into the housing market asap. It took me 8 years of constant saving to buy a 2 room apartment (46 sqm) with a 30% down payment and I'd consider myself lucky.
Canada
healthcare is not the problem housing is.
I used to have a friend that said, “I don’t even want to take care of myself, let alone a family.” And the more time goes on, the more I’m starting to agree.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagA man in Korea has to spend more than a year and a half without pay in the military. But in Korean society, the treatment of soldiers is treated like street dogs. And when you get married, a man has to buy a house, which costs more than $400,000. $400,000 at 30 and serving in the military service? Is this practically possible? But if you don't do this, you're a failure in society
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagIn fact, the crime rate in Korea is the lowest in the world. This person doesn't tell the truth.
@burnjapanandrisingsunflagHonestly it sounds terrible for both genders, it's ridiculous they make men waste 2 years in the most important moment of their lives to the military.
Oh you don't want to do it? social rejection, continually being humiliated and basically no job is waiting for you
So laziness
@@Arcadianx98sure, genius.
Living in Sweden, we have some support when kids are sick or when you need to take parental leave, BUT workplaces take notice of those that have sick kids for longer periods and often and they COMPLAIN and even let that guide their decisions when it comes to who is let go and who is hired. There are so many times I have listened to colleagues and BOSSES complaining to me about other, really good and sweet coworkers about their sick kids and how inefficient it is. I was baffled by this as it is a right by law to have this support AND workplaces are not allowed to let this dictate their decisions, but of course, where there is money involved, it all goes out the window. We are all just “economic growth” for any government.
Sweden sounds depressingly a lot like my country, the United States, in this regard...( I'm also a bit surprised!)
But you also have to look at it from the perspective of the founder of a company. If you pay somebody good money to work for you 40h a week, end they end up doing 20 for whatever reason and get the same pay, you'd be upset, too. I'm not saying one should cut child care or anything, but we can also not just accept people not coming to work. There must be a sweet-spot in-between.
@@argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351Thats why people wont have any children in the future and ALL humans will be replaced by robots.
this in Sweden??? i thought social safety nets where robust there, has rampant capitalism taken over the entire world?
@@argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351there is none. Sick children need care at home. That or no children.
9:41 This is so me. A young and motivated individual from a poor country looking for a better opportunity on a developed (first world) country. lol
This video mentions individualism as one possible cause, but with Japan at least, the opposite seems to have more effect: Their collectivist views basically go towards constant self-sacrifice in the name of society, at the expense of not being able to give enough focus to build up yourself and your family. Like, that stupid custom of having to go drinking with your boss, or the one of not being able to leave early because the first one to go is a bad worker. I'm sure a lot of people would rather use that time to date, or spend it around your partner, or with your kids.
@@crazypasta7749 Are you mentally challenged?
There are definitely people who will have less children or none at all due to individualism, as with all things, extremism is negative. This can be said for so many things but the balance has to be found.
@@slicedonion8313 I agree. Personally I believe in the needs of the many, the common good, but I think is very important to keep in mind that "society" is not a real, physical thing, society is the individuals within it, and benefiting society is supposed to be beneficial for the individuals within it. Sacrificing too much the individual in favor of the society is a self-defeating endeavor.
but everywhere else in the world seems to prove the opposite
there are but not the majority@@slicedonion8313
To pass on what I've heard from many young people: if you would like them to consider children, pay them a fair and living wage, with actual job stability, allow for family leave from work, and provide accessible and non-budget-busting healthcare. That's it. That's the floor of solidity upon which to build a family (another floor is full community support, but that's not all too common anymore). The erosion of wages and job security (especially starting in the 80s), coupled with healthcare issues and existential threats, has made having children so fraught that many are, logically, opting out. Tut tutting them while you pilfer their paycheques won't make it better.
“That’s it” hahaha making that happen is pretty much impossible.
@@SebastianLopez-nh1rrit’s possible but definitely improbable. The ultra rich will favor profits over people so our living conditions will likely not change.
@@SebastianLopez-nh1rrget used to lower birthrate then
Even though it is this simple, this is a solution for future generations. If this is indeed the prescription it would take to solve it, then it is logistically unfeasible to put it in place for the current generation, necessarily making current generation adults out of luck.
And free time!
If only they released this video a few weeks ago, I had to write an essay on the decline in fertility, and this would have been helpful 😅
Sorry bud 🤣
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Ive got an exam for APHUG tomorrow... so eh... good timing for me.
me too man, i realized population was growing fast and this appeared
At least in your school the students are tasked to study TRUTH. In our school it is widely spread by teachers that "the earth has too many people" and that we all should be panicking about that. This is what I call: UNESCO propaganda.
Shift away from the GDP-centric mindset that values work over family. Companies aim to maximize employee productivity while minimizing costs, often exploiting a vast pool of inexpensive labor. This creates pressure on workers to extend their hours, disregarding their physical and mental health and family well-being. In India, wealthy owners expect youth to work 70 hours a week, believing it will boost productivity and profits.
I feel like this video doesn't address the underlying issue with birth rates: The cost of healthcare, the cost of taking care of a child, and the absolutely crushing lack of opportunity and uncertainty of the future, loss of faith in the society you're growing up in, and a lack of societal stability giving you confidence to procreate and ensure a stable springboard for your progeny. People have kids when they have hope, and that's at a critically low supply right now
This video doesn't address other main issues like the insane inequality in wealth distribution, where 99% of people work their whole lives to be paid miserably while 1% is swimming on gold.
Yeah just like whole comment section, what really cause the all problems? Capitalism is.This Chanel is nothing but a distraction.
Totally agree, neither does it address capitalism.
The poor have more kids both within and across countries. The cost of healthcare and taking care of a child is not the main issue at all.
Come to Germany with very cheap healthcare, free schools and universities, as well as free kindergartens in some states.
Working times are still too long (40 hour weeks are unfortunately the norm) which leaves too little time for oneself and a family
I'm 35 and I still live with three roomates who also aren't in relationships because it takes four working adults with decent job to have a condo and a couple of cars, and have enough left to cover our expenses in and save a city that has actual viable career paths. I kind of still feel like too much of a loser to date even though I have an education and a better job than most of my friends. Wages are a joke if I pick something stable with insurance, and if I want to make more money efficiently I have to take on results oriented gigs and work insanely fast... and not have benefits. It'd sure be nice if the old farts stopped gouging us all on housing and paid us for labor.