The WORST Graphics Card - The Geforce2MX400
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Hello and Welcome to another video where today we'll be taking a look at the Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 which is one of the worst card's ive still seen for sale in stores and online, sure it was mid-range...but that was 17 Years ago, so it's a wonder they can still sell it... But we like to see what cards can do more than what they can't.
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GPU: Nvidia Geforce2 MX400
Wow, if you get 4 of these running in SLI you might be able to play minesweeper.
Slash687 get 4 of these sli pcs and u can run pong
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I think the GT 210 finally met its match.
The gt210 is much faster actually then this card.
The gt 210 is the mx 400 of its era though :P
unnamed715 no, the 210 is much like selling a TNT under the GeForce 2 name.
Nvidia GeForce 8400 gs
My GT210 plays Halo CE playably so this GPU is a lot worse
The 8600 GT was a case of a great upgrade for people with older hardware but was a horrible buy considering it was completely inadequate for the games that came out in the next two years. You could have had an HD 3850 or even a 9600 GT less than a year later for the same money and these GPUs handled themselves far better against 2008 games or even games like Left 4 Dead at higher resolutions like 1650x1050
"Legendary pile of shit"
glorious piece of junk ahead KeK
it wasn't supposed to be named "piece of shit". bro, sure. we all know this GPU now is almost useless. but look at the times when it was released! it wasn't really that bad in those days.
I've seen way worst fidget spinners. I feel lied to
My laptop has radeon hd6250 graphics, now I feel like I have gtx 1080 after watching this xD
I have gtx 750 , now I feel like i have a gtx titan xp 3×
A 1050 Ti and an i7 7700k? If I were you, I'd spend more money on the GPU, and get an i5.
Razor MAN you have to step up to a 1080, since the mining craze made 1060 and 1070 prices explode, same goes for the rx470, 480, 570 and 580.
having RX 480 still feels like having RX 480
nightknight hey we have the same name :)
During it's original run the MX400 was an awesome card. Retail outlets stocks were plentiful and pricing was very modest. Before Nvidia got shady and created the Geforce 4 MX420/440/460 series it was marketed in an honest fashion. A budget card you could play games on and a cheap option for OEM systems.
It was just behind the Geforce 2 GTS, very nice card that i had back in 2002, and it was enough for most games of that time
wtf? the mx 400 was the best price/performance gpu back then...
imaging the 1080ti in 20 years....
Krisztian5HUN Back then...
GTX1060 in 2000
Feelin old yet?
1080ti is not relative, as this is not the "Ti" of its generation. The "GeForce 2" was, MX400 was more like a 1070. 1080ti is just the best the best performance gpu of our day, which this mx 400 was not.
Actually the MX or GeForce 2 generation did have a "Ti" but back then "Ti" meant was a budget efficient card. "Ti" meant what it did today, basically "the highest of a generation". But they only would make a "Ti" once a generation was obsolete. When GTX 3 gen was releasing stage 1 cards, they released a "Ti" of GTX 2 to ship as budget mid-range. Generations where much shorter back then and sometimes new gens would introduce compatibility issues. So "Ti" would still meant the best of generation, but it would only be released when that gen was replaced for those who preferred the 2 series. The Ge Force 2 Ti actually beat out alot of the early Ge Force 3's
But why..... Buy used when you can get this GPU new in box and regret our life choices...
Magic mushroom: Cause it's *new* it lives longer...I pity those who still buy em.
Budget-Builds Official if I got this one as my main gpu I would want it die so I can get an upgrade :p
Did you forget to turn of vsync on the steam version ?
gl_vsync 0 needs to be put in the console when starting it as last time i checked the option too turn it off in the menu doesnt work properly.
With vsync on even my R9 280 struggled to keep a consistent framerate.
I had nothing else to game on back in the day, so I even played games pretty far removed from its launch on it - Half Life 2, Halo CE, etc. It was..Pretty horrible, lol. I'd sometimes go to 800x600 and get 15fps, but back then I could tolerate it.
This was one of the best value cards back in 2000, I had the Abit variant and played a lot of DirectX 7 contemporary titles back then
Which titles?
Exactly, this video was hard to watch, he had no idea what he was talking about. He probably makes fun of old and retired wrestlers too for not being able to wrestle anymore. Same for other people in this comment section comparing it to newer GPUs
It was powerful at the time. I mean, with a Pentium 3 at 600 MHz and 6 MBs of video on the motherboard I could play Resident Evil 2 & 3, FF VIII, StarCraft, Croc and others.
Take Hiro LOL I upgraded a Gateway 450 with a Piii 500 and a 2MX 400 both I found in a scrap pile for free with 512mb of RAM and a Sound blaster Live
Dewott Wow, nice! My first PC was first with only 64 MB RAM and then I upgraded it to 196 MB. So much faster!
Bro.. them were the days! This was actually my first gpu.
Played Unreal Tournament 2004 with it and 256 megs of ram
@@ccricers Nice, that was the game I played a lot in my first job.
Wtf, I used to have a Geforce 2 TI, and a Pentium 2, 64mb vram, 64mb system ram, (I wasn't very smart back then), but it ran much better than this card, I could even play Doom III !
television and cheese: The Gerorce 2 Ti had alot more power than this, this sometimes even lost to the Geforce 256 in certain games.
Something is wrong with your card here - GeForce 2 MX400 is quite capable card for playing games from that era - I`m 100% sure you could play Half Life 1024x768. I played it on A LOT slower card (ATI RAGE PRO) on 800x600. Could be driver issue or the card is not functional 100%.
+Feiticeira Fatale
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, my Geforce 2 Ti, although more powerful, wasn't much ahead, I'm sure a solid 30-40 fps at least in HL1 at 1280x1024. I think is a driver issue, probably because this card is brand new somehow.
The steam version of half-life forces vsync on which needs "gl_vsync 0" before you launch a map too actually turn it off.
Even my factory overclocked R9 280 struggled to keep it smooth in some places with it on when vsync was enabled.
you could easily play hl @ 1280x960 with this card.
heck, half life would almost constantly hit fps cap on my voodoo2 8mb paired with an athlon 700mhz (although only @ 640x480 as a single card. it could do it at 1024x768 with a sli setup though). at the time i had a geforce 2 GTS, which is one model above the mx400 and not that much faster, and it would run any of the then current games @ 1280x960 no sweat. the first game to give it a run for its money was ut2003
This was the first GeForce I got as a kid. I paired it with an AMD K6-2 and got terrible performance, not better than with my then current Trident Blade 3D card (except in OpenGL games, were I saw a clear improvement) . I was so mad that I demanded a refund on the card. Years later I learned that my CPU was a serious bottleneck and that it hasn't been the card's fault.
Mighty Duck: The mighty K6.... Final defeated I see.
Mighty Duck ah a trident Blade3D, I got one of those out of a dump. I somehow got it working on a modern windows 7 PC, with the official driver installed. Even at 800X600 it literally struggled to run the desktop. You know a card is complete trash when it cannot even run the desktop at at least 30 FPS, I'd estimate the mouse pointer was moving at like 15, of course I didn't try any games on it, as from reviews I seen from back in the day, it was kinda shit when it was new 20 years ago...
Justin Noker Well, Windows 7 is overkill for that card. But in its day it could run Half Life and Need for Speed III respectably.
Mighty Duck overkill? You mean too much? Lol.
K6II 550 is roughly as fast as a Pentium II 400, the K6III as well as the K6II+ / K6III+ were far better but were a rarity even then. The motherboard cache made a HUGE difference on Socket 7 machines too as well as the chipset used. If it was no cache and the chipset was SIS you better learn to be patient.
8fps on Half life 1 XD
Even worse: AT THE LOWEST SETTINGS
RAWRrRRRRr EKS DEEEE
Yes, it has 8FPS on the Steam version, but if you have an original copy you can easily get 60FPS+. Also, Half-Life didn't really have graphics settings to change if I remember correctly.
Its OpenCL Rendered.
The original version runs on my retro laptop's 2mb graphics card at around 30+ FPS in software mode (it has no 3d acceleration) in 400x300, and at ~20 FPS in 640x480. Mind you, it's a 300MHz Pentium 2 :D
My first card. Morrowind, Gothic, Baldur's Gate, WC3, HL, CS. It was popular in Russia in the early 00's.
BUT CAN IT RUN CRYSIS
John Plays Yeah it runs Crysis over -0 fps
Obviously
Yes, at -60 fps
The GPU is a Crysis itself lmao
It runs as far away from Crysis as it can get
I had this GPU back in 2001. Great memories! 😊Even if it wasn't the fastest in the world, it did play games surprisingly well. Also, Half-Life 1 didn't ran at 8 FPS. I'm not sure how you did the tests. I remember it being buttery smooth in that game. The GF 2 MX400 even ran Unreal Tournament 2003 pretty well as well as many other games. It's really not that sh*t as people make it out to be.
Windows moment
Use wine
He literally shown the retail version running at 70+ FPS afterwards. 8 FPS is the newer Steam version which is more intensive
Damn look at that single VGA Vid output
I have one and it can run all games in 4k ultra settings above 70fps.
Lol below 900 fps peasant
the human eye cant see below 10 fps anyway
@@RussellPlaysMods What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
@Blake Belladonna i have 40-70 fps for most games on lowest settings. most i get is 100-120
@Chromosome whoooshhh
Intel GMA 950 is better than that lmao
My laptop that I use today has Intel GMA 950....
It can't even render when I move windows around.
That gpu is speedy af ;-). A great video once again
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I get 60 fps on open gl on the WON version of Half-Life on Windows 98 with a geforce2 mx 200
Geforce 2 MX was a great value card back then lol the Geforce 4 MX however was another story :(
You know what? I might buy one of these! I have a 15 year old laptop lying around in a box, and I plan to repair the thing. It’s been falling apart for years and it’s a bit of wreck these days, missing parts, broken parts, all sorts of issues including some fried drivers preventing it from booting. Getting parts is getting harder and harder and I’m worried I’m gonna lose the poor thing, so as this GPU would actually be an upgrade compared to the potato it used back in the day, (which I’m not sure is even working anymore.) and might be worth it. Then again though, if I can find a more powerful card that works with such ancient architecture, I’ll probably get one of them instead.
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You should checkout the ATI Rage XL 8MB PCI Video Card. Or really any video card under 16mb.
BreadGod I have the same card .i kept it as an antique now have a 1080ti
Budget-Builds Official: The MX400 was a good card for it's era 2002/2003 , considering that the wholesale predecessor of this card for mainstream desktops at the time was the GeForce MX 100/200. Many of us spent our youth running everything from Quake 3 and Serious Sam 2, to emulators and video editors on such 32 and 64MB AGP cards.
I think every 400-600 dollar pre-built PC came with one of these back in the day. My HP Pavilion had one and it was OK for gaming as long as you didn't care too much about high settings. I couldn't play with more than 1024x768 anyway, so that was fine. I think the successor to this card was the Geforce 4 MX-400 (which wasn't a real Geforce 4, but a card based on the Geforce 2 generation) and Geforce FX 5200.
So you think this is worse than the GT210. with a whole 16 cuda cores.
Steven Anderson i have that in my pc and i do video editing, its horrible :(
The computer its in is a Dell Dinension E520 it was my mothers i built her a computer and she gave me her old one so i put 8 gigs of ram in it put a Q6600 cpu in it and all it had was VGA out so i put the GT210 in sense it has a hdmi out and thats the only reason i put it in i will put a gtx 1050 in it some day.
Steven Anderson thats awesome! i unfortunately have an all in one pc that i cant upgrade so ive gotta stick to this for a while and forget the upgrade path
sorry wish i could help.
dont worry about it xd
It was a classic in its era, one thing it DID have was hardware TnL, unlike the atrocious Radeon 7000/VE
Was common in gaming cafes at 2002-2004, when even the Riva TNT 2 was still present. Oh, that OpenGL renderer, i remember.
I played GTA3 and Vice city on this.
Yea, me too! It ran these pretty decently.
It's a good card for retro builds! It's cheap and works well for early Pentium, K6-3, and Athlon systems.
These were great budget cards back in the day
Hey, that was my first GPU. And it was amazing.
Also, mine ran Painkiller on minimum graphics perfectly...
I had a GeForce 2 MX200 in the early 2000s and I remember it dishing out decent performance.
You think that's bad? Try the Geforce2 MX200. I have one. It's horrible XD
Can it run cs 1.6 ??
I had this card 14 years ago and I remember it being buttery smooth with CS 1.6.
I remember my first PC. AMD Spitfire @ 650MHz, 512MB RAM, 20GB HDD and... GeForce4MX440... I've literally rap3d this PC when I had it. I recall that I wanted to play Postal2. So I installed it and on it's first run the game popped me a message stating that my PC is far below the minimum system requirements and if I continue it will impact the game's performance. Back then I didn't care so I went on. What impressed me was that I could run the game maxed out! All gfx details were set to max and the resolution too. It ran perfectly fine except when I died because when you die in Postal2 you literally drop everything you have around your corpse. And when all those objects were spawned in the game world my FPS went to shit for a few seconds and then it was all normal.
I'd love to see some GF4 videos in the future. I wonder what will it be to really push it to it's limits...
You should do a video of the best gaming PC that you can build still using an AGP card.
You made a slight mistake in this video and I thought you might want to know. The GeForce2 MX 400 variant that you have is an ultra budget 64-bit SDR variant. It's not the actual MX 400 as per nVIDIA spec which used 128-bit SDR. There are also 64-bit DDR variants but they don't apply here. Your card is like this one: www.ebay.com/itm/Inno3D-MX400-64-Bit-64MB-AGP-VGA-Garphics-Card-FREE-SHIP-/222264336668
Your card is severely crippled. If you'd like to see the GeForce 2 MX 400 in all of its glory than look no further than the Hercules 3D Prophet II MX: www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item/242-nvidia-geforce2-mx
Thinking of replacing my r7 265 for sli x8 of these
If you had an early Pentium PC with basic VGA card....Geforce 2 was a huge boost in performance.
17 years ago ? Man, I had a MX440 in my pentium IV PC when I was a child. First PC we ever had, it had an ugly purple fan on it but it could play Dofus so I was happy about it anyway. So much souvenirs ...
I had the PNY version in my first gaming pc back in 2001. Back then I saw the night and day difference an accelerator card could do paired with an AMD Duron 1000mhz and 128mb of ram. The fact it's still being sold new now is absurd. Unless you're doing a Windows 98/XP circa 2001 retro PC it's pretty useless now.
Lol, 1v1 mah GT 710 m8!
This was my first video card. Went from playing Diablo 2 and Sim City 3000 unlimited at about 15 fps on low settings to 30+ FPS on the highest settings. Last game I remember playing on it was The Sims 2. I miss you baby.
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Better than titan
Better than Europa
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oh it's the graphics card variant of Intel hd
I I this makes intel hd look like a Titan V
Intel integrated graphics from this era was *much* worse. Intel Extreme graphics it was called. No hardware T&L and about as fast as the very obsolete TNT2 M64.
That card actually supported OpenGL 1.2 100%. The issue you had with OGL games was due to missing OGL drivers and relying on the Windows CPU emulated minigl.
Great Video once again man!
Also, HAPPY 13 000 subs!
BTW my GTX 1060 3GB arrived yesterday, and I might make a video on it.
Razor MAN: Go for it, I'll check it out.
You have to check this out, it is so weird, when this was written, DX8 and GDDR2 were brand new! hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/255-geforce-2-ti-shootout/
I had this. I bough it mistakenly as i thought it was a geforce 4
GeForce 4 mx440 ran GTA sa @ above 60fps in 768p
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I love you videos, the way you swear so casually in your voice overs combined with great script writing/delivery keeps it entertaining :D
For an early 2000s card it's really not that bad. I had this in my budget PC that had AMD Duron 1,3 GHz + 256 MB SDRAM and this card, i think it was the weaker MX200 version. It was easily overclockable to about 220 MHz clock speed without any additional cooling required.
Games I've played on this setup:
-GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas. All ran acceptably in 640x480, 20-40 FPS
-Soldier of Fortune 2
-Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy
-Max Payne 2
-Gothic 1 and 2
I had to run most of them in 640x480, sometimes 800x600. It was not until 2005-ish where I ran into problems where games wouldn't launch at all due to shader requirements. This was the point of changing the card to 6600GT which was one of the best budget cards ever released
Y r u reviewing a fidget spinner?
Pretty much the only use of the card
the geforce 2 mx 400 is a great card for a windows 98 system
great card is the voodoo 5 for win 98
I love your channel, reviewing cheap things makes things better since the items are availible to everyone.
I ve had this card 13 14 years ago and it was still ok. Played diablo2, counter strike 1.6, serious sam, half life and many others, even newer like nfs hot pursuit2, nfsu1. It is a legendary gpu.
my worst gpu is gt 610 1 db ddr 3 version
kronos 222 my moms prebuilt has that and its quite shit but ive played and completed a lot of games on it.
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ouch
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My worst is a nVidia RIVA TNT2
*still better than my AMD Radeon HD 6310*
Clark W. How
also better than my 1080ti
Bomb omb battlefield song in background of video:
Me:SOLD!
By rewatching this video I've now been able to identify old AGP card I ripped out of an old Dell machine I found in the trash, it's the Dell Geforce 3 seen when you scroll through ebay at the end.
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I used to have this card in my PC from 2004 to the end of 2008 and I don't remember it being that bad. Thank god I got a GTX 1070 right now. I sure came a long way with graphics cards.
Any good finds you got? I got a i3-2120 PC that they said it was broken. I tested it, it didn't power on, so I thought it was going to be recycled. So I put it on a cardboard box as a basic testing area, and it worked! So after testing it, I threw it into a spare ATX case my dad had. It had 2GB DDR3, now it has 4GB DDR3 RAM and it's going to be 8GB DDR3. And it was $5. Yes, $5.
*A LEGENDARY PILE OF SHIT* I lost it XD
It is not the worst, It is just old, Plus it wasn't that bad back in days, Congratulations for 13k subs, Good night.
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Looks like a driver problem. The original HalfLife ran well on that gpu in 1600x1200 with an athlon xp slower than that p4. Desktop mswindows xp ran fine in a resolution that high and with 2 monitors. You'd need to try different drivers per game. In win-xp and win98, I played (on low settings) farcry and hl2 on a 1.4GHz p4 on that card with only 32meg video RAM. In the day, the card was low power and gave DVI and svideo on win95, with plenty driver choices.
You should do a budget build server. I did one on my channel, it was a lot of fun. I wonder what you could keep your budget under...
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I had a GeForce 2 MX400 64MB. This card allowed me to play GTA San Andreas (at 640x480) and enjoy that game. Had it from 2002 to 2006. Good memories.
Lol I still have his card's big brother, the Geforce 2 Ultra in my trusty old Dell Dimension 8100 bought new in late 2000 I believe.
This was the video card that came with my brand new PC with Windows XP Home Edition back in 2001. And it got the job done, running games Like Lego Island 2 or Star Trek Voyager Elite Force. I have nothing but fond memories of this little piece of hardware, regardless of what anyone says.
If u have not done a video of this yet, u can also go the other way look at the Rtx 2080ti
Back in the day I bought the PCI variant of this card, it is 128 mb which back in the day was overkill. It was a damn good gpu for it's time, there wasn't anything that it couldn't run back in the day. This card helped me through my first days in Ragnarok Online which makes it hold a special place in my heart. It still works, in fact the whole pc works besides the original hard drive that died like 12 years ago and to be fair it runs Metal Gear Solid Integral even better (better pixels) than my geforce 9500 and 770 because it supports a specific type of textures that went unsupported sometime after the jump to the AGP port.
I'm always excited for whenever you upload a new video
Kenneth Eisenhower: I've got some even better video's on the way ;)
It was totally amazing in GTA 3 and Need For Speed Underground, it was my first OWN GPU, which I've bought for my first PC with AMD Duron 750MHz, K7S5A motherboard and 256MB RAM in 2*DDR1 and 2*SDRAM sticks :D and huuuuge 320GB IDE drive
Yes. I had a Duron 700 MHz setup around the same time.
@KJER ERRT Yeah that's true, but I was like 11 that time :D so it was huge for me, especially from TNT2 Aladdin integrated onboard on family's computer
This graphics card serves very well on my Windows 98 machine. It's able to run Quake III arena and UT1999 with very good frame rates. For Windows 98 this card isn't that bad at all.
Gta vice city, jedi Outcast, jedi academy, etc ran well at 800x600
I think I did have a MX 200 or MX 400 back in the day, it runs original half-life, GTA VC and many other games of its time quite decently, on 800x600 resolution. Since most monitors back then only support up to 1024x768, they were the best bang for their buck.
Way back when I had a choice between this card and fully-fledged GeForce 2 but only with 32 MB of VRAM. I went with fully-fledged chip. Glad I did.
But what about GeForce 4 MX400? Those were very popular too. Were they marginally better than this one, or just cheap?
This was my first ever video card. Coming from running old games in software mode, this was a great upgrade.-
The GF 2 MX and MX400 were the best mid-end cards in 2000 and 2001.
To be fair this card is from 2001, any card from back than would be considered terrible now.
Nuts how much Technology improves in such a "short" amount of Time. Imagine what we'll have in like 20 or so years, you wont be picking different cards and manufacturers because the Performance is better because Performence is as good as it would ever have to be. You'd be choosing between manufacturers because that one Card looks cooler.
This was my first GPU.It was expensive as hell back then.If i remember correctly,i paid around 250 USD for this card.But i could play almost any game then.. :)
I hated my P4 came with it, but it wasn't as disappointing as when it died and the manufacturer replaced it with a Geforce 4 MX 440. Which is essentially the same card clocked slightly faster. No pixel shader, just vertex shaders. Been ATI/AMD ever since.
One thing I'd like to actually know is how the card fares at playing videos at typical resolutions such as 480p, 720p and 1080p...
2:50 Ahhhhhh yes, time for that daily dose of smooooooooth jazz!
3:00 WTF THATS LIKE MY COMPUTER.
Actually my laptop is slower nvm continue your day.
I have one installed on my Dell dimension 4600, w/ a P4 2.8ghz w/hyperthreading. My monitor has only 1600x900 resolution so... It's only being used to surf the net, check emails, and watch youtube, all but painfully. It's a spare machine, not my main.
This was my first real graphics card back in the day, I played so many hours of Counter Strike with this. Before that I had some random "2D/3D" card, that actually couldn't do any 3D, it didn't support OpenGL, Direct3D or anything else, so I had to run everything in software mode, the GF2MX was such a huge step up for me.
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Nice video, although I disliked it because of its misleading title. The MX400 is perfect for retro gaming, especially for late 90's titles and some early 00's too. It was a cheap version of the legendary Geforce 256.
A Chinese manufacturer used to sell these as fx 6200 .... They were selling like crazy in here
I got disappointed to see that it ran half life great in directx :P Awesome video man, keep em coming! (And you play quake 3? I love that game, have you finished it?)
Try to find an even worse card next time... Though I'm not sure if it is possible.
Should have tried to run Far. cry on this, if farcry even supports dx7...
kakoka1pro: Oh I'm sure knowing me I can find a worse card... And still get carried away playing it... As for Quake I love Quake III, even have it on Dreamcast.
Must be pretty weird when you see your neigbour filming a graphics card in a tree.