@@Patchuchan Since Pfsense 2.5 will require AES-NI (www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-5-and-aes-ni.html), it probably would not be a good pfsense box. Now the pfsense fork, OPNsense, doesn't have that requirement.
idk how my intel gma can handle aero with only 1gb of ram and it uses 300 mb lol and it can handle mc 1.0 with fast settings and 6 render distance with a weak texture pack. (intel atom 450 with intel gma 3150 it can also handle 720p with the OFFICIAL drivers lol
He's back! I believe I had an Acer netbook with that CPU. It was actually reasonably useful with using Office and browsing the Internet. But I must have gotten frustrated with it, because I bought a proper laptop shortly after :)
N450 eh.. I played an old version of ePSXe with dx3D 6 petes plugin.. I love it. The only problem with the N450 is that... you'll have trouble running anything past 2002.
If anyone has the N450.. I gladly teach you how to overclock it with setFSB and get the custom gpu drivers. Hell.. you should even run a Windows 7 lite version on it.. but if you find drivers for Windows 2000.. thats the OS you should run.
having a custom resolution made just for gaming.. like 512x300 would help you a lot. Beside that.. you would need to disable any post processing thing a game uses.
@@naikjoy Don't see at all how Windows 2000 would be of advantage compared to Windows XP. But otherwise... yeah I remember having a GPU overclock utility!
I remembet that GMA overclock program lol and custom drivers For psx though, try connectix VGA -- if that thing in Pentium I can run PSX games flawlessly, an Atom would run circles! Its super smooth, just no special features like savestates and custom resolutions. Sony even bought it and its the PS1 emulator inside the PSP and PS3
My dad still uses one of these and blames the fact that pages take 5 mins to load on our WiFi...still it's cool you can run windows on such a low voltage
@@Lollllllz it isn't, the network card works fine, and our WiFi is 30mb/s, it is the CPU it can barely run windows let alone edge. They really are sucky CPUs, I only have an i5 3230m and it's (according to usermark) 1000% better
@@flyde6521 Buy the old geezer a cheap Chromebook that's not near it's end of life date for support, and you won't have anymore dad bitching issues, I did that with my elder aunt, and have not had a tech support call in over year that had to do with her laptop lol!
Is indeed the cpu too weak/lacking proper decoders. A facebook page can take 1+min even if loads properly, on a freshly windows install, with every possible service and program blocked. I had linux mint on a asus 1001px and everything worked great, much faster web browsing.
@@bluebandit5586 I used Debian age 2-13. I love Debian, it's fine. I just don't really like Debian-based distros. Honestly if you want the closest thing to Windows on Linux, yeah go ahead and use Ubuntu or Mint with Cinnamon or whatever the fuck with KDE. But when I use Linux, I want to use Linux, not switching over to Linux because it's free and having it be as close as possible to Windows by using Mint and running every application with Wine. And yeah I use Arch, but that's just because it's easier than Debian and the community is more active. Good luck getting shit for Debian when Debian-based distros like Ubuntu get more recognition and use ppa bullshit that's broken on Debian.
My mom bought one of these netbooks in early 2010 with a similar atom. I remember it being a decent little thing. It was powerful enough to play RuneScape with my brother even at 4 or 5 years old.
Same! - Its funny, I think I recall playing the Sims on the Netbook I had. This was pre Steam so at first it was annoying due to the lack of internal CD drive, till I learned about no CD patches.
I use MSI U90 on antix/xubuntu nowadays as main driver. It has 2GB of ram, and N270 overclocked to 2GHz. Also I used GMABooster to take the GPU to 400MHz. It can run 720p videos in SMPlayer with ease, as well as in Kodi whilst streaming. With CoreAVC plugin on Win7, it uses about 60% of CPU to run 1080p videos. Also, Quake III works quite well. I simply cannot bring myself to buy new PC as long as I don't get to do serious programming in Uni, since CodeBlocks and a bit of Eclipse for java works just fine on this one...
Now we have the N100, which is the spiritual successor to the Atoms, it's based on Alder Lake, has 4 E cores, and Quick Sync video decoding, all for 6W
Nah, it's much better though. The N100 can actually run older AAA titles pretty well. IIRC even Doom 2016 is sort of playable. GTA V runs at PS3/X360 settings pretty well.
I transformed one of those things into a non-stop running HTPC for my parent's fitness room. It plays an infinite loop of downloaded Ramones clips into the TV from a thumb drive. Father is a great singer.
I used a laptop with an Atom N280 in 2019 as my current PC didn't have a GPU and my current GPU still had about a week to ship. Yes; an actual potato WILL perform better.
Wowww this takes me back I remember being stuck with an Atom N270 based netbook for a couple of years, I'm pretty sure that any of todays budget machines are an absolute dream compared to what I was stuck with back in 2009. It's always fun to see how much you can do when stuck with an insanely slow CPU though and watching this definitely gave me some flashbacks. :P
finally a new video, got back to rewatching some of your content lately, loving it man, keep up the great work! the Atoms were always really interesting to me because of the extremely low TDP, like some newer ones (x7-z8750), with 4cores and 4 threads, has a TDP of 2W. and it actually ran stuff better than I thought it would. and fuck, your voice is sexy, i missed it. BTW I'm Kakoka, this is my second channel. Also my main rig with the HD4670 died 2 days ago, PSU blew up(I put in a x3470 to replace the i3-550, which has a TDP of 95W compared to 71W, it lasted for 3 weeks but the poor 250W PSU couldn't handle it), I'm gonna test the system with some other PSU someday
I miss my little netbook. I used to play early Minecraft on it while deployed, and its battery lasted longer than everyone else’s laptop, and it came with a camera for Skype. It eventually died when I spilled a drink on it.
@@CreepebrineMC yeah true , but knowing budget builds , he would propbably test that since the adapter costs 15£ and its easy to set up, the gpu's are also pretty cheap sp yeah, is that 20£ upgrade werf it
As it is my first laptop in my entire life, I hold it dear to me because up until now, I still have it beside me. I remember when I was still 14 years old that I create/edit youtube videos in it so I could try the feeling of being a RUclips content creator. But, of course. The specs isn't enough. I remembered the old days when I read throughout every system requirements just to be able to fully run a game without any hiccups. The old days. Those were golden memories... Also, try using Osu! as a benchmark for low spec pc cause the game can run on a potato and the game is also fun to play!
I think we had that Atom in a Packard bell back in the day and damn was it slow. I have such bad memories with it since we had to survive with it for over a year due to how our family desktop died and we had to wait until we could get a new one..
Funny I stumbled on your video the day after I gave a new lease of life to my EeePC 900a (atom N270, even less powerful than yours) by installing the linux antiX distribution on it. For all you said here which is right on the money, let me point out that if you're not a gamer, the wimpy eeepc 900a runs libreoffice without breaking a sweat. In ten years I used it countless of times to correct on the fly some jobs I was paid to do. In the train, in cars, in planes, on vacations, anywhere. Each time I've charged my client more than the price I bought this machine new back in 2008 ; so in 10 years, this machine probably paid for itself a couple dozen times. Not bad. Today it's semi-retired, but I have a 7yo son that's not yet ready for AAA action, and Ltris, xgalaga and a couple of other 2d or puzzle games will keep him occupied while this machine itself is ideally rugged to handle his temper, but light enough he can haul it everywhere like a handheld game console. So depending on your needs, such a computer can be in fact an ideal budget solution for some use cases.
Notice how different result in running games on Linux NATIVELY and in Wine - this is exact reason why linux community demands for actual port and native build and not another "lets wrap stuff in wine" answers. RUclips on Linux with Firefox? Say WHAT? You should use Smplayer with MPV, i guess it would allow higher resolution and maybe even hardware acceleration if there any. Also, about setup linux on Atom, well, you missed most fun it has before. At ti,e when netbooks was fresh, its was hardly possible to run stock kernel on such machines. For example i had one of eeePC with Atom and i had to use special kernel made by fans to get stuff (bluetooth, Wifi) actually working. Needless to say, years after that, when i tried to revive device with just Lubuntu everything worked fine from the box, since needed drivers and patches found their way in stock distro kernel.
Hello. You seem to know this thing. Could you point me in the right direction? I have a HP-mini-110 with Atom-N450 lying around and I want this PC to be able to perform facebook browsing with chrome and facebook video calls so that my mom can use it. It came with Windows 7 Starter 32 bit. Do you think, this 64 bit capable processor could benefit from a 64 bit operating system? Which operating system should I use? Windows 7, Mint, Lubuntu, or just Debian? and 32-bit or 64-bit? So far, I have tried Windows 7 x86, Debian x64 and Lubuntu x64. All of them had similar performance. The video call was stuttering and system monitors showed the CPU to be the bottleneck. I also used firefox and search for some light browser alternatives but couldn't find anything. I read somewhere, the gma3150 can hardware acclerate only mpeg2 videos, nothing later. I just want this pc to handle 1-to-1 facebook video calls. Can this laptop do that? How can I achieve that?
Glad to see the official budget builder is back! When you mentioned how to get it for free, I chuckled since about 2 months back, I picked a Dell netbook with an Atom N455 out of the recycling. Could barely get it to run Lubuntu let alone game. Also, browsing was exactly as bad as you suggested (240p was only way to get good enough frames to watch).
I was gifted an Aspire One D255 (with that processor) back in 2011. Poor little thing struggled even to load Android 1.0 (it was in dual-boot with 7 Starter). To this day, only the motherboard and the original 1GB of RAM have survived, but it was such a fantastic experience tinkering with it (it still run Ubuntu 64bit better than 7 Starter).
I recently found my old Toshiba NB200, uses the N280 Atom. I put a 2Gb stick of ram, and a 120Gb SSD in it and it runs Linux Mint XFCE fairly well. It's proving to be a very usable device.
Aah yes, I remember this well. Nice video. This reminds me very much of the Acer Aspire One ZG5 that you tested previously (N270/GMA950) as well as the HP Mini 110 that I recently sold online for a friend (again, N270/GMA950). And performance was basically not much different. I still reckon that GTA Vice City would have been better on a Playstation 2 console. I also reckon CS1.6 would have been better than CS Source as the former would at least be playable, instead of looking like a PowerPoint. This also confirms that Windows 7 (whatever version it was) was the wrong OS to use on the ZG5 and that Windows XP was the best Windows OS to use on low end hardware like this. And regarding security, well, Windows 7 (any version) has less than 1 year of support left, so it will soon be in the same boat as Windows XP. Maybe Lubuntu Linux was the best OS for casual stuff like web browsing (what these things were designed for), Windows 7 Starter was the best for anything "modern" and Windows XP was the best overall choice, including gaming (not that this thing will game anyway, as from the benchmarks you demonstrated on both netbook reviews). I struggled to get even 360p RUclips (without h264ify) so congrats on getting that working! Overall? Don't get one of these. A modern Atom might be ok, but my phone likely has more power than any Atom based system, as well as a higher resolution screen and a better battery life and usability.
I had a Toshiba NB 200 for almost 10 years - little thing literally travelled around the world with me and been to about 10 countries. During that time, it went down from an 8hr battery life to a 5hr one, and only needed a display ribbon cable replaced, and a keyboard (which was my fault - smashie smashie). One of the first things I did to it was upgrade the RAM to 2GB, which helped a lot, and then I put a 250 gb disk up from a 120 or something. This thing was a tank - it took everything I threw at it, was highly portable, and very durable. It's currently in Cuba, as I traded it away for a private day-package tour instead of paying 160 CUC (which is about what I paid for the netbook in 2006) to a teacher moonlighting as a tour guide with a cab. He loved it. I also gave him a bunch of DDR RAM, an extra 2.5 inch hard disk and some USB keys. AFAIK it's still down there, being lovingly used with Ubuntu Mint, and will likely still be used for some time. It's good to see it continues to be used for teaching :D
Great little chip. Everything's going towards the phone processors now. I mean, look how far they've come in such a small amount of time. You can have a quad core ARM chip which does the same as an Atom, and uses even less power, and is even smaller. Bonkers. Love the sims music in the background. Gorgeous 👍😊
I had a high end Atom laptop made around the same date as those. I couldn't have been happier with its performance. It ran contemporary games fine. Low graphics but still max resolution and decent framerate, certainly more than playable. Windows 7 Home, 4GB of RAM, and frankly it was more powerful (minus the GPU) than my old Core2Duo gaming laptop just a few years earlier. The complete low end netbooks of the day might have performed about as well as you could expect, but for a high end Atom computer I was delighted, 11 inches, 10 hours of battery, and able to run all of the hobby-like games perfectly, able to play youtube videos without issue. It all but replaced my gaming laptop, with the vast majority of my time split between my Atom laptop and my desktop.
The Atoms were delightful. My Dell Mini 10v had the older N270 with GMA950 graphics, and while that too was drastically underpowered, it ran Mac OS X Snow Leopard beautifully (that's mostly why I bought it). I even tried to edit some 720p video in iMovie on there, and despite the chip almost giving me third degree burns on my lap, it did work! Nowadays though even with a lightweight Linux distro it's really really showing it's age.
These little computers were great for learning programming languages, since almost all computer languages in 2010 would run on this, paired with a lightweight text editor, you had a decent python/php/java/c++ machine.
One of the current examples of how technology has advanced so much Even a phone can play 1080p60 and higher videos, able to play 3D games such as PUBG M, CODM, Genshin Impact, so on and so on
What's scary is that this is a big step up over the Atom N270 in the first-gen Lenovo S10 I owned. That thing's super-low 1024x600 screen resolution meant that some games wouldn't even install. It was slooooooooooow. They were a noble idea, but netbooks weren't anything but painful until the Asus X205 and HP Stream 11 came along. I would use Steam's in-home streaming to play Metro 2033 at maxed out settings on my X205, which was kind of surreal.
I've used a Stream 11, and it's rather poor to say the least. 'Proper' laptops from up to a decade ago perform better than it. The only downsides to these older laptops are battery life, weight, and fan noise.
I stuck 4Gb of RAM (or was it 2Gb?) to one similar to this (acer or asus, can't recall now) and connected it to a scanner to digitalize family photos. It did a wonderful job, while not taking space in the desk and consuming very little during the weeks it took to do the pictures. It was going to the trash when given by a coworker but now, I keep it for purposes like this stored nearby
I have this processor, upgraded to 2gb of ram and tried an underclocked RX 460 (Power brick limitations). It actually did great in Left For Dead 2, something like 40-90fps.
glad you started testing lightweight linux distros for older hardware. I have an old atom based HP mini and I love it to bits for a "dumb terminal" (linux without graphics server and only text based stuff for remote management, chat, etc. With such small power draw and a beefy extended battery I can easily get 8 hours of screen on time!
I have a Lenovo S10 with such cpu but upgraded to 2GB since early days. In 2016 it has been upgraded to Win7 with SSD. It serves well as a Citrix client, for RDP and running putty. In its early life, it was even running a VMware player with a work image so that I can use corporate domain and vpn software on a personal machine. As a infrastructure person, it has been brought overseas for 2 critically important business trip in 2017 and 2018. It can still run chrome reasonally well and can help me to book flights and hotel, doing online check-ins ...etc. Setting up switches and firewalls using putty, brought up servers from ilo, rdp into them and setup clusters and brought up VMs for a site. The good thing is that it has a proper Lan port. I think this piece of hardware had really over archieved. Of course, browsing google map is now slow and youtube can only barely play at viewable framerates at 360p. But if any vendor can bring a machine with modern processing power with the same form factor, i think I will buy another one and have it serving for another 10 years.
I still have my old Dell Inspiron 1010. I used it all throughout high school because it was super portable. Now, it sits as a Volumio machine on my home stereo because that's pretty much all it can handle in modern world applications.
I remember my roommate had an Acer Aspire One or Asus EEE PC, and we ran Spore on it, fairly problem free. Pretty sure we also ran Sims1 or Sims2 on it.
@@Patchuchan How about replacing the hard drive for an SSD instead of putting a crystal decoder? Will it make any difference or is gonna be negligible?
@@krazycharlie The biggest problem they just didn't have the CPU power to decode HD video in software and the GPU had no hardware for acellerated video decoding which is why the crystal card helps a lot.
I had an Asus eeePC that have n570 CPU with 4 cores/threads, and 2 gb ram. (i was upgraded to 2 gb). It hold up 7 ultimate pretty well but cannot say this for win 10, it set up on literal 10 hours..
Ah the new Celerons... those are actually gaming capable. However, I'm stuck with a 2011 Celeron 925 based on the decade old Penryn architecture with a decade old iGPU and 2GB RAM.
You missed a gem. Couple month ago I pulled one such nettop out of storage since I was going to a LAN party and one of my friends is a MAC user. I tried to run SWAT 4 (2005) and got a slideshow. But then I reinstalled Windows 7 to remove all bloat and OC it with SetFSB to 2.1GHz (26,5% OC, more was unstable). Thing is, while this OC method is quite dangerous, iGPU getting OC too (was main focus actually). I launched SWAT 4 and it *ran playably* . It turned out pretty capable machine after that. Now I wanna upgrade RAM to 2GB in hopes to run even more games (it actually uses up to 256MB of *shared* memory, so in fact you should've tried upgrading it for this video).
Now im interested i seeing one of those dual core atom n330 netbooks with a nvidia ion chipset like the asus eeepc 1201n and see how far you can push that.
I bought an MSI Wind U135DX back in February 2011. It had 1GB of RAM, a 160GB HDD loaded with 7 Starter, a 1024x600 display and an Atom N455. I actually *REALLY* liked it when I first picked it up. I was only really using it for coding light applications, so I never noticed most of the complaints others had about the Atom chips of the time. Before long it was running Linux exclusively for Python development and I genuinely didn’t mind it at all. My mom liked mine so much she went out and bought one herself. I wouldn’t use one now, of course, but I do have fond memories of late nights typing away on that thing with RUclips videos running in the background and liters of soda to keep me going. I dug it out in about 2016 and installed Linux on it fresh to see how it had held up. Yikes...
If you keep a watch on eBay auctions education surplus actions pop up from time to time on Lenovo Thinkpad X Series 11.6 in laptops, and a lot of them have E series, and A series APU's in them, I have an X131e that has a dual core E series, and is perfect on Manjaro Deepin Linux for my mother for the basics with 6GB of DDR3 RAM, and I have an X140e A series Quad Core @ 1.5Ghz with 8GB of DDR3L Ram that can do some low end gaming like Sonic Mania on Manjaro Deepin. The X series Education models are also rugged AF with the top lids having a rubber bumper around it, but make sure to contact the seller to see if CompuTrace software built into their BIOS/UEFI has not been activated, as it can make replacing an HDD, or WiFi card next to impassable, but still a great deal if you can snag one in good shape for under $100 USD with the power brick, and battery.
Actually my AMD C-60 netbook from 2011 is still chugging along pretty nicely with 120GB SSD and 4GB RAM. 1080p youtube played fine but that’s about the heaviest task it can do smoothly lol.
I have an AMD E350 dating from 2011. The original OS was W7 but it 'qualified' for the W10 upgrade so WTF after a disk image back up so I could revert and voila er uh meh. I find it certainly runs W10 just not very fast. BTW the cpu is a 17W part and the GPU portion will mop the corner of the floor the 450N occupies. Yes, it won't run Crysis. Been there didn't do that. As with most of these netbook type things, low expectations are usually met, rarely exceeded. This is no exception. I will say that an SSD and extra RAM have helped a bit and I find the value of a lower powered laptop that can actually play video at screen resolution for a movie length duration to be reasonable. I did purchase this thing at its lowest price point when new so I feel the value recieved is good.
... I didn’t look at what channel had uploaded it as this popped up in my recommendations. Just the title, not thumbnail or anything else either... I thought it was going to be a weird thing about physics... Now I wish there was a video about old atoms dying out and some sort of new magic atoms taking over... But this was fun to watch too
I had Asus EEE PC 1005pe netbook in 2010 and I really loved it, it had Atom N450. Upgraded it with 2gb of ram and played World of Warcraft with ~25fps, as long as I stayed out of the larger cities. Battle for Wesnoth, C&C Renegade, Battlefield 1942, Starcraft etc. old games. Battery life was amazing, 12 hours with the screen on. I was conscripted to finnish military and I could put torrents on for the night or fall asleep with the laptop on bed. Typing was great and the machine fit on my pocket.
@@dr_vendetta8361 I can't, I did research and the CPU can only hold 2. Although some users have said that they can get 3 gb working but the machine only has one RAM slot
Darkandrexander yeah the CPU says 2gb but the thing can take up to 4gb I have looked at forums for this computer with people saying they were able to get 4 gb working
I've got mine that has N570 on it! It was a 1015PX model from ASUS n forever I am grateful cause that laptop has teached me to be VERY PATIENT. Going strong 7 years till now =)
My wife bought me that exact laptop for my deployment to Afghanistan, so that we wouldn't care if it got destroyed by the dust and heat. I quickly upgraded the ram to max speed and size. That made a very noticeable difference in performance. The little guy held up great and I still have it although the battery is dead. It ran Skype and youtube well and that's all I cared about for my "travel" laptop. I was a helicopter pilot so I would take it with me as I hopped around the AO. I had a nicer laptop that didn't leave my room, that I used for HD videos and other intensive tasks. But I loved that Samsung, because it worked and if it broke, we weren't out a lot of cash. The dust over there is insane and will smother electronics, over time.
1½ year ago my computer broke down, and I was stuck with a netbook (same specs except 2GB RAM) for 4 months. Browsing internet was pure terror, but man - I have never played so many good games in such short time. Strict limitations can be very good for your creativity... For shits and giggles I kept a list of the games that I have successfully played on the netbook. I have used low settings when needed, often the native resolution of 1024x600 and achieved "playable" framerates of 30+ fps (with the exception of Halo and Soldier of Fortune 2). - Age of Wonders - Age of Wonders - Wizard's Throne - Age of Wonders - Shadow Magic - Alien vs Predator Classic - Arcanum of Steamworks and Magic Obscura - Arma Cold War Assault - Avadon - Black Fortress - Baldur's Gate 1 - Baldur's Gate 1 - Battle for Wesnoth - Delta Force 1 - Delta Force 2 - Delta Force 3 - Land Warrior - Delta Force 4 - Task Force Dagger - Deus Ex - Diablo - Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Edition - Dungeon Siege 1 - Dungeon Siege 2 - Fallout 1 - Fallout 2 - Fallout Tactics - Freedom Fighters - Freelancer - Ghost Recon - Gothic 1 - Gothic 2 - Grand Theft Auto 3 - Grand Theft Auto Vice City - GzDoom 1.8.02 (Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife) - Half-Life (turn off the hq models and textures!) - Halo - Heroes of Might & Magic III - Hidden & Dangerous Deluxe - Hitman 1 - Icewind Dale 1 - Icewind Dale 2 - Jagged Alliance 1 - Jagged Alliance 2 - Masters of Magic - Max Payne 1 - Max Payne 2 - Might & Magic 6 - Might & Magic 7 - Morrowind - Mount & Blade - OpenXcom - Outcast - Planescape Torment - Privateer - Gemini Gold - Project I.G.I - Quake 1 - Quake 2 - Quake 3 - Retro City Rampage - Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Rune - Shadow warrior: Classic Complete - Soldier of Fortune 1 - Soldier of Fortune 2 - Soldiers of Anarchy - Starcraft - Star Trek - Elite Force 1 - Star Trek - Elite Force 2 - Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2 - Outcast - Star Wars - Jedi Academy - Sum of All Fears - SWAT 3 - System Shock 1 - System Shock 2 - Temple of Elemental Evil - The Thing - Tiberian Sun - Unreal Gold - Unreal Tournament '99 - World of Goo Don't forget that you can emulate everything up to Playstation 1 / N64 as well.
I have three netbooks, one of them was a halftop with N280, other one was HP with N455 and a good o' Lenovo that used to be my relatives' machine with N470. The Lenovo one was a sentimental value to me and had a very long story about it.
I have a Samsung NC10 netbook which was briefly shown in your video, it uses the Atom. I go to the public library frequently and use the wifi in the library. With earphones on I listen to music and watch videos on RUclips with no problems. I cheated a bit by spending 10 bucks on a memory upgrade to 2gb. I also had to put in a new battery. I wiped off xp and put on Lubuntu. I do use it and do enjoy it. It plays RUclips good and I put in a collection of games that it plays nicely, backgammon, chess and so forth. Also I put on chromium with hangouts and can make phone calls from it for free with the wifi. At home I have a nice laptop to use for my daily driver but to carry around this Atom netbook is light and works well for all my needs.
Man, I'm glad you are back. It was boring without you. I watched all of your old videos all over again. Can you make a video about a Duron processors? :)
Have you ever tried Chell 1.8B? Its a modded driver for the GMA 3150 and 950 that boosts performance. I tried it on a old Dell Inspiron that had a 950 and it helped performance quite a bit.
I've been using a Samsung N130 netboot with an Atom N270 CPU for the last 9 years - won it in a competition. Upgraded it to the max of 2gb and a large 500gb drive, with XP/Win7 dual boot for the best of both worlds. It's a great machine with 3 USBs, BGN wifi, ethernet and VGA port, SD card and a removable 5hr battery. Unlike most laptops, this is lightweight, easy to use, cool to the touch and best of all... silent. Yeah, the performance is not brilliant, the screen res of 1024x600 is small, but it can play DVDs (when hooked up to a USB drive), Quake III, Mame and emulators for 8bit computers - Spectrum, C64 and all that jazz. Think of it as being a nice Pentium 4 with a few bolt on extras. I do have a much better and faster PC for when I need it, but my Number one choice is my Netbook!
I have been a user of Intel graphics chips in laptops for many years, I can say with certainty that the chips are more powerful than they appear, there were driver modifiers that extracted every last drop, as well as adding non-existent features like opengl. You also can't use Steam games as a measure of comparison, these source engine games have been improved over the years, with better textures, shaders, etc., to look more beautiful, but they have become more demanding than their 2004 counterparts.
As a N450 owner i recommend running Linux Mint XFCE or Bunsenlabs Linux Helium if you want something a bit more snappy. In both cases try to get a 2GB ram stick and install ZRAM and activate it as a swap space.
Got one still in use every day since 2010 :) (N450, 2 g ram, 64g ssd) It started as a just for fun project, now if it dies, I will really miss it. 1. It's hooked to a 720p TV and works as a media center. Runs the latest 64 bit linux mint mate, and plays back movies from network shares. I found smplayer as the best solution, way more friendly on resources than VLC. 2. 720p youtube also works with minitube, free on linux. 3. Network backup server --> I have both win/linux and mac systems around the house, so I use the netbook as their backup (backing up the desktop, documents, etc folders to an external USB HDD) 4. Started to script some home automation stuff, works beautifully. 5. It's fun. I really love to squeeze out the maximum of these low end machines. If this machine dies I will get an Rpi and port every function to it. It will be a really fun project :)
I have been using a Atom N455 daily since I began High School in 2010. I started studying Computer Science in 2016 and then installed Linux on it. Since Linux lacks all the bloating Windows 7 has, this potato turned into a still slow but seriously usable computer. Last year I discovered a bug in the linux kernel which causes the processor's idle states not to be managed properly, resulting in overheating and battery-draining. After a lot of pain, I found a work-around and issued a bug report: bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201187. You might be interested in it.
@@magiblot1 Thank you for the link, I will give it a try. I also got it as a school machine, but I was interested in linux so pre-installed XP was damped before it's first boot. I have all my schoolwork done on it, watched videos, listened to music (not with it's crappy speakers ofc), lots of chat, web browsing, even a lot of fun with gimp and audacity. Also openTTD is still on my main machine :) Fun fact: currently I'm working with linux servers and I'm really proud that what this little machine was taught to me. I learned to save on every instruction to get the max out of this really low end hw, currently it's a real adventage in my everydays.
I had a similar model with the same cpu all those years ago, it was good for reading pdfs, note pad, word pad and basic light surfing whilst listening to mp3 music with win amp, at the time it has handy whilst travelling around whilst I was doing my PhD. It was easy to carry and had some uses.it came bundled free with the use 3g dongles.
I took that exact netbook with me, when I was deployed to Afghanistan, in 200/11. It waa great for email and video chatting on Skype. I played movies and music on it too, while I typed emails, documents and downloaded stuff. It wasnt half bad atmultitasking, considering its limitations. It also held up amazingly to the harsh environment. I loved it, for what it was.
A few years back, I picked up for £40, what I regard as, one of the very last old skool netbooks - the Packard Bell EasyNote ME69BMP form 2014. These were basically the cheapest laptops on sale in PC World up until the likes of those HP Stream laptops (and its various rivals) came about with their stupidly small 32GB eMMC hard drives. There was a sense when using this netbook that they had finally become decent with usable performance compared with the early netbooks of the N200/N400 series Atoms, and even N2600/2800 Atom era. This had one of the very early Baytrail Celerons, specifically the N2805, with 2 GB RAM, Windows 8 and a 320GB hard drive. It also had a touchscreen which worked fairly well. And overall it was a perfectly decent machine with decent battery life (for the time) and was properly usable. RUclips playback at 720p was also no issue, and so was 1080p (provided it wasn't a 1080p 60 video). With an upgrade to 4GB RAM (its maximum) and an SSD, it even ran Windows 10 smoothly.
The first time I saw a net book o believe the eeepc I was BLOWN AWAY. I never had a laptop and the fact that you could have a tiny laptop for 150 was insane to me
12:12 The new Lubuntu (with LXQT) sucks at driver support. My mom has a Samsung N150 netbook with the same specs as yours. When I installed Lubuntu 20.04 on it, even the keyboard's Fn control for backlight and sound volume didn't work at all and the start menu was glitchy, but when I installed Lubuntu 18.04 (with LXDE) instead, everything worked fine out of the box. I recently upgraded its ram to 2 gb, replaced its HDD with a cheap SSD, disabled the "CPU power saving mode" from BIOS and installed Linux Mint 20 XFCE edition on it which worked like a charm. It's snappy (especially after I decreased the swappiness to 30), more user-friendly and has got good driver support.
I got an Asus EEE PC 1001PX a few years ago second hand, which has this little N450 in, and it's definitely no gaming machine, but it definitely has its uses still. I upgrade to 2gb of RAM and added a small SSD in it and that gave it a little more speed for what I need, running Windows 7 64bit. Things like popping out to fix a router setup, doing work in Word, basic internet stuff, and when I spent 3 weeks in hospital it was there with me youtubing no problem. It's small, light, doesn't overheat, runs well for what it's for... I have other beefier machines, but for something to just slip in my handbag even and just take to do something, it's great, especially as my main form of transport is a motorbike. I need to get a new battery for it, and I will get one because I do get my use out of it
I've got an Asus EeePC 1001 PXD with that Atom. It's running as my linux-based print server now due to the fact that it's unusable for anything requiring direct contact with the computer. Edit: Actually it's an N455
These are actually perfect little machines for things like diagnostics in cars or machinery. I even use one to run my cnc router. They're also pretty sturdy which makes them even more suited for workplace tasks.
they are also good for running o scope software, and even radio software, unfortunately the authors of these programs keep making the software require 4+ cores. so you are stuck on old versions when there really is no need.
Back in Grade 6 my mum bought me LG X140 And it was my first step into desktop gaming believe it or not I was able to play crossfire fps game with this little monster that time and it makes me feel grateful now that I can pretty much afford every computer part I wish to put in my pc.
LIKE IF YOUR'RE WATCHING BUDGET OFFICAIL BIULDS ON 2019!!!!!!
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Fun fact, the Intel n450 doesn't support speculative execution, thus isn't vulnerable to Spectre...
n450 sales up 1000000000000000000%!
If you could get more network ports it might make a good pfsense box.
@@Patchuchan Since Pfsense 2.5 will require AES-NI (www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-5-and-aes-ni.html), it probably would not be a good pfsense box. Now the pfsense fork, OPNsense, doesn't have that requirement.
idk how my intel gma can handle aero with only 1gb of ram and it uses 300 mb lol and it can handle mc 1.0 with fast settings and 6 render distance with a weak texture pack. (intel atom 450 with intel gma 3150 it can also handle 720p with the OFFICIAL drivers lol
Cool fact. Thanks.
How bout meltdown?
“Let’s see how it hold up in 2019”
> 1GB DDR2
Hex [archived] d260 2gig . Still use mine with mint distribution . Runs quite well👍
@@jamezxh Debian on a pentium M with 512mb is pretty decent too.
until you open the browser
I have an old Samsung NB30 running Lubuntu (nothing fancy). It's still nice to type on and I really like the anti glare screen.
i still use a PC with a Dual-Core E5200 and the GMA 3100 integrated video and 2GB DDR2
holds pretty well, at least i can use RUclips on 720p
It was my first laptop, one of these Atoms, 1Gb of RAM and 7 Starter.
I indeed ended up installing a lightweight linux install.
What a shitty laptop
He's back! I believe I had an Acer netbook with that CPU. It was actually reasonably useful with using Office and browsing the Internet. But I must have gotten frustrated with it, because I bought a proper laptop shortly after :)
I had an Acer A150 and EeePC 901. yep I had two because I got the acer with a dataplan from T-Mobile.
@@bpw incorrectly labeled? what cpu did it have?
I had Asus Eee PC with Atom and Linux. Tux Racer ran great
Asus aspire one, I put win 10 on it and ran a debloating script. Runs okay.
@@bpw i have aspire o to and its still good
N450 eh.. I played an old version of ePSXe with dx3D 6 petes plugin.. I love it.
The only problem with the N450 is that... you'll have trouble running anything past 2002.
If anyone has the N450.. I gladly teach you how to overclock it with setFSB and get the custom gpu drivers.
Hell.. you should even run a Windows 7 lite version on it.. but if you find drivers for Windows 2000.. thats the OS you should run.
having a custom resolution made just for gaming.. like 512x300 would help you a lot.
Beside that.. you would need to disable any post processing thing a game uses.
@@naikjoy Don't see at all how Windows 2000 would be of advantage compared to Windows XP. But otherwise... yeah I remember having a GPU overclock utility!
I remembet that GMA overclock program lol and custom drivers
For psx though, try connectix VGA -- if that thing in Pentium I can run PSX games flawlessly, an Atom would run circles! Its super smooth, just no special features like savestates and custom resolutions. Sony even bought it and its the PS1 emulator inside the PSP and PS3
@@SianaGearz Of course it would. Whats the difference between Win 2000 and XP?
GPU overclock utility wasn't for GMA 3150.
My dad still uses one of these and blames the fact that pages take 5 mins to load on our WiFi...still it's cool you can run windows on such a low voltage
That could be the netbook's wifi card/antena is broken or dying although an atom n260 does the same thing
@@Lollllllz it isn't, the network card works fine, and our WiFi is 30mb/s, it is the CPU it can barely run windows let alone edge. They really are sucky CPUs, I only have an i5 3230m and it's (according to usermark) 1000% better
@@flyde6521 Buy the old geezer a cheap Chromebook that's not near it's end of life date for support, and you won't have anymore dad bitching issues, I did that with my elder aunt, and have not had a tech support call in over year that had to do with her laptop lol!
Is indeed the cpu too weak/lacking proper decoders. A facebook page can take 1+min even if loads properly, on a freshly windows install, with every possible service and program blocked.
I had linux mint on a asus 1001px and everything worked great, much faster web browsing.
@@smpmuzpid haha, mine boycotted all hp PC's for through the same reasoning
The fact that you included a Linux option earns you a thumbs up
True, but disappointing it was Ubuntu and not a better distro.
like mint@@superchet4026
@@bluebandit5586 Mint is just as bad in my opinion, it feels like Ubuntu with Cinnamon.
maybe because that's what it is? Please don't tell me youre one of those cringy arch people that shit on Debian based distros@@superchet4026
@@bluebandit5586 I used Debian age 2-13. I love Debian, it's fine. I just don't really like Debian-based distros. Honestly if you want the closest thing to Windows on Linux, yeah go ahead and use Ubuntu or Mint with Cinnamon or whatever the fuck with KDE. But when I use Linux, I want to use Linux, not switching over to Linux because it's free and having it be as close as possible to Windows by using Mint and running every application with Wine. And yeah I use Arch, but that's just because it's easier than Debian and the community is more active. Good luck getting shit for Debian when Debian-based distros like Ubuntu get more recognition and use ppa bullshit that's broken on Debian.
My mom bought one of these netbooks in early 2010 with a similar atom. I remember it being a decent little thing. It was powerful enough to play RuneScape with my brother even at 4 or 5 years old.
Came for the curiosity of the video, stay for The Sims background music.
I was looking for this comment
Construction mode music is the best.
Same! - Its funny, I think I recall playing the Sims on the Netbook I had. This was pre Steam so at first it was annoying due to the lack of internal CD drive, till I learned about no CD patches.
”Epic streaming pc for free” Would be nice clickbait hamish
U could stream games from ur rig lol just spend $40 on Infiniband cards
Really like that The Sims music in the background tho
The comment I was searching for
@Ἁλκή yes
@@iicaie ditto!
I got my first computer when I was 2, a Dell Inspiron Mini laptop with an Intel Atom. It still runs to this day on Ubuntu instead of Windows XP.
The Dell Mini 9 was popular with the Hackintosh crowd.
mr baby
my first system when i was 0~3 was msDos on a black and white screen =P
@@mrcrackerist I was 2 in 83 when my family got a Commodore VIC-20(it was cheaper than the C64), but around early 85 we upgraded to the great C64.
@@CommodoreFan64 well i meant no harm, just thought its funny how times change. make me fell old you know =P
I use MSI U90 on antix/xubuntu nowadays as main driver. It has 2GB of ram, and N270 overclocked to 2GHz. Also I used GMABooster to take the GPU to 400MHz. It can run 720p videos in SMPlayer with ease, as well as in Kodi whilst streaming. With CoreAVC plugin on Win7, it uses about 60% of CPU to run 1080p videos. Also, Quake III works quite well. I simply cannot bring myself to buy new PC as long as I don't get to do serious programming in Uni, since CodeBlocks and a bit of Eclipse for java works just fine on this one...
Now we have the N100, which is the spiritual successor to the Atoms, it's based on Alder Lake, has 4 E cores, and Quick Sync video decoding, all for 6W
Nah, it's much better though.
The N100 can actually run older AAA titles pretty well. IIRC even Doom 2016 is sort of playable. GTA V runs at PS3/X360 settings pretty well.
n305 is a beast
I transformed one of those things into a non-stop running HTPC for my parent's fitness room. It plays an infinite loop of downloaded Ramones clips into the TV from a thumb drive.
Father is a great singer.
Now the real test: will an actual potato perform better?
Yes it will if the toshiba i have here is any thing to go by .
I used a laptop with an Atom N280 in 2019 as my current PC didn't have a GPU and my current GPU still had about a week to ship.
Yes; an actual potato WILL perform better.
Green Connector no, but a lemon battery could run the N450.
Wowww this takes me back I remember being stuck with an Atom N270 based netbook for a couple of years, I'm pretty sure that any of todays budget machines are an absolute dream compared to what I was stuck with back in 2009. It's always fun to see how much you can do when stuck with an insanely slow CPU though and watching this definitely gave me some flashbacks. :P
nooo not the n450
*vietnam flashback*
some of us still using this crap till today..
Definitely a veteran moment. lol
Oi, my dual core N550 isn't much better.
*v¡eTnam fla$hback*
x6000E- still bad but a little bit better
This gave me unbearable flashbacks and muscle contractions
Nah but fr great job man, glad to see your back, and with ads this time
at the same time, you come back as well
finally a new video, got back to rewatching some of your content lately, loving it man, keep up the great work!
the Atoms were always really interesting to me because of the extremely low TDP, like some newer ones (x7-z8750), with 4cores and 4 threads, has a TDP of 2W. and it actually ran stuff better than I thought it would. and fuck, your voice is sexy, i missed it.
BTW I'm Kakoka, this is my second channel. Also my main rig with the HD4670 died 2 days ago, PSU blew up(I put in a x3470 to replace the i3-550, which has a TDP of 95W compared to 71W, it lasted for 3 weeks but the poor 250W PSU couldn't handle it), I'm gonna test the system with some other PSU someday
My main man Kakoka, a true legend
Kakoka?
@@prashantmishra9985 sup?
I miss my little netbook. I used to play early Minecraft on it while deployed, and its battery lasted longer than everyone else’s laptop, and it came with a camera for Skype. It eventually died when I spilled a drink on it.
Use mini pci-e adapter for the laptop and add your AMD Fury
That would be pretty coool
Bottleneck
Maybe a 6100 or 7200GS would NOT be bottlenecked and these are CRAPPY GPUs
@@CreepebrineMC yeah true , but knowing budget builds , he would propbably test that since the adapter costs 15£ and its easy to set up, the gpu's are also pretty cheap sp yeah, is that 20£ upgrade werf it
@@dexsters5643 yeah I will probably buy the Expresscard variant for my MSI CX620MX, so I could pair my i5 480M with a 650Ti.
@@CreepebrineMC nice pc
Im soon pairing a
E5430 with my gtx 750
My q6600 blew and died
As it is my first laptop in my entire life, I hold it dear to me because up until now, I still have it beside me.
I remember when I was still 14 years old that I create/edit youtube videos in it so I could try the feeling of being a RUclips content creator. But, of course. The specs isn't enough. I remembered the old days when I read throughout every system requirements just to be able to fully run a game without any hiccups.
The old days. Those were golden memories... Also, try using Osu! as a benchmark for low spec pc cause the game can run on a potato and the game is also fun to play!
This channel is just amazing. Every video is very interesting and has a unique touch to it
I wanted to make a joke about Crysis but I was worried you won`t see it on that netbook. It won`t load 2:35 :D
I played Doom 3 on it and got mostly single digit framerates.
I think we had that Atom in a Packard bell back in the day and damn was it slow.
I have such bad memories with it since we had to survive with it for over a year due to how our family desktop died and we had to wait until we could get a new one..
Funny I stumbled on your video the day after I gave a new lease of life to my EeePC 900a (atom N270, even less powerful than yours) by installing the linux antiX distribution on it.
For all you said here which is right on the money, let me point out that if you're not a gamer, the wimpy eeepc 900a runs libreoffice without breaking a sweat. In ten years I used it countless of times to correct on the fly some jobs I was paid to do. In the train, in cars, in planes, on vacations, anywhere. Each time I've charged my client more than the price I bought this machine new back in 2008 ; so in 10 years, this machine probably paid for itself a couple dozen times. Not bad.
Today it's semi-retired, but I have a 7yo son that's not yet ready for AAA action, and Ltris, xgalaga and a couple of other 2d or puzzle games will keep him occupied while this machine itself is ideally rugged to handle his temper, but light enough he can haul it everywhere like a handheld game console.
So depending on your needs, such a computer can be in fact an ideal budget solution for some use cases.
Notice how different result in running games on Linux NATIVELY and in Wine - this is exact reason why linux community demands for actual port and native build and not another "lets wrap stuff in wine" answers.
RUclips on Linux with Firefox? Say WHAT? You should use Smplayer with MPV, i guess it would allow higher resolution and maybe even hardware acceleration if there any.
Also, about setup linux on Atom, well, you missed most fun it has before. At ti,e when netbooks was fresh, its was hardly possible to run stock kernel on such machines. For example i had one of eeePC with Atom and i had to use special kernel made by fans to get stuff (bluetooth, Wifi) actually working. Needless to say, years after that, when i tried to revive device with just Lubuntu everything worked fine from the box, since needed drivers and patches found their way in stock distro kernel.
Hello. You seem to know this thing. Could you point me in the right direction?
I have a HP-mini-110 with Atom-N450 lying around and I want this PC to be able to perform facebook browsing with chrome and facebook video calls so that my mom can use it.
It came with Windows 7 Starter 32 bit. Do you think, this 64 bit capable processor could benefit from a 64 bit operating system?
Which operating system should I use? Windows 7, Mint, Lubuntu, or just Debian? and 32-bit or 64-bit?
So far, I have tried Windows 7 x86, Debian x64 and Lubuntu x64. All of them had similar performance. The video call was stuttering and system monitors showed the CPU to be the bottleneck.
I also used firefox and search for some light browser alternatives but couldn't find anything.
I read somewhere, the gma3150 can hardware acclerate only mpeg2 videos, nothing later.
I just want this pc to handle 1-to-1 facebook video calls. Can this laptop do that? How can I achieve that?
Glad to see the official budget builder is back! When you mentioned how to get it for free, I chuckled since about 2 months back, I picked a Dell netbook with an Atom N455 out of the recycling. Could barely get it to run Lubuntu let alone game. Also, browsing was exactly as bad as you suggested (240p was only way to get good enough frames to watch).
puppy linux runs really well on these pcs
get the modded drivers for the gma 3150 and games will run better on windows
yeah the modded drivers do kinda improve game play
I was gifted an Aspire One D255 (with that processor) back in 2011. Poor little thing struggled even to load Android 1.0 (it was in dual-boot with 7 Starter). To this day, only the motherboard and the original 1GB of RAM have survived, but it was such a fantastic experience tinkering with it (it still run Ubuntu 64bit better than 7 Starter).
I recently found my old Toshiba NB200, uses the N280 Atom. I put a 2Gb stick of ram, and a 120Gb SSD in it and it runs Linux Mint XFCE fairly well. It's proving to be a very usable device.
Glad to see you're back, top quality video as always, keep em coming.
Aah yes, I remember this well. Nice video.
This reminds me very much of the Acer Aspire One ZG5 that you tested previously (N270/GMA950) as well as the HP Mini 110 that I recently sold online for a friend (again, N270/GMA950). And performance was basically not much different.
I still reckon that GTA Vice City would have been better on a Playstation 2 console. I also reckon CS1.6 would have been better than CS Source as the former would at least be playable, instead of looking like a PowerPoint.
This also confirms that Windows 7 (whatever version it was) was the wrong OS to use on the ZG5 and that Windows XP was the best Windows OS to use on low end hardware like this. And regarding security, well, Windows 7 (any version) has less than 1 year of support left, so it will soon be in the same boat as Windows XP.
Maybe Lubuntu Linux was the best OS for casual stuff like web browsing (what these things were designed for), Windows 7 Starter was the best for anything "modern" and Windows XP was the best overall choice, including gaming (not that this thing will game anyway, as from the benchmarks you demonstrated on both netbook reviews).
I struggled to get even 360p RUclips (without h264ify) so congrats on getting that working!
Overall? Don't get one of these. A modern Atom might be ok, but my phone likely has more power than any Atom based system, as well as a higher resolution screen and a better battery life and usability.
I had a Toshiba NB 200 for almost 10 years - little thing literally travelled around the world with me and been to about 10 countries. During that time, it went down from an 8hr battery life to a 5hr one, and only needed a display ribbon cable replaced, and a keyboard (which was my fault - smashie smashie). One of the first things I did to it was upgrade the RAM to 2GB, which helped a lot, and then I put a 250 gb disk up from a 120 or something. This thing was a tank - it took everything I threw at it, was highly portable, and very durable.
It's currently in Cuba, as I traded it away for a private day-package tour instead of paying 160 CUC (which is about what I paid for the netbook in 2006) to a teacher moonlighting as a tour guide with a cab. He loved it. I also gave him a bunch of DDR RAM, an extra 2.5 inch hard disk and some USB keys. AFAIK it's still down there, being lovingly used with Ubuntu Mint, and will likely still be used for some time. It's good to see it continues to be used for teaching :D
Great little chip. Everything's going towards the phone processors now. I mean, look how far they've come in such a small amount of time. You can have a quad core ARM chip which does the same as an Atom, and uses even less power, and is even smaller. Bonkers.
Love the sims music in the background. Gorgeous 👍😊
This is literally the first thing you’ve posted this year, it been 4 months well done for actually coming back I thought you left RUclips.
2:57 **looks at the another monitor**
LV. 600 BOSS
I had a high end Atom laptop made around the same date as those. I couldn't have been happier with its performance. It ran contemporary games fine. Low graphics but still max resolution and decent framerate, certainly more than playable. Windows 7 Home, 4GB of RAM, and frankly it was more powerful (minus the GPU) than my old Core2Duo gaming laptop just a few years earlier. The complete low end netbooks of the day might have performed about as well as you could expect, but for a high end Atom computer I was delighted, 11 inches, 10 hours of battery, and able to run all of the hobby-like games perfectly, able to play youtube videos without issue. It all but replaced my gaming laptop, with the vast majority of my time split between my Atom laptop and my desktop.
The Atoms were delightful. My Dell Mini 10v had the older N270 with GMA950 graphics, and while that too was drastically underpowered, it ran Mac OS X Snow Leopard beautifully (that's mostly why I bought it). I even tried to edit some 720p video in iMovie on there, and despite the chip almost giving me third degree burns on my lap, it did work! Nowadays though even with a lightweight Linux distro it's really really showing it's age.
you help me learn more about computers thanks!
These little computers were great for learning programming languages, since almost all computer languages in 2010 would run on this, paired with a lightweight text editor, you had a decent python/php/java/c++ machine.
One of the current examples of how technology has advanced so much
Even a phone can play 1080p60 and higher videos, able to play 3D games such as PUBG M, CODM, Genshin Impact, so on and so on
What's scary is that this is a big step up over the Atom N270 in the first-gen Lenovo S10 I owned. That thing's super-low 1024x600 screen resolution meant that some games wouldn't even install. It was slooooooooooow. They were a noble idea, but netbooks weren't anything but painful until the Asus X205 and HP Stream 11 came along. I would use Steam's in-home streaming to play Metro 2033 at maxed out settings on my X205, which was kind of surreal.
I've used a Stream 11, and it's rather poor to say the least. 'Proper' laptops from up to a decade ago perform better than it. The only downsides to these older laptops are battery life, weight, and fan noise.
I stuck 4Gb of RAM (or was it 2Gb?) to one similar to this (acer or asus, can't recall now) and connected it to a scanner to digitalize family photos. It did a wonderful job, while not taking space in the desk and consuming very little during the weeks it took to do the pictures. It was going to the trash when given by a coworker but now, I keep it for purposes like this stored nearby
I have this processor, upgraded to 2gb of ram and tried an underclocked RX 460 (Power brick limitations).
It actually did great in Left For Dead 2, something like 40-90fps.
glad you started testing lightweight linux distros for older hardware. I have an old atom based HP mini and I love it to bits for a "dumb terminal" (linux without graphics server and only text based stuff for remote management, chat, etc. With such small power draw and a beefy extended battery I can easily get 8 hours of screen on time!
Intel Atom: I'm a bad potato processor
Intel Celeron: *mashed potatoes sounds*
SPkssks SPKSSKS SPkssks
Pentium?
@@FSM_Reviews Celeron's worse than pentium. I used to have an intel satelite with a celeron. It cannot do shit
eh, I have an n3050, can watch 1080p60.. on internet explorer lmfao. runs perfectly fine.
I've got a laptop with a Celeron 2955u in it, runs everything I need just fine for it.
I have a Lenovo S10 with such cpu but upgraded to 2GB since early days. In 2016 it has been upgraded to Win7 with SSD. It serves well as a Citrix client, for RDP and running putty. In its early life, it was even running a VMware player with a work image so that I can use corporate domain and vpn software on a personal machine. As a infrastructure person, it has been brought overseas for 2 critically important business trip in 2017 and 2018. It can still run chrome reasonally well and can help me to book flights and hotel, doing online check-ins ...etc. Setting up switches and firewalls using putty, brought up servers from ilo, rdp into them and setup clusters and brought up VMs for a site. The good thing is that it has a proper Lan port. I think this piece of hardware had really over archieved. Of course, browsing google map is now slow and youtube can only barely play at viewable framerates at 360p. But if any vendor can bring a machine with modern processing power with the same form factor, i think I will buy another one and have it serving for another 10 years.
Wow who is this Budget builds, his videos are awesome.
I still have my old Dell Inspiron 1010. I used it all throughout high school because it was super portable. Now, it sits as a Volumio machine on my home stereo because that's pretty much all it can handle in modern world applications.
They are certain not worth it! lol
I have an Atom laptop I've been thinking of playing with eventually.
I remember my roommate had an Acer Aspire One or Asus EEE PC, and we ran Spore on it, fairly problem free.
Pretty sure we also ran Sims1 or Sims2 on it.
Some of them like the hp mini 110 had a optional crystal decoder for video, but i never found one specimen of this rare bizarre thing
My HP Mini 110 certainly doesn't have it, so I guess I'm another unlucky one :(.
@@krazycharlie Yeah, but at least running puppy linux i was able to watch netflix in 480p even via a tv through vga.
I put one of those cards in an Aspire One and it made a huge difference and was able to play back 720p video.
@@Patchuchan How about replacing the hard drive for an SSD instead of putting a crystal decoder? Will it make any difference or is gonna be negligible?
@@krazycharlie The biggest problem they just didn't have the CPU power to decode HD video in software and the GPU had no hardware for acellerated video decoding which is why the crystal card helps a lot.
I had an Asus eeePC that have n570 CPU with 4 cores/threads, and 2 gb ram. (i was upgraded to 2 gb). It hold up 7 ultimate pretty well but cannot say this for win 10, it set up on literal 10 hours..
And I thought my Celeron was slow...
You use it wrongly. Celeron is for office productivity
although the new celerons are like the new atoms not halfbad if you compare them to what intel used to sell under the same name
dude I use Intel Celeron 900
Ah the new Celerons... those are actually gaming capable. However, I'm stuck with a 2011 Celeron 925 based on the decade old Penryn architecture with a decade old iGPU and 2GB RAM.
And I thought my i7 8750-h was slow
You missed a gem. Couple month ago I pulled one such nettop out of storage since I was going to a LAN party and one of my friends is a MAC user. I tried to run SWAT 4 (2005) and got a slideshow. But then I reinstalled Windows 7 to remove all bloat and OC it with SetFSB to 2.1GHz (26,5% OC, more was unstable). Thing is, while this OC method is quite dangerous, iGPU getting OC too (was main focus actually). I launched SWAT 4 and it *ran playably* . It turned out pretty capable machine after that. Now I wanna upgrade RAM to 2GB in hopes to run even more games (it actually uses up to 256MB of *shared* memory, so in fact you should've tried upgrading it for this video).
Now im interested i seeing one of those dual core atom n330 netbooks with a nvidia ion chipset like the asus eeepc 1201n and see how far you can push that.
My man Expansion
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i had one of those back in the day and was so impressed by what i could do i remember playing COD MW2 on medium settings.
Didn't Asus release some small form factor desktops with an Atom and the Ion chipper? I keep looking at them on eBay and getting tempted.
@@IanC14 i think you mean acer with there revo pc's
I bought an MSI Wind U135DX back in February 2011. It had 1GB of RAM, a 160GB HDD loaded with 7 Starter, a 1024x600 display and an Atom N455. I actually *REALLY* liked it when I first picked it up. I was only really using it for coding light applications, so I never noticed most of the complaints others had about the Atom chips of the time. Before long it was running Linux exclusively for Python development and I genuinely didn’t mind it at all. My mom liked mine so much she went out and bought one herself.
I wouldn’t use one now, of course, but I do have fond memories of late nights typing away on that thing with RUclips videos running in the background and liters of soda to keep me going. I dug it out in about 2016 and installed Linux on it fresh to see how it had held up. Yikes...
I'd prefer an AMD APU for a netbook.
If you keep a watch on eBay auctions education surplus actions pop up from time to time on Lenovo Thinkpad X Series 11.6 in laptops, and a lot of them have E series, and A series APU's in them, I have an X131e that has a dual core E series, and is perfect on Manjaro Deepin Linux for my mother for the basics with 6GB of DDR3 RAM, and I have an X140e A series Quad Core @ 1.5Ghz with 8GB of DDR3L Ram that can do some low end gaming like Sonic Mania on Manjaro Deepin. The X series Education models are also rugged AF with the top lids having a rubber bumper around it, but make sure to contact the seller to see if CompuTrace software built into their BIOS/UEFI has not been activated, as it can make replacing an HDD, or WiFi card next to impassable, but still a great deal if you can snag one in good shape for under $100 USD with the power brick, and battery.
Actually my AMD C-60 netbook from 2011 is still chugging along pretty nicely with 120GB SSD and 4GB RAM. 1080p youtube played fine but that’s about the heaviest task it can do smoothly lol.
I have an AMD E350 dating from 2011. The original OS was W7 but it 'qualified' for the W10 upgrade so WTF after a disk image back up so I could revert and voila er uh meh. I find it certainly runs W10 just not very fast. BTW the cpu is a 17W part and the GPU portion will mop the corner of the floor the 450N occupies. Yes, it won't run Crysis. Been there didn't do that. As with most of these netbook type things, low expectations are usually met, rarely exceeded. This is no exception. I will say that an SSD and extra RAM have helped a bit and I find the value of a lower powered laptop that can actually play video at screen resolution for a movie length duration to be reasonable. I did purchase this thing at its lowest price point when new so I feel the value recieved is good.
@@dikbozo i have a e450 on a spare laptop that i use for backing up some data etc. crysis 2 runs on it, like 10-15 fps lol
@@letssaylalala What OS are you running?
My life's shit but at least I don't have one of these notebooks as a daily driver. Thanks for uploading, hope to see more.
I thought you died.
Edit: Great video as always Budget.
The Fable Historian me to man
... I didn’t look at what channel had uploaded it as this popped up in my recommendations. Just the title, not thumbnail or anything else either... I thought it was going to be a weird thing about physics... Now I wish there was a video about old atoms dying out and some sort of new magic atoms taking over... But this was fun to watch too
Damn, much slower than my Atom Z3745D. lmfao.
ohey Wizzy
I sure hope so
I had Asus EEE PC 1005pe netbook in 2010 and I really loved it, it had Atom N450. Upgraded it with 2gb of ram and played World of Warcraft with ~25fps, as long as I stayed out of the larger cities. Battle for Wesnoth, C&C Renegade, Battlefield 1942, Starcraft etc. old games. Battery life was amazing, 12 hours with the screen on. I was conscripted to finnish military and I could put torrents on for the night or fall asleep with the laptop on bed. Typing was great and the machine fit on my pocket.
I have an Acer Aspire One D270 with an Intel atom n2600, I'm running Windows 10 32 bit with 2 gb of RAM, and it still struggles to keep up
Darkandrexander yeah 2gb still sucks you can get I think 4gb on that machine
@@dr_vendetta8361 I can't, I did research and the CPU can only hold 2. Although some users have said that they can get 3 gb working but the machine only has one RAM slot
Oof why not win 7 bcuz low ram
Darkandrexander yeah the CPU says 2gb but the thing can take up to 4gb I have looked at forums for this computer with people saying they were able to get 4 gb working
@@dr_vendetta8361 damn, I might try it out
Wow. I want one of these to run DOS on it. Sweet, sweet raw performance
Watching on my tablet that has a Z3580 quad core 2.33ghz atom
I've got mine that has N570 on it! It was a 1015PX model from ASUS n forever I am grateful cause that laptop has teached me to be VERY PATIENT. Going strong 7 years till now =)
Nice one, try install gentoo on the atom!
~Roger
We don't need to drive people mad.
Imagine, Windows users moving to Gentoo, thinking that it's an easy wonderful OS experience. Lol.
My wife bought me that exact laptop for my deployment to Afghanistan, so that we wouldn't care if it got destroyed by the dust and heat. I quickly upgraded the ram to max speed and size. That made a very noticeable difference in performance.
The little guy held up great and I still have it although the battery is dead. It ran Skype and youtube well and that's all I cared about for my "travel" laptop. I was a helicopter pilot so I would take it with me as I hopped around the AO.
I had a nicer laptop that didn't leave my room, that I used for HD videos and other intensive tasks. But I loved that Samsung, because it worked and if it broke, we weren't out a lot of cash.
The dust over there is insane and will smother electronics, over time.
maybe he'll be able to run minesweeper on windows xp?
edit: 1gb ddr2🤣 I thought my 4gb ddr3 was bad
I do have a pc with 1g(4x256mb) ddr ram, and it can still run visual studio 2005 and cs1.6
1½ year ago my computer broke down, and I was stuck with a netbook (same specs except 2GB RAM) for 4 months. Browsing internet was pure terror, but man - I have never played so many good games in such short time. Strict limitations can be very good for your creativity...
For shits and giggles I kept a list of the games that I have successfully played on the netbook. I have used low settings when needed, often the native resolution of 1024x600 and achieved "playable" framerates of 30+ fps (with the exception of Halo and Soldier of Fortune 2).
- Age of Wonders
- Age of Wonders - Wizard's Throne
- Age of Wonders - Shadow Magic
- Alien vs Predator Classic
- Arcanum of Steamworks and Magic Obscura
- Arma Cold War Assault
- Avadon - Black Fortress
- Baldur's Gate 1
- Baldur's Gate 1
- Battle for Wesnoth
- Delta Force 1
- Delta Force 2
- Delta Force 3 - Land Warrior
- Delta Force 4 - Task Force Dagger
- Deus Ex
- Diablo
- Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Edition
- Dungeon Siege 1
- Dungeon Siege 2
- Fallout 1
- Fallout 2
- Fallout Tactics
- Freedom Fighters
- Freelancer
- Ghost Recon
- Gothic 1
- Gothic 2
- Grand Theft Auto 3
- Grand Theft Auto Vice City
- GzDoom 1.8.02 (Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife)
- Half-Life
(turn off the hq models and textures!)
- Halo
- Heroes of Might & Magic III
- Hidden & Dangerous Deluxe
- Hitman 1
- Icewind Dale 1
- Icewind Dale 2
- Jagged Alliance 1
- Jagged Alliance 2
- Masters of Magic
- Max Payne 1
- Max Payne 2
- Might & Magic 6
- Might & Magic 7
- Morrowind
- Mount & Blade
- OpenXcom
- Outcast
- Planescape Torment
- Privateer - Gemini Gold
- Project I.G.I
- Quake 1
- Quake 2
- Quake 3
- Retro City Rampage
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein
- Rune
- Shadow warrior: Classic Complete
- Soldier of Fortune 1
- Soldier of Fortune 2
- Soldiers of Anarchy
- Starcraft
- Star Trek - Elite Force 1
- Star Trek - Elite Force 2
- Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2 - Outcast
- Star Wars - Jedi Academy
- Sum of All Fears
- SWAT 3
- System Shock 1
- System Shock 2
- Temple of Elemental Evil
- The Thing
- Tiberian Sun
- Unreal Gold
- Unreal Tournament '99
- World of Goo
Don't forget that you can emulate everything up to Playstation 1 / N64 as well.
Nice list
I have three netbooks, one of them was a halftop with N280, other one was HP with N455 and a good o' Lenovo that used to be my relatives' machine with N470. The Lenovo one was a sentimental value to me and had a very long story about it.
I have a Samsung NC10 netbook which was briefly shown in your video, it uses the Atom. I go to the public library frequently and use the wifi in the library. With earphones on I listen to music and watch videos on RUclips with no problems. I cheated a bit by spending 10 bucks on a memory upgrade to 2gb. I also had to put in a new battery. I wiped off xp and put on Lubuntu. I do use it and do enjoy it. It plays RUclips good and I put in a collection of games that it plays nicely, backgammon, chess and so forth. Also I put on chromium with hangouts and can make phone calls from it for free with the wifi. At home I have a nice laptop to use for my daily driver but to carry around this Atom netbook is light and works well for all my needs.
Man, I'm glad you are back. It was boring without you. I watched all of your old videos all over again. Can you make a video about a Duron processors? :)
Have you ever tried Chell 1.8B? Its a modded driver for the GMA 3150 and 950 that boosts performance. I tried it on a old Dell Inspiron that had a 950 and it helped performance quite a bit.
Loved that you used Build 1 from the Sims as the background music.
Using The Sims 1 soundtrack for background music = instant sub.
Love these videos man, keep it up. Excited for future stuff!
I've been using a Samsung N130 netboot with an Atom N270 CPU for the last 9 years - won it in a competition. Upgraded it to the max of 2gb and a large 500gb drive, with XP/Win7 dual boot for the best of both worlds. It's a great machine with 3 USBs, BGN wifi, ethernet and VGA port, SD card and a removable 5hr battery.
Unlike most laptops, this is lightweight, easy to use, cool to the touch and best of all... silent.
Yeah, the performance is not brilliant, the screen res of 1024x600 is small, but it can play DVDs (when hooked up to a USB drive), Quake III, Mame and emulators for 8bit computers - Spectrum, C64 and all that jazz.
Think of it as being a nice Pentium 4 with a few bolt on extras.
I do have a much better and faster PC for when I need it, but my Number one choice is my Netbook!
I have been a user of Intel graphics chips in laptops for many years, I can say with certainty that the chips are more powerful than they appear, there were driver modifiers that extracted every last drop, as well as adding non-existent features like opengl. You also can't use Steam games as a measure of comparison, these source engine games have been improved over the years, with better textures, shaders, etc., to look more beautiful, but they have become more demanding than their 2004 counterparts.
As a N450 owner i recommend running Linux Mint XFCE or Bunsenlabs Linux Helium if you want something a bit more snappy. In both cases try to get a 2GB ram stick and install ZRAM and activate it as a swap space.
Got one still in use every day since 2010 :) (N450, 2 g ram, 64g ssd) It started as a just for fun project, now if it dies, I will really miss it.
1. It's hooked to a 720p TV and works as a media center. Runs the latest 64 bit linux mint mate, and plays back movies from network shares. I found smplayer as the best solution, way more friendly on resources than VLC.
2. 720p youtube also works with minitube, free on linux.
3. Network backup server --> I have both win/linux and mac systems around the house, so I use the netbook as their backup (backing up the desktop, documents, etc folders to an external USB HDD)
4. Started to script some home automation stuff, works beautifully.
5. It's fun. I really love to squeeze out the maximum of these low end machines. If this machine dies I will get an Rpi and port every function to it. It will be a really fun project :)
I have been using a Atom N455 daily since I began High School in 2010. I started studying Computer Science in 2016 and then installed Linux on it. Since Linux lacks all the bloating Windows 7 has, this potato turned into a still slow but seriously usable computer. Last year I discovered a bug in the linux kernel which causes the processor's idle states not to be managed properly, resulting in overheating and battery-draining. After a lot of pain, I found a work-around and issued a bug report: bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201187. You might be interested in it.
@@magiblot1 Thank you for the link, I will give it a try. I also got it as a school machine, but I was interested in linux so pre-installed XP was damped before it's first boot. I have all my schoolwork done on it, watched videos, listened to music (not with it's crappy speakers ofc), lots of chat, web browsing, even a lot of fun with gimp and audacity. Also openTTD is still on my main machine :)
Fun fact: currently I'm working with linux servers and I'm really proud that what this little machine was taught to me. I learned to save on every instruction to get the max out of this really low end hw, currently it's a real adventage in my everydays.
I had a similar model with the same cpu all those years ago, it was good for reading pdfs, note pad, word pad and basic light surfing whilst listening to mp3 music with win amp, at the time it has handy whilst travelling around whilst I was doing my PhD. It was easy to carry and had some uses.it came bundled free with the use 3g dongles.
I took that exact netbook with me, when I was deployed to Afghanistan, in 200/11. It waa great for email and video chatting on Skype. I played movies and music on it too, while I typed emails, documents and downloaded stuff. It wasnt half bad atmultitasking, considering its limitations. It also held up amazingly to the harsh environment. I loved it, for what it was.
A few years back, I picked up for £40, what I regard as, one of the very last old skool netbooks - the Packard Bell EasyNote ME69BMP form 2014. These were basically the cheapest laptops on sale in PC World up until the likes of those HP Stream laptops (and its various rivals) came about with their stupidly small 32GB eMMC hard drives. There was a sense when using this netbook that they had finally become decent with usable performance compared with the early netbooks of the N200/N400 series Atoms, and even N2600/2800 Atom era. This had one of the very early Baytrail Celerons, specifically the N2805, with 2 GB RAM, Windows 8 and a 320GB hard drive. It also had a touchscreen which worked fairly well. And overall it was a perfectly decent machine with decent battery life (for the time) and was properly usable. RUclips playback at 720p was also no issue, and so was 1080p (provided it wasn't a 1080p 60 video). With an upgrade to 4GB RAM (its maximum) and an SSD, it even ran Windows 10 smoothly.
The first time I saw a net book o believe the eeepc I was BLOWN AWAY. I never had a laptop and the fact that you could have a tiny laptop for 150 was insane to me
12:12 The new Lubuntu (with LXQT) sucks at driver support. My mom has a Samsung N150 netbook with the same specs as yours. When I installed Lubuntu 20.04 on it, even the keyboard's Fn control for backlight and sound volume didn't work at all and the start menu was glitchy, but when I installed Lubuntu 18.04 (with LXDE) instead, everything worked fine out of the box. I recently upgraded its ram to 2 gb, replaced its HDD with a cheap SSD, disabled the "CPU power saving mode" from BIOS and installed Linux Mint 20 XFCE edition on it which worked like a charm. It's snappy (especially after I decreased the swappiness to 30), more user-friendly and has got good driver support.
That's The Sims 1 music in the background... now? :O The memories rush in. Haven't played it in like 10 years but that music is burnt into my mind.
I got an Asus EEE PC 1001PX a few years ago second hand, which has this little N450 in, and it's definitely no gaming machine, but it definitely has its uses still. I upgrade to 2gb of RAM and added a small SSD in it and that gave it a little more speed for what I need, running Windows 7 64bit. Things like popping out to fix a router setup, doing work in Word, basic internet stuff, and when I spent 3 weeks in hospital it was there with me youtubing no problem. It's small, light, doesn't overheat, runs well for what it's for... I have other beefier machines, but for something to just slip in my handbag even and just take to do something, it's great, especially as my main form of transport is a motorbike. I need to get a new battery for it, and I will get one because I do get my use out of it
Glad your back :) hope you had a lovely break.
I've got an Asus EeePC 1001 PXD with that Atom. It's running as my linux-based print server now due to the fact that it's unusable for anything requiring direct contact with the computer.
Edit:
Actually it's an N455
Wait, I actually used to have a computer with the same or at least a very similar CPU.
But I had it on an Intel Desktop Board instead of a laptop.
okay it's wild you're playing Sims build mode music WHILE i'm playing Sims 1
This was interesting. Can't wait for the next one!
These are actually perfect little machines for things like diagnostics in cars or machinery. I even use one to run my cnc router.
They're also pretty sturdy which makes them even more suited for workplace tasks.
they are also good for running o scope software, and even radio software, unfortunately the authors of these programs keep making the software require 4+ cores.
so you are stuck on old versions when there really is no need.
I used to take my netbook to transfer music to people's phone at work. Worked great for that!
1:52 man your potato jokes are hilarious😂
Back in Grade 6 my mum bought me LG X140 And it was my first step into desktop gaming believe it or not I was able to play crossfire fps game with this little monster that time and it makes me feel grateful now that I can pretty much afford every computer part I wish to put in my pc.