Everyone has to be boxed in and labeled. Maybe thats what they mean when they say "just be yourself". Sometimes i feel like they mean "know your place and stay there".
Think for a minute. In both major religions it was common practice to not even allow you to know how to read or write. Knowledge is power. The modern version is are you online or not. Are you shadow banned or not. Same as it ever was.
@@Matthew-zu6tm This isn't a religious phenomenon but a social one. As for Christianity, in the early ages literacy was encouraged, but that was before it was institutionalized. Ruling classes instinctively gatekeep power, that's how it has always been.
@@Raphy_Afk you really don't understand do you? The POPE, along with the Kind of England used religion as a method of control. Stained glass in churches were to teach the literally illiterate as well as an iron barrier to deny entry from break ins. Religion in the US is a separation of Church and state for the exact reason to try and stop the same situation of England or the Papal state. Tax or Tithe, it's the same thing. Two sides of a fake currency in the same game. Though in the US in particular we fund the Israel state directly. So. That experiment of separation of Church and state failed completely.
When someone else tells you to just be yourself, they are telling you to be the "yourself" that is "their" interpretation of who you are. It's not about "your" interpretation of yourself or any freedom to be what you want to be. Being a slave to another person's interpretation of who you are is no way to live life, but that is what you become if you live in the box of another person's interpretation of the aspect of how you choose to be yourself. Really the advice should not be to "be yourself", but rather to "be what you want to be".
Which is largly why anyone who says "inventing X thing has pros and cons" You really need to consider the cons. Because no matter the potential pros you may get, the cons will always happen and always in a higher measure than expected or even predicted for.
Labels keep men divided and at each other's throats. Men play right into it instead of focusing on issues facing men and forging solidarity. A house divided can not stand
The term basically means "wrong" when you think about it. There's being "Right"... Then there's being "Far Right". Basically an underhanded way of calling someone a moron.
Blaming everyone you deem beneath you for all of society’s ills but those who are causing all your problems who are the top 1% who allow your society to inundated with cheap labour and a bigger local market for their products is also very dangerous
@@TheSuperappelflap I mean when you type comments like this I think its time you just hire a good looking escort to fulfill your desires and be at peace.
I slept so deep last night, the construction workers started at 7 behind my house and I had a dream about a parade walking past. It included a midget for some reason.
I’ve often thought of Stardusk as gazonga-pilled because of one of his exes. Hopefully people get the humor in this statement. I always find Stardusk’s videos to be very though-provoking and eagerly anticipate their releases.
You're basically describing brainrot. Everything is a weird joke or a meme. Every behavior is some kind of -maxxing. There are no individuals anymore, not on the internet at least.
I’ve noticed that everything is a joke and nothing is genuine anymore, even in real life. When I talk to people I honestly can’t tell if they’re lying to me or not, I have no people skills, so I just take it on the chin.
@@neverbeganforme Life has always been one big cosmic joke. Thats one of the tenets of buddhism, which is one of the oldest surviving religions. None of this is new. All of it has happened before and will happen again in the weaving of the infinite tapestry of the universe. We are not the needle, we are only the threads.
@@TheSuperappelflap “time is a flat circle” everything that I have ever done will happen again sometime in the future by the same person, just with a different alias, race, and look.
I think a lot of it comes down to the generation of the speaker and also listener, I cannot even understand what zoomers are saying most of the time, when they communicate it sounds like a mix of memes and ebonics to me
Well yeah they dont learn anything in school, their parents neglect them, and the youtube and tiktok videos they watch all day dont teach them how to speak properly. Its hardly their fault. Its a failure of society to raise these children, at all.
My first gf was into astrology, so I also studied it in detail and got quite "good" at it. Then I looked up statistics and realised it had no predictive power. It also taught me a lot about how systems can evolve that specifically work around our ability to detect bs. After that I also turned away from Christianity.
The people who would call themselves self-help gurus and life coaches, who may not deny genetics but act as if humans are a blank slate. Personally I don't like to use labels on myself, I go by ideas instead.
Innatism has been debunked, there is no innate knowledge, all knowledge is derived from sense experience, John Locke discovered this over 300 years ago. If by chance you encounter babies born with a comprehensive knowledge of mathematics, geometry, philosophy, please show me... because it is VERY clear that human beings are born with extremely little if any innate knowledge. They aren't even born knowing that objects are permanent. Object permanence is one of the milestones of human understanding that many psychologists study. Moreover, people are not born with an innate knowledge of how to walk, talk, etc. Now, as for genetics, which was before Locke's time, I have no idea how genetics plays a role. But innatism - which was the actual philosophy that the blank slate ideology was meant to criticize - that has been debunked. It pays dividends to actually read the books of the ideas being discoursed about - because you really learn what ideas are actually being criticized and what has very little to do with the arguments at hand. Now classical blank slaters can be differentiated from neo-blank slaters in that the classical theories didn't have genetic theories to work with - as the understanding of genetics didn't come for a couple of hundred years after the idea of the blank slate was introduced into philosophy. As for the neo-blank-slaters, I would have to figure out in what way they are fundamentally different than the OG thinkers from the late 1600's. Mind you the blank slate influenced some the the ideas of the founders of the United States - The phrase life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness makes more sense from a Lockean perspective (Locke heavily influenced the philosophical thought of the founders) if you assume that happiness is NOT innate, and a person has to learn how to live life in such a way as to be happy, and that the pursuit of happiness requires the development of self knowledge towards that end. The main problem I have with the idea of genetics, is that genetics becomes an excuse to justify failure or an easy way to dismiss someone else's success (oh so and so must just have good genes) - rather than focus on the issue at hand as a "skill issue". Even worse genetics arguments are when genetic theories become so abstract that they might as well be "woo woo" in terms of actually relating a cause to the effect. If you can't explain something in terms of direct effect to cause then your arguments are nebulous and therefore not useful. I find genetic theory to be limited in its usefulness. At best your genes might affect certain cancers and some other health conditions, and that might be useful for health management - but it's not particularly useful for self improvement. It's good to know if certain cancers run in the family - but that knowledge has limits to its usefulness. It is primarily limited to being useful for health management.
That’s how they make money. Everyone does this. They rely on the idea that everyone is a blank slate so they can sell you a way to change. They also do it so no one envies them. There are a lot of people that know it’s bs.
What exactly should do they do instead? If you want to learn how to be better at something would you buy a book that just reiterates how it’s determined by genetics rather than telling you what you can actually do?
@@billusher2265 You self-improve but acknowledge your limits. What the aforementioned gurus and coaches do is sell you a dream that you can't achieve, scald you for failing, upsell to make more money and repeat.
@@billusher2265 you have to try different things. The key I believe is to start with small things of no consequence, and pay attention if they lead to small improvements. Then over time try things that take more and more effort. And record the results. Being organized and having a plan helps substantially. A lot of these gurus talk about journaling which I think is a strange form of just keeping a record of what you do and observe. Also it’s important to be humble and respect what you can and can’t do. Also you should think about what you like and dislike and why you like and dislike them, so you understand what you want better. It makes it easier to figure out how to get what you want and satisfy yourself to the best of your ability. Observe people more successful than you. Don’t take their words too seriously because people lie constantly. Look at what they do and what they are, not what they say they do and what they are. If you are to listen to what people say, ask from multiple different perspectives.
Zoomers are really lowering the quality of the comment section. Reading past comments they seemed more insightful compared to now, I guess this is what happens when all the OG commenters go away
Human communication is a joke anyway, when you come to think about it. Scholars and men of great mind can genuinely communicate. The rest communicate either for basic things or because they want to reaffirm their own pathetic, biased egos.
The truth is that you need to be social and talkative in every group of people you need to wear a mask so as to be accepted in that group... The truth is that great minds and people may not be egoistic or arrogant and so tha communication is better also there some chill people with whom you can talk more freely... Generally communication is shit and you constantly thinking what to say how to say etc...or in my case just ignore these kind of people
Yup buzz words lead to socially accepted “truths” But when one is interested in uncomfortable truths as opposed to convenient and comforting “truths”, shaking off the labels people try to assign to you is part of the territory. Labels are a signal that you are wasting your breath.
Well frankly, there is nothing to be said that hasn't been said before. Even just understanding the reality of this is isolating enough. People have mostly picked their sides and will die on them. Boinking one another is kind of the last REAL communicator we really have left. Though personally, I refuse to partake in it. Why? I realize is the last band aid needing to be ripped off so to speak. At the end of it, we all wanted the boxes, and the pills, and the cope and desired the dopamine kick of it and that was all it was worth/about. Everyone was apart of the problem, and still refused the solution.
Why the hell is originality so important? It doesnt have to be a new thing to be profound. Bro stop shoveling pessimism into your soul, coming from a pessimist
The purpose of most human interaction (for better or worse) is to have one's existing beliefs reinforced. Immediately labeling and dismissing others minimizes one's exposure to new ideas, which shields the ego, but also promotes ignorance.
There was a Next Gen episode where the crew encounters an alien race that could only communicate by making inside references to their personal stories and myths. I thought this was ridiculous at the time, but now I think something like that is where we're heading in terms of language.
Stardusk's ability to self criticise and him being able to stay relatively unbiased in current era where most humans are imprisoned in their ideological bubble is astounishing.
SD's thoughtful discussion with the masses, compared to the pill dispensers who dont attempt the task. Leads me to a "label" for SD i have maintained: Gem of the Manosphere.
Labels are important to push a narrative along. The problem is when people conflate the labels in conversation. Using said label to form an opinion. Which often detracts.
There was a professor named Herbert Brun who back in the 60's I think said that life systems depend on what he called "anti-communication," or communication by way of words that do not have readily available encoders and decoders for them. He also had interesting observations, such as: "War protects us from our conflicts." The state of conflict is very difficult -- if you just kill your opponents, you don't have to have the conflict any more. So he said: "Conflict yes, War no." If you want to make a world without war, you need to make more space for conflict. I thought he was a really interesting guy.
Anybody remember the 60 Minutes episode were they nailed the drug company for charging an outrageous price for human use but farmers got it almost free? They proved the only difference was the colouring used . . . Learned then not to trust them after getting the government on board.
Gavin far-right? He is a Canadian conservative, which is basically a moderate in America. The man felt like he was trying too hard to fit in with millennials then he did trying to say anything conservative.
Yeah I agree. I can't even relate in conversations where these labels are thrown around like presents on Christmas day - so I generally just opt out and get even further out of the loop.
Pills used to be useful to describe certain frameworks and collections of information quickly, but they've been so thoroughly abused and misunderstood that they're worthless, now. For instance, I very commonly see "blackpilled" used as a simple euphemism for "existential depression."
A crucial video, it would be better if more people were more willing to listen to somebody else's opinion for more than 3 minutes. But generally it might be already over, that's the world we live in.
Some thing's: I can forget, but not forgive. Some thing's: I can forgive, but no forget. Some thing's: I can't do either. They have spent the past however long calling me everything under the sun. Just because I am a Heterosexual, White male that has Blonde hair and Blue eyes. I don't WANT to understand their perspective, they should've thought about that before they shit all over me for years on end.
Good points here. I can't talk to my dad about any of this stuff without sort of just letting him "discover" it on his own then letting him bring it up, and then I have to be careful in just making open ended statements or answering his questions with other questions. He's deep into "blue pill" territory and has a bad case of TDS even though he agrees with most of T's policy ideas. But, IMO, I don't think the labels are all that terrible. We use labels just to communicate complex ideas quickly and without them, we'd have to give our entire life history every time we greeted a stranger. The problem lies I think with equating labels with something that's all bad or all good, when the label is not meant to carry a value of bad or good at all. It's just a label, a symbol to aid understanding and communication.
Putting people and things into categories is a perfectly normal thing to do. It's something humans evolved to do. You don't have time to talk in depth with entire every person you meet, but your brain will naturally want to categorize them. I think categorization is fine as long as you're open to adjusting it as needed based on new data. The alternative of treating everyone as a completely original snowflake is completely unworkable.
If it was human nature then everyone would do it, but people who have any worldly experience, like traveling or simply interacting with lots of different people, all know that you shouldnt judge a book by its cover. The categorizing is a pathology, a coping mechanism for people who have lacked human interaction and worldly experience in their lives. For children, that is acceptable, but they should be taught not to do that and have enough experience by the time they are adults. But being permanently online hampers their ability to gain real world experience, and therefore the dogmatism and pathology has increased severely over the past 30 years.
A lot of these systems of analyzing others, even the more scientific ones like psychology, are attempts to read other peoples minds. In reality, they end up being forms of mind control for everyone involved. Scandalizing other people so that they act a certain way, categorizing them, and forcing them into boxes so that they’re easier to beat. I used to be very far right wing, until I realized that the absurdity of my political opponents had robbed me of my empathy for my fellow citizens. It’s a lot easier to dismantle somebody’s arguments when they are wholly one version or another ideologue.
Psychology is a pseudo-science. 75% of studies published in psych journals cannot be replicated in independent trials. In other words, they just make stuff up. And then charge people $150 an hour for their bunk. If you need therapy, just go outside, play some sports, go for a walk, meditate, eat healthy food, get plenty of sleep, maybe go make some new friends or move to a new town or get a new job. You dont need anyone to tell you whats wrong with you. It doesnt matter anyway.
I think the labels are a shorthand for understanding the baseline of where someone is coming from. I'm willing to engage with anyone willing to discuss reality but most of the time in every camp most people are stuck in their delusion, denying truth. So applying the label is GOOD -- it allows you to see that wasting time discussing anything of substance with such people is pointless and futile. I have many disagreements with people in my camp too and sometimes get to the point of futility there, but at least there's the color-pill of baseline understanding. It's what used to be simply a shared sense of reality. People had different perspectives but we all shared a common reality. We DON'T ANYMORE. Now we use the pill terminology to know if a person is in the same REALITY we are. Because there's no point discussing reality with a creature from a completely different one.
i don't think that's a specific internet problem, mass communication just amplifies it big time. it's our brains need to categorize everything and everyone and tribalism, which has also been massively amped up by nutty politics and the "culture war".
I hope your hand is improving SD. I had a pokie win of 500 bucks and thought of you when i won the Maxi on Bullrush. Got paypal now ontop of patreon. Ill bet that hand has even screwed up your gaming requirements. I have a new Cyberpunk leather jacket coming for poker tournaments so the boys are gonna love it.
@@thinking-ape6483 when that cast comes off, if you have one, prepare for a smell. I remember that smell. Like 3 week old feet lol. At least you can come out of this with a useful left hand.
@@droppeddogs na I'm 8k down for machines in 12 months with 200 a week for fun. Ten minutes in between poker tournaments. And sometimes you win more than the poker tournament. Ten minutes at 50c a hit you can't loose more than 100 bucks. Two poker games a week. That is a steady amount. My friends drop 5k in 1 hour. Some months SD gets more than I lose on the machines. And I saved my brother's family too. A slap doesn't hurt if you are strong enough to walk away. :)
I don't think there are too many pills, they're just overused and applied too broadly. That being said, if I've determined that a person is indeed "blue pilled," I usually don't want to deal with that person beyond what is absolutely necessary. It depends on the issues and context of the discussion, but someone appropriately identified this way isn't generally worth the time and energy involved for a meaningful interaction.
I think in a broader context what you are running up against is the language / cultural barrier. Language is the very first and last invisible line of distinction between groups. Even those within the same country yet alone generation, social class, or country. The key markers of hot button words are where the lines can be found. Each word is life a fence post in the line. With the literal world "online" that is international. Traditional borders mean nothing. So the language one uses has taken on that role far more than it has in the past.
@thinking-ape Q: excuse me sir, sorry to bother you, but do you know what has happened to our friend The Franklin (formerly known as Reactionary Expat)? I'm sure many of us wonder, & you two seem to have been in some contact if I recall. Thanks for any info you might be able to provide, & regards, G.M. o/
There the red pill, blue pill, purple pill in between, black pill, white pill, gray pill in between, and orange pill. There's still room for yellow, green, pink, brown, teal, indigo, turquoise, magenta, gold, ...
The labeling in regard to politics is especially funny for me. If I talk about economics, Im a communist. If I talk about social issues, Im a conservative. If I talk about demographic changes, Im far right. If I talk about personal freedoms, Im a liberal. (in the classical sense) Does that seem right to you?
Only way to truly escape it, is to go live with the animals. Even if you move to a third world country, you still have customary believes to deal with, religions ect. Really depends on what one can tolerate day to day. I'm a hermit frankly. To many caught in the loop of endless nonsense. I'm even at the point now of buying old shows, movies and games before they got all..well, you know. Getting to the point of perhaps letting go of the internet in large part also. Only used for the absolute essentials. Once the internet was where you went to escape life, now life is what you do to escape the internet.
People seem to want have it both ways where they want to individualists and be unique as individuals but want the collectivism of identity and rigidly putting themselves and others in boxes. We can’t be radical individualists as we are part of the community and we need community and radically being too unique and being yourself has nasty consequences of looking creepy and therefore being shunned! However we seem to want both in an equally unhealthy destructive way! It will be interesting if America as the “world’s dominant superpower” can either resolve these absurdities or even survive it! It can’t continue with it!
I've often asked people to use their own words to describe their feelings and general worldview...because I've gotten tired of trying to follow entire discussions consisting of nothing but jargon ("Dude used to be cuckpilled 'til he got so totally simpcucked that he went mauvepill LULZ", etc.). Without question, this has been damaging to the discourse. Terminally online folks might as well be typing "twenty-three skidoo" for all the sense it makes to the casual observer who might otherwise want to join the discussion.
Class struggle. Needs classification. The more abstract and obscure the better to focus on the smallest point of different. Left right National vs international socialist. Colour pill revolution. It all boils down to us against them.
Women love astrology because it provider a shadow of spirituality, but without the moral and social requirements of religion. In other words, a cheap replacement for religion, with no actual responsibilities and sacrifices... kind of the equivalent of tasty food with no nutritional value.
3:08 Yeah...no in this aspect, you're back-peddling. Because algorithm actually hates the term black pill and red pill. In fact, those channels are suppressed a lot, you yourself have claimed this. So using those terms would not be good for views. So, either you've changed your mind, which isn't a bad thing and is in fact a very respectable thing to do, or you're pretending for some reason or something else is going on. Now if you're claiming that you never claimed yourself to be a blackpilled, then it's different because you haven't as far as I can recall.
Everyone has to be boxed in and labeled. Maybe thats what they mean when they say "just be yourself". Sometimes i feel like they mean "know your place and stay there".
I think you pout it roughly
For me it's "don't try to be someone else because you can't anyway"
Think for a minute. In both major religions it was common practice to not even allow you to know how to read or write.
Knowledge is power.
The modern version is are you online or not. Are you shadow banned or not.
Same as it ever was.
@@Matthew-zu6tm This isn't a religious phenomenon but a social one.
As for Christianity, in the early ages literacy was encouraged, but that was before it was institutionalized.
Ruling classes instinctively gatekeep power, that's how it has always been.
@@Raphy_Afk you really don't understand do you? The POPE, along with the Kind of England used religion as a method of control. Stained glass in churches were to teach the literally illiterate as well as an iron barrier to deny entry from break ins.
Religion in the US is a separation of Church and state for the exact reason to try and stop the same situation of England or the Papal state. Tax or Tithe, it's the same thing. Two sides of a fake currency in the same game.
Though in the US in particular we fund the Israel state directly. So. That experiment of separation of Church and state failed completely.
When someone else tells you to just be yourself, they are telling you to be the "yourself" that is "their" interpretation of who you are. It's not about "your" interpretation of yourself or any freedom to be what you want to be. Being a slave to another person's interpretation of who you are is no way to live life, but that is what you become if you live in the box of another person's interpretation of the aspect of how you choose to be yourself. Really the advice should not be to "be yourself", but rather to "be what you want to be".
Every pill is an oversimplification.
Important oversimplifications however because they highlight truths about the world people selfishly desire to suppress
Bullshit
@@calypsohandjack9278 Please elaborate.
@@calypsohandjack9278 How? We all know your thoughts desires and trauma are complex. Don't even start...
@@Rabb1tOfT1me every time I get close to a chocolate person I get an erection in my right arm and I start speaking German.
The Thinking Ape is my spirit animal.
a Brother and a Friend
same.
and way ahead of his time.
Gotta say it in German to get the like
LMFAO!
I get it.
Why😮@@salpertia
Everything gets corrupted over time, mainly because the norm shifts.
Or because of entropy.
idiots get involved and it's all downhill from there
Which is largly why anyone who says "inventing X thing has pros and cons"
You really need to consider the cons. Because no matter the potential pros you may get, the cons will always happen and always in a higher measure than expected or even predicted for.
Labels keep men divided and at each other's throats. Men play right into it instead of focusing on issues facing men and forging solidarity. A house divided can not stand
From wisdom to programming.
Labeling people with common sense as "Far Right". This is very damaging to our society.
The term basically means "wrong" when you think about it. There's being "Right"... Then there's being "Far Right". Basically an underhanded way of calling someone a moron.
Meh. Everyone's idea of common sense is akin to right and wrong.
It's subjective to the individual.
‘Common sense’ for complex issues tends to be wrong, off, or utterly useless and lacks any consideration for those impacted.
@@jimbojimbo6873 Especially in an increasingly complicated and interconnected world that still wishes to moderate everything with tribal instincts.
Blaming everyone you deem beneath you for all of society’s ills but those who are causing all your problems who are the top 1% who allow your society to inundated with cheap labour and a bigger local market for their products is also very dangerous
I don't know why women are so obsessed with astrology.
Because they're witches.
Fairytales
Clinging to nonsense
they are just delusional
It seems to me that’s it’s another way of having an excuse for not holding themselves accountable.
Everything I say about women gets me called an incel, I mean, I am one but they still call me incel immediately. It just makes me hate them even more.
Dont worry, Im not an incel and they also call me one when I criticize their terrorist behaviour.
@@TheSuperappelflap I mean when you type comments like this I think its time you just hire a good looking escort to fulfill your desires and be at peace.
People online are idiots and jump to conclusions? noooooo
😂
Yeah I've never been called something I'm not
People in "real life" are even worse.
it's hard to understand even people you know in text messages, often
Strawmanning must be the most used fallacy online and ties into video topic.
Brother Ape, hope you are in good health and are getting some deep sleep.
I slept so deep last night, the construction workers started at 7 behind my house and I had a dream about a parade walking past. It included a midget for some reason.
There's a pill for that too.
The old school "Chill Pill".
I’ve often thought of Stardusk as gazonga-pilled because of one of his exes. Hopefully people get the humor in this statement. I always find Stardusk’s videos to be very though-provoking and eagerly anticipate their releases.
Haha the ex with the big bazoookas. I remember that video too.
Huge....tracts of land
You're basically describing brainrot. Everything is a weird joke or a meme. Every behavior is some kind of -maxxing. There are no individuals anymore, not on the internet at least.
I’ve noticed that everything is a joke and nothing is genuine anymore, even in real life. When I talk to people I honestly can’t tell if they’re lying to me or not, I have no people skills, so I just take it on the chin.
@@neverbeganforme Life has always been one big cosmic joke. Thats one of the tenets of buddhism, which is one of the oldest surviving religions. None of this is new. All of it has happened before and will happen again in the weaving of the infinite tapestry of the universe. We are not the needle, we are only the threads.
@@TheSuperappelflap “time is a flat circle” everything that I have ever done will happen again sometime in the future by the same person, just with a different alias, race, and look.
@@neverbeganforme true detective reference?
@@TheSuperappelflap yes. I thought that was profound when I first saw it not realizing it’s already a religion, Buddhism.
I think a lot of it comes down to the generation of the speaker and also listener, I cannot even understand what zoomers are saying most of the time, when they communicate it sounds like a mix of memes and ebonics to me
@@Gneeznow 😂
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they are maybe hella awkward
No cap.
Well yeah they dont learn anything in school, their parents neglect them, and the youtube and tiktok videos they watch all day dont teach them how to speak properly. Its hardly their fault. Its a failure of society to raise these children, at all.
My first gf was into astrology, so I also studied it in detail and got quite "good" at it. Then I looked up statistics and realised it had no predictive power. It also taught me a lot about how systems can evolve that specifically work around our ability to detect bs. After that I also turned away from Christianity.
Im still hanging on to an older version of the red pill
colour doesn't matter
clinging to any pill, it's over for you
I generally disagree with being exactly what fee males want, RP seemingly was hijacked by grifters
Interesting, do tell.
@@ModelJames13 An encoded memory i suppose,
i wrote a long version let me know if you want to hear it or i’ll wait until almost a hundred likes ig
The people who would call themselves self-help gurus and life coaches, who may not deny genetics but act as if humans are a blank slate. Personally I don't like to use labels on myself, I go by ideas instead.
Innatism has been debunked, there is no innate knowledge, all knowledge is derived from sense experience, John Locke discovered this over 300 years ago. If by chance you encounter babies born with a comprehensive knowledge of mathematics, geometry, philosophy, please show me... because it is VERY clear that human beings are born with extremely little if any innate knowledge. They aren't even born knowing that objects are permanent. Object permanence is one of the milestones of human understanding that many psychologists study. Moreover, people are not born with an innate knowledge of how to walk, talk, etc.
Now, as for genetics, which was before Locke's time, I have no idea how genetics plays a role. But innatism - which was the actual philosophy that the blank slate ideology was meant to criticize - that has been debunked. It pays dividends to actually read the books of the ideas being discoursed about - because you really learn what ideas are actually being criticized and what has very little to do with the arguments at hand.
Now classical blank slaters can be differentiated from neo-blank slaters in that the classical theories didn't have genetic theories to work with - as the understanding of genetics didn't come for a couple of hundred years after the idea of the blank slate was introduced into philosophy. As for the neo-blank-slaters, I would have to figure out in what way they are fundamentally different than the OG thinkers from the late 1600's.
Mind you the blank slate influenced some the the ideas of the founders of the United States - The phrase life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness makes more sense from a Lockean perspective (Locke heavily influenced the philosophical thought of the founders) if you assume that happiness is NOT innate, and a person has to learn how to live life in such a way as to be happy, and that the pursuit of happiness requires the development of self knowledge towards that end.
The main problem I have with the idea of genetics, is that genetics becomes an excuse to justify failure or an easy way to dismiss someone else's success (oh so and so must just have good genes) - rather than focus on the issue at hand as a "skill issue". Even worse genetics arguments are when genetic theories become so abstract that they might as well be "woo woo" in terms of actually relating a cause to the effect. If you can't explain something in terms of direct effect to cause then your arguments are nebulous and therefore not useful. I find genetic theory to be limited in its usefulness. At best your genes might affect certain cancers and some other health conditions, and that might be useful for health management - but it's not particularly useful for self improvement. It's good to know if certain cancers run in the family - but that knowledge has limits to its usefulness. It is primarily limited to being useful for health management.
That’s how they make money. Everyone does this. They rely on the idea that everyone is a blank slate so they can sell you a way to change. They also do it so no one envies them.
There are a lot of people that know it’s bs.
What exactly should do they do instead? If you want to learn how to be better at something would you buy a book that just reiterates how it’s determined by genetics rather than telling you what you can actually do?
@@billusher2265 You self-improve but acknowledge your limits. What the aforementioned gurus and coaches do is sell you a dream that you can't achieve, scald you for failing, upsell to make more money and repeat.
@@billusher2265 you have to try different things. The key I believe is to start with small things of no consequence, and pay attention if they lead to small improvements. Then over time try things that take more and more effort. And record the results. Being organized and having a plan helps substantially.
A lot of these gurus talk about journaling which I think is a strange form of just keeping a record of what you do and observe.
Also it’s important to be humble and respect what you can and can’t do.
Also you should think about what you like and dislike and why you like and dislike them, so you understand what you want better. It makes it easier to figure out how to get what you want and satisfy yourself to the best of your ability.
Observe people more successful than you. Don’t take their words too seriously because people lie constantly. Look at what they do and what they are, not what they say they do and what they are. If you are to listen to what people say, ask from multiple different perspectives.
Zoomers are really lowering the quality of the comment section. Reading past comments they seemed more insightful compared to now, I guess this is what happens when all the OG commenters go away
It's what happens when younger men get shut out of the dating market and the flood these spaces and miss the entire point
Also censored or removed by admins.
balls
lmao
😂
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Human communication is a joke anyway, when you come to think about it. Scholars and men of great mind can genuinely communicate. The rest communicate either for basic things or because they want to reaffirm their own pathetic, biased egos.
The truth is that you need to be social and talkative in every group of people you need to wear a mask so as to be accepted in that group... The truth is that great minds and people may not be egoistic or arrogant and so tha communication is better also there some chill people with whom you can talk more freely... Generally communication is shit and you constantly thinking what to say how to say etc...or in my case just ignore these kind of people
Yep. Makes "relationships" hard if you got a little juice in the melon.
Bit unhinged to say human communication is a joke.
(Grunting)
Lol have you heard most "scholars" argue? If they hold opposing views it can come to fisticuffs like its congress in the 1800s
Yup buzz words lead to socially accepted “truths”
But when one is interested in uncomfortable truths as opposed to convenient and comforting “truths”, shaking off the labels people try to assign to you is part of the territory.
Labels are a signal that you are wasting your breath.
Well frankly, there is nothing to be said that hasn't been said before. Even just understanding the reality of this is isolating enough. People have mostly picked their sides and will die on them. Boinking one another is kind of the last REAL communicator we really have left. Though personally, I refuse to partake in it. Why? I realize is the last band aid needing to be ripped off so to speak. At the end of it, we all wanted the boxes, and the pills, and the cope and desired the dopamine kick of it and that was all it was worth/about. Everyone was apart of the problem, and still refused the solution.
Why the hell is originality so important? It doesnt have to be a new thing to be profound. Bro stop shoveling pessimism into your soul, coming from a pessimist
The purpose of most human interaction (for better or worse) is to have one's existing beliefs reinforced. Immediately labeling and dismissing others minimizes one's exposure to new ideas, which shields the ego, but also promotes ignorance.
There was a Next Gen episode where the crew encounters an alien race that could only communicate by making inside references to their personal stories and myths. I thought this was ridiculous at the time, but now I think something like that is where we're heading in terms of language.
Darmok, season 5 episode 2 of Star Trek: The Next Generation, if anyone wants to (re)watch it.
First it’s over
It never began
Second lets Cope 🎉
If you're so funny
Then why are you on your own tonight?
And if you're so clever
Then why are you on your own tonight?
Four hours later, and it's still over.
It's JoevER
Stardusk's ability to self criticise and him being able to stay relatively unbiased in current era where most humans are imprisoned in their ideological bubble is astounishing.
SD's thoughtful discussion with the masses, compared to the pill dispensers who dont attempt the task. Leads me to a "label" for SD i have maintained: Gem of the Manosphere.
COAL of the woman-osphere
I don't like Pills, but wahmen seem to love the Dogpill, Horsepill, Chadpill, Ab0rtion pill...
Chadpill is too huwait sumemecy, it's Jamalpill now
Birth control pill, no-accountability pill etc
@@Fightookaishiishit take
@@Aleiza_49what is the shit take?
@@MarioMario-vy4bi birth control = non-accountability. That's a braindead take.
Labels are important to push a narrative along. The problem is when people conflate the labels in conversation. Using said label to form an opinion. Which often detracts.
There was a professor named Herbert Brun who back in the 60's I think said that life systems depend on what he called "anti-communication," or communication by way of words that do not have readily available encoders and decoders for them. He also had interesting observations, such as: "War protects us from our conflicts." The state of conflict is very difficult -- if you just kill your opponents, you don't have to have the conflict any more. So he said: "Conflict yes, War no." If you want to make a world without war, you need to make more space for conflict. I thought he was a really interesting guy.
Anybody remember the 60 Minutes episode were they nailed the drug company for charging an outrageous price for human use but farmers got it almost free?
They proved the only difference was the colouring used . . .
Learned then not to trust them after getting the government on board.
I went for almost a year avoiding Gavin McGuinness because of the alt-right label, before we figured out it was basically meaningless.
You didn't miss much, Gavin is a moron.
Gavin far-right? He is a Canadian conservative, which is basically a moderate in America. The man felt like he was trying too hard to fit in with millennials then he did trying to say anything conservative.
@@MourningDove-bn4dk That was my favorite Jordan Peterson moment: "WTF Trudeau! Canadian Nazis? Where? When?"
I can agree with the right for example 9/10 times. I take the left's side 1/10 times and all of a sudden they think I'm a leftist soy boy.
This channel is exactly what I need right now.
Hey thinking ape i really appreciate you. Im gonna tune in whenever you upload. If you could some how live forever that would be majorly appreciated
as an charlie omega male , magenta pillled , sagitarius , i must say that i agree
Are you also a ENFP?
Nice try AI
Yeah I agree. I can't even relate in conversations where these labels are thrown around like presents on Christmas day - so I generally just opt out and get even further out of the loop.
Pills used to be useful to describe certain frameworks and collections of information quickly, but they've been so thoroughly abused and misunderstood that they're worthless, now. For instance, I very commonly see "blackpilled" used as a simple euphemism for "existential depression."
0:12 was it the one with the big hazonkas?
A crucial video, it would be better if more people were more willing to listen to somebody else's opinion for more than 3 minutes. But generally it might be already over, that's the world we live in.
Some thing's: I can forget, but not forgive.
Some thing's: I can forgive, but no forget.
Some thing's: I can't do either.
They have spent the past however long calling me everything under the sun. Just because I am a Heterosexual, White male that has Blonde hair and Blue eyes. I don't WANT to understand their perspective, they should've thought about that before they shit all over me for years on end.
Are you an albino.
... male that has blond hair ...
(blonde is the feminine form of this adjective)
Aryan-pilled man moves ever closer to going full Reinhard von Lohengramm.
@@LustyLichKing thats what they get for calling him Reinhard Heydrich
I'm a boat pilled sink maxxer 😂
I remember this always has been the case. People use labels to simplify their understanding of the world. Laziness for critical thinking.
Good points here. I can't talk to my dad about any of this stuff without sort of just letting him "discover" it on his own then letting him bring it up, and then I have to be careful in just making open ended statements or answering his questions with other questions. He's deep into "blue pill" territory and has a bad case of TDS even though he agrees with most of T's policy ideas.
But, IMO, I don't think the labels are all that terrible. We use labels just to communicate complex ideas quickly and without them, we'd have to give our entire life history every time we greeted a stranger. The problem lies I think with equating labels with something that's all bad or all good, when the label is not meant to carry a value of bad or good at all. It's just a label, a symbol to aid understanding and communication.
Putting people and things into categories is a perfectly normal thing to do. It's something humans evolved to do. You don't have time to talk in depth with entire every person you meet, but your brain will naturally want to categorize them.
I think categorization is fine as long as you're open to adjusting it as needed based on new data. The alternative of treating everyone as a completely original snowflake is completely unworkable.
I miss the days of MSN Skyblog windows XP MTV ps2 Astra Satellite 90 and 2000 😢🔫
When the former fed Myron from fresh and got started parroting Rollos talking points I knew it was over
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It's best to not take any pills. All natural baby! 😎
The brown pill: for when you've taken every pill and want a clear out.
It makes you sh*t
The need to categorize humans is human nature or social construct? Hard to say.
social construct is human nature.
Human nature. This all predates social media and modern society.
@@QWERTY-gp8fd this transgender bs is also social construct and human nature by your logic?
If it was human nature then everyone would do it, but people who have any worldly experience, like traveling or simply interacting with lots of different people, all know that you shouldnt judge a book by its cover. The categorizing is a pathology, a coping mechanism for people who have lacked human interaction and worldly experience in their lives.
For children, that is acceptable, but they should be taught not to do that and have enough experience by the time they are adults.
But being permanently online hampers their ability to gain real world experience, and therefore the dogmatism and pathology has increased severely over the past 30 years.
Fragile worldviews perhaps. People have alot of defense mechanisms.
A lot of these systems of analyzing others, even the more scientific ones like psychology, are attempts to read other peoples minds. In reality, they end up being forms of mind control for everyone involved. Scandalizing other people so that they act a certain way, categorizing them, and forcing them into boxes so that they’re easier to beat. I used to be very far right wing, until I realized that the absurdity of my political opponents had robbed me of my empathy for my fellow citizens. It’s a lot easier to dismantle somebody’s arguments when they are wholly one version or another ideologue.
Psychology is a pseudo-science. 75% of studies published in psych journals cannot be replicated in independent trials. In other words, they just make stuff up. And then charge people $150 an hour for their bunk. If you need therapy, just go outside, play some sports, go for a walk, meditate, eat healthy food, get plenty of sleep, maybe go make some new friends or move to a new town or get a new job. You dont need anyone to tell you whats wrong with you. It doesnt matter anyway.
All in the name of progress....👍
Too many pills to deal with? Just take some sleeping pills 😂
As a species, we need to develop telepathy as soon as possible. Otherwise we're doomed to extinction due to misinterpretation of intentions...
Pleasure to listen your ideas are. Thanks.
My favorite gorilla on youtube.
I think the labels are a shorthand for understanding the baseline of where someone is coming from. I'm willing to engage with anyone willing to discuss reality but most of the time in every camp most people are stuck in their delusion, denying truth. So applying the label is GOOD -- it allows you to see that wasting time discussing anything of substance with such people is pointless and futile. I have many disagreements with people in my camp too and sometimes get to the point of futility there, but at least there's the color-pill of baseline understanding.
It's what used to be simply a shared sense of reality. People had different perspectives but we all shared a common reality. We DON'T ANYMORE. Now we use the pill terminology to know if a person is in the same REALITY we are. Because there's no point discussing reality with a creature from a completely different one.
just stop learning
Label to disable.
They are pernicious tools. Some common uses: thought stopping; communication disruption; painting the enemy.
What you have said has already been described by Houllebcq's Possibility Of An Island.
Not pillmaxxing? NGMI.
i don't think that's a specific internet problem, mass communication just amplifies it big time. it's our brains need to categorize everything and everyone and tribalism, which has also been massively amped up by nutty politics and the "culture war".
I hope your hand is improving SD. I had a pokie win of 500 bucks and thought of you when i won the Maxi on Bullrush. Got paypal now ontop of patreon. Ill bet that hand has even screwed up your gaming requirements. I have a new Cyberpunk leather jacket coming for poker tournaments so the boys are gonna love it.
Appreciate it. I have 2-3 weeks to mostly healed and then another 1-2 for complete back to normal healed.
Never stop gambling.
@@thinking-ape6483 when that cast comes off, if you have one, prepare for a smell. I remember that smell. Like 3 week old feet lol. At least you can come out of this with a useful left hand.
@@droppeddogs na I'm 8k down for machines in 12 months with 200 a week for fun. Ten minutes in between poker tournaments. And sometimes you win more than the poker tournament. Ten minutes at 50c a hit you can't loose more than 100 bucks. Two poker games a week. That is a steady amount. My friends drop 5k in 1 hour. Some months SD gets more than I lose on the machines. And I saved my brother's family too. A slap doesn't hurt if you are strong enough to walk away. :)
@@maxsimon36 all losses are TEMPORARY
Feels like we’re all just rediscovering what would be normal passed on wisdom.
That's a different problem. It's not having respect for someone on a different side. Or someones different opinion.
I don't think there are too many pills, they're just overused and applied too broadly. That being said, if I've determined that a person is indeed "blue pilled," I usually don't want to deal with that person beyond what is absolutely necessary. It depends on the issues and context of the discussion, but someone appropriately identified this way isn't generally worth the time and energy involved for a meaningful interaction.
I think in a broader context what you are running up against is the language / cultural barrier. Language is the very first and last invisible line of distinction between groups. Even those within the same country yet alone generation, social class, or country.
The key markers of hot button words are where the lines can be found. Each word is life a fence post in the line.
With the literal world "online" that is international. Traditional borders mean nothing. So the language one uses has taken on that role far more than it has in the past.
Astrology, dyed hair, tattoos, nose ring
Just no
Did you delete your video scorning Frieren?
Did he? And rightfully so
hey, can u do a video about curse of beign a short man ?
there’s no curse, internet is ruining your mind. Get a life
You are damned to be single and being not as much respected as taller man. Welcome to the club
You will forever be a jester who bribes for friendship and validation
@@meesteranonymous8177 not gonna happen, i stay single
@@bruhmomentchiwhy do you think he went on the internet in the first place?
He being here on a blackpill channel is the effect, not the cause.
@thinking-ape Q: excuse me sir, sorry to bother you, but do you know what has happened to our friend The Franklin (formerly known as Reactionary Expat)? I'm sure many of us wonder, & you two seem to have been in some contact if I recall. Thanks for any info you might be able to provide, & regards, G.M. o/
Astrology, yoga. Great to date..... the end.
another good video
There are far from enough pills for all the inkwells that start knocking on the door by the millions.
Stardusk is a Libra. How would I know that if astrology was all bunk?
How can i find the previous video about zoomers being more into internet culture
There the red pill, blue pill, purple pill in between, black pill, white pill, gray pill in between, and orange pill.
There's still room for yellow, green, pink, brown, teal, indigo, turquoise, magenta, gold, ...
My friend called me contrarian recently because I'm not far left and not far right
So being somewhat in the middle is being contrarian now guys
Pink Pill
Big brother wants to hurt us. Know your masters.
As a national socialist, the idea of people calling you a national socialist makes me laugh xD
My personal opinion:
Manosphere -->
Holy shit that has happened to me too. I thought that weird shit only happened to me 😂
The labeling in regard to politics is especially funny for me. If I talk about economics, Im a communist. If I talk about social issues, Im a conservative. If I talk about demographic changes, Im far right. If I talk about personal freedoms, Im a liberal. (in the classical sense) Does that seem right to you?
Everything can be perverted if you give it some time.
Can't escape the labels. Live outside the system.
Only way to truly escape it, is to go live with the animals.
Even if you move to a third world country, you still have customary believes to deal with, religions ect.
Really depends on what one can tolerate day to day.
I'm a hermit frankly.
To many caught in the loop of endless nonsense.
I'm even at the point now of buying old shows, movies and games before they got all..well, you know.
Getting to the point of perhaps letting go of the internet in large part also.
Only used for the absolute essentials.
Once the internet was where you went to escape life, now life is what you do to escape the internet.
@@lewishamilton9577poetic.
People seem to want have it both ways where they want to individualists and be unique as individuals but want the collectivism of identity and rigidly putting themselves and others in boxes. We can’t be radical individualists as we are part of the community and we need community and radically being too unique and being yourself has nasty consequences of looking creepy and therefore being shunned! However we seem to want both in an equally unhealthy destructive way! It will be interesting if America as the “world’s dominant superpower” can either resolve these absurdities or even survive it! It can’t continue with it!
It's a framework, people who can't acknowledge the limits of a model need to wake up.
I prefer the label of lawful neutral Hellknight 😂
I've often asked people to use their own words to describe their feelings and general worldview...because I've gotten tired of trying to follow entire discussions consisting of nothing but jargon ("Dude used to be cuckpilled 'til he got so totally simpcucked that he went mauvepill LULZ", etc.). Without question, this has been damaging to the discourse. Terminally online folks might as well be typing "twenty-three skidoo" for all the sense it makes to the casual observer who might otherwise want to join the discussion.
I used to use MBTI like this ngl
Class struggle. Needs classification.
The more abstract and obscure the better to focus on the smallest point of different.
Left right
National vs international socialist.
Colour pill revolution.
It all boils down to us against them.
These people also say they hate labels...
Women love astrology because it provider a shadow of spirituality, but without the moral and social requirements of religion. In other words, a cheap replacement for religion, with no actual responsibilities and sacrifices... kind of the equivalent of tasty food with no nutritional value.
It is what it is.
there is nothing we can do
Based
3:08 Yeah...no in this aspect, you're back-peddling. Because algorithm actually hates the term black pill and red pill. In fact, those channels are suppressed a lot, you yourself have claimed this. So using those terms would not be good for views.
So, either you've changed your mind, which isn't a bad thing and is in fact a very respectable thing to do, or you're pretending for some reason or something else is going on.
Now if you're claiming that you never claimed yourself to be a blackpilled, then it's different because you haven't as far as I can recall.