Forget EVERYTHING You Think You Know About HONING! These NEW Abrasives TRANSFORMED Our OLD Hone...

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2023
  • Just because you have an "old school" hone doesn't mean you're stuck with "old school" cylinder bore finishes. These new abrasives (especially the special deburring abrasive), can produce an incredible modern finish even on an old school Sunned CV-616, and it can do it all in less than .001 of an inch.
    Forget about the old method of using conventional abrasives and taking out .001 to .0015 to finish. This process along with these abrasives allows for less stock removal and creates a longer lasting finish.
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Комментарии • 67

  • @scottwilliams5196
    @scottwilliams5196 7 месяцев назад +15

    Excellent info, thank you! Still waiting for the honing tips for my harbor freight drill!😉

  • @billshiff2060
    @billshiff2060 7 месяцев назад +12

    I started that plateau honing back in 1982 in pro stock. This is a good refinement.

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks!

    • @kuyaearly143
      @kuyaearly143 7 месяцев назад +3

      so your old af 😆

    • @billshiff2060
      @billshiff2060 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@kuyaearly143 Yeah, I was building Pro stock engines before you were a brown stain on the mattress.

  • @hotrodray6802
    @hotrodray6802 5 месяцев назад +2

    The diamond two step and then bottle brush is definitely worth power.
    The first spec sbc 355 engine @500 hp we did 24 yrs ago we gained 8 hp. The second was up 11.
    Be sure to use the correct rings for this finish.👍👍

  • @Rattdogg4q2
    @Rattdogg4q2 7 месяцев назад +2

    There's a lot of Power and Longevity when you get your hone right....good stuff

  • @LOUIS-fp3bv
    @LOUIS-fp3bv 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lake Speed Jr, I grew up by Deer Valley Airport. Total Seal Deer Valley Airport. Used to be owned Deer Valley Airport by Art Linkletter.

  • @JAMSIONLINE
    @JAMSIONLINE 7 месяцев назад +5

    Great info. Are y'all able to supply the ordering numbers for the abrasives used in the video?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +5

      Yes, contact the Total Seal office and tell them you want the abrasive kit. We have different ones for the different hone machines.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 7 месяцев назад

      Ey good to see you here! I would LOVE to see a collab!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 7 месяцев назад

      @@TotalSeal Make sure you check these guys out. You could make some awesome videos together.

  • @damicoengineslimited8861
    @damicoengineslimited8861 4 месяца назад +1

    Great news! Thanks again Lake for providing us with facts we can work with 😊

  • @bobirving6052
    @bobirving6052 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great info. Keep that engine alive!

  • @jayroese4413
    @jayroese4413 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great channels. I am in need of an education on honing and rings for alcohol engines. Input on oil needs and maintenence will help greatly. I am financing an Oswego super modified this coming year. Might make a couple of good shows.

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! Call the tech department at 623-587-7400 for tech support.

  • @TheWoodButcher86
    @TheWoodButcher86 6 месяцев назад +1

    What if you guys did an oil test simulating a leaky engine. How adding oil, say simulating and engine that leaks a quart every 2 weeks or so, changes the oil sample analysis or if it changes your oil change interval a little bit. And maybe how it could chamhe the life of the already existing oil or decrease power and increase wear. I dont know, just a thought.

  • @bigal878
    @bigal878 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great video 👍🇦🇺

  • @randysrestoration
    @randysrestoration 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good Stuff as Usual~

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  6 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you think so!

  • @sdc0386
    @sdc0386 7 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice👍

  • @mikemal2595
    @mikemal2595 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey this might not pertain to this particular video, but I own a 2023 Dodge Ram Big Horn 5.7 V8 So the only oil you did not test Redline synthetic oil. And would you recommend ,Techron fuel system additive to help clean engine. Keep up the good work. Your knowledge and how you explain things to us as the viewers. It's outstanding.Thanks.

  • @rayowens4355
    @rayowens4355 7 месяцев назад +5

    Fot the initial rough-in hone, is the diamond pads required? Will a similar grit standard stone yield similar results?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +5

      The Diamonds are required for this process.

  • @roostingthe6520
    @roostingthe6520 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm assuming that was a stock block to get the rvk that high with 170.

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +2

      World products block.

  • @c.hibdon1628
    @c.hibdon1628 7 месяцев назад +2

    I can smell that MAN-845 oil!

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад

      LOL

    • @deadsimpleband6922
      @deadsimpleband6922 7 месяцев назад

      Try VALONA 2150 S and you'll never regret it, no smell, and very mild on the hands.

  • @syman9556
    @syman9556 6 месяцев назад

    Can you tell me what the ring end gap will be with this ring kit with a fresh 4.030 bore ? CR3690GP 30. Thanks!

  • @michaelfarrell6448
    @michaelfarrell6448 7 месяцев назад +3

    Why do my machines squeal when honing . Same machine same abrasives different fluid

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +3

      Different fluids have differing levels of lubricity.

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +3

      Quaker Cut 004PE works great with Diamonds.

  • @jrobpat0154
    @jrobpat0154 7 месяцев назад +2

    Why put a head gasket between the block and the torque plate ?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +1

      It changes how the clamping load is distributed, so it is important for getting it 100% right.

    • @jrobpat0154
      @jrobpat0154 7 месяцев назад

      @@TotalSeal Presumably you could use an on old, used one to save money

  • @clarkmcmahan1595
    @clarkmcmahan1595 7 месяцев назад +2

    Is that man=845 they are using ?

  • @jayoheyo9750
    @jayoheyo9750 5 месяцев назад

    i'd like to know where i can get those stones for a ck/cv sunnen..

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  5 месяцев назад

      Call our tech department 623-587-7400

  • @05LS2
    @05LS2 2 месяца назад

    How many strokes and load for the deburring abrasives?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  2 месяца назад +1

      5 strokes at 25% load

  • @JoseRodriguez-fy9so
    @JoseRodriguez-fy9so 4 месяца назад

    can you help us where to purchase those exactly stones? for my cylinder king CV616 sunnen

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  4 месяца назад

      Contact Tennessee Abrasives.

  • @Parker211Racing
    @Parker211Racing 4 месяца назад

    Are these honing jobs and tips being done on steel cylinders or a nikasil coated type of cylinders? I ask because most of my engines are coated cylinders and wanted to know if you would use the same process

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  3 месяца назад

      These are for cast iron liners and blocks. Nikasil is a different beast.

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 6 месяцев назад +1

    Lake,
    If we're using a Sunnen GHSS head, what are the correct part numbers for the three abrasives? No one at PRI that I was able to talk to could tell me anything about that third abrasive. They mentioned some sort of Scotch Brite in the seminar at Rottler.
    Sorry I missed you at PRI, but you were busy every time I saw you, and I hate to be rude and hang around like a vulture. I spoke with Keith and Ed briefly.
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, buddy!

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  6 месяцев назад +1

      Alan, call Kenny Harris at Tennessee Abrasives. Tell him you want the Total Seal Diamond, CBN, Scotch Brite kit.

  • @donwasse7892
    @donwasse7892 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a stone set for the handheld guys out here? Say the Lisle 15000 cylinder hone?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад

      Nope, the handheld hones don’t have enough power for the diamonds.

    • @donwasse7892
      @donwasse7892 7 месяцев назад

      @@TotalSeal I don't understand. The hone itself has no power, it's the drill you connect to it that powers it. 120 grit is nothing for even a modern cordless drill.
      What am I missing in order to understand why this setup would not work fine? Sure, a machine shop would be better, but plenty of areas around the country don't have competent machine shops or wait times are 6 months +. Let alone finding one that can do this process.
      I was thinking about it, hand honed block in combination with Total Seal - Total Conform rings seems like a match made perfect for all us diy. I would love to use the 1mm 1mm 2mm or thinner ring sets you've talked so much about and grab an extra 20ish? torque/horsepower.

    • @deadsimpleband6922
      @deadsimpleband6922 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@donwasse7892 The CV and CK have 2 HP and have been said to be borderline for diamonds. A hand held drill/hone at 2 HP would be quite a challenge for even the strongest of guys.

    • @donwasse7892
      @donwasse7892 7 месяцев назад

      @@deadsimpleband6922 that makes sense. Thank you for the information.

  • @clevo351
    @clevo351 7 месяцев назад

    Is this hone for steel rings or moly rings? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад

      It works for both!

  • @hornet340
    @hornet340 7 месяцев назад +2

    77 Rvk? Methanol?

    • @TotalSeal
      @TotalSeal  7 месяцев назад +1

      75 to 85 Rvk is perfect for methanol.

  • @danielmauter1737
    @danielmauter1737 7 месяцев назад +8

    Boy??.. that's the worst background music I every heard on any automotive tic.