WHY do I pay Adobe $10K a YEAR!?
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This dudes paying for all our pirated software
yes coz stealing is not good.. no matter adobe is sucking money from people.
He has to otherwise he will get screwed
@@akasks7 Fuck that. These people rob people yearly. Support consumer friendly, smaller businesses. Fuck these corporate assholes.
Fire
The problem with pirating software is that you are signaling to the monopoly that produces it "this heap of shit is valuable enough that people want to steal it". While I disagree with equating the act of copying to the act of stealing, a monopoly sees it that way, and would rather you "steal" their stuff instead of pay for competing stuff.
They like to tell you otherwise, but piracy benefits a company just as much as legal sales because it means you aren't supporting their enemy.
Next episode: "Why does Linus pirate Adobe software?"
Next episode: "Why do i sit in jail?"
@@thepolticalone961 looooooooooool
I wonder how much people pirate premier
Next episode: coffin dance of Linus
@@thepolticalone961 It is possible. I know that from a friend of course ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Adobe : "If everyone else jumps off a bridge, will you do it?"
The creative industry : "....Yeah........"
The familiar saying of the ages.
i always wondered what adobe bridge was for
"Don't be silly Adobe, nobody uses Bridge"
Oh yeah
It’s all fun and games until you’ve got a hard deadline for a video project in 12 hours and some idiot sends you a project in an unsupported format from his cheap editing software... if I’m about to lose a thousands of dollars because some idiot didn’t want to pay $56 a month for the base package of the entire creative suite you can bet someone’s head will roll and I’m going to warn all my creative buddies so they don’t get put in the same situation.
Pirates: look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
lol XDD im dying!
So in other words the douches who make it so expensive for ppl like Linus....
@@ScoobyShotU it will always be expensive, Adobe’s borderline vampiric business practices make sure of that
@@ScoobyShotU You literally just made that up, all studies have shown pirating is actually good for the industry because people who can pay do end up doing so for the ease of use compared to piracy.
@@frostjune6072 even Gabe Newell agrees piracy is good for the industry
"the only problem is that you need to throw more gpu at it" As if THAT has ever been a problem at LTT...
Well, to be fair, he said "throw". Now, if it was "dropping" GPUs at the problem. Boy, let me tell you...
If I had a nickel for every time they've probably said "go grab that spare Titan we've got lying around" over there....
@@ThorsShadow true
I don’t know if nvidia would send any more over after the last project
@@TheRogueWolf I'd have a titan...
This is why I’m cheering for companies like Affinity. Great software, normal prices.
Me to. I love Affinity to death. If I was a billionaire, I'd buy it once a day, and 'accidentally' lose my product key each night.
Same here. Affinity, Resolve and open-source FTW
Same. And Procreate has to be mentioned as well. So many illustrators and digital painters have completely abandoned Adobe just to use Procreate on an iPad that supports the Apple pencil. That software is straight-up awesome - and it's $10. Not a month, but a one time charge. And they've never charged for an update. After almost a decade, Adobe still hasn't seriously challenged that App despite tons of releases for iOS. They've gotten so lazy in the last few years, with very little innovation with the creative suite.
@@MarioMatosYT Yeah, I am using the same combo. Affinity Photo and Rawtherapee (foss raw editor) are a beastly combo. Used in conjunction, there is so much power to be had.
My school covers for Adobe and I also bought the Affinity suite. I like to switch between them, graphics design mainly on Illustrator, photos hoping and stuff in Affinity Photo.
Reason #1 to stick with Adobe: Taran won't have to spend 3 months rewriting all the macros
hahahaha
Taran has stated that he's willing to switch to DV resolve years ago. I think back when it was DV 12 or 13?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
$10k für 3 month rewriting macros... Not the best salary in the world, but definitely not bad.
Would pay for itself the second year...
Maybe surprising: but that is not an uncommon reason for companies to stick with software that is old/costs more/has better alternatives. I saw companies who are stuck to old products because the cost to transfer all there customizing/additons/macros/knowhow to new/better applications are too high. It's quiet a big pain point for them. Sometimes they pay big money to the manufacturer when product are end-of-life and they still need support/patches.
This is where I wish more video producers come together and sponsor open source projects so that eventually, Adobe _can_ be pitched to the curb. If the file support and features meet enough parity, it might gain them more potential in the long run
So producers should gather to support the alternatives so adobes products will improve or get cheaper and then what? everbody going back to adobe? the real problem imho is that most people are too lazy to use something the mainstream isn't using and that even schools use software nobody can afford in his first year of work.
It has been done with 3d animation (Blender), Im surprised it isn't being done with video software.
I thought the same
A lot of editing / color / conforming / mastering facilities are moving to Resolve every day. Fusion is not quite there yet tough.
@@nonamedpleb Blender can do video, post production I think but it's a start. 🙂
“We use windows movie maker”- Edzel Yago 2016
The OGs would have remembered
Yeah I remember this
Can someone r/wooooosh me?
@@nomask456 r/wooooosh?
Shoot WMM USED TO BE GOOD then they made it crap...
Too bad Movie Maker is no longer updated. This is a great editor for young students.
"Before the dark times, before software as a service."
Truely the dark times.
Lol
"As A Service" is a plague, I work in the industry and I hate it.
I'm sincere with those Holy Americans that also paid 10k a year for a piece of buggy software. Why license a software like a driving license. Bruh.
i will never pay for software (except video games i’m fine with that)
Now we have video games "as a service" as well.
Everything went wrong when they discontinued Windows movie maker.
@@legendarygaming2862 everything
FAX!!!
@@rano12321 right click on a video file "edit in photos". WhAaaa
hengineer lmao
@@rano12321 thats not movie maker, thats something else
We do $250K+ p/a worth of video work with solely Resolve and a single $10K PC.
Adobe is better in some areas, worse in others, ditching Adobe for Resolve isn't an issue and I hope more people do it constantly because subscription services is a bad future for creators.
I agree... I switched to Resolve the day I got my BMPCC6K. It was a bit difficult at the start but I am happy now. Left photojournalism to start a small production house, struggled a lot due to the pandemic, but things are much better now. But yes, subscription is such a bad idea. And we have two PCs :)
Yeah individual apps probably aren't as bad but Adobe does seem to have a whole suite that integrates very well
Im using final cut
Do what I do and just use MS paint
bruh cs ghost ilove your stuff, weird to see you here lol
Hello ?
@@alexRodriguez-mp4dp hi
@@CSGhostAnimation how are you still not verified
@Husk i do : )
Adobe: So this means we can charge more and everyone will still use us?
They literally did that test last year. Just doubled the monthly cost of Lightroom and Photoshop plans out of nowhere. Guess what, these cost more now. Deal with it.
@@JanPospisilArt "it's the 2020 version that costs more" - "so can I keep using the 2019 version?" - "No."
@@liquidminds Yeah.
I'm still using my old boxed PS CS4, though less and less often.
Krita and other free software really does all I need from PS.
@@JanPospisilArt GIMP: notice me senpai!
@@JanPospisilArt CC 2020 and 21 do have a couple of really cool automation-tools. I can't say that Adobe sucks or that I don't miss those, but it's just not worth the price-tag.
I'd pay 60 bucks for that software. Once. Not each month...
Reason to pay Adobe:
Job requirements
When your best reason to feed a monster is "its quasi mandatory due to being an industry standard that no one else can implement due to the monster owning the patent rights" then you know something has gone terribly, terribly wrong with the world.
jameswalker199 That is so true. I Felt the same way too.
@@dafoex buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Then you know something is wrong with the world.
Just say you can use adobe but use other software to do it. if it's an office work, then it should be your company who pay for it, not you.
Seriously. I’m a freelancer and people only want projects delivered as Adobe files (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign). I usually use bootleg versions but had to cave recently and get a subscription bc the bootleg versions weren’t functioning right for whatever reason.
More businesses/companies should be open to using alternatives
One problem I had with Vegas, they took away the Disable Resample button in something like the non pro version. So I went back to my older version because they have it in there. I was shocked that they'd take that away especially when it makes your video look interlaced/artifacts when you press pause on a progessive video
for me, it's having version 14 and they disabled GPU acceleration on older versions
That's weird because I have "Disable resample" option in a drop-down menu in the Project Properties window. I'm using Vegas Edit 20.
They didnt remove it. They just made it hella harder to find. I dont see why they dont just remove the feature as a whole. There was a whole wave of RUclips back in the day where you would literally be able to tell that someone used Vegas because of it.
To me it's just amazing that da vinci has a free version
I’m happy a watched this because I was looking for a good video editing software to stitch together the animation I’m making in CSP so it can have a title and transition effects. DaVinci free is perfect for that and also can add audio... but this is all a new experience because I never did animation before and probably should of planned it all out more.
@@brianworden7022 ok
Da vinki⁉️
It’s so slow though
@@fernandocamarillo3710 resolve relies more on gpu than the adobe suite. What are your specs?
Imagine Taran having to reprogram all 500 macros he has to use a new editing software. That would probably already cost 10K in work hours :D
Hopefully only once though... =)
@@jubuttib until this program becomes a service too
@@vortexplays4946 DaVinci is open source
@@AlfaRomeoQ and their sick color grader thingy
@@shivangswain Are you sure about that, I don't believe that is true..... I will Check for myself and update this comment accordingly.
Update:
No, it is not Open-Source, as I had originally suspected.
For more information see the brief summary on the Wikipedia page found here:
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/DaVinci_Resolve
10k a year, we should all give respect for our brothers russian for making it for free xD
LOL!!!
Damn true
I don't understand .
Can u explain?
@@dineshdas8392 cracked ones
My VM without networking goes brrrrrrrr
Just a heads up, we switched to resolve at my studio and found ourselves more effective than in adobe^^ Teamwork is easier if you use a server and database, training and collab is easier with the common workflow and one of the reasons we switched is that Dynamic Link itself would frequently fail on us. You need to really commit and understand a different NLE to also see how janky Premiere is from the outside. We saved so many hours in technical bullshit by switching it's unreal. Most important thing is that you get the work done though, regardless of the software. I think that 90% estimate will vary wildly from person to person though :)
Soooo unless you’re making money off your content, you’re saying everyone else should pirate photoshop like they always have? Gotcha.
Exactly
Wouldn't be surprised if antiprivacy software is the reason it crashes so often.
Or you can get gimp
@ It is, although I don't think they know that. I'd bet Photoshop was one of the most pirated software back in the days of Photoshop 6, so everybody got familiar with it and then later bought it as they became professionals.
Doesn't he mean the other way around. If you are in a high production team it is too expensive to switch, but if you are alone and can spent the time it'll save you money?
Adobe CS6: own it forever
Adobe CC: pay it forever
i own a cracked copy so. no thanks
@@anthonyd2715 "I own a cracked copy".
Now there's a perfect oxymoron for you :p
the other side:
Adobe CS6: 3k+ barrier of entry for starting professionals
Adobe CC: 50 or less a month
@@jmiller007 It is the only way to truly own it these days.
@@anthonyd2715 same 😂
YAY WE HAVE THE INTRO!!
That was so cool
Congrats! It's a beautiful intro
one of the best so far in my opinion
I dont like it, it's like those cringy 3d text spinning intros 5 year olds use with loud dubstep music on their videos.
EasySneezy 123 your opinion is vastly in the minority
When I heard Abode was switching to the Creative Cloud model I went straight to my campus's tech store and purchased the CS6 Master Collection with my student discount AND it happened to be on sale since they were liquidating all of their CS6 stuff. I am still using all it for editing to this day for 10 years now.
I’m so jealous of this lmao
Lucky you, I did the same thing Yea, but greedy Adobe cut my paid over $500 CS6 suite off, even stopping the actual disk loading. They ask me to locate the seller, knowing it's hard to locate out-of-business resellers with who Adobe at the time DID register my software from the seller back then. Some were blaming Windows 10 later finding out it was Adobe that wants everyone to get on the CC paid subscription, especially after Adobe went public stock market made them unreasonably aggressive. Adobe doesn't care about making enemies, only $$$ money. Actually, they did me a favor because it forced me to try and learn other programs like free DaVinci resolve that I eventually paid for the Studio version and perpetual easier up-to-date Ai programs like Filmora, Affinity Photo, ''Luminar Neo from Ukraine'', inPixo, and a host of others. These programs may not have longevity user support established like Adobe Ps, AE, and Pr yet, but I'm very satisfied deleted all that I can with Adobe's name off of my computer, and encouraged as many as I can to do the same, and will never ever look back, use or buy Adobe again. Sorry for the rant but Adobe got me F*Cked up.
Blender Guru: I only need one Software and it is free
Leo Mühring is it for video editing?
@@johnnylambda6043 yeah you can video edit in blender
I dream of the day everyone edits video in Blender
And getting into it is so ridiculously hard that training your employees with it is gonna be very expensive.
He and his team at Poligon actually use Affinity Photo, that's $50.
That hiss legit scared me more than it should have.
Yeah just like Bilbo in LotR when I was a kid
Martijn Kraakman This is exactly what it reminded me of.
Cmon Linus just pirate it like the rest of us!
*this is a joke don't sue me Adobe*
Adobe won't be doing anything to you. It's the Russian and Chinese government you'll have to deal with from that cracked exe file you used. Best of luck!
Theo haha yeah ... a joke ... *slurping noises*
@@Deathwolf01 Yeah that makes no sense
@@nathansstuff1547 yes it does
@@vxkid1.5 no, it doesn't, Russian and Chinese government will distribute spy tools for content creator in pirate software? Even if was true he is talking like no any other governt do that, and they don't definitely will do it in that such low efficient way.
Have you calculated how much time your editors spend waiting for Adobe stuff to restart after crashes though?
And the time to recreate project if there was, for example, 5 min gap between autosave and Adobe crashed.
Death to Adobe and software as a service! Before, they had to create compelling updates to persuade users to buy them, now they just coast along because the user doesn’t have a choice.
Pretty much all subscription service based softwares are like that and more and more software are turning into that path. The major players like microsoft is doing that on what they call office 365, subscription base + requires cloud.
@@441meatloaf And thus the market leaves room for new players to crop up and take over, like Affinity and Procreate (perhaps not video yet, as this video shows).
@@eobet Exactly! the free market solves all things. Eventually people will tire of Adobe and their practices, and others will take it's place....or not lol. It's the consumer that ultimately has the power...people tend to forget that. Support companies you want to see succeed by buying their products. That's the best way to ensure you end up with what you want.
Or as the Free Software Foundation calls it "Service as a Software Substitute".
Or *obtain* Premiere pro CS6 and use that.
Linus son: dad tell me a bed time story!
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lmao
Bruh😂
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The real question is, what tf does adobe do with the money? Cause lord knows they don't use it to develop software anymore
if they have shareholders it is very likely they get first cut of the pie, and with a big knife.
@@Invaderzim2004 they are $400 a share
i mean they have to bathe in something, right?
@@MYCUNNYsob wipe their ass with, more like
@@hardlyhome314 price of shares doesn’t matter, it’s the sum of all the shares that matter. If Amazon has 10 shares at $100 per share they’re worth $1000 as a company and if adobe has 2 shares at $400 a share adobe is worth $800 as a company, so the stock price itself is deceptive.
It was also hard for the drivers of the first cars to collaborate with horsemen. Switch to Resolve and get out of the Dark Ages, dude…
10:06 "Taran, we need some footage where you crash Premiere Pro"
Taran: "No problem, got a macro for that"
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually had one. It would be a good stress reliever imo
just gave up... it not like we can not survive with out linus channel... he dig the problem for themselves mading long wing video while we just don't want to watch that long... we just want a info not start a new country...
Was machst du denn hier?
@@brickplayzyt6195 Mich für Adobe Alternativen interessieren. 👋
@@campkira you hit the blunt too hard son...
Shoutout to people who use adobe cracked versions..
So, almost everyone who uses Adobe?
@@wta1518 don't know, but me definitely.
@@techvishnuyt Adobe CC is the most pirated software
I use Windows Movie Maker 😂😂😂😂
@@wta1518 yup..you are right
"A little bit old school"
Me: *laughs in pirated vegas pro 13*
Vegas Pro 9 I think it was and then these fancy kids with their "After Effects" came along
@@hellowill after effects doesnt really look that different just vegas with a dark mode, also ae is just really for certain effects premiere is more for lengthy videos
Sameeee
Same here at home i am also using Vegas 13, its funny because at my workplace i have full adobe software pack but pc is crap so i cant edit videos with iGpu, i have Photoshop, Premiere, Audition, After Effects, Illustrator and pretty much legal every adobe app
Yeah,i'm using pirated vegas pro 13 too
The way i see it, Adobe is like Apple when it comes to integration across devices (in this case purely software) and they're well known and usually amongst the first you hear about as a new artist , videographer, photographer etc. I first learned about and used Adobe in Highschool, it was essentially my gateway into these types of programs so i just stuck with it. I got used to it, they've got the same features as the competition more or less and most people don't really care to switch or even look into alternatives. So you kinda just get stuck paying with whatever subscription Adobe throws at you because you kind of don't have a choice.
Here's my problem with Adobe. I get it, software isn't cheap to maintain and constantly update. You need some sort of constant revenue stream this day in age. Although i don't use the complete Adobe suite to it's fullest extent, i just find that Adobe spends unnecessary amounts of time trying to implement features we don't need or will never use or just completely add additional software that causes you more headaches than it should. (like the example about prelude linus mentioned) instead of focusing on areas where people could benefit from. Like overall performance optimizations and just straight up making their damn subscriptions more flexible for everyone.
Here's my issue with their subscriptions. A. i'm paying for shit i don't even need. and B. i can't even use my subscription on all of my PC's because I'm gated by the amount of active subscriptions i can have at any point in time. It isn't uncommon for people to use and work from several computers at a time. in my use case, i have my office pc, home pc and laptop when i need to work on the go. For a while i was stuck with having to unlink my subscription on 1/2 of the PC's currently not being used to be able to use it on the 3rd and it was just a constant cycle of shuffling around my linked pc's in order to use adobe on more than 2 machines. So, i contacted adobe about it. Figured they'd be able to help me out. NOPE. They basically told me to go fuck myself and buy another subscription if i needed it on more than 2 computers.
So after paying for adobe for years, spending WELL over what they used to charge to buy the programs. this is how customers are treated? They're told they need to buy the sub twice if they want it on several machines?. It just doesn't make sense. I'd wager that's exactly the reason why Linus is paying 10k a year because he's forced to pay for the same sub several times over because adobe refuses to make any sort of compromises. I'd also wager they'd increase revenue and reduce the amount of people pirating if they re-worked their subscription model because as of right now, it's a complete joke.
Haven't these nerds heard of windows movie maker? Like it literally comes with the computer.
not anymore, support and downloads were discontinued.
@@ChrisOReilly I think I hate Microsoft.
lmao windows movie maker
TheMusicalKnokcers you’ve got something against the best video editing software ever made?
Raven Try Olive or Shotcut. You'll thank me later :^)
Not gonna lie - for people like me who are a one man small RUclips-Channel - Davinci Resolve is nothing short of amazing!
PixelSheep
Im with you there! I love Resolve 15 and probably need to update soon. Idk what version they're on now.
Came here to say this.
@de_Ultimate Hell to the yeah! That and HitFilm's mini DLC based expansions is also very nice. In the end, I use Davinci, but Hitfilm is my backup plan.
Handystrahlung ist Ungefährlich
@de_Ultimate Best way I can describe it: Davinci is more like Premiere than Hitfilm is (to the point there is a profile containing all the same shortcuts). I do like Hitfilm's pricing model ($250 all out vs $5-$20 for what parts you actually need), which is why I still give it a lot of credit.
*Therapist: “scary nightmare Linus doesn’t exist, you don’t have to worry*
*Scary nightmare Linus: **0:29*
Therapist: “Bilbo Linus doesn’t exist, you don’t have to worry."
*Bilbo Linus: **0:29*
@@breakies LOL
@@breakies Linus Baggins would also be acceptable
thats not scary linus. scary linus would be like something where he is forced to watch all his drops. for eternity.
LMAO 😂
The amount of work you guys put in every 10 seconds of this video is just blowing my mind.. im just speechless.. i feel like "good job" is too small of a saying for what you have done
Adobe: I'm the industry standard
Windows movie maker: hold my beer
🤣🤣🤣
iMovie: You dare challenge me mortal?
Finalcut lifetime ₹17k
I'm gonna be honest, I had to search for hours to learn how to get Movie Maker installed on my computer for editing together videos.
Lololol
Me who uses pirated version of Adobe : interesting
Mr. ThundeR ok
Me too and probably half of all Adobe suite users lol
😎 it do be like that
Wait there’s a paid option for Adobe CC?
*knock-knock* ADOBE, OPEN UP!
Adobe Rep: So what you're saying is we could quadruple our fee and you'd still just be ahead ... great, the bill is in the mail.
Nah, that might actually cross the line and then it would be cheaper to hire extra editor. Or outsource editing abroad
Actually as someone who uses Davinci Resolve, you don't necessarily have to get the paid version. The main advantage that you get with the paid version is support for high fps export and some unique effects. Even if you don't buy it, there really isn't any lack of features. Plus some of the paid features do end up coming to the free version with updates. Plus it's very good even on low end devices. I started editing on my laptop with an 11th gen i3 and just 8 gigs of ram, and Davinci still ran pretty well
For a professional workflow you definitely need the paid version.
I learned to edit on davinci and I would recommend everyone use it
@Mariam Limpao shotcut is best basic you can do alot of things in shotcut such as colour grading, speeding clips , chroma key, i think you can't do speed ramping , but you can creat key frames, on the vfx side there is natron which also completely free and will do almost anything that after effects does and it is node based and the ui is like nuke.
@@WajidKhan-gn3hj my current setup is resolve, gimp, and blender gets me everything I need done fine and is powerful enough and easy to learn
Resolve is so much better than premiere. There is a learning curve for sure but it is much more powerful than premiere alone .
@@Convolva resolve is far far better than premire.
@@MysticApertureStudios let us talk CISC,.. especially for sound editing. Intel is still king over AMD unfortunately. 😷
"... that is why you should check out our sponsor: Adobe... Wait, what?"
Shoutout to the guy who subtitled the sponsor segway with "Raid: Shadow Legends" copypasta
and how about easteregg subtitles at 12:19 ?
You know, unless you're deaf and actually need the subtitles
Its literally just a wall of text when the ad spot rolled. Probably the first time I consciously let the ad play
Segue
@Ollie Saer to watch LTT ads*
Imagine if just a fraction of the money spent on Adobe, was spent instead on developing GIMP.
the GIMP team should take a page from Krita's book and crowdfund big improvements.
GIMP is painfully underrated
@@moderndaydreammm you mean painful to use. It just don't work like I want to or like RUclips Videos say it would do, even if I do exactly the same.
@@adrenaliner91 >It just don't work like I want to or like RUclips Videos say it would do, even if I do exactly the same.
That's when you have to use something inside your skull some people call a brain
@@hymnes-orphiques roasting mofo's lol
I have been editing in Premiere for like ten years, and been a Creative Cloud subscriber for at least seven. I finally got tired of dealing with Premiere's bugginess and switched to DaVinci Resolve. My editing speed went up, and the number of crashes I dealt with almost vanished entirely. When comparing two larger projects, the last one that I did in Premiere and the first one that I did in DaVinci Resolve, I had a total of seven crashes from Premiere, two of which corrupted the save file, resulting in lost work. DaVinci crashed only twice, and both times I was back up and running in a few seconds. That was over a year ago, and I still have never had a save file corrupted by DaVinci.
Unfortunately, my attempts to replace Photoshop with GIMP were...amazingly frustrating. But at least I'm only giving Adobe 9.99 a month now, instead of 59.99.
I think alternatives from expensive programs are coming up these coming years. Affinity suite is a good alternative. Not perfect (not as big as adobe) but close ot it, with great devs that update a lot. No crash/lag using it. Wich photoshop have ALL the damn time.
DV Resolve is clearly one of the best out there. It's even used all the time in the movie industry for color grading.
@@Ssecave yah i was gonna say that too affinity is really good
As a GIMP user, I understand not using it, ever, for anything, if you can avoid it.
@@okiterukagetsu I went over and took a look at Affinity, and the pricing and feature set is definitely tempting me away from Photoshop. I might have to pick it up and use it in my next video and see how well it works. Fortunately I am not a PS power user, I mostly use it for cleaning up example photos, occasionally doing some light asset animation, and basic graphics to illustrate videos.
@@usp211816 I have tried repeatedly over the years to switch to Gimp and the interface and tools always trip me up. They are juuuuust close enough to PS to be confusing and non-intuitive to me.
11:47
Adobe: Huh, so it seems we should raise our prices by 4x?
Aw hell.
they did fo rme, I started with $20 a month and now i am paying $60 a month for the same license type. I am in NZ they used currency exchange rates as an excuse.
@@MelbourneArchviz You sure that you didn't have like a student license? The student license is 20$/month for a year, then it goes up to 60$/month.
@@Emanouche Fair point and it might have been part of the problem, but it raises to 30$ not 60$.
Maybe for LTT 'special subscription' option.
"the size of their app library" .. "the number of ways they've segmented their programs so that you can pay for individual features"
If you pay for 3 apps, that's a higher cost than having all of them with the suite. So it doesn't really matter how segmented it is, the price is the same for someone like Linus.
@@kaldo_kaldo no matter WHO gets fucked by shitty business practices like this, I am against it. This "service" crap they push is immoral
@@kaldo_kaldo ok but what if i need only one program? I should get an option to buy only one.
@@mdzaid5925 i think you can subscribe for just 1 app
But not *Buy* sadly
Adobe: You could not live with your own failure, where did that bring you, *back to me*
To thanos
Affinity Photo has full PSD export now, and the integration between Photo, Designer, and Publisher is improving with every update. Adobe's days are numbered.
Adobe unlike every other alternative; has every kind of software a content creator can desire and they are integrated very well. Affinity on the other hand is no where as close
@@kym.7689 Well, I'll take a slightly smaller feature set in return for not having to pay a subscription fee forever.
That "Slightly" is soo far from the reality
If you want just PS AI IND only then you have to get the full all programs bundle because otherwise you'd be paying about 60 bucks monthly opposed to 53 bucks iirc.
While if you buy Affinity's PS AI IND alternatives then you pay once 50 bucks full price a program (disregarding the discounts that happen usually up to 50%, I got mine 35 bucks a program) with free updates until the app reaches version 2.0 or 3.0 and even then you can still use your version forever.
I don't know how that can be considered a bad deal no matter how you look at it, from a graphic designer's perspective Affinity is a blessing.
narrator: "they weren't"
Honestly: "We tried making a video using Blender Video Sequence Editor, ffmpeg and GIMP" would be an interesting video to watch, as well as to see the editors reaction while using it 🤣, have Luke or Taran to learn Python to "expand" Blender/GIMP functionality/automation ;)
It would be cool to see a version of this "challenge" with only Open Source software.
that would be easy Photoshop -> Gimp, Illustratrator -> Inkscape, Lighroom -> Rawtherapee/Darktable, Animate -> Blender/Krita, After Effects -> Natron, Premiere Pro -> Kdenlive/Olive
Dominik Valeček yes olive is the best!
@@INMARtv No, Olive will be the best but for now its Kdenlive because Olive is still alpha and Kdenlive has better tools for now. But I believe that Olive beat Kdenlive soon.
@@dominikvalecek Kdenlive does not have GPU acceleration on Windows, only Linux.
@@dominikvalecek what about CAD? Opponent worth of AutoCad or Draftsight?
Dang, Taran would have freaked out because his hotkeys would no longer work with DaVinci Resolve.
hahahahahaha!
took him a while to set those up
Taran is the reason they would never change software package, even to a better solution.
He has list of feature requests and bugs yet to be fixed for Adobe Premiere Pro.
@@akyhne Unfortunately, you're right. Affinity is just sooooo much better than Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. As for Davinci Resolve: I've almost never used Premiere Pro but when I did, I didn't feel at home. Davinci is so easy to learn. And I've never heard of someone regretting the change to Resolve. And I haven't heard of anyone wanting to switch away from Resolve
the ending is a bit sad, that so many people are stuck paying to this big company and not being able to be agile and move to other software for a better price
Apple...and the socalled ios ecosystem
Sept linus. He has enough money trust me.
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TheBigOne
Because they are pussies!
I mean you could get adobe products for free if you sail the sea if you know what I mean 😏
He makes a good point. Everybody uses it and nobody wants to deal with some snowflake file type. There's a reason why publishers for example mostly only accept txt, rtf or doc (not even docx) and print companies only DVI or PDF (and mostly DVI). Suck it up or don't get your product out.
I know that a few bigger financial companies still use tech from the 80s. Upgrading that tech costs money, you loose money because of the downtimes and then you still don't know if it's going to work, which potentially costs even more money. Therefore they keep the old tech running up until the last possible moment.
The whole industry works like that, it always has been. Private people, aka those who watch this channel, are not the intended market for companies like Adobe.
Another example: A big industrial player in Germany (can't disclose who) just placed an order at a small company I know. Price? 500 Million for two (small) machines with the option for two more and that's just procurement. There are multiple years of maintenance attached for additional millions of Euro.
That's the reason why 10 grand per annum isn't really much in the enterprise space.
Eastern European people: Adobe is free, what are you talking about? *opens torrented version of ps
I don't know about you guys but movie maker is the best.
LOL. For people like me that just want simple editing, that is still the best program. Too bad Microsoft removed it from windows...
I probably would've used it when I was making videos if Microsoft hadn't killed it. Got fed up with adobe and switched to Mac for easier amateur one-man-band work.
iMovie gang gang
You can still download it.
@@thomasalias8492 Really? Didn't know that. I've got so many Apple devices now that it hardly matters though (after talking shit for years about every one of their products lol).
I'm a professional web dev and designer who dumped adobe for Affinity 2 years ago and I now look back every month and laugh with giddy joy. Affinity does not have all the capabilities of Photoshop and Illustrator. But it has everything I need. Definitely check em out people.
DaVinci resolve for VFX, audio AND editing, EVEN color grading. It's all in one then just get affinity photo/ designer.
Affinity designer is straight up better as a drawing app compared to illustrator. For the work I do it's a combo of Affinity and Sketch nowadays
Is it a one time purchase or a subscription
I just said exactly the same thing. 56 now, used Photo shop since 1993(Photostyler before that and Quantel Piantbox before Mac's existed) using Affinity Apps now and laughing at what a joy they are to use and how much I'm not paying Adobe. If you're using Photoshop now, you're a mug...in my opinion, as you have to say these days.
@@heyitslewi1599 Affinity is one-time purchase for each of the products in their suite of three (Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher which are their photo-editing, vector-illustrating and full desktop-publishing-for-print products). They're currently offering a 90 day free trial of the whole suite and 50% off the already really decent pricing. They're a UK company (Serif) who have been making creative-y software since, I think, the Windows 3.1 era - their old Serif PagePlus product was their best thing, before they cut off the old codebase and started from scratch to make the Affinity suite a number of years ago. Also, for regular personal-license purchases you're allowed to install the same license-purchase on ALL of your own personally-owned-and-controlled computers (although not across-platform - if you want to use it on both Mac and Windows personal machines you will need both licenses). I'm not a paid shill, I've just been using their stuff since that Windows 3.1 era - their business practises have always been respectful of customers, so I shout them from the rooftops because good software from good companies deserves some ❤.
So the deal with Adobe is very much like with Windows: everyone uses it, so nobody can get away from it?
More like apple tbh
You can get away with Adobe. But, of course, you will lose dynamic links between the apps as Linus said.
@@musicwithsagar The Affinity suite actually uses one file format for all of their software, you can switch between them as you please. Mind you that's a total of 3 apps with no video editing capabilities.
and to do so just cost to much
And just like with Windows: everybody pirates it
And remember kids: pirating Adobe and Nintendo is *always* morally correct.
Ahhh remember the good ole days when buying a disc meant you paid for it once until they got money hungry and now every program is a subscription based product....effin stupid
Aye aye captain 😂
Still use my Photoshop cs2 cd for image editing lol
You can write your own if you don't like it...
Luckily they are pretty easy to crack ^_^
@@guerra_dos_bichos Lmfao, @Guerra dos Bichos 🤣 what a sad comeback...
The folks who wrote the Adobe code aren't gods, and neither are other devs, even if they might think so..
I, for one, already do 👍
Linus : Using Adobe cost $10K a year !!
*Jack Sparrow* : enters the chat...
yea, but if you pirate as a corporate it can cost you 100k instead of the 10k you saved
@@Berkeli keep it secret
Captain* Jack Sparrow
@@Berkeli honestly i didnt know that. Do you get fines or sth?
@@Berkeli if your corporate audited the shit out of everything lol
Adobe: it's free real estate
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) *its free real estate*
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
No. Adobe doesn‘t know the word „free“.
@@iski4317 it's paid real estate
Just pirate the damn thing.
Would love to see an update on this to know how the scene has changed
Finally davinci resolve is getting some recognition
So true. When I started using it it was known as the king of free editing software. Now people compare it to Adobe and final cut products.
They're also LMG videos. No one cares about their color grading or editing all that much. You watch it on a small ass phone.
It's actually better than adobe in so many ways. All of which were overlooked in this video. Like the main one is devinci will run seamlessly on low end pcs. while adobe is still a bugged out mess on high end pcs
one of resolve's biggest advantages is the dedicated hardware available from blackmagic, that's why it's so inexpensive, they make more money from the hardware.
Joel Guzman my laptop has an i5-7300HQ and a GTX 1060 6GB Max-Q. If I try to edit any 4K Davinci starts to lag A LOT, sometimes it freezes for 10 seconds, and other times it straight up *crashes.* I wouldn’t call that USABLE, not to mention seamless.
Do you know how many times I lost my work because it just suddenly crashed? Yeah, me neither, but it must be over 15.
Am I the only one that went "WTF" when I saw the new intro and wasn't expecting it?
yes
Yes
The had thisbin minecraft rtx video
The sound effect wasn’t necessary though. They already good with just background music alone.
I Was More Like Meh:D
For years i tought it was free then i relaized my copies was pirated xd
XD is free, adobe XD, :p
thought*
Hoooow do you pirate it
I hope Adobe does see your comment and sue you. Jk man no hard feelings
@@JustAlgato bitch
I don't even need to give Adobe money I got everything for free
“Assuming we were paying those rates”
Linus, stop using slave labor.
That's higher than the average wage in the US, and he's in Canada.
I bet u he is paying them more
Houshalter issa joke. He probably pays them well.
hope edsel and taran are paid well or i'd have left a long time ago. maybe why berkel left.
If you guys don’t know.
I will tell you. He is Joking.
And this is why I and pretty much everyone who isn't a true "professional" in that all their work revolves around it pirates their software. The price tag is just too ridiculous, like asking someone to pay 100 bucks for 1 cone of ice cream or 400 bucks for a pizza. What we need is companies that can truly compete with them and force down their prices.
Honestly, I detest these "pay every month" or "pay every year" methods. If I buy something, it should be mine for life.
Barely anyone in the professional video uses adobe suite. Some after effects use. Mostly Nuke, Smoke, Maya, and even davinci resolve + fusion are getting used. After effects is a fucking nightmare on big projects. Node based programs work way better. Go check out Nuke's price tag lmao
resolve and fusion have a much better work flow than adobe does, idk what linus is doing that he uses 30 different programs from adobe, they're not even the best available nor the best workflow.
Every PRO learned on pirated software, fact.
These products are not made to be affordable for you pal... they don’t have to make it affordable either so you can keep posting CoD videos no ones watching
@@edwardblom2661 Om man hatar hatar man och då hatar man rejält. Lugna ner dig.
TrackLizard Tillåtet att hata freeloaders såvitt jag vet...
Completely unrelated but I just sail the seven seas.
who am i do disagree
@@kairyu2914 everybody is looking for something
lunatik4 some of them want to use you
some of them want to abuse you
@@bluesky6905 some of them want to be abused
That new intro though
Chef's kiss
Me with a totally legit legal copy of Vegas:
Yes I can relate
Switch to DaVinci Resolve, you will never go back.
Our company switched to Resolve a year ago and it was a great decision.
It took some time to get used to but no more roundtrips for colourgrading!
We cancelled 80% of our Adobe Subscriptions and kept a couple of them for occasional PS and AE work.
I switched to the free version of Davinci Resolve about two years ago and I'm never looking back. Does 99% of what I need it to do and I haven't paid a dime. And it runs so much smoother than Premiere.
I am by no means a pro editor or even close to it but imo both have their issues too. I prefer editing in Davinci but the color tab just wont work for me. Each have their own bugs.
What sucks is that the free version does not have support for the NVenc or Intel Quick Sync for exports in h.264. Though Handbreak is very good and supports those 2 things.
Me too, it has been great so far... But I hate how overcomplicated is Fusion for super simple stuff
@@groundzero_-lm4md what about OpenCL?
I only use davinci resolve too
When I get an Adobe advert on this video: oh yeah, that's DEFINITELY what this video is all about.
Would have loved it if instead he said:
"You should check out our sponsor, Adobe"
Funny thing was the starting advert I seen was from adobe... lol
resolve running out of GPU VRAM?
the Radeon VII has entered the chat.
Yeah, not like they have a huge stack of GPU's just chillin on a bunch of wire shelves in their storage room............
Sadly, that video editing beast was discontinued only 5 months after launch.
Honestly... I just watched this video and was wondering about the GPU VRAM issue. I literally JUST installed a Vega 7 (upgraded from a 1070) yesterday to hope "resolve" ;) This issue. So I was wondering about my next project if I will see it at all.
Not to mention hbcc can allow you to have tons of available gpu memory even if it's not that fast. I've seen 48gb of gpu memory allocated for a Radeon vii. This also goes for all other hbm Vega cards.
0:30
Linus it's 3AM here and i don't think I'll sleep after seeing this😂
Holy cow, I'm watching this at 3 am too. Almost dropped my phone.
@@fall1n1_yt Germany
Fairlight may not be Audition, but it is certainly more than enough for video editing. I've been working in TV, broadcast, and documentary filmmaking for 20+ years. The only reason I still pay Adobe is for commercial projects that I use After Effects for. Even though fusion is much much more capable software, I haven't found the time to learn and more importantly get "fast" in it.
So unless you're not already too deep into adobe eco system, just stick with davinci and affinity.
It is always easier to build up a workflow from the ground up that trying to change some system that already kinda works. I have migrated all my workflow to free and open source alternatives 5 years ago, and for the projects I do, they are perfectly fine.
just pirate adobe lol
@@JohnnyBo-v JuStPiRaTeShIt
Do you recommend Affinity for a beginner that has only used MS paint for drawing? And is Affinity good for Windows 10 tablet PCs such as the Acer Spin? Does it have good performance on low-end devices?
@@aquaponieee For begginers I recommend GIMP for photos and Inkscape for graphics
Title: WHY do I pay Adobe 10k a year
Ad before the vid is Adobe why
touché
Same
ever heard of adblock lmao
Ha! Jokes on you premium user here v:
Because they liked the answer.
As a video editor, I went from Adobe to DaVinci Resolve and I never looked back. With the addition to Fusion it even got better. I don't understand anyone who wouldn't jump to Resolve and it's actually what everyone is doing in the editing industry.
I just tested adobe premier last night , it is so weird . Hard to use so i just uninstall and back to davinci resolve 17
Ye na yall are in the severe minority
Adobe products are devastatingly more powerful
Davinkyy?mmm
I went from filmora to davinci to premiere pro davinci is just so confusing n I love pp now
@@JSKR6 what's confusing with DaVinci? I ran into a couple of quirks, but after using both I can see DaVinci being significantly easier to pick up and use
As long as you accept and admit that LTT is part of the subscription model problem and are actively refusing to be part of the solution. The only way to put a stop to these horrific business practices is to practice wide spread boycotts of them. We need to band together and tell MS, Adobe and anyone else who does a sub model their sales will be ~0 units per year until they stop. And they only listen to money.
"Adobe crashes all the time"
Sony Vegas enters the ch......
*run into a problem*
Vegas used to be SOOOOO stable under Sony management. Now Magix keeps making it worse.
@@SimplyNon_sense I've not touched it past pro 16, just got worse.
I'm still using 15 lol. I had to turn of those annoying pop up upgrade ads.
Simply Nonsense Vegas was never stable... at least for me
It's not even sony anymore , it was bought out by Magix, and that's part of the problem lol. They refuse to commit to updating their programs properly.
I still can't believe Davinci Resolve has any kind of free version at all, it's fantastic
The free version is limited at full HD. I think that you can import an 4k video but you can't export it.
HazedCube Shhhhh
@@lobregs For people that mainly edit for something like School, Smartphone or even most of RUclips HD is enought. Because most Monitors and Smartphones still are only full HD.
@@lobregs no, it is limited to 4k not 1080p. Anything above 4k is limited. At least that was the case last I checked.
@@lobregs AAND?
I started using Resolve for work and personal production halfway through 2019 and haven't looked back. You'll still need access to After Effects for VFX and heavy comp work, and Photoshop/Illustrator for graphics, but other than that the Adobe Suite has nothing to offer to justify paying a subscription.
What about Affinity suite? I heard they are very good. Fusion or Nuke X are capable of doing compositing and VFX work.
Fusion is arguably more powerful than After Effects - it's not as easy to use, but it's extremely fast, node-based and fully scriptable. Photoshop still definitely has the lead over Affinity Photo though.
With how many people have moved to Davinci in the last monthes I think its time for the LTT 'For Now' video. Especially since overlooking in his napkin math is that 90% figure was from people used to the Adobe workflow and unused to the other tools. Give them 1 year to pick it up and that would certainly be near the same. Especially the case because though Adobe does work to bridge files those crashes between apps that do happen also take time and cost efficiciency, more than having many of those tools actually being a part of the same app like Davinci does ends up with.
Also for exporting to other collaborators you can always license a single seat and use that to filter out files when necessary.
Me who pirates my software
“What’s up fellow moneyers”
LMAO
FBI wants to know your location.
Don’t pirate games to sell them or play them as your main, the only reason why I see pirating games could be useful is if you wanna test part of the game before buying
@@ShinyDracovish It's still not a good reason, because there's the option to play a demo version of the game or you can get a refund if you bought the game on steam.
@@flat-eric 1. Not all games have demo versions and 2. You're actually costing the developer money when you ask for a refund. There are taxes, exchange rates and other hidden costs associated with that purchase you're not aware of, and what they receive is less than what you paid. As a dev myself I'd rather you download a illegal copy for your testing purposes rather than costing me money and time to handle your refund request after whatever you bought didn't work out for you.
There's nothing wrong with downloading a game with the purpose of seeing if it runs smoothly on your machine and/or if it's the right game for you. If they all had demos that would be unnecessary but demos are costly to create.
Davinci resolve is free.
Sold.
Up to 1080p afaik. Honestly, if you're fine with that and few other restrictions you are possibly looking at a good offering, but personally I think differentiating pro and "home-ish" use by resolution seems WAY antiquated. These days often times your phone shoots are WAY beyond FHD which is almost the new SD. Davinci's creators should find other restrictions. Like bitrate per resolution as a formula and even that is sketchy as hell...
@@AlexChama 1080p is still not the most dominant resolution on playback devices, most people have a lower resolution. Also I'm pretty sure you can edit up to UHD which is plenty! If you have the budget to shoot and deliver in 4K then you probably have the budget to buy the Studio version or already use a Blackmagic product which comes with a studio license.
@@AlexChama I belive its up to UHD but not higher. If they use 5K, 6K, 8K then, well, tough luck. But in that case its still a one time payment and then you own your copy.
@@AlexChama that is incorrect you can do any res with the free version you just lose some GPU based rendering options in color correction and some GPU based transitions.
edited
there are more restrictions such as the number of GPUs you can use aka only 1 with the free version. Along with a few other restrictions but they are few enough that there is some minor frustration from older purchasers of Resolve and what is currently allowed in the free version vs how it used to be.
@@AlexChama it's up to 4k
Would be great to have an updated version of this now. Since, many changes have come through 2022 and Affinity are well on the way to developing pro Apps
After Effects render times are so much longer (compared to Resolve) that my work is looking to switch software. Adobe has yet to address the poor outdated render engine in A.E. and when render times are 10x longer than the same comp in Resolve productivity suffers greatly! (We’ve also found the round trip feature to be problematic.)
This ^ I'm not saying my system is a ultimate workstation but 64GB of DDR4, GTC 1080 GPU, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 shouldn't take so long. Hell, Blender renders 3d scenes and models faster even in the newer 3.0 version.
That’s why you have to use Adobe Media Encoder to render your video. No professional video editors use the default rendering engine of A.E to render their videos.
@@NguyenTran-mf9gj I have found Media Encoder to be even more unreliable than AE for rendering. If you use 3rd party plugins, Media Encoder will shift colors, or fail to find license files etc. It has been totally unreliable for us so we stopped even trying to make it work!
Since my comment 11 months ago, Adobe has supposedly upgraded the render engine to at least allow multi threading again. Too little too late, as my company has now fully embraced Resolve for our VFX work. So far it has been a good decision and productivity, after the initial learning curve, is going up!
Exactly this! It’s not only about the price, Adobe‘s been getting so much worse in the last decade. The render times on my iMac for premiere are twice as long as those in FCPX, photoshop feels outdated to me in contrast to Affinity photo; Illustrator is a pain in the a*s to use in contrast to Designer.
They stopped optimising their performance and user interface as they don’t have to, enough people are paying either way, because they have to, for compatibility etc. *urgh*
Don’t forget the horrible UI. I spend more time fighting it than actually animating
me who uses blender, GIMP and audacity for everything :P
Don't forget OpenShot and Darktable 😁
@@MPXVM And kdenlive
Ah yes, not a working professional, I see! For those of us who make money - yeah, Autodesk and Adobe, unfortunately...
@@TheUltimateBlooper sure, one side are the professionals working with Adobe and the other side the rest of us playing with FFMPEG commands in Computer Terminal and editing small videos in free video editors like OpenShot / Kdenlive / Shotcut / VideoCut / Avidemux / Flowblade :D
@@MPXVM Terminal can eat shit for all I care. Doing things the round-about way doesn't make you a cool hipster.
0:31 Linus: "But there is a light in this dark dark world"
Me: "..and it comes from our sponsor for todays video: glasswire"
Totally thought of glasswire during the entire video. But if you're lucky you find the old beta software which was free and still works quite well.
this video deserves a followup
Da Vinci and Affinity has both been updated since this video... It would be interesting to see an updated video about this, as I'm fairly certain that most of your issues has been... Resolved! ;D
LMG bought 6 12k black magic camera... so they are now kind of forced to work with da vinci now
29 dollars an hour OMG! Working as an editor here in Argentina I'm earning about 3 dollars per hour. I wanna cry...
Come to India, you'll not even get those $3 for a week!
3 dollars per hour? Jesus. Unless your conversion rate is crazy good that must be unlivable.
Get in with a usa/canadian discord. If your work is good then they'll just paypal you for the work.
Dude, work internationally
@@tomventers Argentina, you wouldn't understand it 😎 haha
Been on a long break from techtubers, but I just had to drop by and say this: Your new intro is awesome! :D