8:50 I agree 100% and I respect you for recognizing that they should finish what they started. Being able to say "It's not for me but I won't complain to those who enjoy that" is a mature thing I feel a lot of gamers have lost. It is important to recognize these things, great vid!
He warned everyone from the beginning that he would not be persuaded to build the game any other way than how he wants to. The dynamic nature of the game world is not an old design.
Apologies to @RitchieSH - I did not realise that he had made the reddit post, I very likely would not have used that post had I known! Go check out his channel - www.youtube.com/@RitchieSH
They hate ashes because its bringing everything their mmos cant. All these giant billion dollar companies who have had years upon years to build and fix their game yet they are stale after 5 hours of playing and here comes ashes a kickstarter thats primarily funded by the owner (Steven) that promises more and does the unthinkable with constant updates for fans/supporters. It takes hundreds of millions of dollars and 100s of staff members to make a game in 7-10 years but people complain that ashes isnt out already. MMO fan base have way to many entitled impatient babies meanwhile ashes already looks better than all their mmos
I am just hoping this game comes out before I'm to old and cant play game anymore or died. It's taking them forever to put it out, I understand it takes a long time to make it game to.
I think a lot of people are burnt out of the "THIS MMO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE" because most people have a strong connection to their specific mmo. So when you call their mmo bad or imply that this upcoming mmo will be what their mmo and others couldn't live up to, it almost feels personal.
Sometimes, critical opinions may resemble hate, but surely, there are haters everywhere, as you have demonstrated. From my perspective, I used to be very excited about the game as an old-school Archeage player, and I'm still somewhat excited. However, I practically lost 90% of my enthusiasm for the game during the PVP livestream due to how bad the skills looked, especially the mage's lightning ball, which was particularly horrible. I don't need to say much about it... But I still watch and follow every kinda content related to Ashes, even from small channels.. The primary reason I believe people are losing interest in Ashes is due to the new generation of games that look incredible. When compared to Ashes, they appear to be a poorly executed remake of Archeage, with some graphical improvements in the environment but terrible visual effects. As for myself, I became excited about Ashes around 2016 when people were hoping for another version 2.0 of Archeage, as even Steven himself desired because the company managing Archeage in the West was ruining the game. Now, with a new and improved Archeage on the horizon, it's easy to switch the hype to the genuine Archeage 2. The last Ashes livestream gave me some hope that they would revamp or remake the classes, as they did with the Warrior. However, Ashes still lacks a distinct "identity" for me; it feels too generic. I hope they reveal more about the game's story, etc. I've purchased Alpha 2, and I intend to play it. I'm far from being a hater because I genuinely hope the game succeeds. The node system is unique and could provide the "identity" that is currently lacking in the game. However, I won't deny that I will also play Archeage 2, and it's more likely that I'll stick with it.
Most of the hate is unwarranted. What i dislike about this game personally, is the devs tasked with the class combat aspect. Actually, everyone involved in animations. They did improve the combat but it's still lackluster. At this point i don't have high hopes that they will make it actually good. They seem talentless to me.
People thought they were getting a feature complete MMO 7 years ago. World of Warcraft was in development for 7 years, a top notch dev team funded by Blizzard. People have no clue what it takes to bring an MMO to launch and assume the wait means AoC is vaporware like so many other KS scams.
i mean you said it. it was kickstarted 7 years ago. and it might not be out for another 4-5 years. no guarantee at all people who payed for it 12 years earlier will even care or remember it exists. 12 years is crazy...
we just dont care anymore... an mmo is an mmo. if i have to kill 20 bears for 12 pieces of fur, its nothing special. being teased of something special is just clickbait. just do it already.
crying about cosmetic shop is soo pathetic even more soo cuz its comming from plebs who were or still playing WoW keep playing your outdated game noone will miss you on this game when it comes out.. games looks just fine soo far its not even alpha 2 everything will still get adjusted nothing is finished yet
Its Odd to me That They are useing Unreal Engine 5 ! even in alpha or Pre whatever the Art Style & The Graphics Looks Like Dog Junk , The Textures look off Putting , its Odd to me the Ground and a lot of the Character Art Style of textures look Way to soft like Washed out . Not sure whats going on with that but it reminds me that its 2024 and MMOs are dying so is this the last Dog or whats going on with it why such weak art or Graphics ? why dos Grass and Wood and everything look washed out
i dont hate anything or anyone, but I can tell you the reason I dislike ashes, and it is combat, it's just bad, fx looks bad, those levitating animations of spell casting look goofy and I really dont like them, left a couple of comments but they are doubling down on those levitating animations that I just cringe when I see. Archeage had combat that looked more satisfying. But I think it is the animations that make me dont like it
'O.o ... what ? Well than play archage then, no one is forcing you. Just move on. No compagny will make a game for you, so if you found one that suites you... play it.
i hate it because there's no interesting pvp mmorpg with fast action combat, and this game advertises itself as a pvp MMORPG, when will I get the game I want (and not just me, as you can see from the comments about the combat), I will stop paying attention to the games which are not what I want
@@rickroll9705 I remember a lot of talk about how this is a pvp MMORPG, if this is not considered as such, then I'm wrong about that. I can press 100 buttons per second, for me pressing 1 button every 3 seconds is too slow, you can see that not only i don't like combat, and every month more and more people write something like this (not only about the fact that they don't like combat in Ashes, but also in all upcoming MMORPGs)
@@thedaeron3877 players like you don't want that, players like me want something like this, players like me were forced out of all the old MMORPGs after a shift in attention towards PVE, and every year you can see that online is falling in all MMORPGs, and it’s not gaining in new ones, I wonder why this is so
@@bed3499 but you probly already saw that PvP games are ''niche'' game and toxic and nobody plays them, that's why AoC are trying to make an MMO with some PvP elements. You should not try to get a game to go the routes you want, if it doesn't suites you just move on. There is some PvP games like NW, BDO, Archage, lineage 2... you might just go there
The answer is easy: It's a Kickstarter MMO.
Saved me 10min video. Cheers!
Surely Ritchie didn't make that reddit post in preperation for a new video
Wait.... It wasn't actually him right?
F..... It actually was him. I just messaged to apologize. I didn't realise it was him
8:50 I agree 100% and I respect you for recognizing that they should finish what they started. Being able to say "It's not for me but I won't complain to those who enjoy that" is a mature thing I feel a lot of gamers have lost. It is important to recognize these things, great vid!
He warned everyone from the beginning that he would not be persuaded to build the game any other way than how he wants to. The dynamic nature of the game world is not an old design.
Apologies to @RitchieSH - I did not realise that he had made the reddit post, I very likely would not have used that post had I known! Go check out his channel - www.youtube.com/@RitchieSH
No worries at all friend ❤
how can you hate a game you cannot currently play.
I love being edged, but I can only last so long before you just need it to come out. :p
😂
They hate ashes because its bringing everything their mmos cant. All these giant billion dollar companies who have had years upon years to build and fix their game yet they are stale after 5 hours of playing and here comes ashes a kickstarter thats primarily funded by the owner (Steven) that promises more and does the unthinkable with constant updates for fans/supporters. It takes hundreds of millions of dollars and 100s of staff members to make a game in 7-10 years but people complain that ashes isnt out already. MMO fan base have way to many entitled impatient babies meanwhile ashes already looks better than all their mmos
I am just hoping this game comes out before I'm to old and cant play game anymore or died. It's taking them forever to put it out, I understand it takes a long time to make it game to.
you mean why do "I HATE Ashes Of Creation"
Erm no but I do share some of the concerns.... I'm excited about alpha 2
@@AshesOfOddity concerns about a game that is not out yet? you need real facts for concerns.
It’s the edging people hate. Everyone just wants the climax! Haha😂
I think a lot of people are burnt out of the "THIS MMO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE" because most people have a strong connection to their specific mmo. So when you call their mmo bad or imply that this upcoming mmo will be what their mmo and others couldn't live up to, it almost feels personal.
Yeah fatigue creates hate. And actually a lot of people are happy enough playing their game
Sometimes, critical opinions may resemble hate, but surely, there are haters everywhere, as you have demonstrated. From my perspective, I used to be very excited about the game as an old-school Archeage player, and I'm still somewhat excited. However, I practically lost 90% of my enthusiasm for the game during the PVP livestream due to how bad the skills looked, especially the mage's lightning ball, which was particularly horrible. I don't need to say much about it... But I still watch and follow every kinda content related to Ashes, even from small channels..
The primary reason I believe people are losing interest in Ashes is due to the new generation of games that look incredible. When compared to Ashes, they appear to be a poorly executed remake of Archeage, with some graphical improvements in the environment but terrible visual effects. As for myself, I became excited about Ashes around 2016 when people were hoping for another version 2.0 of Archeage, as even Steven himself desired because the company managing Archeage in the West was ruining the game. Now, with a new and improved Archeage on the horizon, it's easy to switch the hype to the genuine Archeage 2.
The last Ashes livestream gave me some hope that they would revamp or remake the classes, as they did with the Warrior. However, Ashes still lacks a distinct "identity" for me; it feels too generic. I hope they reveal more about the game's story, etc. I've purchased Alpha 2, and I intend to play it. I'm far from being a hater because I genuinely hope the game succeeds. The node system is unique and could provide the "identity" that is currently lacking in the game. However, I won't deny that I will also play Archeage 2, and it's more likely that I'll stick with it.
Most of the hate is unwarranted. What i dislike about this game personally, is the devs tasked with the class combat aspect. Actually, everyone involved in animations. They did improve the combat but it's still lackluster. At this point i don't have high hopes that they will make it actually good. They seem talentless to me.
I think Steven is killing it !
*They hate Ashes, because it's going to make their current MMO obsolete.*
Thats like asking, why do you hate God after telling them you're an atheist.
Cause they cant wait. Simples.
People thought they were getting a feature complete MMO 7 years ago.
World of Warcraft was in development for 7 years, a top notch dev team funded by Blizzard.
People have no clue what it takes to bring an MMO to launch and assume the wait means AoC is vaporware like so many other KS scams.
Not to mention that AoC was scrapped like once or twice. Ashes had 2 totally different combat variations in those 7 years.
How someone can hate something he never played ? I get it , hate videos content are always selling
Same can be said about copium lol
No bug world anymore? xd
Creating this channel is looking like a better decision every day!
i mean you said it. it was kickstarted 7 years ago. and it might not be out for another 4-5 years. no guarantee at all people who payed for it 12 years earlier will even care or remember it exists. 12 years is crazy...
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They really dont though
I love it.
we just dont care anymore... an mmo is an mmo. if i have to kill 20 bears for 12 pieces of fur, its nothing special. being teased of something special is just clickbait. just do it already.
crying about cosmetic shop is soo pathetic even more soo cuz its comming from plebs who were or still playing WoW keep playing your outdated game noone will miss you on this game when it comes out.. games looks just fine soo far its not even alpha 2 everything will still get adjusted nothing is finished yet
Its Odd to me That They are useing Unreal Engine 5 ! even in alpha or Pre whatever the Art Style & The Graphics Looks Like Dog Junk , The Textures look off Putting , its Odd to me the Ground and a lot of the Character Art Style of textures look Way to soft like Washed out . Not sure whats going on with that but it reminds me that its 2024 and MMOs are dying so is this the last Dog or whats going on with it why such weak art or Graphics ? why dos Grass and Wood and everything look washed out
No one hates it
You'd be suprised
No hata... but it does look borring AF.
i dont hate anything or anyone, but I can tell you the reason I dislike ashes, and it is combat, it's just bad, fx looks bad, those levitating animations of spell casting look goofy and I really dont like them, left a couple of comments but they are doubling down on those levitating animations that I just cringe when I see. Archeage had combat that looked more satisfying. But I think it is the animations that make me dont like it
'O.o ... what ? Well than play archage then, no one is forcing you. Just move on. No compagny will make a game for you, so if you found one that suites you... play it.
i hate it because there's no interesting pvp mmorpg with fast action combat, and this game advertises itself as a pvp MMORPG, when will I get the game I want (and not just me, as you can see from the comments about the combat), I will stop paying attention to the games which are not what I want
it does not classify itself as a pvp mmo at all, just like a mmo. Action combat is pretty trash for mmos anyway, easily a death sentence.
@bed3499 nop we don't want that
@@rickroll9705 I remember a lot of talk about how this is a pvp MMORPG, if this is not considered as such, then I'm wrong about that. I can press 100 buttons per second, for me pressing 1 button every 3 seconds is too slow, you can see that not only i don't like combat, and every month more and more people write something like this (not only about the fact that they don't like combat in Ashes, but also in all upcoming MMORPGs)
@@thedaeron3877 players like you don't want that, players like me want something like this, players like me were forced out of all the old MMORPGs after a shift in attention towards PVE, and every year you can see that online is falling in all MMORPGs, and it’s not gaining in new ones, I wonder why this is so
@@bed3499 but you probly already saw that PvP games are ''niche'' game and toxic and nobody plays them, that's why AoC are trying to make an MMO with some PvP elements.
You should not try to get a game to go the routes you want, if it doesn't suites you just move on. There is some PvP games like NW, BDO, Archage, lineage 2... you might just go there
You can't hate things that don't exist...
Its taking to long, getting tired of waiting.
Cause it is a scam
crisse d'épais lolll toé t'a l'aire d'un vrai cave solide lol
@@thedaeron3877 Et toi tu parles bien la France
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq 🤣