It is honestly *INSANE* how loved Ashes of Creation is by many People out there, while at the same time absolutely and thoroughly *"HATED"* by so many WoW-Players with eternal Blizzard-Junkie Syndrome. I can't wait to see them freaking out and exploding in Rage when Ashes of Creation hopefully takes at least a Million Players away from WoW.
@@AszkalonOfVerra Wtf are you even talking about? What WoW players are up in arms over AoC? It just sounds like your telling to drum up some fake ass drama here. And even if AoC took a million players from WoW, it would still be at the top of the MMO list.
Slow Levelling - PLUS Death Penalty - PLUS No P2W - PLUS No Fast Travel - PLUS Killing another player during non-sanctioned event penalties - PLUS No Server the same - PLUS LARGE Population abilities - PLUS Things that made ArchAge Fun - PLUS!! Bought my Alpha 2 pass 3 years ago - PLUS! (Basically prepaid game w/12 month or so subscription and some fluff coin and some cosmetics. Worth it)
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq Cry harder. Good things take time. And since Ashes of Creations plans to be one *OF. THE. BEST.* good things ever ... ... ... well ... ...
Yes hype will hurt the game but it's on Steven mostly for the direction he is taking the game. I am skeptical the complexity of what he desires comes together for a good launch experience. I also don't see how the sweats won't just ruin it by abusing the systems around nodes, guild, and PvP. Steven seems to be stuck on ideas from a long gone online gaming time. Those ideas are gone because the market is way more competitive. Bad ideas don't get a pass just because it's online like they did years ago when being online was the main attraction
I agree but sadly Steven spent last 3 years hyping up the alpha 2 and last 6 months of back pedaling wont undo the years of "damage". And while I think its completely fair for CCs to help temper those expectations, the wider hyped audience with unrealistic expectations arent those who watch ashes content on weekly basis so its down to Steven on August 16th (and hopefully big CC reactions lol) to bring everyone down and finally tell us WHAT TO EXPECT! :D
I think there’s been way too much revealed already. And there’s SO many small channels/streamers trying to cover every little detail. I’m constantly getting recommended videos of AoC development (with like 50-100 views). One of the best parts of gaming is adventuring into the unknown, but I feel like I’ve already seen most of the game. The only thing I haven’t done is the boring part, grinding out hundreds of hours to complete it. I predict it WILL find its place in the MMO community, but likely as a “smaller” niche of players compared to the top dogs like Wow, OSRS, and FFXIV.
I expect it to be a full fledged game with 10 years of DLC that meets my every expectation. Having worked in IT for decades, people hear what they want to hear, and half of them are total idiots about software engineering. and don't get me started about hardware ignorance.
Expecting a full fledged game for an alpha release is basically the definition of over expectations. I wouldn’t be expect anything close to a full game, just a full set of features that aren’t particularly well balanced. Being in IT means little, help desk falls under IT at many places…
Honestly, almost 10 years to develop. What pressure beyond, Put Out a Playable Game. After that, the Pressure will be is it any good or will it be mired with bugs and goofball mechanics. He is planning expansions and content.....Right?
Alpha Two will suck. Any other expectation is ludicrous. Even your moderate expectations are too high. My advice (as a dedicated, well informed, member of a big established guild, follower of the game since 2017) to everyone that is not a core follower of the game -- meaning that you found it in the last two years and haven't exclusively focused on it at least since Alpha One -- Don't buy in, don't try to play, just watch your favorite streamer struggle with bugs, crashes, and exploits on Twitch. You'll enjoy that a lot more.
The game just seems like it has too much content its team is trying to cram in for it to not fall over due to its own weight. That's why most games have small patches over time to release new content. On top of that paying said company to test their own project only to later have to pay a full price (Which costs less than an alpha key) just sounds like robbery and a scam to me. If the game doesn't end up being a scam I can only imagine its system requirements will be so drastically high to play it without constant crashes will not be within budget of your average PC user. That's fine and all when it comes to keeping an audience or playerbase, but history has shown multiple times that if the playerbase isn't there, the game will eventually fizzle out unless they go into a microtransaction system. Which is exactly what these guys already have while the game hasn't even been released yet. AoC used to look good, now it's just looking more and more like something that will never get released and has taken money from its supports for virtually no return. Everything about it to me is pointing toward it being a scam at its worst, and a product that will never get released due to some unforeseen issues at its best. Hopefully for those that are still closely following this game and even are financially supporting it, that won't happen.
It may, but the biggest enemy of any MMO is the big streamers. I hope they separate them in their own servers and let the rest of the people play on normal servers. Streamers can manipulate people's reaction and action towards a product in a huge and many different ways.
Am I the only one who thinks that many people are making too much of a big deal out of this? First of all, it's just a game, there's no need for all that drama. And secondly, it's a game in ALPHA state. You literally just have to wait for it to be officially released if you want a complete experience. Also, no one is forcing you to buy alpha/beta keys...
oh so you're saying that people are going to have unrealistic expectations in the genre that has delivered the most dogshit to the gaming industry (outside of mobile gaming) for a decade now? i can't believe it. sorry but that's not something you can really take control of. the game will have to deliver as much as it can and then simply take what it gets as a player base. they cannot satisfy everyone and they won't either. but if JUST GOOD ENOUGH for us desperate mmo players to move on from whatever piss we're currently still stuck on then it will be enough to change the industry.
*There's also a disconnect between you and remembering 15M people played WoW, and are still out there waiting for a game worth making time to play. Ashes looks like that game to Millions of players.*
all the ppl hating on game are just boring ass WoW player who are stuck in their loophole for 15 years telling themselves their game is beetter than everything else i wonder why ppl rather play FF14 peetty much a solo game over WoW these days..
Well.
There is so much hype for a reason, and that reason is players are getting tired of the same stuff for the last 20 years.
AOC is the asiat MMorpg but from weastern
It is honestly *INSANE* how loved Ashes of Creation is by many People out there, while at the same time absolutely and thoroughly *"HATED"* by so many WoW-Players with eternal Blizzard-Junkie Syndrome.
I can't wait to see them freaking out and exploding in Rage when Ashes of Creation hopefully takes at least a Million Players away from WoW.
I adore WoW (Classic). Nothing will beat it, unfortunately.
But I am very hyped about AoC. So are most of WoW players I believe.
@@AszkalonOfVerra Wtf are you even talking about?
What WoW players are up in arms over AoC? It just sounds like your telling to drum up some fake ass drama here.
And even if AoC took a million players from WoW, it would still be at the top of the MMO list.
@@tonydalimata Preach!!!!
Slow Levelling - PLUS
Death Penalty - PLUS
No P2W - PLUS
No Fast Travel - PLUS
Killing another player during non-sanctioned event penalties - PLUS
No Server the same - PLUS
LARGE Population abilities - PLUS
Things that made ArchAge Fun - PLUS!!
Bought my Alpha 2 pass 3 years ago - PLUS! (Basically prepaid game w/12 month or so subscription and some fluff coin and some cosmetics. Worth it)
No game - PLUS
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq Cry harder. Good things take time. And since Ashes of Creations plans to be one *OF. THE. BEST.* good things ever ... ... ... well ... ...
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq 🧀4 your 🍷
This man just said no Fast travel-Plus. You on crack or just sadistic?
Plus for sure - let's get a real challenge with actual consequences in this mmo. Not everyone will like it, but I'm thrilled!!
Yes hype will hurt the game but it's on Steven mostly for the direction he is taking the game. I am skeptical the complexity of what he desires comes together for a good launch experience. I also don't see how the sweats won't just ruin it by abusing the systems around nodes, guild, and PvP. Steven seems to be stuck on ideas from a long gone online gaming time. Those ideas are gone because the market is way more competitive. Bad ideas don't get a pass just because it's online like they did years ago when being online was the main attraction
Yep,they went away and look at the Complete shit show we have in mmos today.
@@JohnAPrescott If by "shit show" you mean games that cater to what different player bases want and reliable network technology then sure.
It's a niche game, that's fine.
I hope your able to find a way to fit in!
Will be treated as full release because alpha cost twice as much as the full game
Yeah good point. A2's going to be very telling.
I might need a dose of copium
I agree but sadly Steven spent last 3 years hyping up the alpha 2 and last 6 months of back pedaling wont undo the years of "damage". And while I think its completely fair for CCs to help temper those expectations, the wider hyped audience with unrealistic expectations arent those who watch ashes content on weekly basis so its down to Steven on August 16th (and hopefully big CC reactions lol) to bring everyone down and finally tell us WHAT TO EXPECT! :D
Alpha 2....15 years later. The only expectation that is going to hurt is the expectation that it will release.
Great video- not everyone will like everything. Step by step, no need to rush what could be a great game.
I think there’s been way too much revealed already. And there’s SO many small channels/streamers trying to cover every little detail. I’m constantly getting recommended videos of AoC development (with like 50-100 views). One of the best parts of gaming is adventuring into the unknown, but I feel like I’ve already seen most of the game. The only thing I haven’t done is the boring part, grinding out hundreds of hours to complete it.
I predict it WILL find its place in the MMO community, but likely as a “smaller” niche of players compared to the top dogs like Wow, OSRS, and FFXIV.
I expect it to be a full fledged game with 10 years of DLC that meets my every expectation.
Having worked in IT for decades, people hear what they want to hear, and half of them are total idiots about software engineering. and don't get me started about hardware ignorance.
Expecting a full fledged game for an alpha release is basically the definition of over expectations. I wouldn’t be expect anything close to a full game, just a full set of features that aren’t particularly well balanced. Being in IT means little, help desk falls under IT at many places…
not releasing will hurt AoC the most
Honestly, almost 10 years to develop. What pressure beyond, Put Out a Playable Game. After that, the Pressure will be is it any good or will it be mired with bugs and goofball mechanics. He is planning expansions and content.....Right?
Alpha Two will suck. Any other expectation is ludicrous. Even your moderate expectations are too high. My advice (as a dedicated, well informed, member of a big established guild, follower of the game since 2017) to everyone that is not a core follower of the game -- meaning that you found it in the last two years and haven't exclusively focused on it at least since Alpha One -- Don't buy in, don't try to play, just watch your favorite streamer struggle with bugs, crashes, and exploits on Twitch. You'll enjoy that a lot more.
I disagree, most people wont get to try alpha 2 because only the cashed up can play
The game just seems like it has too much content its team is trying to cram in for it to not fall over due to its own weight. That's why most games have small patches over time to release new content. On top of that paying said company to test their own project only to later have to pay a full price (Which costs less than an alpha key) just sounds like robbery and a scam to me. If the game doesn't end up being a scam I can only imagine its system requirements will be so drastically high to play it without constant crashes will not be within budget of your average PC user. That's fine and all when it comes to keeping an audience or playerbase, but history has shown multiple times that if the playerbase isn't there, the game will eventually fizzle out unless they go into a microtransaction system. Which is exactly what these guys already have while the game hasn't even been released yet.
AoC used to look good, now it's just looking more and more like something that will never get released and has taken money from its supports for virtually no return. Everything about it to me is pointing toward it being a scam at its worst, and a product that will never get released due to some unforeseen issues at its best. Hopefully for those that are still closely following this game and even are financially supporting it, that won't happen.
As someone who played A1 trust me you didnt miss anything. A1 was maybe 5% of what A2 is supposed to be.
It may, but the biggest enemy of any MMO is the big streamers. I hope they separate them in their own servers and let the rest of the people play on normal servers. Streamers can manipulate people's reaction and action towards a product in a huge and many different ways.
Am I the only one who thinks that many people are making too much of a big deal out of this? First of all, it's just a game, there's no need for all that drama.
And secondly, it's a game in ALPHA state. You literally just have to wait for it to be officially released if you want a complete experience. Also, no one is forcing you to buy alpha/beta keys...
I still cant stomach the artstyle and the over saturated colours
This. It doesn't stand out.
Wil def give it a sniff as well
If this game comes out in its current state, its gonna be ass. 8 years and this falls short
Cool!
Jay, please tell me your gonna be on eu servers!! Narc has abandoned us, also are you gonna run a guild?
What servers is Narc playing on if not EU?
I am going to be on EU but I am joining a guild called KDS - Everyone is welcome to sign up, they do like PvP though.
NA
Narc I looking into NA EAST serves
@@AshesOfOddityI would be more than happy to join that guild dude, I’m heavy into pvp anyway so that’s cool
The game just doesnt look good, artistically, gameplay wise, the features implemented.
Ya right 😂
That's fair, what game are you looking forward to or currently playing?
Not sure how one can say that when it looks how it does.
@@DeadlyDag It looks like generic UE5 assets. Artistically I'm not feeling it
oh so you're saying that people are going to have unrealistic expectations in the genre that has delivered the most dogshit to the gaming industry (outside of mobile gaming) for a decade now? i can't believe it. sorry but that's not something you can really take control of. the game will have to deliver as much as it can and then simply take what it gets as a player base. they cannot satisfy everyone and they won't either. but if JUST GOOD ENOUGH for us desperate mmo players to move on from whatever piss we're currently still stuck on then it will be enough to change the industry.
*There's also a disconnect between you and remembering 15M people played WoW, and are still out there waiting for a game worth making time to play. Ashes looks like that game to Millions of players.*
Erm yeah, I hope so! I am not slagging off the game
The game isnt very appealing to the eyes. They should have went with a different art style.
One more style, epic, medieval fantasy
watched your newworld contentz resubbed to your new channel!
It literally looks like a worse version of New world ngl.
all the ppl hating on game are just boring ass WoW player who are stuck in their loophole for 15 years telling themselves their game is beetter than everything else i wonder why ppl rather play FF14 peetty much a solo game over WoW these days..
We are stuck, because there is nothing else out there. And those who stopped playing WoW (bored), desperately wait for a good MMORPG.
@@pogolas pantheon rise of the fallen is the only one
Fucking awesome whatever people say. Once you are in it. Others actual MMorpg are boring
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq I’ll check it. Thank you.
i wouldnt take anything this guy says serious.. afterall he sayd new world will get back to millions of players