I suspect that in a number of cases, narcissism is closely linked to ADHD's nasty cousins, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) and Conduct Disorder (CD), both of which can look an awful lot like narcissism.
Thank you for this! I notice with my 14 year old ADHD daughter, that words of affirmation go very far with her. Her therapist really helped me understand how hard she was trying to navigate life... and that constant feedback from me was viewed as criticism. Now, if I have to comment on something I don't like, I make sure to affirm her for the things she does that I do like; usually after a few hours of the "negative" comment. My family listens to your podcasts on the drop of to school. It makes her feel good that everyone is learning about ADHD to help her. #LOVEMYKID
I never knew that adhd could cause these kinds of conditions. I'm diagnosed with adhd myself and my sister has pointed out that I was showing narcissistic tendencies...makes way more sense now.
I'm not a professional. Based on what I've read and heard so far, I believe there is a distinction between narcissistic traits and narcissistic reactions. Typically the narcissistic traits are part of someone's personality and are notoriously difficult to recognize and own by those who have them, whereas narcissistic reactions (the fight part in the fight or flight coping mechanism) come with varying degrees of ownership, depending on what the underlying issue is. Someone with ADHD or PTSD will more readily own their narcissistic (fight) reactions. You may have to point out to a person with ADHD that their reaction is coming from the way their brains are wired (it's not coming from their personality), but I hope once you do point it out, you can get that person to talk about it in a video. A person with PTSD knows outright that a narcissistic, fighting reaction is wrong and takes the blame for it, feeling further blame and distress for not knowing what's wrong with them that got them to overreact, but knowing there IS something wrong and not wanting it to happen again. A person who has narcissistic traits and exhibits narcissistic reactions won't know there's something wrong with reacting in this way, and even after this has been pointed out to them by a professional, they may find it difficult to accept that they are the ones who may share in the blame of how they cope with frustrated expectations. For a person whose personality is narcissistic (i.e. they possess narcissistic traits) their narcissistic reaction is ALWAYS absolutely justified to them, because of the perceived injury inflicted upon them.
Thank you ! I'm a student and I have adhd. People have told me I am stubborn and sometimes selfish(btw my parents are abusive so they have said some horrible things to me, mostly false but sometimes true which is stubbornness and selfishness) I never understand why people call me that, so I often be defensive and leaving the situation. Now I understand After looking at the big picture and other people's POV. I don't really feel bad but I believe I should. I always did those thing because I really like it and I was so hyperfocous on those things I didn't put others in my consideration. Now I may not be able to throw this problem away even if I want to. But I will improve my self to be more wise and I will inform people of my problems. I love the video you made this is one of the few videos you dont need too much editing to keep peopel's attention. It has a bunch of important advice for the ADHDers and their close friends. Thanks for your knowledge, I'd be sure to keep up with you ! Bye!
I have been with my partner 4 yrs now and have been trying to figure out if men with ADHD are so rude and treat their wives with disrespect and no sense of emotion towards their partner. I feel used and so unloved i try so hard to please my partner and understand him but he refuses to understand me. idk what to do
If it is ADD, ADHD or Narcissism that is behind the bad behavior does not really matter, it is extremely damaging to you and my only advice is RUN, get out of there and never look back...
lyft love 4 years is nothing compared to the 50+ you have left. It's not worth it. It'll get tiring at some point, my advice is do it now rather than later. Stay blessed x
you’re getting told to leave but try therapy with him before you leave then having to enter the dating game again. but i just noticed this is 2 years old so..
If he isn’t willing to stop treating you like crap and show it, you need to RUN! Four years I more than enough time. “He refuses to understand me.” There you have it. That’s a character issue, not ADHD.
This is so helpful me and my boyfriend have been together for 3 years and I never knew that adhd can be mistaken for narcissism. My boyfriend has ADHD since he was younger and stopped taking his medication since that time . I have always had so many questions on why he acts certain ways. He always wants to talk about his day and what he has been up to and I should just start listening.
Ironically, this is quite a long introduction for an ADHD audience, trying to stick with it but geez 3 minutes is an eternity for me. Sorry if this comment causes you any emotional distress as that's not my intent.
Outside of full blown NPD, I feel like most people are narcissistic. The only way to not be is to “surrender control” to something you don’t fully grasp and that’s not something people always have available. How much narcissism should be allowed in people’s lives for them to be considered (not an asshole)?
My family some have including myself have adha i still see myself as a.d.d. I have supportive friends and family in my life. Yeah i was around a narcissit my Stepdad. He and my mom fought alot. I do see my couslor i ask her if i was a narcissist ... she said no that i do not see any of the characterist of a narcissist.
Talking about feedback, I think you should try to take a different camera angle. I just realized when your portrait photo appeared that it reallly looks much nicer. I think it's a common Mimic thing.
In discussing NPD and comparing to ADHD, you first bring up selfishness and then grandiosity. NPD is way more than selfish and craving admiration. You aren't even touching the tip of the iceberg. NPD destroys people's lives. It is not nearly as shallow as you're presenting it. This is a poor depiction of comparing these 2 disorders. You are not even coming close to the broad list of traits associated with NPD. In fact you really only denonstrated here that you wanted hits but without putting any work into it.
For me if im in a bad place or trying to understand myself more or figuring something out I have to tell myself to f everyone/everything else, it’s just you. So what’s gonna happen?’ The world is distracting because it makes me worry about reality as well as other people’s opinions, which can make me want to avoid the truth to better avoid an unpleasant situation. But this is only with life complications
hi I love the video! I was wondering if you could maybe give me some tips or make a video on this if you haven't already. I work as a sales person and I do 1 show a month for 10 days at a time. In those 10 days I have to stand in one spot at my booth for 10 1/2 hrs a day selling my product to customers shopping in the store. I find it INCREADIBLY hard to stay at my booth especially when there is noone stopping by and talking to me for hours at a time. a half hour can feel like 3 and I start to get really anxious and figety and then I will wander off to take a break or go to the bathroom or talk to other employees or basically anything other than stand there going crazy. This has unfortunately resulted in managers of the store repremanding me for not being at my booth and leaving too often but I just can't seem to stay there without an immense amount of anxiety and need for stimulation. I love my job and the freedom it offers me to not have to work the rest of the month but I'm afraid if I don't find a way to curb my ADD impulses I might lose my job. any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you!
My ex partner of 20 years has adhd and narcissism. I could live with it if she just had the ability to shut the F up about things. Like she has to beat me up about it. I tell her I get it and she doesn't have to keep repeating it but she gets so aggressive about it. I'm 70 and just over it, rather be alone.
I do not believe that it is a good idea to conflate Narcissism with ADHD. It is vitally important to understand Narcissism, and to identify Narcissistic people. But explanations fail when they are poorly constructed (Narcissism being conflated with healthy self love and confidence, etc.), by creating more misunderstanding. Thank you for making a distinction and for challenging this trend.
My son was diagnosed with ADHD since he was 6 years old and he had a hardly time everything 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️and effect the family a lot 😭specially me as his mother
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I suspect that in a number of cases, narcissism is closely linked to ADHD's nasty cousins, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) and Conduct Disorder (CD), both of which can look an awful lot like narcissism.
Is it common for a adhd person to do what they want and disregardothers? And rules?
Yes, but it’s not blatant disregard it’s the lack of focus or hyper focus and that depends of if we’re interested in the subject
Thank you for this! I notice with my 14 year old ADHD daughter, that words of affirmation go very far with her. Her therapist really helped me understand how hard she was trying to navigate life... and that constant feedback from me was viewed as criticism. Now, if I have to comment on something I don't like, I make sure to affirm her for the things she does that I do like; usually after a few hours of the "negative" comment. My family listens to your podcasts on the drop of to school. It makes her feel good that everyone is learning about ADHD to help her. #LOVEMYKID
Thank you so much for your kind words and listening. I'm glad this is helpful for you guys! If you ever want me to discuss something, let me know!
I never knew that adhd could cause these kinds of conditions. I'm diagnosed with adhd myself and my sister has pointed out that I was showing narcissistic tendencies...makes way more sense now.
Same here....I hear you.
It’s so often confused one for the other!
everyone has narcissistic tendencies
You have traits of a down-to-earth, realistic, genuine guy.
I'm not a professional. Based on what I've read and heard so far, I believe there is a distinction between narcissistic traits and narcissistic reactions.
Typically the narcissistic traits are part of someone's personality and are notoriously difficult to recognize and own by those who have them, whereas narcissistic reactions (the fight part in the fight or flight coping mechanism) come with varying degrees of ownership, depending on what the underlying issue is.
Someone with ADHD or PTSD will more readily own their narcissistic (fight) reactions. You may have to point out to a person with ADHD that their reaction is coming from the way their brains are wired (it's not coming from their personality), but I hope once you do point it out, you can get that person to talk about it in a video.
A person with PTSD knows outright that a narcissistic, fighting reaction is wrong and takes the blame for it, feeling further blame and distress for not knowing what's wrong with them that got them to overreact, but knowing there IS something wrong and not wanting it to happen again.
A person who has narcissistic traits and exhibits narcissistic reactions won't know there's something wrong with reacting in this way, and even after this has been pointed out to them by a professional, they may find it difficult to accept that they are the ones who may share in the blame of how they cope with frustrated expectations. For a person whose personality is narcissistic (i.e. they possess narcissistic traits) their narcissistic reaction is ALWAYS absolutely justified to them, because of the perceived injury inflicted upon them.
Wow so well explained however!
This is very insightful. Thank you
Love this distinction thanks!
Thank you !
I'm a student and I have adhd. People have told me I am stubborn and sometimes selfish(btw my parents are abusive so they have said some horrible things to me, mostly false but sometimes true which is stubbornness and selfishness)
I never understand why people call me that, so I often be defensive and leaving the situation. Now I understand After looking at the big picture and other people's POV.
I don't really feel bad but I believe I should. I always did those thing because I really like it and I was so hyperfocous on those things I didn't put others in my consideration. Now I may not be able to throw this problem away even if I want to. But I will improve my self to be more wise and I will inform people of my problems.
I love the video you made this is one of the few videos you dont need too much editing to keep peopel's attention. It has a bunch of important advice for the ADHDers and their close friends. Thanks for your knowledge, I'd be sure to keep up with you ! Bye!
I have been with my partner 4 yrs now and have been trying to figure out if men with ADHD are so rude and treat their wives with disrespect and no sense of emotion towards their partner. I feel used and so unloved i try so hard to please my partner and understand him but he refuses to understand me. idk what to do
If it is ADD, ADHD or Narcissism that is behind the bad behavior does not really matter, it is extremely damaging to you and my only advice is RUN, get out of there and never look back...
lyft love 4 years is nothing compared to the 50+ you have left. It's not worth it. It'll get tiring at some point, my advice is do it now rather than later. Stay blessed x
you’re getting told to leave but try therapy with him before you leave then having to enter the dating game again. but i just noticed this is 2 years old so..
If he isn’t willing to stop treating you like crap and show it, you need to RUN! Four years I more than enough time. “He refuses to understand me.” There you have it. That’s a character issue, not ADHD.
Why did you marry him then? 😂🤡
This is so helpful me and my boyfriend have been together for 3 years and I never knew that adhd can be mistaken for narcissism. My boyfriend has ADHD since he was younger and stopped taking his medication since that time . I have always had so many questions on why he acts certain ways. He always wants to talk about his day and what he has been up to and I should just start listening.
Ironically, this is quite a long introduction for an ADHD audience, trying to stick with it but geez 3 minutes is an eternity for me. Sorry if this comment causes you any emotional distress as that's not my intent.
Outside of full blown NPD, I feel like most people are narcissistic. The only way to not be is to “surrender control” to something you don’t fully grasp and that’s not something people always have available. How much narcissism should be allowed in people’s lives for them to be considered (not an asshole)?
When they're willfully damaging people using a series of tactics and gaslights, and they know it and don't care.
My family some have including myself have adha i still see myself as a.d.d. I have supportive friends and family in my life. Yeah i was around a narcissit my Stepdad. He and my mom fought alot. I do see my couslor i ask her if i was a narcissist ... she said no that i do not see any of the characterist of a narcissist.
Getting to the point without extra babble is beneficial for us all
You didn’t really say anything
Like at all, lol
Talking about feedback, I think you should try to take a different camera angle. I just realized when your portrait photo appeared that it reallly looks much nicer. I think it's a common Mimic thing.
In discussing NPD and comparing to ADHD, you first bring up selfishness and then grandiosity. NPD is way more than selfish and craving admiration. You aren't even touching the tip of the iceberg. NPD destroys people's lives. It is not nearly as shallow as you're presenting it. This is a poor depiction of comparing these 2 disorders. You are not even coming close to the broad list of traits associated with NPD. In fact you really only denonstrated here that you wanted hits but without putting any work into it.
For me if im in a bad place or trying to understand myself more or figuring something out I have to tell myself to f everyone/everything else, it’s just you. So what’s gonna happen?’ The world is distracting because it makes me worry about reality as well as other people’s opinions, which can make me want to avoid the truth to better avoid an unpleasant situation. But this is only with life complications
hi I love the video! I was wondering if you could maybe give me some tips or make a video on this if you haven't already. I work as a sales person and I do 1 show a month for 10 days at a time. In those 10 days I have to stand in one spot at my booth for 10 1/2 hrs a day selling my product to customers shopping in the store. I find it INCREADIBLY hard to stay at my booth especially when there is noone stopping by and talking to me for hours at a time. a half hour can feel like 3 and I start to get really anxious and figety and then I will wander off to take a break or go to the bathroom or talk to other employees or basically anything other than stand there going crazy. This has unfortunately resulted in managers of the store repremanding me for not being at my booth and leaving too often but I just can't seem to stay there without an immense amount of anxiety and need for stimulation. I love my job and the freedom it offers me to not have to work the rest of the month but I'm afraid if I don't find a way to curb my ADD impulses I might lose my job. any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you!
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My ex partner of 20 years has adhd and narcissism. I could live with it if she just had the ability to shut the F up about things. Like she has to beat me up about it. I tell her I get it and she doesn't have to keep repeating it but she gets so aggressive about it. I'm 70 and just over it, rather be alone.
I do not believe that it is a good idea to conflate Narcissism with ADHD. It is vitally important to understand Narcissism, and to identify Narcissistic people. But explanations fail when they are poorly constructed (Narcissism being conflated with healthy self love and confidence, etc.), by creating more misunderstanding. Thank you for making a distinction and for challenging this trend.
What's up johnny
Get on with it!
Adhd is a red flag
A red flag for what?
thank you for this!
I watched this for another reason but I think my son has adhd 😬 maybe my husband too 🤔 Yowsa
My son was diagnosed with ADHD since he was 6 years old and he had a hardly time everything 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️and effect the family a lot 😭specially me as his mother
It's lunchtime and you're making me hungry.😒
Adhd
Disorder? Difference not Disorder!!!!!!
911 views (while listening to wyclef jean - 911 - no joke..) what the ....?
9:11pm here
So adhd folks behave badly & say "OOOO. ...I......have adhd sry not sry ." You sound like a baby .😂😢😂😢😅😅😅😅😊
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