You loose horsepower through the wheels it’s the same as the spark varg it’s an electric dirt bike that has 80hp but did high 60s due to the loss in the wheel
Dyno readings aren't always perfect. Environmental factors matter as well as how the dyno is calculating the power. A well calibrated dyno can properly measure power from the wheels at the date and time the test was done, but that doesn't tell us how much power the engine is actually making nor do we know if it's doing any math to calculate bhp, whp, or hp or compensate for humidity, temp, air pressure.
Can I just say having all the host collaborate on one video is giving me Avenger level excitement, it's cool to see all of them sharing thought in real time.
He doesn't seem to understand how to play the game. He guesses higher or lower than everyone despite hearing their guesses first he still goes 100% with his gut.
So cool to see you promote Vredestein! I'm Dutch and have been driving Vredestein tires my whole life! Well, first on my bicycle, but after getting my driver's licence on all the cars I owned.
calibration, and different tolerances between models/manufacturers. not much more to it than that. just each brand's secret sauce to give consistent results against itself (with temperature/humidity/baro pressure factoring in too) aside from engine dynos and hub dynos which would be comparing apples to oranges anyway
@@austinh1028 this. On the video it looks like its hot af that day. I believe the different conditions can explain that power difference on subaru easily.
I am proud of you guys with all these cars. You came a long way .. Although Top Gear and Grand Tour ended and we have amazing memories with them since childhood, I am releaved that you guys are here to take us through our adulthood very swiftly
This dyno was reading SUPER low. And I mean 20-50HP low. Thats not really acceptable for a dyno, and I highly suggest you guys find one thats properly calibrated. Lol.
great clip! Donut Crew are all awesome to watch and when you all in the clip really shows you are all good frineds (or incredible actors.. LOL) Best bit is my dirty old 2006 HSV GTS daily only 4hp off of Low Rexy (when it was new shush) kinda made me happy! love your work! MORE DONUT BABY! lol
@natedogg4632 first and second. With no bonus on winning or a locked in guess without hearing the other. But then again it's not as classy as the price is right. It's just donut! 😉
Love that Jerry is on the ropes, guessing last and always goes to either a low or high extreme. If he had just guessed something between the other scores he would've been fine lol.
It’s refreshing to see a quality brand as a RUclips sponsor. The last set of tires I bought were Vredestein Quatracs and they have been by far the best budget tires I’ve ever bought.
@@max0nily horizon 5, there's a donut media story, wich added hi and low Z, i think the donut van, and some clothes, also nolan and james made into the game
I've had Vredestein Quatrac all seasons on my Honda Fit for a couple of years, and I really love them. They're obviously not the best at any one thing, but they do just fine in the summer, and they're fantastic in the winter up here in north Wisconsin. Plus the tread pattern is SICK
Wheel size doesn’t impact power, bigger wheels would affect the final drive ratio and reducing the torque to the wheels. This is not accounting for parasitic losses of the tire like contact patch area and deformation. These losses shouldn’t be significant though.
The Changli has 1500 watts of power? I hate to break it to you, but each one of my electric scooters motors produce the same amount of watts, all for 1300 USD.
I have Vredestein tires on all three of my cars (Audi A4 Quattro, Cadillac XTS AWD, Mazda CX-5 AWD) and my wife and I love them. Best tires in the wet I've ever driven, plus they are quiet and ride and handle better than stock.
That is one of the smoothest segways to new merch that I have ever seen. How the hell did you manage to make me want to buy stickers? Whoever made that small segment got talent.
That little civic is every car guy’s dream when we were growing up. Also James did very good at guessing the hrsprs in each car he was the closest in most occasions.
@Donut now do the same with personal cars. P.S.- Great sponsor tho, been running Vredestein tires for years on my BMW. If anyone is wondering if they should check them out.. yes, you should. Especially if it rains where you live.
@@Idiomatick Even if they're not, you can just build your exhaust with studs on it to mount the cutouts, then put block-off plates if you need it inspected
I hate dyno numbers. People always ask me what my car made on the dyno and I always tell them I haven’t got it dynoed because it doesn’t really mean anything. They best way to tell differences in power after mods is differences in running #’s like 1/8th, 1/4, 60-130, and even 0-60 can help. They always tell me it doesn’t mean anything unless the dyno tells me a # and I’m like wtf. The dyno doesn’t change anything. The car still has the same power. It’s literally just a # to brag about and it could be over inflated or super low depending on dyno and conditions so it doesn’t mean anything.
Man I love these guys. They need to do a bunch of wacky side quest antics like make a (joke) spicy calender or form a boyband where they sing catchy pop songs about cars
I've had to drive loaders and road graders on what would be a 2 hour drive for a car. I don't mind saying, when you're roading heavy equipment, you have looooooots of time to sightsee. Driving your go-kart pretending to be a pickup is probably like that.
I see no one talking about James transformation, keep it up dude!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻✨🎊🙌🏻 I remember the good old days of UP TO SPEED, & the first time he said “LIGHTING!”, “BUFFHORSES”
I just got an Xbox and was surprised to see the donut logo on the map while I was playing Forza! The character models are hilariously terrible but regardless it’s so cool you guys made it into the game, I can’t imagine how it must feel to have a car you built be featured in Forza. Awesome job guys
for those wondering: 1500 Watts or 1.5 kW are around 2 hp. so James would have been the closest if the dyno had worked.
You loose horsepower through the wheels it’s the same as the spark varg it’s an electric dirt bike that has 80hp but did high 60s due to the loss in the wheel
unless chinesium factory is lying and it's closer to half of it
Becsuse its Murica, i think the results are all in whp, and not in bhp
yeah rated hp and hp at the wheels are two different things.
Dyno readings aren't always perfect. Environmental factors matter as well as how the dyno is calculating the power. A well calibrated dyno can properly measure power from the wheels at the date and time the test was done, but that doesn't tell us how much power the engine is actually making nor do we know if it's doing any math to calculate bhp, whp, or hp or compensate for humidity, temp, air pressure.
Time to turn the Changli into a 1:1 power to weight ratio
Horsepower: 1, Weight: 1 Unit
Do a sur ron or volcon grunt motor swap
@@Acceler2 needs a turbo hayabusa motor
By burning it down to 1 pound of ashes
The changli is now its own unit of measurement for weight
It's always great seeing the whole donut crew together.
i love that theyre a whole ass crew and they all seem like homies
@@alalal123421Just like the Mythbusters. No, they hated each other off camera.
@@phookit2since when 🤔🤔🤔
@desdee7615 since the show ended is pretty much when that all came out. Adam savage even talks about it on his RUclips channel.
@@desdee7615 Everyone mostly got along fine, except for Adam and Jamie. They really did not care for each other one bit.
Can I just say having all the host collaborate on one video is giving me Avenger level excitement, it's cool to see all of them sharing thought in real time.
Donut’s become one of those channels, it doesn’t matter what the video is, they just don’t miss. Love seeing the whole crew together!
If theres no hands-on, issa flop
Petition for a Junkyard challenge with the HiLow teams, each team has to pick a car and make it run and drive
Fire idea
The TV show Junkyard Wars was cool
100%. If they were classic cars it’d be even better
@@xxDOTH3DEWxxBig fan, watched re-runs on RUclips as a kid. The British version was also good, I think it was called scrapheap challenge
I think roadkill did stuff like that and they were great
Finally a game Jerry isn't just crushing everyone else😂
He doesn't seem to understand how to play the game. He guesses higher or lower than everyone despite hearing their guesses first he still goes 100% with his gut.
@@danielkoucky7680 that's because he's entertaining and just trying to have fun
The first game ever
@@danielkoucky7680 he's an engineer or something. I'm sure he was plenty aware of the strategy.
"How are you so bad at this?"
"Hmmm, I don't care"
Absolutely based Jerry
Obviously it's time for Donut to build their first 1000hp monster.
Wouldn’t trust any of those guys with 1000 horsepower
time for them to swap 2 500hp electric motors in the chang lee
@@SavvyMon4I'd trust Nolan, Jerry or Jobe
@@JustinATL I wouldn’t. They can barely handle a third of that power regularly lmao
Or at least there own dyno
It so cool seeing the whole crew together, wish they would do an episode of real mechanic stuff with the whole crew and all the mechanics.
So cool to see you promote Vredestein! I'm Dutch and have been driving Vredestein tires my whole life! Well, first on my bicycle, but after getting my driver's licence on all the cars I owned.
Y’all should do an episode on why different dynos would read different power numbers.
FR
calibration, and different tolerances between models/manufacturers. not much more to it than that. just each brand's secret sauce to give consistent results against itself (with temperature/humidity/baro pressure factoring in too)
aside from engine dynos and hub dynos which would be comparing apples to oranges anyway
Correction factors. The Dyno operator can make it whatever number you want
@@austinh1028 this. On the video it looks like its hot af that day. I believe the different conditions can explain that power difference on subaru easily.
@@lucysmith4242So the dyno operator can make my 94hp car read 400hp if I want?
"We could google it, but we wont!" The moat donut thing ever.
Its more fun to dyno it.
moat
google might show the HP for stock cars but these rides modified asf
google it was not meant to replace the dyno but to cheat
@@geemy9675Yeah, this comment is so dumb lol
@@safwansultan6041did u even watch the video it was about the tacoma and they said the engine was stock
I'm glad Jeremiah didn't do a big brain competitive move and always answer between the other guys guesses so he could never lose.
Yeah, I thought about half way through the video that there's a definite method to not lose, as long as two guys guessed before you...
I was thinking the same thing
i had thought the same thing
this is one of those things where it's not about winning, it's about NOT LOSING!
I am proud of you guys with all these cars. You came a long way .. Although Top Gear and Grand Tour ended and we have amazing memories with them since childhood, I am releaved that you guys are here to take us through our adulthood very swiftly
This dyno was reading SUPER low. And I mean 20-50HP low. Thats not really acceptable for a dyno, and I highly suggest you guys find one thats properly calibrated. Lol.
I loved seeing all of them bois together side by side in one frame in one video.
The true surprise of this video is that they got all those cars working
😂😂😂😂💔
This is a video I've waited for a LONG time. Always wanted to know how strong each and every one of the cars actually are. Thanks for this!
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57 "Stop it. Get some help." - Michael Jordan
17:47 needs to be a donut poster 🔥👌🏽
great clip! Donut Crew are all awesome to watch and when you all in the clip really shows you are all good frineds (or incredible actors.. LOL) Best bit is my dirty old 2006 HSV GTS daily only 4hp off of Low Rexy (when it was new shush) kinda made me happy! love your work! MORE DONUT BABY! lol
Jerry... you're a smart dude. If the goal is not to lose, go for a guess in the middle of the other guys so you can't lose!
obvious hangover
@@gouveiarflfr he looked pretty rough
I think he want to take that chang-li home so bad.
Whoever goes first is at a disadvantage and last at an advantage lol
@natedogg4632 first and second. With no bonus on winning or a locked in guess without hearing the other. But then again it's not as classy as the price is right. It's just donut! 😉
Lol at Nolan's face when a second Dyno setup stole 40hp off his WRX
New dyno ad: 'Highest HP in the tristate area!'
12:50
Was the first dyno run done on a dyno jet? This one is on a Mustang dyno and they always break hearts
@@600wheel had to be originaly on a dyno jet and yeah mustang dynos hurt souls after seeing DJ numbers
Justin just harassing random people about tires is glorious, I would watch an entire video of that lol
so... you don't get tired of it?
:P
@@CorvusCorone68 No way, they could retread it over and over!
I feel like Jerry was actually spot on for most of those, but the dyno is just exceptionally low that day
we NEED more videos with all the boys!!!
You guys should do hi-low foxbodys and drag race them
Up🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That would be dope asf
Yes I was just thinking that. Foxbody or s197.
Love that Jerry is on the ropes, guessing last and always goes to either a low or high extreme. If he had just guessed something between the other scores he would've been fine lol.
Nolan's 0.1 accuracy with the Low Z is wild! 😮😮I loved this video, but I would like to watch the whole dyno videos! 🔥🔥
Love all the boys coming together for a great banter
It’s refreshing to see a quality brand as a RUclips sponsor. The last set of tires I bought were Vredestein Quatracs and they have been by far the best budget tires I’ve ever bought.
Finally ! The video we all have wanted, but that dyno is brutal
Justin is knocking these commercials outta the park recently !!
Good job dude 🎉
i walked around saying "vredestein" all damn day lmao
imagine actually watching an ad and not skipping it lmao
@@JP_A3 that shows ya how good they are at em lol. They add a level of humor and effort that literally no other youtuber do
''Don't judge my car cuz its in Forza'' I love that line I defiantly would have said that 😂😂
Which forza is it???!?-
It was in the donut media event in Forza horizon 5@@max0nily
@@max0nily horizon 5
@@max0nily horizon 5, there's a donut media story, wich added hi and low Z, i think the donut van, and some clothes, also nolan and james made into the game
@@dataman95there is a mission at donut's playlist in the crew that got a hilow featuring 370Zs
i never expected a clip show from Donut, but this was a pretty darn good idea to see all of the classics in one place!
Drag race all of the donut vehicles
Seeing Jerry drive it home would have been the b-roll of our dreams
cool, now do this with your personal cars, like nolan's mustang, james' golf and etc.
It's rare to see the whole crew in one shoot
Ah c’mon I wanted to see Jeremiah drive it home😂
Agreed
I've had Vredestein Quatrac all seasons on my Honda Fit for a couple of years, and I really love them. They're obviously not the best at any one thing, but they do just fine in the summer, and they're fantastic in the winter up here in north Wisconsin. Plus the tread pattern is SICK
donut media in the crew motorfest made the game 10 times better
Honestly and they did it better then forza lol
Ong
Only if it didn't have predatory microtransactions.
As a dutch viewer, the vredestein sponsor segment was amusing
echt
Proud of say I was here for every single one of these builds when you guys bought them! This video is great!
After recently finding these and binge watching these I can confirm the whole thing so far has been a 10/10
Amazing, literally should be in a cinema
4:24 whoever thought of this commercial concept was genius. That name is stuck in my head.
It makes me happy that they now have such a cool collection of cars to do this with after years of making stuff for Donut.
Love seeing the crew together. We need more of this!!!
Never did I expect Donut to be sponsored by Vredestein
Thats not how u say it
Just found your channel tonight. I've been enjoying it. Good job y'all!
Wheel size doesn’t impact power, bigger wheels would affect the final drive ratio and reducing the torque to the wheels.
This is not accounting for parasitic losses of the tire like contact patch area and deformation. These losses shouldn’t be significant though.
I love it when all the hosts are in the same video
After seeing this episode, I would love to see you guys build a high horse power drag car. Maybe do a drag racing edition of Hi-Lo.
I don’t like your idea.
Drag bad aerodynamic good
@@mikailvito7200draggin Deez nuts
I love having all the guys walking around the lot together. Felt like I was apart of voting 😂😂
The Changli has 1500 watts of power? I hate to break it to you, but each one of my electric scooters motors produce the same amount of watts, all for 1300 USD.
Bro strapped the chang li down ☠️☠️☠️
That transition into the sticker pack tee was flawless 🤌🏿🤌🏿🤌🏿🤌🏿🤌🏿
I love me a Donut in the morning. Great content guys. 💪🏼
This video has an awesome "shootin' the sh-t vibe" with the Donut crew. So nice to see all these cars in one video.
I have Vredestein tires on all three of my cars (Audi A4 Quattro, Cadillac XTS AWD, Mazda CX-5 AWD) and my wife and I love them. Best tires in the wet I've ever driven, plus they are quiet and ride and handle better than stock.
Now we need a drag race of all the cars
Yes
the wrx's would win easily. the only competition is the z's, which are set up for drifting
@@dakotajohnson5009 you’re not wrong, it would just be interesting to see where they all end up placing
I was really looking forward to see the Previa round
Donut is like the Red Bull F1 pit crew of changing thumbnails
Yeah I saw that too 😂
You’ve gotta appreciate the time donut put into the video sponsors.. better than usual youtubers that just tell you about the sponsor for 3.5 seconds
Used to have Vredestein tyres on my bicycle back in the day, nice
Damn,never would have thought that that WRX made so much power
As long as you guess between two other people, you cant lose
200 hp in the eg is probably a lot of fun
That is one of the smoothest segways to new merch that I have ever seen. How the hell did you manage to make me want to buy stickers? Whoever made that small segment got talent.
Bot
As a guy working on fixing electric motors and power tools, 1500w is about the same as a cheap grinder (7" bosch are 220-2500 nowadays)
That little civic is every car guy’s dream when we were growing up. Also James did very good at guessing the hrsprs in each car he was the closest in most occasions.
Maybe if your Honda fanboy.
@@LubieOwnic you’re
Every car guys dream car??? You're delusional
LMAO, fuck no. You think I dreamed of having a little 200hp shitbox?
You seem to be thinking of ricers.
Just doesn't seem like a legit donut episode without something breaking
My grandmas wheelchair is rated at 2000Watts I can talk her into selling it to you guys so you can replace the Chang Li.
@Donut now do the same with personal cars.
P.S.- Great sponsor tho, been running Vredestein tires for years on my BMW. If anyone is wondering if they should check them out.. yes, you should. Especially if it rains where you live.
This is pretty entertaining - thanks for bringing this to the channel.
WE LOVE DONUT MEDIA 💜💜
I’m surprised that Jerry lost by so much, he’s usually a god at these guessing games.
Hearing other choices first means you can pick something in the middle and never lose. But this was a fun watch!
true lol they shoulda just counted whoever won
Can’t get over that van it’s sick
It's great I know
The squidward nose on the low z is the best part
Justin is definitely the superior all around show host
You spelt 'James' wrong.
ITS TIME TO SEE THE MOST POWERFUL DONUT CAR, love you guys 😂
Also, sooo shocked that the cutout adds THAT much HP!
I'm honestly surprised they are legal in Cali. They aren't where I live due to noise/pollution ...
@@Idiomatick Even if they're not, you can just build your exhaust with studs on it to mount the cutouts, then put block-off plates if you need it inspected
@@rustler08 Thats a $1000 fine and you could potentially lose your license if you get pulled over for noise and the cop notices.
11:28 woah the brakes
I hate dyno numbers. People always ask me what my car made on the dyno and I always tell them I haven’t got it dynoed because it doesn’t really mean anything. They best way to tell differences in power after mods is differences in running #’s like 1/8th, 1/4, 60-130, and even 0-60 can help.
They always tell me it doesn’t mean anything unless the dyno tells me a # and I’m like wtf. The dyno doesn’t change anything. The car still has the same power. It’s literally just a # to brag about and it could be over inflated or super low depending on dyno and conditions so it doesn’t mean anything.
Day 403 of asking James to do an Up to Speed on his Dad
Bro will NEVER stop
I feel like they call this "stalking" or "harassment" in most states. Fkn creep went all in on riding the Donut coattails.
He will do it one day bro
What a great video idea really loved this one. Wish more creators would do this style vid. Keep up the great content!
I have Vredestein tires on my 2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring and I LOVE them!!! My parents have them on their vehicles as well.
Man I love these guys. They need to do a bunch of wacky side quest antics like make a (joke) spicy calender or form a boyband where they sing catchy pop songs about cars
I love that Donut pimps every single tire manufacturer. Sometimes even two different manufacturers in the same video. Get that bag!
Aaaah just amazing fun seeing the guys just having fun, great entertainment.
I've had to drive loaders and road graders on what would be a 2 hour drive for a car. I don't mind saying, when you're roading heavy equipment, you have looooooots of time to sightsee. Driving your go-kart pretending to be a pickup is probably like that.
I see no one talking about James transformation, keep it up dude!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻✨🎊🙌🏻 I remember the good old days of UP TO SPEED, & the first time he said “LIGHTING!”, “BUFFHORSES”
Time to have tug of war between big D and chang li truck🤣
And ethanol absorbs moisture over time 13:13
Got the subaru right, but thats about it 🤣
As a dutch person i laughed at his "so called" correct pronounciation of Vredestein😂
Went to zumies on vacation and spent way too much on yalls merch lets just say theres a nice new donut sticker on my nc miata
I just got an Xbox and was surprised to see the donut logo on the map while I was playing Forza! The character models are hilariously terrible but regardless it’s so cool you guys made it into the game, I can’t imagine how it must feel to have a car you built be featured in Forza. Awesome job guys
props for that transition close to the end 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One of the best channel out there ! much love !