Exploding Paintball Tanks (This applies only to HPA, not CO2)
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2008
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this video is meant to calm the speculation of what causes paintball tanks to explode.
Putting oil into the fill nipple is what causes paintball tanks to explode.
If your fill nipple is leaking, take it to the store or field for repair. NEVER put oil into the fill nipple, your tank WILL explode.
Hope this helps 
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Thank you fro this video. I heard at my field that i might need to oil the threads to my tank to prevent from leaks and fro more efficiency and then i heard of someone who did this and died. And i was really cautious about this but now you have cleared up this fro me. Appreciate it. I'm a new player and your videos have helped me a lot to get into the sport. People like you are keeping it alive.
P.S. I use Silicon oil as it is non-explosive and a good alternative for a high pressure O-ring lube. With out the silicon oil I have to fix my O-rings every month. With the silicon oil they last for years. I got my silicon oil at HOME DEPOT as a spray can full for $7 bucks.
where u be putting
My most sincere gratitude to you for exposing me to this very real danger. I was having trouble releasing the hose from my air pump and without any consideration, I sprayed some WD 40 around the quick release which was attached to the intake valve (fill nipple). Again, I was trying to disconnect from the tank…what a f****ng idiot I am. Thank the Lord that I ran across your video. I was able to shoot out all the compressed air by attaching the tank to my marker without blowing myself up. That lubricant is petroleum based and Now I understand the potential for a catastrophic accident which I could have easily fallen victim to. Thank you so very much. -SK
out here saving lives
I play Airsoft and run a HPA tank. My threads sound really ruff when I go to put my regulator on. So putting oil on the threads is fine? I heard someone say you should never put oil on the threads.
You can put oil on the threads just never the fill nipple everrrrr you put oil on the fill nipple or even get a drop on it your tank is toast lol
i was just gonna buy a tank for a nerf project where a certain mechanism would have probably got lubricant in the intake line this might have saved me
Use a cotton/carbon filter inline with your pump always! This filters out particulates and H2O from the air. (i understand this may not have been the case back in the day when HPA was a new thing to the sport.)
Any petroleum oil will still diesel at 800psi.... the air rifle community has done extensive testing on this, even with co2 and pump guns. Point here is do your research before messing with stuff you're not an expert on.
I use Silicon oil as it is non-explosive and a good alternative for a high pressure O-ring lube. Without the silicon oil I have to fix my O-rings every month. With the silicon oil they last for years. I got my silicon oil at HOME DEPOT as a spray can full for $7 bucks.
@@johnslugger Hey, I used one of my friends hand pumps to fill up my HPA tank and when I took off the fill hose, silicon oil shot out of the hose and all over my fill nipple. Since then, I have filled my tank up to no more than 1200 psi because people say that it will explode if oil comes in contact with the fill nipple but does this also apply to silicon oil? Is it safe to fill my tank up with more psi or is the tank basically shot now that there is oil inside and I shouldn't try to fill it up again. Any response really helps because its a 90ci 4500 psi carbon fiber ninja tank and it would suck if I had to dispose of it.
Hey, I used one of my friends hand pumps to fill up my HPA tank and when I took off the fill hose, silicon oil shot out of the hose and all over my fill nipple. Since then, I have filled my tank up to no more than 1200 psi because people say that it will explode if oil comes in contact with the fill nipple but does this also apply to silicon oil? Is it safe to fill my tank up with more psi or is the tank basically shot now that there is oil inside and I shouldn't try to fill it up again. Any response really helps because its a 90ci 4500 psi carbon fiber ninja tank and it would suck if I had to dispose of it.
@@johngonzalez3969 You used too much. Also oil does not explode at 4500PSI. This is bullshit. 4500 PSI and 1200 Degrees maybe. Keep in mind 4500 PSI at room temp is fine. Hell a Diesel engine will not even start up without glow plugs. or some kind of preheating. Think about it.
@@johnslugger Sorry, I’m not familiar with diesel engines at all. So it’s still safe to fill it up to 4500 psi even though a bit of silicon oil got into the tank? Because I fear for my like every time I fill it up
You lube your gun not your tank check! Thanks good information. Be safe kids.
How many times has a tank exploded so far due to this? First time hearing about this
This is a very good public service announcement for paintball.
I always cringe when I watch league matches of pros that are IN the industry, only to see guys take a $1500 marker with full tank, and throw it at the ground like a child in a tantrum. Way to represent our sport guys!
YES IT WAS TECHPB
Thanks for this video! I've explained this hundreds of times to people. Two things I'd like to note. One is that yes, get the nipple serviced by a store etc, however, it will have to sit for TWENTY FOUR hours before it can be filled again. Because you have to use some blue locktite on it and it has to cure. Also, for people wondering, the tanks are designed to fail along a seam so that they split and dump the air. They don't tend to frag, but some bits DO still fly away and can cause damage.
The local dive shop will NOT take the valve off of a CF PB tank. They told me that locktiting the valve on them voids the warranty and makes removal often fatal to the tank's threads. Do you know how this is handled normally? I have an 8 year old tank that needs tested and certified, but I cannot get the valve off no matter what I do.
@@LeMortso well, they're right about the locktite. When I was working at my local proshop we always had issues with regulators that came >from the factory< with red locktite in the threads. When/if we could get the regs off, when putting them back in we never used locktite as it really isn't needed. That's a LOT of pressure pushing on those threads and it's MORE than enough to keep it seated correctly.
Look around for a regulator removal tool. You might still find them floating around, not sure if anyone's making them or not. If you have a local pro shop available you could also ask them, most will pop the reg off free of charge. It's just a block with a hole in the middle and some slots in the side that slides down over the reg and lets you get a wrench on one end. If that alone still struggles then you're going to be looking at heating up the locktite, and that's a pain in the butt. I'd honestly suggest sending it to a pro shop that can handle the job as having personally done it WITH proper tools....it's still a pain.
Hey thanks for taking the time to make all of your videos but especially ones like this where it involves the safety of players. I learn a lot from you.
thank you mike for taking the time to do these safety vids
Thanks for the warning man you probably saved some lives but you also just told people how to make an IED...
Lol! Id like to see a terrorist with a 4500psi air compressor strapped to his back and holding an air tank with a drop of oil in the other!
Archer Paintball Not exactly what I meant but lol
So many better options for an ied under most kitchen sinks (or a same day Amazon delivery) than a compressed air tank and oil… most terrorists (suicide bombers) are going for max collateral damage and fatalities. The most a small Compressed air tank explosion will do aside from -maybe- killing you, is popping the eardrums of the dude next to you and giving them a headache. Unless you wrapped it in wax with shrapnel inside it.
Air tanks usually tear when they explode; fragmentation is possible but its not like a grenade
"If you want to turn your tank into a bomb, this is what you do...."
Thanks, Mike.
Thank you for the info. Very helpful for HPA system beginners.
Thanks mike. I aprechiate you taking youre time out of your life to help others. Thanks alot.
58 PBNers hold a grudge more than they care about safety : P
Thanks for the advise man! QUESTION? can we fill regular co2 with hpa??? im mean im sure i can but i mean is it safe?
Mike, thank you for posting videos like this.
Thank you so much, you changed my life !
You know many advice we get by people, well....now i think i will listen to you.
VERY USEFUL REVIEW, thanks for the tip!!!!!!!
I'm kinda really scared
Aj Santos lol me too
Thanks for the information Mike. Good to know.
I feel like I just had a conversation with my dad lol. I love your channel dude
Thanks for the tip, very helpful
Very good introduction..... Nice work.
Good video switching to hpa today!!
Thanks for the warning Mike this is a big help
Thks for the info. Mike, I'll sure pass this info to my pb community
Wow I didn't know this, good thing I watched this BEFORE I bought an HPA tank
thank god for people like mike
@HitaroX awesome!!!!! thanks for the help!!!!!
I didn't know this and i am very happy i watched this video, thank you for doing this video
I have an '08 Ego. The marker shoots great, but if I leave the air on for a while without shooting the marker, it will start leaking a little. It sounds like it is leaking in the frame area. What do you think could be causing this? I'm thinking one of the regs is creeping up in pressure a little. The leak stops when I fire the marker, but will start leaking again if I let it set there for a while,
Actually when I was taking welding courses years ago a guy used his figures to clean the bull connector on an oxygen tank and the natural oil from his fingers, upon opening the tank caused the regulator to explode off with enough force to pass the regulator through a concrete block wall.
Thanks! I thought it would be like Airsoft with greengas mags. man was I wrong. Thanks man. I am planning on doing a fill station and had no clue that lubing the nipple would make it blow up. Thanks again. your videos rock! keep up the good work. -Rot05
well explained, thanks
the nipple joke ran dry about 7 years ago for me
Thanks MIke. I'll look into it.
THANX I'm new to the sport and this helps
Thanks Mike, I'm glad I know this now before I get a HPA tank so I don't accidently blow myself or my paintball field up lol.
LOLOLOL reminds me of the movie "John Dies At The End" when the cop walks into the trailer and says "Your probably wondering what I'm doing with this can of gasoline here", and makes a funny finger gesture at the gas can
Great advice mike butbu got me all paranoid lmao but in a good way keep up the great vids u help a lot
Part of this issue is also novice players not realizing the difference between their ASA and their fill nipple. Lots of manufacturers, tippmann, AGD, spyder, etc, recommend drops of oil in the ASA. People probably just assume the nipple is the same as the ASA.
So I have a ? My bro dropped the tank and it had compressed air. He dropped it about 2 ft so the compressed air came out not sure if it's leaking or if the air just came out ???
Thanks for the warning, I had no idea
i was waiting for you to show the explotion!!!
As a beginner, I'm actually very grateful for videos such as these. Only thing I could remember from the elementary school was not to lubricate valves on OXYGEN tanks. I would probably do, what you said not to do in this vid. Thank you again.
Hey Mike, Im looking at getting a HPA tank to replace my 20oz co2 tank for my 98custom with flatline barrel, i also have a remote coil and a tactical vest that i will put it in, so what size, brand ect. would you recommend? Thanks for your time. james
ohh and i forgot to say thanks for thinking of all ppl when it comes to saftety this vid is going to help alot to some of the newer players
thanks mike i dont want to risk my life to a stupid move mike you vid is going to save alot of paintball players ty
@airsoftremix - to my knowledge no ball manufacturer uses oil in the production. The ball is gel, the fill is a combo of food colouring soap and crayon wax. To be on the safe side - when the tank has pressure, the shuttle valve is closed and it is safe to clean it without fear of getting anything inside the tank. Only when there is no pressure in the tank will the valve be free to shake back and forth. so if dirty and has enough pressure to keep the door closed wash it with warm water and dry it
You do realize at the end of his video he shows a message stating " If your fill nipple is leaking,take it to your local store for repair" and the only reason why a fill nipple o ring would be leaking would be it's worn out.
I have a guardian 68/4500 tank and it is leaking from where the air is supost to come out when shot. It does not leak when on my gun. Help me please!!!!
thanks mike , i love you
this is good information to know.
I had the same problem. it is safe for you to do it on you own. But make sure the tank is 100% EMPTY. Mike has a video showing how to remove the fill nipple. It's titled: CP Tank Fill Nipple - remove the filter. Look for it, it helped me.
Yes, I know this. But what if someone put oil in it, but has NOT filled it? And seriously why would someone thumbs down a perfectly legitimate comment. My point is the entire video says Don't do this without addressing what someone should do if they already did, even if all they should do is never use that tank again. Seems like it might have been useful information to toss in there somewhere, or maybe it was and I missed it?
what it rain got into it or something along that sort and if you were going to buy a used tank would bringing it to a shop before any use be suggested
I was wondering, is it safe to place silicon oil into the On/Off valve of a remote line? I know that it is safe to place in the ASA of a marker. Would the regulator of a HPA tank stop it from getting too much pressure in the remote line to combust the oil? Just want to know before I end up damaging my remote line or worse, myself.
will you get the same velocity on an Etek 2 from a Low pressure tank as you would on a HPA tank?
hey mike i've got a question.
What if somehow you get shot on your fill nipple
and some paint gets in it?
would the best thing to do is clean it with
a q tip?
very informative. Thank You!
your so right you sure know what you are talking about, i wathced loads of yuor videos now
If you are concerned and dont have experience in working with the finer points of HPA, I would suggest you take your tank to an air smith and tell them what happened and that you would like it cleaned. Like most aspects of paintball, most things are rebuildable and everything works best clean anyway.
and thats why i subscribed to you. Thanks.
sweet idea wonder who gave you such an awsome idea,
Great service announcement. Is there a place online where you can get tanks serviced, because my local store is 2hrs away.
Thanks bro i appreciate the tip man!
Can you make a vid on how to change a bord on a paintballgun
good to know, guy at the field was showing me how to remove my tank safely and told me i should not lube the ASA threads cause it may cause it may get inside the tank and cause it to explode when they fill it.
I recently replaced the oring on my fill nipple and put a small amount of Vaseline on the oring. Should I be worried? Thanks!
Yes
TechPB Save Lives :D
Depends what kinda regulator they got at your local field, It's only meant to fill 3000 psi tanks not 4500 psi tanks. They would need to get a regulator that will be able to fill your gun up to it's maximum psi
I have a question, i talked to ninja's technical support and they told me the exact same thing as you, but my tank is actually leaking from the pin, where you put your gun in.. however i hook it up to my air compressor which is only 100 -150 psi. not enough to play with, obviously lol.. but it still leaks quiet a bit. do you think its a missing O ring or just needs more pressure to hold the seal?
@xXcfarmyXx no your good, because hpa gets warmer when you shoot, it will ignite the oil. if it's sand or dirt, it won't explode, but i suggest getting a cap for it, just so it doesnt get dirty
buy the way thanks for talking about the dynasty dvd i whatched it very very help full.
@HitaroX ok so my spyder is broken so im goinf 2 use it for parts. will the asa on/off fit on the proto slg???? and also the clamping feedneck from my spyder?????
Can you oil your threads? And why would you? Also, for maintenance on a marker, what areas should i lube? Thanks!
No need to oil asa or tank threads, just clean them. Oil orings in the gun and moving parts. Your manual will give you the details, if you dont have a manual hit the forums.
whenever you "let the air bleed out" does it go crazy like a co2 tank and like spew out making it able to be airborne and strike somebody in the face? or does it just come out slowly,does it make a loud noise? if your near somebody who does this, can it hurt/kill you? is this the only way a HPA tank can explode?
thx for the tip!!
@sparkycpc I believe the asa from te spyder does fit. And yes the clamping feedneck will fit perfectly.
i have a mini with some trouble with the tank so tommorow if i go to home depot or lowes will they have tri-flow? thx
I've never been to an actual field before but when I fill my tank at my friends, I slowly fill it to 3000. He's never said anything about holding off to 2800. I'm not sure what fields do. But I figured I'd give you some info if it helps or not.
lol good thing i dont use nitro, 1 year in i woulda put oil into the nipple after it leaked... very very very nice video great info... TECH PB saves lives!!!!!!
@paintballtechpb how sensitive is this? If you rub the nipple on your tank with some oil on your hands should you discard the tank? Or is it only when you inject it through the nipple? Thanks.
@paintballtechpb can i take off my tank even if its full and how do i saftly do that?
hey mike, when will the slater super gun show be up?
thats why some tanks come with covers for it and sells a few out there.
if hit hard enough will that cause the HPA to explode? I've heard of this but never really researched it. I was a little worried when I dinged mine of a rock in the snake. (speedball/backwoods field) enough to chip away the paint.
the problem is companys selling you a 4500 psi tank rated for 4500 and the most you get out of a rec filed is 2500 psi.
i have a question about the fact that i have a spyder and i want a rocker trigger should i buy a kingman rocker trigger or just buy a new gun, im looking at a ion with a blackhear ion chip, and can i put co2 in it or do i have to get an adapter, is says it can take hps or co2, so please awnser my question please
Every person who owns a marker and hpa tank should watch this vid or at least get the info, I sure as hell dont wanna be standing next to a guy at the filling station that was dumb enough to oil is fill nipple.
for co2 tanks, because they fill and out air from the same place, is it safe to put lube in ur asa or on the threads of the tank?
I dropped my ninja tank on tiles about from 30 cms, its was empty no air in it at all, is it safe?
maybe try filling it just a tiny bit and see if it leaks? i know the comment was 5 years ago, but did you ever find out?
is it okay to play with the fill nipple protector(the rubber thing on the fill nipple) on? because i have gotten so many answers from this question and i have no clue
Will an HPA tank explode if there is a small dent, or small scratch in the finish? Because I recently bought a ninja dura 68/45 and there is a very small scratch on the coloured coating, it's probably less than a millimeter deep. I just want to be safe, cause im going to play on friday and I need to know if i should return or not.
what about tank-remote with slide check-tank in stock when running low on air in the stock tank? there is a tiny bit of oil going throught the remote into the tank from slide check, is that ok?
is it directly in like shoving it in the fill nipple with the oil or if you a dropping a bit is still bad?