How the Warriors Ruined These NBA Stars Legacies
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- How the Warriors Ruined These NBA Stars Legacies
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Harden, Dame, Westbrook, Lebron, and CP3 all disliked this video. TotallynotKD dislikes this video as well.
Why would they ???
@@mopar_keys You know why.
@@calmdownbruh8518 but I don’t
@@mopar_keys Stay ignorant then.🤷♂️
@@mopar_keyswhat do u think?
The warriors dynasty stopped a lot of players from winning titles or adding more titles to their resumes. The Golden State warriors stopped OKC, the Clippers, The rockets, the blazers from winning anything. Lebron could’ve had 6 titles or maybe more but he doesn’t because of the golden state warriors. Same with MJ, he stopped a lot of teams from winning in his dynasty.
It's crazy to think that Lebron's legacy is safe only because of all he did before the Warriors came around. If he had started playing just a few years later, everyone's opinion on him would be different because there is no chance in hell someone with just 2 rings is in the GOAT conversation.
@@laurocomanwell obviously but that didn’t happen did it.
@@laurocomanI think if Lebron didn’t screw up not winning in 2011 and 2014 people would probably give him a pass not winning in 2017 or 18 when he needed to badly. Cause hypothetically put in perspective he does still win in 2020 as well he’d have 7 rings in total with probably 6 finals mvp(2011 goes to dwade most likely) and the comparison to Jordan would tight knit
@@ssj4goku18825theepicI don’t think lebron had a chance in 2014. The spurs were a monster that year
@@glenntaylor266 I mean it’s not like the heat were pushovers. If anything they would have adjusted too and played their cards right. I could have accepted even then losing in 7 by a close margin but 4-1 is pathetic for a guy at his peak
Man, it's easy to forget how spoiled I was as a Warriors fan all those years. It must have sucked to be a fan of pretty much any other team. 😂
It did tbh 💀😭😭
As a warriors fan, we were pretty spoiled
I loved that, I can talk smack all day and throw in their face that Curry is the best and it’s Curry’s era y’all better bow down and I love when Curry celebrates and know it stings other fan bases 😂😂😂
As a Knick fan, I was happy to see Steph dominate LeBron cuz my Knicks never got anywhere with him in the conference. He was our second Jordan but vulnerable unlike MJ
@@NYCBX9you know its funny how you keep saying Curry curry curry, makes it seem like KD wasnt the one giving him them rings back to back, no matter what happens its like curry can do no wrong huh
I’d say the Warriors dynasty somewhat helped with LeBrons legacy in sense that prior to the rivalry we never seen so much context being used when discussing one’s legacy and now we discuss everyone’s legacy with context
this☝🏽
Fact bro
Facts. Like KD arguably has a better resume than Dirk but I’m still taking Dirk all time bc of how he won that one ring
I feel u, but MJ’s legacy was being disgust decades, before LeBron. MJ was undefeated and was nearly undefeated in the regular seasons. young ppl I tell u😂🤣
actually it’s the other way around helped Steph Curry and GSW legacy has arguably the best team in NBA history LeBron is the media’s darling, so everything is amplified because of him, prior to LeBron facing GSW, GSW they never won anything before. LeBron was the most talked athlete when he went to Miami🤦♂️🤦♂️😂 u gotta be young 😂🤣 he won 2 rings and went to 5 finals before he faced Curry🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️ they were comparing him to Jordan over decade before he faced GSW🤔😤😂. It seem that way to u because they beat a young GSW team in 2016 their second year in the finals that was LeBron’s 7 and 5th straight finals, Curry was in the league for 6 years Klay and Draymond 4 years. LeBron 14 years of experience🤦♂️ LeBron got beat by a young Curry and his young team and he cried literally tears in 2015 after losing to Curry😂🤣he’s talked because he’s getting his beat and he’s supposed to the Goat🤔😂🤣🤣 the Goat is not supposed to get beat 3x by Curry and GSW not only in the finals, but in the regular seasons, Curry has a higher winning percentage over LeBron when facing each other. that’s only reserved for MJ true winner.
0:37 I don’t understand the thought of the Warriors not winning another championship without KD joining they were a game away in 2016 with a lot of factors going against them in those playoffs
It doesnt matter if they were a game away, they still lost. And they lost because Steph and Klay were subpar for most of that series. Not to mention that Steph was terrible in all except one of the Warriors 3 wins in the 2016 finals. They were totally carried by the bench in that series.
@@smoothsavage2870 I’m not gonna lie I’ve recently went back and they’re were a few players that were so ass I didn’t even notice. Steph and klay played poorly obviously like you said but Kevin love was really a non factor in the 2016 finals too fr
@@smoothsavage2870 exactly Steph the unanimous MVP was trash that series, to this day he hasn’t had a series that bad. They were the best team and the fact they were that close despite Steph’s play proves that
If Steph really was traded to the Bucks back in 2012 or 2013 or whatever, it would’ve impacted almost every single finals since 2015
Ain’t go lie GSW vs lakers felt like a real game
Steph and Giannis would’ve been insane
For LBJ, his losses against GS is really unfair because 3 of those loses were either injuries or against thr Big 4. To me, the biggesy knock against his GOAT status was the 2011 loss against the Mavericks
Honestly, if KD didn’t join GSW, LeBron would’ve prolly gotten an extra ring, and u wouldn’t be seein many crapping on his legacy. The unfortunate part is that as a Lakers fan, it’s gonna be hard for him getting his 5th ring. If he retires without it, I think a lotta ppl will look at LeBron’s career funny. The same happened with Wilt when he got compared to Jordan and Kareem
That's the only knock on his legacy idk why his haters always bring up his impressive 4-6 record
Ngl, losing to the 2014 Spurs too. Like, they really couldn’t beat that aging retirement home? 2011 Mavs loss was definitely more embarrassing tho.
@@thesacredflame663 the Heat shat the bed in 2014, but unlike 2011, it wasn’t really all cuz of LeBron, the whole team was imploding. D Wade especially had ugly moments in that run. Plus the Spurs were a DAMN good team at that time, they almost killed em back in 2013.
Definitely 2011 you can see it changed him for the better
Kevin Durant winning 2 Finals MVPs with the Warriors was the best thing for his career. He would be on a list with Charles Barkley, Allen Iverson, John Stockton and 13, all ringless players
Keep living in utter delusion 😂 😂
@@curtiszyr what year would he win a championship in OKC? Let's see who the delusional one really is
@@curtiszyr Still waiting
Exactly. He wasnt going to do anything with Russ as his teammate. They've been talking about Russ shooting you out of games since NBA 2K12. He needed somebody more effective and it just so happened that Steph was recruiting him. Steph to this day still talks about trying to play with KD again. But when he was asked if he wanted to play with Lebron, he said he doesnt want to.
@@i_l96 It’s easy to say it in hindsight but like the video said okc saw success prior to kd leaving. If that 2016 okc just won one more game I believe they actually win it all that year. Hell they probably could’ve won the next year if kd resigned because that roster was going to see some serious change
Let’s leave out the fact that James harden won way more games than the Lebron cavs did vs the warriors lol
Nah I've been sayin this since 2019 he dont wanna bring out them fan girls that really piss them off 😂😂😂 James harden definitely the most impacted I mean to have a nearly 50% chance and u lose 4 times is kinda crazy he really landed tails 4 times 😂😂😂😂
@@wereallyrollin6680 wtf are you babbling about. The original comment said harden won more games as if that actually Matt because the end result was always a LOSS. Meanwhile bron actually got this thing called a CHAMPIONSHIP from actually beating the warriors
Yea, Chris Paul wasn’t there, plus the rockets are a better matchup
@@chilldoc9638 remember when Kd wasn’t there and the warriors won anyway….
the next year kd wasnt there and harden still lost. the problem is harden was never statistically superior to everyone he just had an amazing team. bron literally played like a demi god and still lost@@chilldoc9638
Good video. You should do one on how Lebron’s streak going to final affected other great players legacies. His teams mostly have always been expected to go to
The finals so that means some great players in his conference missed out on adding to their legacies.
The most affected by Golden State besides LeBron is Kevin Durant. Bro basically snaked OKC and made the weakest move in NBA history to get 2 championshipd and 2 finals mvps just to not win post GS and get swept by the team that the Warriors beat in the finals.
He was a free agent 😭 getting swept is literally nothing . Lakers got swept by Denver but they beat the same championship warriors team. 😂
FACTS!!!!
LeBron gave validation to "super team".
GSW panicked/chickened out and signed KD!
THEY ARE AS BAD AS EACH OTHER!!!
@@darrengordon-hill we hear you Stephen A 😂
You cant snake a team if you're a free agent my guy. At that point he didnt owe OKC a damn thing. It was the greatest move to give Lebron and his Cavs superteam some actual competition since the East was too damn weak to do it. BTW his career is still ongoing. We dont know what the future holds for him on the Suns. All you can really do is say "well i dont think he'll win with them", but that doesnt mean that he wont. And if he does, that destroys all these baseless narratives.
@@smoothsavage2870 Here you bron hating gremlins go with that “east is weak” bs lol it’s not brons fault he dominated your poverty franchises. Even after Kyrie left he still made the finals against the 1st seeded raptors and swept them and swept the 1st seeded hawks in 2015 with him as well you fuvkin casual
The Warriors became the team LeBron thought Miami would be
FACTS . But you see how LeBron fans make excuses when LeBron has to play superteams but they don't say anything when LeBron on the best teams .
@@ThePlugOfTheBronx so you are saying that Lebron had to stay in cleveland lol its like saying a baby had to suck milk for there whole life
@@xtucs i never said that . I said lebron forms supersteams and his fans still make excuses after he loses . No one said he had to stay in Cleveland just stop making excuses for his losses after he left in 2010.
@@ThePlugOfTheBronx the heat aren't even close to the warriors with kd, the warriors are the greatest team of all time, the heat had an older wade and bosh
Obviously swishout didn’t mean they literally ruined LeBrons legacy lol but I would phrase it like this. They made his legacy way more complex. There’s so much context to a lot of his losses that I get why some revert to just acting like he simply didn’t get it done despite the all time performances.
But context is never applied when the warriors loose.
@@kohsmoger1567what context
@@chewhatif4745 When the warriors lost in 2019 and 2016 due to injuries, suspensions or both
@@kohsmoger1567 2016 warriors had 2 chances to clinch after that suspension, that is not enough. 2019 i MIGHT give them, but they were so stacked that even without KD they had more than enough to win, it was the Klay loss that did them in at the end.
@@euro51116 Steph wasn’t a 60 percent in 2016, bogut went down when draymond got suspended for the rest of the series, iggy through out his back and ezeli came into the series hurt. As for 2019 it’s obvious Durant and klay going down made a massive difference and the warriors were top heavy so any of the starters missing is noticed.
I think you missed the fact that the warriors also drastically elevated bron's legacy tenfold as well. That one ring in 2016 is legendary coming back 3-1 against the best regular season team of all time. Most barely had bron top 10 after miami but after that ring and what he did in the 2018 post season, he rose up the charts on the top 10 list.
Not when he did it tho.
Only when nick wright said it retrospectively.
Nobody was elevating him that much after the finals. It became crazy AFTER the summer.
@@cyrillechristophe9731nah a lot more ppl started really thinking bron was the actual goat immediately after that finals or at least was solidified as top 5
@@confessionsofamoviefreak9580tell me how he was ahead of kareem, magic, bird, etc
@@confessionsofamoviefreak9580 he was not a definitive top 5 in peoples eyes you clown and people were still giving him slack for Cleveland so when he came back and won with his original team peoples view changed
@@cyrillechristophe9731 Idk what you’re babbling about but nick wright did not elevate this man and then everyone started agreeing people we’re already having top 3 all time right after the comeback
More like the warriors cemented their legacy and wrote the right history
Klay and Draymond playing more playoff games than curry all time is an interesting stat. But then again steph did sprain his MCL In 2016 vs the rockets.
I truly think that If russ and KD ran it back with OKC I think they would've made the finals at least once during that goldenstate Era
And they would've lost and it would've been the same reason they lost in 2012. Russ's bad decision-making, bad shot selection and low IQ. OKC screwed up not keeping Harden to help space the floor for KD.
@@smoothsavage2870i disagree. They would really make a difference this time
It’s weird cause they kinda put LeBron in that GOAT debate but also made it harder
LeBron set himself up for a lot of that, too. Remember the summer after the 2016 Finals? "That one right there made me the greatest of all time." "Chasing that ghost in Chicago"? He was all about those comparisons before his Cavs got humbled two years in a row
@@c.moriarty1178 Well I don’t fault him for talking shit, the best do. It’s simply the fact that he bleeds and Jordan doesnt.
This discussion video is the best fr fr.
In terms of legacy, I don't think the warriors ruined Lebron's legacy. Though it definitely made it more interesting.
I think what he means is that if not for the warriors Bron would've won more rings
@@leeyongpong3578Exactly
@@leeyongpong3578 that doesn’t mean his legacy is “ruined” lebron got a ring against them in the best comeback ever against the best regular season of all time. Prior to that ring bron was barely top 10 in most eyes but after 2016 he elevated all the way to top 3-5
@@impacc4182 I didn't said it ruined it legacy , but if not for the warriors he might have win more rings ,that will improve his legacy even more . With this extra rings , he can easily challenge Jordan for the GOAT title
@@impacc4182 nah even before that GS ring the GOAT convo started brewing between him MJ after his Miami tenure. This ring is when people started way more serious discussions about it
Great video. A friend said you emphasized the end of your words and now I can’t un-hear it
Always a good day when SWISHOUT uploads!
Excellent video! 👍
As a Kyrie fan, I wanna upgrade that comparison to KD vs LeBron lol
Mr. Swishout, thank you for this video hug 😉❤️
3:46 that little chuckle u made when CP3 got crossed up 😂🤣🤣
Warriors did it!! 👍👏🔥🔥❤️❤️
The combination of CP 3, TJD, JK and Dario Saric is exactly what is needed for Warriors, mainly for the non-Steph minutes. If they manage to win those or at least not lose them too heavily, they're in really good shape!! 🙏🙏👍👏
I see this comment everywhere I go. Please save me
@@danyaljeff it's cause I'm everywhere on Warrior related videos, sorry! 😅🙈
To be fair, it's been at least two weeks since I posted it (I think 😅🙈)!
Good luck with all that 🤣🤣
@@danyaljeffBronsexual
This team is not winning a championship
It’s very possible that Cavs warriors would have been in the running for greatest rivalry ever if KD never joined.
I say this all the time KD ruined bron vs curry rivalry it would of been magic vs bird all over again
But Lebron is a GOAT..KD should not be the factor that stopped him. Those teams were more balanced than people think and admit because that might tanish Lebrons legacy
@@thegame7557 More balanced than people think? Who were the best players on Lebron's teams in the finals of 2015 and 2018?
@@godofwarrio9086 KD wasn't with the warriors in 2015. People speak as if KD played for the warriors for five years while he only made it to the finals in two years before going down in 2019. The 2017 team Cavs team was on par with the warriors.
@@thegame7557 lol, the 2017 cavaliers were not really on par with the warriors. The addition of KD completely tipped the scales and no one can deny that. A 73-9 team getting KD is not equal to Bron, Love and Kyrie.
nice little audio hug in the beginning
That CP3 video of him talking about warriors hits different now
Lbj was getting exposed 2017-2018 by KD
Lebron was by far the best player in the league 😂😂😂
@@chilldoc9638 no he wasn’t lol KD made back to back daggers in lbj face😂
you earned yourself a subscriber with that last segment on lebron he is the GOAT
0:58 man sounds heartbroken about it… funny he’s on that team now Lmao
We saw what happened when Bron saw Steph this year.
I felt like that playoff series to me, was going to be a make or break for bron and curry's rivalry and career in my eyes
Not at all but sure how ever u wanna justify it. No one came to help Steph on offense except for avg 15 from Wiggins. This wasn’t even close to prime Klay. Draymond has always been the defensive facilitator. Andre is pretty old now
You mean when AD saw the warriors. Get off your knees
Let's be real it was cause of ad why you all that run
@@thatman8636 what goes around comes around, AD lost 2 times to warriors without a liable scoring 2nd optional guy, bron also has lost to warriors with subpar teams, this is karma, and giving warriors a taste of what has been happening since their entire dominant run
I see this as an absolute win
4:46 miss 27 straight threes
Ringless.. haha forgot about that
12 This is my commandment: Love each other in the same way I have loved you. (John 15:12 NLT)
Haven’t even finished watching it yet but I know it’s fina be a dope video💫🔥💯
Good vid
Damn what's this beat? Flames
When the warriors win "it doesnt mean anything , context matters , they stacked the deck etc, most arrogant team in sports, front runners 🥱.
When the warriors lose " ohmergerd they beat the warriors, the *INSERT YOUR FAVORITE TEAM* is the Greatest team ever now, dude they beat steph yeah that STEPH of course INSERT FAVORITE PLAYER is top 10 maybe even top 5 now.
Gsw only ever got acknowledged when they lost , context was always thrown out the window with them. 😅
When they win: championship DNA
When they lose: we have 4 rings
🤦🏾♂️
I respect KD as a generational talent but damn, I hate his decision even to this day. IMO if LeBron was able to tie MJs rings he would be considered the GOAT for much more people.
Lebron joined the miami heat he basically did the same thing no different they destroyed the league did they not
@@christopherbrown5269 LeBron didn’t join a team that won 73 games, he built a new team. If you watched the Heat team days you would not be saying that nonsense, the league was way more competitive back then.
@@Yulz553 It don't matter if that team won 73 games or not you bozo he still joined a superteam all while losing to a aging dirk it ain't no mystery that lebron is the general manager hiring manager agent all in one while playing in any uniform for any organization
Dame played the KD warriors twice. In 2017, when they got swept in the first round.
3:12 is so funny, Steph putting his hand up because it was miss.
Coaching record playoff wise
That steph and kyrie skill post on twitter, I literally gave an article why steph is more skilled and why it’s not that close
What is" skill" for you?
Swish a J. Cole and Kendrick fan fr
If KD never joined them, Bron would have 6 rings already. He’s not losing in 2017 with Kyrie and that Cavs team. Maaaaybe 2018 against the rockets but Harden chokes
I think all big men were impacted... Since now teams tend to build around guards trying to emulate gsw
glad to see another video on here bro, but we gon need the next one soon tho… the devil works hard, but swishout works harder🙏🏾🙏🏾
I need my man to let us know what background music he uses lol
Gw win against the Boston Celtics proved that the Warriors did not need Katie
Yeah because tatumn and brown or the equivalent talent as bron and kyrie😂m0r0n
Terrible example
Finally somebody says it 👏
You should do this same video but for the 90s Bulls! I heard a song with a skit at the end about how Jordan ruined so many legacies lol. I can share the song as well if that would help!
I feel like it's specifically Charles Barkley for some reason. Nobody really faults Magic for losing to MJ, Clyde Drexler is kind of forgettable and won in Houston anyway, Gary Payton's legacy isn't really locked in a rings debate and he also later won, and I think it's fair to say that Karl Malone and John Stockton kind of tarnished their own legacies off the court lol.
Jordan didn't ruin anything it’s the BULLS that ruined all those players legacies. You Jordan stans give him way to much credit.That's like saying this video should be named all the legacies "curry" ruined when we know it was the warriors as a whole.
Dray really needs to leave with his statement.
80's - Magic/Bird
90's - JORDAN
00's - Kobe/Shaq/Spurs
10's - Lebron/Steph Warriors
20's - Jokic/Giannis/Luka?
Kobe won 4 championships and went to 6 finals in the 2000’s while individually being the best player for the most part throughout the decade compared to Shaq’s 4 championships in 5 finals while only being the best player for less than half the decade then Duncan winning 3 in 3 finals while never really being considered the best throughout the decade. I think Kobe would secure having the 2000’s as his era.
Lebron won the same amount of championships as the Warriors did in the 2010’s but also went to double the amount of finals, I’d say 2010’s would fall under Lebron’s era primarily with that context.
@@YungLanxx The first paragraph of your comment has me confused. Kobe was definitely not the best definitive best player in the 2000s. Similar to what you said about shaq only dominating in the early half can easily be said for kobe since he only dominated in the later half of the decade. Therefore the original comment is right it would be a combination of duncan, kobe, shaq, and maybe a young lebron maybe.
@@impacc4182 Kobe had the most years as the best player arguably from 04 to 09, but that was one aspect of multiple examples I brought up which I mentioned before time being the individual best player in the decade. Kobe individually has the most rings and finals appearances, that’s a fact. Can you at least dispute the other things I prioritized for my point if you wanna debate my overall opinion?
@@YungLanxx Ok stop it kobe was definetly not the best player from 04 to 09. Lebron, d wade, hell even dirk were dominating in that span. Kobe only has 1 mvp in that time so how could he be the "player of the decade" Shaq actually 3 peated and won a ring afterwards meanwile kobe only won 2 in the last 2 years of the 2000s. Those finals you keep naming kobe made shaq was apart of half of them and he won finals mvp for all 3 of those rings he played with kobe.
Include Luka in 20s that has never been to the finals never led the league in scoring, assist or win mvp. But exclude Durant from 10s who was arguably the second best player behind lebron is crazy 😂
Destroyed clippers most of those 10 games too
I’m saying tho 💀😭😭
Golden state has prevented many teams from winning the title and enchanting superstars legacy’s lebron KD cp3 kawhi dame harden Westbrook kyrie A.D they beaten the pelicans grizzlies rockets blazers OKC jazz spurs clippers nuggets mavericks all in the playoffs including Cleveland and Boston
the only proper team they beat was thunder and cavs, and maybe celtics, then there is rockets would foolish playstyle, 2019 specifically and game 7 of 2018, the rest were easy money, including rockets without cp3
In Lebrons casez they literally were too strong of a team, if you take sams strength team as warriors, Lebron beats them. They were just good team, even tho refs let Green foul a lot without a call
I wouldn’t say they ruined LeBron James' legacy. But they definitely put a stain on his shit. And I’m a LeBron fan. LeBron had trouble with the spurs to.
I agree with you about Dame, Harden, CP3, and KD. However, I disagree with you about Kyrie, LeBron, and Westbrook. I'm not a LeBron fan but LeBron is still fine legacy wise no matter what haters say. Kyrie legacy is just that one shot he hit in 2016 and the rest of it is the drama caused by himself, not by the Warriors. Lastly, with Westbrook, I respect him, but he plays too reckless, and we know by now you can't win a championship with him as your point guard and his play style. You will make the playoffs, but you ain't winning a championship unless Westbrook is willing to sacrifice.
Agreed with what you said about bron and kyrie but your comment on westbrook is literally what was described in the video
Lebron is fine legacy-wise, he just doesnt have a good case against MJ in the GOAT debate.
@@smoothsavage2870 Oh he definitely does, I believe that’s why he’s so hated till this day. You Jordan stans are threatened by him possibly getting 2 more rings and maybe 2 more finals mvps. If bron gets those he would undoubtedly be the goat in basketball
@@impacc4182 Lebron would only have a case against the GOAT if he wasnt team stacking since 2010. MJ wasnt weak enough to do that, so Lebron will always be lesser than him. Idc about front office excuses. MJ stayed 10 toes down and got it done 6x with ONE all star his whole career. MJ's 2nd option never averaged 25+ while Lebron has had at least 3 or 4 players who have done that. You can only compare MJ with those that came before him. Lebron will never be on his level.
@@smoothsavage2870 Oh you’re of those. “bRoN iNvEnTeD sUpErTeAmS hE rAn fRoM tHe gRiNd” you jordan dik riders are hilarious 😂 bron went to the finals at 22 with no other star and made multiple conference finals. Unlike the bulls that saved mj’s ass from future first round sweeps with Phil Jackson, rodman, pippen, Claxton, kerr, etc. the cavs gave lebron Mo Williams, larry hughes and washed up shaq and again he still made the finals. But let me guess? “The east was weak”. Then he only went to miami because the Celtics big 3 dominated the east. Had he stayed they never would’ve gotten Kyrie and his career would’ve rotted in Cleveland like dames. You bron haters are different breed of slow he has 3 finals mvps with 3 different teams if it was so easy everyone would be doing it
The Bulls did the same thing in the '90s too. They snatched a lot of souls as well, it is what it is, that's what competition is, if you not willing to stoop to their level, that's fine but don't complain it's hard to win. Dame played himself, by demanding a trade, he retroactively proved that the whole time he was in Portland he was a waste, he wasn't loyal, he was comfortable, there's a big difference.
That was perfectly stated 💯
Fire 🔥
Fax nigga wanted to be loyal and "nOT rUn fRoM tHe gRiNd" and ended up still leaving lol loyalty is a joke and it stained his career
The only reason and I mean ONLY reason that harden doesn’t have a ring, is because of the warriors getting kd. We woulda beat them in 2017, 2018, and 2019
That’s tuff
Talking about Bron, when I see those memes like "best team in MJ era (Bulls), best team in Kobe era (Lakers) and best team in Bron era (gsw)" i always think "ehy this is not a downside of lebron legacy, it's the opposite. He is in the goat debate even without playing in the best team of his era". What do you think about that? Should we change our point of view about this or am I totally wrong about that?
The Spurs we're the best team in the Kobe era and Kobe isn't even in the goat debate. Goat debate is between individuals not teams
@@BIuezyHow were the Spurs the best team in Kobe’s era when Kobe won 4 titles from 2000-2009 when Duncan only won 3
@@BIuezyAnd before you push than “Duncan won 2 Finals MVPs” argument remember Duncan wasn’t finals MVP in 2007 and arguably didn’t deserve Finals MVP in 2005 against the Pistons
KD and the Warriors messed up a great and legit cavs warriors dynasty. and Kyrie mightve stayed had KD not went there
There was nothing legit about that "rivalry". One team was a built team (GSW), the other was a bought superteam (Cavs). KD made it even and more enjoyable to watch.
The best dynasty this century!! Destroyed everyone’s legacies!!
Didn’t Destroy anyone’s legs bro what 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
San Antonio?
i dont think san antonio went 73-9 and changed the way teams and players operate@@thabofinca3377
@@thabofinca3377they never went back to back Lakers>>>>>
They never destroyed LeBron's legacy lmaoo, many people talks about Bron 2007 and 2018 carry job to the finals than the warriors 2 rings
Harden could very well have chocked against any other opponent as well.
If you lost, you lost. Stop saying losing better elevates careers.
Swishout loves that clip of cp3 talking about the warriors 🤣
nah fr
Harden cuz he was always the closest to beating GS. CP3, Westbrick, and Dame never had a realistic chance of winning even if GS wasn’t in their way.
The 2017/18 Rockets were special and I miss it
harden lost to a curry-less warriors, and it wasn't even a close series, was never close until he got cp3, but that goes to show you the comp warriors played against
Westbrook put some respect on his name you keyboard warrior couch potato
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After Golden state wins another ring, Draymond will push Cp3 away... same old Draymond
i doubt it, both are headed towards the decline
Fair or not that’s just how it is? This is how u look at the goat convo when u have a closed mind.
now tha i think about of kd hadnt join lebron would have possibly 3 peahed along wit 2015 if kyrie n love aint get injured tgas 4 chips inna row
this is pushin it buh lebron wpuld have beat the 2019 warriors of he stayed on the cavs😭
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LB-4-LB , Stephen Curry , {Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant, LeBron James}
Bro y don’t u upload consistently 😭🤦🏾♂️
The counterintuitive, yet brilliant decision, by Curry to accept KD , sets Curry above and beyond other superstars, who , historically, would not sublimate their egos and accept a better player {arguably} on their team in pursuit of NBA Championships! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
So you admit durant is better than curry, yet are also saying that curry is better than everyone else cus he let kd on his team?
@@Mdksupreme1 NO‼The operative word[s] are 'arguably' and 'sets #30 above and beyond'; one other example: Wade and Lebron
Does Dame make the HOF?
Woah wait what about the spu...naw jk that curry and kerr team up was scary
things would have been waaaay more lebron destroys all.
9:38 Jordan only went to the finals 6 times….
Lebronze didn't need GSW to ruin his legacy. He managed to do this fine all by himself, by getting embarrassed twice with Team USA!!
Kyrie & Steph are they closer comparison then bron & melo. when it comes to performing things that matter. The only thing melo was better than LeBron it was his shooting midrange percentage, 3s
It’s not “kd warriors” it’s the Steph warriors with kd😂😂
KD won 2 finals mvp over Steh
@@BIuezy Steph won two without kd!!! What has kd accomplished?😭😭😭
Bro said a dude with one fmvp ruined legacies 😂
Kyrie didn’t get swept in Cleveland 🥹🤓
He still got swept 😅
Warriors blew a 3 1 league then cried to get KD. They didn't hurt no nobody legacy lol
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Anthony Davis. 2015 and 2018
prob cause his team was trash, 2015 was a g league team and would have lost to grizzlies, 2018 no demarcus, and would have lost to rockets, makes no difference
Well To Be Honest I Know We Talking Superstars But The Entire League Had To Ajust Their Roster To Play Like Golden State. Soooo I Would Say the Entire League
Great video idea. Would love to see Lakers era and bulls era
I don’t think it ruined Lebron’s legacy because people right now have him top 5. Many have him top 2. Another way to look at is, he was so good that they had to go get KD.
Didn't LeBron have to go get dwade and bosh?
@@ThePlugOfTheBronx yep, he did. And what did he do after he left Dwade and Bosh? What has KD done since he left Steph? Compare the OKC teams KD had to the Cavs teams Lebron had his first run with the Cavs
@@Thrivel when kd was about to win a ring in 2012 he had to face lebron's Miami superteam. KD team wasn't good enough to beat the heat big 3 bro 💀. This led to kd joining a good team to face lebron .
@@ThePlugOfTheBronx you’re missing the point. KD went on to become an MVP after that 2012 Finals loss. Russell became a top 10-15 player in the league after that finals loss. Even though Harden left, that team was good enough to get to the Finals again and win. They didn’t. That’s on him and Westbrook.
I'm going to say this.... The Warriors didn't kill The Game because of shooting more 3s. Remember before Durant even entered GSW, their passing was already destructive.
Yes, even without Durant GSW would still have won two more championships against Lebron. Again their passing and shooting...
The only reason why GSW was to be blamed is because of players shooting too much 3s (or hero balling) . Yes I'm looking at you James Harden. Pressure against The perimeter has been ignored.
And it’s unanimously harden and bron for who had to go thru the most because of gsw😂😂😂
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Draymond cappin every time he opens his mouth.
Every single time. The last comment he made was just ludicrous. I get it that you're trying to look out for your boy KD after you all just won another chip without him, but the very fact that you won a chip with a good, not great SF in Wiggins only proves that you could win more without him.
Bronsexuals do the same thing when thinking Bron is next to MJ and not Kobe or Kareem.
@@remnant8898 If you take out the 2017,2018, and 2019 finals that means they would have only won one ring all the way in 2022 with your dumb logic lol they needed kd to beat the cavs and rockets and possibly the raptors not no wiggins you goof
@@look-at-curry-man2206 One thing we know steph ain;t close to any of the players you just named now wipe your mouth
@@impacc4182 When did I say he was, fix your eyes.
KD isn't a alpha. He ruined his legacy by joining the Warriors. It's funny to me how OKC drafted 3 superstars who all won an MVP, but they all failed to a win a championship.
KDs rings don't count in my book 🤷♂️
Harden chokes when it matters most. Every Rockets player that played in the 2018 WCF game 7 AND D'Antoni get the blame for losing the second half.
Westbrook can get you to the playoffs (he's sole reason Washington had a chance of making the play-in), but you can't win a chip with him.
CP made the finals after KD left Golden State, and LOST that's not Golden State's problem.
Also, it's not their fault Clippers choked against Houston in 2015 🤷♂️