GINAULT OCEAN ROVER 2 // BETTER THAN EVER BEFORE

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  • @markstanton63
    @markstanton63 4 года назад +32

    Looks even better than the Rolex ... they've nailed it

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe 4 года назад +39

    I have over 50 watches incl Rolex, Omega, Zenith, Longines, Doxa etc. And a Ginault Ocean Rover 1. The Ginault is as well built as a genuine Rolex, despite all the hating against the brand.

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +6

      This is exactly what I am talking about! Thank you for sharing your experience. The Ginault watches are so impressive and you can definitely see and feel the quality. I'm glad you love your Ginault as much as I do.
      Thanks for watching.
      -Jon

    • @pauljackson6593
      @pauljackson6593 4 года назад

      Lol you are joking!!!

    • @apostolosgalimanas8274
      @apostolosgalimanas8274 4 года назад

      You think it's built like Rolex?

    • @morphilou
      @morphilou 3 года назад

      @@apostolosgalimanas8274 rolex 1960-2000 ==> no
      rolex after 2000 ==> yes
      the ginault is 95% quality modern rolex

    • @Bmw2473
      @Bmw2473 2 года назад +1

      I have a early made ginault and handled a Rolex gmt and have to say the Rolex has a better finish on everything but it’s almost a lot more $$ I wear my ginault all the time and it’s a solid watch that is finished very well for it’s price point if that makes sense.

  • @SunsetSheen
    @SunsetSheen 4 года назад +24

    They need to cut the text down to 2 lines. Would make the dial so much cleaner.
    The flat sapphire, ceramic insert, and sword hands are all great touches 👍🏼

    • @valeryt1997
      @valeryt1997 5 месяцев назад

      Personally enjoy the busy text dial. To each their own

  • @lukedef1736
    @lukedef1736 4 года назад +19

    I’ve been searching for a quality watch for a long time and this watch has blown me away! Yes it rips off Rolex but that’s because Rolex is the most sought after watch with arguably the best design, bracelet and clasp in history. Everything about this watch looks perfect, and if Rolex released this as their new sub excluding the red second hand it’d probably be easier to get a Pepsi GMT! Not everyone can drop £7500 on a watch. When I receive this watch I’ll wear it with pride and knowing that I didn’t take out a loan to buy it will make it all the better. Great review btw.

    • @maffintono7790
      @maffintono7790 2 года назад +1

      Yes they can drop 7500.. after a waiting list of 5 years.. and then maybe you could get it.

    • @NiallDempsey-jp7fl
      @NiallDempsey-jp7fl 5 месяцев назад

      Not to mention rolex being arguably the biggest rip-off watch company whom have been ripping people off for decades and are stil trying to increase their prices their greed knows no bounds!😡

  • @ModernRegimen
    @ModernRegimen 4 года назад +2

    The vids just keep getting better and better, man. Honestly. Such a beautiful watch. They’re really providing value with the chronometer accuracy and depth capabilities.

  • @harryschaffner4644
    @harryschaffner4644 4 года назад +5

    This got me to sign up for the wait list. Very thorough review.

    • @killa49a
      @killa49a 4 года назад +1

      where to signup for the wait list for OR2 Smurf?

    • @harryschaffner4644
      @harryschaffner4644 4 года назад +1

      @@killa49a waitning for OR 2 Smerf.

  • @mrbacchus6127
    @mrbacchus6127 4 года назад +13

    Sword hands > Mercedes

  • @billhart
    @billhart 4 года назад +12

    Great review man. I've had my OR II for a year now and it is on my wrist 95% of the time. What's significant about that is that my other two watches are a Tudor Black Bay Heritage and a Rolex Exp II 216570 (my grail watch.) Ginault has created a milsub "greatest hits" watch that makes me smile every day.

    • @sheldonsplace4511
      @sheldonsplace4511 4 года назад +1

      Was think of the black bay 58 blue strap do you think the finally is better ?

  • @yashara1e
    @yashara1e 4 года назад +4

    Keep up the good work man, you are doing some of the best reviews on RUclips

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад

      That's so kind of you to say. I'm glad you like the reviews!
      And thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @marvoski547
    @marvoski547 4 года назад +5

    Damn it dude! I want one now. My wife’s not gonna be happy lol

  • @johnsmithGMAiL8888
    @johnsmithGMAiL8888 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this Sir. Well articulated, and very balanced, with lots of informative factual information. Thank you again -

  • @deeno1114
    @deeno1114 4 года назад +5

    My OR1 has been on my wrist for over a year and a half and keeps +1 a day. I will definitely be grabbing an OR2. The quality is tough to beat.

  • @anj4de
    @anj4de 11 месяцев назад

    Very nice...I like the MilSub look that is now even closer then on the V1

  • @Atlas_Max11
    @Atlas_Max11 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for sharing your video. You write and produce well made content. I've been happy getting my ORII and honestly it has made me second guess myself from getting a 5 digit submariner. Keep up the great, unbiased work!

    • @voidboy9862
      @voidboy9862 4 года назад +3

      Couldn’t agree more, you get so much with this watch for what you pay.

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @sheldonsplace4511
    @sheldonsplace4511 4 года назад +4

    man that sweater, the haircut and watch combo

  • @tatlertom3090
    @tatlertom3090 3 года назад +2

    which one on their pretty absurd website is the "2?" ginault website is a flat out pain in the ass.

  • @michaelm9871
    @michaelm9871 2 года назад +1

    The time certification at 2:26 says "The goal is to regular every one of our movement's" not "regulate"... kinda suspect imo.

  • @kevinkoberg4506
    @kevinkoberg4506 2 года назад +1

    Great review! The Ginault website seems to be kind of a mess. Any ideas on the best place to shop for and possibly purchase the no date, black ceramic with blue lume?

  • @consumerthis3169
    @consumerthis3169 4 года назад +1

    I’m fortunate enough to have any watch I desire honestly, but part of that is because I can’t justify the cost of a Rolex. Not saying the price is wrong, there are precious metals and lots of time being used to make them, but they are making major margins . I think I will purchase one of these Ginaults and I would never have known they existed unless RUclips was here. Made in America too, will be different than all my Swiss made ones

  • @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571
    @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 4 года назад +3

    Truely love the level of quality and details of your videos. Been following your channel and love it!!! Great job!

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Brad. I really appreciate that.
      Thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @Amir_I
    @Amir_I 3 года назад +1

    I love and I want to buy ginault … but they have wait list you must wait 3-4 months … it’s bad

    • @SublowGaming
      @SublowGaming 2 года назад

      Not as bad as a Rolex wait list. I hope you pulled the trigger... So worth it!!

  • @Blue_3rd
    @Blue_3rd 4 года назад +3

    Nice review. I like it although I wish it didn’t have the spec sheet on the dial. What’s wrong with just the brand and model? I would prefer a slightly wider minute hand too. Cheers for the video!

    • @Markisflippinsweet
      @Markisflippinsweet 3 года назад +1

      Probably just trying to match the text lines on the current Sub.

    • @Blue_3rd
      @Blue_3rd 3 года назад

      @@Markisflippinsweet Exactly - too much for me though. Cheers 😃

  • @jwags24
    @jwags24 4 года назад +9

    Man, your reviews are so well done. The Don Draper of watches.

  • @dorningarts
    @dorningarts 4 года назад +3

    Looks so great, what is your wrist size for reference?

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +2

      Hi GLD Edmond,
      My wrist measures 7in / 18cm. Let me know if you need anything else.
      Thanks for watching!
      -Jon

  • @teecee9660
    @teecee9660 2 года назад +1

    went to their website, seems like they are sold out of everything...?

  • @deeno1114
    @deeno1114 4 года назад +1

    I have a OR2 no date sand lume being delivered today. I had the OR1 for a year and a half and it was an incredible watch.

  • @piso11studio47
    @piso11studio47 4 года назад

    which would look better? Black bezel and white lume or Blue bezel and gold sand lume? great review

  • @JM-rl3nd
    @JM-rl3nd 3 года назад +2

    The OR2 is an impressive watch, I just ordered one. Thanks for your informative review. 👍

    • @AKhan.28
      @AKhan.28 3 года назад

      I'm about to order this watch. Did you get the no date? And have you received it yet?

    • @JM-rl3nd
      @JM-rl3nd 3 года назад

      @@AKhan.28
      Adil, yes I ordered and paid deposit for OR2 no date watch in mid May and was told to expect delivery in July. Have not received it yet. Best to you.

  • @fbisono66
    @fbisono66 Год назад

    Where can you service it? And does ginault have different styles bracelets?

  • @mrdisco99
    @mrdisco99 4 года назад +2

    Of course anyone who spent over a thousand dollars on a watch is going to have good things to say about it. I don't think anyone is arguing about the quality. Clearly they make an amazing product. It's the association with replicas and the secrecy around their manufacturing despite claiming "Made in America" that makes me wary about spending that much money on their brand. For that money I could buy an Oris which is not only an original design, but is from a company with real history and a real place in Switzerland where they make their product and is run by people whose names and faces are known. Some people may not care about that, and that's fine. Spend your money on what you feel is important. You earned it. But some of us do.

    • @randymarsh3677
      @randymarsh3677 4 года назад +6

      Yes you are absolutely right. I am crazy person and i kinda love the mystique and controversy of the watch, its sort of the forbidden fruit of the watch community. As long as the quality is there and the accuracy I don’t mind paying that much. For me Watch brands are the establishment and Ginault is the renegade. Just reiterate you are absolutely right, as a lower class citizen i respect a infamous underground replica maker trying to go legitimate whether the story is true or not.

    • @Femiforfun
      @Femiforfun 4 года назад +9

      Whether they used to replicas is less of a point when someone is actually trying to improve or change their ways, especially when you look at the quality they offer for the price and how they stand by their products. This pretty much highlights "cancel/outrage culture" as there is no longer room for redemption, especially for something so subjective. The "No History" argument people propose actually makes no logical sense seeing as "history" has to begin somewhere and "literally" takes time. Unless of course, brands like Oris, Steinhart and Rolex all also really came around about 5 years ago. If someone started something yesterday and happens to be exceptional at it, do you rebuke them because they have "No History"? I guess that argument only works in the absence of logic. It feels as if people are angry that someone who "reportedly" used to make replicas is now trying to be legitimate, and is so exceptional at doing it as well (almost like it undermines their justification for paying so much more for similar quality). If the history was so important and objective, then the market should speak for itself. From the incoherent clamor of these critics, it does not seem to be about the past, rather the undermining of their own manufactured or indoctrinated perspectives. It's almost as if they would rather this person go back to making replicas instead so that they can continue to have a reason to be angry. (FYI, Ginault has a good warranty and they stand by their product if anything happens to it). That's part of what people pay for and why the secondary market remains strong, not just "some history." Just ask Rolex and how nobody even wanted to wear them until Wilsdorf implemented some branding magic. I don't agree at all with Rolex's amoral, awful and disgraceful business practices or how they treat their customers, but it hasn't stopped me or these virtue and legal signalers (those supporting "amoral" or "unethical" acts because they are not "illegal") from purchasing a submariner. I admire how it looks, I like how it feels and they stand by their products. Ginault being "built in America" is as much as all the Swiss brands claiming to be "Made in Switzerland." Nothing is 100% created in the place they claim as they have "legal" and in this case, "moral" flexibility. Most of the Swiss brands and the components aren't even 80% manufactured in Switzerland which falls within the "legal" parameters for "Made in Switzerland." The "built/made in ..." part for all brands, Ginault included, probably means "assembled." I'm not sure how people expect any new company without "history" to succeed when history is not established overnight. From the opposing perspective, the one logical argument is the fact that Ginault has not done a good job of rectifying the slander or defamation to which they have been subject.

    • @dorningarts
      @dorningarts 4 года назад

      @@Femiforfun good points

    • @Jedi391
      @Jedi391 2 года назад +1

      There is a false virtue in comments like these that just make me want to buy the Ginault that much more. It’s as if the mere act of buying one is a large middle finger to everything cancel culture represents.

    • @mrdisco99
      @mrdisco99 2 года назад

      @@Jedi391 Read the last few sentences of what I wrote. I couldn't care less if you buy it. That has no affect on me or my opinions. I'm just speaking for myself and what I choose to spend my money on, and I know many others feel the same way. You may not, and that's totally fine. I'm not trying to "cancel" anything. The world is big enough for all of us. That said, though, if your reason for buying it is to stick a middle finger to some perceived "cancel culture" then maybe you don't appreciate the product as much as you think you do.

  • @errh007
    @errh007 4 года назад +1

    Many thanks to you for sharing the video. Can you please attach the link to buy the watch? And what is its price?

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +1

      e r,
      There is no product page currently since this is only on pre-sale right now. However, you can email Ginault directly to get added to the pre-sale (ginault.com/).
      Retail price will be set at $1,499 USD for no-date models and $1,699 for date models.
      I hope this helps.
      Thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @maverickwatchreviews
    @maverickwatchreviews 4 года назад

    Great stuff! You definitely need more subs!

  • @kkassen1
    @kkassen1 4 года назад

    Can’t decide if I want the blue or black ceramic date no cyclops with smurf....
    Thoughts?

  • @JP-rd9bt
    @JP-rd9bt 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting video, the Ginault story is even more interesting.

  • @gregentwistle5105
    @gregentwistle5105 Год назад

    Very well done review, I’ll be placing a deposit on an OR2 this afternoon. Looking forward to adding it to my collection.

  • @apostolosgalimanas8274
    @apostolosgalimanas8274 2 года назад

    I have one year now the Or2 ! What can i say about Ginault! Really scream quality! Its phenomenal watch! So close with Rolex and Omega without spend so mutch money!

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String Год назад

    The brushing looks a little ruff for me

  • @bruh_oly1370
    @bruh_oly1370 3 года назад

    WatchSpec! Which do you prefer out of your two ocean rovers - the or1 gold sands or the OR2 smurf (no date of course for purists)

  • @alexsdg3441
    @alexsdg3441 3 года назад

    I know that Ginault is doing 2nd phase of pre-order. however, they ran into a major defective issue on the ceramic bezel pip problem. do you know whether that issue has been resolved completely? if i order now, I won't have any more of that bezel pip problem? please let me know. thanks

  • @jefferyneu3915
    @jefferyneu3915 2 года назад

    Nice, balanced review odpf a great watch. I am not aware of the negative talk about Ginault. Looking at the watches, I am impressed! I love the gold fleck lume. BGW9 is attractive, but I want lume to be as bright and long lasting as possible.

  • @Super3xtr4
    @Super3xtr4 4 года назад +1

    Where can you buy it? On the website I can only find the first version

    • @dorningarts
      @dorningarts 4 года назад +1

      you have to email Ginault, and get on a waitlist

  • @dennissadlicki866
    @dennissadlicki866 3 года назад

    My son gifted me the same book, A Man & His Watch. It's a great book and shows your good taste. Love the Ginualt Ocean Rover II and am ordering it in the next few days. Great review and just subscribed to your channel. Kudos to your reviews!

  • @pauljackson6593
    @pauljackson6593 4 года назад +3

    Had one sold it, the quality is no way as good as Rolex , Omega etc . If you want a quality watch pay the money for a named brand. You always feel second best with this watch

    • @RickLaForce
      @RickLaForce 3 года назад +1

      Sounds like a personal problem. An NSX isn't as "good" as an Aventador, but it doesn't cost like one, either. What's your point?

  • @matthewdeancole
    @matthewdeancole Год назад

    The smurf lume is BGW9.

  • @bassmannausaugsburg
    @bassmannausaugsburg 10 месяцев назад

    Wish I could get it without the ceramic.

  • @23727bgk
    @23727bgk 4 года назад +1

    I'm very happy with my older sand lume OR1. To be absolutely perfect, the new crystal and bezel combined with two less lines of text would do it for me. The movement in my OR1 could only be better if the power reserve was moved up to 60 hours. I still believe it is the best Mil Sub or Submariner available.

  • @LtJAS
    @LtJAS 4 года назад

    At 7:27 minutes in... Please explain ""you can apply that optional gold sand loom"" ?
    ... How does one do that please?

  • @dusanliric3279
    @dusanliric3279 3 года назад

    only thing missing is logo on the clasp

  • @sheldonsplace4511
    @sheldonsplace4511 4 года назад

    In your personal opinion which version do you like gold sands or the modern version ? I mean which one stands out for you ?

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад +2

      I should clarify that the new "modern" Ocean Rover 2 is offered in both lume colors: the Gold Sand & the Glowing Smurfs (crisp white). The choice between these 2 is really up to personal preference: the Gold Sand look is not found in any other watch and it gives a more vintage-patina, whereas the Glowing Smurfs is classic to keep the pure black/white look (I also like the blue-hue to the lume in the dark).
      My video highlighted the Gold Sand Lume on my Ocean Rover 1, which is different in the fact that the OR1 has the painted bezel (the blue/gold bezel is quite unique). The Ocean Rover 1 is still available, and it is a fantastic watch. But considering the upgrades added to the Ocean Rover 2, I definitely recommend the new OR2.
      I hope this helps.
      Thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @joekelly9369
    @joekelly9369 2 года назад

    steinheart ovm every time .. propper eta movement , not a rip off

  • @FadeToBlack2181
    @FadeToBlack2181 4 года назад

    This watch looks so high quality. i can't wait to receive my order. Great review!

  • @mike73ng
    @mike73ng 3 года назад

    Have the blue ceramic version. Love it so far. Don’t put too much emphasis on accuracy. This movement is not anti magnetic. It’s also going to vary with shock. You want accuracy, get a GS Spring Drive. I love the glide lock but the ETA movement is not special. It’s my daily drivers for now.

    • @Jedi391
      @Jedi391 2 года назад

      What does yours run at?

  • @dasboototto
    @dasboototto 3 года назад

    aka "clone" but I'm thinking about it

  • @dennisberceles7387
    @dennisberceles7387 4 года назад

    Is ginault ocean rover 2 available in 36mm

  • @martinwozenilek485
    @martinwozenilek485 4 года назад +1

    When is the expected release date?

    • @nathanw1841
      @nathanw1841 4 года назад +1

      the pre-order for it is already on-going, you will have to email them and request to join.

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад

      As Nathan W mentioned, you can email Ginault right now to try to get in on the pre-order. Otherwise, the on-sale date for the general public should be some point in the next few months.
      Hope this helps.
      -Jon

  • @mattang7
    @mattang7 4 года назад

    Does the bracelet have solid end links or hollow end links?

    • @watchspec
      @watchspec  4 года назад

      Hi Matt,
      This has solid end links. It's the real deal.
      Thanks for watching.
      -Jon

  • @robertoluna7259
    @robertoluna7259 4 года назад

    Muy bonito

  • @Nahduge
    @Nahduge 4 года назад +3

    The issue with sub homages is that the sub is the most recognizable watch on the planet and the chances are you'll get someone coming up to you and saying "cool Rolex". You then spend the next 10 minutes explaining how it's a quality timepiece though it's not a Rolex.

    • @horologyproject
      @horologyproject 4 года назад +3

      Leonard K just say thanks. And if the conversation continues and moves in a direction about the watch then you can talk about it. I don’t think people need to explain themselves to strangers.

    • @dorningarts
      @dorningarts 4 года назад +2

      The truth is, if you wear ANY diver, people will ask if it is a Rolex, I had someone recently look at my Oris Aquis and say "nice Rolex" Nobody cares but watch geeks

  • @thekeytoairpower
    @thekeytoairpower 4 года назад

    Djinn O

  • @ccw5886
    @ccw5886 3 года назад

    OMG. I have the ORII. Its amazing. |The most accurate watch I have ever known. Its astonishing! I have a new Explorer 39mm and a 14060 sub. This watch combines the best features and does it so well. My 2824-2 is -2 per 24 hours. So good. I love it....a keeper.

  • @izbiq8052
    @izbiq8052 3 года назад

    I’ve ordered one 20107X and really looking forward to it! Have one of the first ones but I’m interested in seeing the difference in build quality!
    I’m really impressed with this brand :)

  • @u.u.upatreonrequests8679
    @u.u.upatreonrequests8679 4 года назад +1

    Sheesh ... This is a Experience micro brand. Ill pass. If I can't find it on Jomashop and what not ... what does that say about the brand.

    • @JaxWatchesandEDC
      @JaxWatchesandEDC 3 года назад +1

      There are a lot of things not on Jomashop, even by big brands. What’s your point?

  • @pauljackson6593
    @pauljackson6593 4 года назад

    Had a ocean rover 1 when they first came out about 3 years ago , I sold it as couldn’t get over it being a homage watch and people calling it a “Folex” etc . Also the accuracy was not that good and the bracelet quality was no way near as good quality as the watch the finishing inside the clasp was poor and it scratched the bracelet when opening and closing. I eventually bought a new Seamaster and it’s in another league!

    • @jaybachner2215
      @jaybachner2215 4 года назад

      I own the ORII and the quality, fit&finish, accuracy is amazing. The bracelet although not as good as the ones on Rolex Sub but is by far the best I have experienced in microbrands and even to many major Swiss brands. It's funny to be reading this, everything you said about the Ocean Rover are the exact opposite to my personal experience also the experience shared by many others.

  • @Mile-long-list
    @Mile-long-list 4 года назад +1

    So it is Chinese. Research the owner as well, you'll love how much money you gave his fraud loving ass. Congratulations on your terrible purchase you should do some research

    • @jimferry4751
      @jimferry4751 3 года назад

      I was interested in one till I started to research. I will buy a Steinhart.

    • @tennistron588
      @tennistron588 3 года назад +1

      lol, my friend wether the back story is true or not, as an owner of the OR2 I have to ask, how can an alleged replica maker make such a good quality watch at it's pricepoint? Apart from the in house movement, this watch is every bit as good as a submariner.

    • @Jedi391
      @Jedi391 2 года назад

      What a sad person you must be.

  • @ringaleavo
    @ringaleavo 10 месяцев назад

    Lose the background tunes !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jayce704
    @jayce704 5 месяцев назад

    On this video OR1 looks much more better than OR2.

  • @dicklongmire6836
    @dicklongmire6836 4 года назад +1

    There is a reason why this watch is probably one of the closest to the Rolex 16610. Look up TC in the replica watch community.

    • @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571
      @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 4 года назад +3

      Thanks for that, I googled TC up and that dude is a legend, a deity like figure a highly talented watchmaker that created the highest level stuff back in the days, and his Subs are still reveared as the best quality rendition of the 5 digit Sub. If he is behind this company now, that's one hell of an endorsement for top quality work.

    • @dorningarts
      @dorningarts 4 года назад

      @@rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 Ha!

    • @andrei-cosmin.popa85
      @andrei-cosmin.popa85 4 года назад

      @@rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 cool way to talk about a criminal.

    • @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571
      @rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 4 года назад +2

      @@andrei-cosmin.popa85 cool way or not, any part of that statement is false?

    • @topgun1324
      @topgun1324 4 года назад +4

      If’s what you’re asserting is true, he’s legit now. I’ll buy his watches. I just received my OR2 and it’s masterpiece quality.