FIRST REACTION TO Deftones - Back To School
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I find the backstory shared in the comments here give me a better understanding to the unseen or unheard nuances to the song. Quite interesting for real, it gives the narrative more of an adult like experience as opposed to the quote on quote ‘School’ aspect. I’ll be downloading this one.
Bruv, I'm am loving that you are loving Deftones. They are one of the pillars of the Nu-Metal genre that have transcended beyond being just that and have always done exactly what they want, nothing more. I will say tho, I don't know how you've made it this far and NOT done My Own Summer....absolute FIRE!
Agreed but Imo My Own Summer has been over pushed and over played. I've heard it so many times that I usually skip it and I wouldn't be mad if they left it out of their live setlist. There's a lot more to deftones than that song. Anyway
Peace!
@@drunkship12 you’re not wrong, but could you imagine never having heard it? It’s different if you hear it 100 times. And since he’s a fan of this era of deftones sound I would say it’s 💯 a must listen!
@@zentotem58 Fair enough. You raise a good point
Interesting story about this song: Back to School (also know as Mini Maggit), was added to the album (White Pony) after the album was first released... the first prints of CDs released didn't have this song on it (I know mine didn't), it was added to the beginning of the album in later prints/releases. The story goes that White Pony was Deftones' most critically acclaimed album and the record label felt like they didn't have a real strong single to put on the radio/MTV (other than "Change [In the house of flies]"). So they asked the Deftones to crank out a radio friendly single. This song is actually a sort of remix of the last song on the album, Pink Maggit, but with a very different vibe but similar melody.
Was gonna say when you listen to Pink Maggit it makes so much more sense. Pink Maggit is near the top of the list of my favorite all time Deftones songs.
3:07 I'm a huge deftones fan and I'm dead serious when I mean that it is quite better to have a diversity of opinions and views than not having them at all. Really appreciate your honest thoughts bro.
I eventually got into it 👊🏽 I’ve been listening to it since and I’m gonna buy it.
i am a deftones life long fan since the 90’s. One of my favorite bands. This song may be most fans LEAST favorite. their hearts werent in this “single” version at all. Appreciate yalls honest reaction and looking at all sides of a band not just the great songs (even though this one made me cringe) 🤠. Try “Rosemary” or “Around the fur” or “My own summer”
True. It just doesn’t quite work. It was a fun try…but happy deftones didn’t go too far down this rabbit hole.
Same here Jordan. Life long and I've never faltered ❤️
This song is another arrow in the quiver. I personally love this song, but in comparison to the others... It's never going to beat RX Queen, Sextape, MOS, CMND/CTR oh god I'm getting Deftones tourettes 🤣🤣🤣
Sextape was the first Dance song at my wedding. A beautifully misleading title to a romantic song
I still blast this song all the time in my car lol make my kids listen to this all numetal
This song wasn't on the original release for the album. The label had them go back to the studio and record a "rap-rock single"
This was during the big rap-rock phase at the beginning of the 2000's ( spider man 1 vibes lol)
You're after spider man 2 vibes.... Bruv.
Rocket skates by deftones.... the chorus is literally this: "Guns...Razors...Knives...Fu*k with me..." the rigf... the beat... the VIBE.
Glad you're digging the deftones though. Hope Charlie is well. Glad you're keeping the channel moving along. Be well. Bless up 🙏🤙🤙
Ahhh this track. Deftones never wanted to make this song. Pink maggit was the original version and much better. Interesting he said there’s a disconnect between the chorus and verse. They wrote this so fast to be radio friendly. They had outgrown this nu metal rap rock at this point
Loving the reactions and good to see you covering more Deftones! Tell ya guest host to wear his headphones properly if he wants to hear the full mix ;)
Force of habit!
When I saw the song you were reacting to, I was nervous that you weren’t gonna love it based on the past Deftones songs you’ve reacted to. Glad to see you enjoyed it, now you have to do My Own Summer, Kimdracula and Cherry Waves!! Cheers 🍻
20 years later and this song still hits really damn hard. Still get chills every time i listen to them. Chino has a voice and way to sing and rap that just works for me. Probably my favorite band of all time.
Very good insight from the both of you! Wasn’t expecting the second dude to like it all the way through but gave his honest opinion which is always a plus! Great video 💯 big deftones fan here btw
I remember when this song debuted. Still sounds incredible.
First Deftones song I ever heard.
They've been my number one band for years now.
deftones bloody cape,minerva,battleaxe,beware,goon squad,diamond eyes,rocket skates etc just low end brutality...in a good way haha,have a good day chaps keep it coming
You gotta checkout some of their newer stuff, especially Beauty School, Rocket skates, Now you've seen the butcher! top quality stuff, encapsulating the Deftones spirit! You are one of the few people who Really get them so i think you gonna love those tracks!
Deftones - "Bored" and "Seven Words" are still my favorites by them.
I struggle between Deftones and TOOL trying to decide my fav band of all time.
Both have been the narrative to a hell of a lot of my 42 years on earth.
Gun to my head... Deftones ❤️
Never understood why there was 2 different versions of this song, the other ones better imo
The other version is definitely better
Because the record label wanted them to be like limp bizkit. They only did it because the label refuse to put out the album.
I love watching you turn into a fan of rock over time. Variety is the spice of life
Please do You've Seen the Butcher, and/or Diamond Eyes. I'm loving these Deftones reactions!
Bro you two are spot on with your opinions. Honesty Is must appreciated
Keep up the fantastic work. Deftones - Cherry Waves is the vibe you are looking for..
That's funny because i love the disconnection between the lyrics and the music in the verse.
I just watched all of your reactions to the Deftones and this particular one can describe how people respond to them. In that, you get them off the break and love it or it does not appeal to your musical ear. I felt the same way you did, JB… I felt that shit right away when I listened to their first album and knew that they were special in their approach to the flooded genre. Made their own path using a lot of unique chords and sound mixing. The drummer keeps me in it… always. And, of course, Chino’s voice. Phew. Forget about it.
Keep going with the reactions, my dude… Thank you.
Definitely an interesting one for a first timer, I’m glad your partner(didn’t catch his name) is able to sit back and listen objectively, that’s cool. This is probably one of the most rap-heavy songs of theirs so if he was vibing with that more than the rock chorus and bridge and stuff then Deftones may not be his thing. Which is fine, it’s nice when everyone isn’t just loving everything they hear, especially if they are still willing to dissect and discuss the theme, musicality, etc. Cheers
From Ohio to you….thank you! As a Deftones from from 1995 I want to let you know you need to check out some stuff from their first album. It’s raw. But trust me. Most will tell you 7 words. Or even Engine no.9, as those are the two most popular from the album. As a musician I know you will LOVE lifter or birthmark. As a fellow drummer and fan of Abe (Deftones drummer) you will love these!
Love your reactions bro, no bullshit, subtle dryness about how you approach your work (could be confused with arrogance). I don't subscribe to much but I find myself back here every day so thank you.
A dive into Nine Inch Nails could be rewarding once you understand the noise. Chaotic, powerful, eclectic and it will leave you feeling violated, but in a good way
Nine Inch Nails - Into the void or
Nine Inch Nails - only
Easier one's to digest and train your ear
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Still trying to find a song for JB that beats We're in this together, so far its been unsuccessful
Dude, Deftones we’re my shit in the late 90’s early 00s.
Listen to one of their old songs off the first album (Bored) now to see how they have grown.
It's funny how you mentioned it's a satirical sound because the song was made because of the studio wanted a single to play on the radio and Deftones said, "Ok, here's your track". and they ran with it. Pink Maggit is the OG track.
Kool.
First off ... this is another song off that 20 year old White Pony Album. Everything you've seen other than Minerva/ Shut be up and drive has been White Pony
This was the label asking for a more commercial sound to finish the album.
Chino said okay... he would go through the formula
Everything boring and simple his group was avoiding would be on this track.
This was more a brainstorming in the cafeteria sound for the band as compared to the well thought out lyrics he puts into the normal songs.
His topic is that they are motivated differently & Deftones are not the followers being pressured to fit in.
They didn't love it, but they are artists... label was happy.
This is sub par for them. The musical genius dumbed it down enough to become mainstream
It’s an interesting song. As far as I’ve heard the label was pushing for them to do a rappy nu-metal track that could compete in the charts at the time and this one could have been the result of that. It differs from the rest of the album which is more “typical” Deftones. Interesting nonetheless. Really appreciated the perspective from your guest today!
This is a variation of the song Pink Maggot, (this track is known as Mini Maggot) Pink Maggot would never have been a single. THe chorus from this song is the same chorus, which might be part of that disconnect.
Deftones' first album has a lot more rapping. Chino, and the whole band have always played and experimented. It's amazing that they have such a unique sound, while having played with such a broad variety of sounds. Easily in my top three bands.
Deftones is my favorite band!!
Yet again, I must say I love this channel. Each person brings their own style and energy. You don't feel the need to feign hype, and you're giving the songs some serious thought. Everyone doesn't need to fall in love with every style that's out there, and different perspectives lead to the best conversations. Thanks again for taking the time to create this content and share your opinions/reactions.
This song is the one the record label wanted them to record. Pink maggit is the way deftones would’ve wanted this song.
Love seeing all your reactions especially to Deftones. Please react to Sextape, one of my favorite Deftones songs.
GAUZE GAUZE GAUZE GAUZE
LISTEN TO DEFTONES GAUZE!!!
AND ENTOMBED
AND ROSEMARY
tracks off of their Koi No Yokan album, arguably their best and most signature sounding album but not hard hitting like thier earlier music, it was not well received on release but its become the classic that set their bar as high as it's every been.
Review to the song "Bloody Cape" by the Deftones - Has a music video too.
deftones man...its weird how i'm like meh when i first hear a track but after a few replays you like it more and more and more
This is gold.
To many songs to suggest. Definitely would jump into their album "Koa no yokan" song called Romantic dreams is epic and right down your alley. Awesome sound production. Great job as usual!!
Pls do HEXAGRAM - Deftones Next!!
Hella funny to me that in the era of so much angsty music Chino wrote a song about how cool he is and how fun HS was for him lol
Gotta do Phantom Bride, Kimdracula, or Hole in the Earth from Deftones I promise you. Either one... Tool-Descending👀
Please check out Absolomb by Periphery! You guys will love it, engineered to perfection with a super tasty bass and drum sound
Awesome reaction. Loved the honesty by the other homie too. Please react to "Needles and Pins" by Deftones.
What I find is the chorus is the melodic touchstone for me. I'm not a rap guy so they exploration into the rap side is fine but they bring it back to the melodic chorus that I can relate to better.
"sex metal" is right bruv - love the discussion between you both - if you want the sexiest song, you gotta check out You've Seen The Butcher! =)
2:38 most logical view on music. Imagine if everyone was conscious about this statement when listening to whatever music. We need to discern what is the artist purpose and if it matches with what I am looking forward in a song. If it doesn't match, that doesn't necessarily makes it a bad song. Such an intelligent statement
Deftones weren’t very happy that the record company had them put this remix Pink Maggit together, isn’t that right?
Pleasse do react to deftones - Rosemary :(
i telling u bro check out deftones song seven words
My thoughts on it are, it both sounds like Deftones, but is also doesn’t sound like their other songs. Which is an interesting thing that I’m having trouble explaining. Overall i liked but didn’t love the song, my biggest compliant would be that the Chorus doesn’t seem to mesh with what’s happening in the music until the last time they use it. Up until then, the chorus and music seem to clash, almost like they’re trying to do opposite things from a soundscape perspective.
The song was a farce. It was not origionally part of the album. The label made them add it to appeal to the nu metal crowd. They wrote the lyrics over a song called pink maggot.
I used to like this song a lot when younger, but now I find it quite commercial... bro, again, you really have to react to Team Sleep - Ever which is the side project of the Deftones singer... cheers!!!
too bad you didn't get him for the other version of the song, pink maggit, that everything but the verses come from, so you both could hear those parts in context!
I don't think this song matters too much lyrically. It's all about the feels and nostalgia that they bring 🤍🐎.
Edit: Also, when are you going to check out Zeal & Ardor, go on! do it to yourself! 😈😎
Try Risk next time, or Gauze or Tempest
Please listen to Deftones - Cherry Waves
idk if you know the story but this song was originally pink maggit but the execs wanted a more hip song at the time so they forced the band to make this
If you listen to them without the visuals from their videos, you'll find that their music is more pure all on its own. Their Cocteau Twins covers were almost too good, as well as many of their other cover songs. Excellent band.
Chino said this song was very generic and they wrote it in a day, it was because the record labels wanted something more like limp bizkit who was blowing up at the time and they were like see how easy this is… also I’ve heard it called dream metal but they definitely created their own genre
You should react to the song my own sumer!
The original black or red versions of the White Pony album (there was a limited version that came in red or black clamshell packaging) are the definitive versions of the album. This song was added on after the initial version was released because the label wanted a rap-rock song on the album due to Limp Bizkit being heavy on the radio (yep...like airwaves radio) so they recorded this to toss to the label and it ended up being their biggest single but weakest song, IMO. Chino has already stated that they recorded this just to satisfy label demand and that there was little thought put into the process.
Yo headphones guy!
Cherry waves by deftones....
It's mostly drums....
Their label wanted a 'hit single' to sell the album while deftones told them nah, we're trying to push different music not boring cash cow easy formulaic nu metal that was trendy at that time and that the band's choice of single would be a hit if the label backed it up. The label said either write a hit or we won't promote the album, so chino told the label okay look how easy it is to make this nu metal rap rock shit and he made this 'hit single' version of the album song in like 10 minutes.
Yooo do Divisions by Umphrey's Mcgee!
The chorus symbolizes out of school homie
Chino is a G.
Who doesn't love a music video of a 30 something year old man dancing on the tables in a high school.
You city the end ...
You should have listened to Pink Maggit instead.
Nailed it. Sex Metal.
yep, this is is one of my least favorite songs by Deftones... and i love Deftones. There are bits of this song that are sooo good, just overall I don't find it appealing enough to go on the repeat playlist.
The dude with the jean jacket is a bummer. People deserve more fun friends than that.
Beware
7 words so rapping, check the song
Why are you listening to songs I’m not recommending
Adrenaline is the best Deftones album. Bored, Lifter, and Root. Chino was better before he got fat.
One of deftones worst songs lol but still bangs. Waiting for rosemary man!!
You have to do " pins and needles" from Deftones. You will live the beat. Rip chi ❤️🦾
Pink maggit is better.
Weird version of the song.
Chino doesn't even like this song
I REPEAT!! I REPEAT!!!
My 2 deftone songs I'll request are...
• risk
• goon squad
Awesome track, one of their best!!!