Great overview! I'll be honest, I'm happy I went with the M18. Mine came with the 13900HX, RTX4080, 1TB SSD, and 32GB RAM, for under $2600 USD. Sure, the M18 is pounds heavier, but I'm a pretty stout and the extra weight doesn't bother me when transporting. As a desktop replacement, I love the price to performance ratio!
I would take the m18 over this any day, I love that 18” screen, it’s a real desktop replacement. When it comes to gaming laptops for me, the bigger the better 😀
Nah... for that price, here, you can get a Legion 9i with better CPU + 32GB ram , much better screen, and well someone prefer light, someone prefer big... Legion 9i IS THE BEST. Just that it depends on which country you are in :) Price varies ALOT!
@@xruud24here's what I can confidently say for the price in America the amount of money that it costs to buy the i9 and 4080 or 4090 is at least in the realm of 4000 USD. Bearing that in mind the used market is amazing. I picked up an M18 4090 with 64GB RAM and 2TB for 2500$ 3200 at the high end for used. One thing I like to mention is that out of all of these high-end laptops. The ones that look like crap are the MSI very plastic looking in flimsy for the amount of money. Every other laptop with a 4080 or 4090 looks pretty decent, but the alienware I will have to say honestly is an a League of its own in terms of aesthetics
Add the small trackpad. Unless u r using a macbook, it just generally sucks on windows based laptops, so I think Lenovo assumed that most gamers use a mouse anyway so it doesn't really matter in the end. And I agree, using a trackpad on a win laptop has always been more of a last resort anyway (like when you forget to take your mouse).
razer is the only company that makes gaming laptops look modern. i really like lenovo legions series, but i hope they will release a creative design that would look very casual
Great review! I love that Lenovo is pushing the boundaries with more inovation with that water-cooled laptop. If they make an 18 inch version later on i will sell my current notebook to get one for sure! You think there will be a Pro 9i a little down the line?
Excellent review, mate, and reasonable conclusion. Laptops with such a high price tag need to be near perfect, i.e., there should be no "buts" in the review. Consumers who buy this aren't your regular lot. They truly have money to burn on the next "almost" great device. In Canada, I believe it's a 5K + pricetag. Ya, no! 🙂
Yeah current pricing is insane and I do love this laptop but you are totally right, when spending this much money I shouldn’t be finding really easy things to moan about, I should be really struggling to find anything wrong with it 😀
I mean, it’s kind of hard to really find any drawbacks on this laptop other than the speakers being sub par. I enabled Dolby Atmos on mine and they sound great now. I have the 4090 9i with 64gb ram. The laptop is insane. Sure, a bit on the premium side cost wise but the pros are somewhat easily being ignored besides the obvious. It’s easier to generate a clickbait video to garner revenue off of something innovative with near almost nothing to complain about. Replaced my i9 13900 3090 desktop no problem and I travel alot. An extremely unique powerful laptop and considered the best of the best right now. At the end of the day, that 9i will turn more heads sitting on a table than the others will next to it. Also, you get like $300 in Lenovo rewards points to get other nice stuff to go with it.
Thanks a lot for you doing! I'm a game developer and I'm going to purchase this laptop on sale. Now i use my old MSI GS75 9SG with Ultra wide LG monitor. I play games also and i need specs that allow me to play 3440x1440 game on my laptop. My current msi with 2080 MaxQ can't handle it :( thanks a lot for performance comparison with another high level laptops on market 👍
I like the new 9i, but I miss the clean slate look from the old 7 series & y740. There wasn't much branding too. They had to provide a clean-back option too!
I must admit, last years legion was amazing. I was so disappointed when they dumbed the 7 down this year with a plastic chassis and all the premium features missing 😢
I would consider 7 or 7i over it. You have to pay extra money for the feature that doesn't work or practical. The cooling system mainly works with heatpipes and fans plus big vents. I've seen a channel test it by killing water pump and result is the same.
Yeah, I ran multiple benchmarks with gpuz running and although the cooling is good at no point could I tell when the water pump was engaging to bring down the temps! I think the 7 is a much better buy, I got mine for £2000 so literally half the price with the 4080 and i9 13900HX so literally all I am loosing is better build quality and features (which they never should have removed anyway, they had them on last years 7 so removed them to make the 9 look better!) I will do a head to head later this week so people can decide for themselves but if I was buying for me personally, I know what I would choose
Bought a Legion 7, 2 years ago when it got released, 5900HX, rtx 3080, and it was almost 1/3 the price of this one... was going to upgrade to the Legion 9, but going for a Asus scar 18 instead i think due to the price and performance...
Loved the video! I was wondering whether there is an upcoming video on the AMD Alienware M16 with the Ryzen 7! I was looking to buy it and I always love watching your awesome reviews, keep up the great work!
Thanks mate, and yes, I really want to get one in but I currently have 7 laptops sitting in my studio that I am supposed to have reviewed 🤣 they just take me so long to make
I think the RUclipsr Dave2d took apart this laptop, and had a look at the liquid cooling system. The problem was, there was no reservoir or a proper radiator to effectively cool down the circulating hot water, only the fans blowing air on the copper tubing of the liquid as it flows around. This meant that there are limits to the level of cooling that this would provide, with the system reaching saturation when all the water is at the hot temperature, resulting in the inevitable throttling. However, if you are running a game/task for so long as to heat up an entire loop of water, you probably need to use a desktop with a radiator/dedicated egpu itself.
Thanks for another great review! I have to be honest, this sweet machine got me a little aroused! But my Alienware M17 R4 that you helped me choose over 2 yrs ago is still an awesome rig that I never take for granted. Hoping it lasts another 5 years. Love your content.
Thanks mate and glad it is still performing well for you, the m17r4 has to be one of my favourite alienwares, no idea why they removed that lunar light keyboard with numpad, that was their best keyboard ever
Excellent review 🙂 Is there any noticeable mini led blooming around bright UI elements surrounded by dark background on windows desktop? What are your thoughts about miniled displays in general? Are they worth considering despite of the blooming issues? Thank you 🙂
Hello, thank you for your stunning work and detailed reviews. In terms of gaming comfort (especially long sessions), would you recommend Legion Pro 7 16 over Alienware m18? For long gaming sessions, what laptop would you recommend? Thank you again!
I would much rather have a vapor chamber and premium speakers with a large trackpad instead of the gimmicky "water cooling" that seems to do nothing at all
Could you really see a notable difference in temps with the water cooler ? Looking online, the water cooler loop does not go over any radiators, its just crosses one of the air heat pipes. Seems more marketing than anything else...
Would you happen to have a Asus ROG Strix Scar 16"? I would like to see a comparison there since they both have mini-LED panels, 4080/4090 GPU config, along with 32 or 64GB of RAM as well. It's almost a 1k difference in the US since the ASUS model with the 4090 is around 3500-ish. Great video by the way.
I did some research, and in a weird twist, Lenovo nailed the price in India, as the competitors are either overpriced or unavailable. The Legion 9i with RTX 4080, 32 GB RAM, and 1 TB SSD costs ₹374,736 ($4,528), which feels uber expensive. However, the competition is also more or less the same way: 1. The Alienware x16 laptop with same RAM and SSD specs costs ₹395,190 ($4,775). The display is not as good as the Lenovo, but the mechanical keyboard might be something to think about. 2. The Alienware m16 R1 laptop with the same RAM and SSD costs ₹329,989 ($3,987). Again, there is the issue of the display being behind the Lenovo, but the upgradability with RAM and SSD access is again a step ahead. Not to mention the lack of USB power delivery on the Alienware laptop. 3. Razer doesn't sell in India, and importing anything from Razer global is a financial suicide, as Indian customs would intercept the parcel and levy an import duty of well over 75% of the purchase price at the point of intercept (airport/post). 4. Asus ROG Strix Scar 16 (2023) is the only laptop which significantly undercuts the Lenovo on the price point, with a price of ₹280,000 ($3,383). But the 2023 model doesn't have the mini-LED panel (it only came in 2024), and the availability of the laptop is incredibly spotty with the laptop routinely going out of stock, and a lack of customization options during purchase, both of which Lenovo India does really well. So, Lenovo did end up hitting a home run in India, with it getting a good response in India among the elite gaming community.
This is a great laptop. I don't like the ram placement but I understand the reason. The speakers are not a surprise, most of the windows laptops have terrible speakers. Everything else is actually really good.
Yeah, agreed and the speakers are always an after thought on windows gaming laptops, but when you spend this much money couldn’t they spend more than $2 for a set of speakers 😂
Great review. I think Lenovo is probably trying too hard, and they have to jack up the price to cover the cost of engineering design. I am really hoping the water pump is more usable after a few iterations... Temperatures for VRAM and CPU seem to be a bigger issue these days.
Hello, thank you for your videos, since you give an exact and detailed explanation, although I see them with subtitles since I am Cuban and I don't understand English, could you make a video explaining how to make an undervolt for the Legion 7i pro with the i9- 13900HX, I have it with the 4070 version and I added 64GB of ram at 5600MHz but it reads them at 5200MHz, I would like to do an undervol to lower the i9 temperatures a little, which are vastly high for my taste, thank you and have a good day.
good afternoon. I watched your review very clearly, keep up the good work. I can’t choose between Legion 7gen 7 r7 6800h rx 6850m xt(140w) vs Legion 5 pro core i7 13700hx and rtx 4060. What should I choose if I do graphic design photoshop and 4k video editing. Will there be a problem with 8vram in the future and with an explanation. Thank you
Personally I would get the legion pro 5 or 5i. the 7840HX or 13700HX cpus are much more powerful. The 6850m has much more VRAM but Nvidia cards are so much better than AMD for productivity work even at 8gb the Nvidia is the better option
I just wish they give the 7i the mini led and charge like $150 more and I'm all set. But that $4k problem range is too much :/ ( even though it's premium).
Yeah, they deliberately dumbed the 7 down this year to make way for the 9, last years 7 was much more premium than this years. Though with that said, you can’t complain about the performance on the 7, can’t wait to see how they perform against each other! Just about to start the testing
3:00 for me it's unacceptable because it forces to use external keyboard to make playing comfortable, what's the point of this huge space above keyboard?
Dave, how were you able get the CPU Overclock working in Vantage? Every time I try to use it, it asks to install driver, sends me to the vantage updater and it finds no new drivers.
I had the same problem. In the end I downloaded intel xtu which fixed the problem. Though I had to change the undervolt protection in bios and turn off core isolation which is the same on all these new 13th gen laptops 👍 if you get stuck give me a shout
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
Wish they didn't move the keyboard for the " water loop" There is nothing to cool the water down. So once the water hits the same temp as the cpu you are paying for warm water being circulated round for nothing ?. You can unplug the pump on the loop and the laptop performs the same, deffinetly a gimmick
Hi there Mash IT i just bought the legion 7i pro any thoughts if i did a good choice i went with an i9 and a 4080 despite me rrying to get an x16 or an m16 or even this beast of an legion 9i i still think i did good huying that legion what do you think? Keep it up ❤
I have exactly the same legion 7 as you and it’s amazing performance wise. I feel sad they took away the port lights and metal build but considering the price it’s probably the best value 4080 laptop this year
Whatever Lenovo give, But Alienware legacy can never be broken, The brand value is much much higher than any gaming laptop in the world, Alienware is always be head Turner
If the comparison video didn't help you decide then in a nutshell, 7i is much cheaper with same performance. Only reason to buy 9 is you love the look of it and need the mini LED screen :)
@@MashITTech okay thank you very much. I also noticed the 7i has 240hz screen so i think im just going to go with the 7i as the gen 9 can get 32gb DDR5 ram so its not much of a difference. Thank you the videos help me alot!
Both are amazing but I prefer the Blade 16 for the compact chassis, facial recognition, better speakers and better balanced performance mode. Screen is better on the legion though
Yeah, I have been very impressed with the legion for the last couple of years. With regards to Alienware, I am not really sure what is going on there at the moment! This years line up is really odd, and where is the x18!?!
Yep, that’s totally right, I was expecting an x18 to replace the x17 but instead if you want a large laptop you now have to buy the midrange m18, seems odd
dave2d says, that liquid cooling its not benefit at all, and I also must says its too expensive for that kind of price. carbon forge? i tho legion 7 2022 was made by all aluminium and its like more premium than this.
@@MashITTech I have I’m actually on the website now I’m deciding between the legion 7i with 4090 and 2tb storage 32gb ddr for 2900 Or the legion 9i with 4080 2tb storage 32gb ddr for 3100 HELP please 🙏🙏 huge purchase for me and it being a hit portable is part of the decision too
I really dont understand why they chose to put this idea into such a small chassi. Why not go 18 inch and utilize the extra space to actually make the water cooling legitimately functional instead of a gimmick? increase the space for the numpad, and the wrist palm rest? I swear this laptop is 1 step forward and 5 steps backward.
Yeah, I guess it’s because it is a risk to damage the laptop to make the video, I am happy opening it up if there is a problem but I didn’t want to risk damaging the laptop to show the cooler, we are a small channel and I have to buy all the laptops myself, they aren’t review units
ohh sure that would be cool i want to ask you a question does playing games a lot damages laptop i play 2-3 hours a days valorant around 55-60 degree centigrade \@@MashITTech
No mate, that will be fine and those temps are not even stressing the laptop! As long as you look after it and make sure the vents don’t get caked in dust it should last for years (unless you get really unlucky). I had an alienware that survived 8 years heavy gaming use and would still be working now if I hadn’t stripped it down for parts
thanks sir recently from few hours ago while i am watching youtube screen is a little bit like little flikerring but whule watcihing gameplay recorded osd and gaming it doesnt inoticed while wathcing your legion 91 viode can u tell me what happened @@MashITTech
Darn it! I promised my nephew I would buy him a new gaming laptop so now if I buy one of these for myself I'll have to buy him one arghhhhhh why do I say these things 🤣🤣
Most shooter games are all about fps so people buy the most powerful stuff and turn the settings all the way down to get the best performance out of the machine. lol. I still have an old 1050ti so I technically have to but I would at least try high settings if I could afford one of these. heheheh. @@MashITTech
lol I see, I thought I had benchmarked it wrong for a second 🤣 I always use max settings when I bench mark to see what it is capable of but never play at those settings either as I love high FPS 👍
I saw that thing at micro center. Junky Junk! That corky cover looks like dog. It’s a crappy laptop. Who the H was the designer? Terrible design and look🤮
@@YoshiIamair so, it is only my experience. I actually had 2 Legions before decided to get m18. First region had a deflecting trackpad, its replacement had some issues with GPU. Both of those laptops were above 3k and had 16” panels ( amazing panel, but still). After both Legions came with diffracts I decided to give Dell a chance. Got m18 ( 18” panel) with 4090 for under 3k. Used some Dell sale discount ($350) and some cash back from my credit card… all and all was $2750… In my opinion the build quality is much better than Lenovo and the screen is 18” instead of 16” on legion. Also it is a bit cheaper … My only issue with it , is that the logic board is inverted, therefore, you must take the whole motherboard out in order to change thermals… Also, do to the screen size 18” it’s a CHINKY BOY! Bottom line, I think build quality and QC is better than Lenovo. That is my experience:)?hope it helps …
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Great overview! I'll be honest, I'm happy I went with the M18. Mine came with the 13900HX, RTX4080, 1TB SSD, and 32GB RAM, for under $2600 USD. Sure, the M18 is pounds heavier, but I'm a pretty stout and the extra weight doesn't bother me when transporting. As a desktop replacement, I love the price to performance ratio!
I would take the m18 over this any day, I love that 18” screen, it’s a real desktop replacement. When it comes to gaming laptops for me, the bigger the better 😀
It's not a good price
Nah... for that price, here, you can get a Legion 9i with better CPU + 32GB ram , much better screen, and well someone prefer light, someone prefer big... Legion 9i IS THE BEST. Just that it depends on which country you are in :) Price varies ALOT!
@@xruud24here's what I can confidently say for the price in America the amount of money that it costs to buy the i9 and 4080 or 4090 is at least in the realm of 4000 USD.
Bearing that in mind the used market is amazing. I picked up an M18 4090 with 64GB RAM and 2TB for 2500$ 3200 at the high end for used.
One thing I like to mention is that out of all of these high-end laptops. The ones that look like crap are the MSI very plastic looking in flimsy for the amount of money. Every other laptop with a 4080 or 4090 looks pretty decent, but the alienware I will have to say honestly is an a League of its own in terms of aesthetics
How about the thermals and display on the m18? I see alot of negative reviews about the display and temps
Add the small trackpad. Unless u r using a macbook, it just generally sucks on windows based laptops, so I think Lenovo assumed that most gamers use a mouse anyway so it doesn't really matter in the end. And I agree, using a trackpad on a win laptop has always been more of a last resort anyway (like when you forget to take your mouse).
razer is the only company that makes gaming laptops look modern. i really like lenovo legions series, but i hope they will release a creative design that would look very casual
Love your videos, Dave. I hate to miss any.
I have the ol' Legion Y740, the keyboard is so good.
Thank you mate, glad you enjoy them 😀👍
Great review! I love that Lenovo is pushing the boundaries with more inovation with that water-cooled laptop. If they make an 18 inch version later on i will sell my current notebook to get one for sure! You think there will be a Pro 9i a little down the line?
Totally agree
Excellent review, mate, and reasonable conclusion. Laptops with such a high price tag need to be near perfect, i.e., there should be no "buts" in the review. Consumers who buy this aren't your regular lot. They truly have money to burn on the next "almost" great device. In Canada, I believe it's a 5K + pricetag. Ya, no! 🙂
Yeah current pricing is insane and I do love this laptop but you are totally right, when spending this much money I shouldn’t be finding really easy things to moan about, I should be really struggling to find anything wrong with it 😀
I mean, it’s kind of hard to really find any drawbacks on this laptop other than the speakers being sub par. I enabled Dolby Atmos on mine and they sound great now. I have the 4090 9i with 64gb ram. The laptop is insane. Sure, a bit on the premium side cost wise but the pros are somewhat easily being ignored besides the obvious. It’s easier to generate a clickbait video to garner revenue off of something innovative with near almost nothing to complain about. Replaced my i9 13900 3090 desktop no problem and I travel alot. An extremely unique powerful laptop and considered the best of the best right now. At the end of the day, that 9i will turn more heads sitting on a table than the others will next to it. Also, you get like $300 in Lenovo rewards points to get other nice stuff to go with it.
Thanks a lot for you doing! I'm a game developer and I'm going to purchase this laptop on sale. Now i use my old MSI GS75 9SG with Ultra wide LG monitor. I play games also and i need specs that allow me to play 3440x1440 game on my laptop. My current msi with 2080 MaxQ can't handle it :( thanks a lot for performance comparison with another high level laptops on market 👍
I like the new 9i, but I miss the clean slate look from the old 7 series & y740. There wasn't much branding too. They had to provide a clean-back option too!
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I must admit, last years legion was amazing. I was so disappointed when they dumbed the 7 down this year with a plastic chassis and all the premium features missing 😢
@@MashITTech exactly!
Watching from my Acer Nitro 5 while enjoying your content is my way to go. More videos MASH IT!
Thanks mate, plenty more videos coming soon! I have a stack of laptops I am trying to get through
I would consider 7 or 7i over it.
You have to pay extra money for the feature that doesn't work or practical. The cooling system mainly works with heatpipes and fans plus big vents. I've seen a channel test it by killing water pump and result is the same.
Yeah, I ran multiple benchmarks with gpuz running and although the cooling is good at no point could I tell when the water pump was engaging to bring down the temps! I think the 7 is a much better buy, I got mine for £2000 so literally half the price with the 4080 and i9 13900HX so literally all I am loosing is better build quality and features (which they never should have removed anyway, they had them on last years 7 so removed them to make the 9 look better!) I will do a head to head later this week so people can decide for themselves but if I was buying for me personally, I know what I would choose
You reviews are always flawless . Well said it’s too much money if i can get an Alienware similar for half the price
Yep, Alienware used to be one of the most expensive brands too, I guess we can give that crown to razer and Lenovo now 🤣
Bought a Legion 7, 2 years ago when it got released, 5900HX, rtx 3080, and it was almost 1/3 the price of this one... was going to upgrade to the Legion 9, but going for a Asus scar 18 instead i think due to the price and performance...
Loved the video! I was wondering whether there is an upcoming video on the AMD Alienware M16 with the Ryzen 7! I was looking to buy it and I always love watching your awesome reviews, keep up the great work!
Thanks mate, and yes, I really want to get one in but I currently have 7 laptops sitting in my studio that I am supposed to have reviewed 🤣 they just take me so long to make
What an intro sir. Keep upgrading intro. I just love it and i want more insane intro for upcoming laptops in your channel.❤❤
I think the RUclipsr Dave2d took apart this laptop, and had a look at the liquid cooling system. The problem was, there was no reservoir or a proper radiator to effectively cool down the circulating hot water, only the fans blowing air on the copper tubing of the liquid as it flows around. This meant that there are limits to the level of cooling that this would provide, with the system reaching saturation when all the water is at the hot temperature, resulting in the inevitable throttling.
However, if you are running a game/task for so long as to heat up an entire loop of water, you probably need to use a desktop with a radiator/dedicated egpu itself.
It feels like a late event with the ti variant around the corner. Agree about an 18” version being preferable.
Thanks for another great review! I have to be honest, this sweet machine got me a little aroused! But my Alienware M17 R4 that you helped me choose over 2 yrs ago is still an awesome rig that I never take for granted. Hoping it lasts another 5 years. Love your content.
Thanks mate and glad it is still performing well for you, the m17r4 has to be one of my favourite alienwares, no idea why they removed that lunar light keyboard with numpad, that was their best keyboard ever
Damn that intro looked and sounded so badass haha. Good job lol
I'm was going to buy Alienware x16 and got it legion 7 - RTX 3070 ti 2022. And i become fan of legion
In your opinion, which laptop has a better mini LED screen, Razer Blade or Lenovo Legion 9
lenovo is the alienware we never got
The newer ones are nice
Excellent review 🙂 Is there any noticeable mini led blooming around bright UI elements surrounded by dark background on windows desktop? What are your thoughts about miniled displays in general? Are they worth considering despite of the blooming issues? Thank you 🙂
Hello, thank you for your stunning work and detailed reviews. In terms of gaming comfort (especially long sessions), would you recommend Legion Pro 7 16 over Alienware m18? For long gaming sessions, what laptop would you recommend? Thank you again!
I would much rather have a vapor chamber and premium speakers with a large trackpad instead of the gimmicky "water cooling" that seems to do nothing at all
Could you really see a notable difference in temps with the water cooler ? Looking online, the water cooler loop does not go over any radiators, its just crosses one of the air heat pipes. Seems more marketing than anything else...
I can’t no. The cooling is very good but in all my testing I couldn’t see a point where the cooler was cutting in and reducing the temperature
I prefer the 7s chassis. Looks more sleek you’d be out of place anywhere with this Xbox looking thing.
Xbox looking thing?
Would you happen to have a Asus ROG Strix Scar 16"? I would like to see a comparison there since they both have mini-LED panels, 4080/4090 GPU config, along with 32 or 64GB of RAM as well. It's almost a 1k difference in the US since the ASUS model with the 4090 is around 3500-ish. Great video by the way.
Thanks mate, no, I haven’t had a chance to get the scar in yet due to the stupid prices in the U.K.! Maybe one day asus will send me review units 🥲
I did some research, and in a weird twist, Lenovo nailed the price in India, as the competitors are either overpriced or unavailable.
The Legion 9i with RTX 4080, 32 GB RAM, and 1 TB SSD costs ₹374,736 ($4,528), which feels uber expensive. However, the competition is also more or less the same way:
1. The Alienware x16 laptop with same RAM and SSD specs costs ₹395,190 ($4,775). The display is not as good as the Lenovo, but the mechanical keyboard might be something to think about.
2. The Alienware m16 R1 laptop with the same RAM and SSD costs ₹329,989 ($3,987). Again, there is the issue of the display being behind the Lenovo, but the upgradability with RAM and SSD access is again a step ahead. Not to mention the lack of USB power delivery on the Alienware laptop.
3. Razer doesn't sell in India, and importing anything from Razer global is a financial suicide, as Indian customs would intercept the parcel and levy an import duty of well over 75% of the purchase price at the point of intercept (airport/post).
4. Asus ROG Strix Scar 16 (2023) is the only laptop which significantly undercuts the Lenovo on the price point, with a price of ₹280,000 ($3,383). But the 2023 model doesn't have the mini-LED panel (it only came in 2024), and the availability of the laptop is incredibly spotty with the laptop routinely going out of stock, and a lack of customization options during purchase, both of which Lenovo India does really well.
So, Lenovo did end up hitting a home run in India, with it getting a good response in India among the elite gaming community.
This is a great laptop. I don't like the ram placement but I understand the reason. The speakers are not a surprise, most of the windows laptops have terrible speakers. Everything else is actually really good.
Yeah, agreed and the speakers are always an after thought on windows gaming laptops, but when you spend this much money couldn’t they spend more than $2 for a set of speakers 😂
@@MashITTech Alienware did well with their X16 speakers this year. Lenovo could learn a few things from them.
Great review. I think Lenovo is probably trying too hard, and they have to jack up the price to cover the cost of engineering design. I am really hoping the water pump is more usable after a few iterations... Temperatures for VRAM and CPU seem to be a bigger issue these days.
Yeah totally agree. It’s nice they are trying to push the boundaries but this doesn’t feel like it is making a significant impact
Not really. IT IS THE BEST. Just that it depends on which country you are in :) Price varies ALOT!
In the 4090 config, being used for gaming any no editing, which would be better, the 64gb 5600 RAM or the 32gb 6400?
For pure gaming 32gb 6400 will be slightly faster but we are talking minimal differences!
Hello, thank you for your videos, since you give an exact and detailed explanation, although I see them with subtitles since I am Cuban and I don't understand English, could you make a video explaining how to make an undervolt for the Legion 7i pro with the i9- 13900HX, I have it with the 4070 version and I added 64GB of ram at 5600MHz but it reads them at 5200MHz, I would like to do an undervol to lower the i9 temperatures a little, which are vastly high for my taste, thank you and have a good day.
of course, leave it with me
Mash IT always helpful!!!!! thank you so much
good afternoon. I watched your review very clearly, keep up the good work. I can’t choose between Legion 7gen 7 r7 6800h rx 6850m xt(140w) vs Legion 5 pro core i7 13700hx and rtx 4060. What should I choose if I do graphic design photoshop and 4k video editing. Will there be a problem with 8vram in the future and with an explanation. Thank you
Personally I would get the legion pro 5 or 5i. the 7840HX or 13700HX cpus are much more powerful. The 6850m has much more VRAM but Nvidia cards are so much better than AMD for productivity work even at 8gb the Nvidia is the better option
Wow at 140w it has scored similar to 2021 Legion 7 with RTX 3080 165w in Timespy
I just wish they give the 7i the mini led and charge like $150 more and I'm all set. But that $4k problem range is too much :/ ( even though it's premium).
The 7i is upper mid-range. I can see why they don't do that.
Yeah, they deliberately dumbed the 7 down this year to make way for the 9, last years 7 was much more premium than this years. Though with that said, you can’t complain about the performance on the 7, can’t wait to see how they perform against each other! Just about to start the testing
@@MashITTechLooking forward to it. if the 9i performs the same and the 7i, then I'll just buy an ultrawide monitor with it
I had the Levono legion 7. HAD! The motherboard fried when I was doing a Levono update. Only lasted 5 months.
Sorry to hear that 😢
I had for 2 years and still alive and temperature are the same like in the begining of it's life.
3:00 for me it's unacceptable because it forces to use external keyboard to make playing comfortable, what's the point of this huge space above keyboard?
Does screen open flat as it was on Legion 7?
Dave, how were you able get the CPU Overclock working in Vantage? Every time I try to use it, it asks to install driver, sends me to the vantage updater and it finds no new drivers.
I had the same problem. In the end I downloaded intel xtu which fixed the problem. Though I had to change the undervolt protection in bios and turn off core isolation which is the same on all these new 13th gen laptops 👍 if you get stuck give me a shout
@@MashITTech Cheers Dave! Thank you for getting back to me!
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
Wish they didn't move the keyboard for the " water loop"
There is nothing to cool the water down. So once the water hits the same temp as the cpu you are paying for warm water being circulated round for nothing ?. You can unplug the pump on the loop and the laptop performs the same, deffinetly a gimmick
From my testing as good as the cooling is, I couldn’t see any discernible difference from when the pump allegedly kicks in
I was planning on buying this laptop but I guess I changed my mind now
I think with a decent discount code it would be worth it but not at 4k
I got legion 7 rtx 3070Ti, 32gb Ram 2TB SSD model 2022 at 2700 $
If you use grey wallpaper do you see mini led dots?
If possible try the acer predator triton 17x, it also has mini led
I will see if it’s available in the U.K. 👍
Hi there Mash IT i just bought the legion 7i pro any thoughts if i did a good choice i went with an i9 and a 4080 despite me rrying to get an x16 or an m16 or even this beast of an legion 9i i still think i did good huying that legion what do you think? Keep it up ❤
I have exactly the same legion 7 as you and it’s amazing performance wise. I feel sad they took away the port lights and metal build but considering the price it’s probably the best value 4080 laptop this year
Was able to get this for 3400 usd with 4090 64 gb mem and 2tb storage at that price its a great laptop
Whatever Lenovo give, But Alienware legacy can never be broken, The brand value is much much higher than any gaming laptop in the world, Alienware is always be head Turner
Looking at getting one would the Pro 7i or this one be better cant get a good answer?
If the comparison video didn't help you decide then in a nutshell, 7i is much cheaper with same performance. Only reason to buy 9 is you love the look of it and need the mini LED screen :)
@@MashITTech okay thank you very much. I also noticed the 7i has 240hz screen so i think im just going to go with the 7i as the gen 9 can get 32gb DDR5 ram so its not much of a difference. Thank you the videos help me alot!
Which better to buy, Legion 9i or razor 16 2023? 😐
Both are amazing but I prefer the Blade 16 for the compact chassis, facial recognition, better speakers and better balanced performance mode. Screen is better on the legion though
@@MashITTech thank you ❤️
I’m good with my pro 7 4080 for half the price. Definitely not worth $4k+ for what it comes with
Yeah, my pro 7 was almost identical specs was exactly half the price 😂 just started the side by side benchmarking
Any thoughts on the Slim 5 14?
I can’t get hold of one in the U.K. yet 😢
Lenovo has stolen me from Alienware lol, I'm a Legion 5 pro and I love it. I might look into a legion 9 in the future
Yeah, I have been very impressed with the legion for the last couple of years. With regards to Alienware, I am not really sure what is going on there at the moment! This years line up is really odd, and where is the x18!?!
@@MashITTech agreed! They got rid of the x17 without a proper replacement, x16 is basically the x15 with a 16:10 aspect ratio right?
Yep, that’s totally right, I was expecting an x18 to replace the x17 but instead if you want a large laptop you now have to buy the midrange m18, seems odd
dave2d says, that liquid cooling its not benefit at all, and I also must says its too expensive for that kind of price. carbon forge? i tho legion 7 2022 was made by all aluminium and its like more premium than this.
He didn't do any testing.
He just assumed it wouldn't make a difference.
Not worth it. The Legion Pro 7i RTX4080 has very similar performance and I had change left over for a 32" Samsung mini led monitor!
Nice intro
With ryzen it should be perfect!
Which is thinner and more portable this or the legion 7i?
Although the 9 is thinner the fact it is deeper makes the 7i more portable
@@MashITTech hanks for the info! The 140w charger that comes with the legion 9 will that work with the 7i?
@dakotaconcepcion5398 it sure will if you can find it for sale
@@MashITTech I have I’m actually on the website now I’m deciding between the legion 7i with 4090 and 2tb storage 32gb ddr for 2900
Or the legion 9i with 4080 2tb storage 32gb ddr for 3100 HELP please 🙏🙏 huge purchase for me and it being a hit portable is part of the decision too
The 2900 price for the 4090 legion 7i also includes the 140w charger
I really dont understand why they chose to put this idea into such a small chassi. Why not go 18 inch and utilize the extra space to actually make the water cooling legitimately functional instead of a gimmick? increase the space for the numpad, and the wrist palm rest? I swear this laptop is 1 step forward and 5 steps backward.
totally agree! Its a good laptop but its like Lenovo think only 16" exists for gaming laptops these days
Too many people talking about water cooling but no one show it
It’s because you need to take the whole motherboard out to show it. I wasn’t prepared to do that to my new 4K laptop sorry
@@MashITTech
Well looks no one prepared
Yeah, I guess it’s because it is a risk to damage the laptop to make the video, I am happy opening it up if there is a problem but I didn’t want to risk damaging the laptop to show the cooler, we are a small channel and I have to buy all the laptops myself, they aren’t review units
@@MashITTech
No worry mate keep up the good work
In Russia this model with 4090 cost less then 3000$. (around 3000$). Now I use 7i 2023 (2500$) with 4080 and 7 2021 with 3070 (1300$).
Wow that is mental! I paid much more for the 4080 😢
@@MashITTech How can I give you link? Maybe post cost will be small...
В каком магазине оно столько стоит? 😮
will there be any legion slim 9i from next year?
Haha I wouldn’t be surprised! I just picked up the slim 7 2023 and man I am loving it! Just need to find the time to get the review done
ohh sure
that would be cool
i want to ask you a question does playing games a lot damages laptop i play 2-3 hours a days valorant around 55-60 degree centigrade \@@MashITTech
No mate, that will be fine and those temps are not even stressing the laptop! As long as you look after it and make sure the vents don’t get caked in dust it should last for years (unless you get really unlucky). I had an alienware that survived 8 years heavy gaming use and would still be working now if I hadn’t stripped it down for parts
thanks sir
recently from few hours ago while i am watching youtube screen is a little bit like little flikerring but whule watcihing gameplay recorded osd and gaming it doesnt
inoticed while wathcing your legion 91 viode
can u tell me what happened
@@MashITTech
and also flikering happens only when screen is half opened but not in full screreen what is happening
Fingerprint is Windows Hello… maybe you mean Face ID?
5:43 beautiful, like nails on a chalk board😃🙃
🤣
For this price Razer 16 is a bit better 😛
Agreed, I wouldn’t switch my blade 16 for this one.
Does razer 16 2023 have a water cooling?
@@korober No, but. Who cares about watercooling that does not improve anything :D
"This incredibly expensive laptop..." @0:05 is LOL. But also 😭$$$...
Yeah pricing is insane, I am hoping to see a decent Lenovo sale or coupon soon then they might be worth a buy 😂
I was really looking forward to this laptop but it's very disappointing
maybe they'll get it right next time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wait I heard the water cooling was a gimmick
It does feel a bit like a gimmick. The cooling is good in this model but I don’t think it’s the pump that’s the determining factor
Darn it! I promised my nephew I would buy him a new gaming laptop so now if I buy one of these for myself I'll have to buy him one arghhhhhh why do I say these things 🤣🤣
Haha ask if they will do you a 2 for 1 deal 😂
I'm gonna try lol @@MashITTech
i dont think i love that lid
I didn’t in pictures but it really grew on me! Guess you have some RUclips catch up time 😀
@@MashITTech i am an important businessman
its not actually water cooled though. like at all. false marketing and a outright lie.
своих 4000 дол стоит однозначно
There are a lot of good laptops under 2k. It is too much.
I managed to get the legion 7 with i9 and 4080 for 2k, half the price of this one so yes definitely 👍
No 17' sux
"buys $4k laptop. Turns settings down to max performance." lol
huh?
Most shooter games are all about fps so people buy the most powerful stuff and turn the settings all the way down to get the best performance out of the machine. lol. I still have an old 1050ti so I technically have to but I would at least try high settings if I could afford one of these. heheheh. @@MashITTech
lol I see, I thought I had benchmarked it wrong for a second 🤣 I always use max settings when I bench mark to see what it is capable of but never play at those settings either as I love high FPS 👍
I saw that thing at micro center. Junky Junk! That corky cover looks like dog. It’s a crappy laptop. Who the H was the designer? Terrible design and look🤮
Ripoff at this price. Remember, the performance is almost identical to 7 pro!
Don’t buy this, buy Alienware M18…
Talk to me can you explain to me why
@@YoshiIamair so, it is only my experience.
I actually had 2 Legions before decided to get m18. First region had a deflecting trackpad, its replacement had some issues with GPU. Both of those laptops were above 3k and had 16” panels ( amazing panel, but still).
After both Legions came with diffracts I decided to give Dell a chance.
Got m18 ( 18” panel) with 4090 for under 3k. Used some Dell sale discount ($350) and some cash back from my credit card… all and all was $2750…
In my opinion the build quality is much better than Lenovo and the screen is 18” instead of 16” on legion. Also it is a bit cheaper …
My only issue with it , is that the logic board is inverted, therefore, you must take the whole motherboard out in order to change thermals…
Also, do to the screen size 18” it’s a CHINKY BOY!
Bottom line, I think build quality and QC is better than Lenovo.
That is my experience:)?hope it helps …