Are We Really Becoming Pagans Again? : The Theology Pugcast Episode 310
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- On today's show Tom brings along Paul Kingsnorth’s article, The Illusion of a Pagan West, for the Pugs to engage. Topics delved into range from why we still talk about Roman Civilization to the theatrics of subversive woke culture. Most interesting is Kingsnorth’s claim that we are not returning to paganism but are locked into to a shallow culture which subverts Christianity all the while being indebted to its ethical legacy, ending with nothing really worth living or dying for.
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Glen Sunshine is right on the money at 39:07 . No matter how unserious might be the heart attitudes of many who casually adopt pagan symbology as a fashion statement or tribal identity marker, the unseen reality of the powers they are invoking is perfectly serious and apt to have serious consequences in the real world (for a time). We should be sober minded about this without being fearful.
Another great discussion. What I felt was missing was any reference to Kierkegaard's three spheres: the aesthetic, the ethical, and the religious, and how they promote different levels of commitment in ascending order from the first to the last. The other omission was Heidegger's belief that a sign of nihilism having run its course would be to eliminate all meaningful differences, hence contemporary 'worldviews' lacking seriousness and thus limited to engaging with the serial stimuli of the aesthetic sphere.
These would certainly have added to the content. I’ll aim to get into some of these figures in other episodes. Thanks!
Corrupting the Image III by Dr. Douglas Hamp is a great book about hybridization and/or trans-humanism. I highly recommend it.
Great Stuff fellas
the creation story, with the divine image, is key to the wisdom of our creation, to the recognition of the our true nature.
I was wondering when you guys would FINALLY discover PK. He’s brilliant with many interesting ideas worth deep contemplation, including The Machine. And he’s going to be in the US this month (October). Good going.
We have known of him for years. But I’m glad we ‘finally’ did a show on him. Thanks for the info. 👍
Wow. Fantastic discussion.
Interesting stuff brothers. I didn't imagine that there are some Christians who think transhumanism can be part of the process of glorification. This is a mockery of the resurrected body of Christ.
First visit to your space by this old White Woman. I am enjoying the discussion very much.
Thank you for your thoughts, gentlemen. My concern is that, while our pagan culture has been quite Christianized (as, say, Tom Holland points out), our Christianity has been quite paganized. This is an old problem: the kings of Israel were liable to syncretism, and the Temple was not immune to it, either. In the 1980s we were rightwardly political, calling it God's will, and now we are leftwardly political, calling it God's will. We're always looking to build Herrnhut, always using the wrong tools for our wrong goals, and so always failing, and always blaming someone and something else than universal human sin.
That's where we must work. Jesus never tried to 'dismantle' anything, not even Rome. He worked to build the Kingdom, one heart at a time. He was always positive, we are always negative. So is hell.
Man, I love Temple of Doom
the colosseum was an entertainment venue, for the people. it remains a monument to the need to placate the mob.
Do interview with Joseph Minich on atheism.
The only reasons for having the ability to see in extended EM wavelengths is for space travel or warfare. Anything else would be vanity.
Read RED Rising this blends the Roman Empire with trans humanism and narratively takes cues from Braveheart, hunger games, and ends game
Empire is back. The dark patch is the 1000 yr period when satan was bound.
Since France 1790 ;-(
The Paterfamilias was the oldest Male member of a family. He had absolute power and authority over all the members of his house. Even power over life and death. Roman culture was as patriarchal as it gets. We are not like the Romans. You confuse the late Roman cultural decay for the original foundation of their culture.
ruclips.net/video/Kz2AnsGtf7g/видео.html Here is an interesting academic/theological discussion of how we are not that far from the Roman Empire.
Praise Amaterasu!
Kingsworth might find no meaning or purpose in Pagan religion.
I do.
Please consider that you might be deceived, and not by anything playful.
@@bobtaylor170 I consider all possibilities, and find Kingsworth unpersuasive.
@@kenofken9458 2 Corinthians 4: 3,4.
@@bobtaylor170 First Book of Charlie (Sheen):
"I'm dealing with fools and trolls and soft targets. It's just strafing runs in my underwear before my first cup of coffee. I don't have time for these clowns."