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  • @michaelgalvin1024
    @michaelgalvin1024 6 лет назад +511

    In Australia one of our roadside assistance companies, NRMA, has emergency charging equipped motor bikes for EVs that have run out of charge, charging enough to get the EV to the closest charger. Now that’s forward thinking of NRMA

    • @FutureSystem738
      @FutureSystem738 6 лет назад +24

      Michael Galvin Absolutely!
      There is also no reason why you couldn’t carry a 2kVa inverter generator (Yamaha, or Honda) in the back if you KNEW you’d be really pushing the limits. It would take a long time to charge significant range, but might at least get you out of trouble if you did say 10mins of charging.
      I think the most important thing is to immediately park safely off the road when power is reduced- at least you get more warning than when an ICE splutters and coughs!

    • @michaelgalvin1024
      @michaelgalvin1024 6 лет назад

      That’s it😊

    • @cr4zygoose201
      @cr4zygoose201 6 лет назад +1

      Australia is awesome lol

    • @mattlane2282
      @mattlane2282 6 лет назад +16

      forward thinking would be not being an asshole and running out of charge

    • @PeterDobbinga
      @PeterDobbinga 6 лет назад +7

      In the Netherlands they do exactly the same. It is way smarter than using a tow truck and it is less expensive as well

  • @ProfessorOzone
    @ProfessorOzone 6 лет назад +284

    LOL. It may be ok to run out in San Diego, but in Florida, the nearest supercharger to me is 80 miles away. EDIT: a word.

    • @GarthGoldberg
      @GarthGoldberg 6 лет назад +14

      AAA will tow me 3 miles. Then it's bucks a mile.

    • @moshpitsonly2778
      @moshpitsonly2778 5 лет назад +4

      ProfessorOzone lmao how I live in tennessee and the closest one is 40 miles away and I live in Tennessee😂

    • @Sean3D2Y
      @Sean3D2Y 5 лет назад +1

      I'm in FL as well but luckily my nearest charger is like 3 miles away😁

    • @clu4u
      @clu4u 5 лет назад +3

      Garth Goldberg, AAA+ will tow you 100 miles, it’s only $40 more

    • @jaydenalexander8250
      @jaydenalexander8250 5 лет назад +1

      ProfessorOzone that’s crazy I live in kansas and mine is only like 16mile

  • @Mayhemm007
    @Mayhemm007 5 лет назад +41

    This is all well and good as long as:
    1) You're within sight of a supercharger
    2) You can contact a towing company familiar with EVs and their quirks
    3) The ground is relatively flat and the weather is nice

  • @oldrrocr
    @oldrrocr 6 лет назад +12

    Ben, thanks for demonstrating what one should NEVER do in a Tesla - or any car for that matter.

  • @xzibit8614
    @xzibit8614 6 лет назад +19

    310 is if you have the Aero wheel covers. There's a 10% hit without them. So spot on actually

  • @BrianJoslyn
    @BrianJoslyn 5 лет назад +1

    There's a Canadian Tesla vlogger that vlogged when he ran out of power. The two truck that came was one with those bars that are positioned around the four tires. The actual tow on the truck is connected to the bars at one end and the bars at the other end are 'free flow' with wheels. So it's very similar to a flat bed and doesn't harm the vehicle in any way.

    • @bijupegubijupegu3719
      @bijupegubijupegu3719 5 лет назад

      New stories

    • @BrianJoslyn
      @BrianJoslyn 5 лет назад

      No, not new at all. Flat bed tows for Tesla's have been 'the norm' since well before the Canadian vlogger I mentioned above having his towed as I described above.

  • @snigbrorod
    @snigbrorod 5 лет назад +5

    I had this experience last night. The tow truck arrived and he was able to put it into neutral to pull it up the ramp. This involves pressing the brake and moving the stalk down gently for 2 seconds. Didn't use the towing feature on the screen. When it came time to bring it off the ramp at the charger however, the battery was so dead that he could not get it into neutral and had to put skids under the tires to shimmy it off the ramp. I don't know how he would have gotten it onto the ramp without the neutral setting.

  • @cristiansoutside
    @cristiansoutside 6 лет назад +21

    He literally called a tow truck for a RUclips video. This man is insane and I’m not leaving this channel ever. Thanks man sick video!!!

  • @dm2118
    @dm2118 6 лет назад +166

    Ben - Everything you tried is powered by the 12v battery so until it is exhausted you'll have those functions

    • @RisibleVolatile
      @RisibleVolatile 6 лет назад +2

      D M Same as an ICE car then!

    • @kaylamitchell1982
      @kaylamitchell1982 6 лет назад +5

      D M so they basically use a different battery to the motors?

    • @EndstyleGG
      @EndstyleGG 6 лет назад +1

      K Z its a 400+ V not 220

    • @Kimoto504
      @Kimoto504 6 лет назад +1

      @@kaylamitchell1982 12V runs all the common stuff in and around the car (lights, A/C blower, power windows, etc). It's also there as a type of safety backup. The safety is in case you drain the big drive ("traction") battery and systems to control high voltage energizing.

    • @wpautz
      @wpautz 5 лет назад +1

      @@Kimoto504 so, does the big battery recharge the small battery?
      I'm guessing there's no alternator.

  • @kidkickz5618
    @kidkickz5618 Год назад +1

    Ran out of battery on the highway could not figure out how to put the car in neutral your video saved me big thanks

  • @frederickhargro5153
    @frederickhargro5153 5 лет назад +54

    Why does Tesla not develop a solar panel roof for it's cars, so when it setting in direct sun light it is slowly charging

    • @ps5594
      @ps5594 5 лет назад +14

      Then how will they make money off of people who pay for charging ? But good idea and also maybe it wouldn't be strong enough to power a car lol

    • @kevingriffith3801
      @kevingriffith3801 5 лет назад +10

      You would need a pretty good sized array to produce the voltage & current to charge the car. Toyota did this on one of their series of Prius models, but it only powered the climate control system (just the fan) to reduce the heat buildup in the car. There wasn't enough power by the solar array to do anything else. Secondly the sun does a lot of damage to paint and the clear coat over time. What do you do with the panel once uV has degraded coating over the top? The coatings that would be used on cars won't be the same as used on PV arrays on buildings. Not sexy...

    • @ukdashcamvideos
      @ukdashcamvideos 5 лет назад +6

      I’m pretty sure they are working on this technology secretly

    • @malayalamwriter
      @malayalamwriter 5 лет назад +3

      What about night driving?

    • @frodobaggins2852
      @frodobaggins2852 4 года назад

      To charge a car, with the current solar tefhnology, we would need a panel which is really big and it would seriousely affect the aerodynamics of the car..

  • @tecnocato
    @tecnocato 6 лет назад +231

    IDEA: PowerWall tow trucks...
    Imagine tow trucks with 1, 2 or 3 PowerWalls equipped with a fast charging interface to provide juice for either the closest station or home, whichever is closest. Then tow trucks charge them for free. Whoever joins gets them a special rate and get service priority.

    • @McMicGera
      @McMicGera 6 лет назад +35

      Nobody will need them. You can see the range your car will do all the time and you've got a nav to lead the way to the next (super)charger. So as long as you do not ignore that information, you will never run out of charge. Same with petrol cars.

    • @MegaBbqbbq
      @MegaBbqbbq 6 лет назад +7

      why free?

    • @tecnocato
      @tecnocato 6 лет назад +3

      dave scott It would be part of the service contract for approved contractors and they get to charge for free the amount they fill on emergency service orders. Just an idea and even good for areas without super chargers.

    • @zolikoff
      @zolikoff 6 лет назад +7

      Extra batteries just to save cars out of juice.
      More time taken than a regular tow.
      More expensive overall.
      Why not just put a range extender into the EV? Never get stranded. No need for tow.

    • @tecnocato
      @tecnocato 6 лет назад +3

      zolikoff Because you do not want to haul around something you will actually never gonna use in a 280-310 mile range car.

  • @TheMadmetalord
    @TheMadmetalord 6 лет назад +86

    The model 3 has a permanent magnet motor and if you towing the car on a ramp or pushing it basically generates so much current that without the cooling fluid around the motor it will burn the motor windings and the inverters. That’s why the only allow 20 minutes time because that’s the amount of time it takes to burn your electric drive unit. I would take these serious otherwise you would cause a fire or permanently damage the insulations of your motor.

    • @ahaveland
      @ahaveland 6 лет назад +21

      Then the power generated from the motors should power the coolant pump and charge the cells. The energy and heat generated is very closely correlated to the speed of towing, so 20 minutes is purely arbitrary.

    • @josealbreyes
      @josealbreyes 6 лет назад +13

      We are of course talking about pushing here. The amount of heat generated by pushing the car to the nearest outlet should not damage it in any way.

    • @waynerussell6401
      @waynerussell6401 6 лет назад +2

      Reluctance motors don't overheat.

    • @TheMadmetalord
      @TheMadmetalord 6 лет назад +16

      When the car runs out of battery, by default the battery contactors are open and no current can go to the battery. At this point the inverter is put into active short circuit mode which means the bottom side IGBTs are closed and the top sides are open. By rotating the wheels of the car by pushing or towing, the permanent magnets create a field on the stator and because the inverter is in active short circuit you will have a short circuit current which is very high (in order of 200-300A) starts circulating between the phase winding of the motor and the bottom side IGBTs of the inverter and heats these two very rapidly. Without the chillers working and pumps pushing coolant you will damage both components. That’s why most of the permanent magnet cars do not allow towing or limit the time of towing.

    • @jaslarja
      @jaslarja 6 лет назад +2

      The induction motor, which is in all Teslas, doesn’t have a permanent magnet. The (rotating) magnetic field comes with the induction

  • @jeffreythurnau6796
    @jeffreythurnau6796 6 лет назад +126

    I read somewhere that you lose about 10% (30 miles) of freeway range by not using the stock tires with the stock aero wheel covers. Add that to your 280 mile actual freeway range and you get the advertised 310 mile range. Again Tesla seems like they aren’t over hyping their range performance. Ben, thanks for doing this experiment with Tess. You ran your car out of juice so we don’t have to😉.

    • @cangripro
      @cangripro 6 лет назад +9

      Exactly I love how they are so transparent with their vehicle capabilities. Truth.! So now that we know how truthfull they are. Imagine the roadster 2.0 how Elon said it will have 620 mile range. And 1.9 seconds to 60. 😯😯😯

    • @TF-Times
      @TF-Times 6 лет назад +3

      Yes that is correct.

    • @Kimoto504
      @Kimoto504 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah, they actually under sell a bit like German luxury car companies do.

    • @TheRealJimmy831
      @TheRealJimmy831 5 лет назад

      Someone will still end up running out juice. If they watched this video or not, I can't comment on that LOL

    • @leonardguillory2041
      @leonardguillory2041 2 года назад

      So. Who's gonna do a video advocating for The Rest of the Country?

  • @tomtompkins6779
    @tomtompkins6779 5 лет назад +130

    The same thing that happens when you run out of gas?

    • @yourstatementisrightunlike7366
      @yourstatementisrightunlike7366 4 года назад +26

      The problem I see with EVs right now is that it takes too long for them to charge, it takes what 5 minutes at the most to fully fill your car up with gas? They're still cool though.

    • @Theendlessriver77
      @Theendlessriver77 4 года назад +2

      I was going to make this same comment.

    • @ziggy2shus624
      @ziggy2shus624 4 года назад +10

      No, they just put in a gallon of gas, and you drive to the nearest gas station.
      But, running out of gas can destroy your fuel pump, which uses the gas as a lubricant. The pig headed auto makes now put the fuel pump in the gas tank(????), which can cost a hundreds of dollars to replace in some cars.

    • @okuratwarmianski7993
      @okuratwarmianski7993 4 года назад +6

      @Yovani H. And you can destroy battery in only 6 years! How awesome...

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 4 года назад +6

      Well you do have more options. There isn't a tow mode time limit and then you can walk to get a milk jug of gas at the nearest station. Running out of charge in an EV is a no go.

  • @hungtrinh83
    @hungtrinh83 8 месяцев назад +1

    Yes. Over estimate for sure. You should substract 30 miles or 10% off the estimated level. My standard model 3 can only do 240 fully charge. Dont risk yourself and please dont wait until it is too late

  • @Chainyanker007
    @Chainyanker007 5 лет назад +4

    Interesting test, however I read a couple of years ago that a software update warns the driver when the remaining charge gets too low and directs him/her to the nearest Tesla charge station. If you ignore it and later find out you are out of juice it’s your fault for not taking the advice of the car. Now that the available charge locations in the US is greatly expanded and will be even more so by year end 2019 (see Tesla’s global network map, impressive) there is no reason to run out of juice. Public charge stations are also expanding and app(s) are available to locate these as well.

  • @bilaliz
    @bilaliz 3 года назад +1

    Well
    Here I am just 6 miles south of Beatty NV on hwy after running out of juice, apparently the battery died due to cold weather in the Death Valley. (I know the irony lol) no tow truck company in town. Been stuck here on the side of the road for last 4 hours because CAA can't find a company with the ability to come out here. So yeah... It is a big deal lol

  • @tjam4229
    @tjam4229 6 лет назад +3

    You had the “jet turbo fan” (? lol) rims on there. If you would’ve had the wheel covers that Tesla uses to get the rating of 310 miles with a full charge, you probably would’ve made 310 miles too
    It’s crazy how accurate Tesla’s range estimate is.

  • @paulrobinson3528
    @paulrobinson3528 2 года назад +1

    How is it moving? You said you couldn't get it out of park? How long does tow mode last then?

  • @007Kellam
    @007Kellam 6 лет назад +15

    For some reason, looking at the thumbnail, I thought you were going to try to recharge it by pushing it while using regen 😂 I need some sleep

  • @geniecats
    @geniecats 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing. I got stranded in Midland Texas. I supposed to exit at 131 but the car stops on exit 136. So i have no other options but to call a tow truck.

  • @rlbonham
    @rlbonham 6 лет назад +10

    Thanks for this test and info Ben!!! Questions - Couldn't you have shut it down from the service window, rather than the "reboot"? Did you have to do anything to free up the wheels so they could load it up, and then you pushed it to the charger? While you were charging was the Tesla on the whole time after you "rebooted"? Just wondering if it was all ready for you after you charged up, or if you had to do anything to "clear" it after draining it that low?

  • @crazyobservations3080
    @crazyobservations3080 6 лет назад +2

    In a conventional vehicle you can just walk to the nearest gas station get a can of gas and be on your way. Insurance with road side assistance will bring you some gas to get you on your way. The EV still has a few problems to work out. Perhaps in the future tow and recover vehicles will be equipped with a gen or on board batt to charge the car enough to get you to a charge station

  • @radiotvhistory
    @radiotvhistory 6 лет назад +24

    In my combined 40 years gasoline/electric driving career, I NEVER ran out of juice! There is something called "common sense", and a thing called "always keep enough reserve gasoline/charge to reach the next station" ! And by the way, Tesla navigation tells you exactly where you should charge next to keep going without running out of juice! So for all those who might get confused by this video, don't worry, use the same technique you use with a gasoline car to prevent having a similar situation. And to Ben: I don't think such videos are fair toward Tesla (or any other EV brand), you know that range is influenced by temperature, wind, terrain and speed, and many of these factors do influence gasoline cars as well. My last German ICE car had an advertised range of 375 miles, which I never managed to achieve, not even close! The best I have ever achieved was around 300 miles before the warning light started blinking to warn me that I only had 20 miles buffer left!

    • @helipilotpat
      @helipilotpat 6 лет назад +1

      @Ben: Would help to make some comments at the end of the video concerning these points for clarification.

    • @andrewfreeman88
      @andrewfreeman88 6 лет назад +2

      and everyone clapped.....

  • @MrACDude
    @MrACDude 6 лет назад +2

    It took me almost a year to trust the route guidance and battery percentage in my Model S. The charge indicator has come a long way in the last year and a half, it is really accurate now and even takes hill climbing into account! BTW, where is that supercharger? All of the ones I have been to are back in. That configuration is better if you are towing.

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 6 лет назад +8

    In the middle of the road in a snow storm with no heat would be life threatening.
    Tow companies should have some sort of portable chargers on board that could give you 50 or so miles to get to a charging station and heat or air-conditioning.
    I suspect eventually they will.
    Tesla must increase the tow mode time to 2 hours at least immediately, and allow neutral anytime.
    Thanks for the info.
    279 is not bad for 65 mph steady state. on good weather and flat terrain.

    • @grunt98444
      @grunt98444 6 лет назад +5

      The same can be said of a clueless driver who let their ICE car run out of gas" in a snow storm"

  • @glitchthecat5011
    @glitchthecat5011 2 года назад +1

    You said you strapped the front tires...but I didn't see any strap..did you literally drive it upon the flatbed?lol..

  • @CubbyTech
    @CubbyTech 6 лет назад +11

    Thanks for showing us what NOT to do. Taking the battery down that low, then supercharging will permanently damage it to some extent. Surprised you didn't show the supercharger charge rate when you plugged it in - it should of started out quite low for at least a few minutes to let the battery recover from the stress.

    • @ThatSB
      @ThatSB 2 года назад

      So you are saying the charger recognizes this.... so how did he do anything he shouldnt?

    • @CubbyTech
      @CubbyTech 2 года назад +1

      @@ThatSB It's much easier on the battery to be gradually recharged from a 'slow' level 2 charger instead of shoving massive amounts of current back into it. The car (and internal charger) knows this, and will not allow 'normal' supercharger current until the charge + buffer is more than ~7% and the battery is not too hot.

  • @jayfromaz
    @jayfromaz 6 лет назад +1

    I think the trick would be to carefully plan out any Journey. Here in the West, we have very long drives between destinations. What would worry me would be traffic delays, wind, and mountains which would all probably lower my total mileage. So true a large extent it would be no different than driving a gas-powered car. So the solution would be just like in a gas-powered car, is to always top off the car rather than risk running out of gas or in this case running out of battery power.

  • @user-bp5vz8eg5r
    @user-bp5vz8eg5r 5 лет назад +4

    I am a brand new Tesla 3 owner and this was my biggest fear. Thank you soooo much for this info. It has put my mind at ease that there are options. It was nice that you showed the warnings on the screen so I won't panic if I ever see it. Great job guys!!!!

  • @fmflores2000
    @fmflores2000 2 года назад +1

    Another technique to extend your battery is get behind a semi :) I tried this on hway 5 going back to Sacramento driving from LA.

  • @jnauttube
    @jnauttube 6 лет назад +3

    Just walk down to the nearest service station with a gas can and... oh, wait. Carry on.

  • @chrismd00
    @chrismd00 6 лет назад +1

    So if you had no power to put it into tow mode, were the brakes on while it was towed?

  • @TheGizmoGarage
    @TheGizmoGarage 6 лет назад +30

    Preordered the standard range model... I commute 17 miles daily... Plan to charge at night everyday. So the chance of Tesla dying out of battery during commute is... 0%

    • @justinn5047
      @justinn5047 6 лет назад +6

      Li Fan it is not good to charge the battery frequently, maybe charge it when it get around 50 miles left.

    • @benjaminsall3271
      @benjaminsall3271 6 лет назад +2

      Justin N Wrong.. That was with nickel-metalhydrid batteries. Li-po batteries should be "maintenance-charged" meaning connected to a charger frequently although should be run through every now and then to "exercise" the battery

    • @justinn5047
      @justinn5047 6 лет назад

      Benjamin Säll this isn’t Lipo battery’s, Tesla uses lithium ion battery’s, it’s basically a phone

    • @benjaminsall3271
      @benjaminsall3271 6 лет назад

      Justin N Ohh yeah I meant Li-ion

    • @iamsam8446
      @iamsam8446 6 лет назад

      The Li-ion batteries and the car's electronics make best use of the batteries so you get long life out of them, whether you charge it frequently or not.

  • @adam-user
    @adam-user 6 лет назад +4

    Ben, have you achieved 279 miles or range (100% down to 0%) by cruising at 65mph the entire time?

  • @GrumpleslamAlabaster
    @GrumpleslamAlabaster 6 лет назад +1

    Did it do anything different after it charged back up? Any different messages on the screen?

  • @SteveBatzer
    @SteveBatzer 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks Ben, enjoyed watching and appreciate you taking the hit for us!

  • @flitsies
    @flitsies 6 лет назад +2

    In relation to your point about running out and range anxiety, what you said is all well and good during the day and in a good neighbourhood, but if you happen to run out in a bad neighbourhood and the chargers have been vandalised and the tow truck has to come from somewhere that doesn't know the area then perhaps it's not such an easy straight forward thing running out of power.
    Just saying you know.

    • @kradius2169
      @kradius2169 6 лет назад

      Don't worry about it. Just pack a Glock 17.

    • @flitsies
      @flitsies 6 лет назад +1

      Sorry I don't know what that is, is that some kind of water pistol or perhaps a frisbee to pass the time away in the dark, ha ha.
      No but seriously running out of power in an electric car today at the level that these vehicles are turns out it can be a real pain in the butt, some of them won't recharge once they get to a certain level, so they have to be recharged by first charging up the 12v battery then you may be able to recharge it, or if it still won't recharge the battery has to be recharged in stages or via a dc connection to bring the batteries up to a certain level where the charger recognises them.
      It can be a real pain in the butt so I'm lead to believe.

  • @darylnd
    @darylnd 6 лет назад +11

    Running out of juice in a dangerous place. Waiting for a (diesel) flatbed to pick me up. Driving to a charging station. Spending an hour to get almost to the range I had before I ran out. That's it: I'm sold!

  • @MatanMazursky
    @MatanMazursky 6 лет назад +2

    I'm curious Ben, if you weren't so close to a charger, and it would have taken more than 20 minutes from getting on the tow truck and off of it to the charger would you still have been able to roll it into the charger?

  • @blower1
    @blower1 6 лет назад +8

    The irritating music is still working...

  • @tonytrevino330
    @tonytrevino330 4 года назад +1

    I've actually ran out of fuel in my Cadillac DTS and it wouldn't start so we pushed it all the way to the nearest gas station and my Oldsmobile Alero also ran out of fuel but that was quicker.

  • @RealtorCrawford
    @RealtorCrawford 5 лет назад +14

    How long did it take to charge full from 0%?

  • @jonathanknight720
    @jonathanknight720 6 лет назад +1

    What happens when the 12 V battery that runs the car OS/screen also goes dead? I've been on vacation for about 4 weeks and got notice a couple of weeks ago that my model 3 was out of battery. Curious if I'll have to jump the 12 V before being able to charge the battery.

  • @Brad-sb1dk
    @Brad-sb1dk 6 лет назад +9

    Ben
    Great video, but would have liked to see more details on how they connected the winch to the vehicle and measurement of air dam clearance.
    Are there areas of the body, that shouldn't be used to hand push the car like the hood and tail lights?

    • @statonra
      @statonra 6 лет назад +1

      I noticed the front had some extra thing hanging down that I didn't see at the Tesla store. Was an aftermarket part added?

  • @markc7889
    @markc7889 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for the video. It is scary to run of juice if ending up in nowhere. Can the car be charged from a mobile charger instead of towing the car?

  • @djwaters22
    @djwaters22 6 лет назад +7

    The only thing that makes me not want an electrical car is having to wait at a charging center for 1 hour plus. Yes you can pay to have one built in your home, but what about road trips?

    • @noelfinan9147
      @noelfinan9147 5 лет назад

      Not ideal but you can try to plan your stops around supercharger locations. Since a Tesla has at least 235 miles of range you will likely want to stop anyway for a break after traveling that long. Again not 100% ideal but that's what most people with electric cars do

  • @ivanvolk1576
    @ivanvolk1576 6 лет назад +1

    Do you think with the "Aero wheels" you can get 300 or close to 310 miles?

  • @IntensePeppers
    @IntensePeppers 6 лет назад +51

    They should put a solar panel in the roof integrated with the glass. It'd be slow but good for if you left your car parked for a long time.
    Love the latin music btw

    • @yasirsaheed
      @yasirsaheed 6 лет назад +3

      still won't be enough

    • @calebkirschbaum8158
      @calebkirschbaum8158 6 лет назад +2

      Yaserinski Shahidovich Not to keep it powered continously, but should be enough to run for 5 mins, to the closest charger.

    • @mrpw1402
      @mrpw1402 6 лет назад

      Like the khamelion in gta 5

    • @kangkim150
      @kangkim150 6 лет назад +1

      Prius had a solar panel on the roof once but it was only good enough to run a fan to circulate out the hot air in the car while it was parked.

    • @bigshotjeev
      @bigshotjeev 6 лет назад +1

      Why not carry a small generator in your boot when travelling long distances? Little bit of pollution from a tesla won't hurt the already dying earth.

  • @OverconfidentNoobs
    @OverconfidentNoobs 5 лет назад +1

    I heard somewhere that if the battery dies you have to buy a new one because it dying causes severe damage to the battery. Is this not true?? What I saw in the video contradicts this statement, but I’m not sure.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial 5 лет назад +1

      That's the original Tesla roadsters. Since 2012 that hasn't been true

    • @OverconfidentNoobs
      @OverconfidentNoobs 5 лет назад +1

      Teslanomics with Ben Sullins oh thank you for filling me in 👍🏿

  • @bruceparr1678
    @bruceparr1678 6 лет назад +27

    "We will be ready to go in about an hour" That says it all.

    • @ilyaholt8607
      @ilyaholt8607 4 года назад

      If you only do short-medium trips in the city (like most people) and plan longer journeys appropriately, you'll never run out of charge in the first place. Meanwhile, charging at home during the night is not only cheaper, but it means you will never ever have to visit a public charging station while you own an electric car.

  • @stevemorrill1524
    @stevemorrill1524 6 лет назад +2

    5:55 I love it when they record over a previous recording.

  • @techboy95
    @techboy95 6 лет назад +5

    I'm really upset that you didn't mention anything about your journey and how fast you were going other then that you were driving at the speed limit. Is the speed limit 80 mph over there possibly?

    • @statonra
      @statonra 6 лет назад +1

      The video shows the speed was 65.

  • @rwolf01
    @rwolf01 6 лет назад

    Any idea why it was only 267 miles, rather than 310? Did you have heater or A/C on? Low tire pressure? Cold day? Hill climbing?
    Thanks.

  • @tomrobertson3236
    @tomrobertson3236 6 лет назад +11

    Near the end of the charge , high use causes a voltage drop, making the car shut down .
    For range anxiety, just slow down to 40 to ensure you reach a charger

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 6 лет назад +2

      easier said thaqn done when everyone else is going 75mph.

    • @daviddrake7003
      @daviddrake7003 6 лет назад +2

      Tigerex966 Put your emergency blinkers on. After all running out of fuel is an emergency.

    • @Kimoto504
      @Kimoto504 6 лет назад +1

      @@daviddrake7003 Yep, the same thing you do when any car has an issue that won't let you safely run full speed.

  • @tomaszstarling
    @tomaszstarling 4 года назад +1

    give those guys a tip bro! I always tip my tow driver for not scratching or denting the car, especially when they help
    to push

  • @f1dog
    @f1dog 6 лет назад +8

    I sold my Tesla Model S years ago when I found out how much it would be to run it after the warranty runs out. It was getting close to 100k miles and I had heard from a few owners that they had replaced their batteries around that point. My door handles kept needing to be replaced. Those are $800 a pop. I also had already had one drive unit (the motor) replaced under warranty and I have no idea how much those cost if you have to pay. The tires were the other pain in the ass. Yes, you don't have to replace the brake pads very often or things like a transmission, but the car is fast and weights 4700 lbs, and you can burn through tires and those are not cheap. I never ran out of power but it's the same as running out of gas...except it takes less than 5 minutes to fill up the gas tank and 8 hours if you don't have a super station and use your garage. You can also fill up a gallon and walk back to your stranded car. Back to a fast AMG combustion engine car that has transmission problems already, but buying a Porsche Mission E in a couple years. The cool part is the acceleration driving around town. There's nothing else like it in the 0-30 mph range. But anyone who says Teslas are cheaper to run because there are less moving parts need to think a little more. You buy the parts directly from Tesla only. They are expensive.

    • @kradius2169
      @kradius2169 6 лет назад

      Your leadfoot is degrading the battery. ... But hey, until people finally if ever get beyond the billions in free hype / buzz largely stemming from the false greener than ICE illusion coming from the gushing Establishment media and their wirepullers, you should be able to dump your leadfooted lemon battery electric vehicle onto an eagerly waiting fanboy for way more than it's worth.

    • @f1dog
      @f1dog 6 лет назад

      It's true, I got a great offer on mine from some nerd, although, I guess I was a nerd buying in the first place, lol. I wasn't really into the whole Tesla hype but I lived in SF and it was different back in 2012 when less Teslas were on the road. My girlfriend says my Mercedes is much cooler than my Tesla ever was. As far as my lead foot is concerned, I'm sorry, I can't seem to help it! lol. Some people do drugs. Others just drive really fast. Tesla acceleration is quicker off the line though in that first little part though and it's addicting. That part I miss, even with a sub 4 second car now. I didn't own a P100D but they make your head snap into the headrest every time. So, there's great things about both electric and ice cars and the future is going to be awesome in the car world, with or without Tesla. Look at those super hybrid cars that they have and that new Roadster with the (lol) SpaceX jet.

    • @kradius2169
      @kradius2169 6 лет назад

      See now, at least you're honest. You wanted zero-speed torque. Your girlfriend probably wanted quality, which speaks well to you. ... But most people want battery electric vehicles to help save the polar bears, and they dish out feverishly foolish amounts of cash for Elonmobiles which actually pollute more than ICE. ... Elon: Front man for what will be looked back on as one of the greatest eco-schwindles of all time.

    • @f1dog
      @f1dog 6 лет назад

      Oh dude, my friends on Wall Street who work at Goldman have been saying he's a con man for about 4 years now. It's amazing how many people still believe in him. He already missed the huge profit by not bringing it to market quick enough and one thing I learned from my girlfriend at Apple is "you always need to bring it to market first or else you're screwed." And I trust her MIT brain. Remember when the Prius first came out and how smug people were, going, "Hi, I'm saving the world!"...lol...Have you seen a lithium mining pit? There's one thing that people should try to do...WALK and RECYCLE as much as you can...and not buy as much shit. I get so tired of Elon covering the news too and I just turn it off.

    • @travelguy78
      @travelguy78 6 лет назад +1

      Yes. I have seen Lithium mining and it basically looks like pools of water.

  • @TJVideoChannelUTube
    @TJVideoChannelUTube 2 года назад

    If Model 3 batteries run out off power completely (either runs out mileage like in the video or leave it for months), the charge port won't open, correct? If so, how to charge Model 3 again?

  • @ThomasBryant
    @ThomasBryant 6 лет назад +3

    I was curious about the drive back. What the range like driving back?

  • @agentlife7
    @agentlife7 5 лет назад

    What is the exact wheels you have? what size? and is your car lowered?.. looks very good.

  • @luisdestro7662
    @luisdestro7662 6 лет назад +5

    Not Sure If I would get in that situation but, I would carry a tow strap and using the I-hook that is supplied, ask someone to give me a pull for a mile or so. The regenerative braking will give you some power back to the battery. Give a few bucks to the person who gave you a pull and save big on the the tow call.

    • @MrAppltec
      @MrAppltec 6 лет назад +1

      Luis Destro If you are worried about the price of the tow then you can’t afford a Tesla.

    • @luisdestro7662
      @luisdestro7662 6 лет назад +3

      Daniel McGee , I already have one. I am admittedly very cheap.😁

    • @traviskingful
      @traviskingful 6 лет назад

      Also, AAA ...

    • @abdallaahmed780
      @abdallaahmed780 6 лет назад

      @@MrAppltec they only cost like 40 grand. That's the price of a regular car...

    • @abdallaahmed780
      @abdallaahmed780 6 лет назад

      Except if you want to buy the higher end ones...

  • @meenam300zx
    @meenam300zx 5 лет назад +1

    Just ask the Chinese couple I met 2 weeks ago near Lake Tahoe who got caught in snow storm for 6 hours. They could have froze to death. My Toyota Highlander Hybrid was bullet proof and drove through like a champ. Tesla is not ready for prime time.

  • @qmjacobs
    @qmjacobs 6 лет назад +7

    Bro! This was an amazing video.... People like myself who have been on the fence about a Tesla. Its a great feeling to know its simple enough if you do run out of battery.

    • @jasonlisonbee
      @jasonlisonbee 6 лет назад +2

      Don't do that though. Draining those batteries too low can damage them.

  • @SIPERUS2
    @SIPERUS2 2 года назад +1

    I unfortunately just ran out of range this past Wednesday and I had a totally different experience. My 12V battery also died and made it impossible to open the car doors or put the car in tow mode (I’ve had my MY for less than a year). This scenario that played out in your video is probably the best case scenario and you’re lucky you found a tow truck that knew how to handle towing an EV, because it took me 12 hours to get a tow truck that was properly equipped to tow my car and I live in Los Angeles. I would recommend addending the video by adding instructions on what to do when your 12V battery dies as well to help others so they don’t go through what I did.

    • @jeffpro8
      @jeffpro8 2 года назад

      The 12 volt battery shouldn't have died when you ran out of energy for your lithium ion batteries. The 12 volt battery must be either defective or not used very much which can cause issues.

    • @annadarahcalazanscosta857
      @annadarahcalazanscosta857 2 года назад +1

      Hi! I just got the same issue with my model S. My car is now totally dead in a parking lot. Can you tell me what you did? I am totally lost in here

    • @SIPERUS2
      @SIPERUS2 2 года назад +1

      @@annadarahcalazanscosta857 I’m sorry you’re having to go through this. I have a model Y so this is what i did - If you are unable to open your car doors and/or fronk due to the car being totally dead, you will have to get one of the portable car battery jumper starter boxes. There is a hidden circular port in the front bumper on the driver side that you can pop out. The port door has two wires attached to it, one positive (red) and one negative (black). Connect the jumper cables from the battery pack to the corresponding wires and that will immediately open your fronk. Under the hood of the fronk there is a plastic panel that you need to remove to access the 12v battery. Again, connect the jumper cables to the corresponding port on the battery, and that should allow you to power on the car after a few mins, which in turn will allow you to put your car in neutral so you can get towed to a charging station. I hope this helps. If you call AAA or your insurance roadside service they should be able to assist you with these steps. Good luck!

    • @SIPERUS2
      @SIPERUS2 2 года назад +1

      @@jeffpro8 I think I was just very unlucky to have had my 12v battery die at the same time I ran out of range. Luckily, it was covered under warranty and was replaced within a few days.

  • @tecnocato
    @tecnocato 6 лет назад +22

    Wow, exactly 75 kWh. That exactness is impressive.

    • @waynerussell6401
      @waynerussell6401 6 лет назад +7

      Its a 80.5kWh battery - the precision is a chip on the BMS.

    • @tecnocato
      @tecnocato 6 лет назад

      I thought it was specified as 75 kWh.

    • @RisibleVolatile
      @RisibleVolatile 6 лет назад

      Wayne Russell what's your source for that info?

    • @daviddrake7003
      @daviddrake7003 6 лет назад +4

      tecnocato Yes thanks that means a 5.5 KWhr buffer from overcharging. I think the Bolt is similar like 65.5 KWhr battery for same reason.

    • @grunt98444
      @grunt98444 6 лет назад

      @@daviddrake7003 More like 5.5kw buffer so clueless drivers don't brick the battery pack

  • @123demaio
    @123demaio 2 года назад

    how often do u tow this?..Would be a big deal for most ..esp they claim 300 between charges..seems battery technology is a major issue ...Super charging any 0 current battery will damage it...

  • @mactwampson
    @mactwampson 6 лет назад +15

    Cool jacket my sister has the same one.

    • @hurly720
      @hurly720 6 лет назад +3

      mactwampson hasn't yo mamma ever told you if you ain't got somethin nice to say, keep it to yo self 😂 yes I can speak English

  • @angusmerlin2
    @angusmerlin2 6 лет назад +4

    Hey, Ben, thanks for the battery mileage science experiment. Much appreciated.
    And, as a bonus you also verified that it is true the Model 3 running on larger non-aerodynamic wheels apparently will take about a 10% hit in mileage. Hmmm.
    It would be super if you could re-run your mileage test while using the stock 18 inch wheels with the aero covers on. It would also be really really interesting to see what happens with good quality 18 inch sport wheels, aero cover in place.
    PS2, It would be awesome if Tesla would offer 19 and 20 inch aero covers for their optional larger sized Model 3 wheels. Hopefully the mileage hit for these larger wheels then would not be so bad.
    Thanks for all your great videos, Ben!

  • @HowlerBikeVlogs
    @HowlerBikeVlogs 4 года назад

    running out of range, in an EV or a regular combustion engine vehicle is 100% driver fault, that said, a regular can just get a can of fuel delivered by either a personal contact or perhaps a road assistance company, EV's can be charged on the spot if the road assistance is equipped for that. once the EV has enough charge you could also kinda tow it for a bit to use regen braking to charge it a bit further altough this is quite limited

  • @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS
    @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS 5 лет назад +3

    Insurance should make you pay for that purposeful debacle lol

  • @Worldofourown2024
    @Worldofourown2024 4 года назад +1

    Why would tow mode be limited to 20 minutes? Can't you just put it in neutral to push and tow all you need? What would happen if you go over the tow mode time limit? Unfortunately it looks like gas and diesel will dominate the energy markets for a very long time to come ensuring EV's remain expensive and tricky.

  • @davidwebb4904
    @davidwebb4904 6 лет назад +5

    Should have tried it again going back home to see if hills etc cancel each other out...

  • @ohmpatel2513
    @ohmpatel2513 5 лет назад

    PowerWall tow trucks...
    Imagine tow trucks with 1, 2 or 3 PowerWalls equipped with a fast charging interface to provide juice for either the closest station or home, whichever is closest. Then tow trucks charge them for free. Whoever joins gets them a special rate and get service priority.

  • @ecopluggecoplugg8868
    @ecopluggecoplugg8868 6 лет назад +7

    The range should also be much higher if you had the smaller aero rims on.

  • @apj171
    @apj171 Год назад

    Will Tesla roadside assistance come with a portable charger if you completely run out of charge in the middle of the highway?

  • @pojdiavaj1422
    @pojdiavaj1422 6 лет назад +7

    If u going to test the limited, at least bring a generator.

  • @ThalassTKynn
    @ThalassTKynn 6 лет назад

    So you can't put it in neutral to push it out of danger? Or was that because the battery was too low?

  • @yujishinohara1uponatime
    @yujishinohara1uponatime 6 лет назад +5

    what if you were at a big tow truck inaccessible location?

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 6 лет назад +1

      too bad

    • @yasirsaheed
      @yasirsaheed 6 лет назад

      gather a bunch of people to push the car or get another car to tow

  • @justsomeguy934
    @justsomeguy934 6 лет назад +1

    SO you had some power to keep it in "tow" mode, yes? And how did you have any power to steer the car to the charger?

  • @rldays9179
    @rldays9179 6 лет назад +4

    I have to say Tesla is the only car people will video every little detail of and put on RUclips. If someone had a Mazda 3 and it was reported to go 310 mi by Mazda everyone would say ok and that would be it. If it ran out of gas at 280 people would say it probably had soft tires or was in a headwind or driving up too many hills or whatever. Same with when a Tesla catches fire or crashes, there are long discussions on RUclips about the viability of electric cars. But if any other car catches on fire you just drive on past and wonder how that happened then move on. And the dramas when there were those accidents with the Autonomous driven cars. First off, Autonomous does not equate to a Tesla electric car. Autonomous is being trialed by every major car manufacturer. I can't wait til Teslas are just another Toyota and Electric cars are the norm as will be autonomous cars. Then we can just go buy one without wondering if it is any better or worse than any other car. And they will be cheaper.

    • @VashtiPerry
      @VashtiPerry 5 лет назад

      Robert Days thank you. I agree as well. One day

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 5 лет назад

      This is the same as any new technology: people want to know many details about the real-life experience before they try it themselves. It's one thing to see/hear from the manufacturer what it's like, often quite another from actual owners.

  • @michaellambrinov8221
    @michaellambrinov8221 6 лет назад +1

    How bad is running out of power for the long term health of the battery?

  • @jleg3ndary725
    @jleg3ndary725 6 лет назад +5

    I would imagine the same thing when you run out of fuel?

    • @y2rhf
      @y2rhf 3 года назад

      No, because they will bring fuel to you in a canister and fill you up on the side of the road and on you go to the nearest gas station to get refueled.

  • @nayibdumar6849
    @nayibdumar6849 2 года назад

    How long will the display last engaged after the battery dies . I’m currently stuck waiting for a tow. If anyone could help please

  • @ateebtahir7226
    @ateebtahir7226 6 лет назад +15

    I think tesla should introduce small mobile chargers on the road.

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 6 лет назад +4

      I think its easier if people just carried mobile gas generators.

    • @ateebtahir7226
      @ateebtahir7226 6 лет назад +2

      Yeah. But the real joy is when you charge on the go.

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 6 лет назад +2

      @@ateebtahir7226 what would be charging it?

    • @ateebtahir7226
      @ateebtahir7226 6 лет назад +1

      Another battery or a generator (sorry it will be against Tesla's motto "reduce pollution")

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 6 лет назад +1

      @@ateebtahir7226 adding a battery just means making the current one bigger adding to wheight and cost of the car, and the motors already act like a generator when the car slows down.

  • @anguianoalan100
    @anguianoalan100 2 года назад

    This is why Tesla needs to adopt similar technology like NIO where you can go to a battery swap station and get a fully charged battery in 3 to 4 min. It would get you back on the road faster. Here in Washington state we don’t have to many Tesla chargers most are an average of 15 to 40 miles apart and more in some areas so running out of battery wouldn’t be convenient but if those chargers were changed to battery swapping stations like NIO you wouldn’t have to worry about range much. This is why I’m excited for NIO to launch in the US.
    Also I’m sure charging your cars battery took a long time as you aren’t supposed to supper charge a dead battery unless you want to kill it sooner.

  • @7s29
    @7s29 5 лет назад +3

    Bro. Get a diesel. You can go anywhere without a second thought.

    • @EyesonEnforcement911
      @EyesonEnforcement911 3 года назад +1

      A diesel Tesla? You're out of your mind😂 Go sound like a bus somewhere else pal

  • @MD-nt9nv
    @MD-nt9nv 2 года назад

    So after hitting zero how many more miles did the car drive?

  • @Fluxey1
    @Fluxey1 6 лет назад +7

    Tesla should have added some type of solar charging unit on the car 😒

    • @Fluxey1
      @Fluxey1 6 лет назад +1

      Scott Gibson charge while you drive. 🙌 if they tested it then nvm

    • @AustinMichael
      @AustinMichael 6 лет назад +1

      A solar panel that small wouldn't do much. Even sitting in the direct sun. The added weight would negate any range bonus.

    • @moshpitsonly2778
      @moshpitsonly2778 5 лет назад +1

      Fluxey it would take a year to charge 🤦‍♂️ you stupid

    • @C00ki3M0n5t3rLP
      @C00ki3M0n5t3rLP 5 лет назад

      @@moshpitsonly2778 why did you call him stupid, I didnt knew that either...

    • @KingParisBuckingham
      @KingParisBuckingham 5 лет назад

      You the smartest here.. If it was recharged by solar would be gold and they could sell the car for even more

  • @22682ketan
    @22682ketan 6 лет назад +1

    Hi Ben, Great useful info on emergency.
    Do you know, Tesla cover any of towing cost when battery died or in sudden shut down of car in middle of highway? [for Model 3] or
    Is that, we have to deal with car insurance?
    If it's car insurance thing, which one is better? if you know.
    Please help me. Thanks

  • @vacommish
    @vacommish 6 лет назад +3

    Of course outside temperature conditions impact range a little as well. The video title makes it sound worse than a test. Thanks for the experiment.

  • @jerome0929
    @jerome0929 2 года назад

    Thanks for showing us what happens, the lowest I ever been was 30 miles which was like 8% and I panicked.
    Now question that video didn’t show, how they moved the Tesla to tow it from the front?
    Never seen a supercharger that doesn’t require you to back up, so what if you had to go in reverse to a charger with no battery? Does the wheel let you turn or is it stuck in a fix position?

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial 2 года назад

      It’s like having it in N when in tow mode, you can do whatever but have to do it manually

  • @jspearsdds
    @jspearsdds 5 лет назад +4

    Hey... I recognize that place! That's the Cabazon Outlets. At least you got stranded at a place with some luxury shopping!

  • @daviddrake7003
    @daviddrake7003 6 лет назад

    So what speed and what was the terrain? Could it have done it on the flat or nearly flat?

  • @omniconcepts_7275
    @omniconcepts_7275 6 лет назад +4

    Ben, are you playing the acoustic guitar on this video?

  • @86figs
    @86figs 2 года назад

    But how much did you pay for the tow? And what company did you go through?

  • @waynewilliamson4212
    @waynewilliamson4212 5 лет назад +4

    if the battery was dead, how did it get on the tow truck. I didn't see any cables, to pull or power....this is why I'm watching this.

  • @MoHawkAnakin
    @MoHawkAnakin 2 года назад +1

    5:56 lmao 🤣

  • @Teslastorymma
    @Teslastorymma 6 лет назад +4

    great job on the vid... and poor friend.. didnt get a high five. lol

  • @the_freedom_quest
    @the_freedom_quest 5 лет назад

    How did you get model S wheels on a Model 3 ??? Where did you get those wheels ? They look so nice