Snow Mode? R1T First Drive in the Snow! - A little less slippy (on 20s)
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2022
- Quick drive on some snowy and Icy roads in the 20 all-terrain wheels/tires. Following up from an earlier video driving the R1S on the snow ( • Rivian R1S First Drive... ) A little better footing with the other tires. Seems like Rivian needs to make a SNOW MODE!
Here's the companion snow driving video: • Rivian R1S First Drive...
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Love the content Rivian Dad! I am an R1T reservation holder in MN and I have been waiting patiently to see more cold weather/snow videos so I'm happy to see more get uploaded from everyone. I am very curious and can't wait to test vehicle/battery performance in the frigid north January temps.
Thanks! Yeah I’m curious how cold will affect range, hoping the Rivian will fare better than our WV e-Golf which takes a big hit in the cold. So far it seems like it’s less of an impact on the Rivian but still too early to know for sure.
Good video!
I’ve read online that 3PMS rated tires are pretty much Meeting the bare minimum requirements vs a true dedicated winter tire. So these results seem to be in line with that
Good to know. I'd love to test out some more winter tires, but, well, car payments...
Thanks for mentioning our discussion of weight on downhill, Scott. That was the thing that caught me unawares yesterday. I was at a place where I was facing downhill on an embanked bit of road. I was able to come to a stop just fine for a red light and then I just started sliding laterally toward the shoulder. I was able to feather the accelerator to keep the motors engaged and that helped but at a complete stop I was just a big curling stone.
Curling stone is a good description. I had a similar experience (not recorded) when I came to a stop at a light and slid sideways into the curb. Good reminder to drive carefully, especially on the hills! Thx.
3:27 and 4 wheel steering and also crabwalk too
Just drove from Estes Park to Granby this morning on the All Terrain tires. Roads were snow covered and not plowed in several places. Kept the vehicle in All Purpose and Standard regen. Had to “feather” the throttle on downhill and corners to keep the slide under control. Overall did very well and felt confident.
Nice. BTW, don't miss the Dec 3rd Rocky Mountain Rivian Club event in Broomfield! Hope to see you there.
Curious to get your thoughts on Soft Sand mode as well, it's supposed to have reduced regen but still keeps AWD... I'm just not sure about the front to rear drive bias.
Also, all other things equal (especially tires), I would think the rear of the truck would be more prone to slide out than the SUV because it should be lighter.
My R1S was sliding a bit on the icy roads yesterday @skyler. It's still a much heavier vehicle than most ICE trucks and even some other "comparable" EVs
@@sveticus yeah, weight alone will make especially ice a challenge. I'm really curious how a true snow tire will work.
I tried Soft Sand mode today for a few minutes, although the roads were much more drivable so it's a tough comparison. I felt like the regen was more or less the same as All Purpose actually, so I went back to Conserve which, for me, is the place to be when driving around town on slick roads. Not only does it keep the back end from sliding out, it also tampers down the torque so you're less likely to spin out on a start.
Typical trucks are considerably lighter in the rear, but not sure with EV and the batteries. Another consideration is the longer wheelbase which generally helps with stability.
Curious I have the R1T QM with the stock 20” AT tires In snow mode I’m slipping a lot where I live in Park City, Utah Do you think the dual motor would handle any better?
I don't think the trim would make any difference. This winter I have new tires (Nokian) and they make a big difference.
@@RivianDad which Nokias tires are you using ?
What mode are you in? Thanks for experimenting!
This was between two modes: all purpose and Conserve. I switch to conserve late in the video which helped keep the tail end from sliding out.
What do you think of the headlights? Looks to have a pretty abrupt cutoff?
I like them. They just work. The abrupt cutoff is never a problem. And, the auto bright system works pretty well.
As someone who's driven Trucks and Vans I can tell you the heavier a vehicle the less likely it is to slide. It's the width of your tires that will make it slide. The wider the tire the more likely you are to slide. A truck with narrow tires will blow right through that snow.
perhaps we need a thinner snow tire then, because I slid more than I expected. I feel like sitting on a hill (with the performance tires at least) could provoke a slide in and of itself, like when I slid sideways off a road into the gutter.
I know the 20's are "snow rated", but I think I'm going to start looking around for a set of dedicated winter tires for mine. Mine slides around way too much. Have you heard of any snow tires available for the R1T?
I'm going to be trying some Falken snow rated tires. I've also heard good things about Nokian tires. Stay tuned and we'll do a video on just that. Thanks!
@@RivianDad I really want to hear what you think about the Falkens. I had AT3Ws on my past vehicles and they did a great job of ejecting snow from the tread. I don't see much of that on these Pirelli tires.
im nervous watching this video seeing you driving on those narrow streets. the weight of the vehicle combined with the way regen is currently configured makes me nervous to drive this in my city as its very hilly and even though we only get a few weeks of snow in the winter, i'm concerned.
I think it's a good thing to be aware of. I was not expecting as much sliding as I experienced. But, the good news is that much of that can be mitigated by tires and adjustments to the driving mode, which are both things that can change! Thx.
If the 20's were a "10", would you say the 22's are an "8"? How close are the 22's in your personal scale? NOTE: Pirelli rates the 22's only one notch below the 20's on their own website!
Depends on what your use is. For snow, I'd give the 20 Pirellis an "8" and the 22s a "6." Hard to say, though, if there would ever be a "10" just because the weight of the vehicle makes it harder to stop or avoid sliding. Still on the lookout though. I'm going to be trying some new tires soon. I'll let you know how it goes. Stay tuned! Thanks.
Hummer EV should be a beast in the winter, haha. ;)
It does have some pretty beefy tires. :)
Sand mode for snow?
Tried it. It doesn't really feel any different than all purpose.
I think it’s just a different mindset driving an EV in slick conditions. The same way you wouldn’t slam on the breaks on an ICE, you can’t completely let off the throttle and initiate strong regen. I’m not sure why people want their vehicle to drive differently in inclement conditions.
Yeah, but it is an adjustment that needs to be made. I drove more today and was a lot more comfortable. Thx
That is not "snow" tires, mud terrain maybe. Viking contact & Hakkapelitta - those are real winter tires.
Thanks. I’ll check them out.
I honestly feel this is more of an “expectations” issue. The all purpose mode is already calibrated for snow, it does it instantly, so there’s no need to “change modes”. Rivian Dad needs to borrow a Ford Ranger or a RAM TRX and compare it to the R1T (all with stock tires). Any pickup with a a bed in the back and no weight will slide the back end. In fact, the batteries on the R1T will help a lot in comparison.
The all purpose mode does not seem to work well in this situation. Note that I've driven many vehicles in snow for 30+ winters so I do know the range of vehicles. I know about the back end sliding (and sand bags in the bed), but that sliding is almost always because of the torque coming from the rear-wheel drive. Yes, the battery will change that, but imagine in that same Ford Ranger you have 1000 pounds of weight in the back. That's more like what we're talking about here. The weight is a lot.
Changing to conserve (or, in other words, putting it in front wheel drive and reducing the torque) makes the truck a more comfortable drive around town on slippery roads. In All Purpose, the back end of the truck slips out very easily. I'd probably feel differently if it were in deep snow, but for now, I'm glad to have conserve mode. Soft Sand mode could also be good for deeper snow, although I haven't tried that yet. Thanks!
Most conventional trucks have a pretty heavy weight bias towards the front, hence the lack of traction on the rear wheels. The Rivian does not have this issue, I believe it’s close to a 50/50 weight distribution. However, if you floor it, it does have 835hp instantly available. Of course it’s going to lose traction in these conditions.