Here's How The Rivian R1T Handles In Snow And Slippery Surfaces!

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @MLHunt
    @MLHunt 2 года назад +92

    Kyle is as good as anyone on EV RUclips at giving you a sense of what it's like to operate a car. Always feel like I have a good sense of the vehicle's performance characteristics after watching his review.

  • @frumpd63
    @frumpd63 2 года назад +123

    Hearing impartial, technical coverage of this vehicle after a months long barrage of "it has a flashlight!" is amazing. Thanks Kyle!

    • @catinthehat5140
      @catinthehat5140 2 года назад

      What evidence do you have that other reviewers are bias?

    • @kuma_score7536
      @kuma_score7536 2 года назад

      "it has a flashlight!"
      NGL, I quite like that little gimmick XD

    • @jgeoffrey1
      @jgeoffrey1 2 года назад

      Doug Demuro does a solid review. Go see

  • @mjleg1
    @mjleg1 2 года назад +37

    Kyle describing driving dynamics is like a sommelier describing wine.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 2 года назад +47

    Wow! He was driving that truck pretty aggressively in that snow ❄️. This was a really great test of the vehicle’s capabilities with a thin snow layer.

  • @Robert-pm6bm
    @Robert-pm6bm 2 года назад +47

    Whoever brings Kyle onto the development team of a future EV, they will end up with the best all around EV in the market.

    • @Mari0o0o
      @Mari0o0o 2 года назад +3

      If only it were that easy…

  • @AdemVessell
    @AdemVessell 2 года назад +6

    What an amazing video. Simultaneously relaxing snowy drive but thrilling driving. I feel asleep in the best way. Some back to watch again. Extremely unique vibe in this one.

  • @jnmurphy
    @jnmurphy 2 года назад +10

    How much fun is Kyle having here?!, love it! :)

  • @rgeraldalexander4278
    @rgeraldalexander4278 2 года назад +4

    Rivian has done one hell of a good job. Seriously considering letting my Cybertruck reservation go and grabbing one of these.

  • @soapyd2
    @soapyd2 2 года назад +14

    Excellent video Kyle! Thanks for finding the answer to my question regarding regen and slippery surfaces. I like the idea of a snow/mud mode for them to work on. Good stuff!

  • @mrmerm
    @mrmerm 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Kyle and thanks Magna, this is a very useful partnership :)

  • @mandkventures4591
    @mandkventures4591 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for this video! I have been seeing on the various blogs where there are issues with the R1T in snow, and we will be getting snow here in the mountains of NC very soon! What people are writing on the blogs has me very worried as I do no want to damage my truck, and if you look at some of the comments it would seem that driving on snow would not work out well! I have the R1T Launch Edition with the standard 20 inch Pirelli AT tires. I am happy to see you achieved good results during your testing. I look forward to the "Snow Mode" which is due to be in the next software update and hopefully before snow starts falling here!

  • @zr2zamboni906
    @zr2zamboni906 2 года назад +5

    Very good review. Thank you!
    It’s normal for a vehicle (ICE or EV) in “rock crawl” mode to have more axle lock to keep you from rolling in very loose grip, off camber situations. “Sand, snow or drift” modes allow for more of a “rolling stop” to avoid locking the axles and causing you to drift.

  • @FlightDoc
    @FlightDoc 2 года назад +5

    Nice work guys! Perfect Colorado day.

    • @FlightDoc
      @FlightDoc 2 года назад

      Lemeknow if you need a small trailer/boat to pull or a big boy to ride along!

  • @simonthebroken9691
    @simonthebroken9691 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for this review. It did much better than I expected. Could you pass on a request? Cold weather package. Heated wipers, headlights, & tailights.

  • @JazzyJeff139
    @JazzyJeff139 2 года назад

    I've owned my truck since march and can't wait to hit vermont regularly. Thanks for letting me know what to expect Kyle!

  • @denayarbrough2346
    @denayarbrough2346 2 года назад +2

    OUTSTANDING VIDEO! Chocked FULL of great info! Thank you!

  • @tymanot
    @tymanot 2 года назад +9

    I really hope for Rivian to come to Germany. Man, I love this car.

  • @repentuklondonwatchman1373
    @repentuklondonwatchman1373 2 года назад +1

    BROTHER, WE LOVE YOUR WORK.

  • @graemeesmith
    @graemeesmith 2 года назад +20

    Looks awesome! I bet they'll improve the traction control capabilities over time to resolve the rear wheel lock at slow speed and make conserve mode work better on snow. Seems like relatively easy fixes.

  • @JDLNYC
    @JDLNYC 2 года назад +4

    They need spray washers for lights like many high end suv and trucks have had for years. Inexpensive system to add in manufacturing just needs to be requested.

  • @brandenflasch
    @brandenflasch 2 года назад +1

    So glad it lets you slide

  • @marknorth7361
    @marknorth7361 2 года назад +2

    Unique review of the Rivian, great!

  • @Mari0o0o
    @Mari0o0o 2 года назад +8

    19:50 that’s not good at all and they should fix it asap. Most regular drivers won’t intuitively press the accelerator pedal to correct.

  • @dhiramashokbuch2465
    @dhiramashokbuch2465 2 года назад +1

    thats pretty aggressive testing, drive dynamics is so amazing holding up. Thank for review

  • @ScubaSteveCanada
    @ScubaSteveCanada 2 года назад +2

    Rivian pre-prod trucks were support vehicles of a TV series (Long Way Up) with Ewan McGregor & Charley Boorman. Rivian had to build the charging infrastructure for the two electric bikes along with the Rivian R1T. Both the Harley Electric bikes and the R1Ts handled the journey from Patagonia to California. Considering both the bikes and the R1T were pre-production models, they were impressive.

  • @BrianK04
    @BrianK04 2 года назад +4

    @20:20 I had the low friction regen experience in my tesla, the regen would reduce immediately as it came into ice and started to slip to keep the back wheels from locking up and sliding. My fear was it would act as you experienced in the Rivian which is not good.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 2 года назад +4

    Is visibility nonexistent out the back with the camper attachment on it? Does it have a camera rear view mirror?

  • @RyuMoto
    @RyuMoto 2 года назад +4

    Another great review Kyle.

  • @Teslavangelist
    @Teslavangelist 2 года назад +2

    I remember my 1st gen chevy Volt would lock the rear wheels when regen'ing in snow/ice to the point that I started wondering if I only had ABS on the front. Hopefully Rivian adjusts their rear regen for slippery conditions

  • @osunick
    @osunick 2 года назад +22

    Kyle, thanks for pointing out that a quad motor setup is different than a locked diff setup. I'll smash that subscribe button for you.

    • @TheBowerbird
      @TheBowerbird 2 года назад +7

      I was arguing with some know-nothing know-it-all on instagram about this. He thinks that locked diffs should be simulated and that's it and everything else is inferior. I was pointing out to him that this system is completely different (and better) in terms of capabilities and behavior.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 2 года назад

      @@TheBowerbird yep every systems have their own advantages but the locking diff is just another advantage that ICE have, ICE also have similar feature compared go EVs based on traction control, Toyota Atrack for example and even crawl control.

    • @osunick
      @osunick 2 года назад

      @@TheBowerbird yeah you can't actually simulate a locked diff with a quad motor setup. Wheel speed is a function of power and available traction. If the wheel breaks traction it will spin until TC reacts. Without a mechanical connection between wheels it is folly to try and get them to rotate at precisely the same speed.

    • @TheBowerbird
      @TheBowerbird 2 года назад +4

      @@alanmay7929 Locking diff is not an advantage if you can do something better through software.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 2 года назад

      @@TheBowerbird diff locking actually achieve better results than a software.

  • @joetripp123
    @joetripp123 2 года назад +7

    I'm concerned about the headlights in slushy and icy conditions. Maybe it's nothing. "4wd and chains required" - Kyle takes it at 25 mph in a $100k loaner truck. Great review of slippery surfaces. I hope you give some of that regen locking the rear feedback back to Rivian.

    • @josank
      @josank 2 года назад +2

      Past Mercedes had headlight washers and wipers (lots of snow in Germany). They worked well. The washers could use deicer fluid. Maybe its time to resurrect that tech.

  • @b1_ferg
    @b1_ferg 2 года назад +1

    As a Canadian, I had to click on this.
    One of the things that is so unfortunate about the amazing potential of this video is that it doesn't currently have a controled-decent capability. A couple of other tribes about this, but I think they'd be able to fix them via OTA updates.
    Definitely keeping my eyes on this one.

  • @jamesoldman3021
    @jamesoldman3021 2 года назад +4

    Rivian has to do some work on the regeneration. For situations where one is on a slippery surface currently it would probably be better to turn off the regen. Question though if one was travelling faster did it react the same? How often would one want to still be using the regen when your down to 10K?
    I would be interested to see a test similar to this one only with the vehicle maxed out with its carrying load. Most buyers are probably going to be using the vehicle as a family car, but there are people like myself that used pickups as work vehicles and always have a load in the box and occasionally over the GVW.

  • @kevinblock2307
    @kevinblock2307 2 года назад +2

    I enjoyed this - great review

  • @elderjustice9714
    @elderjustice9714 Год назад

    I know this was a year ago, however I am using these videos to build my knowledge for my Rivian build. I am not sure how external cameras can be mounted, because your great explanations I am having difficulties picturing, but they are great. Your other channel is very informative as well.

  • @rainmaker3700
    @rainmaker3700 2 года назад +4

    Having the wheels lock up in regen in the snow is pretty dangerous. Is there a way to just disable it in snow conditions??

  • @wrxdrunkie
    @wrxdrunkie 2 года назад

    Kyle is the GOAT

  • @poseyperspective3591
    @poseyperspective3591 2 года назад

    Can’t wait to drive one.

  • @itskevindulac
    @itskevindulac 2 года назад

    I know I'm late to the party, but a snow mode is a must from me, that's the only "adverse" conditions I'll ever likely drive in with any regularity. I hope they add it by this Winter!

  • @ezmn9663
    @ezmn9663 2 года назад +3

    Great reviews! Looks like a great truck, but I hope you relay this issue (downhill lockup, which is really bad in low traction as your point out) to Rivian Corporate. You look like someone with a lot of experience in the snow, EVs, and offroading - get someone who is not and ends up in this situation, this could be very very dangerous. Hope Rivian can come up with an elegant fix!

  • @michaelmeier2037
    @michaelmeier2037 2 года назад

    Best Truck ever.

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT 2 года назад +7

    The regen causing wheel lock is odd. My BMW i3 with snow tires wouldn’t lock the rear wheels going downhill on ice, it would lower regen to avoid it. (And the i3 has strong regen.)
    Hopefully Rivian is watching and adds a mud/snow mode that allows spin on throttle while preventing wheel lock on regen.

    • @Fozzymandius
      @Fozzymandius 2 года назад +1

      This isn't on snow tires but that isn't a good excuse to be locking the axles.

    •  2 года назад +1

      Weird, the "norsk elbilforening" tested just this on a frozen lake and every car, impressively enough did a fairly good job, certainly better that I would have expected from regen on slipper surfaces: ruclips.net/video/Q512ojtMJrI/видео.html
      I really suspect the cars disable regen while the car is slipping, but thats just me.

    • @VermontyAir
      @VermontyAir 2 года назад +1

      Thats because BMW tuned it out. The early ones def did lock up and then a dealer update reduced regen quite a bit. I had two a hated the reduced regen

    • @ObserverDingue
      @ObserverDingue 2 года назад

      @@Fozzymandius "This isn't on snow tires but that isn't a good excuse to be locking the axles."
      Depending what the American definition of "snow tyres" is, Kyle showed the tyres: offroad 3PMSF winter tyres, that's snow tyres here in Olde Yurpland.

    • @Fozzymandius
      @Fozzymandius 2 года назад +1

      @@ObserverDingue There’s definitely wiggle room there. You’ll be allowed on a pass with AWD in most parts of the country with 3PMSF but they aren’t the same thing as dedicated snow tires. The requirements to get the symbol are quite low.

  • @matthealy563
    @matthealy563 Год назад +1

    I see snow mode came out today, any chance to do another similiar video in snow mode? Really want to see what the deal is with down hill control and if the wheels are still locking up in snow mode. One guy on the Rivian forum slid down his own driveway into a tree, I have a very long, very steep, and winding driveway. I also live in an area that with very steep windy roads, so this is important to me as a reservation holder. I know the vehicle weights 7k lbs, but locked wheels on declines etc is not going to help.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 2 года назад +1

    Can you weigh the truck? Some gas stations or truck stops will weigh the vehicle for a small fee. Some sites say the curb weight is ~5,886 lbs while other sites say ~7,173 lbs. Apparently the Rivian manual says 8,532 GVWR. Can you confirm that?

  • @Monctonrealestate
    @Monctonrealestate 11 месяцев назад

    Love your channel! Getting my R1T next week on 21" tires. I am looking for your opinion on which tires I should get. I am considering the 275/50R21 Dunlop Winter MAXX SJ8 or Michelin XIce Snow. Would love some feedback. Happy Holidays!

  • @samusvi2693
    @samusvi2693 2 года назад

    so cool, i saw a video of a guy in one of the dakotas charge his ev in the cold and he had less charge in the morning lol

  • @robcossin4690
    @robcossin4690 2 года назад +7

    A bit nerve racking with down hill regen slipping, loosing traction.

  • @matthewknobel6954
    @matthewknobel6954 2 года назад

    Recommendation to Rivian and other LED headlight people, tie in heater elements that come on when you hit the front window defrost.

  • @shawnguilfoyle2409
    @shawnguilfoyle2409 2 года назад +2

    Great work!! You all have to remember, Wallace, not everyone can have everything, sorry…

  • @RyderNight99
    @RyderNight99 2 года назад +2

    Curious how it would done “All purpose mode” when you were going downhill in low speeds on that dirt road

  • @brandenflasch
    @brandenflasch 2 года назад +8

    $100k truck should probably have a power tailgate

    • @Poxenium
      @Poxenium 2 года назад +11

      First gen founders series Tesla Model S didn't have parking sensors. That's the stage Rivian is at now.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 2 года назад +2

      They should also all have AR HUDs.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 2 года назад

      No probably about it.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 2 года назад

      @@Poxenium Irrelevant.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch 2 года назад

      @@Poxenium sure, but that’s not where the market it.

  • @richardamo3336
    @richardamo3336 2 года назад

    You can open the Tonneau Cover Using ; Button on the exterior bed rail, Rivian, and Center display

  • @isaac198428
    @isaac198428 2 года назад +2

    Auto manufacturers can add a heating element to the headlight housing to keep snow and ice from forming. Similar technology they have on the rear window of every single car out, have defrost feature. Especially on these high end $100 k and up vehicles. But that’s just my opinion.

    • @sudeshsingh9706
      @sudeshsingh9706 2 года назад

      or washer spray system. My lexus had it, it worked nicely.

  • @ktm_im
    @ktm_im 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for this! Was wondering how it handles being from CO myself. Can you just put it in neutral so you can feather the brake?

  • @charlesdegaulle1943
    @charlesdegaulle1943 2 года назад +1

    I love the white color

  • @brandenflasch
    @brandenflasch 2 года назад

    I can’t wait to get mine

  • @AutoDIY
    @AutoDIY 2 года назад +1

    If I drank every time you fixed your hair, I would get so blitzed, hair looks great BTW

  • @jeanluc1200
    @jeanluc1200 2 года назад

    Nice review, thanks! How many inches of snow did you have on the dirt road? From the driver seat, can you see anything below or above the tent?

  • @Wittstock99
    @Wittstock99 2 года назад

    Can you do this drive in the winter with your Model S Plaid?

  • @Willibopper
    @Willibopper 2 года назад

    Any idea what sort of consumption was being used mobbing around on that drive there?

  • @jacobmaz8157
    @jacobmaz8157 2 года назад

    God this channel is great

  • @marko2873
    @marko2873 2 года назад +1

    Perhaps they need a heating element in the headlights.

  • @ronb4633
    @ronb4633 2 года назад +1

    Kyle, can you compare to Taycan CT handling?
    I know it’s not an apples to apples with a truck to an estate, but I wanted to hear handling and suspension comments as you had some off-road experience with the CT, though I guess not slippery conditions.

    • @ObserverDingue
      @ObserverDingue 2 года назад

      Apples & oranges offroading on a dry lake bed, your wish was Kyle's command! Or you guys just think alike 🙂
      (You probably saw this but I thought I'd just leave a reply here anyway)
      "We Take A Porsche Taycan & Rivian R1T To Their Top Speed In The Desert!"
      ruclips.net/video/422xF4OQQO4/видео.html

  • @dougmacdougall2097
    @dougmacdougall2097 2 года назад +1

    I'm in Colorado too and got an R1S on order... gotta say, not loving the fact it was locking the rear on the downhill like that, not very cool at all. For the average driver, you could see something like that rattling them for sure. Also would prefer to have more control over how much wheelspin I want in the snow - both from a safety perspective (because I trust my foot more than I do any traction mgmt system) and also fun factor. In other words, there should be a TC and stability FULL OFF mode. Let's hope Rivian address this via software OTA soon.

  • @akis.4493
    @akis.4493 10 месяцев назад

    Does the heated steering wheel heat the entire steering wheel or just the sides

  • @EdBell12
    @EdBell12 2 года назад

    What is covering the glass roof? Where did you get it?

  • @QuantumAlchemyst
    @QuantumAlchemyst 2 года назад

    Goodvideo buddy! But... I see you has turn 180° manoeuvering, not inplace change direction capability??

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 2 года назад

    When do we get to see it do the Out of Spec Hill Climb?

  • @donayre21
    @donayre21 2 года назад

    Any defects in the vehicle compares to tesla? how is quality control.

  • @agninandana
    @agninandana 2 года назад

    so Rivian RS1 or RT1 a good choice for PNW. Washington state weather?

  • @ourstate100
    @ourstate100 2 года назад

    Doing any livestreams this week with it??

  • @terryhof7624
    @terryhof7624 2 года назад

    I am from Colorado as you are but I have the 21" AS tires. Have you heard how they do in the snow. Didn't do my homework and now I have AS tires that are not the best in snow. Yes I know I could spend thousands of dollars and change them out but I don't want to spend more money on my Rivian. It is a much heavier vehicle yes just not much info out their on these tires in the snow. Any knowledge in this area?

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 2 года назад

    You should make your own camp kitchen! Now You Know RUclips channel made their own and it works pretty well!

  • @christophersiano969
    @christophersiano969 2 года назад

    Can you turn off the "Hold"? That might allow the wheels to stay turning.

  • @Teslavangelist
    @Teslavangelist 2 года назад

    great use review! I would recommend lower the bass of the audio in some of the Out of Spec videos, low tones make the speech a little obscured

  • @BenWilliams
    @BenWilliams 2 года назад

    Can you check to see what noises the truck makes after a drive or waking it up from sleep? This was something I was not expecting from our Model Y which was our first EV. The car makes all kinds of clicking and whirling as it turns on/off the battery thermal mgmt system. It’s not very loud (really only hear it when parked in the garage) but I’m curious how the Rivian compares. Thanks for the fantastic content so far!

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 2 года назад

      Do you mean noises other than the normal “clack” of the contractors as it starts up?

    • @BenWilliams
      @BenWilliams 2 года назад

      @@aussie2uGA yep, there’s actually several people complaining about it on the forums. Sounds like it only started with newer produced Model Ys over the last year or so which makes people think tesla changed something. But I’ve noticed ours has gotten quieter after about 4k miles on it. I know one of the sounds is the contactors, another is the octovalve, and another is the intake louvers opening and closing because I can see those moving behind the grill. Nothing major but just nosier than I expected. Curious if the R1T also has any noise while parked as well.

  • @bfvader
    @bfvader 2 года назад

    Can you not turn the regen off in the snow?

  • @kingsaunders765
    @kingsaunders765 2 года назад +1

    Use rain x on that headlight

  • @bobicabayo
    @bobicabayo 2 года назад

    What is blocking the back window?

  • @RyanOttawayMartin
    @RyanOttawayMartin 2 года назад +1

    So. Good. 🥰

  • @sethjchandler
    @sethjchandler 2 года назад

    Any developments on the rear lockup issue? 8/19/22

  • @tianjohan4633
    @tianjohan4633 2 года назад

    3:57 I disagree. Depending on the weather of cos, led's that have ice trouble is a big issue, and if weather is bad you need to do several stops each hour to clean the lights.18:07 You are wrong. For that kind of driving, locked diffs are useless and will cause you sorrow and pain, locked diffs of icy, snowy and twisting roads are a terrible idea. There is a reasons the outer wheel spins faster during turns. 20:43 Too much regen on ice and snow could actually be an "advanced rider tool". Rather then using the ebrake just lift up the throttle and kick the rear out, great for easy turning around on narrow roads, to set up the "swedish flick" before sharp turns and bends etc. Where you did the turn around at the ranch gate, if you did use the "regen slip" to your advantage you would have turned around while driving in one fluid motion. No three point turned required.

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 2 года назад

    Question… are those other cars with LED’s electric? Or was it an ICE car?

  • @mikebroom1866
    @mikebroom1866 2 года назад

    Really hope GM takes notes and one-ups this with the Silverado.

  • @fenceman53
    @fenceman53 2 года назад

    What no crew on board? Were they saving butt muscles?

  • @ronleblanc9832
    @ronleblanc9832 2 года назад

    Nice video whats the payload carry in the box lets say your hoing to get a load of pellets for your et stove 40 lb bags ???

  • @carrot595
    @carrot595 2 года назад

    rear axle?

  • @usafa13n
    @usafa13n 2 года назад

    Does R1T have slip start?

  • @nickolashaustein
    @nickolashaustein Год назад

    Is there not a snow mode?

  • @nealpatel5556
    @nealpatel5556 2 года назад

    Are you going to order one?

  • @brettmccoy5900
    @brettmccoy5900 2 года назад

    The reason other LED lit cars don’t have problems defrosting is Bc the heat from the engine actually melts the snow and ice not the LED.

  • @rnursemd
    @rnursemd 2 года назад

    This is one of the reasons I'm looking at Rivian: SNOW! For us white-knucklers on snow and ice, this will be fine, LOL!

  • @nealchalmers9838
    @nealchalmers9838 2 года назад

    I thought drift mode was for sand and snow? I think you have to try that.

  • @MANdoesminecraft
    @MANdoesminecraft 2 года назад +1

    Are you going to be ordering the R1S or R1T?

  • @RPista
    @RPista 2 года назад

    in my opinion they would of made the front of the rivian look 10x better by not having the headlights look like nostrils. just by getting rid of that & implementing the headlight into the front led arc the rivian would of been my next truck. but again just my opinion & really hope their next generation truck gets a complete frunk redesign

    • @sudeshsingh9706
      @sudeshsingh9706 2 года назад

      I'm not a fan myself but am surprised how many people love the look. I have had a few complements just on those.

  • @Tooradj
    @Tooradj 2 года назад

    I guess with that Regen and street tires, I would be hugging some trees in winter.

    • @Wasabi9111
      @Wasabi9111 2 года назад +2

      Totally agree. The problem w the standard 21” wheels is that there are no winter tire option available. Not sure why rivian custom produced such a weird wheel/tire size.

  • @Bestcaarsandtrucks57
    @Bestcaarsandtrucks57 2 года назад +1

    best cars trucks I like Rivian truck ev Rivian truck is nice lookking

  • @JDLNYC
    @JDLNYC 2 года назад

    Do the seats have inflatable lumbar ? If so maybe they can add massage seat functionality as an option.

  • @SpottedSharks
    @SpottedSharks 2 года назад

    Lewis & Clark are probably kicking themselves for not requisitioning a Rivian for their expedition.

  • @62Sketch
    @62Sketch 2 года назад

    about 14 or so years ago I put a set of Pirelli Scorpions on my Jeep Cherokee. By far worst tires I've ever owned. They would not stay balanced. Would go back and get them rebalanced and within a couple weeks Jeep would be shaking again. Had the tires removed with over half the tread left because it was so irritating. Replaced them with Bridgestones and never had the problem again. Said I'd never buy Pirelli again.