Thank you so much! I love my T4i it was my first prosumer purchase and now im transitioning to using it for my streams and since I can keept the viewfinder from going to sleep I am GOOD MONEY!!! LOVE THIS! Thanks again!
Hey dude, nice video. I also have a t4i and there's a way to stop the 30 minutes limit with ML... You just have to download the LUA update and you will find the option in the ML settings
Do you have a link to the LUA update you're applying? I'm currently running the latest build (2018-07-03) which notes it has the LUA fix, however, there's no option to remove the 30 Minute shutdown, which is why I'm using the webcam drivers to keep it active.
@@cloudnull builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html Download the one that says 650d at the end, install it and restart the camera. Then in the settings go to Prefs tab -> Powersave in Liveview -> 30-minutes timer set to "Disable"
Done and done. I was planning to make a follow up video with the newly released canon webcam drivers (they’re no longer beta on windows) and I guess I’ll be doing it a newer version of ML too :) Thanks again for the tip!
Hi there I'm following this thread. I've also got a T4i. If I install the latest ML will that give me everything I need to disable the 30 minute shut down? What is LUA update?
Hey this is a great video however, the Amazon listing for the HDMI capture card no longer works, could you update the description with a link to one you would recommend? Thanks!
Hello, I hope that you are well, After several attempts, I was unable to get the same adjustment that you made on the 650d camera. Please check the files you provided for installation. As well as recording a video of the process from beginning to end, as I desperately need this process. I would be grateful to you sir...thank you
Can you do a video on how you set this up I just got a capture card but my video cuts out after about 30 seconds just goes black I cant figure out how to fix it I was usingthe usb eos utility but the port it nnow a bit busted as I've ben using it for ages and having to swap batterys between calls .
Thank you SO much! I tried nearly every camera setting and didn't get rid of the auto-off function of live view. The workaround with USB isn't what I wish for, but it will do the trick. This will help me a lot
the canon software doesn't give the option for the t4i... has t3i t5i t6i t7i but not t4i..... anybody?? none of the models work for the t4i either when downloading the utility
@@cloudnull hey man thanks for the quick reply, I've done that, now on streamlabs, all I can see is the cam through the webcam utility, but i'd like to use my elgato.. I have it hooked up and I see the option in slobs; however, just a black screen shows up.. ideas? UPDATE so I just unplugged the usb from the cam to the PC and it uses the capture card now... but it's not clean HDMI.. not sure the process using the magic lantern.. not super familiar with cameras. Also.. my t4i shuts off after like 10 seconds of being opened.. any fix for that?
@@lxformidablexl on your pc, if both the usb and hdmi cables are connected and the eos utility is loaded, you’ll have to quit the eos utility to get the web cam drivers functional in obs. The new drivers conflict with canon’s old drivers.
I followed all the steps to install Magic Lantern, but unfortunately it was not installed. Maybe I did something wrong? Could you help me to finish it?
Hey there. I put together this repo for getting up and running with ML on the canon t4i (650D) github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware -- let me know if this helps. Otherwise reach-out on discord and we'll see if we can help get you going in pseudo-real-time peznauts.com/discord
Hello friend. This video is already 2 years old. Do you know if I can currently download a driver to make my t4i a webcam through USB? On the Cannon website I cannot find the EOS Webcam Utility for this model. Thanks a lot if you reply.
I’m not actually sure if the driver is still available. You might need to go hunting. Another thing you can do is download any version of the eos 2 utility, canon used to bundle it with early versions of the eos 3 utility. If you can get the old eos 2 utility you should be able to make it work.
I don’t have a specific blog post or video showing my camera settings, however maybe I should 🤔? The trick to getting the hdmi output full-frame is to use the MagicLantern firmware and set “disable overlays” to “always”. Once you do that you can change the live view to the full-frame setup and you should be good to go. This is the firmware I’m using: builds.magiclantern.fm/650D-104.html The updated firmware has a lot of neat features, something I totally recommend playing around with.
Hey, many thanks for this informative content. I've tried to install ML several time but seem it is not working. There is error message 'ML directory not found!please copy all ML files
I’m using an elgato key light air [0] behind the camera, and an adjustable colored Govee light bulb [1] on the side. [0] amzn.to/3fpUljv [1] amzn.to/3oxPfpG
Yes, for the t4i (650D) the canon webcam driver look better. However the frame rate is only 15-17 FPS. While the HDMI output isn’t as clear or crisp, it is a lot smoother.
The setting is only available if you install the version with the lua fix. You can download everything you need here, which includes all of my settings - github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware - once installed you’ll be able to stream with you camera without issues.
@@평범한생존일기 If that one setting is not available then there only reason it would be missing is that the version of magic lantern is incorrect. The version with the lua fix is under experiments. builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
I'm new this kind of stuff but I got ML to work...however my live view doesn't seem to be full screen...theres a black boarder around my image....is there a way to fix that? Canon EOS 650D Firmware 1.0.4
@@cloudnull I eventually figured it out. There was a sticky half shutter feature to keep it open, but that got renamed. Also missed that if the auto power off isn't set to 30 minutes, the 30 minute override won't work. Thanks though, your video was very helpful!
The audio is in sync but it looks off due to the dual recording inputs. On the left image it seems a little out of sync due to the usb capture delay, but that’s not something I have to worry about as I don’t use the usb input while recoding or live.
@@Jeb_is_here I do. I use it on every live broadcast, even to this day twitch.com/peznauts - once dialed in, it works great. While it’d be wonderful to get a better camera, maybe one that was built for broadcasting, I haven’t found the need just yet.
The easiest way is by using the magic lantern firmware. You can use my exact settings by following the instructions found within the repository I maintain. github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
I think you might have saved my life lol I've been searching everywhere on how to get my T4i from shutting off. Now just need to figure out how to have the beta drivers keep the live view awake while I stream using the capture card.
If you use the magic lantern firmware you can keep the camera awake without having to install the webcam drivers. I’m running the following firmware now - builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html the version is magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Dec28.650D104 - I have a follow up video on the setup here which shows how I setup the scenes, remote focus, etc - ruclips.net/video/2nwqI21vnJQ/видео.html
@@cloudnull Thanks for the reply! Yeah I got it working correctly! The firmware I was starting with in my T4i needed to be at 104 before putting in the magic lantern firmware. Thanks for your help and videos!
Hey Dude! Great video! Ive been looking for a solution for the T4i for 2 weeks now... I came across your video, I also noticed you're using it in your Cyberpunk videos. Im wondering if you could explain or perhaps even make a video showing how you set up the hdmi from start to finish in OBS/Streamlabs or wtv you use. Cause when I try to set it up with HDMI it looks far worse than yours. It also has the liveview gray frame around the video. For me it looks more like its outputting a really low resolution to my capture card. Not sure why?! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I've been working on a follow up video to talk more about the setup. I should have that out this week. So stay tuned :D As for the setup I am using the canon t4i with the magic lantern firmware. Within the magic lantern options menu I use two settings: * Clear Overlays: Always * Power Save in LiveView > 30-minute timer: Disabled In OBS, to get the image to fit the screen without the surrounding black bars, I crop them out and resize the image to fit the scene. Depending on how large the scene size is, it can look a bit pixelated. I recommend trying to keep the scaling you do to a minimum. As for my lens, I use a canon 24MM EF-S with a polarized lens filter. This lens gives me a good overall wide angle, with a good f/stop, and the filter cleans up the image and helps remove light reflection from my glasses. I hope helps, if you have questions before I get the new video up, reach out on stream: Monday, Wednesday from 0100 UTC and Saturday 1230 UTC on basically all the platforms, including RUclips, Twitch, Facebook, and Periscope (twitter); I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have while live.
@@cloudnull Thanks a lot I really appreciate it the info! I do have 1 question I have the 1.0.4 firmware with the latest version of magic lantern installed. I dont however see the Power Save in LiveView > 30-minute timer option. its not there for me.
@@djxcrx88 The version of magic lantern you have to run is the experimental builds, I'm running - builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/lua_fix/451/artifact/platform/650D.104/magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Sep26.650D104.zip You can track and see all the current experimental builds here - builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
Sadly without a capture device I’ve not been able to get a stable feed over USB. I did put together a repository of firmware and settings which have worked really well for my past broadcasts, and could/can improve the overall experience github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware If you’ve got questions, or just want to chat setups, drop into our discord peznauts.com/discord
I am using a t3i with the same capture card. However the HDMI out resolution is very low. Like 480p. The picture looks great when live viewing, but as soon as I hit record in obs the quality drops significantly
Sadly this is kinda how it goes. The older cameras don't have a full HD output, or even an output that's a true 16:9. That said you can crop the output from the camera and fit the image to the screen within OBS.
Not true on the 30 minute setting. Magic lantern on my t4i lets me disable it and i have 5-8hr streams with it. You disable power saving and the 30 minute timer in magic lantern.
I appreciate the comment - Magic lantern with the lua fix, under experiments, provides the power saving options; without the lua fix those options don’t exist, which is what I was running when this video was made. We’ve talked about the lua fix a bit here in the various comments and I’ve actually put together a repo making it easy for folks to apply the appropriate firmware and all associated settings without needing to hunt for all the files needed to make it go - github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware I still use my t4i for streams peznauts.com/twitch and even though it’s not quite perfect, it’s great.
@@cloudnull sorry lmao i just spent so much time researching how to make it work because webcams were way overpriced a while back. You can also fix the colors using color correction and color key filters on streamlabs and obs, i like setting my saturation low and contrast high. This canon seems to make your skin color more red or rashy looking.
Hi @BoozieBeard, do you also record that session to disk? I think to remember the camera has a file size limit on recordings, thus effectively limit recording time as well...
@@Marcel-dt5du there are several limitations when recording locally on the camera, like the 4GiB file limit and a 30 minute segment limit but some of that can be overcome in ML as well. However, all of these recoding issues can be solved by simply recording on you PC instead.
You can press the info button to cycle through the overlay types. One should have that information displayed. To get a “clean” hdmi signal I recommend using the following repo to install magic lantern on your camera. The repo has everything needed and contains all Of the setting ms I use. github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
@@soldier0326 so you want to use the iPad as a monitor for the camera feed or are you trying to stream from the iPad with your t4i connected to the iPad ?
@@soldier0326 interesting. I have an iPad but I’ve never attempted to connect a capture card to it. It may work? I’ll give it a look and see if there’s a way to make that go. That said, if you can connect a capture card to your iPad and have it read the video stream it should work fine. WhT type of capture card are you working with?
Hi Penznauts, great informative video, it's one of the very few videos about using what you already have and making the best of it, make more if you can! I have bought the capture card and the Micro-HDMI cable about 3 months ago, but I didn't manage to make it work, do I need the canon web drivers still? I don't understand the whole process fully, I also have a Canon EOS 650D, and I'm trying to upgrade my video quality for my zoom language teaching sessions, thanks in advance
I refined my process quite a bit and have put together the following repository of things that can get you everything you need github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware The readme has a quick guide on the setup which will install the needed canon firmware and magic lantern. Also I’ve bundled all of my settings. So it’s almost plug and play. If you have questions jump into discord and I’d be happy to help any way I can. peznauts.com/discord
Sadly I don’t have a Mac to specifically test with however once you install magic lantern on your camera and setup your capture card it should work perfectly.
@@reslynn let me know how it goes. I’ve put together a repo with everything you need to successfully install magic lantern github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware - the repo and resources are platform agnostic and should get you running quickly with the settings I use for my live stream. Hope it helps.
pretty good, but if you want to make it more professional it's better with some sony a7iii or r6 or so, but they are close to 2k. anyhow, I have t4i, not using it because quality is terrible even on magic lantern and not sure it'f worth to tweak it, but yours looks good, what lenses you have?
You’re right in that the quality isn’t as good as it could be, however, it’s looks great when compared to having to spend $2K on a new camera 🤣 The lens I’m using in this video is a Canon 40mm f/2.8 STM Lens amzn.to/3jM6cs8 I’ve recently bought a Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Lens amzn.to/2HUdyMZ which I’ll be switching to (for my next stream). This lens will give me a wider (and sharper) look. Part of this upgrade is also a polarized lens filter amzn.to/3jMG0h6 which further cleans up the shot. I’ll be making a follow up video with the new setup and showing how the non-beta webcam drivers work, so stay tuned.
@@ruzaqir354 I too tinkered with an old mobile phone as a web camera (an old blackberry dtek60), it worked great; but I found the inverse. I liked the viewing angles you get out of mobile camera, but I’ve found the color correctness and depth is better on the DSLR, even if it’s an old one like the t4i.
@@cloudnull I mean it's better than using my old redmi note 4. The 650d works great. I miss spelled some word there. I used 650d alot for short tutorial and edit the color again in davinci works, pretty nice
Hi! I currently stream using a Logitech Brio, and I've been searching for a new camera to stream with. I'm wondering if you would recommend this camera over a brio?
I would not recommend the t4i over the brio. If you’re looking for a better camera I would probably go for an entry level mirrorless camera, with a preference towards something with interchangeable lenses. My current stream camera is an m200 and I love it. If you’re interested in the quality difference between the t4i vs something like an m200 check out this unlisted video ruclips.net/video/vm8DSUJmbJs/видео.html
Hey, thanks for the video. I have a 650d but there is allways this focus thing when the cam sees a face. So my face when I use it as a webcam in OBS. Can you tell me how to remove this auto focus square thing without deleting the auto focus? :D I have a 20€ Capture Card and it works great except this square around my face when i stream :(
The easiest way to remove the focus box is to turn off the auto focus; this is what I do because the auto focus is slow with my lens. That said, if you install the magic lantern firmware there’s an option to remove all overlays over the hdmi output, which will remove the focus box too. If you have a look at my early streams you can see that the focus was turned on because my camera was constantly refocusing, but there’s no overlay. As I Mentioned, I now just disable the auto focus. Before I stream I setup my focus using the canon desktop applications and then do my best to remain in the focal plain for the entire stream. I hope this helps.
@@cloudnull thanks so much. I didnt even know that there is an open scource "homebrew" like magic lantern. Now i dont need the usb connection for my 650. I just take the 20 Dollar capture Card and remove the overlay (Focus Box) Thanks!
Man, seriously informative vid! I learned so much. One question though. I have the boss's EOS 650D with a firmware version of 1.0.5. I installed your 1.0.4 firmware with no issue, and the camera's version is now 1.0.4. But when I tried installing your Magic Lantern file (ML-SETUP.FIR), I got stuck at 4% and the camera gave me an "Update file error. Please check the memory card and reload the battery and try again" message. I tried formatting the 16 GB card and the issue persists. Could you give me a solution? Thanks.
I suspect that the issue is that the base firmware needs to be reinstalled, then reformat your sdcard through the camera. However, I’ve not encountered that issue so I don’t have a specific solution to the issue your describing but jump in the discord and let’s see if we can work it out. peznauts.com/discord You could try reinstalling the 1.0.4 firmware the dump the entirety of my config to your sdcard and see if magic lantern loads, instructions here: github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
Yes you could turn it off and back on, but with the web cam drivers you don’t have to. Furthermore, with the latest magic lantern firmware, using the lua fix, there’s an option to disable the 30 minute shut down entirely. So while you could just turn it off an on again, in my opinion it’s a far better experience to not have to.
@@cloudnull I am alittle confused you see haha! So to use my camera the same way you use yours I would need an hdmi capture device and the webcam drivers from canon and im set to go?
@@User-0192-c8d Yes, I use both a capture card and the USB input. I talk more about the setup and configuration here: ruclips.net/video/2nwqI21vnJQ/видео.html - Basically the USB input is there to allow me to focus the camera remotely and change other camera specific settings. The HDMI cable is there for video into OBS. While you could do everything over USB, the framerate on this old camera over USB isn't very good (around 17FPS).
@@cloudnull Thank you for the reply! So you use both the mini hdmi out and AV out from the camera? so there are 2 wires coming out from the camera to the computer?
Your video is very helpful! Thanks for posting. Two questions: 1) Do you have a link to the Canon Webcam drivers? I have gone here (www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/eos-utility) but when I type in T4i nothing happens. 2) Despite not having the Canon utility, I was able to use my T4i on a Google Hangout (using the elgato capture card). In doing so I see all of the specifications from the viewfinder (i.e. aperture, battery power, etc) and the video feed shuts off after a few seconds. Do you know how to fix this?
Hi Anil, 1) the canon webcam drivers are not officially supported for the t4i however they work. You can select any camera and download the drivers to install them. 2) in order to get a clear hdmi signal you need to upgrade the firmware. I’m running the magic lantern firmware, specifically this release builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/lua_fix/451/artifact/platform/650D.104/magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Sep26.650D104.zip - once you have the new firmware installed you’ll be able to disable the auto shutdown and get a clean hdmi signal (no overlays). Let me Lee if you have any other questions.
Hey, many thanks for this informative content. I have a question. Can you stream 720p 60fps instead of 1080p 30. I know t4i support max 1080 30 or 720 60. If it is possible, what are the camera settings ? If not possible 720p 60fps, Is it because of the capture card or the t4i?
Sadly the HDMI output on the t4i(650D) is only 1080i and it still has black bars on the side, even with custom firmware. In OBS, or other broadcasting software, you can crop the bars out and the display looks good but it’s more 1050i than anything else. In terms of FPS it’s locked at 30. The options for live view on this aging camera are extremely limited. All that said, I’m still using it for all of my streams and IMO looks great, especially when the primary focus is on the content I’m streaming, not my talking head.
Hello dude! Cool video. I am from Russia, I was looking for how to solve the problem of turning off the t4i, your video, it helped me a lot! I don't understand English well, but my knowledge was enough to figure it out, special thanks for the information about fix LUA. А это отдельная благодарность на моем родном языке: СПАСИБО С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ !😅
Привет, Тим, спасибо за просмотр, и я ценю комментарий. Я пишу вам в гугл-переводчике, так как я не говорю по-русски, но я подумал попробовать, я рад, что у вас работает камера. Мне интересно узнать, что вы думаете об использовании t4i в качестве веб-камеры или для потоковой передачи. I hope you have a happy new year to you too! 😊
If you’re talking about the magic lantern firmware you need to select the 650D, which the camera model number. Otherwise, I’m not sure what choice you’re making?
@@ohhcikgu Never apologize for poor English. Speaking and writing any second language is always challenging and I appreciate you asking the question. Good luck, and have fun.
Hi, I just happen to have a t 4i but have no knowledge of why or how to use it to live stream. I am just getting into this so please try to speak in child language for me... Thank you...
If you have questions on the setup jump into my stream twitch.com/peznauts - happy to answer any questions you might have. In terms of setup have a look at the t4i repo I maintain with has everything you need to get up and running. github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware the read me is pretty easy to follow and should get you online.
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Thank you so much! I love my T4i it was my first prosumer purchase and now im transitioning to using it for my streams and since I can keept the viewfinder from going to sleep I am GOOD MONEY!!! LOVE THIS! Thanks again!
Woah, this opens up a world for people using better (but old) cameras instead of webcams or expensive new cameras.
Totally Agree :)
Hey dude, nice video.
I also have a t4i and there's a way to stop the 30 minutes limit with ML... You just have to download the LUA update and you will find the option in the ML settings
Do you have a link to the LUA update you're applying? I'm currently running the latest build (2018-07-03) which notes it has the LUA fix, however, there's no option to remove the 30 Minute shutdown, which is why I'm using the webcam drivers to keep it active.
I assume you're running on the experimental builds? builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
@@cloudnull builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
Download the one that says 650d at the end, install it and restart the camera.
Then in the settings go to Prefs tab -> Powersave in Liveview -> 30-minutes timer set to "Disable"
Done and done. I was planning to make a follow up video with the newly released canon webcam drivers (they’re no longer beta on windows) and I guess I’ll be doing it a newer version of ML too :)
Thanks again for the tip!
Hi there I'm following this thread. I've also got a T4i. If I install the latest ML will that give me everything I need to disable the 30 minute shut down? What is LUA update?
Hey. Great video. I'm looking to do this in 2023. Any updates I should know about?
None that I’m aware of. It should all work as is still.
Great video, been trying to find this info everywhere! I will try to set this up today on mine. Ty
Hey this is a great video however, the Amazon listing for the HDMI capture card no longer works, could you update the description with a link to one you would recommend? Thanks!
On it.
Done. Thanks for letting me know.
Hello, I hope that you are well, After several attempts, I was unable to get the same adjustment that you made on the 650d camera. Please check the files you provided for installation. As well as recording a video of the process from beginning to end, as I desperately need this process. I would be grateful to you sir...thank you
I’ll try to put together an end to end tutorial in the coming weeks. I’m on holiday so it’ll be a little bit until I’m able to get started.
Can you do a video on how you set this up I just got a capture card but my video cuts out after about 30 seconds just goes black I cant figure out how to fix it I was usingthe usb eos utility but the port it nnow a bit busted as I've ben using it for ages and having to swap batterys between calls
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Sure. I’ll try and do a full tutorial in the coming week.
Thank you SO much! I tried nearly every camera setting and didn't get rid of the auto-off function of live view. The workaround with USB isn't what I wish for, but it will do the trick. This will help me a lot
the canon software doesn't give the option for the t4i... has t3i t5i t6i t7i but not t4i..... anybody?? none of the models work for the t4i either when downloading the utility
Canon doesn’t recognize the t4i as “officially” supported. To download just select any EOS camera model and search for the webcam drivers.
@@cloudnull hey man thanks for the quick reply, I've done that, now on streamlabs, all I can see is the cam through the webcam utility, but i'd like to use my elgato.. I have it hooked up and I see the option in slobs; however, just a black screen shows up.. ideas? UPDATE so I just unplugged the usb from the cam to the PC and it uses the capture card now... but it's not clean HDMI.. not sure the process using the magic lantern.. not super familiar with cameras. Also.. my t4i shuts off after like 10 seconds of being opened.. any fix for that?
@@lxformidablexl on your pc, if both the usb and hdmi cables are connected and the eos utility is loaded, you’ll have to quit the eos utility to get the web cam drivers functional in obs. The new drivers conflict with canon’s old drivers.
Omg same!! Mine doesn’t work either
I was looking for a way to keep the live view from turning off and you have given me the easiest solution. Thank you!!
Glad I could help!
So the hdmi capture stream a stays on too when the webcam beta stream is active?
woooow thank you very much, from mexico, I have been looking for a solution for years and I couldn't find it, you are the best.
Once you get setup let me know how it goes. If you have questions or just want to show off the setup pop into the discord peznauts.com/discord
I followed all the steps to install Magic Lantern, but unfortunately it was not installed. Maybe I did something wrong? Could you help me to finish it?
Hey there. I put together this repo for getting up and running with ML on the canon t4i (650D) github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware -- let me know if this helps. Otherwise reach-out on discord and we'll see if we can help get you going in pseudo-real-time peznauts.com/discord
Hello friend. This video is already 2 years old. Do you know if I can currently download a driver to make my t4i a webcam through USB? On the Cannon website I cannot find the EOS Webcam Utility for this model. Thanks a lot if you reply.
I’m not actually sure if the driver is still available. You might need to go hunting. Another thing you can do is download any version of the eos 2 utility, canon used to bundle it with early versions of the eos 3 utility. If you can get the old eos 2 utility you should be able to make it work.
I enjoyed the video, can you share you camera settings, I can't get the video to full the frame. Do you have any suggestions
I don’t have a specific blog post or video showing my camera settings, however maybe I should 🤔?
The trick to getting the hdmi output full-frame is to use the MagicLantern firmware and set “disable overlays” to “always”. Once you do that you can change the live view to the full-frame setup and you should be good to go.
This is the firmware I’m using: builds.magiclantern.fm/650D-104.html
The updated firmware has a lot of neat features, something I totally recommend playing around with.
Peznauts thank you I would look into it.
I think I need to revert to 1.0.4 firmware would try it later
so i will need to buy the a/v out digital cable and the mini hdmi out. Aswell as a capture card for the total items needed?
Yes, you can get a cheap capture card and a mini hdmi to full hdmi cable.
This is what I’ve used:
Cable amzn.to/3cqppiq
Capture amzn.to/3z6LHiW
Hey, many thanks for this informative content. I've tried to install ML several time but seem it is not working. There is error message 'ML directory not found!please copy all ML files
sorry somehow i managed to solved it. Thank you so much
@Peznauts Can you tell me what light you have on the top of the camera please? I also need to add a light option. Thanks.
I’m using an elgato key light air [0] behind the camera, and an adjustable colored Govee light bulb [1] on the side.
[0] amzn.to/3fpUljv
[1] amzn.to/3oxPfpG
In the linked Instagram there is a light on top of the camera. That is the one I am curious about
@@sfguy4739 the light on top the camera is a YN300 amzn.to/3tVTxZ2
Thanks for great video! Simple question, what about camera power supply?
I use a dummy battery. amzn.to/3w2BBOa it allows me to power the camera indefinitely.
The canon drivers look better than the HDMI for some reason? looking side by side trhe hdmi clean looks blurrier.
Yes, for the t4i (650D) the canon webcam driver look better. However the frame rate is only 15-17 FPS. While the HDMI output isn’t as clear or crisp, it is a lot smoother.
@@cloudnull ahh, so you would have to sacrifice quality for the FPS. Fair. Thanks for the reply :)
is this still possible to use as webcam?
Yes it is
I installed a magic lantern, but the camera turns off every 30 minutes. Is there an additional part that needs to be set?
The setting is only available if you install the version with the lua fix. You can download everything you need here, which includes all of my settings - github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware - once installed you’ll be able to stream with you camera without issues.
@@cloudnull Thank you for your reply, but Why can't I see Powersave in liveview on my menu?... I did the same thing...
@@평범한생존일기 If that one setting is not available then there only reason it would be missing is that the version of magic lantern is incorrect. The version with the lua fix is under experiments. builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
@@cloudnull Thank you. Everything was solved thanks to you. I wish you all the best
I'm new this kind of stuff but I got ML to work...however my live view doesn't seem to be full screen...theres a black boarder around my image....is there a way to fix that?
Canon EOS 650D
Firmware 1.0.4
The live view mode on these older cameras is limited and the black bars you see is normal. My best recommendation is to crop the bars out in OBS.
@@cloudnull for a video that's like 1 year already, you sure do reply quick.... and i thank you for that!!! I'll try that out
For the life of me I can't find the sticky shutter option, do you know if that has moved somewhere?
Are you looking for shutter speed on the camera?
@@cloudnull I eventually figured it out. There was a sticky half shutter feature to keep it open, but that got renamed. Also missed that if the auto power off isn't set to 30 minutes, the 30 minute override won't work. Thanks though, your video was very helpful!
Can I connect the t5i on the atem mini?
why doesnt your audio sync up? did u record separately ?
The audio is in sync but it looks off due to the dual recording inputs. On the left image it seems a little out of sync due to the usb capture delay, but that’s not something I have to worry about as I don’t use the usb input while recoding or live.
@@cloudnull do you still use this camera?
@@Jeb_is_here I do. I use it on every live broadcast, even to this day twitch.com/peznauts - once dialed in, it works great. While it’d be wonderful to get a better camera, maybe one that was built for broadcasting, I haven’t found the need just yet.
How do you get a clean hdmi out on a Canon 650d??
The easiest way is by using the magic lantern firmware. You can use my exact settings by following the instructions found within the repository I maintain.
github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
I think you might have saved my life lol I've been searching everywhere on how to get my T4i from shutting off. Now just need to figure out how to have the beta drivers keep the live view awake while I stream using the capture card.
If you use the magic lantern firmware you can keep the camera awake without having to install the webcam drivers. I’m running the following firmware now - builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html the version is magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Dec28.650D104 - I have a follow up video on the setup here which shows how I setup the scenes, remote focus, etc - ruclips.net/video/2nwqI21vnJQ/видео.html
@@cloudnull I wasn't able to use that firmware :/. I'll run through the list and see if I can get a firmware installed
Just make sure the camera model number matches the download. For the t4i you’ll need the file with “650D” in it.
@@cloudnull Thanks for the reply! Yeah I got it working correctly! The firmware I was starting with in my T4i needed to be at 104 before putting in the magic lantern firmware. Thanks for your help and videos!
Hey Dude! Great video! Ive been looking for a solution for the T4i for 2 weeks now... I came across your video, I also noticed you're using it in your Cyberpunk videos. Im wondering if you could explain or perhaps even make a video showing how you set up the hdmi from start to finish in OBS/Streamlabs or wtv you use. Cause when I try to set it up with HDMI it looks far worse than yours. It also has the liveview gray frame around the video. For me it looks more like its outputting a really low resolution to my capture card. Not sure why?! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I've been working on a follow up video to talk more about the setup. I should have that out this week. So stay tuned :D
As for the setup I am using the canon t4i with the magic lantern firmware.
Within the magic lantern options menu I use two settings:
* Clear Overlays: Always
* Power Save in LiveView > 30-minute timer: Disabled
In OBS, to get the image to fit the screen without the surrounding black bars, I crop them out and resize the image to fit the scene. Depending on how large the scene size is, it can look a bit pixelated. I recommend trying to keep the scaling you do to a minimum.
As for my lens, I use a canon 24MM EF-S with a polarized lens filter. This lens gives me a good overall wide angle, with a good f/stop, and the filter cleans up the image and helps remove light reflection from my glasses.
I hope helps, if you have questions before I get the new video up, reach out on stream: Monday, Wednesday from 0100 UTC and Saturday 1230 UTC on basically all the platforms, including RUclips, Twitch, Facebook, and Periscope (twitter); I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have while live.
@@cloudnull Thanks a lot I really appreciate it the info!
I do have 1 question I have the 1.0.4 firmware with the latest version of magic lantern installed.
I dont however see the Power Save in LiveView > 30-minute timer option. its not there for me.
@@cloudnull When I set up the camera on OBS, it shows me that the camera is only outputting 480p. Is that the case for you as well?
@@djxcrx88 The version of magic lantern you have to run is the experimental builds, I'm running - builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/lua_fix/451/artifact/platform/650D.104/magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Sep26.650D104.zip
You can track and see all the current experimental builds here - builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
@@djxcrx88 Within OBS it shows up for me as a 1080i source though the cropped image to remove the bars the feed is 1527x868.
What do you use for your battery situation?
I use a cheap dummy battery so the camera never tubes off. amzn.to/3uYCjfs I’ve been using this adapter since 2018 and it’s been great.
great video. have you found a way to improve the latency?
Sadly without a capture device I’ve not been able to get a stable feed over USB. I did put together a repository of firmware and settings which have worked really well for my past broadcasts, and could/can improve the overall experience github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
If you’ve got questions, or just want to chat setups, drop into our discord peznauts.com/discord
I am using a t3i with the same capture card. However the HDMI out resolution is very low. Like 480p. The picture looks great when live viewing, but as soon as I hit record in obs the quality drops significantly
Sadly this is kinda how it goes. The older cameras don't have a full HD output, or even an output that's a true 16:9. That said you can crop the output from the camera and fit the image to the screen within OBS.
Not true on the 30 minute setting. Magic lantern on my t4i lets me disable it and i have 5-8hr streams with it. You disable power saving and the 30 minute timer in magic lantern.
I appreciate the comment - Magic lantern with the lua fix, under experiments, provides the power saving options; without the lua fix those options don’t exist, which is what I was running when this video was made. We’ve talked about the lua fix a bit here in the various comments and I’ve actually put together a repo making it easy for folks to apply the appropriate firmware and all associated settings without needing to hunt for all the files needed to make it go - github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
I still use my t4i for streams peznauts.com/twitch and even though it’s not quite perfect, it’s great.
@@cloudnull sorry lmao i just spent so much time researching how to make it work because webcams were way overpriced a while back. You can also fix the colors using color correction and color key filters on streamlabs and obs, i like setting my saturation low and contrast high. This canon seems to make your skin color more red or rashy looking.
Hi @BoozieBeard, do you also record that session to disk? I think to remember the camera has a file size limit on recordings, thus effectively limit recording time as well...
@@Marcel-dt5du there are several limitations when recording locally on the camera, like the 4GiB file limit and a 30 minute segment limit but some of that can be overcome in ML as well. However, all of these recoding issues can be solved by simply recording on you PC instead.
Great video! One question though, with the HDMI I can't seem to get rid of "no card in camera" or a red 0.00 counter. Any suggestions?
You can press the info button to cycle through the overlay types. One should have that information displayed. To get a “clean” hdmi signal I recommend using the following repo to install magic lantern on your camera. The repo has everything needed and contains all
Of the setting ms I use. github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
@peznauts, great video. Is there a way to do this with an iPad Pro?! I’ve been all over trying to figure this out and it’s beyond me.
Tell me more about what you’re trying to do with the iPad ?
@@cloudnull I have an iPad pro and I'm trying to live stream and record you tube videos using my Canon Rebel t4i.
@@soldier0326 so you want to use the iPad as a monitor for the camera feed or are you trying to stream from the iPad with your t4i connected to the iPad ?
@@cloudnull I am trying to stream from the iPad with the t4i connected to it.
@@soldier0326 interesting. I have an iPad but I’ve never attempted to connect a capture card to it. It may work? I’ll give it a look and see if there’s a way to make that go. That said, if you can connect a capture card to your iPad and have it read the video stream it should work fine. WhT type of capture card are you working with?
Hi Penznauts, great informative video, it's one of the very few videos about using what you already have and making the best of it, make more if you can! I have bought the capture card and the Micro-HDMI cable about 3 months ago, but I didn't manage to make it work, do I need the canon web drivers still? I don't understand the whole process fully, I also have a Canon EOS 650D, and I'm trying to upgrade my video quality for my zoom language teaching sessions, thanks in advance
I refined my process quite a bit and have put together the following repository of things that can get you everything you need github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
The readme has a quick guide on the setup which will install the needed canon firmware and magic lantern. Also I’ve bundled all of my settings. So it’s almost plug and play.
If you have questions jump into discord and I’d be happy to help any way I can. peznauts.com/discord
@@cloudnull Perfect, I will try again and follow along using your guide, I will message you in the discord if I get stuck or something, thank you.
I have a Mac, can I still use my Canon t4i to livestream even FB live?
Sadly I don’t have a Mac to specifically test with however once you install magic lantern on your camera and setup your capture card it should work perfectly.
@@cloudnull Thanks. I’ll try it and would let you know too if it worked.
@@reslynn let me know how it goes. I’ve put together a repo with everything you need to successfully install magic lantern github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware - the repo and resources are platform agnostic and should get you running quickly with the settings I use for my live stream. Hope it helps.
man thx for the thought
Super helpful! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
pretty good, but if you want to make it more professional it's better with some sony a7iii or r6 or so, but they are close to 2k. anyhow, I have t4i, not using it because quality is terrible even on magic lantern and not sure it'f worth to tweak it, but yours looks good, what lenses you have?
You’re right in that the quality isn’t as good as it could be, however, it’s looks great when compared to having to spend $2K on a new camera 🤣
The lens I’m using in this video is a Canon 40mm f/2.8 STM Lens amzn.to/3jM6cs8
I’ve recently bought a Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Lens amzn.to/2HUdyMZ which I’ll be switching to (for my next stream). This lens will give me a wider (and sharper) look. Part of this upgrade is also a polarized lens filter amzn.to/3jMG0h6 which further cleans up the shot. I’ll be making a follow up video with the new setup and showing how the non-beta webcam drivers work, so stay tuned.
@@cloudnull i tried it ... i work good if u just starting out.. better using my old redmi note 4 to capture @_@
@@ruzaqir354 I too tinkered with an old mobile phone as a web camera (an old blackberry dtek60), it worked great; but I found the inverse. I liked the viewing angles you get out of mobile camera, but I’ve found the color correctness and depth is better on the DSLR, even if it’s an old one like the t4i.
@@cloudnull I mean it's better than using my old redmi note 4. The 650d works great. I miss spelled some word there. I used 650d alot for short tutorial and edit the color again in davinci works, pretty nice
@@ruzaqir354 ah. That makes sense :)
Are you using the magic lantern firmware as well?
Hi! I currently stream using a Logitech Brio, and I've been searching for a new camera to stream with. I'm wondering if you would recommend this camera over a brio?
I would not recommend the t4i over the brio. If you’re looking for a better camera I would probably go for an entry level mirrorless camera, with a preference towards something with interchangeable lenses. My current stream camera is an m200 and I love it. If you’re interested in the quality difference between the t4i vs something like an m200 check out this unlisted video ruclips.net/video/vm8DSUJmbJs/видео.html
Hey, thanks for the video. I have a 650d but there is allways this focus thing when the cam sees a face. So my face when I use it as a webcam in OBS. Can you tell me how to remove this auto focus square thing without deleting the auto focus? :D I have a 20€ Capture Card and it works great except this square around my face when i stream :(
The easiest way to remove the focus box is to turn off the auto focus; this is what I do because the auto focus is slow with my lens. That said, if you install the magic lantern firmware there’s an option to remove all overlays over the hdmi output, which will remove the focus box too. If you have a look at my early streams you can see that the focus was turned on because my camera was constantly refocusing, but there’s no overlay. As I Mentioned, I now just disable the auto focus. Before I stream I setup my focus using the canon desktop applications and then do my best to remain in the focal plain for the entire stream. I hope this helps.
@@cloudnull thanks so much. I didnt even know that there is an open scource "homebrew" like magic lantern.
Now i dont need the usb connection for my 650. I just take the 20 Dollar capture Card and remove the overlay (Focus Box)
Thanks!
You are a life saver!! Thank you!!!
Welcome!
Thank you for your explanation, but try to show the camera while teaching.
Thanks. I’ll try and do better.
Man, seriously informative vid! I learned so much. One question though. I have the boss's EOS 650D with a firmware version of 1.0.5. I installed your 1.0.4 firmware with no issue, and the camera's version is now 1.0.4. But when I tried installing your Magic Lantern file (ML-SETUP.FIR), I got stuck at 4% and the camera gave me an "Update file error. Please check the memory card and reload the battery and try again" message. I tried formatting the 16 GB card and the issue persists. Could you give me a solution? Thanks.
I suspect that the issue is that the base firmware needs to be reinstalled, then reformat your sdcard through the camera. However, I’ve not encountered that issue so I don’t have a specific solution to the issue your describing but jump in the discord and let’s see if we can work it out. peznauts.com/discord
You could try reinstalling the 1.0.4 firmware the dump the entirety of my config to your sdcard and see if magic lantern loads, instructions here: github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware
Can u use the camera for Skype or zoom or discord too?
Yes. With either a capture device or via the usb drivers you can use this setup for zoom, Skype, meet, etc.
As for my hdmi capture card, at the time of this recording I was using a cheap USB 2.0 capture stick. Today I’m using the AVerMedia live gamer duo.
@@cloudnull thank you for the answer:)
@@erikkisselmann930 of course. I hope it helps.
when it turns off cant u just turn it back on and it takes like a second?
Yes you could turn it off and back on, but with the web cam drivers you don’t have to. Furthermore, with the latest magic lantern firmware, using the lua fix, there’s an option to disable the 30 minute shut down entirely. So while you could just turn it off an on again, in my opinion it’s a far better experience to not have to.
@@cloudnull I am alittle confused you see haha! So to use my camera the same way you use yours I would need an hdmi capture device and the webcam drivers from canon and im set to go?
@@User-0192-c8d Yes, I use both a capture card and the USB input. I talk more about the setup and configuration here: ruclips.net/video/2nwqI21vnJQ/видео.html - Basically the USB input is there to allow me to focus the camera remotely and change other camera specific settings. The HDMI cable is there for video into OBS. While you could do everything over USB, the framerate on this old camera over USB isn't very good (around 17FPS).
@@cloudnull Thank you for the reply! So you use both the mini hdmi out and AV out from the camera? so there are 2 wires coming out from the camera to the computer?
Your video is very helpful! Thanks for posting. Two questions:
1) Do you have a link to the Canon Webcam drivers? I have gone here (www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/eos-utility) but when I type in T4i nothing happens.
2) Despite not having the Canon utility, I was able to use my T4i on a Google Hangout (using the elgato capture card). In doing so I see all of the specifications from the viewfinder (i.e. aperture, battery power, etc) and the video feed shuts off after a few seconds. Do you know how to fix this?
Hi Anil,
1) the canon webcam drivers are not officially supported for the t4i however they work. You can select any camera and download the drivers to install them.
2) in order to get a clear hdmi signal you need to upgrade the firmware. I’m running the magic lantern firmware, specifically this release builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/lua_fix/451/artifact/platform/650D.104/magiclantern-lua_fix.2020Sep26.650D104.zip - once you have the new firmware installed you’ll be able to disable the auto shutdown and get a clean hdmi signal (no overlays).
Let me Lee if you have any other questions.
Hey, many thanks for this informative content. I have a question. Can you stream 720p 60fps instead of 1080p 30. I know t4i support max 1080 30 or 720 60. If it is possible, what are the camera settings ? If not possible 720p 60fps, Is it because of the capture card or the t4i?
Sadly the HDMI output on the t4i(650D) is only 1080i and it still has black bars on the side, even with custom firmware. In OBS, or other broadcasting software, you can crop the bars out and the display looks good but it’s more 1050i than anything else. In terms of FPS it’s locked at 30. The options for live view on this aging camera are extremely limited. All that said, I’m still using it for all of my streams and IMO looks great, especially when the primary focus is on the content I’m streaming, not my talking head.
Hello dude! Cool video. I am from Russia, I was looking for how to solve the problem of turning off the t4i, your video, it helped me a lot! I don't understand English well, but my knowledge was enough to figure it out, special thanks for the information about fix LUA.
А это отдельная благодарность на моем родном языке: СПАСИБО
С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ !😅
Привет, Тим, спасибо за просмотр, и я ценю комментарий. Я пишу вам в гугл-переводчике, так как я не говорю по-русски, но я подумал попробовать, я рад, что у вас работает камера. Мне интересно узнать, что вы думаете об использовании t4i в качестве веб-камеры или для потоковой передачи.
I hope you have a happy new year to you too! 😊
Why i dont have the choice t4i
If you’re talking about the magic lantern firmware you need to select the 650D, which the camera model number. Otherwise, I’m not sure what choice you’re making?
@@cloudnullokay ty sorry my english bad. 😂
@@ohhcikgu Never apologize for poor English. Speaking and writing any second language is always challenging and I appreciate you asking the question. Good luck, and have fun.
Hi, I just happen to have a t 4i but have no knowledge of why or how to use it to live stream. I am just getting into this so please try to speak in child language for me... Thank you...
If you have questions on the setup jump into my stream twitch.com/peznauts - happy to answer any questions you might have. In terms of setup have a look at the t4i repo I maintain with has everything you need to get up and running. github.com/peznauts/camera-t4i-firmware the read me is pretty easy to follow and should get you online.
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