CZ P01 vs 75 D Compact (PCR) - some Czech alternatives to the Glock 19.
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- These are two older compact 9mm pistols in my collection. The CZ 75 P-01 and CZ 75 D Compact (a.k.a. PCR) are two aluminum frame DA/SA 9mm pistols, that are usually overlooked when people are selecting carry pistols.
There are a few notable differences beyond the obvious rail on the P-01 and the shorter non-railed dust-cover on the PCR. The P-01 seems geared more toward duty use, while the PCR is clearly aimed at the concealed carry market.
The mid-sized pistol market is flooded with great options beyond these two pistols, even a number of other options from CZ. But if you're looking for a good alloy-framed DA/SA pistol to carry, you should definitely consider these two.
I haven't included any shooting footage with these pistols. I have some other footage of me shooting the P-01 on my channel in various videos, but no footage yet of the PCR. Just lots of dry-fire these past months.
If you're considering buying the PCR (75 D Compact), definitely watch until 20:52 to see what happens when you try to load from the breach, as opposed to loading from the magazine. Most semi-automatic pistols (excluding the 1911) can be loaded from the breach without issue, but this specific iteration of the CZ 75 cannot. Might be a deal breaker for some.
I was waiting for increasingly exotic animals to interrupt.
"Sorry, that was my capybara..."
Haha. I used to have a few scorpions. Hopefully they wouldn't have so brazenly interrupted as the other critters.
P01 Omega is my carry gun , no mods other than Truglo Tritium pro night sights and som Lok thin matrix grips. I will never go back to a striker fired polymer pistol for edc I’m much more confident carrying a decocked hammer fired pistol and the CZ is super reliable and accurate
I love the Omegas. IMO, the out of the box omega triggers are better than the standard CZ line. The confidence of hammer-down is a very nice thing.
I don’t like polymer pistol 🤮
Thank you SO much for the details about the LCI on the PCR. Not many other videos show how it operates internally. Also thank you for going through the weight differences of the various components!
Some say the split pin that stops the firing pin is a split pin for a reason. Split pin does slowly collapse and eventually break if one dry fires a lot. Split pin is effectively acting as an impact surface and the pin's slow collapse is reducing the firing pin's likelihood of work hardening and eventually breaking. Replacing the split pin with a solid pin puts more stress on the firing pin and thereby increases the likelihood of firing pin breakage.
Awesome review explaining some of the nuances, thanks!
Ty. I’ve enjoyed watching your video. I sold a Glock 23 for the D compact. Going to try to go to the range today👍
Been a Glock and M&P guy and with in the last year I have purchased both of these guns and really like both of them. I recently i stalled TFX Pro sights on my my PCR. Huge improvement over the stock sights. Great video.
Both are great pistols, but I prefer pistols with no rail so the PCR was my choice. Love mine as my EDC!
I'm in the process of getting into carrying, why do you prefer no rail? Thanks!
@@zeke-hernandez I’m retired, I don’t go out at night much. And when i do its just to my local gas/store to pick something up. Also I’m a minimalist when carrying so its only going to be a sc gun, flashlight, knife, and depending what gun spare ammo. I just don’t want the bulkyness of a compact gun w/light. But that’s me, you do what you want.
Now for a nightstand gun, that’s different!
@@zeke-hernandez probably a late comment, but in terms of rails I recommend a rail only for your home defense gun. When you're carrying a gun all day, every square cm. of space and every ounce will begin to add up. You want to keep your carry gun as compact as you can while still being able to control the recoil of whatever you're carrying.
i agree that the CZ 75 Compact series (P-01 or PCR variants) and hidden CCW gems.. used more commonly than people realize with happy reports. And then surprisingly less-cumbersome to those trying for the 1st time.. Great video/comparison!
It's a lot of gun for Glock MOS money. CZ got a lot of things right with the 75 series. Definitely more dated, but I also still occasionally carry a 1911...
You can also run any of the standard 9mm CZ mags in both as well , so anywhere from 10-17 rds. They'll stick out the bottom but they run. PCR is my choice.
Nice video. I own a CZ 75 Compact, all steel (no decocker) with less recoil because of it’s construction, it’s reliable & accurate. You can’t go wrong with a CZ.
I don't own a steel CZ but I've shot a few. The safety models I've shot have had slightly sharper triggers, and the recoil is so pleasant, even moreso than the P01. I also like that when the hammer is lowered to DA mode, you can't engage the safety. Solid choice!
@@rjg02005 Regardless of which model; CZ makes a great weapon. With Cajun Gun Works to help tune them up to an unbelievable tolerance, you can’t go wrong. I recently purchased a SIG P228, which is being Cherakoted at the the present time. I think SIG is as good as CZ, especially their early German models. Thanks for the reply, shoot straight & stay safe.
@@danieljohnson5726 congrats on the Sig! My brother has a 229 Legion and I've shot one of the first gen 228s back in the day. Very pleasant. I'm happy with CGW parts. You kind of need to put them in to get a stock CZ in the same ballpark as a sig, IMO.
@rjg02005 Great video mate. Really helpful. Was debating between the 2 guns and started to tend toward the 75D PCR until the end of the video. That last part is scary to me. I think i ll go with the p01.
Thank you for the video to explain the differences. While I like the light rail as an option, it really changes the ascetics on the gun, I prefer the look of the compact original.
It's not an alternative, it's the wise choice.
That Diablo II portal sound caught me off guard lol.
LOL at the Diablo portal sounds in the background
Does anyone know where to get those 14-round flat base magazines?
I got 2 15 round metgar mags with my pcr. Just bought some good grips and some tru-glo TFX sights for mine.
I really like the TFX sights - super bright. Since the video I put a matching fiber sight on the PCR to the sight on the P01, but have decided to stick with that (mostly due to cost) for now. I'm glad the newer CZs seem to be shipping with the Mecgar mags. They seem to be better made than the older factory mags, IMO.
@@rjg02005 It is by far the best shooting handgun I own so far. If ammo wasnt so expensive I would try to shoot a few matches with it. The only issue I ran into was single breech loading because of the loaded chamber indicator though like you pointed out.
I'd like to compliment the microphone you're using. The sound is noticeably better than average vids.
Thanks. This means a lot, it's something I didn't do well in many of my earlier videos and I'm glad you noticed.
I appreciate your comparison. The P-01 & 75 D PCR are somewhat similar, & I have been trying to sort out differences beyond the front attachment rail. I thought I might like the round indicator feature, but now I'm leaning towards the P-01 (without one). Thanks!
I think the chamber loaded indicator is a nice feature in theory, but it's ultimately an unnecessary component that can get gummed up and cause issues. I will say that the narrower muzzle end of the PCR carries nicer if you're using a leather or hybrid holster. There isn't much difference shooting, but I'd give the advantage slightly to the P01. Both are pretty light recoiling, but if you hang a light on the P01 it recoils ridiculously flat.
The chamber indicator... after 300 rounds unscrewed itself & came off, fell on the range floor never to be seen again 🤦
The PCR looks exactly like a gun I tried to buy a ways back. Still seems like a good idea. Cajun just got some in
@ nomikes; if it was a PCR?
you'll need to kick your self because they are hard to find.
Impulse buy the moment I found mine new in 2019. I look no further for EDC.'s You may have to part w $800 now.
Good luck! 🇺🇸
That does look like a nice carry piece. 😉👍🏻
I have a CZ 75 SP-01 and a 97B. Love my CZs and I hope to pick up a P-01 soon. After you put a Cajun Gunworks trigger kit in, there aren't many better shooting guns.
The CGW components turn an already good trigger into one of the best DA triggers.
Will keep CGW in mind but 1st things 1st.metgars on the radar too.L8r
Yo what grips are on that po1?? I need those on my pcr!
Thanks, what kind of front FO sight is on the P01 and how does it sight with stock rears
I got the fiber on the P01 from Cajun Gun Works and installed myself. It's whatever the standard height is for the 75 sights. It's a perfect hold with the stock rear sight (bullet impact at the top edge of the front sight at 15 yards) with my target ammo. The PCR has a taller FS, I believe 6.5mm, and that impacts 1.5 inches low at 15yrds, which is about covering your intended target with the dot.
What's Brackin Blood?
I have a pcr and i almost ordered a steel guide rod before I read a story that the steel guide rod will wear down your aluminum frame with recoil. It makes sense steel vs aluminum but does anyone have experience with this?
Still rockin the plastic guide rod
I've seen this in a forum. The heavier spring I mentioned was in response to this issue (I only put it in when I know I'm going to shoot hotter ammo), and you can put a recoil buffer in there as well. Lighter and more-worn recoil springs will lead to more impact to the frame over time. That said, I have about 1500 rounds through the p-01 (bought new) and 700 that I've put through the PCR (bought used) and have not noticed any of this deformation first hand in either gun.
Well done!
Would have liked to see more of a comparison on the P 01 & the 75 like the title suggested....
These are really three guns in the class. The P01, PCR (Both have aluminum frames) and the Compact which is all steel.
I've only handled the steel version of the compact. I like the full size steel pistols quite a bit, but for me, I think it's the compact steel frame is too heavy for what I'm looking for.
What's your experience with it? How does it shoot compared to the aluminum frames? The two AL guns shown are some of my smoothest shooting pistols.
@(RG) I've only had a very short/limited time with a P01. Felt like part of my hand. Most of my information comes from lots of research to invest what little funds I have wisely.
do the steel guide rods damage your frame ? i have one i want to install
I've seen one report of this happening, but never seen it personally. I have steel rods in both guns. I've put around 2200 through the P01 (bought new) and put at least 500 through the PCR (bought used). No evidence of this issue on either.
That said, if it happens, it'll start slow, so check every time the gun is apart and take out the steel guide rod if your frame starts to deform.
Can you put a pin on those magazines to comply with 10 rounder states? If so is it easy to do
Mec gar sells 10rd mags that are dimpled versions of their 15rd mags. The cz 10rd mags are different and, IMO, less good than the mec gars. Not an easy mag to put a pin in though.
CZ makes 10 round magazines for these. If you buy one of these guns new in a magazine ban state, they will come with one from the factory. They’re not pinned. They have a plastic block that makes up the bottom inch or so of the mag. They are ugly, but they work fine.
Is a CZ75D compact drop safe with a loaded chamber and the hammer in the forward position??
The hammer naturally rests (decocked) in a half-cocked position. From here, the hammer is prevented from going forward into the firing pin and the gun is in its double-action mode.
Both my 75D and P01 have firing pin blocks that prevent it from hitting the primer. I consider both drop-safe with a loaded chamber.
I would not manually lower the hammer to the fully-forward position with a round in the chamber. If you use the decocking lever, you'll never put the hammer there without pulling the trigger.
I'll try to do a quick video tonight comparing the 75D to a CZ83.
I just bought my first handgun, and its a cz 75 compact. Very excited to see how well I shoot with it. Still waiting for it to come in. Prefer no rail because if I need a flashlight (and not a gun) Id rather have it as a separate tool. If I was police or military, I would want a rail mounted light. Also, less bulk when carrying.
Congrats!
How do you like your CZ Compact steel frame. I pick mine up in a few days.
If I use a snap cap while dry fire will it save the firing pin?
The roll pin that retains the firing pin is the only component that I've heard can become worn by dry fire. Snap caps should extend its life because they slow the firing pin down before it impacts the retaining pin.
I like the fact that you measured the weight in gramms instead of those annoying ounces which are 31.13738936252794+E27 gramms each, or so
Are the slides and barrels interchangeable
Barrels are interchangeable. Slides are slightly different in the sights, PCR has the chamber loaded indicator, and P-01 has longer rails. Slides will function on each lower but won't match up cosmetically.
Very Good Video on the CZ 75 Pistols! Wondering what was the cost of all of the parts for your CZ P-01. And, can you recommend a Holster Manufacturer that accommodates an accessory light on the rail? I Like these CZ'a! Thumbs Up!
The parts weren't cheap. I did the installation myself and it was around half-again the price of the gun. Honestly, it's not necessary to have a good gun.
I'm currently using the PHLster Floodlight TLR-1 for carrying the P01. It's a pretty good holster, but pretty big.
Check out JM Custom Kydex if you're looking for something more form-fit.
My PCR came with two 15 round double stack magazines
Got to admit mine is labeled 75d compact. It has a rail. I can’t find any difference between it and the p01. it’s perplexed me since I started seeing the p01 on the shelves. Seems maybe at some point they just relabeled the gun.
They don't seem to be very consistent in their marking. I've seen one that's a railed 75D that had a steel frame as well, as opposed to the aluminum framed P01. Oh well. They're great guns regardless.
Very helpful thank you. You said you did some work to them…I keep being recommended to Cajun Gun Works. Did you get parts from them? Did upgrade yourself? I live in California and so I am limited with choices. After much research, I went with the PCR and the 75B. What should I replace/upgrade? I have read they are pretty good out of the box!
I mention a bunch of the parts I swapped out in the video. I did all the work myself. Not easy like swapping parts in a Glock, but no hand fitting required, so much easier than something like a 1911.
My PCR has the fewest upgrades, and the P-01 has a pretty extensive list. If you're going to carry, I'd focus on keeping reliability high and not changing anything that changes too much of how hard or fast the firing pin hits the primer. CGW's website is a good place to check for that info.
Factory mag for my CZ75 D PCR HOLDS 15 RDS
what grips are those on the p01?
Vz grips, the frag pattern.
I just wish they would change the stock sights. They are pretty much unusable for me if it is even slightly dimly lit. I can still use crappy Glock stock sights when dimly lit.
Hello. I bought a CZ75 Compact and a CZ75 P-01. Both have the plastic guide rod. It is getting pretty marred up and does not appear to be of good quality. I've ordered two SS guide rods for these fine guns and am wondering if I made the right move... Your opinion would be appreciated.
Both of mine have steel guide rods I installed. Both guns have over 1000 rounds and neither show any sign of early frame wear. I'd make sure you run at least a stock (or slightly heavier) recoil spring to slow down the slide before appropriately before it gets to the back of its travel. I run stock weight in both of mine and regularly shoot Winchester 124gr NATO at the range.
@@rjg02005 Yes, those NATO rounds are a little hot. I love 124 gr but am having a problem finding them. Hate to bug ya, but where did you find recoil springs for the CZs ? Thanks my man....
@@chrissourp6807 check out Cajun Gun Works.
@@rjg02005 Will do ! Thanks again ! ( I love these freekin CZs ! )
So strange. My pcr came with 15 rounders. Guess they changed the design a bit recently
A few people have said the newer CZs ship with MecGars from the factory. It might have a blue follower or say "made in Italy." IMO, the mecgar mags, both 14 and 15rd ones, are superior to the CZ produced ones.
@@rjg02005 they do actually, just as you described them. So really they're mec-gar mags
Mine too
Has the Trigger return spring ever broke?
I've never experienced one breaking myself, but it's probably a good idea to change them every few thousand rounds (I have no clue what CZ recommends). It's not hard to replace, but it's a more involved job than replacing springs in something like a Glock.
@@rjg02005 Ya I have the Reduced power TRS from Cajun, & the firing pin roll pin, also the Crome trigger pin, I’ve only installed the Firing pin roll pin..
Odd. Every review I’ve seen says the CZ 75 PCR comes with 14 rd mags but mine came with two 15 rd. Anyone else get that too?
I'm pretty sure the newer MecGar 15rd mags are supplied with the newer guns. The 14rd mag shown came with my Compact D when I puchased it used a long time ago. The P-01 came with CZ brand 10-rd mags. I'm curious as well to any other people's experience.
@@rjg02005 makes sense. Thanks for the reply.
Yes they always say 14+1 for some reason but they hold 15. Idk why they do that. Happy surprise? Haha
Yup! New batch of CZs come with 2 15 rounds magazines!!! I got one of those 😎 And by the way 14 and 16 and 18 rounds mags work just fine in it,I tried them all! That PCR D it’s an awesome and GORGEOUS piece man! Congrats ✌️😎
@@rjg02005 My PCR came with the two Mecgar 15 round mags also.
Did enjoy the vid... Did you say which was softer shooting? PCR or the P01? Thanks for the time.
They both shoot very well. If i had to pick one, the p01 is probably a hair softer. If you hang a light on the rail, the P01 is a clear winner in regards to muzzle flip. Ergos on both, especially the tang, make shooting quite comfortable on both.
@@rjg02005 Thank you sir for the reply!
Got an unanswered question ive had for some time. Maybe u can help me out. I own a 75D compact marked as such but its not a pcr. It has the full length dust cover. Why is it labeled 75D compact and not P01? Older model? European designation?
I'm not sure the difference between what you mentioned and the P01, unless yours has a steel frame. CZ is seemingly inconsistent with their markings on these pistols.
@@rjg02005 nope same aluminum alloy🤷
75D is PCR (Police Czech Republic)
D stands for Decocker
It’s exactly the same gun
@@ACDandMe yes the D means decocker. No it is not a pcr model. PCR doesnt have full length dust cover and rail. P01 model has dust cover and rail like mine. Mine is not marked P01. Just 75D compact
@@mannytut1378 CZ is really random sometimes as far as slide markings. It depends on where they planned to sell them, but then they go where they are needed. Manufacturing and shipping may not communicate well.
God, that silver screw on the P-01 grip is driving me nuts.
Haha! I did that on purpose because of the silver trigger, guide rod, and firing pin retaining roll pin.
Yup
I just replaced the rear sight on my PCR with a red dot, so I can hit the side of a barn without having to be inside it. It is now a bit less perfect for concealed carry, but if I ever need to draw it in anger, at least I can hit something with it. Still feels perfect in my hand, even with an extra ounce or two on top. Why an aluminum frame? Because plastic guns should be water pistols.
Where did you find the orange and black grips?
Amazon. "Cool grips - royal color". About 1/2 as expensive as the VZ. They don't feel quite as good as the VZs (p-01) but that's subjective and not a deal breaker for me.
I see some CZ75 d pcr with a shiny trigger. Hmmmmm?
Is there a water fall behind you!?
A furnace, actually; made worse by a junky microphone.
I have a 75D compact aluminum frame with rails, looks exactly like your p-01, I can't see the difference between the models.
CZ hasn't been consistent with their naming.
For example: My 75D Compact is sometimes marked as "PCR" and my P-01 is sometimes marked as "75D Compact."
There are also compact railed frames in steel, non-railed compact frames in DA/SA, and aluminum railed frames with the omega trigger... and I'm sure a few other permutations. I've had positive experiences with all of the CZs I've used.
Like the guns,the red bandana and the cat.have the same stuff& some fine guns but no CZ...yet.soon to change.like pcr but a light laser would be nice..ill figure it out..Holster suggestions?? OWB &IWB ..In that order.nignt signts& most likely bogies.👍& sub.take care.Thx
I like your cat
6:48 why would you use your knuckle!!?? "you might get a bloody knuckle". wft? Damn dude. Just use your mag to push it... or ANY other part of your hand that doesn't have the thinnest skin.
Suwhoop!!!! Jp nice video 😝
Why would you ever put a beautiful piece like the CZ in a damn plastic holster & scratch the hell out of it ? I can see using it on the Glock cuz they're ugly as hell to begin with. Come on man, leather is the only way to go.
Haha. Yeah, I hear you. Both are beautiful guns, even with a bit of wear.
The 75 compact D was bought used and in okay condition, so I wasn't too worried about messing up the looks. I brought the P01 to a class back in '16 and it got its first scratch. It was a relief. Now they're both carried and shot as often as I can.
It's just a tool lol. I don't get people who hate scratches on a gun just saying lol.
Agree with both of you. Only leather, but it is a tool, holsters ware and scratches are okay. Gun maintenance is more important.
If you're worried about how your gun looks you're doing it wrong
I just bought a 75D and the magazines are 15s…
Congrats on the new blaster! Good to hear the 15s are shipping to the states that can still have them.
Why the grahms? Are we talking about pistols or snacks?
Oz is a terrible ststem to measure relatively small differences in weight.
Might wanna try "starboard side" rather than "passenger side". Just sayin'
I used to row, so I mess up port and starboard all the time. Probably something to do with always looking aft. That said, I'll try to use terminology that's more universal in the future.
@@rjg02005 no offense. I enjoy your podcasts
So are we just going to ignore that this dude has a chinchilla..?
2.
Lol
Hello to CZ-CAT-01 LOL
You did. not review the P-01. You only reviewed the 75D Compact WTF?
Just trying to compare and contrast the two guns. There are a bunch of good reviews out there on the P-01 already.
🇮🇱👍❤️👌💋🇮🇱
The chinchilla…🤣
CZ 75 D PCR HAS REALLY BAD SIGHTS. CZ SHOULD PUT DECENT SIGHTS FROM THE FACTORY....CHEAP BS
I hate Glock.
i bet hes got a boyfriend this one, armed lgbtq, cant get anymore dangerous than that, hes a fairy
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