Imagine Jesus gazing into the eyes of those who tortured him, the ones who drove the nails into his body and him knowing " this blood shed, i do for you too". It's quite powerful to think about
Wow that is very humbling. Just that alone is beyond anything I feel we could do. And that's only the tiniest fraction... just think about it, all the sinners Jesus did it for hate the truth / Him.
And what I mean by that is: Unbelievers tend to hate hearing the truth of the gospel more than anything else. And he's the ones he did it for, so that they may be saved.
@@lightbeforethetunnel lmfao it's fake fool. It never happened and it's been 2000 years of even more nothing happening. What gives you the arrogance to claim to know the truth when you have no idea if it's real or not? It's the same with every religion. It's about what YOU want to practice and put YOUR faith into that matters. To call it the truth and condemning others makes you worse than anything else in the world and a fire is burning in eternity for your soul if there is one almost assuredly.
God cant be around sin, not only did his son Jesus take on Sin, he took on EVERY SIN!!! And for that moment, Jesus, who was one with his father, never being apart from his father.. felt completely distant and separated from him 💔
Jesus was referring to psalms 22 it starts with my god why has thou forsaken me and it ends with he has done it referring to Jesus saying it is finished the whole verse was referring to Jesus god is so amazing
Yup i cannot stand the unbiblical teaching that God seperated from Christ for a moment because He couldnt look on our sin. Jesus quotes psalm 22 a psalm which even states I never hid my face from you. The fact that Jesus is still saying go read this psalm , it is me who it is about is amazing to me.
I 💯 understand why Jesus cried these words. To be the son of God and endure the worst suffering imaginable, I do not need an explanation. I feel the same every day of my life. Faithful, yet tortured. Albeit, I will still keep my faith as Jesus did.
@@mynameisgus1 Look up the Trinity, it can be hard to grasp but there are scriptures that point to a Tri (three) Unity (as one) God the father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit They are co-equal and co-eternal.
That’s why we need to pray and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom whenever we read the bible. Revelation comes and it overcomes what human understanding can’t comprehend
Actually Jesus was not God Almighty! The Father. Why would he call out to the Father if he was the Father? Why would he pray to the Father! Why would he say the Father is greater than he? Why would he say it is the Father who sent me? The trinity is a fake doctrine concocted in the 3rd century by philosopher Tertullian who claimed to be a Church Father but no record ever existed of that! He left theChurch and began practicing Montanism which the Church considered a heretic teaching. The Church Fathers refused to repeal his trinity doctrine because it would make them look incompetent when they said the Church doctrines come only from the Holy Spirit. Tertullian was neither holy or a true follower of Christian faith yet somehow convinced the Church Fathers to adopt his Trinitarian theory! The Church was the center of influence at the time and philosophers were eager to get involved in Church teachings in order to become influential and recognized. Many tried. Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo both were able to influence Church doctrine by introducing non scriptural theories which the Church Fathers adopted as doctrine!
The suffering that characterizes individual human life is so intense that even if God himself undergoes it, it will test his faith to the point that he will not believe in his own existence.
@@fifthfreedom2786 Yes, originally from Slavoj Zizek to Peterson in their debate, probably around the topic of suffering. Peterson later said of their whole debate the one thing that stood out to him, Zizek said, Of course we are allowed to complain about suffering for even Jesus had his doubts while on the cross and he was the son of God. Then Peterson put it in his own words.
John 10:16-18 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life-only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
WE CAN NEVER DIMINISH THE SUFFERING JESUS WENT THROUGH FOR US. He was forsaken in this moment and this moment only because he had taken on all the sin in the world and become sin. We deserve to be forsaken therefore the only just thing god could do to reconcile man with god is forsake his only son in our place. Attempting to diminish or lessen the suffering that Jesus truthfully took on our behalf is a dangerous thing. We cannot lose sight that he was given the punishment WE deserve therefore it is only logical to conclude that God did actually forsaken him in this moment. Complete disconnection with the father at this moment was the only justifiable punishment for what sin brings. And knowing that is a freeing experience and brings a whole new meaning for what God himself did for those who don't deserve it. At times it is incomprehensible. Nonetheless we cannot deny that he was forsaken because otherwise we have no hope of not being forsaken.
Jesus cried out to the Father because Holy Spirit that protected him was removed in order for his death to occur! Jesus confirmed that his impending death was equal to the death of all mankind ! Jesus died the exact same way Adam died! He had to in order for his death to be equal to the death of Adam! Otherwise his death would not have been equal to Adam’s and would not have sufficiently covered the sins of mankind!
Suffering for thee days and coming back from the dead {{ compared }} to the suffering of Prometheus forced to have his belly eaten by birds 🦅 🙄 or the suffering of several torture’s such as the brazen bull 😒👉 hell 👈😉 the suffering of burning alive for eternity for not kissing god’s @$$ 🔥😡🔥 such a “”loving”” god 🔥🥰🔥
What is suffering if you know right after you will be in heaven. This isn’t suffering, suffering is a 8 year old girl getting decapitated slowly crying for help. Your Jesus doesn’t exist
Why did God create sin in the first place? Why was his solution to the problem of sin to send himself so people could sacrifice him to himself? More importantly, how many thousands of year have to go by before people understand that no one is coming back?
If he was forsaken how did he conquer death, and come back 3 days later resurrected. He was not forsaken not once the scripture tells you that Jesus had complete trust in God the father and never faltered from it . Jesus knew he was going to die on the cross he tells his disciples over and over again yet they do not believe him. The translation from Hebrew to greek got messed up. I truly believe that the truth is not that he was forsaken if that were true Jesus sacrifice was for nothing but abandonment.
He said that because in jewish teaching if you want to pray but are sick or cant recite the hole prayer you should say the first fews words of your prayer outloud and continue the rest in your mind and heart and your prayer will be accepted
When Jesus said , "my god my god ,why have you forsaken me ,he knew that, us his children just like Jesus his child asked, we do ,why have you forsaken us he did not that is why he sent down his heart his son to die .jesus never asked his father he asked us to reflect .that is sacrifice 🙏 that is self reflection ❤️
I recently watched the passion of christ. When God gave his last moment he mentioned the word "forsaken" which brought me to figure out what he was actually meaning. But as farther I go into details the whole explanation just brings me right back to the same question. I'm so sorry but everyone who tried to explain it or is explaining it just seems like they try to give the spot light to how Jesus saved us. (I personally think that is real love) But the actual question remains on why did he mentioned that to his father? I saw people mentioned psalm 22 where he also mentioned that word "forsaken" Yet I saw in the movie "passion of christ" that Jesus went on his own and also cried out to his Father telling him why have you left me alone. It's been a long time since I've saw the movie but since I'm reading the Bible I just wanted a clear path a straight answer no going around the bush with the answer yet I don't think anyone really knows the answer they just assumed. I hope someone can correct me because I'm trying to get in the correct road to heaven if my God the father spirit and Jesus christ has me written on there list. I also want to apologize to my father to why I have that question but I hope someone can bring me to the light
@@King-vf5pgin heaven, It is written "So then after the lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat at the right hand of God." -Mark 16:19
@@King-vf5pg "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" -2 Peter 3:9 Try and be patient and Love one another as Jesus Loved us. - John 13:34
🧩Psalms 22:1-31 (KJV) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them. They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly. Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns. I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee. Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel. For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard. My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him. The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations. All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Jeremiah 16:10-1 10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the Lord pronounced all this great evil against us? or what is our iniquity? or what is our sin that we have committed against the Lord our God? 11 Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the Lord, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;
In my opinion, Christ human side cried in pain and felt forsaken for a moment due to the overwhelming punishment, but once it was done , he said, it is finished, that means he paid all our sins with his painful sacrifice. He paid our ransom to the devil who is the ruler of the world, and who believes that this ransom was paid by his sacrifice , will be free to go to Jesus Kingdom .
@@natalieg.1230 because the Devil owns us . That’s why Christ came to save us . He said the world lies in Evil, so the devil owns this world , Jesus said my kingdom is not here . Fulfilling the devils’s law , yahweh’s impossible law) the devil has no authority over Christ. The sacrifice of Christ paid our sins to the Devil. Devil wants death and sacrifice for our sins. That’s why satanists and spiritual sects love sacrifices. But once Christ rose from death he overthroned the Devil by conquering death and who believes in his sacrifice to save us , will go ho His kingdom. Just follow Christ words , the bible is not well interpreted bu the christian establishment. The OT mixes the Devil with God and the book of revelations is false . Follow the perfect Jesus teaching and worlds and you will find peace and love
he yelled out god why have you forsaken me.... translation: god what have you made me do and now you're nowhere to be found. aka: why have you turned your back and left at this horrific time. why did he say that, because he felt screwed over. why did he feel screwed over? because God was no where to be found! why did god disappear at this point? God only knows.
God disappeared and forsook him at this moment and this moment only because he had taken on every sin that man had committed. God cannot look at or be around sin so for this instance Jesus was forsaken in our place. We deserve to be forsaken but God himself sent his only son to die for us so that we will NEVER BE FORSAKEN. We can never and should never diminish the suffering that Christ went through on our behalf and there is no other explanation than that. He was forsaken just for a moment in our place so that all may be redeemed freely with the gift of life. It is beautiful and we should never limit the suffering and love God preformed in that way for us because he got what WE deserve
@@inxvii well obviously, if you have any common sense, you would be able to infer that I agree with that. if he was God and did not intend for that to happen then it wouldn't have happened.
He's not a god, he is God. We'll pray for your soul. It's easy to dismiss your God when you're alive and breathing but one day you'll meet him face to face and all the excuses in the world won't save you from eternal damnation.
@@dixielandcrew7 buahahaaaaaaa that's the funniest statement ive ever heard. And dumb too 😇 so he is not god, but he is god? Are you confusing your brain to your arse, lady?
The question is did you ever see the God your talking to? Or do you even know him? Only jesus christ knew whos God the father. And without jesus your nothing. You cant come to the God the father without jesus. Because jesus is the only way. May God bless you.
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” (“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”) correctly appears in the Aramaic manuscripts as, “Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani” (“My God, My God, for this is my purpose[alt. was spared] [alt. this was my destiny.]”) According to another of Lamsa's books "Idioms of the Bible Explained" Matthew could not have supplied the "translation" supplied above, for it does not correctly render the ARAMAIC meaning, which is ..."My God, My God, for this I was kept." Or to use more familiar Eastern terminology..."my destiny!" You're welcome
I thought Jesus is GOD but just in human form? I'm new to this and this confuses me, I pray to GOD then I feel bad thinking I didn't give the same praise to Jesus and then I say to myself it's the same thing when I'm not sure if that's even correct! ..🤯 ✞
Read Psalm 22. Now... answer these questions: (1) When did the Psalms get numbered? (2) When were lines and verses in any Scripture of the Bible numbered? (3) How did people know what particular Psalm or Book of Scripture you were talking about BEFORE numbers were given? And THERE'S your answer for why Jesus said ''My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?'' He was NOT in despair. He was quoting... in order to silence those who dared to ask why he didn't take himself down from the cross.
3 IN 1 FATHER , SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON DOWN TO US, AS MAN , MAQN JESUS IN THYE FORM OF MAN , HE HAD EVERY FEELING WE HAVE , IN THE GARDEEN JUST BEFORE THEY TOOK HIM , SHOWED FEAR , INT E TEMPLE ,,, HE SHOWED ANGER THE ONE THING DIFFERENT WAS HE WAS PURE FROM SIN , UN LIKE ME AND YOU GOD SENT HIM TO TAKE AWAY OUR SINS JESUS SAID WHEN YOU LOOK ON ME YOU SEE THE FATHER, HE IS GOD , AND THE SON , AND HOLY SPIRIT BUT ON THE CROSS , HE BACAME ,,, MAN , HE FELT HIS LIFE EBING AWAY FOR THAT SPLIT SECOND HE WAS MAN , FULL OF DOUBT , HE FELT ABBANDOND, MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME , WHAT POWER FULL WORDS , HAVNT WE MAN , WOMEN FELT LIKE THAT IN TIMES OF TROUBLE , I KNOW I HAVE , I CAN NEVER REPAY YOU LORD FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR ME , THROUGH MY SINS I CAUSED YOUR PAIN , FORGIVE ME , LORD AMEN
thank GOD i am not a christian, only a devil would believe jesus was cursed and a sacrifice for ur sins, the god can forgive us if he wants, he is all powerful
This entire explanation is not logical unless god sacrificed Jesus as an insurance policy against gods future transgressions against man. People continue to sin to this day without consequence. The way Christian’s can’t explain what the sacrifice actually meant is proof the pint of his death is broadly misunderstood.
@Bill Boyd: People continue to sin because sin has entered the world. Jesus paying the price is not an automatic ticket for you to continue to sin. You still have to follow his teachings.
Jesus demonstrated the situation in hell. God will not answer cries in hell. It will be darkness. People in hell cry out to God why you not helping me. But he will not rescue them because of their sins.
You have to understand Jesus took on the sin of this world ...& Because sin is not with GOD in any way , Jesus felt like he was without GOD while taking on the sins of man ...the bible says the wages of sin is death ..so because Jesus death was for our sins ...he knew that GOD was with him but now that he had sin on him he knew the father couldn't be there like previously while be died .
It astonishes me to see people of reason like you take such explanation for granted. Can't u see that those who brought these interpretation did nothing but tranqulizing their soul and escaping from the horrible scenery in which their savior is in REAL suffer. Can't u really see that he was in trouble and he was supplicating to GOD. I hope u can SEE that one day 🤲🤲
Good video. Just a thought: Never did Christ call the Father 'his God' or 'my God' as Jesus was God. Since the Bible never states specifically that the Father did in fact turn away from Jesus we must be mindful of this fact. I believe such an adherance causes us as Christians to believe that God will turn his face from us. Jesus was fulfilling passover, on passover and I believe all of heaven was looking on in great anticipation as the Son of Man, God in the flesh, Jesus, was fully reinstating mankind to a pre fall condition. That in my estimation was more of a victory than the resurrection itself. IT IS FINISHED. The three most powerful words ever uttered for Jesus was saying essentially, Satan you are finished.
Millions of people throughout history have suffered.. some for the sins of others.. but we dont go and idol worship them, do we? If animal sacrifice was already forbiddwn.. and if Isaac was replaced by a goat.. why would the Lord go to the pagan custom of human sacrifice ?
All of psalm 22 is about Jesus not David when Jesus said that , the sun shone again and He said it is finished The Father was right there and heard His prayer and ended the torment of the Son at the words of Jesus. I encourage all to read the entire psalm with this in mind.
No it's a matter of whether or not you believe Jesus was a liar. He had to be forsaken by God because that is the only rightful and just punishment of those in sin. He took on our sin and was forsaken by God for just a moment. This is a fundamental part of Jesus' suffering and the punishment he took for us in our place. I am unsure what you believe but I know for a fact that Jesus said what he meant and meant what he said and In no way could I ever diminish the suffering and pain Jesus went through on our behalf.
What I understand is that God turned his back on Jesus cuz God hate sins yet he still can’t bear to watch his son die for our sins According to passion of Christ during Jesus’s last days he cried and said God why have you left me all alone 😢 That touched me That’s to show you our God hate sins that he even have to abandon his son Jesus Christ
Got questions ministries, it's quite obvious that you don't know the Bible. Because the Bible makes Jesus being Forsaken by God very clear. Jesus wasn't quoting Ps 22. Ps 22 was a prophecy about Jesus. The people couldn't understand what Jesus said, they thought He was calling for Elijah. Matthew thought Jesus was speaking Hebrew and Mark thought Jesus was speaking Aramaic. Forsaken means Jesus died Spiritually. Which is Spiritual death.
I have often wondered the same. MAYBE because in that moment Jesus had taken on all the sins of the world so God had to distance Himself (God cannot tolerate any sin). This must have been so overwhelming because during His life, Jesus had been sinless and so had always been one with God. But there on the cross - with the weight of the world's sins on His shoulders - He was spiritually removed from His Father and must have felt so abandoned. That is just my understanding though and I am still striving to learn so much more and deepen my knowledge. I don't know if that helps but I just wanted to share my thoughts.... God bless you. ✝️
You clearly don't understand the concept of Trinity. Jesus (The Son) is God but also The Father is God, and so is the Holy Spirit. They are all fully God but there is only one God not three Gods. That's because God is a multi-dimensional super being that can never be fully understood by mortal humans. There is nothing illogical with Jesus (God the Son) saying "My God" because The Father is also God. Co-equal and co-eternal with the Son and the Holy Spirit.
This is where i get confused, if Jesus was also God, equally with the Father and Holy Spirit, then why does He say “O God” instead of Father. Because when i look at God, i think of the God head meaning The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, praying to God to me means praying to all three because all three are equally God. So if Jesus, representing The Son in the God head, said “O God why have you forsaken me” then wouldn’t He be saying He has forsaken Himself? Please give me clarification, i need to understand better. God Bless!
@@Gaminglife-sf1oz He never said He was God, but He is God based off scripture and the things He did. “God” is really a God Head of Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All three are God co-equally. That’s why i’m at some point of confusion. I’m not confused anymore tho. God bless!
God does not look onto sin . God is not the creator of sin . God loves us so much that he chose to limit his abilities when creating us in order to give us free will . He created us with free will so that we could have the capacity for love and understanding of Him authentically ... When we created sin due to having free will , the world became full of evil ... We began to question God and His love for us because of all of the evil in the world ... He was so hurt by the questioning and was so desperate for our love that he gifted us with Himself in human flesh ... Capable of feeling everything a normal human could feel . This human was called Yeshua (Jesus) . Jesus , the son of God , lived a life free of sin and was Christ as man who walked the Earth spreading love and gospel . God loved us so much that He had His son take on the consequences of every sin in the world and was crucified on a cross for claiming to be King . Jesus asked God why did He forsake him . God rejected Jesus on the cross because he was full of sin . OUR SIN . God knowingly rejected his ONLY and PERFECT Son just to show us that he loves us and will forgive us . God is not all good . But God IS ALL LOVING ... And I will live by this sacrifice knowing that God gave his only son for us .
I don't believe you answered your own question. For those of you that believe that the Trinity is just one being again this doesn't make sense. When people talk about the Trinity just being one existence, why did the scriptures tell us that Jesus will be sitting at the right hand of his father? I understand that Jesus is the spirit of God in the flesh. God being one in the trinity has people believe, does not make any sense whatsoever when the son of God would cry out, why have you forsaken me. ??????? It seems to me that Jesus was wanting the pain and suffering to go away. The humiliation that he had gone through, especially in the end, maybe he was thinking that he should have been delivered quicker to the grave.
@SMUG , as far as Bible is concerned, he never succumbed in his faith which the satan already tested and failed. So the question of him doubting doesn't arise.
Yeah, I read it from some source a long time ago tho I forgot who was the betrayer. Based on this story his crucifixion doesn't look like a sacrifice for our sins. So many made-up stories smh. Hope the ones that made those sophistries burn in the 8th hell, the newest created hell special for them, seriously I am mad...
@@maverickmedia5257 Jordan Peterson goes deep into Christianity in many videos. I will be back with more details because it is actually really good. Definitely worth it to follow him.
God did not forsake him, he was just under the belief he was. I think it is a message that human suffering is so intense and discomforting that even the son of god himself could not bear to hold, believing that he was abandoned. I think it’s very powerful to christians struggling with their faith to know that for a second even jesus felt he was abandoned by god even though he knew he would rise again.
@@sowilution What's wrong with the translation, then? the earliest versions of the original Greek and Aramaic still have this in the same phrasing, to my knowledge. What is the proper translation?
Got questions, the Bible tells us what Forsaken means, why don't you read and believe the Bible instead of misleading people. The people didn't understand what Jesus meant by My God why have you forsaken Me, they thought Jesus was calling for Elijah. Matthew thought Jesus was speaking Hebrew and Mark thought Jesus was speaking Aramaic. You should stop putting videos on RUclips until you find out what the Bible teaches.
I do not believe this is accurate translation see Jesus spoke Aramaic ancient Hebrew. The translation of forsaken comes from a Greek translation and word. What Jesus was really saying was My God my God, for this I was kept. Remeber on the mountain of olives Jesus swears blood and asked his disciples to prey with him. Jesus was dying in the mountain from baring the sin of man. Jesus preyed to the father that he would stay the cup of wrath he was about to drink. That is what he said in the cross that is what he was referring to. My death here in this cross is what your spared me for My God My God for why have you spared me? For this is why you have spared me.
If Jesus is part of the trinity.. how can he suffer, be surprised by ut or even be forsaken by hinself. This just proves jesus was a false prophet and just a man and the Lord punished him by death as is the punishment fit for false prophets.
He was saying like this because the person on the cross not Jesus Pease be ubon him. He told his people that when the time come they will search for him and they will not find him. And if he was ready to sacrifice for your sins why would he says that words which refer to that he didn't want to be crucified. It was not him. Read Qur’an and you will get the story.
The crucifixion of Jesus was witnessed by perhaps hundreds of people's eyes, even the first century historians also wrote about this crucifixion. Then who can guarantee 700 years later Muhammad said it was not Jesus who was crucified while Muhammad did not witness the crucifixion? If Muhammad said that allah said it, who can guarantee that what Muhammad said was true or just Muhammad's fabrication?
@@tommytampenawas No matter how many people saw him. Because as mentioned in Qur’an there was another one like him. Allah saved his servant. And about Mohammed came after 700 years, no problem because how can we know false prophets and true prophets. By mentioning stories about past and future events. And more miracles to do. So even Jesus Pease be ubon him he didn't see Adam or Abraham, so why we must believe in him, because he is prophet and he talks the truth the same as Mohammed and others. And if you check Bible you will see many and many verses in Bible when jesus mentioned that God greater than him, and his and our father. And he mentioned his example like example of Prophet Johna, check it in Bible and you will understand about what I'm talking about. Jonah didn't die three times, despite his people they thought he was died when they thrown him in the sea, but he was alive. So Jesus Pease be ubon him said his example like Jonah in Bible.
Jesus said that because God mechanically physically turned his back at moment. ======= The copyrights are out for 1984 and mac and their antiquated . ==== What about the next new copyright that's antiquated ? ==== Can you afford all those antiquities ? ; & it is worse than that with the Bible revisionist. ====== Have a great day Comrade , my condolences to Shakespeare's sonnets. ===== 👋😎💨 Bryan
Your explanation doesn't make sense,you are rationalizing and picking parts of the Bible to justify your beliefs but not speaking facts to exactly why He said "my God, My God why have thou forsaken me." I'm a firm believer in Christ but I am not a Christian for this very reason. I get annoyed at Christians always trying to give answers they don't know because they feel it Will question their faith. Another example when Jesus called the Canaanite women a dog in Matthew 15:21 28 So many so-called Christians on RUclips tried to rationalize this saying that he didn't call the woman a dog he called her a little dog or he called her a lost puppy. At the end of the day he called her a freaking dog. This is what turns people off. Or they to justify that him calling the woman a dog was acceptable because her people on the Canaanites were very bad people when it was clearly a derogatory and races remark demonstrated to teach his disciples compassion because they were racist against anyone that wasn't a Jew. I said it is what it is. Look you get the point, just be honest and tell the truth." I don't know" stop trying to always make up answers.
have a Jewish friend who claims that "sabachthani" does not mean "forsaken." Can you clarify? Answer: Language, words, and translations can be a bit tricky. To claim that sabachthani does not mean forsaken is either right or wrong, depending on context. Sabachthani generally means to have been abandoned or left behind, but it means to have been abandoned for a purpose or reason. When we generally think of “forsaken,” we think of an uncaring abandonment. The Aramaic word for being abandoned without care or because of being unwanted would be taatani. The Aramaic for being abandoned because of being forgotten would be nashatani. In the context of Jesus on the cross, it is clearly a reference to being abandoned, but it does not imply that Jesus felt his Father carelessly abandoned him. In some ancient cultures, in order to pass from boyhood to manhood, the young male would have to spend the night alone in the wilderness. Alone and in the dark, the young male might wonder, “Why did my father leave me in this place?” But the young male knows there is a purpose to being there and that his father knows what he is doing and is doing so with love.
@Huss Huss: No it didn't proof he was ' just a prophet', did you listen to the video commentary? You guys like to take or cut out one tinny part of the scriptures to suit your false narratives. What about John 10:30, John 3:16, John 1:1, Matthew 1:23, Mathew 8:29, Matthew 14:22-33 essentially the whole of John, Matthew, Mark and Luke that was about exhibition of Jesus's divinity.
You clearly don't understand the concept of Trinity. Jesus (The Son) is God but also The Father is God, and so is the Holy Spirit. They are all fully God but there is only one God not three Gods. That's because God is a multi-dimensional super being that can never be fully understood by mortal humans. There is nothing illogical with Jesus (God the Son) saying "My God" because The Father is also God. Co-equal and co-eternal with the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Who Killed me My CATHOLIC GOD! I have no Friends GOD I claimed to be your Son and I see a lot pictures of Eyesus Kristus in Ethiopia I have no Wife and I am a Uncle and I will not let The Earth 🌍 End without A Anbessa or Lion 🦁 in Ethiopia and Democracy and a Bear 🐻 and Eagle 🦅 in The United States of America 🇺🇸 and and Computers 💻 used by only some one ☝🏾 who knows how to fix and even to use it for Education or Work and I try but Eduction of the Bible and I Love Guitar 🎸 GOD!
Allahi! Allahi! Not Eli! Eli! Assyrian and Coptic Christian's word for God in Arabic/Aramaic is Allah. They are not Muslim. Allah = God Allahi = My God Walahi = I swear to God. Look up the scene from _Passion of the Christ_ He says, "Allahi"
i cannot understand that concept of taking sin, he took all of the sins, now he is a sin, god hates sin, etc... no sense... or is it an attempt to justify the fact that god allowed his son to be tortured?
First of all I start my words by saying as Jesus said( peace be upon you) see John 20:21 and as Muslims do when they greetings each others. If you see Bible of nowadays, in the beginning, we will find that Genesis say there is only one God. Despite the fact in the introduction you will find Christian scholars want people to believe in trinity. If you go and ask people why you celebrate the birthday of Jesus Pease be ubon him in winter, ask them where is mentioned in Bible he was born in winter, in fact he was born according to Qur’an in summer, and Bible say this as well. And you can check it easily. If you go to Matthew chapter 12:38,you will find Jesus Pease be ubon him told them that his example like Jonah. And Jonah people they thought he was dead when they thrown him in the sea, but he was not and he was life three times as Jesus Pease be ubon him. If you go to John 7:6,He told his people that his time hasn't come yet. And the answer easy from Islam because he will come in the end of this world to Kill anticrist, and save Humanity. Just think about deeply *. If you see John 7:36,Jesus Pease be ubon him said (I'm going to him who sent me, you will seek me and you will not find me, where I am you cannot come) it is clear when they want to Kill him he will ascend, because they will seek for him and no place on the earth to find him. He is as Qur’an says God (Allah praise be to him) lift him up. And I can prove from Bible he is not the one who was on the cross, because Jesus Pease be ubon him he knew that he gonna crucified and he told his people, and as Christians believe he done this to remove the sins, but it was not correct, check Matthew 27:46,the person on the cross was crying God why you forsaken me! So if Jesus was ready to sacrifice by Himself for you, why he would say such words?! Like someone disappointed by his God, Ask yourself, that means it was not him on the cross. Now I will prove you from Bible That there is Prophet has to come, and this Prophet is Mohammed peace be upon him, go to John 16:7,8,9,10,till 20,you can see clearly he was referring to someone has to come, some Christians people they think he was talking about holy spirit but this is not Correct, because if he was talking about holy spirit has to come that means he has no holy spirit inside him at that moment. Or he was fare away from holy spirit because he mentioned that if I don't go away, he will not come, and I will prove here in this context the spirit of truth means Prophet, If you see the book of revelation 4:6 (The seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth) so if you ask Christians they will say we have only one holy spirit, but according to Bible everything can be holy spirit Prophet also. If you check John 4:1,2,it is meant false prophets equal to false spirits and and Good prophets refers to Spirits of truth. So Jesus Pease be ubon him said something but people today say something else to convince their desires. See John 6:14,Jesus Pease be ubon him gave them an example about the leftover of the food, and people said (he is the Prophet who is to come) and it is compatible with Islam as it has the final book and last prophet. And I have seen many verses referring to Prophet has to come in Bible. But still Christians they don't want the truth *. If you Go and see psalm 95:3...11, you will see it mentioned the 3:God is one as Islam say , 6:and the worship like bow down and kneel before the lord as Muslims do 7:we are the people of his pasture, as Muslims say we are his servants, 7 for forty years.. This number is the same when Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him received the revelation for first time. And if you check the next 96,oh sing to the lord a new song, is referring to a new language (Arabic) because this for first time a new language for Words of God. And if you see 13,(before the lord he comes) also refers to the last Prophet (Mohammed) because all what mentioned compatible with his character. And still many signs and hints in Bible refer to Islam and last prophet Mohammed peace be upon him but I will mention only few because no space for that. And more and more but no place to mention everything about the prophesy of Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him in Bible and check also psalm 98:7,8,9. And now I will show you how Jesus Pease be ubon was Prophet not God. If check you will see that in Bible all people who were chosen by God Bible call them Sons of God and the father refers to God. Because in that old language they referred to People as sons of God and to the God as Father, now see in Bible Mark 13:32,Jesus Pease be ubon him clearly mentions that he has no knowledge. And this means he was not God only Prophet like others, representing God on Earth. See John 7:16 he said (My teaching is not mine but he who has sent me (if anyone's will is to do God'sWill) that means he was only prophet as the previous as Qur’an say. Go and see John 20:17, Jesus said to her (do not cling on me, for he I have not yest ascended to the father, but Go to my brotherS and say to them Im ascending to my father and your father, to my God and your God. And this clearly shows that he was not God, it mentioned many times such verses. But people they don't want to open their eyes and see the truth. Go to Matthew 5:17(Do not think I have come to destroy they law or the Prophets, I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Now in the end I would like to say thank you for reading. And I advise my Christians friend to read Bible carefully. And not follow what people say follow what your book says. Because all what have changed in Bible and despite many things was deleted and added by people. But still many and many verses referring that Jesus Pease be ubon he was a Prophet and he was not die on the cross. I have read Bible a lot. I didn't see any single verse Jesus Pease be ubon him says I'm God and worship me. It is only people idea to take Him as a God. Jesus Pease be ubon him he is son of Mary, he has no father, and his birth was a miracle and his life, and we have the first Prophet Adam peace be upon him have no father and no mother, so consider please. And open your mind see the truth and believe in Allah and the last spirit of the truth Mohammed. It is mentioned in Qur’an what means that Jesus Pease be ubon him will witness against people who consider him as God, because he didn't say* read Bible carefully and you you will see Islam in his correct verses. Read Qur’an and you will see all answers to your questions in Bible. GOD cannot be human, human has an end, But God has no beginning and no end. Nothing can describe him, beyond our imagination, the Creator (Allah) praise be to him. We need him we are his creation Allah doesn't need us, The most powerful the wise... I can't describe. But I remind you from verse in Bible (I'm who I'm) if you read Bible you will understand what does it mean. Islam believes in all prophets, from Adam, Noah ...Jesus And the last one is Mohammed peace be upon them all. And all books but we follow the last revelation Qur’an. All prophets they were came with one message to Worship one God (Allah),the only one Perfect. So please do not make your Prophet witness against you. Read and read Qur’an and you will understand why you are here in this land. GOD not like human needs to eat or sleep or get sick, he is the creator and he does not sleep or get tired or anything what you thing. He is we can't describe him. Praise be to him. So my Christian friends, I'm telling you I did not understand the meaning of life till I found Islam, I read everything I can read but I didn't feel like now when I'm a Muslim.when I'm a Muslim I feel this is the best Gift from God(Allah) so I advise to read about Islam from the Qur’an and hadiths not from what you see in the media or people who say we are Muslims and they don't know about Islam only name or people who use Islam as a way to control above others, so you read Qur’an and Islam and see by yourself the beauty of Islam. The religion of all prophets the religion of peace . And I finish up my word from a verse of Qur'an: Ayatul Kursi The Throne Verse (2:255) Allahu laaa ilaaha illaa huwal haiyul qai-yoom; laa taakhuzuhoo sinatunw wa laa nawm; lahoo maa fissamaawaati wa maa fil ard; man zallazee yashfa'u indahooo illaa be iznih; ya'lamu maa baina aideehim wa maa khalfahum; wa laa yuheetoona beshai 'immin 'ilmihee illa be maa shaaaa; wasi'a kursiyyuhus samaa waati wal arda wa la ya'ooduho hifzuhumaa; wa huwal aliyyul 'azeem اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاءَ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاواتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor Sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there that can intercede in His presence except as he permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His throne doth extend over the heavens and on earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, For He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). May Allah Guide you all to the way wants. Amen.
Your othman book, quran, is a book of lies and fables. Does it gives you one shred of evidence that Jesus was never crucified? How can you trust or believe a book written some 900 years after the actual event took place by those that are not even natives of the region where Jesus was persecuted?
Sorry to hear but FROM the word of God ,WHOEVER DOES NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS IS CHRIST ( messiah or savior) All go to hell. They become the enemies of God.
😂wrong translation the word Eloi or Elohim El in ancient hebrew is the name of the father 😂while judaidm called him YAHUAh The word God is not a title but a name of of an arch angel cherubim who gave adam thr fruit of knolwedge 😂😂 Erased the word god put the hebrew name jesus called his father name not god in english translation 😂😂😂
Imagine Jesus gazing into the eyes of those who tortured him, the ones who drove the nails into his body and him knowing " this blood shed, i do for you too". It's quite powerful to think about
Wow that is very humbling. Just that alone is beyond anything I feel we could do. And that's only the tiniest fraction... just think about it, all the sinners Jesus did it for hate the truth / Him.
And what I mean by that is: Unbelievers tend to hate hearing the truth of the gospel more than anything else. And he's the ones he did it for, so that they may be saved.
What you said is poetic bullshit
@@lightbeforethetunnel lmfao it's fake fool. It never happened and it's been 2000 years of even more nothing happening. What gives you the arrogance to claim to know the truth when you have no idea if it's real or not? It's the same with every religion. It's about what YOU want to practice and put YOUR faith into that matters. To call it the truth and condemning others makes you worse than anything else in the world and a fire is burning in eternity for your soul if there is one almost assuredly.
God cant be around sin, not only did his son Jesus take on Sin, he took on EVERY SIN!!! And for that moment, Jesus, who was one with his father, never being apart from his father.. felt completely distant and separated from him 💔
Exactly 💯
He's not God and not begotten son of God
Amen
@@sulaimanabubakar9521 I pray he reveals the truth to you.
The Jews say otherwise
Jesus was referring to psalms 22 it starts with my god why has thou forsaken me and it ends with he has done it referring to Jesus saying it is finished the whole verse was referring to Jesus god is so amazing
Yup i cannot stand the unbiblical teaching that God seperated from Christ for a moment because He couldnt look on our sin. Jesus quotes psalm 22 a psalm which even states I never hid my face from you. The fact that Jesus is still saying go read this psalm , it is me who it is about is amazing to me.
I 💯 understand why Jesus cried these words. To be the son of God and endure the worst suffering imaginable, I do not need an explanation. I feel the same every day of my life. Faithful, yet tortured. Albeit, I will still keep my faith as Jesus did.
That implies that Jesus could lose faith
It don’t make any sense
He was still human at the end of the day, lol.
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How can Jesus be the son of God and God at the same time?
@@mynameisgus1 Look up the Trinity, it can be hard to grasp but there are scriptures that point to a Tri (three) Unity (as one) God the father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit They are co-equal and co-eternal.
The more we read the Bible the more questions we have about what it says. Easy to read but difficult to understand it.
Absolutely
That’s why we need to pray and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom whenever we read the bible. Revelation comes and it overcomes what human understanding can’t comprehend
@@2870arvin Yes. May the Spirit of the LORD enlighten us. Amen.
The Holy Spirit teaches us all things. I’ve subscribed to your RUclips channel
Anything from God should not be difficult or confusing.
Perhaps you should read the Quran and all your questions will be clear.
Thank you for all.
May you be well.
As Jesus was both man and God at the same time, in the form of Jesus, I have read that when he said this, it was the human side of Him reacting.
Actually Jesus was not God Almighty! The Father. Why would he call out to the Father if he was the Father? Why would he pray to the Father! Why would he say the Father is greater than he? Why would he say it is the Father who sent me? The trinity is a fake doctrine concocted in the 3rd century by philosopher Tertullian who claimed to be a Church Father but no record ever existed of that! He left theChurch and began practicing Montanism which the Church considered a heretic teaching. The Church Fathers refused to repeal his trinity doctrine because it would make them look incompetent when they said the Church doctrines come only from the Holy Spirit. Tertullian was neither holy or a true follower of Christian faith yet somehow convinced the Church Fathers to adopt his Trinitarian theory! The Church was the center of influence at the time and philosophers were eager to get involved in Church teachings in order to become influential and recognized. Many tried. Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo both were able to influence Church doctrine by introducing non scriptural theories which the Church Fathers adopted as doctrine!
we never ask for our existence. We are all born crying. crying of discomfort
You are abosolutely right friend
It's all about You JESUS ✝️ 🙌 🕊️ ❤️
The suffering that characterizes individual human life is so intense that even if God himself undergoes it, it will test his faith to the point that he will not believe in his own existence.
Was that from a Jordan Peterson lecture?
@@fifthfreedom2786 Yes, originally from Slavoj Zizek to Peterson in their debate, probably around the topic of suffering. Peterson later said of their whole debate the one thing that stood out to him, Zizek said, Of course we are allowed to complain about suffering for even Jesus had his doubts while on the cross and he was the son of God. Then Peterson put it in his own words.
Thank you
John 10:16-18
16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life-only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
He was quoting the Psalms
@kylejoel2957 - Which Psalms [plural]? I thought He was just quoting Psalm 22 & many details of that one Psalm occurred at His crucifixion.
That's a good question.
WE CAN NEVER DIMINISH THE SUFFERING JESUS WENT THROUGH FOR US. He was forsaken in this moment and this moment only because he had taken on all the sin in the world and become sin. We deserve to be forsaken therefore the only just thing god could do to reconcile man with god is forsake his only son in our place. Attempting to diminish or lessen the suffering that Jesus truthfully took on our behalf is a dangerous thing. We cannot lose sight that he was given the punishment WE deserve therefore it is only logical to conclude that God did actually forsaken him in this moment. Complete disconnection with the father at this moment was the only justifiable punishment for what sin brings. And knowing that is a freeing experience and brings a whole new meaning for what God himself did for those who don't deserve it. At times it is incomprehensible. Nonetheless we cannot deny that he was forsaken because otherwise we have no hope of not being forsaken.
Jesus cried out to the Father because Holy Spirit that protected him was removed in order for his death to occur! Jesus confirmed that his impending death was equal to the death of all mankind ! Jesus died the exact same way Adam died! He had to in order for his death to be equal to the death of Adam! Otherwise his death would not have been equal to Adam’s and would not have sufficiently covered the sins of mankind!
Suffering for thee days and coming back from the dead {{ compared }} to the suffering of Prometheus forced to have his belly eaten by birds 🦅 🙄 or the suffering of several torture’s such as the brazen bull 😒👉 hell 👈😉 the suffering of burning alive for eternity for not kissing god’s @$$ 🔥😡🔥 such a “”loving”” god 🔥🥰🔥
What is suffering if you know right after you will be in heaven. This isn’t suffering, suffering is a 8 year old girl getting decapitated slowly crying for help. Your Jesus doesn’t exist
Why did God create sin in the first place? Why was his solution to the problem of sin to send himself so people could sacrifice him to himself?
More importantly, how many thousands of year have to go by before people understand that no one is coming back?
If he was forsaken how did he conquer death, and come back 3 days later resurrected. He was not forsaken not once the scripture tells you that Jesus had complete trust in God the father and never faltered from it . Jesus knew he was going to die on the cross he tells his disciples over and over again yet they do not believe him. The translation from Hebrew to greek got messed up. I truly believe that the truth is not that he was forsaken if that were true Jesus sacrifice was for nothing but abandonment.
He said that because in jewish teaching if you want to pray but are sick or cant recite the hole prayer you should say the first fews words of your prayer outloud and continue the rest in your mind and heart and your prayer will be accepted
When Jesus said , "my god my god ,why have you forsaken me ,he knew that, us his children just like Jesus his child asked, we do ,why have you forsaken us he did not that is why he sent down his heart his son to die .jesus never asked his father he asked us to reflect .that is sacrifice 🙏 that is self reflection ❤️
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Imagine going through all this pain and torment and moments before death you second question god. Did he not trust that this was god’s plan all along?
I recently watched the passion of christ. When God gave his last moment he mentioned the word "forsaken" which brought me to figure out what he was actually meaning.
But as farther I go into details the whole explanation just brings me right back to the same question. I'm so sorry but everyone who tried to explain it or is explaining it just seems like they try to give the spot light to how Jesus saved us. (I personally think that is real love)
But the actual question remains on why did he mentioned that to his father? I saw people mentioned psalm 22 where he also mentioned that word "forsaken"
Yet I saw in the movie "passion of christ" that Jesus went on his own and also cried out to his Father telling him why have you left me alone.
It's been a long time since I've saw the movie but since I'm reading the Bible I just wanted a clear path a straight answer no going around the bush with the answer yet I don't think anyone really knows the answer they just assumed. I hope someone can correct me because I'm trying to get in the correct road to heaven if my God the father spirit and Jesus christ has me written on there list.
I also want to apologize to my father to why I have that question but I hope someone can bring me to the light
did you end up finding an answer?
I think it was mistranslation, look up older references point to something else enterly
I guess only Jesus can answer that question.
Where is he?
He’s late
@@King-vf5pgin heaven, It is written "So then after the lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat at the right hand of God." -Mark 16:19
@@King-vf5pg "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" -2 Peter 3:9
Try and be patient and Love one another as Jesus Loved us. - John 13:34
🧩Psalms 22:1-31 (KJV) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Perfect
Jeremiah 16:10-1
10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the Lord pronounced all this great evil against us? or what is our iniquity? or what is our sin that we have committed against the Lord our God?
11 Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the Lord, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;
Jesus is king .
In my opinion, Christ human side cried in pain and felt forsaken for a moment due to the overwhelming punishment, but once it was done , he said, it is finished, that means he paid all our sins with his painful sacrifice. He paid our ransom to the devil who is the ruler of the world, and who believes that this ransom was paid by his sacrifice , will be free to go to Jesus Kingdom .
why did he pay ransom to the devil, can you explain that please?
@@natalieg.1230 because the Devil owns us . That’s why Christ came to save us . He said the world lies in Evil, so the devil owns this world , Jesus said my kingdom is not here . Fulfilling the devils’s law , yahweh’s impossible law) the devil has no authority over Christ. The sacrifice of Christ paid our sins to the Devil. Devil wants death and sacrifice for our sins. That’s why satanists and spiritual sects love sacrifices. But once Christ rose from death he overthroned the Devil by conquering death and who believes in his sacrifice to save us , will go ho His kingdom. Just follow Christ words , the bible is not well interpreted bu the christian establishment. The OT mixes the Devil with God and the book of revelations is false . Follow the perfect Jesus teaching and worlds and you will find peace and love
Jesus was quoting from Psalm 22 and finished on it is finished or paid in full.
The fact that something that seems to be proving He's not the Messiah is actually proving the opposite much more
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He was quoting King David, Psalm chapter 22. Prophecy of His crucifixion.
he yelled out god why have you forsaken me.... translation: god what have you made me do and now you're nowhere to be found. aka: why have you turned your back and left at this horrific time. why did he say that, because he felt screwed over. why did he feel screwed over? because God was no where to be found! why did god disappear at this point? God only knows.
God disappeared and forsook him at this moment and this moment only because he had taken on every sin that man had committed. God cannot look at or be around sin so for this instance Jesus was forsaken in our place. We deserve to be forsaken but God himself sent his only son to die for us so that we will NEVER BE FORSAKEN. We can never and should never diminish the suffering that Christ went through on our behalf and there is no other explanation than that. He was forsaken just for a moment in our place so that all may be redeemed freely with the gift of life. It is beautiful and we should never limit the suffering and love God preformed in that way for us because he got what WE deserve
maybe because he did not intend to be tortured and killed, and he felt forsaken by God.
No it's because he is not god
@@inxvii well obviously, if you have any common sense, you would be able to infer that I agree with that. if he was God and did not intend for that to happen then it wouldn't have happened.
Why this simple question always has a long dificult to understand answer? Cause you all know he's not a god, just a man, a special one.
He's not a god, he is God. We'll pray for your soul. It's easy to dismiss your God when you're alive and breathing but one day you'll meet him face to face and all the excuses in the world won't save you from eternal damnation.
@@dixielandcrew7 would love to see him face to face, I admire him, he was a good person, great even. But god? Bit of a reach i'd say.
@@dixielandcrew7 buahahaaaaaaa that's the funniest statement ive ever heard. And dumb too 😇 so he is not god, but he is god? Are you confusing your brain to your arse, lady?
The question is did you ever see the God your talking to? Or do you even know him? Only jesus christ knew whos God the father. And without jesus your nothing. You cant come to the God the father without jesus. Because jesus is the only way. May God bless you.
Because doctrine hard to break, it's comes with cult mentality.
I'm still confused
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” (“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”) correctly appears in the Aramaic manuscripts as, “Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani” (“My God, My God, for this is my purpose[alt. was spared] [alt. this was my destiny.]”)
According to another of Lamsa's books "Idioms of the Bible Explained" Matthew could not have supplied the "translation" supplied above, for it does not correctly render the ARAMAIC meaning, which is ..."My God, My God, for this I was kept." Or to use more familiar Eastern terminology..."my destiny!"
You're welcome
I thought Jesus is GOD but just in human form? I'm new to this and this confuses me, I pray to GOD then I feel bad thinking I didn't give the same praise to Jesus and then I say to myself it's the same thing when I'm not sure if that's even correct! ..🤯 ✞
Does anyone know why when I use Google translate it translates it as “Why did you die?”
Furthermore sabachtani on its own translates as sabbath…
Read Psalm 22.
Now... answer these questions: (1) When did the Psalms get numbered? (2) When were lines and verses in any Scripture of the Bible numbered? (3) How did people know what particular Psalm or Book of Scripture you were talking about BEFORE numbers were given?
And THERE'S your answer for why Jesus said ''My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?'' He was NOT in despair. He was quoting... in order to silence those who dared to ask why he didn't take himself down from the cross.
3 IN 1 FATHER , SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON DOWN TO US, AS MAN , MAQN JESUS IN THYE FORM OF MAN , HE HAD EVERY FEELING WE HAVE , IN THE GARDEEN JUST BEFORE THEY TOOK HIM , SHOWED FEAR , INT E TEMPLE ,,, HE SHOWED ANGER
THE ONE THING DIFFERENT WAS HE WAS PURE FROM SIN , UN LIKE ME AND YOU GOD SENT HIM TO TAKE AWAY OUR SINS
JESUS SAID WHEN YOU LOOK ON ME YOU SEE THE FATHER, HE IS GOD , AND THE SON , AND HOLY SPIRIT
BUT ON THE CROSS , HE BACAME ,,, MAN , HE FELT HIS LIFE EBING AWAY FOR THAT SPLIT SECOND HE WAS MAN , FULL OF DOUBT ,
HE FELT ABBANDOND, MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME , WHAT POWER FULL WORDS , HAVNT WE MAN , WOMEN FELT LIKE THAT IN TIMES OF TROUBLE , I KNOW I HAVE , I CAN NEVER REPAY YOU LORD FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR ME , THROUGH MY SINS I CAUSED YOUR PAIN , FORGIVE ME , LORD AMEN
If Jesus was God shouldn’t He have known that? I think we should look at this deeper
He didn’t say that ! The father would never forsake anyone . He said , Father for this course I have been saved . Look in older translations
How God approve his work when he's God
Lol facts I think they changed the bible for their own convenience
@@inxviiI understood it, he’s God in flesh not God the father. Trinity works at the same.
Is the narrator of this the guy who used to do those spoken word poems?
thank GOD i am not a christian, only a devil would believe jesus was cursed and a sacrifice for ur sins, the god can forgive us if he wants, he is all powerful
or maybe, Jesus was suffering so much that he thought God had forsaken him.
Although really improbable?
This entire explanation is not logical unless god sacrificed Jesus as an insurance policy against gods future transgressions against man. People continue to sin to this day without consequence. The way Christian’s can’t explain what the sacrifice actually meant is proof the pint of his death is broadly misunderstood.
@Bill Boyd: People continue to sin because sin has entered the world. Jesus paying the price is not an automatic ticket for you to continue to sin. You still have to follow his teachings.
…because he is Human.
Mistranslation! In the ancient Aramaic it say’s, my god my god why have you kept me?
Jesus demonstrated the situation in hell. God will not answer cries in hell. It will be darkness. People in hell cry out to God why you not helping me. But he will not rescue them because of their sins.
but in later of psalm 22 it Said that He was heard not denying that Jesus took the penalty of sin which death simply His soul departing is body
So basically it is identical to how it is on Earth already.
You have to understand Jesus took on the sin of this world ...& Because sin is not with GOD in any way , Jesus felt like he was without GOD while taking on the sins of man ...the bible says the wages of sin is death ..so because Jesus death was for our sins ...he knew that GOD was with him but now that he had sin on him he knew the father couldn't be there like previously while be died .
It astonishes me to see people of reason like you take such explanation for granted.
Can't u see that those who brought these interpretation did nothing but tranqulizing their soul and escaping from the horrible scenery in which their savior is in REAL suffer.
Can't u really see that he was in trouble and he was supplicating to GOD.
I hope u can SEE that one day 🤲🤲
Very interesting interpretation.
Good video. Just a thought: Never did Christ call the Father 'his God' or 'my God' as Jesus was God. Since the Bible never states specifically that the Father did in fact turn away from Jesus we must be mindful of this fact. I believe such an adherance causes us as Christians to believe that God will turn his face from us. Jesus was fulfilling passover, on passover and I believe all of heaven was looking on in great anticipation as the Son of Man, God in the flesh, Jesus, was fully reinstating mankind to a pre fall condition. That in my estimation was more of a victory than the resurrection itself. IT IS FINISHED. The three most powerful words ever uttered for Jesus was saying essentially, Satan you are finished.
Millions of people throughout history have suffered.. some for the sins of others.. but we dont go and idol worship them, do we? If animal sacrifice was already forbiddwn.. and if Isaac was replaced by a goat.. why would the Lord go to the pagan custom of human sacrifice ?
All of psalm 22 is about Jesus not David when Jesus said that , the sun shone again and He said it is finished The Father was right there and heard His prayer and ended the torment of the Son at the words of Jesus. I encourage all to read the entire psalm with this in mind.
It is a matter of theological studies. I like better the Greek Orthodox explanation.
No it's a matter of whether or not you believe Jesus was a liar. He had to be forsaken by God because that is the only rightful and just punishment of those in sin. He took on our sin and was forsaken by God for just a moment. This is a fundamental part of Jesus' suffering and the punishment he took for us in our place. I am unsure what you believe but I know for a fact that Jesus said what he meant and meant what he said and In no way could I ever diminish the suffering and pain Jesus went through on our behalf.
@@TheQweerdeer00 Jesus didn’t wrote the New Testament so how could he be responsible for a lie?
What I understand is that God turned his back on Jesus cuz God hate sins
yet he still can’t bear to watch his son die for our sins
According to passion of Christ during Jesus’s last days he cried and said God why have you left me all alone 😢
That touched me
That’s to show you our God hate sins that he even have to abandon his son Jesus Christ
Jesus never said, "I am God" or "Worship Me" rather he said, "I am the Messiah" and "God sent me" - The statements prove Jesus was not God.
Got questions ministries, it's quite obvious that you don't know the Bible. Because the Bible makes Jesus being Forsaken by God very clear.
Jesus wasn't quoting Ps 22. Ps 22 was a prophecy about Jesus. The people couldn't understand what Jesus said, they thought He was calling for Elijah.
Matthew thought Jesus was speaking Hebrew and Mark thought Jesus was speaking Aramaic.
Forsaken means Jesus died Spiritually. Which is Spiritual death.
Jesus is God.
If Jesus said "My God, My God". Then why would Christians believe that Jesus is God?
I have often wondered the same. MAYBE because in that moment Jesus had taken on all the sins of the world so God had to distance Himself (God cannot tolerate any sin). This must have been so overwhelming because during His life, Jesus had been sinless and so had always been one with God. But there on the cross - with the weight of the world's sins on His shoulders - He was spiritually removed from His Father and must have felt so abandoned. That is just my understanding though and I am still striving to learn so much more and deepen my knowledge. I don't know if that helps but I just wanted to share my thoughts.... God bless you. ✝️
You clearly don't understand the concept of Trinity. Jesus (The Son) is God but also The Father is God, and so is the Holy Spirit. They are all fully God but there is only one God not three Gods. That's because God is a multi-dimensional super being that can never be fully understood by mortal humans. There is nothing illogical with Jesus (God the Son) saying "My God" because The Father is also God. Co-equal and co-eternal with the Son and the Holy Spirit.
@@Ignisan_66 I am glad you understand the "Father, Son & Holy Ghost" story! I hope your GOD understands too.
Sin is separation from God, Christians in human form had to experience this because God in all his glory is without sin.
Isaiah lived 700 years before Jesus ?
This is where i get confused, if Jesus was also God, equally with the Father and Holy Spirit, then why does He say “O God” instead of Father. Because when i look at God, i think of the God head meaning The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, praying to God to me means praying to all three because all three are equally God. So if Jesus, representing The Son in the God head, said “O God why have you forsaken me” then wouldn’t He be saying He has forsaken Himself? Please give me clarification, i need to understand better. God Bless!
He never said he was god he was always a messenger of god
@@Gaminglife-sf1oz He never said He was God, but He is God based off scripture and the things He did. “God” is really a God Head of Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All three are God co-equally. That’s why i’m at some point of confusion. I’m not confused anymore tho. God bless!
II Cor. 5:19--God was in Christ ( the man) reconciling.
@@ralphowen3367god inside man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂so who did jesus prayed to when his eyes are up ⬆️
God does not look onto sin . God is not the creator of sin . God loves us so much that he chose to limit his abilities when creating us in order to give us free will . He created us with free will so that we could have the capacity for love and understanding of Him authentically ... When we created sin due to having free will , the world became full of evil ... We began to question God and His love for us because of all of the evil in the world ... He was so hurt by the questioning and was so desperate for our love that he gifted us with Himself in human flesh ... Capable of feeling everything a normal human could feel . This human was called Yeshua (Jesus) . Jesus , the son of God , lived a life free of sin and was Christ as man who walked the Earth spreading love and gospel . God loved us so much that He had His son take on the consequences of every sin in the world and was crucified on a cross for claiming to be King . Jesus asked God why did He forsake him . God rejected Jesus on the cross because he was full of sin . OUR SIN . God knowingly rejected his ONLY and PERFECT Son just to show us that he loves us and will forgive us . God is not all good . But God IS ALL LOVING ... And I will live by this sacrifice knowing that God gave his only son for us .
I don't believe you answered your own question. For those of you that believe that the Trinity is just one being again this doesn't make sense. When people talk about the Trinity just being one existence, why did the scriptures tell us that Jesus will be sitting at the right hand of his father? I understand that Jesus is the spirit of God in the flesh. God being one in the trinity has people believe, does not make any sense whatsoever when the son of God would cry out, why have you forsaken me. ??????? It seems to me that Jesus was wanting the pain and suffering to go away. The humiliation that he had gone through, especially in the end, maybe he was thinking that he should have been delivered quicker to the grave.
That makes no sense
Welcome to religious apologetics.
@@matthewmurdock4875ur religion doesn’t make sense
@@Yt_trixy My religion? Agnosticism? Did you mean to reply to someone else?
Jesus had all the sins of the whole world on him and in him and around him if God turned his back on sin, think about that
PAIN... The most peaceful way to die is in your sleep. That is the way most people would like to go.
These comments had better answers then this video
Maybe the human in him made him doubt?
@SMUG , as far as Bible is concerned, he never succumbed in his faith which the satan already tested and failed. So the question of him doubting doesn't arise.
@@warrenbuffett920 Human suffering is very different than the temptation of the devil. You can not compare the two.
He said it because He wanted them all to know yhwh sucks. John 14:7, John 8:19 (not his father).
The ultimate betrayer of Jesus was Jonathon Annas. Jesus was railing at Jonathon Annas for the betrayal that led to his crucifixion.
Yeah, I read it from some source a long time ago tho I forgot who was the betrayer. Based on this story his crucifixion doesn't look like a sacrifice for our sins. So many made-up stories smh. Hope the ones that made those sophistries burn in the 8th hell, the newest created hell special for them, seriously I am mad...
Yeah I need a way better answer than this.
Guys I found a way better, real, well thought answer from Jordan B. Peterson. Look for it and watch it.
@@Rmachine91 what's the video called?
@@maverickmedia5257 Jordan Peterson goes deep into Christianity in many videos. I will be back with more details because it is actually really good. Definitely worth it to follow him.
Same here, I am still searching for the right answer.
@@Rmachine91 whats the better explanation?
Actually this really explains nothing
God betrayed jesus ,or god deleted himself ,and murdered his son at the same time
He was quoting Psalms 22
Irrelevant answer.
Isaiah says nothing about Jesus.
Isaiah was referring to Israel, not Jesus!
Not make sense at all
I believe Jordan peterson was right about this
Your explanations are not satisfactory.
God did not forsake him, he was just under the belief he was. I think it is a message that human suffering is so intense and discomforting that even the son of god himself could not bear to hold, believing that he was abandoned.
I think it’s very powerful to christians struggling with their faith to know that for a second even jesus felt he was abandoned by god even though he knew he would rise again.
Jesus has never felt being abandoned by his father. The translation is wrong and therefore falsified...
@@sowilution well that sucks
@@sowilution What's wrong with the translation, then? the earliest versions of the original Greek and Aramaic still have this in the same phrasing, to my knowledge. What is the proper translation?
Got questions, the Bible tells us what Forsaken means, why don't you read and believe the Bible instead of misleading people.
The people didn't understand what Jesus meant by My God why have you forsaken Me, they thought Jesus was calling for Elijah. Matthew thought Jesus was speaking Hebrew and Mark thought Jesus was speaking Aramaic.
You should stop putting videos on RUclips until you find out what the Bible teaches.
I do not believe this is accurate translation see Jesus spoke Aramaic ancient Hebrew. The translation of forsaken comes from a Greek translation and word. What Jesus was really saying was My God my God, for this I was kept. Remeber on the mountain of olives Jesus swears blood and asked his disciples to prey with him. Jesus was dying in the mountain from baring the sin of man. Jesus preyed to the father that he would stay the cup of wrath he was about to drink. That is what he said in the cross that is what he was referring to. My death here in this cross is what your spared me for My God My God for why have you spared me? For this is why you have spared me.
So you're a biblical keyboard scholar
If Jesus is part of the trinity.. how can he suffer, be surprised by ut or even be forsaken by hinself. This just proves jesus was a false prophet and just a man and the Lord punished him by death as is the punishment fit for false prophets.
He was saying like this because the person on the cross not Jesus Pease be ubon him. He told his people that when the time come they will search for him and they will not find him. And if he was ready to sacrifice for your sins why would he says that words which refer to that he didn't want to be crucified. It was not him. Read Qur’an and you will get the story.
The crucifixion of Jesus was witnessed by perhaps hundreds of people's eyes, even the first century historians also wrote about this crucifixion. Then who can guarantee 700 years later Muhammad said it was not Jesus who was crucified while Muhammad did not witness the crucifixion? If Muhammad said that allah said it, who can guarantee that what Muhammad said was true or just Muhammad's fabrication?
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No matter how many people saw him. Because as mentioned in Qur’an there was another one like him. Allah saved his servant. And about Mohammed came after 700 years, no problem because how can we know false prophets and true prophets. By mentioning stories about past and future events. And more miracles to do. So even Jesus Pease be ubon him he didn't see Adam or Abraham, so why we must believe in him, because he is prophet and he talks the truth the same as Mohammed and others. And if you check Bible you will see many and many verses in Bible when jesus mentioned that God greater than him, and his and our father. And he mentioned his example like example of Prophet Johna, check it in Bible and you will understand about what I'm talking about. Jonah didn't die three times, despite his people they thought he was died when they thrown him in the sea, but he was alive. So Jesus Pease be ubon him said his example like Jonah in Bible.
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and how do you prove the quran is true the word of god and not the word of muhammad?
@@youwillfindeverythingbutno1157 Lies from the pit of hell! Stop it! Jesus is God in the flesh.
Quaran is wriiten after many years after christ....no need of quaran
Chop suey
Jesus said that because God mechanically physically turned his back at moment.
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Your explanation doesn't make sense,you are rationalizing and picking parts of the Bible to justify your beliefs but not speaking facts to exactly why He said "my God, My God why have thou forsaken me." I'm a firm believer in Christ but I am not a Christian for this very reason. I get annoyed at Christians always trying to give answers they don't know because they feel it Will question their faith.
Another example when Jesus called the Canaanite women a dog in Matthew 15:21 28
So many so-called Christians on RUclips tried to rationalize this saying that he didn't call the woman a dog he called her a little dog or he called her a lost puppy. At the end of the day he called her a freaking dog. This is what turns people off. Or they to justify that him calling the woman a dog was acceptable because her people on the Canaanites were very bad people when it was clearly a derogatory and races remark demonstrated to teach his disciples compassion because they were racist against anyone that wasn't a Jew. I said it is what it is.
Look you get the point, just be honest and tell the truth." I don't know" stop trying to always make up answers.
have a Jewish friend who claims that "sabachthani" does not mean "forsaken." Can you clarify?
Answer:
Language, words, and translations can be a bit tricky. To claim that sabachthani does not mean forsaken is either right or wrong, depending on context.
Sabachthani generally means to have been abandoned or left behind, but it means to have been abandoned for a purpose or reason.
When we generally think of “forsaken,” we think of an uncaring abandonment. The Aramaic word for being abandoned without care or because of being unwanted would be taatani. The Aramaic for being abandoned because of being forgotten would be nashatani.
In the context of Jesus on the cross, it is clearly a reference to being abandoned, but it does not imply that Jesus felt his Father carelessly abandoned him.
In some ancient cultures, in order to pass from boyhood to manhood, the young male would have to spend the night alone in the wilderness. Alone and in the dark, the young male might wonder, “Why did my father leave me in this place?” But the young male knows there is a purpose to being there and that his father knows what he is doing and is doing so with love.
The bible in this verse proof that Jesus
Not a God , just a prophet, maybe the Muslim rite all along My God , My God why have you forsaken me
Are you muslim???
@Huss Huss: No it didn't proof he was ' just a prophet', did you listen to the video commentary?
You guys like to take or cut out one tinny part of the scriptures to suit your false narratives. What about John 10:30, John 3:16, John 1:1, Matthew 1:23, Mathew 8:29, Matthew 14:22-33 essentially the whole of John, Matthew, Mark and Luke that was about exhibition of Jesus's divinity.
You clearly don't understand the concept of Trinity. Jesus (The Son) is God but also The Father is God, and so is the Holy Spirit. They are all fully God but there is only one God not three Gods. That's because God is a multi-dimensional super being that can never be fully understood by mortal humans. There is nothing illogical with Jesus (God the Son) saying "My God" because The Father is also God. Co-equal and co-eternal with the Son and the Holy Spirit.
If Jesus is God, why is he crying out “my GOD my GOD why have you forsaken me?” This is just nonsense.
Believe in islam my brother dont listen to stupid religion in islam jesus just a prophet and he didnt die on the cross he was saved
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Allahi! Allahi!
Not Eli! Eli!
Assyrian and Coptic Christian's word for God in Arabic/Aramaic is Allah. They are not Muslim.
Allah = God
Allahi = My God
Walahi = I swear to God.
Look up the scene from _Passion of the Christ_ He says, "Allahi"
i cannot understand that concept of taking sin, he took all of the sins, now he is a sin, god hates sin, etc... no sense... or is it an attempt to justify the fact that god allowed his son to be tortured?
First of all I start my words by saying as Jesus said( peace be upon you) see John 20:21 and as Muslims do when they greetings each others.
If you see Bible of nowadays, in the beginning, we will find that Genesis say there is only one God. Despite the fact in the introduction you will find Christian scholars want people to believe in trinity. If you go and ask people why you celebrate the birthday of Jesus Pease be ubon him in winter, ask them where is mentioned in Bible he was born in winter, in fact he was born according to Qur’an in summer, and Bible say this as well. And you can check it easily. If you go to Matthew chapter 12:38,you will find Jesus Pease be ubon him told them that his example like Jonah. And Jonah people they thought he was dead when they thrown him in the sea, but he was not and he was life three times as Jesus Pease be ubon him. If you go to John 7:6,He told his people that his time hasn't come yet. And the answer easy from Islam because he will come in the end of this world to Kill anticrist, and save Humanity. Just think about deeply *. If you see John 7:36,Jesus Pease be ubon him said (I'm going to him who sent me, you will seek me and you will not find me, where I am you cannot come) it is clear when they want to Kill him he will ascend, because they will seek for him and no place on the earth to find him. He is as Qur’an says God (Allah praise be to him) lift him up. And I can prove from Bible he is not the one who was on the cross, because Jesus Pease be ubon him he knew that he gonna crucified and he told his people, and as Christians believe he done this to remove the sins, but it was not correct, check Matthew 27:46,the person on the cross was crying God why you forsaken me! So if Jesus was ready to sacrifice by Himself for you, why he would say such words?! Like someone disappointed by his God, Ask yourself, that means it was not him on the cross.
Now I will prove you from Bible That there is Prophet has to come, and this Prophet is Mohammed peace be upon him, go to John 16:7,8,9,10,till 20,you can see clearly he was referring to someone has to come, some Christians people they think he was talking about holy spirit but this is not Correct, because if he was talking about holy spirit has to come that means he has no holy spirit inside him at that moment. Or he was fare away from holy spirit because he mentioned that if I don't go away, he will not come, and I will prove here in this context the spirit of truth means Prophet, If you see the book of revelation 4:6 (The seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth) so if you ask Christians they will say we have only one holy spirit, but according to Bible everything can be holy spirit Prophet also. If you check John 4:1,2,it is meant false prophets equal to false spirits and and Good prophets refers to Spirits of truth. So Jesus Pease be ubon him said something but people today say something else to convince their desires. See John 6:14,Jesus Pease be ubon him gave them an example about the leftover of the food, and people said (he is the Prophet who is to come) and it is compatible with Islam as it has the final book and last prophet. And I have seen many verses referring to Prophet has to come in Bible. But still Christians they don't want the truth *.
If you Go and see psalm 95:3...11, you will see it mentioned the 3:God is one as Islam say , 6:and the worship like bow down and kneel before the lord as Muslims do
7:we are the people of his pasture, as Muslims say we are his servants, 7 for forty years.. This number is the same when Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him received the revelation for first time. And if you check the next 96,oh sing to the lord a new song, is referring to a new language (Arabic) because this for first time a new language for Words of God. And if you see 13,(before the lord he comes) also refers to the last Prophet (Mohammed) because all what mentioned compatible with his character. And still many signs and hints in Bible refer to Islam and last prophet Mohammed peace be upon him but I will mention only few because no space for that. And more and more but no place to mention everything about the prophesy of Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him in Bible and check also psalm 98:7,8,9. And now I will show you how Jesus Pease be ubon was Prophet not God. If check you will see that in Bible all people who were chosen by God Bible call them Sons of God and the father refers to God. Because in that old language they referred to People as sons of God and to the God as Father, now see in Bible Mark 13:32,Jesus Pease be ubon him clearly mentions that he has no knowledge. And this means he was not God only Prophet like others, representing God on Earth. See John 7:16 he said (My teaching is not mine but he who has sent me (if anyone's will is to do God'sWill) that means he was only prophet as the previous as Qur’an say. Go and see John 20:17, Jesus said to her (do not cling on me, for he I have not yest ascended to the father, but Go to my brotherS and say to them Im ascending to my father and your father, to my God and your God. And this clearly shows that he was not God, it mentioned many times such verses. But people they don't want to open their eyes and see the truth. Go to Matthew 5:17(Do not think I have come to destroy they law or the Prophets, I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Now in the end I would like to say thank you for reading. And I advise my Christians friend to read Bible carefully. And not follow what people say follow what your book says. Because all what have changed in Bible and despite many things was deleted and added by people. But still many and many verses referring that Jesus Pease be ubon he was a Prophet and he was not die on the cross. I have read Bible a lot. I didn't see any single verse Jesus Pease be ubon him says I'm God and worship me. It is only people idea to take Him as a God. Jesus Pease be ubon him he is son of Mary, he has no father, and his birth was a miracle and his life, and we have the first Prophet Adam peace be upon him have no father and no mother, so consider please. And open your mind see the truth and believe in Allah and the last spirit of the truth Mohammed. It is mentioned in Qur’an what means that Jesus Pease be ubon him will witness against people who consider him as God, because he didn't say* read Bible carefully and you you will see Islam in his correct verses. Read Qur’an and you will see all answers to your questions in Bible. GOD cannot be human, human has an end, But God has no beginning and no end. Nothing can describe him, beyond our imagination, the Creator (Allah) praise be to him. We need him we are his creation Allah doesn't need us, The most powerful the wise... I can't describe. But I remind you from verse in Bible (I'm who I'm) if you read Bible you will understand what does it mean.
Islam believes in all prophets, from Adam, Noah ...Jesus And the last one is Mohammed peace be upon them all. And all books but we follow the last revelation Qur’an. All prophets they were came with one message to Worship one God (Allah),the only one Perfect. So please do not make your Prophet witness against you. Read and read Qur’an and you will understand why you are here in this land. GOD not like human needs to eat or sleep or get sick, he is the creator and he does not sleep or get tired or anything what you thing. He is we can't describe him. Praise be to him. So my Christian friends, I'm telling you I did not understand the meaning of life till I found Islam, I read everything I can read but I didn't feel like now when I'm a Muslim.when I'm a Muslim I feel this is the best Gift from God(Allah) so I advise to read about Islam from the Qur’an and hadiths not from what you see in the media or people who say we are Muslims and they don't know about Islam only name or people who use Islam as a way to control above others, so you read Qur’an and Islam and see by yourself the beauty of Islam. The religion of all prophets the religion of peace . And I finish up my word from a verse of Qur'an:
Ayatul Kursi
The Throne Verse (2:255)
Allahu laaa ilaaha illaa huwal haiyul qai-yoom; laa taakhuzuhoo sinatunw wa laa nawm; lahoo maa fissamaawaati wa maa fil ard; man zallazee yashfa'u indahooo illaa be iznih; ya'lamu maa baina aideehim wa maa khalfahum; wa laa yuheetoona beshai 'immin 'ilmihee illa be maa shaaaa; wasi'a kursiyyuhus samaa waati wal arda wa la ya'ooduho hifzuhumaa; wa huwal aliyyul 'azeem
اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاءَ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاواتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ
Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor Sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there that can intercede in His presence except as he permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His throne doth extend over the heavens and on earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, For He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
May Allah Guide you all to the way wants. Amen.
Your othman book, quran, is a book of lies and fables. Does it gives you one shred of evidence that Jesus was never crucified? How can you trust or believe a book written some 900 years after the actual event took place by those that are not even natives of the region where Jesus was persecuted?
Sorry to hear but FROM the word of God ,WHOEVER DOES NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS IS CHRIST ( messiah or savior) All go to hell. They become the enemies of God.
Yes he did . Forget him and this
😂wrong translation the word Eloi or Elohim El in ancient hebrew is the name of the father 😂while judaidm called him YAHUAh
The word God is not a title but a name of of an arch angel cherubim who gave adam thr fruit of knolwedge 😂😂
Erased the word god put the hebrew name jesus called his father name not god in english translation 😂😂😂
Jesus was replaced by another man. Quran
Quranic stories are fables and lies. No shrink of evidence!
God turned away because he couldn’t watch any more and he ran away.
Hahahaaaa, desperate christians.