The Astounding Reason Jesus Cried Out “My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?”
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2023
- "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" Jesus cries out these words from the cross as he approaches death. Why? Did he feel abandoned by God the Father? Was he, in fact, abandoned? Why else would he make such a cry?
When we understand the profound reason Jesus cried out to his Father in this way, it will change the way we live our lives. Today, Dr. Edward Sri explains to us how.
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I kept hesitating to watch this one. It is talking about the passage of the Bible that has disturbed me the most. I was afraid of what I might hear. Finally, I did decide to listen and discovered that my fears were over nothing. Rather than hearing an answer even more unsettling than I had already imagined, I heard words of great hope instead. God has been leading me on a journey this lent. This has been one of the steps along that path. I thank God for leading me here and I thank you for sharing this.
Raised evangelical, I had a very disturbing interpretation of this passage. When I became Catholic, and learned the truth, I felt silly that I never made the connection before.
There’s that famous Protestant hymn where it says, “the Father turns his face away” but the scripture actually never says that. Not once.
In fact, to suggest such a thing as possible, almost seems to be denying the Blessed Trinity.
I will go with the words of Dr. Scott Hahn in describing the idea that God the Father vented his rage on his Son… It’s schizophrenic. It doesn’t make sense.
It was the love of Christ that saved us, and His Father loved Him through it all.
Being humbled by the Spirit and receiving wisdom from God is a beautiful thing!
@@MikePasqqsaPekiM what is the purpose of Jesus saying "why have you forsaken me?"
@@gemum4219 read Psalm 22 ❤️👍
@@MikePasqqsaPekiM I did read Psalm 22. I have combed though it carefully. The whole thing.
In your opinion, why did Jesus say "Father why have you forsaken me?"
No answer is 'wrong.' I weigh each person's perspective.
Thanks.
Thank you so much for that revelation 🥰 Those words of the Lord Jesus on the Cross has always bothered me and I used to think that The Father abandoned Him on the Cross because of our sins. God bless 🙏🏾🥺
He did
"Steeped inside my confusion I've traced a seed of humble trust, your hand has led me all along you'll guide me still the same. *And there's always something thankful even in my saddest cry - Lord, I want to follow you wherever you may lead."*
I remember a priest saying Jesus was always a good Jew and knew his Psalms. I never put that phrase to that psalm. He also said every time we pray them, it was something we share with the Holy Family. : )
4 - 8 - 23
Deb - Psalms - Psalm
That’s a beautiful thought.
Happy Easter!
All Jewish boys were required to memorize the Tora. The more they memorized the higher they climbed in status.
OPINIONTEER
I'm 99 % sure a righteous man,
I didn't say a perfect man
I said,
a righteous man that knew the truths
Yes, if you read Matthew's Gospel it is quite clear that Our Lord was a fully observant Jew. Also in John's Gospel, read the story of His meeting with the woman at Jacob's Well. She recognises Him as a Jew, suggesting he may have worn a Jewish Prayer Shawl or some other Jewish religious clothing item.
Jesus knew we would suffer. He knew we would fall. He knew we would sadly doubt God at times. Jesus is our perfect model. Follow Him to the very end.
Yeah follow Jesus, how he lived how he behave everything he believe in and Jesus didn't make a statue of himself so he could worship himself, he prayed to our God, his and ours.
Thank you for giving me a new way of looking at that verse. I love having Gods Grace revealed
Thank you and God Bless us All this Easter season.
I am so pleased you have explained this. I knew this psalm of David, quoted by Jesus because, many years ago a pastor explained this as you are doing now for the benefit of others. Thank you for this important reminder, because some Orthodox Jews use it to say Jesus was deserted by His Father God, when this isn’t the case at all; actually the opposite.
Thank you. As a fairly new Catholic, this is truly helping me. May God bless you always!!🕊🙏🕊
i love how well you explained this. God is always with us.
Amen.
I didn’t know this; such a game changer for me :). So powerful and beautiful - thank you, Dr. Sri!
Why is it a game Changer?
Amen. 🙏
I'm trying to deliver the word of God and my partner asked me why Jesus cried out to God and I couldn't answer cause idk.... but the lord has me learning. Glad to be here
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
Thank you. I read the Psalm and was impressed, again. Bless you for the great info!😊
Always wondered about this. Thank you.
Very, very well done, Dr. Sri!
Makes sense, b.c God said I will never leave you nor forsake you. Thanks.
My flesh wants to thing that God is not with me or has abandoned me but my spirit renewed in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit and seeing how we have such a great cloud of witnesses must have the confidence to press forward through these light but momentary afflictions. Thank you Jesus for your love gift to the Father and your church and its sacraments to guide and strengthen us. Viva Christo Rey!
Wow. Thank you Lord for answering the big question I had about this.
Thank you,
Thankyou for this message.
Perfect, dr Sri! Thanks a lot
Jesus left us with one, final, *"PROOF,"* that He *IS* consubstantial with the Father, that He IS God and that He *IS* with us in *ALL* of our darkest hours.
In Psalm 22, written nearly *600 YEARS* before Jesus' Passion, King David describes Jesus' Passion - David tells us what was done to Jesus, during the suffering was about to face during His *"Passion of the Christ!."* . . . 600 years LATER!!
In Psalm 22, it's described how Jesus, the Christ, would be betrayed, mocked, unjustly tortured & murdered, murdered in a manner that was *NOT* common back then. Being *nailed* to the Cross was rarely seen. (Most deaths by crucifixion required 2-3 days for the majority of convicts AND most convicts were *"TIED"* to the Cross rather than be, "nailed" to it.
Since the Sabbath was just hours away, (considered to be approx 4:00 pm Friday, or @sundown) a guard took the liberty of piercing' Jesus in the side, with his spear, to facilitate Jesus' death BEFORE the holy, precious & CLEAN sanctuary of the Sabbath began. (Nothing, "unclean," was allowed to, *"transpire"* on the Sabbath.)
God bless Our beloved Jesus Christ. His sacrifice was beyond mankind's ability to make such a sacrifice, then or now. God bless you & your loved ones.
Thank you for that! It was really eyeopening and I can’t wait to talk with my family about it. 🤩
Really appreciate this. Thank you!
Very good Dr Sri. Great explanation after years of me wondering. All of the words fall into place, my mind is now at ease. I had you for classes many years ago, may I say you still got it.
Thank you for this, God bless and happy Easter!
I've wondered about Jesus words, thank you for that explanation. I'll have to read that psalm again. God Bless. Claire.
Beautifully said!
All we can do is to pray for Jesus🙏 Amen
Thank you for short clips. It's easier for me to learn this way.
Thank you 🕊🙏❤️
This is the 2nd time I heard this explanation this year. And, the 1st year I ever heard it. Don't know where I've been all these years. Thank you and God bless.
God is faithful
Dr. Sri, thank you very much for this explanation. You always give clarity. Happy easter! God bless. 🙏
I was about to research this and came across this vid! Ty and I loved it!
Thank you so much for your videos! I learn so much! It’s so important to know scripture and to know our faith!!!
Thank you so much!
Beautiful said
Greetings Mr.Edward,
Thoughts :-
- Message reflect with, "Holy Cross brings us Hope and Eternal Grace with True Passion and Positive Reaffirmation of Lord Jesus Christ in every Aspects."
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With Prayers for Everyone,
Ranjith Joseph (R.J)
That diminishes the gravity of the passion. The passion is meant to show us that no matter what sin we have committed it is never too much for the price or Lord paid.
Thank you so much for explaining this. This has been bothering me for a long time and when I've looked up the meaning of it in the past, I never got a satisfactory answer as I have done here. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you🎉✝️🎉🕊️🎉✝️🕊️🎉
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
psalm 22 is my favorite psalm, thank you for this video
Thank you Dr
Amazing may God bless you
Love you all brothers and sisters.
Thanks
Thank you, I was always confused by this.
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
🙏🙏🙏Thank you
Beautiful.
Thank you! I knew that, but I said that and people looked at me like I was crazy :)
Great explanation Dr. Sri, if I may add… the Jews around the crucifixion
could have said ….”see….God forsake Him, God could have spared Him the cross” but since the Jews knew the psalms so well, they knew the psalm said “ He has not hidden His face from Him, but has heard when He cried to Him “ the very reason why the Jews stayed quiet.
This changed my entire spiritual life 🙏🏻
Dr. Sri has a course on Hallow right now about the Holy Eucharist in the Mass. It is really eye-opening!
Thank you for the explanation and setting right what so many christians see wrong and so many pastors teach incorrectly. God doesn't forsake the righteous and we are the righteousness of God in Christ.
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
Amen ❤
While it's true that Psalm 22 did predict the words of Jesus on the cross; there's so much more there. These are likely the most important words to ever come from Jesus. See, Jesus always heard the voice of his father - it never stopped. But when he hung on cross, he took all sin onto himself. Read that again; Jesus took ALL SIN onto himself. So, Jesus, the only person to have never sinned; now owned all the sins of the world. Jesus, now being a sinner, could no longer hear god's voice. Then, he died to pay for those sins! Thus relieving all of us of the burden that we could never pay. In short - the son of God took all the sins of man upon himself and then paid for them. We are Free! Was Jesus repeating Psalm 22? No, Psalm 22 predicted the words of Jesus on the cross. And because of those words, we are freed from our earthly bonds. But did God abandon Jesus? Not at all. God raised Jesus from the dead to sit at his right hand. Clearly, he was not abandoned.
"He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you
Never, ever, during your trials and testings.
When you saw only one set of footprints,
Its because thats when i was carrying you."
-footprints in the sand.
I have no idea if you are catholic, protestant... But it doesn't matter. I love this idea and it's the first time me hearing someone connecting Psalms with this situation on the cross. Thank you very much. I will share it with others (already spoke about it with my mum :D )
Yea I’m not sure. I heard Malcolm Smith talk about this before (that Jesus was singing a famous hymn) but I can’t find that video because it was within an hour+ long sermon so this will do. Judging by some of the comments this guy “Dr Sri” might be Catholic. Or maybe this is just a Catholic channel (Ascension).
Catholic
They say scripture was not numbered, the way we have it today. So... if we read Psalm 21-23, in succession, we may see how Jesus, on our behalf, trusts and hopes in our Heavenly Father. What a Responsorial Psalm !
I must explain and reveal according to my humble opinion which I understood by the grace of the Holy Spirit. It is that when Jesus said my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He was speaking the prophecies of the Old Testament on him. He was announcing to those present and to the Pharisees who knew the book diligently that he was the one to come and the son of David whom they were waiting for. When you read the Book of David, Psalm 22, who himself said at the beginning of the book, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” And when you complete the reading, he says: They pierced my hands and my feet, and they cast lots for my clothes Knowing that David did not pierce his feet or hands, nor did they crucify him. Therefore, you will understand, as the Lord Jesus said in John 8, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will understand that I am he.” And another thing, since the Lord, who is all-wise, declared that He is also the High Priest. Because in the past they did not read
like we do today. Rather, they knew the holy books from the first verse, and when they prayed, the priest was the one who started with the first verse, then the others completed the rest of the book. He thus proved that he is the High Priest, King of the Jews and King of the world as well.❤👑
Just as in the other comment
THIS IS THE WORD. AMEN
it's not that God has left him alone ❤
He is one with The Father Forever ♾️
@@OussLion21 Thank you Brother
ideeed John 10:30 😻💝
The MOST HIGH❤ didn't forsake Emanuel, It was for him to overstand humanity failings . And FOR ever I shall encompass You. Humans will always have perfect intention,but fall short of perfection 😮
It is not abandonment by God his Father, but abandonment to pain, agony and the cruelty of his henchmen. Jesus wants us to understand how severe God's punishment is for our sins.
I always thought that God turns His face away from sin and when the sins of the world were placed upon Christ on the cross l, He momentarily withdrew His gaze, and Christ being so connected to The Father for His entire earthly life, briefly felt the void created from His recoiled countenance. Hope that’s not heretical, just a thought.
Read psalm 22 that Dr Sri alluded to. It specifically states that God did NOT turn his face from the afflicted one. The Bible never says God turned his face away. That is a man made idea from those who do not understand what is really happening on the cross. Jesus was a rabbi. He and other rabbis taught using a system called remez. Look that up, study it and you will understand that to believe God turned his face away is not understanding the old testament, not understanding the Jewish rabbinic system of teaching. People just took that phrase blindly assuming it must have meant abandonment. Context including historical context is super important.
God bless.
How about this. Jesus was fully man and tempted as we are, amen?
Well, what goes through our minds when we are going through trials and tribulations?
That God has left us in our misery, that we are all alone in them but the lowly and meek will cry out to God for mercy.
So, as for me and what I believe is Jesus was crying out, as His people will do, and was seeking mercy.
Matthew 12:7
King James Version
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Psalms 18:6
“In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.”
The key is David; the Psalms!!
Just look in your own life for gods mercy and THAT alone will suffice. Every single bad time u had or situation, its a 90 something percent chance it has been wpied away or has passed already and you arent dealing with the majority of it now. anything new that happened, same thing. ull look back itll be a faded scab from a Humungous painful sore that u remember hurting beyond belief and now u see it as a Lesson.
Another reason why Christians have to read the Old Testament to understand Jesus and His Gospel even more.
Psalm 21: 2
i have heard 3 people rn and they all gave 3 different interpretations and answers.
My understanding was that Jesus had to feel forsaken so we are accepted because of what he did for us. God is faithful .
The work of salvation means Jesus carried our sin, the fruit of sin is death, , death means lost connection with God (The Father), my understanding is Jesus really felt that the Father had forsaken Him (the fruit of Sin is death or lost connection with God) Jesus had to die to free us from sin, it must be full filled, to make us acceptable to God, He is the lamb of Sacrifice, He died (lost connection sith God) then live again/resurrected.
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
We are as one the trinity is I believe when we have our truly one father the God of all creations in our heart and we didn't that day he was crucified to me that's the biggest sin we all did.
If you ever hear people turning words 180° like this, run! 🙏
Yes he did
PSALM 22
Nice twist..
Why did Jesus say, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? (My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?)", just before dying?
34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" MARK 15:34
The Holy Spirit had to have left Jesus' body, for at that time it was filled with all the sins of the world and unclean. He (God the Holy Spirit) re-entered Jesus, when He was resurrected, without blemish and cleansed of all our sins.
1 "And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;" ISAIAH 11:1-2
2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 JOHN 2:2
This shows us that the Holy Spirit cannot dwell in an unclean place, therefore we need to be sanctified before receiving the Holy Spirit.
Jesus was quoting the awesome Serj Tankian.
You see God can't be in the presence of sin. At this point God removed himself from Jesus because he had to bear our sin alone as a man. Jesus was so alone after God had been with him and now withdrew from him as Jesus had to bear the sin for us as a man our sacrificial lamb as He is called. At this point of time Jesus I'm sure felt utterly alone there to die. This was Jesus most painful time in Jesus life. This pain is I believe beyond any living human can imagine.
is he the same Jesus who break the Sabbath
So, is Jesus addressing the Jews witnessing his execution? Letting them see, that even bleeding, marked for dead, and disgraced by his community, He too is witness? I believe it is. A morale boost to Himself too, perhaps.
I came to this lecture with Zizek's interpretation of the passage in mind: life is so difficult that even the son of God would despair. I am also inclined to believe this. Why? Because my God intimately understands my fragility, my pain, and my impotence.
The Bible is live Word, and cannot be pinned down so easily.
Can anyone just simplify/summarise what Dr. Siri said . I could not fully comprehend
Jesus is quoting Psalm 22 which is prophetic of the crucifixion. Jesus was not actually forsaken by the Father and did not think He was
@@charlotte8299 Those words are meant for the mortal man and not for Jesus Christ. Because Jesus Christ came to earth to represent the mortal man and came and did everything for the mortal man and not for himself.
Because Jesus Christ is showing us mortal man an example how we should live on earth even if put to death we should not worry because all who believes in Jesus Christ will be saved.
Jesus Christ came to earth to 'Represent' the mortal man.
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” (“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”) correctly appears in the Aramaic manuscripts as, “Eli, Eli, lemana shabakthani” (“My God, My God, for this is my purpose[alt. was spared] [alt. this was my destiny.]”)
According to another of Lamsa's books "Idioms of the Bible Explained" Matthew could not have supplied the "translation" supplied above, for it does not correctly render the ARAMAIC meaning, which is ..."My God, My God, for this I was kept." Or to use more familiar Eastern terminology..."my destiny!"
You're welcome
Thank you for this explaination....I had thought that it was because maybe God turned His Head away at the moment of death when Jesus became sin...which was put to death
I think you should trust your intial thought...
Look at the similiar language between sxripture that I want to share with you. In fact this proves to US that all of our sins were in fact laid on Him by what He said, "My God why has thou forsaken me". Amen to our assurance of Him taking our sins on Himself.. Isaiah 59:1 Behold the LORDS' hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: BUT YOUR INIQUITIES HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD, *AND YOUR SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR*. Psalm 22:1 My God x² why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. Again it is clear why Christ said what he said because our sins was placed on Him that very moment and he couldn't see the Father as he always have - but only for that moment and said Father into your hands I commend my Spirit... Be glad for in this - for this is our proof that our sins was laid on Him at that moment when he said it is finished! All praise and all glory and all power to the Most High God and the Lamb. For salvation belongs to The One who sits on the Throne and the Lamb! Alleluia!
Thats beautifully said. However, I dont think Jesus still managed to sing on his dying moments ( this is not bollywood). Some words are spoken out of pain and sufferings (obviously could be same words) as in Psalms like what you have mentioned. As human being, its just normal. I understand that you wanted to make something positive out of that verse, but still a human being is a human being that feels pain.
Agreed. My take is that Jesus in his humanity truly felt the "physical" abandonment of God due to the horrendous pain he was suffering. In his Divine nature, he knows God is with him and knew this needed to happen, but that does not take away from he fact the suffering was unbearable as a Human.
My God, my God for this purpose was I spared. It is a miss translation.
I've also heard this before.,years ago, when I was in The Way Ministry.
@@lenorepaduano5088 Those words are meant for the mortal man and not for Jesus Christ. Because Jesus Christ came to earth to represent the mortal man and came and did everything for the mortal man and not for himself.
Because Jesus Christ is showing us mortal man an example how we should live on earth even if put to death we should not worry because all who believes in Jesus Christ will be saved
GOD DIDN'T FORSAKE JESUS. HE HELD ON FOR JESUS TO ACCOMPLISH HIS TASK. BECAUSE OF THIS YOU AND ME COULD BE SAVED. GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS NO HUMAN CAN UNDERSTAND
I know your reasoning here, but Im not feeling the explanation because I still feel a little mental gymnastics going on when I picture him crying out while he was suffering so intensely. It still seems like a cry for help, like hey, I need help here dad, I mean picture yourself in his shoes, would you be quoting someone or something while your under that much pain. 😳 just sayin. And forgive me lord, I’m just trying to grasp it all if possible.
I am jobe, or Job.....in the flesh
He didn’t say that , it’s a spelling thing in translation . He said ,,Father for this cause I was spared !!! How can the Father forsake anyone??
No, Jesus was quoting key line from popular song Chop Suey - by System of a down. This was the quote from the actual verse of the song.
Father, into your hands I commend my spirit
Father, into your hands
Why have you forsaken me?
In your eyes forsaken me
In your thoughts forsaken me
In your heart forsaken me, oh
Trust in my self-righteous suicide
I cry when angels deserve to die
In my self-righteous suicide
I cry when angels deserve to die
He just sing a banger lyric before he die.
Yahshua said " Eli Eli Sabach Ta Na" now Yahshua said he came to fulfill, so when Yahshua was on the cross he was holding the sins of tge world, and he was going all the way back to Adam to redeem Adam, for Adam gave his life for his bride, so Yahshua was Fulfilling.this was Yahwehs purpose.
Way more deep than this…
Those words are meant for the mortal man and not for Jesus Christ. Because Jesus Christ came to earth to represent the mortal man and came and did everything for the mortal man and not for himself.
Because Jesus Christ is showing us mortal man an example how we should live on earth even if put to death we should not worry because all who believes in Jesus Christ will be saved
It was not a sacrafice for sins, it was a murder
He thought God was going to save him.
It is written that since his resurrection, Jesus has been interceding for us before God[19] as he did while he was on earth.[20] If Jesus were God, how could he intercede for us before Himself? Moreover, Jesus called God "Father," thus acknowledging that he was not God Himself.[21] If Jesus were God, how could He be tempted by Satan, as Jesus was? We can conclude with finality that Jesus was not God Himself from the words he uttered on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
Divine Principle
This is a stupid comment
Jesus is God.
@@waternotepad what is your argument?
Jesus represented the second Adam. Adam forsake God, so in order to indemnify this sin God has to abandon Jesus, so this is the reason why Jesus was forsaken by God on the cross.
So Jesus is actually saying “I trust you, Lord.” But it comes out “Why have you forsaken me”? I’m so confused.
… and then Jesus dies in excruciating pain
Why does it feel like it’s not ok to admit when I don’t understand something in the Bible?
Answer : Religious Dogma
Psalm 22 is prophetic
It predicts the state of Jesus on the cross. He is the Lamb that was slain. A sacrifice for sin.
As a human Jesus became a sacrifice for our sin. He suffered not only physical pain but spiritual pain when Gods presence departed from him due to the sin of the world being put upon him.
Psalm 22 is prophetic and will give you insight into Jesus’s last moments on the cross before he died physically and was raised by the Father.
Jesus' role was to die on the cross as a pure and living Holy Sacrifice in order to obtain our grace and salvation, so He had the all the consequences of sin on Him while on the cross including separation of God. And not only the spiritual consequences, but the overwhelming psychological and emotional repricussions of sin as well. So I believe God did forsake Jesus to a certain standpoint in that the Father let the role of His Son play out. Jesus's spiritual appearance became that of our sins. Jesus wasn't just a righteous Man (and Son of God) being nailed to the cross, He basically became sin itself in the sense of bearing the full weight of sin while hanging on the cross so that the nature of sin would die with Him in order for Him to conquer sin and death. And sin is what separates us from God. So, by taking up that role and responsibility, He experienced the separation from God (from the nature of original sin) on the cross just as we have from our curse in order that He can bridge the gap back together through His death, resurrection, and ascension back to Heaven. The crucifixion was a very physical and spiritual event, but we are only able to see the physical side and perceive just a glimpse of the spiritual side.
Beautifully written.
@@raziel0111 Thank you. I felt very moved in the spirit to write that without any premeditation. Just allowed God to flow through me. I'm glad it reached out to at least one person. My hope is fulfilled. God bless you!!!
So the Father punished an innocent person to satisfy His wrath...that's what pagans believed with their false gods. It makes God a monster and a hypocrite. Remember, Jesus spoke what the Father told Him"You MUST forgive"," turn the other cheek,": be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect""I and my Father are one". Our Father - who never forgave anyone but punished an innocent person??
Christ did not become sin, He became a sin offering. The sacrifice He offered was that of fulfilling the law to" love God will all his heart, mind, body and soul and neighbour as himself".if we are reborn into His nature we can "overcome the world" and be saved. Gods love is poured out on the cross not His wrath.