I always wanted to purchase the SKX diver watch but never got around to getting one. In my opinion it would have been better to issue a new version of it with the modified hacking and hand winding movement and keeping the original water resistance. The Seiko 5 watches are really good watches however if you are not worried about having 100 metres water resistance so only use it for normal swimming. There are so many variants to choose with different colour dials now and I personally own the varient with the green dial which I enjoy wearing. I also own a dress KX with the two tone rose gold bracelet and dial which is a wonderful watch and perfect for casual wear or dressier with a suit or smart casual use. All in all good watches. Thanks for posting your review.
It's nice to hear someone review the 5KX without using it as an excuse to kick the cr4p out of it for not being an SKX. Sure, it isn't an SKX. It doesn't mean it's a bad watch.
SKX prices skyrocketed after discontinued. For me if found SKX selling at original price, get a SKX. good for investment, good resell value, ISO certified
The only thing I don’t like about the new 5KX line is they think they threw us a bone with the upgraded movement, but took away the function of the dive watch and then charging %40 more for a lesser capable piece. It’s pretty insulting if you think about it too much.
They didn't make it for "us". They made it for "them". They made it for the mall shoppers who enjoy bright colors or the blacked out look. I was at kohl's the other and saw 4 of them in the case. Definitely caught my eye, which was Seiko's purpose of these new offerings.
I’ve had the seiko 5 diver for 7 years. Love it, it’s my daily beater. But I just got the 5kx as I wanted a stealth black watch. And I cannot wait for that amazing rubber waffle strap to arrive cause it looks bad ass
Nice review ! I really love these new Seiko watches. SKX lovers will already have one so be happy and enjoy it. People looking for a ‘real’ dive watch will realise Seiko now make better dive watches for the money. What the new 5 line does it prevents us from buying a overpriced old watch and spend even more money to mod it! I’m ordering that black one now . Love it 👍
Originally, the SKX evolved directly from the 7002 series, which came from the 2nd gen. 6309 Turtle of the mid 80s. That design was sold alongside the original 1st gen. Turtle until its demise in 1988.
The 5kx was on sale at Macy's online for $177. I would have pulled the trigger but didn't because of the likelihood of a misaligned bezel. My skx and turtle I have purchased in person so I could check the quality and alignment before purchasing.
I bought a Seiko Sea Urchin back in 2017. And meant to get qn SKX but assumed they'd always be around. No rush, missed it. I picked up a Brown 5KX 2 days ago. And I'm not gonna lie. It's a handsome comparable watch. There are downgrades and things we wish we had, but with inflation considered. It's still a fantastic budget watch. Grabbed mine for $189 on Amazon. To me that's a steal compared to the original $350 suggested price. Seiko 5's really are wonderful for what they strive for and exceed at the price point.
Just having the 4r36 makes it a good buy, Rotating a collection with the SKX can be a pain feel like an idiot waving my arm around to keep the power reserve at night so it doesn’t stop in the morning if I haven’t been to active thats the biggest bug bear. Probably change out the movement one day maybe these ones might interchange. Again great video👍
I’ve got an SKX007 as well as a 4R36 Orange Monster, and there’s no real difference in winding the 4R36 for a few turns, or doin the ‘Seiko Shuffle’. If you feel self conscious, do it in the bathroom, or the car or something! I’m not a fan of the 5KX, it doesn’t offer enough for me to want to try one. My Orange Monster has got drilled lugs and the better movement, and cost a lot less too! Interestingly Bruce, Chrono24 reports that my SKX007K2 has increased in value by 87% over the last year. Not a $500 watch, but £242, which is impressive.
hahaha!! if you just want a better movement then buy a seiko baby monster it is better looking& way more cheaper.. it is not about the movement.. i don't care about hacking & hand winding.. i want a certified dive watch.. seiko baby monster & mini turtle is way more better than the 5kx..
Fanboys hate change. The upgraded movement, hacking, winding, display case, build quality. All better on the new one. Should it be 200m....? Probably. But that would compete with their higher end divers then. So I can see why they did it. And who needs 200m really?! Not me and I’m in the ocean every week.
For the same price, get the citizen fugu automatic NX009 series. Miyota 8203 60 solid click rotating bezel 200m iso diving Better polishing Perfect alignment on bezels, chapter ring, and markers. Screw down knurled crown
I believe the true heir and replacement for the SKX is the mini Turtle. An entry level true diver (price apart, but it's now clear Seiko is revolutioning its onw price placement).
I think more just keeping with the times (rising inflation and production costs. Not to mention more desire for profit). More product selection, more sales... inevitable
All fit the 5kx apart from the crowns, if you have a skx then sure upgrade it but for some the 5kx is the cheaper option for a mod like skx. For example to do a full stealth build would cost me well over £300, the stealth 5kx costs £245, if you don't mind the 100m which most don't.
I've always thought the magic of the SKX was in part the result of the 46 mm lug-to-lug length of the case. It fits really well on both smaller and larger wrists without appearing too large or too small, respectively. Add in the low price, the ISO certification, and an automatic movement that is known to run a decade or more without servicing, and you have the makings of a minor legend. I've owned both the 007 and the 009 (got the former on my wrist right now as I type this) and I much prefer the black dial variant. It has a inky quality to it, with very high contrast with the white Lumibrite indices and hands. Watch enthusiasts throw around the term "iconic" way too often, and I've never thought that it properly applied to the SXK. They are good value watches for the money, very versatile to be sure, but icons? I think that nomenclature is best reserved for more influential designs like the Tank, or the Fifty Fathoms, or the Reverso, or the Royal Oak. Still, it's a nifty little watch and it deserves to be highly regarded in the watch community. Good comparison video, Bruce. I think when all the fuss dies down about the lack of screw-down crown, the modding world is going to go nuts for these watches and we'll see endless and interesting variations. I also see the street price coming down on these 5KXes pretty rapidly to something close to the $200 level. And we'll all move on to the next outrage...
I love the new seiko 5s! The prices are down now I bought 2 new 5s 170 bucks each. I still wear my old skx175 some but the new 5s are so much better by far! Good video
While I have no problem with the 5KX I'm still partial to the SKX. I do love the drilled lugs, but am unmoved buy the movement change (hacking and hand winding are not that big a deal on the SKX). Being a belt and suspenders type guy the screw down crown is the issue with me. I'm sure the push/pull crown will be secure but that extra security does it for me.
Own both now and like both but out of the box I'd go with the 5KX. Not a fan of the SKX movement and yeah I agree, the drilled lugs and bezel action is far better on the 5KX. Good comparison video !
Seiko and Orient offers pretty good watches in the entry level category (for scuba or desc) diver watches. But now the new replacement Seiko is rated close to 300 or more (in my country are more expensive than the US prices) with the Orients to be a little cheaper something less than 300 euros. Both of them suffer from some smaller or bigger issues misaligned bezels cheap bracelets and straps etc.. So i wonder why should we bother, there are several micro brands that offer the same movement or better (eta's sw200's) with better cases and bracelets at the same price or better... I hoped that the new 5's would be free from issues... But i believe that Seiko drop the ball with the new line, when you raise the price you raise and the quality.
@@BruceWilliams Don't get me wrong i like Seiko my first watch was a Seiko 5 and is working 45 yrs after my father give it to me. And that's why i think that Seiko drop the ball. They do not pay attention to detail as they used, not to the entry level watches. Micro brands do pay attention to detail and they offer spectacular value for the price we pay. At least for the below 500 d entry level sport watches.
I don't understand why everyone hates the seiko 5kx. The movement and bezel in the new watch are fare superior to the old watch. They gave customers the hacking and hand winding they were asking for. As someone who owns both watch, the new watch is far easier to live with. As long as you're not going diving the new watch is superior. If you are a diver, don't be cheap and buy a real dive watch. The seiko 5s are beaters that you pick up at macy's for under 200 dollars. Honestly I think the samurai, turtle, monster, are all far superior to the skx and the first two can be found on sale at roughly the same price point as the overpriced skx with 20 year old tech.
Not sure why people get so crazy about depth ratings or screw down crowns. I have a Citizen NH8380-15E and dived down to 32m with it twice and have no issues with it so far
I appreciate the SKX and I know I could throw another £100+ to do some stealth mods but for the 5KX is a pretty good package for my needs, 100m is enough, the 100% blackout is exactly my thing.
Been contemplating a move to Utah for political reasons but it gets much colder there than in Ca. just thinking bout it. That custom car shop i could not recall the last time I brought it up is Dave Kindigs Bitchin Rides. Nothing to do with watches as you can tell. I will miss my weather here. No a snow guy anymore. I think Rob knows why. No matter now. Happy Day To all our GREAT VETS!!!
Wow beautiful skx my favorite is orange writing in the dial and pretty seconds hand compare to other watches latest looking than new.the 5kx is nice watch
Got the stealth XKS Friday! I like it just fine , did you notice the spring bar holes on the XKS won’t work with the Seiko 2.5 mm bars ! The holes are smaller that kinda sucks! 😂
Great video ben! I discovered your channel very recently and I live it so far! Could you review that new Orient Star dive watch? It looks fantastic but there's absolutely no content from anyone on it
Good review. There are too many others out there with knee-jerk negative reactions to the 5XK, underplaying very nice upgrade to a hacking/winding movement -- how many of those folks really 200m ISO certification for depth diving with their Seiko SXK? The one thing that I don't like are the new index markers on the dial -- I liked the the look of the SKX's painted-on markers better. I think the painted on indexes gave the dial a subtle but more distinctly Japanese character. If some charm goes missing with the 5KX, it's in that respect perhaps.
Id take a upgraded movement over a screw down crown! Also I'm glad I bought from a store so I could see if it was properly aligned which it was. Is that a uncle Seiko strap?
Hi Bruce, I love your channel. Just wanted to discuss something with you, I like this SRPD79, and I’ve checked with Seiko AD’s but they don’t have this in stock, however it’s available on Amazon, not to mention I’m super excited and want to get this watch ASAP but a bit hesitant to buy it on Amazon, I’ve checked the reviews and the rating of the seller and spoke to him as well and I’m pretty much satisfied but still thinking about the authenticity of the watch, what would you advise ??
Well if you are comfortable I would do it. It sounds like you've done your homework. To my knowledge though, Amazon is considered the grey market so keep that in mind if manufacture warranty is important to you
New watches seem to be focused on the young, at least that's my perspective. I personally think the SKX has a more refined vibe and is better suited to a broader demographic and is in my view more wearable in a variety of situations. I would for example wear the SKX at home and work but not so sure about that black watch. To me looks more like a weekender or night out item. Of course others may have a different opinion.
My new 5kx is only plus 2 seconds on average per day. The alignment on my example is absolutely dead on, must be lucky. I got the blue and cream 5 with the mesh seiko bracelet and its very comfortable ,I ordered a zulu strap in case I'd need it but so far the mesh is more comfortable than it looks.
To be honest, I´ll skip the 5KX. I love my SKX007 to death. With all its issues. I recently picked up the new Timex Navi XL Automatic for 250 GBP. I love it! Its Myiota 8215 is about as accurate as the Seiko 4R36 in my Seiko SRP515P1.
That's it man, if you have a skx I see no point in getting one of these unless you want to skip modding an SKX. I want a total blacked out skx but they do this in a 5kx cheaper than modding, I also want to do a full white mod so a modded skx would probably be the best way to go. Regardless I think it depends on what you need from a watch, you can't deny the 5kx is a solid watch with a place in today's market.
U.U.U **Patreon** you can find the Victorinox Inox Diver for a great price now. It’s quartz, but spec wise it’s absolutely worth your time to seek out. It’s like the “Glock” of the dive world.
I would buy a 5KX. I would miss the screwdown crown from my SKX and my 7002.. I also have Seiko "bottle cap" and like it... better alignment, not perfect. The hand wind is nice, but not essential... hacking is really nice to have. I assume 5KX will be similar to my "bottle cap" in quality.
The SKX, to me, looks like a more serious piece. Looks like it could be more expensive. It stands out. The 5 looks like any other "dive watch" pretender. Just my two cents. Great review though.
if we are talking about entry level divers from a bang for buck standpoint ,and not buying based off of history then the orient mako ray II wins imo. and thats coming from a seiko fanboy.
@@1990HondaEFHatch How do you rate the 👑 Crown on yours ? Mine is horrible to operate. To small & hardly any knurling. Feel like I'm gonna break it or the tube at some point.
@@islandterror5198 do you have big hands? lol. I have not had any problems with it so far. I could see the size being an issue especially because of the crown guards but for me its no issue.
@@1990HondaEFHatch just regular sized Hands hahaha...forming a nice Thumb callus from it maybe that'll help lol . It's the orange Ray , had I got the blue or black one would have flipped it already . Time will tell. Thanks 😊
With those big crown guards having a screw down crown might even be superfluous ITO the possibility of the crown getting pulled out accidentally. The way the O-ring sits around the stem ensures the watch remains waterproof even if the crown is pulled out, the screw-down feature doesn't really contribute to the WR at all anyway. The case-back is most likely the feature that really limits the WR rating and could simply be changed for an SKX one but I wouldn't bother TBH. It would be interesting to see what the actual WR limit for this case is. I'd bet that just like the SKX it will be far far more than the stated rating of 100m.
The screw section in-and-of-itself doesn't provide the water resistance. Its the clamping force provided by the screw against an o-ring in the cap of the crown that provides the water resistance. Think of how a screw top bottle works. You don't get this with a regular push-pull crown. If you did, they wouldn't have invented and continued to use a screw down crown for 100 years.
@@Robosan4000 You're 100% right of course in terms of a conventional crown sealing system but did you know that the SKX series does not have an O-Ring seal in the crown? the O-Ring in the SKX is actually situated on the stem and seals against the case tube which is somewhat different to systems using an O-Ring inside the crown itself. Thus the SKX O-ring (and I guess bu extension this new derivative of it without the screw-down function) seals inside the case tube whether the crown is pushed in, pulled out or screwed in or out. I'd also hasten to add that the screw-down function is not intended to provide a clamping force it is meant to provide security against the crown being accidentally pulled out in a conventional crown system separating the crown seal from the case tube. (you are advised in most manuals to not screw the crown in too hard for fear of wrecking the seal). The watches the very first SCUBA pioneers like Cousteau etc started with watches that has 100 meters or less WR and no screw-down function. The drawback is less security not less WR. people will argue that screw-down watches have more WR however that's a function of the overall design and not one feature.
The "SK5" is a step down from the SKX. You can literally buy a custom case, with a screw down crown, put a 4R36 or NH36 in it,....put a solid back on it,....add a sapphire crystal, and all the lume you can stand,...call it your's and be done. NO ISO rating,...no deal.
Then I suggest you look up the Seiko SBDK001, a dive computer watch, even with a "Marinemaster" designation. Would you like to guess the water resistance rating of this professional dive computer? That's right...100m! So I guess that's a fashion watch, since it has the same depth rating as the 5KX?
@@exceleraterno, It's a sports watch. There's a distinct difference. And 100m is more than enough for diving. Most divers never surpass 30m underwater anyway.
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Bought SKX007 7 years ago and still work like a charm, it's on my wrist while watching this video..
Skx is the diver with the longest production run in Seiko's history.
The SKX is a legend it's the BOSS
If cheaper casios, timex and Armitron can align there watches. Seiko can too.
They definitely can, they just don't care to, lol wont ever change unless people stop buying them
Thank you!
I always wanted to purchase the SKX diver watch but never got around to getting one. In my opinion it would have been better to issue a new version of it with the modified hacking and hand winding movement and keeping the original water resistance. The Seiko 5 watches are really good watches however if you are not worried about having 100 metres water resistance so only use it for normal swimming. There are so many variants to choose with different colour dials now and I personally own the varient with the green dial which I enjoy wearing. I also own a dress KX with the two tone rose gold bracelet and dial which is a wonderful watch and perfect for casual wear or dressier with a suit or smart casual use. All in all good watches. Thanks for posting your review.
It's nice to hear someone review the 5KX without using it as an excuse to kick the cr4p out of it for not being an SKX. Sure, it isn't an SKX. It doesn't mean it's a bad watch.
The SKX warriors are a vehement bunch lol
SKX prices skyrocketed after discontinued. For me if found SKX selling at original price, get a SKX. good for investment, good resell value, ISO certified
The only thing I don’t like about the new 5KX line is they think they threw us a bone with the upgraded movement, but took away the function of the dive watch and then charging %40 more for a lesser capable piece. It’s pretty insulting if you think about it too much.
I don't feel insulted at all, but then again turtle is my pick at this price range and always has been
Bruce Williams I’m a Samurai fan myself.
If I were to get but one turtle, which should it be? Black on black, or PADI blue?
They didn't make it for "us". They made it for "them". They made it for the mall shoppers who enjoy bright colors or the blacked out look. I was at kohl's the other and saw 4 of them in the case. Definitely caught my eye, which was Seiko's purpose of these new offerings.
I’ve had the seiko 5 diver for 7 years. Love it, it’s my daily beater. But I just got the 5kx as I wanted a stealth black watch. And I cannot wait for that amazing rubber waffle strap to arrive cause it looks bad ass
Just ordered my 5KX , I can't wait lol. Thank you for another great video keep up the great work.
Appreciate that!
+1 prefer the package offered by the 5KX, although I like the SKX too. Seiko needs to offer a new mid-size watch in the 5-series to update the SKX013.
Agreed
Bruce Williams, you can also use the stock black buckle and put it on your rubber strap, that’s what I did. Unless you prefer the silver one
@@nikouai I can't, the Uncle Seiko has a taper so the hardware is too wide from the nato
Just got my 5KX. It looks and feels LOVELY. Stealhy, classy and sporty-looking awesome watch!
I have a skx007j and the successor with 4r36, srp777. Both up in value.
Nice review ! I really love these new Seiko watches. SKX lovers will already have one so be happy and enjoy it. People looking for a ‘real’ dive watch will realise Seiko now make better dive watches for the money. What the new 5 line does it prevents us from buying a overpriced old watch and spend even more money to mod it! I’m ordering that black one now . Love it 👍
Originally, the SKX evolved directly from the 7002 series, which came from the 2nd gen. 6309 Turtle of the mid 80s. That design was sold alongside the original 1st gen. Turtle until its demise in 1988.
Very true a lot of skx fans don't know about the 7002 or the earlier 6309 or other iconic Seikos designs
The 5kx was on sale at Macy's online for $177. I would have pulled the trigger but didn't because of the likelihood of a misaligned bezel. My skx and turtle I have purchased in person so I could check the quality and alignment before purchasing.
Yeah chances are you would have got one a little off
I bought a Seiko Sea Urchin back in 2017. And meant to get qn SKX but assumed they'd always be around. No rush, missed it. I picked up a Brown 5KX 2 days ago. And I'm not gonna lie. It's a handsome comparable watch. There are downgrades and things we wish we had, but with inflation considered. It's still a fantastic budget watch. Grabbed mine for $189 on Amazon. To me that's a steal compared to the original $350 suggested price. Seiko 5's really are wonderful for what they strive for and exceed at the price point.
Just having the 4r36 makes it a good buy,
Rotating a collection with the SKX can be a pain feel like an idiot waving my arm around to keep the power reserve at night so it doesn’t stop in the morning if I haven’t been to active thats the biggest bug bear.
Probably change out the movement one day maybe these ones might interchange.
Again great video👍
Thanks bro!
I’ve got an SKX007 as well as a 4R36 Orange Monster, and there’s no real difference in winding the 4R36 for a few turns, or doin the ‘Seiko Shuffle’. If you feel self conscious, do it in the bathroom, or the car or something!
I’m not a fan of the 5KX, it doesn’t offer enough for me to want to try one. My Orange Monster has got drilled lugs and the better movement, and cost a lot less too!
Interestingly Bruce, Chrono24 reports that my SKX007K2 has increased in value by 87% over the last year. Not a $500 watch, but £242, which is impressive.
hahaha!! if you just want a better movement then buy a seiko baby monster it is better looking& way more cheaper.. it is not about the movement.. i don't care about hacking & hand winding.. i want a certified dive watch.. seiko baby monster & mini turtle is way more better than the 5kx..
Thanks for sharing, time will tell if the new kid on the block can steal the love from skx fans. 😊
Will take a few years I think but it should happen
Not this SKX fan! The 5KX is a lease watch, definitely not close to being a diver!
Waiting for vid. Btw sucks that Rob wasn’t able to go visit with you. A vid with you two would be awesome!
He rebooked for this coming weekend! So pumped
Fanboys hate change.
The upgraded movement, hacking, winding, display case, build quality. All better on the new one. Should it be 200m....? Probably. But that would compete with their higher end divers then. So I can see why they did it.
And who needs 200m really?!
Not me and I’m in the ocean every week.
For the same price, get the citizen fugu automatic NX009 series.
Miyota 8203
60 solid click rotating bezel
200m iso diving
Better polishing
Perfect alignment on bezels, chapter ring, and markers.
Screw down knurled crown
I believe the true heir and replacement for the SKX is the mini Turtle. An entry level true diver (price apart, but it's now clear Seiko is revolutioning its onw price placement).
I think more just keeping with the times (rising inflation and production costs. Not to mention more desire for profit). More product selection, more sales... inevitable
Thanks for this review 👍🏼
where did u get the black strap for the 5sports?
Not to mention there are a enough of aftermarket cases, dials, hands etc to build your own custom SKX if you want to
All fit the 5kx apart from the crowns, if you have a skx then sure upgrade it but for some the 5kx is the cheaper option for a mod like skx.
For example to do a full stealth build would cost me well over £300, the stealth 5kx costs £245, if you don't mind the 100m which most don't.
So is that the “Custom Curved Waffle Strap for SKX007” by Unkle Seiko? On your sports5?
I've always thought the magic of the SKX was in part the result of the 46 mm lug-to-lug length of the case. It fits really well on both smaller and larger wrists without appearing too large or too small, respectively. Add in the low price, the ISO certification, and an automatic movement that is known to run a decade or more without servicing, and you have the makings of a minor legend. I've owned both the 007 and the 009 (got the former on my wrist right now as I type this) and I much prefer the black dial variant. It has a inky quality to it, with very high contrast with the white Lumibrite indices and hands. Watch enthusiasts throw around the term "iconic" way too often, and I've never thought that it properly applied to the SXK. They are good value watches for the money, very versatile to be sure, but icons? I think that nomenclature is best reserved for more influential designs like the Tank, or the Fifty Fathoms, or the Reverso, or the Royal Oak. Still, it's a nifty little watch and it deserves to be highly regarded in the watch community.
Good comparison video, Bruce. I think when all the fuss dies down about the lack of screw-down crown, the modding world is going to go nuts for these watches and we'll see endless and interesting variations. I also see the street price coming down on these 5KXes pretty rapidly to something close to the $200 level. And we'll all move on to the next outrage...
Have to pin this, such a great comment!
I love that you keep showing the blue coral Sumo! Hint Hint- THIS is what you really want!! lol
A Strapcode bracelet will change you SKX completely!
The SKX is a more than $500 watch now. Check Amazon.
I bought the 5kx + this bracelet. I can't wait!
I love the new seiko 5s! The prices are down now I bought 2 new 5s 170 bucks each. I still wear my old skx175 some but the new 5s are so much better by far! Good video
Good review but IMHO I prefer the old SKX... Also, prices in Canada are in slightly increasing. Cheers
Why? Yes me too. I really love the skx .. i have no issue with the movements with no hacking/winding
While I have no problem with the 5KX I'm still partial to the SKX. I do love the drilled lugs, but am unmoved buy the movement change (hacking and hand winding are not that big a deal on the SKX). Being a belt and suspenders type guy the screw down crown is the issue with me. I'm sure the push/pull crown will be secure but that extra security does it for me.
Own both now and like both but out of the box I'd go with the 5KX. Not a fan of the SKX movement and yeah I agree, the drilled lugs and bezel action is far better on the 5KX. Good comparison video !
Seiko and Orient offers pretty good watches in the entry level category (for scuba or desc) diver watches. But now the new replacement Seiko is rated close to 300 or more (in my country are more expensive than the US prices) with the Orients to be a little cheaper something less than 300 euros. Both of them suffer from some smaller or bigger issues misaligned bezels cheap bracelets and straps etc.. So i wonder why should we bother, there are several micro brands that offer the same movement or better (eta's sw200's) with better cases and bracelets at the same price or better... I hoped that the new 5's would be free from issues... But i believe that Seiko drop the ball with the new line, when you raise the price you raise and the quality.
A lot of people have turned to microbrand only collectors for the specs at each price point. I'm not there, but I see the trend
@@BruceWilliams Don't get me wrong i like Seiko my first watch was a Seiko 5 and is working 45 yrs after my father give it to me. And that's why i think that Seiko drop the ball. They do not pay attention to detail as they used, not to the entry level watches. Micro brands do pay attention to detail and they offer spectacular value for the price we pay. At least for the below 500 d entry level sport watches.
Does the black on the 5KX scratch easy? Is it a coating that will flake off over time?
Proper good review, just a tad hard to see the 5kx cuz you've got a matte black one lol >_
SKX!!! = ICONIC 👊
I don't understand why everyone hates the seiko 5kx. The movement and bezel in the new watch are fare superior to the old watch. They gave customers the hacking and hand winding they were asking for. As someone who owns both watch, the new watch is far easier to live with. As long as you're not going diving the new watch is superior. If you are a diver, don't be cheap and buy a real dive watch. The seiko 5s are beaters that you pick up at macy's for under 200 dollars. Honestly I think the samurai, turtle, monster, are all far superior to the skx and the first two can be found on sale at roughly the same price point as the overpriced skx with 20 year old tech.
What is the name of that strap on the 5kx?
Nice comparison. Good job, Bruce.
Thank you
Mine fully aligned for 5kx
Best review! Thanks.
Will they release a small version?
Where did you find the skx strap?
I like the 5KX, however have a small wrist which is why I have the SKX013. If they did the 5KX in a 38mm I would buy one.
5KX great name. Very good video. I guess a Oriënt diver or a Citizen diver in this price range is the way to go here
In terms of value prop I would def agree
Not sure why people get so crazy about depth ratings or screw down crowns. I have a Citizen NH8380-15E and dived down to 32m with it twice and have no issues with it so far
Great review! I’m curious about the stainless bracelet on the new one. Also love the open case back.
dude seiko is everything you have always have said. I love my new seiko, YES the japanese do it different than the swiss.
YES!
I appreciate the SKX and I know I could throw another £100+ to do some stealth mods but for the 5KX is a pretty good package for my needs, 100m is enough, the 100% blackout is exactly my thing.
Been contemplating a move to Utah for political reasons but it gets much colder there than in Ca. just thinking bout it. That custom car shop i could not recall the last time I brought it up is Dave Kindigs Bitchin Rides. Nothing to do with watches as you can tell. I will miss my weather here. No a snow guy anymore. I think Rob knows why. No matter now. Happy Day To all our GREAT VETS!!!
You would like southern utah Joe. Up in Salt Lake where I am gets a traditional snowy winter
Wow beautiful skx my favorite is orange writing in the dial and pretty seconds hand compare to other watches latest looking than new.the 5kx is nice watch
Did Seiko get to a point where they couldn’t be bothered to fix misalignment issues so now they call it a feature of their watches?
lol no its not a good thing. They just don't care about it. Not a priority
Got the stealth XKS Friday! I like it just fine , did you notice the spring bar holes on the XKS won’t work with the Seiko 2.5 mm bars ! The holes are smaller that kinda sucks! 😂
I haven't noticed that, that sucks. I've been using the ones that came on the nato
Great video ben! I discovered your channel very recently and I live it so far! Could you review that new Orient Star dive watch? It looks fantastic but there's absolutely no content from anyone on it
Welcome, if I can find it for a good deal I would love to!
@Bruce Williams , yeah Ben! 😉😂
@@WINDINGCROWNS lol eh close enough
Hi. What waffle strap do you put in the total black 5kx??? Thanks
Uncle Seiko fitted waffle
Good review. There are too many others out there with knee-jerk negative reactions to the 5XK, underplaying very nice upgrade to a hacking/winding movement -- how many of those folks really 200m ISO certification for depth diving with their Seiko SXK? The one thing that I don't like are the new index markers on the dial -- I liked the the look of the SKX's painted-on markers better. I think the painted on indexes gave the dial a subtle but more distinctly Japanese character. If some charm goes missing with the 5KX, it's in that respect perhaps.
Id take a upgraded movement over a screw down crown! Also I'm glad I bought from a store so I could see if it was properly aligned which it was. Is that a uncle Seiko strap?
One day there will be a 50th anniversary re issue of the skx007.
Hi Bruce, I love your channel. Just wanted to discuss something with you, I like this SRPD79, and I’ve checked with Seiko AD’s but they don’t have this in stock, however it’s available on Amazon, not to mention I’m super excited and want to get this watch ASAP but a bit hesitant to buy it on Amazon, I’ve checked the reviews and the rating of the seller and spoke to him as well and I’m pretty much satisfied but still thinking about the authenticity of the watch, what would you advise ??
Well if you are comfortable I would do it. It sounds like you've done your homework. To my knowledge though, Amazon is considered the grey market so keep that in mind if manufacture warranty is important to you
New watches seem to be focused on the young, at least that's my perspective. I personally think the SKX has a more refined vibe and is better suited to a broader demographic and is in my view more wearable in a variety of situations. I would for example wear the SKX at home and work but not so sure about that black watch. To me looks more like a weekender or night out item. Of course others may have a different opinion.
Did I miss the lume shot?
I didn't do one here. There is a lume shot in my unboxing and will also be in the upcoming solo review
@@BruceWilliams Dang. Missed the unboxing somehow. RUclips notifications 🤷♂️ I'll go check that out. I gotta see how black lume works lol.
Crafter Blue for the strap win, worth the money.
Hey Bruce! what straps are you using on the SKX and the 5KX? thanks in advance!
Uncle Seiko aftermarket rubber straps
@@BruceWilliams thanks buddy!
My new 5kx is only plus 2 seconds on average per day. The alignment on my example is absolutely dead on, must be lucky. I got the blue and cream 5 with the mesh seiko bracelet and its very comfortable ,I ordered a zulu strap in case I'd need it but so far the mesh is more comfortable than it looks.
To be honest, I´ll skip the 5KX. I love my SKX007 to death. With all its issues. I recently picked up the new Timex Navi XL Automatic for 250 GBP. I love it! Its Myiota 8215 is about as accurate as the Seiko 4R36 in my Seiko SRP515P1.
That's it man, if you have a skx I see no point in getting one of these unless you want to skip modding an SKX.
I want a total blacked out skx but they do this in a 5kx cheaper than modding, I also want to do a full white mod so a modded skx would probably be the best way to go.
Regardless I think it depends on what you need from a watch, you can't deny the 5kx is a solid watch with a place in today's market.
@@M82RKY yes, I get your point. The only upgrade from the SKX would be the movement...
Push pull crown = FAIL
I was going to get a Victorinox but I'll give this a try
U.U.U **Patreon** you can find the Victorinox Inox Diver for a great price now. It’s quartz, but spec wise it’s absolutely worth your time to seek out. It’s like the “Glock” of the dive world.
Ever put skx rubber strap on 5kx....I keep wondering how it'd look
I wish they would make a 39mm or 40mm.
5KX FTW. No hack no hand wind is absurd in a contemporary watch.
I would buy a 5KX. I would miss the screwdown crown from my SKX and my 7002.. I also have Seiko "bottle cap" and like it... better alignment, not perfect. The hand wind is nice, but not essential... hacking is really nice to have. I assume 5KX will be similar to my "bottle cap" in quality.
The charm of the Skx will only carry over to the 5kx if people accept it as the proper evolution and not a new watch.
The SKX, to me, looks like a more serious piece. Looks like it could be more expensive. It stands out. The 5 looks like any other "dive watch" pretender. Just my two cents. Great review though.
I like the strap on the 5kx, where can i get that, if theres an after market rubber strap
Uncle Seiko
if we are talking about entry level divers from a bang for buck standpoint ,and not buying based off of history then the orient mako ray II wins imo. and thats coming from a seiko fanboy.
Yes, I agree Orient offers a better value proposition over Seiko
@@BruceWilliams got one on my wrist as we speak
@@1990HondaEFHatch How do you rate the 👑 Crown on yours ? Mine is horrible to operate. To small & hardly any knurling. Feel like I'm gonna break it or the tube at some point.
@@islandterror5198 do you have big hands? lol. I have not had any problems with it so far. I could see the size being an issue especially because of the crown guards but for me its no issue.
@@1990HondaEFHatch just regular sized Hands hahaha...forming a nice Thumb callus from it maybe that'll help lol . It's the orange Ray , had I got the blue or black one would have flipped it already . Time will tell. Thanks 😊
I need that stealth one
Don't be a Premiere Boy.
I like chatting with my friends
The new one is not a dive watch,it's a dive style watch. And it costs more.
Bruce, can you post your SKX (sneak-peak) video,
about the new SKX models,
that was indirectly shut down by Seiko last year?
No I don't want them to come after me again. It's a lost cause
It's just so interesting
Momo’s doesn’t have any divers on their site 🤦♂️
No screw-down crown = no buy
With those big crown guards having a screw down crown might even be superfluous ITO the possibility of the crown getting pulled out accidentally. The way the O-ring sits around the stem ensures the watch remains waterproof even if the crown is pulled out, the screw-down feature doesn't really contribute to the WR at all anyway.
The case-back is most likely the feature that really limits the WR rating and could simply be changed for an SKX one but I wouldn't bother TBH. It would be interesting to see what the actual WR limit for this case is. I'd bet that just like the SKX it will be far far more than the stated rating of 100m.
The screw section in-and-of-itself doesn't provide the water resistance. Its the clamping force provided by the screw against an o-ring in the cap of the crown that provides the water resistance. Think of how a screw top bottle works. You don't get this with a regular push-pull crown. If you did, they wouldn't have invented and continued to use a screw down crown for 100 years.
@@Robosan4000 You're 100% right of course in terms of a conventional crown sealing system but did you know that the SKX series does not have an O-Ring seal in the crown? the O-Ring in the SKX is actually situated on the stem and seals against the case tube which is somewhat different to systems using an O-Ring inside the crown itself.
Thus the SKX O-ring (and I guess bu extension this new derivative of it without the screw-down function) seals inside the case tube whether the crown is pushed in, pulled out or screwed in or out.
I'd also hasten to add that the screw-down function is not intended to provide a clamping force it is meant to provide security against the crown being accidentally pulled out in a conventional crown system separating the crown seal from the case tube. (you are advised in most manuals to not screw the crown in too hard for fear of wrecking the seal).
The watches the very first SCUBA pioneers like Cousteau etc started with watches that has 100 meters or less WR and no screw-down function. The drawback is less security not less WR. people will argue that screw-down watches have more WR however that's a function of the overall design and not one feature.
@@Leec_1972 Interesting. I didn't realize the SKX does not have a crown gasket. Thanks for the info. Always willing to learn something new.
Its very important stuff if u r having shower lol :)
The "SK5" is a step down from the SKX. You can literally buy a custom case, with a screw down crown, put a 4R36 or NH36 in it,....put a solid back on it,....add a sapphire crystal, and all the lume you can stand,...call it your's and be done. NO ISO rating,...no deal.
You lose the ISO rating the moment you open up the watch to mod it.
I feel like this 5kx killed the prospex line that uses 4r35/6 movements.
i cant find an skx for 200. they are 300 everywhere i look
You are watching an older video bro
Compared to sumo, all black 5kx seems to play bigger then 42mm... 😎
I believe it's 42.5 millimeters
@@williamrizzo1285 generally it is stated 42mm when you read about skx (and new 5 with the same case)
@leicanoct the blue one, yes. SBDC069 (blue coral)
Now in 2021 the skx007 is over $500, lol.
SKX gets way more print than it should but this 5KS aint a even a SKX in divability ,its a fashion watch like all Seiko 5s
Then I suggest you look up the Seiko SBDK001, a dive computer watch, even with a "Marinemaster" designation. Would you like to guess the water resistance rating of this professional dive computer? That's right...100m! So I guess that's a fashion watch, since it has the same depth rating as the 5KX?
@@caomhan84 seiko5 is a fashion watch !
@@exceleraterno, It's a sports watch. There's a distinct difference. And 100m is more than enough for diving. Most divers never surpass 30m underwater anyway.
If we are going to get squibbly... any watch is a 'fashion watch' with very very very few exception lol silly
@@caomhan84 ok a sporty fashion watch. . And now cost 299 instead of 199. lol. Seiko is picking pockets
Skx013 is £500 now 🙈
lol wheres these $200 skx’s
Seiko should stop making oversized watches and keep 42mm as the max.
42+ sells. Won't be changing soon
@@BruceWilliams Agreed I love big watches! The lady's department is over ➡️🤣
No screw down crown. They can forget it.
You want a quality entry level diver, buy an Orient or Citizen. I have had it with Seiko!
Joop Plankman oh shut up
Orient? Pffff......
5kx is not a diver
I will always prefer the SKX. Just a more legitimate diver.
Why? Why miss alignment? Whyyyyyyyyy seikooooooo. Urghh
What are those straps and would they be compatible with Seiko 5 watches?