Designing the Powerful Loneliness of The Long Dark
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We talk to Raphael van Lierop about designing the solitude of The Long Dark, how people have used the game to escape, and creating a world which challenges the player to make impossible decisions to survive.
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The fact that he is proud to have built an anti-power fantasy is just amazing. Love the game, love his thoughts.
@nope Give me 20 years and I'll revive Deus Ex. A remaster and a remake at the same time.
Also,
Deus Ex Hell gang we out here.
I am one of those people who needed this game in my life for personal reasons. In 2016, the love of my life suddenly died from a pulmonary embolism at only 32. Everything felt surreal. I felt very much like I was going through the motions, like life didn't have a purpose anymore, and like the world was just this empty, dismal void. TLD really struck a powerful chord with me, because it was a world that perfectly reflected my inner state. Most of the time, it's serene, but mournful. The crunch of snow, the wind, the abandonment, it was true to my own sense of isolation, but there was something healing about it, too. You have nothing, and you're at the mercy of winter, so there's simultaneously a sense of inevitability and hopelessness, but at the same time, the small victories where you find something to eat or manage to escape a storm and find a warm bed, they feel rewarding. It's okay to be lost. Getting by day to day is enough. You can work your way back up from nothing, even if it isn't much. I needed that lesson in my life. So, thank you.
I'm so very sorry for your loss. Hope things have improved for you.
Tim Haldane Wow that’s heavy man life can be tough sometimes and deal you a real bad hand but all we can do is keep on keeping on. The Long Dark can is a lonesome road filled with perils and simple yet surreal wonders.
Good luck to you man
Beautifully written. Best of luck to you Tim.
im sorry for your loss, that made me tear up man.
I'm 52, have been video gaming literally since Pong. TLD is definitely in my top 10 games, probably top 5. Great work Hinterland, and nice to know you're in my back yard!
Same here, I'm 47 and this game is so nice for calming me down and escaping
43 and couldn't agree more
I am 45 here, and I like to get lost in The Long Dark as well. 😁
I don't know exactly why, but I'm enjoying it.
Am i the only one that gets stressed out when playing this game? Its almost like a horror game, in the night when you hear something and u cant quite make out if it was an animal or not.. Im always scared of being mauled to death by a wolf. Also the constant looting and scravenging. There wasnt a moment where i wasnt living at the edge. Its extremely stressfull
@@ddm_gamer
I find that the stress of becoming prey, is nicely offset by the "ohh, maybe there will be something in _this_ cupboard!"
But sure, walking around at night, wondering if you are about to get eaten *should* be a little stressful.
It feels so damn nice after a stressful long day of school to play this, it like melts away all of my stress.
long dark can swing from one of the most tense and horrifying games i've ever played to one of the most relaxing and cozy games. Hinterland has done an amazing job of crafting an atmospheric and immersive game and I highly recommend giving it a shot. It might take a few tries to start getting a grasp of the mechanics and how animals behave and stuff though fair warning.
As someone who bought this game the moment it came to early access and enjoyed it quite a bit, I find that by the time all the episodes are released, the new game to experience shine has long worn off. This has nothing to do with this great game, but rather the fact that having games in early access and with episodic content stay there for so long means we might get tired before they even began. Perhaps Danny and the guys at Noclip could cover a studio talk about the psychological effects of something like early access. We've seen how the feedback of early access was beneficial for Supergiant Games, and everything System Era had to go through, and I'd be curious to see how a studio copes with the problematic "it ended before it began" issue where many people leave the game they paid for in early access and don't even play the final finished product.
Of course, I'm referring to the story mode, survival mode is its own thing.
Keep up the brilliant work guys.
If you've watched Noclip's Hitman series, even though that game wasn't in Early Access , IO Interactive talk how episodic releases hindered their sales quite badly at first. Lots of people just waited for the "Gold" release at the end with all the content already unlocked.
This game is the reason I'm never playing early access games again. I mean, i have 100 wonderful hours in this game, episode 1 and 2 + some survival. It was SO good. But it took too long for me to get the rest of the game and i lost interest and now i have no desire to return.
I disagree, Hinterland added map after map and then came story mode episode 1 and 2 and story mode redux (not to forget all the smaller updates and changes to the game) and that kept me playing the game all these years again and again everytime a new update came out.
I understand the sentiment but you realize without early access many if not most games we know of today would never have a chance at being developed let alone played. We may spoil ourselves the chance to see a completed game with fresh eyes but the alternative is to not have any experience with it at all.
Playing early access is like investment in an idea that may be profitable in several years. During this time the games are often filled with bugs, unfinished feetures, poor optimization in both gameplay systems and technology. Moreso, looking at trailers how X will be so much fun, that turn out to be anoing time waster or completely mundane just irritates me. The Hitman players got it right, wait for the gold version - a year or two after release, with all the final content, patches and optimization are hopefully in place. Not to mention the possible price cut. Buying early or at day one is rarely worth it anymore.
One of my favourite games is getting the exposure it deserves ♥
We need more non-combat focused games, especially in AAA territory.
I'm glad Death Stranding looks like it's heading in that direction
100%
We are all combatted-out. Lol
Death Stranding? I saw a clip of a demo recently and the protagonist was in middle of a firefight.
@@mikel66661 There is fighting in Death Stranding for sure, but it's not the primary focus of the game.
@@DreadKyller Doesn't this make any stealth game the same. In those combat is no the focus even you usually can engage enemies.
Focus or not, I don't think that Death Stranding is non combat game.
this game deserves so much more attention than it has, its an incredible game and hard to put down lmao, prolly the most realistic survival game ive ever played. Also the fact there is no monsters and only wildlife and the weather as enemies its incredible
Such a different game. Each update and action is clearly well thought out and planned. It is so close to being a master piece. It is already one of a kind.
This might be my favorite game of all time.
The Long Dark and This War of Mine both succeeded in making the players feel the solitude feeling. Loved both of those amazing games. Recently stumbled upon an upcoming game named Northern Lights that looks like a combination of the Long Dark and The Forest but tends to follow the same solitude feeling path. Indies really be making the greatest survival games out there
So true, you just mentioned my two favourite games
Always a pleasure watching this channel. Actual art. :)
It's great to hear about what goes into this. The Long Dark is by far the most compelling survival experience in a video game and really just pulls you in. As he says, no matter how far you get in the game, there's always a chance that the next time you go out and explore you could end up getting lost and freezing to death. You get more experienced, but sometimes the elements just seem to have it out for you. Like getting caught in a blizzard, jumped by a wolf and then finished off by a bear...
Thank you for this great game. As a Canadian, its so nice to play in an environment that's familiar and awesome in its danger and beauty. One thing I just noticed this weekend while snowshoeing in the laurentiens of Quebec is that there is no dense forest in the game - a good shelter from the wind! But I suppose its too far north for that but might be cool. Thanks again.
I didn't even know about this game and now I'm excited to play it. It's seems oddly relaxing but yet interested. Can't wait to play it.
I love the quiet and peace that I can find in the Long Dark, even when I'm starving or dehydrating or freezing, there is a level of panic but also a level of peace. I also love that the game doesn't have a combat element.
I love the long dark, and I use it as a sort of escape from the normal day to day kind of survival, and into a more primitive survival. I've noticed a sort of constant fear or nervousness hovering over me combined with the knowledge that I, the physical me, am fine, even if game me isn't, creating a new feeling that I really like and feels really refreshing. TLD is a super immersive game for me and I love it.
I need to reinstall. I loved it when I played it in early access, and I stopped playing because I wanted to wait till the story was completed. I then built a new PC and had forgotten about it till now.
Story mode is the worst part of the game. Survival mode is the best part.
@@monkeyman2174 I disagree I love story mode
@@Emmet-id6xq Learn how to play Interloper. You will learn to really appreciate the game.
The game is on such a different level to all other survival games, its really beautiful
Not to be too morbid, but I love how slowly you die in the game, sometimes, it compels you to keep pushing forward and trying to survive, and sometimes you do and that's really crazy knowing if you had given up when you thought it was hopeless, your whole save would have been gone.. Best Game Ever. Probably. imo
It feels good to know, that there are developers who really know the difference between being alone in calming solitude and feeling lonely.
I love The long dark , thanks for all the feelings that I experienced during the game..
Love this game. Played it since the day 1 launch in September 2014 and still play it to this day on and off.
Edit: Okay just finished watching and I have to agree with the whole escape aspect. When I first got this game there we're certain rather heavy issues in my family revolving around my mothers ex that drew me often times to the brink. The calm drawn out gameplay I felt help you get this sort of aspect of drowning out everything else and just getting to take a breath.
I'm not a big gamer, but I've poured hundreds of hours into this game since I discovered it a few months back. I have a condition that prevents me from traveling (including going into the woods that I love the most). This game is like meditation for me. Such beauty to explore.
Man, it's really cool to learn that the game developer put a lot of thought into this game, and was inspired by another really cool game. I play this game to escape chronic pain, and it helps a lot. I don't think my life would be the same without The Long Dark, so it means a lot to learn that the Hinterland founder is legitimately cool.
Thanks for the video. I completely agree that the game is a meditative escape. I don't have a cabin or a place to escape the pressures and noise and anxiety of the city. However, now I have the Long Dark. I instantly fell in love with this game because of its beauty and solitude and zen simplicity. I also love that there are no people, just you and your thoughts. Its therapy in a way... Hopefully many people try and love this game like I do.
This game been on the shelf of my Steam library for a long time now. And I do gotta say. There is always time to start playing it and I'm really enjoying it right now.
Hmm...I've heard about this game but never though it could be this intriguing. Gonna shortlist it and probably buy it soon enough.
TLD is one of my favorite games. One of the heavier moments I've had was while I was playing The Long Dark. I was in Desolation Point for the first time atop the lighthouse and I looked out to see the mainland. You know there has to be other people out there surviving maybe alone, maybe together, and those are people you could connect with if you weren't trapped on the island. I just stared at it for a while and I realized I was on an island of my own in real life. I needed to make some changes and I'm and it sucks sometimes and it's hard and some days I hate it, but it gets easier everyday.
Holy crap, I had no idea Raphael was instrumental in Far Cry 3, Space Marine and Dawn of War - all games I really loved and played the heck out of. (Space Marine was CRIMINALLY under-rated!) No wonder I've been enjoying TLD so much.
The long dark was a game that just enveloped me. It's entertaining and lonely. Frustrating to retrack for 30 min through nothing for something, It's great at expressing emotions through game play.
Long dark is one of those fantastic games that creates a story as you play.
For example there is the time I discovered you could survive off cat tails and naps. (can't do that any more but it was an option)
Or the time a hunt for a rifle ended at the hands of a candy bar. I now fear small ledges, blizzards, any food below 70%, branches, and wind because of that.
It really is a great game that lets you chill after a long day.
What a delightful surprise. The Long Dark is one of my favorite video games of all time, primarily due to the flexibility and mood of its sandbox mode. I bought in pretty early, so maybe i'm a bit biased, but this look into the Exact Thing that kept me playing the game for a hundred hours is awesome. Thanks Danny and Noclip team!
Guys you should do a longer doc about this game, that would be awesome!
I love this game so much. Ive been playing since Beta and i still go back to it quite often, espicially in the winter. I enjoy being outdoors and this makes me feel like I can do so much more. I cant wait for the next chapter in the story.
I think the loneliness is the biggest factor that makes survival mode gameplay so different from Wintermute. Love the commentary
I love this game. I had been looking for something like this for years. I enjoy games with epic battles, like Skyrim or first person shooters, but sometimes I want to play something where I can explore without being attacked every few minutes. Skyrim is a beautiful game, but after you get to a certain level, the battles just become easy and tedious and feel like they're interrupting your experience of walking through the world. The Long Dark gives me a huge world to explore where the elements and resource management are your main difficulty. It's beautiful and peaceful, with occasional "Oh, shit!" moments, when you're starving, freezing, being attacked by an animal and sometimes all of the above while lost in a blizzard.
I wish there were more games like this. I've always wished for a more adult version of The Oregon Trail , that has a journey, but also let's you keep playing that life after you reach your goal. Whenever I used to play that, I wanted the challenge of starting my life in Oregon based on how many people and goods I managed to get there with.
Another type I'd like to play would be an apocalyptic game where you're not only searching for food and shelter, but also other people to start a community in a promising spot you have to find. Something with a long journey, but also trying to make that community thrive.
I've owned this game since before they even had the Story in it, if you are even remotely a fan of Survival Games, buy this right now
It is worth the full price
I really love The Long Dark. It has quickly become one of my favourite games and it's easily the best survival game I've ever played. Everything about it just works. It's also another game that proves that consistent art-style and lighting is more important than high-res textures and fancy shaders. At times it's absolutely breathtaking. I'm really happy that this game is as successful as it is, considering that it's quite a niche title.
Hinterland also deserves an award for best developer. The amount of communication with their audience, their willingness to admit mistakes, and the fact that they actually listen to feedback and do changes to their game based on it is really commendable.
The long dark does what I've been dreaming of for a few years now, to make the environment the antagonist instead of needing a gunfight every 5 minutes.
Raphael, Thank you. Fallout 3 was the first game to really create that feeling of loneliness in an open world game for me also and i agree, i would have enjoyed it more with less combat. Fallout 3 being your inspiration makes sense that the only other game which has been able to give me the very same feeling is yours! I adore the long dark. Its genuinely one of my all time favourite games. Thank you so much. :).
I love this game and I was surprised to see Hinterland show up on NoClip. Hopefully this introduces more players to this awesome experience.
Thanks for creating my favorite game in the past years.
I am depressed since maybe 10 or more Years. Since 6 Years i am in Therapy. Currently i get again a Deep Dark Path of it. Where i dont know when the Light comes. It is very hard to Explain when u dont know this feel. The Long Dark is one of the Few Games who bring me a bit down from my inner tension. It is always a interesting Adventure. I think much of it is from the Sound, it is very good and makes a superb Atmosphere. The only thing what i dont like that new Areas takes ages to come. But thank u Hinterland Studio. This Game is a Masterpiece, and one of the few Survival Games where i have the feel it is not too much to think about Surviving.
Love these short videos almost as much as the long. Great work :)
Thank you Raphael for creating the game I always wanted to play!!! I used to play Fallout 3 carefully evading enemies but enjoying the adventure & discovery. I have been playing The Long Dark since it first came out and a lot has changed but always for the better :) TLD is my all time favorite game I can "escape into"
I have loved this game since the very beginning. I remember when the UI was boxy and awkward, and when you could spawn next to a wolf at night in a blizzard the middle of nowhere. The art has come a long way, the music is perfect, the interactions with your surroundings are amazing, and the combat is pretty simple - much better than it originally was. I LOVE what they've done in this time, despite the lag on story mode updates.
I use screenshots for my desktop and cell phone backgrounds. It offers a break from reality and a challenge - one in which death is the fault of the player and not because of crappy design. I look forward to what comes in the future for it, and because so much consideration has gone into the other parts of the game as well, I don't mind if they need to take more time to make the story mode part of it more like they need it to be. This is absolutely my favourite game, with nearly 1,000 hours played on it.
The only thing I'll say is that I wish you could jump. My God, I wish you could jump. Being stuck on one of those little bumps that mark where a car can park and not able to get over it, but having to spare those precious couple of seconds running from a wolf to go around it, is incredibly frustrating.
The game has helped me get better at strategizing and planning things out because of the resource crunch, and provided a lot of distraction from upsetting things in real life that I badly needed when the problems came up (two deaths, one a best friend and one a family member; and difficulty with workplace harassment). Whoever says nothing good can come from video games and that they only cause violence needs to rethink such baseless claims, because they can save lives.
This was my most played and favorite game of this summer (quite ironic I play an winter themed game on summer).
I've have played a lot of single player games until a point where I'm really bored of an typical AAA single player games in general, (multiplayer games don't interest me neither).
But I find this to be a novelty, It gave me an unique expirience, that's why it's my favorite game of this summer.
Now I fell bad for buying this for only 6$ on Steam sale.
This sounds amazing. Hope they make a VR version one day, that would be incredible!
I've been playing The Long Dark for... let's see... probably nine years! I'm still a bit scared of wolves. I always freak out and hide myself in a train car. I've been playing story mode and ever since I've stared, I've been waiting for the weekend so I can just see what happens next. Maybe once I get a bit braver, I can maybe stop putting it on Pilgrim mode. This game is and always will be my favorite game to play. I love hearing the crunching of the snow. Where I live, we don't get snow at all. I've always wanted to see it. The Long Dark gives me experiences I've always wanting to see, even if it's in a computer screen. It feels more than that. Like you're part of the game, and *you* have to survive to see the next day.
The Long Dark is hands down the best survival game ever made, been playing it continually for over 2 years now, and not even a little bit bored yet..
It sure is a survival game and a great one at that. I think a lot of the games that get described as survival are anything but.
@@fordprefect80 yep, "I am gonna go kill zombies cause this is a survival game" lol its crazy
Would absolutely love if this game had a Duo Mode.
It's not my kind of game but I'm glad it exists to help some people.
As a fan of fallout series for 10 years now i tried the long dark... And here i am... After 4 years of being a sole survivor of Great bear island i can tell u that long dark is the ultimate survival experience....
i am always on youtube so no need of notification from noclip.
Now this game needs a VR version
Didn't know of it but looks fantastic and I'll check it out. His thoughts about the game resonate with me.
Such a great channel.
thanks for adding this back to Ge force now, I bought a copy for my friend so he can play it on his potato computer and share the great experience of the game.
I love the game,l been playing the game for about a year now and it's the best game I have ever played. Great job
I really wanted a survival games but without zombies and NOCLIP made a documentary on it.
Just because of this game I would like to visit Canada 🍁 in winter for winter camping 🏕. Greetings from another snow Land, Finland 🇫🇮
Really liking these short docs.
i love this game and the team behind it
He said it all só right. ✌️ That's exactly how I experience the Long Dark. Being alone was never so much fun ! 😊
i played this game a bit when it was in early access, and have always intended to get back to it at some point. hopefully i can soon.
This game makes me feel cold
Even in summer
May the Emperor bless you and give you strength to serve the Imperium for many more years to come.
The Emperor protects.
Honestly 10/10 game. It's hard until you know how to survive. But you can still die very easily with one mistake. Love the game.
Doesn't he look a bit like Richard Dreyfuss in Jaws? Best survival game ever developed.
Yes, The long Dark! One of my favorite games. Love it.
Years later and story mode isn't even halfway done. I keep waiting for it to just be complete so I can play the whole story instead of having to wait a year+ between each episode.
Awesome PvE game! I definitely feel lonely and cold in this game. Works best when you have the heat turned off! The intense hunger to survive reminds me of the purpose I felt when watching Battlestar Galactica. Live every day with purpose & not knowing if you will survive the next!
thank you for a great game been play since it came out and still play it a lot . i feel it is one of the best game ever built and love when u change it up on the new updates . you really should put co-op my wife will not play it by here self but she would love to play with me so i can help here threw it . she gets scared easy and i would have a lot of fun with it
to escape
the perfect description to why I play this game.
Fair play, Danny. I love this game and the culture that Hinterland have created.
This feels particularly different from Space Marine, at odds even.
But heyyyyyy that's a lot of Relic I saw there, let's give this a shot shall we
This is amazing!
759 hours on steam probly more coming once the Elden Ring hype eventually fizzles out for me. Pretty sure I'm gonna be playing The Long Dark forever.
And we love it. Thank you for what you !!!!!
Nice work. Really want to try this game out now.
Give us Episode 3 already, please.
bearded story mode main character looks kind of like this raphael guy
This game is so damn fantastic. My fiance loves it, as soneone who doesn't play many games. Such q a unique and wonderful experience
i loved fallout for the same reasons! must be why The long dark is so amazing
those peaches gave me fucking heartburn
Incredible game! Needs more love!
Love this game
Love this game, i hope it expands in the future, new regions to explore, maybe some more survival perks and graphics =)
I hate Fallout series as a whole, but love Long Dark. That was unexpected that Long Dark was designed from Fallout 3. As I already play Long Dark for XY years already I never even thought about this fact might be possible the entire time.
Anyone else notice he kinda looks like Will from TLD
Thank you ❤
Narrative director on far cry 3? *bows* you have my respect sir, now and forever lol
When can we expect episode 3? Im waiting almost for a year now...
October 22nd
There is movie more like the Long Dark is called The Grey by Liam Neeson.
I want a witcher game with a young vesamir as the main character.
yes good. i love this game.
It's not 95% of exploration in Long dark 😂😂 due to wolves on Stalker. But my fav game ever is Fallout 4 (didn't play Fallout 3) and Oblivion so I enjoy The long dark a lot. If game has loot it's my thing
It's an amazing game.
what about going out and actually hiking
Love love love this game.
But i gotta say im getting annoyed about surviving a wolf attack only to turn around and get killed by a bear.
Also.
If anyone reads this recently is anyone else having issues with nothing saving?
There's no option and it seems the auto save either will only save one file or just whenever it wants. Is this a thing because of the current extra hard survival mode (given to us during the covid pandemic) or something else??
the long dark is cool but i always end up falling asleep irl