2020 Porsche Cayenne S Coupe - A tall 911 to share with friends FIRST DRIVE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- When Porsche changed the Porsche Cayenne back in 2018, they didn’t tell anyone they were coming out with a flashy looking derivation of their SUV in the form of the 2020 Porsche Cayenne Coupe. Finally on the road after the Geneva Motor Show premiere, MotoMan heads to Austria to drive the 434 HP Turbo flavor a/k/a the 2020 Porsche Cayenne S Coupe and learns it’s the same Porsche Cayenne, just a lot more tailored to look at . . . #OptionsGame
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I noticed the more expensive the car is, the more likely manufacturers are to charge you extra for options that come standard on much less expensive vehicles. Porche is notorious for this. Ferrari too. Even if you can afford it, who likes being ripped off?
I always ask myself the same question. You know it costs just 100 Euros somewhere else. If you want a car like that you need to swallow 10 times the price or even more. Or sellin Alcantara as special to the people, even when it is cheap stuff.
M Dac you will ignore that buy them once you get sucked in the brand . Trust.
However, they do give you ultimate performance and reliability. It's just the brand recognition.
Right????
Porsche always charges 3-4x more money just for those standard technology stuff & equipment's like they are making something special. It’s a ripoff but it makes their car Expensive and exclusive so typical people can’t afford it. That's just their business strategy. sell less unit make and more money. I wish they could have more high-end materials since they are charging way too much.
I’m cool with USB-c because it’s preparing for the future. In 5 years everything will be usb-c and the car will be easier to live with
Even though all new android phones and devices are USB-C, they still all come with a USB-A to USB-C cable, not C to C, so I don't understand the USB-C car inputs.
Agreed! USB-C all the way for all the things. You don't need a dongle, you can get a USB-C to USB-C (or lightning) cable.
John Fredrickson funny because our 2018 Cayenne S non coupe has USB-A only so must be one of those first year production things...
@@DOMg00g I’m from the future. Trust me everything is different.
@@ericfox7693 by god, you’re right. Thanks future man
USB-C all the way. Deal with it for a couple years, then be happy later.
Exactly. USB-C and kill every other port in existance.
Definitely needs USB-C, but two USB 3.1 ports in the front in addition would be very much appreciated
Over time I get always connection problems with USB-C Plugs for some reason. So always going back to the normal USB. Works always with almost all cables.
Why does it sell?
Duh..... It looks Dope AF!!!
That's why it sells!!!
Not enough difference between regular Cayenne S and Coupe S to make me want the coupe. I have ‘15 S and LOVE it! It has buttons and not flat black surfaces Can’t wait for Turbo episode Moto Man !!
Always come back here for well balanced, really insightful and enjoyable car reviews. You keep the art of motor journalism stable and informative. Keep it up 👍🏻🙏🏻
WOW, Chris . . . thanks for the kind words!
MotoManTV deserved Sir, deserved
$146k before sales tax, registration, and whatever else fees?! That’s crazy but what’s even more insane are the people buying them. Appears we are living in parallel universes.
Why is that insane? If you have 5 Million in your bank account, buying a 150k car is the same as buying a 3k car when u have like 100k in your bank account... You know what i think is even more insane? People buying 20k cars when they dont even have 50k in their bank account.
Tom M
I agree that we should buy what we can afford and I’m always telling my kids to buy used quality cars in cash much like most financial advisers suggest. As for having $50M + in cash available then I have no perspective. Most of the self made wealthy people I deal with are conservative with their money and drive normal sedans or pick up trucks.
Social media money makers buying them
James Chung : most are leasing them
Orders noise insulated glass with sports exhaust...
Cthis 😹😹😹😹
Gold my friend!
I prefer regular USB in my car at this moment. However. In 4 years when the car is sold to the next owner, they will probably be happy it’s all USB-C...
My vote is go with the most current technology to keep the car’s tech relevant for longer over its lifetime.
USB-c all the way. Be rid of the old as fast as possible. They already sell lightning cables for USB-c, and microUSB to C is easy to get if you have an older android
Years ago, I drove a '61 Porsche, the only other car that "told me" it was a drift racer was the 67 bmw 1800 ti, They are very few these days.
Awesome review again. Looks really good and has lots of power, fast, and luxurious... that's all most buyers want, so choices is always a good thing.
As always, great review. Total options are more than 50% of the base price of the vehicle. Porsche has figured out how to capitalize on what PT Barnum allegedly said: There's a sucker born every minute. More power to the person who will pay that much in OPTIONS.
It's been two years since I upgraded my iPhone lighting cables to USB-C, and I think it's about time you come over to the dark side. Dongles are a 2016 relic and should only be used with miniUSB or microUSB devices.
Most mobile devices manufactured in the past three years will charge a lot faster with USB-C, more importantly, we now have the ability to power a small laptop without an AC outlet and a cumbersome wall wart.
I warped the brake rotors on a 2013 Cayenne Base just driving it around the city. I was told they just heated up too much due in part to the weight of the vehicle and of course how I drove it. I would get a new Cayenne with CCBs going forward so that I wouldn't have to worry about that happening again.
Great review! I absolutely LOVE chalk as a color. But, as far as cables, they do make a USB-C to lightning cable. It’s actually faster charging believe it or not. USB-C is the future but the transition will be a growing pain.
USB-C i'm headed towards all usb-c anyway
00:18 They cannot get enough of these things because they are much more practical than a sports car but still are dynamic enough for their handling needs, which are not very high.
And you drive with a more commanding view compared to a sports car.
USB C is backward compatible with legacy devices so by including it they support the broadest range of phones / laptops / etc you could plug into it. In another 10-15 years there'll be something else, but for now USB-c maximizes the spectrum of devices you could plug into it.
Love your style MotoMan! and your checked shirts.
Thank you, Rico . . .
About the USB I honestly think that USB C is catching on and your future devices will be compatible, remember when cars stills had cassettes and there was this tape with a cable on the end, to plug in your audio, the cable adapter thing in many ways has always been an issue. Migrating technologies, they just planned ahead I guess. Great review btw.
Carbon ceramic brakes lower the rotational and unsprung weight. Track use is just a bonus.
the last line of this video convinced me to buy it
Porsche is one of the only car manufacturers that you can have the options exceed the actual base price of the vehicle. I’ve built a Macan with their configurator and had almost $60k in options compared to the base price of under $50k. I’d bet that added options is one of the main reasons that Porsche is the most profitable car company around. You’d think you’d get a lot more standard equipment for the price but people are willing to pay the extra money so why change.
Regarding the type of USB (Type-A/Classic) /USB-C inputs in this car: a mixture of both would have been nice, but progress won't be stopped, glad they made the leap now rather than in 5 years. Both would have been future proof, but USB-C for many, many more years to come.
VW group has got this coupe SUV proportions spot on... Urus, Q8 and now this car... I hope the atlas cross sport will be as good looking
I will take the USB as a form of future proofing, considering that most devices are all adapting to that plug. So use dongles now to not worry later or regular USB now to have to use a dongles in the future. That's how I see it considering most people will have this car on a lease for at least 3 years or more. USB C will be even more normal in that time.
USB-C. Carbon brakes all the way because the car is heavy, and at some point, regular breaks will fade, which will be annoying and dangerous. Nice review as usual, thank you!
Just bought my Cayenne Coupe S! LOVE IT!!!
USB-C all the way. You can buy cables to go from USB-C to USB
I wanna see the Turbo S
It's a big super Macan and they're going to sell like CRAZY!! I love the look of the car. BTW it's a PORSCHE!! I have PCM so the USB is really only required if you want charging.
Every manufacturer is trying to be a BMW (in this case, the X6), I just hope the next generation will be more aggressive and prettier
Great review, as always!
Beautiful designg inside and out. It looks 1K times better, to me, than the current iterations of the X6 and GLE Coupé.
A few things though:
I think the "sports package" is merely a marketing gimmick to squeeze more cash out of customers. Unless it saves 300+ pounds, it is a moot point, and quite frankly absurd, to call it "lightweight."
Also, IMHO, not offering an operable (panorama) sunroof as standard equipment is pretty silly.
A design mishap that drives me crazy: when the spoiler opens up, the exposed grey/black plastic garnish should be body-coloured. It would make for a more cohesive/integrated design and it is not much of an expense for Porsche. Same goes for the Panamera. It is just a lazy cost-cutting solution to leave it as grey/black plastic.
Lastly, car manufacturers, not just Porsche, need to, at the very least, start offering a hatch glass wiper blade as an option. It is, IMHO, a faux pas that ANY vehicle with such slanted rear glass do not have a wiper blade. I know the Panamers and other models have that optuon; why not here? Has any of the engineers driven these vehicles in heavy rain or snow?!?!?!?!?
H. J. Babilonia
It’s a lovely vehicle but it needs to have a slide and tilt sunroof..
Ps I’m not worried about the additional weight if so I’d buy a 911.
Wholeheartedly agree on points 2-4. Going to be covering point 2 in the upcoming Cayenne Coupe Turbo episode. Regarding point 3, having now seen a lot of these on the on this drive, when the rear spoiler is up, the car just looks odd.
@@MotoManTV -- Thank you!!!
On point 3, i think this could be a design vs cost matter. As a designer, I could understand the choice of just exposing the "underpinnings" of the mechanical spoiler if it was a cheap car (which wouldn't have such a feature anyway.) But at the price point Porsche is, design "cohesive-ness" should take precence. Having a body-coloured garnish under the spoiler would actually make it look as if it was floating when deployed, which would actually be a pretty neat effect. And we all know that spoiler is gonna' be deployed most of the time! Just a thought.
I saw you driving around all the time 😂 greetings from the Kogelberg!
People simply want to sit higher. This isn’t an SUV. Doesn’t make sense to me, I drive a sports sedan. Gotta love how Porsche thousand and tens of thousand you with options. I was so frustrated last year pricing one for my wife, I just said f it and walked away. These options are almost all standard on Hyundai and KIA’s.
The problem is not the stuff that are USB-C it's the stuff that's NOT USB-C
It's 2019 make everything USB-C
Looking at you Apple and iPhone users who don't know what fast charging is cuz it doesn't come with a fast charger
they still have no idea what USB is!
The real problem is constantly changing these port sizes. USB-C won't last long either. It makes things dated way sooner than they need to be. Just stick with a port (like the standard 3-prong electrical outlet in the US), and figure a way for the technology to work with that, for many decades, not a handful of years...
Think of those USD prices in EURO and add about another 20% (VAT) then you have the European prices not even to mention car taxes in countries like the Netherlands or Denmark. So for example in Germany a loaded Turbo would set you back close to 200.000 Euro which is approx 224.000 USD...
Black with the glass roof and Chrono pack is how I would spec one
Only USB C | we need to get rid of all of these old data transfer/power legacy standards and settle for the USB C standard.
Walmart (or pretty much any retail store) sells 12v plug adaptive USB-C chargers for about $5. Seemingly insurmountable standard USB dilemma, solved.
but that doesn't let you tap into the infotainment system with your phone...
Total vehicle price with those options .... I wonder is that with or without lube?
FYI stop calling it a sun roof. The coupe is just a glass roof. No opening sun roof..
And this is one big attraction to me. I hate opening sunroofs; they don't really provide much air, they often leak to let water in, and when open you can get bird droppings (and worse) on you and your upholstry. Porsche was wise to follow Tesla's example with a glass roof. Kudos! I would just like to see an opaque (rather than translucent) covering to totally blot out light with the glass roof covered -- or at least be afforded the option to get that.
Seeing those Audi rings at 11:48! Reminds you that this is just a Q8
Sthembiso Lebuso Q8, Cayenne Coupe’, Urus. Guess a Bentayga Sport is coming
This man should had been a high school science teacher
Enjoy the review. I'd rather drive a Lincoln Aviator.
There's no such thing as standard USB. You're referring to USB type a. People who spend 100k plus for cars don't use 4 year old phones. Type c is just the next iteration and the cables are cheap.
USB or USB-C? Just buy a new cord which isn’t asking much considering you’re spending $100+k on an suv.
you need noiseinsulated glass for the Autobahn ;)
thank you so much. Please, which camera are you using ? Great video :)
Talk about sticker shock! One could buy 2 Durango SRTs for that kind of money. Thanks for a great review!
yep 4 dodges/Chrysler-Diamond product is not worth one Porsche product
A mixture of both
Dude, USB-C all the way. Come on, loose your Windows XP, too.
Love it stunning , I wouldn’t spend more than 20 K on options for a SUV.
They make car like this since they normal Cayenne waiting is so long... most buyer would bother wait for them... that why they had a lot of choice... BMW, Merc, Audi.... they all did it....
Jesus that option list.
Great episode. Seems pretty rich
Spending that much on an SUV I want it future proof. USB C is exactly that
I am surprise a steering wheel, 4 tires, and 5 doors are standard on Porsche Cayenne Coupe
Love that color
Ugh lord, I want this!
Great video,thanks
Great video as always. But I think there is 22 inch wheel option in the standard Cayenne models as well....
I love the orange...but I have an orange Audi A2.
what’s wrong with you? are you sad inside and you was releasing your emotions on this awesome car? why don’t you understand that there’s a new category of cars called “cars you won’t understand as a sad fucker” CYWUASF, thank you.
#porsche
USB-C ..... future proof .... android 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
What kind of person actually purchases one of these? vs leasing.
I can't say with authority, but based on personal knowledge of the people I know, they buy Porsches because the lease deals are more expensive than loans. BMW, MB et al have both good MF and manufacture underwritten residuals that result in cheap leases, Porsche leases are so bad that people go to third parties to get a lease.
Just get a few usb-c just for the car . the future is usb-c and they charge faster
USB-C is a standard. The most up to date one, so i really can't see the problem here. Just buy a couple of dongles to store in the care for you and your family to use if needed. At some pint, old tech need to be phased out. It is about time the old USB standard is thrown in the trash can. That is my take on this nonexistent problem :)
Please do something with the front! Too short. Not proportioned evenly. Very painful to look at with OCD.
Thumbs up for the pooch!!!
Yeah the 'coupe' or fastback SUV was stupid when BMW did it in x6 etc. Just drove the Audi etron electric vehicle which disqualified itself by having less usable space in the back than my Avant. In particular it would be very uncomfortable for my 80 lb mutt back there. I mean a golf is really more usable than this thing.
Most tech for past 12-18 months is USBC. Right call by Porsche.
It's not the problem with USB ports. Its the device that you use. Apple refuses to put USB C in their phones and so that's why you have that problem.
Q8 using Porsche decals
I will never get the appeal of SUV Coupés. They are all uglier and less practical but more expensive than their regular counterparts.
Alex K. Looks are subjective.
European regulators are pushing for a single connector to connect all mobile phones. (no more proprietary connectors)
as a result all mobile phones (even apple) will eventually unite under USB-C
In China ,there have a brand named BYD, this shit can 0-100 sec4.3 and the price is only RMB300000
Indeed
Once Apple changes to C in 2020 on the iPhone we will be right on the money......
There is no point for you to say that some options are standard on a Hyundai, because if you get a Hyundai then are you getting a Porsche, i didn't think so. A Porsche is a Porsche and a Hyundai is a Hyundai, doesn't matter what options are on each because at the end of the day, you still have a Porsche.
You will pay $45000 extra for 360 degree camera led headlights red seats and half decent rims!
I see the AUDI logo 11:46
And the "VW AG" to the left.
PDK....finally?
145K $ ... Damn
You either get it or you don't...
USB c only, thank you
I’ll take a Panamera Sport Turismo over this any day!
why are you bothered with the usb c it is not even a problem
Jesus Christ 14k???!!!! God damn. I watched that part 5 times to make sure I heard it right. The Turbo's options game is gonna be a juicy one.
I believe the demographic who buys Coupe SUVs value design, performance, high seating position & ground clearance (bad roads), but doesn't necessarily need the "utility" of a traditional 2-box SUV ... At least as an X6 fan that's what I believe lol . . . ;)
As the late great George Carlin once said "We Bullshit Ourselves".
Back to the Cayenne Coupe. I think they did a good job with the Coupe bits, especially the wider hips. But I still don't like the vanilla Cayenne bits (front and interior designs).
Definitely Chalk over Lava & Burmester over Bose any day of the week, twice on Sunday.
As for the Type-C plugs, I think a mix of traditional ports and type-Cs is the way to go. Male-To-Male Type Cs are not that mainstream yet and there's way too many "legacy" devices still in circulation today and probably for the next 5-7 years.
Re: Carbon Ceramics, are SUVs even allowed during Track Days?
As always, excellent work M.
Funny you mention the 'vanilla' Cayenne bits. There is a segment I shot while driving the car about the design of the dash that I cut out. You may remember in one of our Panamera episodes I talked about the bulky design of the dash in both this and the Panamera? Well, while I had the engineers there, I asked them what gives. Long and short, it wasn't a function thing as I thought (i.e. - hiding chassis control and/or SRS equipment in that space). It was an old design trick - putting in more horizontal lines plays a bit of a trick on the eye - makes you think something appears wider than it actually is. That is why the front and the light bar at the rear of the current Cayenne look that way. Well, they extended that design ethos to the interior. Me, I would prefer a throwback to the 928.
@@MotoManTV I agree 100%.
whats with the audio in this one?
A mix please
USB-C is used because new Apple products come with USB-C cables and Porsche only cares about Apple products, hence only offering Apple Car Play.
Where’s the T version ? Now that would be a real “light weight” version except when you add back everything to want, making it weight the same... but it has a T on it, so it must be special. Ok I’m done.
USB c
good review, shame about the car
This is what the Cayenne should have been all along and Porsche was too affraid to make before the Lambo Urus was launched. Product placement can have a difficult strategy....
Both USB and USB type C would be greatly appreciated.