The Grind Why? To who much is given alot more is expected. This is a man blessed w a talent and a family background rich with music. He chose to miss use it. Sorry not sorry.
@@josephmcdonald9933 how bout we don't do "what about"s? Fuck anyone who tryna have sex with kids, period. Let's be grown ups about this shit. Stop deflecting on behalf of a child predator.
Shows you that Jamar would do anything to blame "white people". Guy cannot go 15 minutes without crying about being oppressed. Fairly sure this dude has been in movies and if he owns any of his publishing is probably set for life from his Brand Nubian money, yet he'll continue to live with blatant hatred for the rest of his life, sad.
Stephen Ahern he’s just stating facts nobody will state because they don’t wanna be “that black guy” to people like you. I understand your statement tho but if he’s stating facts shit he’s just saying what’s real. I know it won’t concern you tho
Mike Varga that other famous white people are not even getting called out and prosecuted but R Kelly is. Not saying anything he did was right but you can’t deny that
@Jay Chamorro You mean Russians?? Naaa....pimping your kids out is a very American thing. White American, African American, Latino American, all of your people would pimp your kids out for some of that fame and fortune. Just look at the whole Michael Jackson thing...you dont see much of that shit happening outside of America. The dollar is the most important thing to all of you, no matter what colour your skin is you are all the same...American
There needs to be a Netflix Series called SURVIVING. And each episode would focus on a different predator. Surviving Harvey Weinstein, Surviving Jimmy Page, Surviving Jerry Lee Lewis, etc etc...
I agree! We know R Kelly is a scumbag, but there are many more like him in the entertainment industry, that may very well be even more of a scumbag than he is and they should be held accountable also! They should all be held accountable regardless of their ethnicity!
I was more-so referring to when he was in his prime and everyone knew what he was doing, but turned a blind eye. No need for the vulgar language sir !!!
Yes this is too true and it’s stopping people from reaching a better solution... locking rkelly away doesn’t solve the issue because there are rkellys everywhere and if young women are out here seeking older men they will eventually get what they are looking for smh so sad man :(
Beyoncé‘s father and Destiny’s Childmanager, Mathew Knowles, kept a close watch on the group when they worked with R. Kelly. In a new interview with Metro UK, Knowles, 67, said that members Beyoncé, Kelly Rowland, LaTavia Roberson, and LeToya Luckett didn’t leave his sight. “I was there and my former wife, Tina, was there,” he told the outlet. “The thing with R. Kelly was, he liked to record late at night, around midnight. And what was different with his studio was that one room had a recording suite, and next door was a club, with 40 or 50 people dancing.” He continued, “The girls were 15, 16. When they went to the bathroom, Tina would go with them,” he said. “They did not leave our eyes.” R. Kelly’s sexual misconduct allegations span 25 years, from his alleged “cult” to his relationship with a then 15-year-old Aaliyah. And while Knowles said the song never made it to the girls’ album because he felt it wasn’t good enough, he admitted that the rumors surrounding the “Ignition” singer, now 52, did affect his decision.
@@aarong3000 Great question 🤔. I think they needed his leverage he had Lyor Cohen of Def Jam. Probably close with the ppl at Sony. When Beyonce dropped her debut solo albun in 2003. Sony shelfed all their poping female acts for her it was the craziest thing at the time. Thanks to Jay Z and Lyor swaying the execs at Sony to do so 🤷♂️
He was found not Guilty. People gave their kids to R Kelly for the same reason people would take their kids to Michael Jackson's house after his allegations. Stardom. Edit: I love how everyone in my comments is trying to justify why it's okay to leave your child at Michael Jackson's house vs R Kellys (both complete strangers)
MJ didn’t have hard proof and dozens of people with the same exact story’s dummy. Both the kids That tried to get MJ later came out and said it was for money
I have to agree with vlad them grown ass woman allowing r Kelly to abuse them could of easily fought back and call the cops unlike these underage victims
You heard what they were saying. After accepting all the abuse and doing all the freaky shit he wanted them to do, they left, but not until they found out there were others.
Such a great point. I'm so sick of these so called victims or their parents taking no responsibility. Where is the surviving Charley Sheen documentary?
Vlad, you can be 13 or 35 and you can still be manipulated into a toxic, hurtful and beaten to death relationship.. AND STILL.. Some women can't let go of their perpetrator. THOSE ARE FACTS. Get some stats on Abuse on men and women and you will see is very common.
Mai221989 if this occurred after the tape came out u have no legitimate excuse. You’re shacked up with a known sexual deviant. The Stockholm syndrome cop out only works for people forced in their situation. Any woman or girl with sense would stay away from him KNOWING what he has done.
There have been numbers of documentaries about the Catholic Church and molestation for years. Numerous priests have been convicted and thrown in prison. The Catholic Church has paid numerous settlements. The Catholic Churches numbers are declining. The previous pope, Pope Benedict retired early because of the scandal and the current pope, Pope Francis was suppose to do image rehabilitation.
@@laure-christelle9391 it is true because everything they said about the incident was wrong and disproved and they swore under oath so do your research and after he died they came out and said they lied because of money
@@tamarasky2043 First of all, I loved Mj at one point in my life, Okay? But truth is truth, he was guilty. Y'all talking about doing research, I have facts. I did my research. They swore under oath because they were manipulated. Nothing was disproved, the case was thrown out of court cause MJ is dead. You guys should listen to the accusers. The first one's life has been completely messed up and none of you moonwalkers tried to empathize? I root for the victims and it is because of money and pressure that they lied when they swore under oath.
Yes, people used exchange their children's hand in marriage for crops and herds of livestock. And if a King, Prince, Duke, Chief, Caliph, Caesar, Czar, ect. wanted your daughter as a wife, and offered the parents some money and land, they would hand her right over. Hell, even today, some places in the world marriages are business exchanges. I know a Muslim Sudanese woman whose Syrian Muslim husband paid her parents several hundreds thousands of dollars to marry her. She came from a middle class family, but now that her family properly invested that money, they are doing real good. They have some businesses, apartments, and land now.
Lord Jamar is correct! What we know about early homo sapiens (modern man 70 - 100k) there was no marriage... and homo sapiens are not necessarily defined as the dawn of man. I suspect with the birth of agriculture (about 12 - 23k years ago) when human were able to settle is where most traditions began and evolved. Before that there is no clear evidence that primates behaved any differently than other mammals... with no evidence they "pimped" out their children.
Vlad is missing the point completely. Yes she was 33. What does it matter the age. Are u tryna say older women dont get abused by men. It was clear r kelly went after women with a certain mind state. But lets not act like r kelly the only one. Some men do this in the world in general. It aint a crime. Whats a crime is the dirty foul shit he did with children
Ok not to be too real for you, but regardless of what age these women/ girls were or are, no one deserves to be taken advantage of!!!!! It should have started with Aaliyah!!!! If her parents were always with her, how in the hell did they manage to leave them and get married??? There are a lot of inconsistencies dealing with this whole thing!! No way would my 15 year old daughter marry a grown man ,and I not know about it!!! And to make matters worse, the parents never exposed him for what he did!!!! Wtf????? And so after that years later, he was found not guilty of making the sex tape!!! But yet in still his albums made plenty of money!!!! You can't fool me into thinking that no one knew he had a thing for young girls!!!! Everyone involved should be charged, because they allowed this to go on, and chose to sweep the fact that these were young girls under the rug!!! Which is total BS!!! Now, should R. Kelley be the only one exposed?? No, because plenty more just like him are right up under the radar, doing the same thing!!!!! Expose them all, whether black/ white, this sick shit has got to stop!!! I mean how long are we going to let predators keep preying on our children???? And the majority of the blame should be placed on the parents!!!! We are our kids first teachers, and they are young, and innocent, stop teaching your kids the wrong ethics, and values in order to survive/ make it in life!!!!! I truly feel sorry for all those he hurt, or mis treated, because no one should ever have to be done that way in order to seek out fame or fortune!!!! He needs help!!! And the help I'm describing is ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@gatorwoman6515 it was both. Dont get me wrong. There is no excuse for them going after him when they know his record. But lets not act like r kelly foul he knew what he was doing.
wenn you hear Lord Jamar the first couple times you thinkhis guy is messed up when you really start to listen this man got more sense then 90 percent of the industry seems to me 2 ;)
Why now? Because he fucked with the wrong girl. Timothy Savage is the one that brought about this shit. He the one that brought the victims together and went to lifetime with the deal. If R Kelly had never met Jocelyn Savage, we wouldn't be talking about this right now..
Preach! Lord Jamar, you are 500% correct about the "parents" taking their kids around him with his nasty history and Vlad(unfortunately) was 500% correct about the BS w/ the grown women that was with him who could have left at any time.🤔
Lord Jamar, if you were listening to the documentary, the question of why were Spacey, Weinstein, etc. were all catching hell but R. Kelly was the one that no one seemed to mention and we (as black folks) knew all about what he had been accused of doing and actually doing (marrying Aaliyah) weren't going after him. #MeToo
@@hustlaus , some states, the age of consent might at 17, but only with someone 3 or 5 years older, not sure of Georgia or Illinois. There is also stature of limitations, if Kelly still has been messing with underage girls, as young as 14, which many females said he continue to do even after the trial. There might be still grounds to prosecute on that even if they are 18+ now. However, R. Kelly did not just have sex with underage girls and kept them in the house. Many have mention that there was physical abuse. All it takes is one or two victims who still have some legal standings to press charges. That's why the district attorneys in the towns in Chicago and Atlanta are asking any females that been involved with him recently to come and contact them to see if they have a case.
@@LindaTran88 You're right but when you have a media network and the whole metoo /timesup movement trying to get someone put in jail with no proof of a crime, than I have a problem with that!! Before R. Kelly, they should go after catholic priests and the entire Vatican. But I guess R. Kelly is an easier soft target.
NBC used to have a show called "How To Catch a Predator" and mostly white males between the ages of 30-65 were caught trying to have sex with male and female minors. They got it cancelled for some bullshit reason and I bet you that they won't bring it back.
Artful Dodger Since every is asking where’s the {insert white name}documentary, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, dude from 7th Heaven - tell those grievances to the white community
hustlaus They have a whole channel dedicated to white criminality and people don’t even realize it...It’s called the ID channel....you can watch the ID channel all day and maybe 2 shows will involve non-white people...Watch a marathon of Snapped - nothing but white on white crime and sexual deviants all day long!
@@moneishab4996 You are absolutely right. I remember one Sunday my wife was watching an episode at about 1 PM and I joined her. We got so rapped up in it, the next thing we knew it was 6 PM. They talk that shit about Black on Black crime, they need to call that network the White on White Crime Network because the worst place for whites to be is next to a spouse with an updated insurance policy.
He's acting like the documentary was made within a month lol. dream hampton has been working on the r Kelly documentary for years. It just finally came out.
@@turkishwhiteout wouldn't be surprised if she's been working on it longer than ten years, because that r Kelly sex tape came out in the early 2000's. So yeah, you're probably correct
💯💯💯 pe·do·phil·i·a: sexual feelings directed toward children. stat·u·to·ry rape:sexual intercourse with a minor child: a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority. minor:a person who is not yet old enough to have the rights of an adult yes that person is a piece of shit, but both terms don't carry the same weight, if you fuck with children you need to die with your eyes open and left for the scavengers.
I can imagine back in the 90s , it was easier to leverage your stardom to get what you want and use power to suppress anything that you don’t want out there.
nrjappah true you right bro but still it a whole lot of white celebrities and people who have done if not worse then what R Kelly did but all you see in the world is them going after the black people. Hell treat everybody the same and lock all the asses up. Real talk
He said exactly what I did when they showed the series! Why was parents still taking their daughters to him?! We been knew about his actions back in the 90's. And why go so hard now that "others" are being outed?!
I'm from Milwaukee I have family in the Englewood project area. Parents used to force their daughters on him trying to get a check, but once the checks/ money stopped all of the charges started. Not saying rkelly doesn't need to be locked up because he does but what needs to happen is the interviews need to start focusing on the parents bc they the ones that basically sold their kids
So adult women are to blame if they are in an abusive relationship Vlad??? Was it in his wife's fault for falling in love with an abusive manipulative predator just because she was of legal age?
@@howardhill3588 so by your standards no one should be falling in love because that means if the person they love hits them or abuses them it's their own fault for agreeing to marry them? So then instead of putting men in jail the women who get abused by them should be the ones getting locked up then?
@@howardhill3588 so if my 6'2' husband of nine years decides to beat me to a pulp today out of the blue that somehow is my responsibility and he has no fault for putting his hands on me? Or if I don't divorce him the next day because we have a two-year-old daughter anything that happens after that is my fault as well?
Now you are making up a very extreme case....most of the time women know if a man has violent tendencies or not and still choose to be there so they are partially responsible when they know that...
@@howardhill3588Abuse IS extreme fam. You couldn't have seen the documentary then because it was way more extreme than my example...most of the time a women wouldn't become involved with someone they felt would be violent with them...a predator would never give themselves away right upfront.
I'm not trying to justify R.kellys actions at all I thinks he's a monster. However , we also talk about abuse like it's black 'n' white, saying stuff like " you can always leave you don't have to stay" like I get it you don't have to. but I think we often dismiss the psychological effects of abuse ...these women were probably easy to corrupt, influence , and probably insecure like for a predator those types of traits are desirable
Women are in abusive relationships everyday and can't get away alot of women end up dead. I think it shows alot of short sightness in vlad and jamars views on the older women who were abused
Lord Jamar sounds like hes uninformed and sounds ignorant. You do know the shows top producers are black right? The person behind the idea for the show is black, you do know that right lord jamar?
No, the one who referenced the rooms in the house was a teenager at the time. He only dated one 33 year old for 3 years because he thought she looked younger. Then there was his grown wife.
Within the same week this series came out one of Harvey’s case was dropped and barely anybody noticed. Michael Jackson, Chris brown, Kobe, Usher just to name a few are next in this diversion.
When money and fame is involved morals go out the window...
Big facts!!!
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Not to mention we normalized scumbaggery
The Grind Why? To who much is given alot more is expected. This is a man blessed w a talent and a family background rich with music. He chose to miss use it. Sorry not sorry.
U aint lien
How about surviving the pope?
A fucking men. How about the catholic church?
The powers that be will never let damaging proof known to mainstream
@@josephmcdonald9933 how bout we don't do "what about"s? Fuck anyone who tryna have sex with kids, period. Let's be grown ups about this shit. Stop deflecting on behalf of a child predator.
@@SaintMu How about let's lock up and put all of these predators on blast black or white
Long ass documentary.
Shows you that people would do anything for money
Yeah even sell their own kids just to make a profit I get what u mean.
BIG facts!
Shows you that Jamar would do anything to blame "white people". Guy cannot go 15 minutes without crying about being oppressed. Fairly sure this dude has been in movies and if he owns any of his publishing is probably set for life from his Brand Nubian money, yet he'll continue to live with blatant hatred for the rest of his life, sad.
Stephen Ahern he’s just stating facts nobody will state because they don’t wanna be “that black guy” to people like you. I understand your statement tho but if he’s stating facts shit he’s just saying what’s real. I know it won’t concern you tho
Mike Varga that other famous white people are not even getting called out and prosecuted but R Kelly is. Not saying anything he did was right but you can’t deny that
I'm glad Lord Jamar checked Vlad on the "Since the dawn of time" bs
Kyle Addy exactly
@Jay Chamorro You mean Russians?? Naaa....pimping your kids out is a very American thing. White American, African American, Latino American, all of your people would pimp your kids out for some of that fame and fortune. Just look at the whole Michael Jackson thing...you dont see much of that shit happening outside of America.
The dollar is the most important thing to all of you, no matter what colour your skin is you are all the same...American
Sex slavery still happening right now in Africa
How is that BS? Vlad talks about actual documented human behaviours and Jamar retorts with fantasies. How is that checking anyone?
@Jay Chamorro u fuckup lls but u right thou lls
There needs to be a Netflix Series called SURVIVING. And each episode would focus on a different predator. Surviving Harvey Weinstein, Surviving Jimmy Page, Surviving Jerry Lee Lewis, etc etc...
I agree! We know R Kelly is a scumbag, but there are many more like him in the entertainment industry, that may very well be even more of a scumbag than he is and they should be held accountable also! They should all be held accountable regardless of their ethnicity!
Throw a couple women predators on there too
I think they do. Not on lifetime though. I forgot what channel
@@Musashi139 agreed bc they exist
Agree 100% w/ this post
Surviving Steven Tyler from Aerosmith
I forgot VH1 was really like the white music channel...that shit changed over night
Fax
White people took over hip hop and turn it into bullshit
MTV as well. Even David Bowie’s white ass called the out for it lol
I think Flavor of love might've helped start the shift for vh1
After that 1st flava of love
This just goes to show how many people choose money over morals.
So Dreaaa Facts...
I was more-so referring to when he was in his prime and everyone knew what he was doing, but turned a blind eye. No need for the vulgar language sir !!!
So Dreaaa I’m sorry about Markus’s language...u good beautiful?
BIG DRU I’m good..thanks for asking ☺️
Nailon Ross Lol where are we going ?
Lord Jamar took the words out of my mouth. “Why now?!”
EXACTLY!
There have been trials over the years but he was never convicted. I see nothing wrong with continuing to fight for justice.
Linda Tran #Firstthem
Because of the #metoo movement.
better "now" than never
I had the same exact questions while watching the doc, but if you question the situation/scandal then you are victim blaming. I just don't get it.
Yes this is too true and it’s stopping people from reaching a better solution... locking rkelly away doesn’t solve the issue because there are rkellys everywhere and if young women are out here seeking older men they will eventually get what they are looking for smh so sad man :(
Thought the same thing 10 minutes into doc. I don't think I lasted a half hour on the show
Don't let anybody shame you for using your common sense
Questioning these people's mindset in no way belittles the despicible role that R plays in this
Fuck that keep it real. Shit weeds out the BS artists screaming victim over the REAL victims
Beyoncé‘s father and Destiny’s Childmanager, Mathew Knowles, kept a close watch on the group when they worked with R. Kelly. In a new interview with Metro UK, Knowles, 67, said that members Beyoncé, Kelly Rowland, LaTavia Roberson, and LeToya Luckett didn’t leave his sight.
“I was there and my former wife, Tina, was there,” he told the outlet. “The thing with R. Kelly was, he liked to record late at night, around midnight. And what was different with his studio was that one room had a recording suite, and next door was a club, with 40 or 50 people dancing.”
He continued, “The girls were 15, 16. When they went to the bathroom, Tina would go with them,” he said. “They did not leave our eyes.”
R. Kelly’s sexual misconduct allegations span 25 years, from his alleged “cult” to his relationship with a then 15-year-old Aaliyah.
And while Knowles said the song never made it to the girls’ album because he felt it wasn’t good enough, he admitted that the rumors surrounding the “Ignition” singer, now 52, did affect his decision.
I know r. Kelly was waiting for the parents to slip for just 1 second 😂😂😂
Did he keep a close eye on Jay-Z when he was creeping on her when she was underage!
@@aarong3000 Great question 🤔. I think they needed his leverage he had Lyor Cohen of Def Jam. Probably close with the ppl at Sony. When Beyonce dropped her debut solo albun in 2003. Sony shelfed all their poping female acts for her it was the craziest thing at the time. Thanks to Jay Z and Lyor swaying the execs at Sony to do so 🤷♂️
Get a life
So they knew what was going on and they still decided to work with that man! It's crazy.. the weird, nasty, demonic shit that goes on in Hollywood!
For the love of money is the root of all evil
TheMr2face nah brah it’s not
@@hiitsme3039 it is
yes it is @@hiitsme3039
@@bazar_rawness805 maybe he likes that kind of a thing. U don't know 😂😂
So true!! 💯 People tend to leave the "for the love" part out a lot.
He was found not Guilty. People gave their kids to R Kelly for the same reason people would take their kids to Michael Jackson's house after his allegations. Stardom.
Edit: I love how everyone in my comments is trying to justify why it's okay to leave your child at Michael Jackson's house vs R Kellys (both complete strangers)
Parents who want to exploit their kids....
Damn🤔 you are right.....
@R. Kelly White kids went to Michael Jacksons house too.
MJ didn’t have hard proof and dozens of people with the same exact story’s dummy. Both the kids That tried to get MJ later came out and said it was for money
The kids with mj later came after they was grown n said their parents forced them to say those things
Vlad never put out videos with such urgency. Tryna capitalize off the Kellz situation for sure.
He actually does tho...
Goose Down if you could you would
Why not? Everybody else doing it
I have to agree with vlad them grown ass woman allowing r Kelly to abuse them could of easily fought back and call the cops unlike these underage victims
You heard what they were saying. After accepting all the abuse and doing all the freaky shit he wanted them to do, they left, but not until they found out there were others.
Yes one chick said we need to differentiate the victims from the 'volunteers'...
What makes you think none of the underage girls could fight back or call the cops?
They are sharing their story to prove he is a disgusting controlling aggressive sick human being period.
Monique G they didn't looked like slaves at his concert 👀😂 use that giant as head of yours
Super fan = thot
Super fan = groupie
Super fan = bustdown
Super fan = I’ll do anything
Super fan = smh
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She don't wanna be saved. Don't save her!!!
Don't forget a flipper and a jumpoff.
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Hopeless in Nyc not if their parents gave consent
Such a great point. I'm so sick of these so called victims or their parents taking no responsibility. Where is the surviving Charley Sheen documentary?
Vlad, it's called spousal abuse. Sit down with a group of women and find out the reasons they don't leave. Go to a women's shelter.
Thanks for the uploads!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Vlad, you can be 13 or 35 and you can still be manipulated into a toxic, hurtful and beaten to death relationship.. AND STILL.. Some women can't let go of their perpetrator. THOSE ARE FACTS. Get some stats on Abuse on men and women and you will see is very common.
Someone needs to pin your comment. The ignorance and insensitivity in this clip disgusts me.
Mai221989 if this occurred after the tape came out u have no legitimate excuse. You’re shacked up with a known sexual deviant. The Stockholm syndrome cop out only works for people forced in their situation. Any woman or girl with sense would stay away from him KNOWING what he has done.
I like the way Lord Jamar thinks!
Surviving the Roman Catholic church????🤔🤔🤔🤔😞🤔
There have been numbers of documentaries about the Catholic Church and molestation for years. Numerous priests have been convicted and thrown in prison. The Catholic Church has paid numerous settlements. The Catholic Churches numbers are declining. The previous pope, Pope Benedict retired early because of the scandal and the current pope, Pope Francis was suppose to do image rehabilitation.
@@HappyRoach1 those facts don't really fit the narrative he was going for so could you please stop?
Good point
They scared to touch that one
Lord Jamar is The Best Guest To Come On Vlad And Speak What's Real Wit No Tampering Just Straight Facts💯💯💯
Micheal Jackson is innocent
Michael Jackson made a very stupid decision to continue to allow little kids to sleep over at his house after the first allegations came out.
Right !!!
Not true. New doc gon prove he was guilty as sin
@@laure-christelle9391 it is true because everything they said about the incident was wrong and disproved and they swore under oath so do your research and after he died they came out and said they lied because of money
@@tamarasky2043 First of all, I loved Mj at one point in my life, Okay? But truth is truth, he was guilty. Y'all talking about doing research, I have facts. I did my research. They swore under oath because they were manipulated. Nothing was disproved, the case was thrown out of court cause MJ is dead. You guys should listen to the accusers. The first one's life has been completely messed up and none of you moonwalkers tried to empathize? I root for the victims and it is because of money and pressure that they lied when they swore under oath.
Lord Jamar SPEAKING REAL FACTS
Lord jamar doesn't understand parents HAVE BEEN PIMPING OUT THEIR kids since the dawn of Man.....thats how marriage got started
Yes, people used exchange their children's hand in marriage for crops and herds of livestock. And if a King, Prince, Duke, Chief, Caliph, Caesar, Czar, ect. wanted your daughter as a wife, and offered the parents some money and land, they would hand her right over. Hell, even today, some places in the world marriages are business exchanges. I know a Muslim Sudanese woman whose Syrian Muslim husband paid her parents several hundreds thousands of dollars to marry her. She came from a middle class family, but now that her family properly invested that money, they are doing real good. They have some businesses, apartments, and land now.
Lord Jamar is correct! What we know about early homo sapiens (modern man 70 - 100k) there was no marriage... and homo sapiens are not necessarily defined as the dawn of man. I suspect with the birth of agriculture (about 12 - 23k years ago) when human were able to settle is where most traditions began and evolved. Before that there is no clear evidence that primates behaved any differently than other mammals... with no evidence they "pimped" out their children.
He is talkin as far as the music industry though
Vlad is missing the point completely. Yes she was 33. What does it matter the age. Are u tryna say older women dont get abused by men. It was clear r kelly went after women with a certain mind state. But lets not act like r kelly the only one. Some men do this in the world in general. It aint a crime. Whats a crime is the dirty foul shit he did with children
Ok not to be too real for you, but regardless of what age these women/ girls were or are, no one deserves to be taken advantage of!!!!! It should have started with Aaliyah!!!! If her parents were always with her, how in the hell did they manage to leave them and get married??? There are a lot of inconsistencies dealing with this whole thing!! No way would my 15 year old daughter marry a grown man ,and I not know about it!!! And to make matters worse, the parents never exposed him for what he did!!!! Wtf????? And so after that years later, he was found not guilty of making the sex tape!!! But yet in still his albums made plenty of money!!!! You can't fool me into thinking that no one knew he had a thing for young girls!!!! Everyone involved should be charged, because they allowed this to go on, and chose to sweep the fact that these were young girls under the rug!!! Which is total BS!!! Now, should R. Kelley be the only one exposed?? No, because plenty more just like him are right up under the radar, doing the same thing!!!!! Expose them all, whether black/ white, this sick shit has got to stop!!! I mean how long are we going to let predators keep preying on our children???? And the majority of the blame should be placed on the parents!!!! We are our kids first teachers, and they are young, and innocent, stop teaching your kids the wrong ethics, and values in order to survive/ make it in life!!!!! I truly feel sorry for all those he hurt, or mis treated, because no one should ever have to be done that way in order to seek out fame or fortune!!!! He needs help!!! And the help I'm describing is ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@msblackishere im gonna keep it 100 with you. Im not reading all that.
JJ all day lmaooooo
JJ all day
R. KELLY went after women? Or was it the other way around.
@@gatorwoman6515 it was both. Dont get me wrong. There is no excuse for them going after him when they know his record. But lets not act like r kelly foul he knew what he was doing.
I don't understand for the life of me why aren't the parents being questioned about what their motives were, they sold their children.
Lord jamar speaking knowledge I would have never even thought of.
Call 'em out Lord Jamar! Get 'em all!
wenn you hear Lord Jamar the first couple times you thinkhis guy is messed up when you really start to listen this man got more sense then 90 percent of the industry seems to me 2 ;)
Guess this gone be a full R Kelly segment
On God I said the same shit!!!
Why now? Because he fucked with the wrong girl. Timothy Savage is the one that brought about this shit. He the one that brought the victims together and went to lifetime with the deal. If R Kelly had never met Jocelyn Savage, we wouldn't be talking about this right now..
Preach! Lord Jamar, you are 500% correct about the "parents" taking their kids around him with his nasty history and Vlad(unfortunately) was 500% correct about the BS w/ the grown women that was with him who could have left at any time.🤔
When everything is said and done there’s more to it that meets the 👀
Lord Jamar, if you were listening to the documentary, the question of why were Spacey, Weinstein, etc. were all catching hell but R. Kelly was the one that no one seemed to mention and we (as black folks) knew all about what he had been accused of doing and actually doing (marrying Aaliyah) weren't going after him. #MeToo
@@hustlaus , some states, the age of consent might at 17, but only with someone 3 or 5 years older, not sure of Georgia or Illinois. There is also stature of limitations, if Kelly still has been messing with underage girls, as young as 14, which many females said he continue to do even after the trial. There might be still grounds to prosecute on that even if they are 18+ now. However, R. Kelly did not just have sex with underage girls and kept them in the house. Many have mention that there was physical abuse. All it takes is one or two victims who still have some legal standings to press charges. That's why the district attorneys in the towns in Chicago and Atlanta are asking any females that been involved with him recently to come and contact them to see if they have a case.
@@hustlaus "so called mind manipulation is not illegal"... Keep in mind just cause something is legal, doesn't necessarily make it right.
@@LindaTran88 You're right but when you have a media network and the whole metoo /timesup movement trying to get someone put in jail with no proof of a crime, than I have a problem with that!! Before R. Kelly, they should go after catholic priests and the entire Vatican. But I guess R. Kelly is an easier soft target.
@@hustlaus it's gonna be hard to go after R. Kelly, don't you worry.
I agree 100% ! Where the hell is everybody else 's documentary's
So why don’t y’all ask Barbara Walters and Diana Sawyer to make a documentary on the white predators
Lol huh why would someone have to ASK them
NBC used to have a show called "How To Catch a Predator" and mostly white males between the ages of 30-65 were caught trying to have sex with male and female minors. They got it cancelled for some bullshit reason and I bet you that they won't bring it back.
Artful Dodger Since every is asking where’s the {insert white name}documentary, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, dude from 7th Heaven - tell those grievances to the white community
hustlaus They have a whole channel dedicated to white criminality and people don’t even realize it...It’s called the ID channel....you can watch the ID channel all day and maybe 2 shows will involve non-white people...Watch a marathon of Snapped - nothing but white on white crime and sexual deviants all day long!
@@moneishab4996 You are absolutely right. I remember one Sunday my wife was watching an episode at about 1 PM and I joined her. We got so rapped up in it, the next thing we knew it was 6 PM. They talk that shit about Black on Black crime, they need to call that network the White on White Crime Network because the worst place for whites to be is next to a spouse with an updated insurance policy.
thank you Lord JAjmar the only reason I still watch
He's acting like the documentary was made within a month lol. dream hampton has been working on the r Kelly documentary for years. It just finally came out.
Anthony Finley u sure it wasn’t decades?
@@turkishwhiteout wouldn't be surprised if she's been working on it longer than ten years, because that r Kelly sex tape came out in the early 2000's. So yeah, you're probably correct
Maybe he had an ad in the newspaper as a certified babysitter.
Some people really let money run them into some crazy situations
I love the Lord Jamar videos...
Y’all mistaking pedophilia with statutory rape
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pe·do·phil·i·a: sexual feelings directed toward children.
stat·u·to·ry rape:sexual intercourse with a minor
child: a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
minor:a person who is not yet old enough to have the rights of an adult
yes that person is a piece of shit, but both terms don't carry the same weight, if you fuck with children you need to die with your eyes open and left for the scavengers.
Lord Jamar will live long........cause I give strong blows to the heads of my foes💪🏿
I knew lord Jamar would keep it real
I can imagine back in the 90s , it was easier to leverage your stardom to get what you want and use power to suppress anything that you don’t want out there.
Shit most of them wanted to be artists but didn’t have the talent CLOUT CHASING ISNT AMYTHIMG NEW
JO PILOT since the beginning of time
I’d be cool if this interview were just 12 whole parts of Jamar roasting R Kelly, fr
R made em Do sumn strange 4 a peice a change lol
Martin Lawrence voice.
Lord Jamar keeps it 100!
both y'all are not versed in the psychology of abuse and are spouting off some BS in this one though...
Lord Jamar is a wonderful man, intelligent, courageous, and righteous.
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Keep it 100 Jamar!!
Why do people always compare race? R Kelly needs to be in prison period.
nrjappah true you right bro but still it a whole lot of white celebrities and people who have done if not worse then what R Kelly did but all you see in the world is them going after the black people. Hell treat everybody the same and lock all the asses up. Real talk
Vulnerability has no age...
Hollywood is where all the pimps go to get rich!! Don’t take my word for it tho
EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!
*You can tell black people hate having to cancel R. Kelly, they gonna fight to keep Michael* 😂
@Kathryn Dorsey 😂
Channel 97 White people hate having to cancel Elvis Presley.Yall gonna fight to keep his legacy alive.But he was having sex with 12 to 16 year olds😂
@@tyrn25 Yall? Fuck Elvis, that OG culture vulture 😂
@Kathryn Dorsey Huh the new MJ documentary gonna prove y'all wrong!
What a good point as a parent lord jamar 💯
Lord Jamar is talking to guy who does documentaries. Vlad could do a surviving ......
He said exactly what I did when they showed the series! Why was parents still taking their daughters to him?! We been knew about his actions back in the 90's. And why go so hard now that "others" are being outed?!
You can still be victimized regardless your age
I'm from Milwaukee I have family in the Englewood project area. Parents used to force their daughters on him trying to get a check, but once the checks/ money stopped all of the charges started. Not saying rkelly doesn't need to be locked up because he does but what needs to happen is the interviews need to start focusing on the parents bc they the ones that basically sold their kids
28 minutes in and yall still gossiping about R. Kelly and blaming his victims. Smh.
@@keezemojito1278 W
Vlad why is this video blocked...says not available on my device...I tried another phone as well as firestick...all other videos work....what's good?
So adult women are to blame if they are in an abusive relationship Vlad??? Was it in his wife's fault for falling in love with an abusive manipulative predator just because she was of legal age?
Aisha Mayfield Dioum yes it is lol who else fault would it be ?
@@howardhill3588 so by your standards no one should be falling in love because that means if the person they love hits them or abuses them it's their own fault for agreeing to marry them? So then instead of putting men in jail the women who get abused by them should be the ones getting locked up then?
@@howardhill3588 so if my 6'2' husband of nine years decides to beat me to a pulp today out of the blue that somehow is my responsibility and he has no fault for putting his hands on me? Or if I don't divorce him the next day because we have a two-year-old daughter anything that happens after that is my fault as well?
Now you are making up a very extreme case....most of the time women know if a man has violent tendencies or not and still choose to be there so they are partially responsible when they know that...
@@howardhill3588Abuse IS extreme fam. You couldn't have seen the documentary then because it was way more extreme than my example...most of the time a women wouldn't become involved with someone they felt would be violent with them...a predator would never give themselves away right upfront.
Every time you ask that question people say You're victim-blaming, which is bullshit
I'm not trying to justify R.kellys actions at all I thinks he's a monster. However , we also talk about abuse like it's black 'n' white, saying stuff like " you can always leave you don't have to stay" like I get it you don't have to. but I think we often dismiss the psychological effects of abuse ...these women were probably easy to corrupt, influence , and probably insecure like for a predator those types of traits are desirable
Nah.
Nice try tho A for effort
I agree 100% but Frank Camacho says you're wrong and we all know how important his opinion is...
@@BluntforceJ lmao someone's mad.
@@frankcamacho4601 someone thinks he matters enough to make someone mad. lol lmao abcdefg
Thank you Lord jamar for keepin' it 💯0.
Interviewer failed this. He did NO research into manipulation and abuse. Sheesh. Ignorance
Exactly. This is pure ignorance. Disgusting.
Can u make this into a cartoon lord Jamal voice 😂🤣😂🤣
On some real Father shit he shoulda been dead before Aaliyah think about it.R-Kelly? No Dead Kelly!!!!
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#bigduttyfacts
Francine Hines pretty smile 😉
BRUH, yesterday they were showing the R KELLY doc on the HISTORY channel where I'm from☝️☝️
Women are in abusive relationships everyday and can't get away alot of women end up dead. I think it shows alot of short sightness in vlad and jamars views on the older women who were abused
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Kevin spacey has a case on his head sooo
I love jamar take on things
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I can count how many times on one hand the amount in which I agree with Lord Jamar. Adding 1 more to the list.
Lord Jamar sounds like hes uninformed and sounds ignorant. You do know the shows top producers are black right? The person behind the idea for the show is black, you do know that right lord jamar?
so what..jews always use blacks to tear down another always been that way. i guarantee whoever produced this is a feminist.
Lord you are on point. Peace to the God!
Preach!!! This whole situation is shady!!! I always thought something was off.
R Kelly- My mind's telliin me nooooo! Chris Hansen- But you see how this looks Kelz?
YEA LORD JAMAR HOLDING IT DOWN FOR THE CULTURE AND KEEPING MORALS ALIVE!
Vlads dose of reality was refreshing
This is the question people are scared to ask because they don’t want to seem like they are “ victim blaming” or called an “ apologist “.
Ok Lord Jamar. Talk that talk. 👍
No, the one who referenced the rooms in the house was a teenager at the time. He only dated one 33 year old for 3 years because he thought she looked younger. Then there was his grown wife.
Clearly nobody knows what a pedophile is.
This is the question I've been asking.....
The kind of Parent that wanted to be famous themselves and they will get it through there kids at any cost.
EXCELLENT QUESTION
AMEN!! Gosh he couldn't have said it any better smh.
Never knew the dude from Aerosmith was like this. No headlines on this at all.
U speak da truth dats y we love u Vladtv glee!!
Okay. Drop the full interview already Vlad.
Thank u!!!!! Love lord jamar he speaks facts!!!!
Within the same week this series came out one of Harvey’s case was dropped and barely anybody noticed. Michael Jackson, Chris brown, Kobe, Usher just to name a few are next in this diversion.
If you are or were a victim that should make u more sympathetic for someone not to go through the same thing