I did in fact think of you every time I saw it I would quietly scream "RED LIIIIGHT" and I almost forgot the OG Myers in real life is or was a Dentist office so no one lives there lol buuut just thought I'd share
I think they need to burn down the Meyers house because he always goes back. I feel like if they destroy his home he wont have anything to go back for. We always thought it was for his sister, but we was always brought to his sister.
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I overall liked the hospital scene. I thought it was a very realistic way of showing how misinformation spreads so quickly. It really does happen like that.
I didn't mind it but damn that dude was fr like a hobbit and Mike is like over 6 feet tall like how do you get them confused 😂😂 this movie quite possibly had the worst characters I've seen, I was actually cheering for their deaths 😅 everything else was awesome
That scene was so realistic and I felt bad for the guy who just wanted help. I have seen moments like that were the mob is so locked on to that being Michael that their brains stopped working. If that would have been Michael, he would not run at all.
There's a video on youtube where they do a social experiment. The 1st person says something and the next would repeat it down the line. The last thing said wasn't even close to what was originally said. I'm sure y'all get the point lol
@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 I def feel the "Holy shit, my mind is fucking with me so hard!" but at the same time, I feel like new wind Michael could've came back and just fucked things up again
@@CaptVooDooGaming thank you, I believe them killing her off, even when they were sending us so many clues that she would be the next killer, is absolutely amazing
I think this was just another moment where he was bullied as you could imagine that he probably wasn't just bullied that one time. Plus that was in the day time this moment occurred at night.
@@B1Kobe0824 when loomis scared him through the bushes was at night. (In the original 1978 film) In the script for Halloween Kills, the scene continues with the other kids making fun of Lonnie right after the Loomis scene (from 1978). However, in the movie, they don't show Loomis and the scene has totally different dialogue with the kids.
Another Easter Egg/Reference: At the end, Laurie is talking about how Michael spreads fear and turns people mad. She says “THAT is the true CURSE of Michael Myers” just a little reference to Halloween 6
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@@zZiL341yRj736 well after that innocent mans death a lot of people probably thought damn i just got him killed i feel like an animal also everyone knew damn well they weren’t stopping Michael cmon now
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To me, that inmate scene was to show that regardless of what he was locked up for, he is just scared deep down and has a deep psychological side just like any other normal killer. However Michael, while also being locked up at Smith’s Grove, does not have that psychological side, he’s just pure evil. In a way, you feel bad for the inmate because you see he has a soul but there’s no way to feel bad for Michael. I think it really shows a clear difference between Michael just being a mental patient and him being the embodiment of evil
Couldn’t agree more, the whole dynamic of his character was to reflect peoples mentality when blinded by rage, and the difference between someone that can be helped, and can’t!!
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@@jrtaylor1010 because rage isn’t the intent of the character stupid lol.. rage is more of an emotional, human reaction.. Michael is pure evil .. he’s more emotionless than emotional .. now rob zombie’s Michael Myers was all about “rage”. That version was just a pyschopath due to bullying a bad childhood.
I think this movie shows perfectly how relentless Michael is even after he is getting beaten by a group of people, shot and stabbed he still murdered them all and just gave the feeling of hopelessness
They even showed a moment where bracket heard the name and it got his attention and he said Laurie. Thought it was setting up for a scene eventually. And then Nothing 🤦🏻♂️
@@laurajane110 I have a feeling this is one of those movies where it's best form is the director's cut, watching the Peacock cut, I kept getting the impression some scenes were cut out, or finished too early while the scene was still digesting. I'll watch the movie again after that point and see how I feel then.
I'll be honest Chris, the two things I liked in this movie was the closing shot with Michael standing in Judith's room looking out the window with the blue lighting in the background and seeing Loomis back during the flashbacks.
My parents have this on going joke about how Laurie and Micheal will be in a nursing home going at each other in wheelchairs because of how long this series as gone on. Super excited for the next movie! I loved Halloween Kills.
"I've got this knife." "I've got this knife." So bad! Instead of getting themselves needlessly slaughtered, it would have been much scarier if they tried calling 911 but couldn't get any officers to assist them because they're all tied up dealing with the hospital mob and so went upstairs to investigate on their own. Then at least you can't call them completely dumb
I actually enjoyed the Karen death. You want to know why? it's symbolic. Not only did they use a similar style to when he did that kill with his sister, it's a call back to how she basically said she was just like his sister and innocent. When she stands in the window, he is pulled back into the moment when he is six years old and he brutally cuts her down. As for how he got in? I'll gesture to the entire franchise as a whole as Michael has been able to get into places he shouldn't and yet it works for him.
I think there’s a time jump from when Karen leaves Micheal to Micheal killing everyone then entering through the house back door and waiting or something
I was thinking it was symbolic. As in she is watching as Micheal cuts away at her sanity, and she becomes corrupted by his influence and will help him in Halloween Ends. I don’t think she is dead.
I feel like some of the scenes don’t get enough credit like when Michael stepped out of Laurie’s house while it was burning just facing the firefighters standing their to me was incredible and also when he was surrounded in the street and puts his mask back on those 2 scenes were amazing to me
bro. Karen’s death is a direct homage to Psycho. the “random” edits aren’t random at all, it’s like shot for shot assembled the same way Janet Leigh was cut up by Bates.
My opinion, I REALLY enjoyed the movie up until the last scene when Michael snaps back and kills everyone. I feel like it has to be a dream sequence. so many major players quickly taken out without any moment to themselves or anything. Hawkins surviving was a huge W because I loved his character and it seems there is more to explored with him and Laurie... I am intrigued by halloween ends and where the story is taken. oh btw LOVED the Michael design in this as well as the flashback scenes
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"Evil dies tonight" "This ends tonight" "Tonight, Michael Myers dies". They said that shit so many times, I got so annoyed with it. I was like alright just shut the fuck up about it and do it already
I personally loved the brutality of the kills and the chilling mood throughout. At first impression I thought the mob acted so dumb, but given all the events happened on the same night and everyone was charged up with adrenaline, I kinda understand the bad decisions made.
Totally agree! Instead of trying to come up with slick and gimmicky kill scenes, they just stuck with showing Michael's strength and brutality, it was definitely more impactful.
Well to be fair, you wouldn't make rational or logical decisions in that moment either. The theme of this movie was mass hysteria, a phenomenon in which a community transmits illusions of threat, whether real or fake, amongst other members of said community.
@@zZiL341yRj736 Michaels been around for 40 years, but he was only seen publicly back in the first movies timeline. After that event, he was locked up for 40 years, away from the public. Basically nobody remembers how he looks like anymore except for the severely traumatized victims like Laurie. Plus, those townspeople don’t know how strong & durable Michael is. Tbh, the mob mentality and how every character reacted makes sense. Y’all just think they have no logic bc you’re not in their shoes.
I just went with my 13 year old brother. This was his first scary movie in theaters and woah it didn’t disappoint. We had a fun time and will definitely rewatch it on Peacock this weekend. The mob scene at the hospital broke my heart. I can’t imagine what was going through that poor man’s head before he decided to jump. Michael must hate cheating because Cameron truly had the slowest and most painful death in the entire movie. I definitely didn’t expect Karen to get stabbed and maybe die. I expected the Strode women to be untouchable
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My favorite scene was when Little John walks upstairs to find his boyfriend dead and Michael looking out the window for him to say. "Michael...Your Home." Plenty of people are going to complain about how he didn't run but for me it seemed like he knew he wasn't getting away.
Agreed. I stayed up late and watched it, even though I had work at 6am lol. Totally worth it. This is my new favorite Halloween movie. Gonna watch it again tonight!
I think it made sense that Mike was able to sneak back into his home despite all of the police and personnel around. That's what he does. Dude knows how to sneak lol
I bet that he took a little longer route around police etc. And went in through the backdoor. But I wonder what happened after he went to town on Karen, the bodies where still in the house, like did he slay them all or just hiding in a closet until they were done? 🤔
I'm positive when Tommy shows up at the gas station to rally the random townsfolk together, while they're gathered around and he says "we have to get the guy" you see Micheal walk right behind them all barely see him!
@@hideandpride1891 that sucks then. Because in the movie Allison and all the paramedics were at the house, then Karen walks upstairs to look out the window and then Michael kills her. Makes no sense. How did he get in the house without anyone seeing?
I loved the inclusion of the inmate. I was wondering if any of the other escapees would play a factor, and I think it was clear this one was mentally ill and I really felt for him. It added a psychological factor that you don't see in many slashers. I also have a theory that Michael is cursed by killing Judith or something is up with that house, like it took his soul or something. After surviving that beating, Michael is obviously somehow cursed. And how did Karen know what young Michael look like or that he was dressed like a clown when he killed Judith?
@@markmagician2471 The comics aren't canon and that's kind of how it was in the original sequels. The Curse of Thorn is what it was called, it was a curse put on him as a child to kill everyone in his bloodline.
you know something... she might be back for 2 reasons. 1 Laurie trained her to survive who's to say she didnt?? i mean look at Laurie she surived halloween 1 1978 despite being stabbed having her leg broken and almost being strangled. and 2 perhaps in the same way i thought hawkins was dead in the 2018 movie turns out hes alive in this one maybe it will be the same for Karen!!
It honestly annoyed a bit when Karen had Michael on the ground with his head on one of the stairs. She stomped on his head like twice and ran away. She could've continued and possibly broke his neck. His head was elevated so he was in a good position to get his neck broken. I understand that she had a plan with the other residents of the city but like if you have the chance to kill him, take it. Ignore the rest of the plan.
She can't kill Michael because there wont be a next movie if Michael dies. Just like the Avengers could have beaten Thanos but have to lose because there won't be an Avengers Endgame if they had won in Infinity War.
Did you notice the scene when Tommy was telling his story in the bar and when he mentioned Annie Brackett, they actually showed a few seconds of footage of her and Sheriff Brackett from Halloween 2!
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That makes no sense because Blumhouse wiped everything from the canon except the original Halloween so why show something that doesn't even matter anymore
@@LowKiiSavage i mean that had to have happened regardless, cause like this one it took place immediately after Halloween 1978, its just one of those scenes where it can fit in either movie
Wouldn’t shock me if Tommy Doyle survived - they seemed to deliberately avoid showing Michael actually bash him in too - I could see him as the sole survivor who has to cope with how he led all those people to their deaths while possibly also being disabled from his injuries
I really didn't like the new older Tommy Doyles acting i felt like he was on a whole other page than the rest of the cast. I felt like it just wasn't the same Tommy like it is with Laurie strode
I saw in the extended cut he def had to have died. Lots more blood and guts went flying, but maybe they recut it since they finished h ends before kills was released
@@Sjb99-f1s well they did stab officer hawkins deep in the throat and rab over the dude on top of that . Talk about painful. I don't see how he didn't get squished to death or at the very least loose oxygen/ have his chest and lungs be broken .
I Honestly think Michael Myers Killing Karen Strode is a fakeout, kinda like how in the ending of Halloween 4, we saw Jamie Lloyd kill her Foster Mom, but then Halloween 5 revealed that never happened. Also I think it would be a Major Plot hole for Karen to be killed off unless if everyone else at the Myers house including Allyson had died to Michael as well.
@@toodank23_21 i didn't mind karen dying. I actually want michael to kill laurie and her granddaughter too. And all the legacy characters. I want michael to come out on top at halloween ends.
Jamie tries to kill her foster mom it's canon but in the sequel to that film she really doesn't it does happen tho lmao. I think micheal killing karen isn't a fakeout because it felt right she was always like "gotcha" everytime she came up against him but finally and since he doesn't speak he "got" her back. It gives laurie perfect motive to team up with her grand daughter and her highschool sweetheart and stage a comeback against micheal. I don't think it'll be the end unless it has something to do with the timing
I just finished watching the movie, and im amazed. I can understand why some people wouldn't like the movie, but I absolutely LOVED it. I can't say its the best Halloween movie ever made, but it sure its my favorite out of all of them, its the first I watch on theaters and it will hold a special place on my heart. I can't wait for Halloween Ends to finish this story.
I love how they made him more of a monster and less human. It makes him more formidable and un killable. I also loved the kills they seemed more gore and more like Jason type kills rather than just stabs and chokes
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Here are my thoughts on the film: The way that Laurie took a back seat for this one was rlly good. It gave way for new characters, for new stories, for old stories even to be completed, for long lost characters to return and face down the evil that is Michael Myers. The story was very great, but the execution maybe could've been a bit better. A problem I did have was with how rushed things felt and how enclosed you felt watching. Like you'll be following this small (and I mean SMALL) group of old characters which is great but they were out hunting Michael for no longer than 10-20 mins by themselves and getting a few of them killed off right away was a bit dissapointing. But that was also something I did like abt this movie was the suspense and fear u felt for characters. No one was safe and I loved it, kept me on the edge of my seat. The trailer gave of this feeling that Haddonfield would be going after Michael in LARGE numbers and he would absolutely DEMOLISH everything and everyone in his path so that was a bit of a letdown. The way he acted and the way he went around doing his thing though was really a big pro for me. The actor absolutely nails Michael as a character and the originality you feel coming from this Michael is wonderful. This is for sure the most brutal Michael we've had for a while since Rob Zombie's Halloween and I loved every single kill and every single second of it. When he was onscreen I felt the fear, the intimidation and wondering if his victims will get away or not. I am a bit mixed on the ending and how I thought it was REALLY good, it did feel quite abrupt and I am actually only talking abt the final kill spree he has at the end with that large group. Wasn't a fan of the death of Karen but I kind of understand why they had to do that. Here are my deeper thoughts into the movie and why that, beside a few clear flaws, this I one of the more misunderstood Halloween films and one of my favourites of the franchise: I'd say that this movie really is less abt Michael himself and why he's doing what he's doing but rather the "Curse" that he's put on the ppl of Haddonfield and how much of an impact one night in 1978 can scar a whole community for a LONG time and just like Laurie said, Michael Myers is the ESSENCE of evil. He is the Boogeyman, the monster under the bed, the monster hiding in the closet, the monster in your dreams, he is the work of the Devil himself. He is pure evil and this movie shows the fear and trauma that one man brought upon a entire community. Ppl hate the movie for the way that characters like Tommy Doile were treated and how they were "out of character" and "oh the executed story was so bad, the characters were so annoying" but u have to remember that yes they're grown up yes they're ready to face the Boogeyman again and bring him down for good, but deep down they truly (along with all of Haddonfield) FEAR Michael, they FEAR the Boogeyman and what he'll do and they'll stop at NOTHING to bring him down. Laurie said herself in the movie that if someone's afraid, that's how he wins. That's how he triumphs over them. They're ALL afraid deep down. It's also almost like Michael feeds on fear and takes advantage of that. You can't defeat the Boogeyman with brute force. The only way to truly kill Evil is by breaking it's curse. And you can see that the curse upon Haddonfield won't be broken so easily. And this brings me to the sequence with the patient which I actually loved but only because how I saw that scene. When that patient showed up to the hospital, when the ppl saw a man from the news who is said to PROBABLY be the killer in their sight, they were AFRAID. THEY were Afraid, TOMMY was afraid. They didn't listen to Karen or Laurie, they didn't think to just stop and listen. They immediately ACTED. That's what u do when you're Afraid, you don't listen, you don't think, you act. They acted and saw that this man was probably Michael Myers. They didn't look at him, they didn't think to look into his eyes and see the FEAR that man felt. He was confused, he was AFRAID. He didn't see any other way out. So he jumped to his ultimate death. Not by Michael, not by the police department. But by the people of Haddonfield. You see, Michael came home. Not only to his literal home, but to Haddonfield. Michael came home to Haddonfield. His purpose isn't only to kill, but to corrupt. Michael Myers IS Haddonfield. He IS the people of the town. He corrupted and turned them into their own nightmare. They point fingers at Michael, they blame him. And they were right to in the beginning. But now, as they gave in to their fear and hatred, the only thing they can do is point that finger inward. This movie deep down to me, was never abt Haddonfield finally coming together to kill the evil in their town. It was abt the fear and scars left by one man that made this town crumble and fall to it's knees. It was abt one thing. Fear. Fear crushed their humanity, fear killed that patient, fear brought Haddonfield to it's knees, kneeling before the darkness that is Michael Myers. And hell, beleive it or not, I'd say that Laurie was most certainly afraid. Ready for him, yes, but still afraid. Afraid of what happened that fateful night, of what CAN happen and what can STILL happen. The way that this movie portrayed that through the "annoying" and "dumb" characters is perfect. The reason they did that is because that's exactly what would happen in real life. People would be scared, afraid and shocked when they come face to face with Michael fucking Myers. He's a legend, he's the darkness of a room, the monster lying in wait for it's prey, under the bed, inside the closet, in your dreams. The EMBODIMENT. OF. EVIL. The TRUE curse of Michael Myers is not himself, not what he does, not the stories, not the nightmares. But the people themselves. The control Michael has over them, the fear and pain and trauma he ensured would stay for a LONG time. Even when Evil dies, it will never truly go away. Just like that. Evil triumphs. Haddonfield is Michael Myers's home. So think of it like this. His house... His rules. Now if anybody at all made it to the end of my ADHD controlled, long paragraph, thank u for reading. Id just like to share my point of view abt why this movie is one of my favourite of the franchise and why I think it was quite misunderstood among both fans and critics. Everything I explained is just the way I see things and I hope to maybe turn some thumbs right back up to this movie for those who just hate it. And if I didn't change your mind, thank u for reading anyway and I hope u now see this movie for what I truly think it was trying to say. That even when Michael isn't onscreen, he is still there. In every frame. He's the beast, the monster in the dark lying in wait, ready to pounce and snatch it's pray. Against thank u very much for taking time to read. You're cool. 🤗😎👍
@@Sketcher776 your welcome I guess 😂 I'm sorry my ADHD took over and I didn't actually realise how much I wrote until I actually finished writing. I know no one's actually gonna make it thru the whole thing, and if they actually do, I will be very thankful for that 😂 it's mainly here for my own amusement now I guess.
@@ryanslack1589 don't wrry u don't gotta read it, after seeing how long it actually was when I finished I didn't think anyone would actually be bothered to anyway 🤣
After watching for a second my feeling toward this movie is that It was one of the best movies in the franchise. The only problem I had the constant evil dies tonight being said over and over again. Micheal stole the movie everytime he was on screen I truly felt fear for the characters and the score was so great. I'd put this up there and this is tied for my list as one of the best halloween movies in the franchise. The story of Michael being the embody of evil and how no matter what he kept killing I'm super excited for halloween ends
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The mob scenes reminded me of how our society acts today. Everyone jumps to conclusions on social media and doesn't take the time to vet info. Just straight to rage. We are so knee jerk.
I hope that Karen isn't really dead and she might still be alive. Don't forget we thought Hawkins was dead in the last movie, but in this film he survived. Just keeping my fingers crossed 🤞.
I hope the same, it seems like a dream or something… cause the body of Cameron wasn’t there and the handrail of the stairs wasn’t broken! Did you notice it?
I rewatched Halloween 2018 and noticed something I missed the first time. After Dr. Sertan stabbed Hawkins he also ran over him with the police car. If Hawkins survived getting ran over after being stabbed. No wonder why Michael can take so much damage without dying. Might as well just call Michael immortal at this point...he can't die unless u chop his head off or blow him up in pieces
I think so too because she’s shown as part of the cast of Halloween ends and since they left off on her death we can either assume she just has a beginning cameo of her death scene or she didn’t die.
I always thought Michael from H6 (Curse) was when he was the most savage. After seeing Kills, I can say this was easily the most savage Michael we've seen.
This movie didn’t have not one dull moment, great acting especially from JLC, Andi Matichak, and Judy Greer, awesome character moments, and brutal kills. This film feels more align with the original than 2018. I give it a high 8/10 and rank it 2nd after the original. We’re also getting a director’s cut of Halloween Kills on home release with an extended ending (it involves Laurie walking out the hospital with a knife we seen many times in the trailers)
Eh the whole mental patient scene was cringey and had me bored. I didn’t care and found myself, in the theater, thinking “why are we focusing on this, we get it, get back to Myers”. That was definitely a great dull moment.
@@JoeGrizz1y I feel like they could have gotten their point across better about Michael turning the town into monsters. I work with kids and some of them have mental issues and I don’t feel like they needed to execute this scene in this way. Especially when everyone in that bar heard that TWO PATIENTS WERE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ON THE NEWS!
Are you joking?? This movie was absolutely horrible!! Cringe acting and completely unrealistic. Other than Michael Myers and his kills this movie is complete trash
I thought it was ok and I liked it. It’s a just a bridge to “Halloween Dies”. The kills were great . Micheal was really sadistic this time out. The deep fake Loomis was good to see and well done. Totally agree with the OG characters being underused . Dear god, anyone with a gun couldn’t shoot for crap. They make Stormtroopers look like sharpshooters. I can’t wait to see what Laurie will do in the movie. She’s going to really go all batshit crazy from losing her daughter , the one she fought to protect for so long.
Honestly I really don’t think she dies, I just think that she was just visualizing herself getting sliced up by Michael Myers the way he did his sister, just my opinion.
Cameo Kills... The Soundtrack was on point, thank you John Carpenter... missed perfect spot to use "you can't kill the boogeyman!" during Laurie's speech at the end
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It was pretty good IMO. I liked Tommy in the film. He was portrayed as someone who is in over his head. He sees himself as a leader when he really isn't. Tommy is flawed.
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The big jon and little jon subplot would have worked if it didn’t drag on so long, especially the hospital chase sequence, both could have been shortened for some more scenes with Michael or the main characters
My personal take on why Michael didn't fight back on getting captured the first time is because this movie really hammers the point of him being the embodiment of evil and not in a metaphorical sense up to that point he had only killed four people so he wasn't as strong as he was in the future P.s the reason that Karen died in the way she did and the way that it was edited is because it was mirroring the way Michael killed his sister
Precisely he wasn’t strong enough yet but after all those kills and all that fear and anger He got way stronger he ate like 13 bullets multiple stabs and beatings And transcended
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I thought this film was VERY well done. While I do understand that some people criticizing this film have said that some of the action hero-like lines and over-the-top mannerisms (especially the overdone “evil dies tonight” line) kind of took them out of the experience of the film in a sense, I was able to look past it, as I feel the positives of the film far outweighed the negatives. I did feel like Tommy was underutilized, and I actually think it would’ve been great if they’d been able to get Paul Rudd to play the character (I prefer his portrayal of an adult Tommy from Halloween 6, especially the theatrical cut). While a fair number of characters make some pretty bad decisions that sometimes got them killed, this didn’t ruin the film for me. Honestly, a lot of those scenes, including the scene with Michael on the car and the characters’ poor handling of firearms, sold the movie to a degree for me, as it showed everyday regular people with little or no training (barring maybe some time at a range with stationary targets) straight up panicking in an extreme life-or-death traumatic situation and acting in ways that a fair number of people probably would act via quick and poor decisions and bad shooting. The writing and directing really landed the sense of fear and panic in most of the characters. I thought there was a very good balance between scary atmosphere and high level gore. There were very tense moments, and the scares landed very well (and at no point did I feel like there was too much humor inserted into the movie). The kills, while very violent and often gory, we’re never a ridiculous level of over-the-top that might have taken away from this type of film, and they were very impactful in ways that, at least in my opinion, usually made you feel bad for a good number of the people who got killed, including the old couple, the couple living in the Myers house, the doctor in the car (he tried; valiant effort), and Karen (not to mention the kid killed offscreen, who might have been an asshole, but was still just a kid). And I agree with you that I even felt for Cameron during his death; the film did a good job of making you like this character despite him making a shitty decision in the previous film-he largely redeemed himself, which made it sting a bit when he got killed, which is a mark of a good horror film.
This is exactly how i feel, another interesting thought. Halloween 2018, felt more like classic carpenter Halloween Myers if that makes sense, he’s just a mentally ill serial killer. This movie is Michael Transcended to the supernatural unstoppable killing machine he becomes later on in the series.
Yeah this is pretty much how I felt. The original Halloween is my favorite movie of all time. I thought the 2018 one was just okay. I thought it had some weird story decisions, like the whole thing with Dr. Sartain. But I was really surprised how much I ended up enjoying this one. Maybe it's because I'm a huge fan of the series and this one had a lot of fan service, but overall I enjoyed it for all the reasons you listed. It did feel pretty tense while sitting in the theater watching it. So I was very surprised to see all the negative opinions of the film online this weekend. I'm not sure what people are looking for or expecting from a Halloween movie.
Anybody that is a huge fan of the Halloween series in my opinion should love Halloween 2018 and definitely Halloween kills. 2 of the best movies that truly redeemed itself from all the bad movies before it especially resurrection and the rob zombie films. 2018 was a fresh remake/sequel for the series and Halloween kills just expands it so much more. I love it! I only say remake because it's just called Halloween but we know it's just a 40 year sequel to the first movie.
I think the divide is between people who casually watch horror and just know of the icon. The critical assessment I've seen were very flawed. Myers kills aren't creative just brutal well they're meant to be that way they've always been that way he kills to kill not like Freddy doing it out of pleasure. The tone is too serious, well no shit this is close to reality when we had a Myers the town would have rioted to kill him and tons of misinformation spreader perfect example slender man killings of 2014. Movie is a must watch true to the story ad gritty good tone makes no sense how this movie follows a formula close to og Texas chainsaw but people say it's too serious and also hate the comedy like pick your hatered
Major Pros: - The new idea on Michael's motives. Michael's motives were always family driven (or cult driven), which seemed odd considering the lines about his eyes from Loomis in the first movie. The first movie always gave the idea that Michael killed as a fascination and curiosity in a way, and the "mind of a 6-year-old" idea works well for the way he tilts his head in admiration of his kills, the odd and sometimes ridiculous body placements, etc. - Showcasing the effects on the whole town, and how fear and paranoia can turn people real fast was an interesting idea played well for the most part in this film. - Some characters were awesome and fun to watch. Cameron, both Johns, and a couple of others really stood out while on screen. - The kills, and that includes every kill. This is the middle of a trilogy, Michael needed to kill off some legacy or mainstay characters in the middle movie. He obviously can't kill certain characters until the 3rd movie (ex/ Laurie, the sheriff). But the killing of Karen fit so well for the ending to the middle movie. I do dislike that it wasn't a definitive kill since I feel many of the kills and the gore was fantastic (most likely to leaving it open for her survival). But I do feel her death and knowing Michael survived will be the catalyst for Laurie to sacrifice herself to kill him (which I predict will happen). Laurie seems too calculated and smart to die in a sacrificial or dumb way, but the heartbreak of her daughter dying may drive a storyline possibility for her death that make sense. Cons: - Some character deaths felt odd. Like the 3rd kid who died when the two girls who were smart enough to pull an elaborate prank to steal all the John's candy. Like, they sat on swings like idiots while their friend was killed, never questioning what happened to him, never hearing a suspicious noise. They even described Michael as creepy and still sat there. Felt really dumb for those characters. Same scene had the dumb parts in the attacked on the doctor/nurse couple, Marion and Lindsey. The nurse not firing during all that time made no sense, nor did Marion firing as much as she did. Same can be said for Lindsey's effects when she was found, even though it seemed like Michael never found her. I feel like their had to have been a scene where Michael threw her into the shallow water or something. It all felt odd. - The hospital scene. I get the message, and I get why it exists in the film. And I don't think it did anything wrong. It was meant to be disturbing and uncomfortable for viewers, and portray the town negatively for a reason. From the second I saw the news mention the two escapees, show the first image, but the characters turn away before the image of Michael popped up, making Michael's face blurred to the viewers (which was a big sign the characters didn't see it), I already knew what was coming. It was a difficult scene to sit through, especially since we already had brutal, uncomfortable deaths for some other characters. When the guy is asking for help, and the mob pursues him, it's just difficult to watch. When it drove him to kill himself or be brutally murdered by the mob, at that point, I had said out loud I hope Michael kills them all. The killer with no remorse who had two-three uncomfortable kill scenes in the movie already becomes an anti-hero of sorts where I routed for him to kill them. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try. Turning your characters into intolerable and unlikable people ruins your killer being seen as a dark and scary killer, because they become the "hero" of the film in a way. Look at all other horror franchises, most have delved into this cliche. Hell, Halloween did with the RZ films. I did not like a single human character in those films except Annie and Danny Trejo's character. Everyone else I wanted to watch Michael kill, especial in RZ's H2. Let's just say, that last mob killed, I was happy to watch Tommy and the mob get their just desserts, and I don't think that was the intention of the film.
I thought it was pretty good, obviously some flaws and makes for some questions heading into the next one. Would’ve loved it even more if they were able to snag Paul Rudd for Tommy
Lmao you thought it was good?? Dude you’re an idiot if you think this movie is any good other than the kills this movie was complete trash and cringe af!
@@imHim710 yeah he does looks younger than what he is but so does Kyle Richards , to me Anthony looked way older than her and they are all around the same age.
I like how people say that michael didnt die because theres going to be a third movie. He aint gonna die in that one either unless they decapitate him. I can see it now, laurie gonna finally die, and allyson gonna live and at the end hes gonna be on the loose still. He wont die and he will keep haunting as that is his whole character.
Referring to him being overwhelmed in the first “group mob” scene and him defeating the next two mobs, they made multiple references to the fact that the more kills or more pandemonium going on the stronger his evil becomes, they said that a few times in the last act; so in the beginning 1978, he probably could easily get folded because he wasn’t strong enough, also he got folded by Jamie Lee by a hanger in that first film and got up on a delay, so it would make sense that he can be knocked out or disabled enough to go to jail or prison. With the eluding to him getting strong throughout the movie, it would make sense more “horror movie” sense that he can survive mobs. Also, it’s said through multiples show, movies, anime’s, etc, that if u want to defeat a ground of people u gotta take someone or two out to break their will. 9 outta 10 people see someone get stabbed up or knocked out , their first reaction is to freak out, lol, then if they don’t run they next asf 🏃🏽♀️
Also, another Easter egg was in the flashback, when the young cop is in Judith's room. The window was cracked the exact same way it happened when the light fixture fell and broke the window when Loomis and Brackett were in the bedroom and spooked them.
During the scene where Tommy introduces Lindsey to the bar crowd we see archive footage showing Annie and Sheriff Brackett identifying her body. This was a flashback from Halloween II (1981) which according to this series is not cannon and retconned.
Yes but it’s certainly plausible that the exact same thing would happen. They’d still take Annie out on a stretcher and Brackett would still identify the body. Might as well just reuse the footage.
I'm curious where they're going with this whole repeated motif about Michael staring out of Judith's window. It reminds me of the scene in the '78 original when Loomis is talking about Michael staring at the wall, looking past the wall to his killing spree in '78
Literally watched it last night. I love how they went back to the original movie and tried to tied up. Though wish Laurie had more action scenes. Overall the movie was cool, hands down Michael’s best killing spree out of all the movies. Do wish they would have kept Michael and Laurie being siblings, can’t wait for the next movie.
I actually loved the movie. There were a couple things I didn't like, but I enjoyed it more than Halloween(2018). Both are good, but Kills not only picked up faster, it also answered questions I had with 2018.
The only parts of the movie I didn't like as much were the flashbacks. I enjoyed the flashbacks themselves, but they didn't always make it clear when they were happening(mainly with the first one). Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention, but all the way up until I saw Dr. Lumous I thought they were just chasing a copycat. I guess I also found it a bit silly that Michael somehow just barely dodged every bullet while walking down the stairs(I guess it was just bad aim, but Michael had no reaction).
@@Mikewright143 and that's why I said I might not have been paying enough attention. I must of just look away long enough for that to pop up, and go away. It's just something that now clarified removes a negative for me.
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@Nada Gain I'm sure that's true, but it was still funny that Michael just kept walking as if the cop didn't exist. The missed shots aren't a thing I really disliked, it was just silly.
I loved that the pacing was so radically different and the styling felt both vintage and fresh at the same time. In a standard horror movie, it would have ended with Karen staring out the window and maybe Michael in the distance. We've seen it end so many times where it's eyes popping open and the killer isn't dead! That's what I was expecting, so it was very entertaining to be wrong.
Tommy doesn't necessarily need to be likable because he's a legacy character. The film's about Michael as a force of nature turning the townspeople into becoming killers themselves. Tommy falls into that mob mentality. I loved how Hall portrayed him.
*** SPOILER *** The way Michael killed Karen looked like it was a callback to the shower scene in Psycho, fitting since it was Jamie Lee Curtis' mom in that movie.
@@cameronrodriguez7701 that was my first thought too and it definitely felt like that. For me, it was just the quick edits just reminded me a bit of Psycho.
Yup, was thinking the same thing. The quick cuts, the blocking with an open hand, how the body laid when it hit the ground. All of that was PSYCHO. Its nice to see another PSYCHO reference.
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i honestly felt like karen’s death was super impactful and leads us into halloween ends with laurie obviously being the main character and of course it’s shown that ‘it isn’t about laurie’ but in a way it is and i feel like karen’s death is going to be laurie breaking point and instead of waiting for michael laurie will not stop until michael is 100% dead
Yea apparently the new movie will deal with covid and be four years later so I am assuming that he will go into hiding as feeling that killing Karen was fulfilling and she will actually hunt him down which would be cool asf tbh
I've actually seen it 3 times now, it's my favorite sequel in the series. The kills were just as brutal as I expected, plus I felt bad for the characters when they died.
yeah, one of the only slasher movies that you don’t know who is going to die. usually the annoying dick characters die, but some of the nicer ones with good intentions die here too. i really like that aspect of the movie
I thought the lady shooting herself in the head and Chambers clicking off a empty shot was hilarious - That posse looked to be directed by The Three Stooges
@@1983jblack during the hole park acne I was saying “ that’s embarrassing” from the empty gun ,to trying to choke Micheal, to shooting yourself. It was a whole rollarcoaster Only Lindsay knew what was up and a true survivor should
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I seriously don’t understand how people can call this movie trash it’s a god damn masterpiece people can’t u see that the beginning is literally perfect and amazing the rest of the move is amazing we had the most coolest kills by Michael and u can actually see him having fun with his kills
Agree with a lot of your points Chris. A little surprised you didn't talk about Michael's unmasking and the scene where he's chasing Karen trying to get it back.
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This movie reminded me why I was so afraid of these movies as a child. I mean, this movie TERRIFIED me. That old couple in the beginning. Jeesh. It felt so real. I couldn't help but to put myself in that woman's shoes. The emotions and fear.... I can honestly say that I felt bad for everyone who died in this film. I really felt their fear.
My favourite part of this movie was the score. It genuinely elevated the movie so much. I think with any lesser score I would’ve liked the movie considerably less, but because it was so good it just made me love the film a lot more. Especially in the last 20 mins or so of the movie…
I don’t know if this is a reference but I loved when Karen led Michael to the mob. And she said “gotcha” just like she said in Halloween 2018 when she shot him
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I did in fact think of you every time I saw it I would quietly scream "RED LIIIIGHT" and I almost forgot the OG Myers in real life is or was a Dentist office so no one lives there lol buuut just thought I'd share
I think they made good and bad scenes but I guess you live and learn
I watched the movie at 7am and wait all day for your video, I love Halloween kills, bring on Halloween ends
It was EPIC!! Nothing has ever topped 1978 for me but Kills just has!! Loved it!
I think they need to burn down the Meyers house because he always goes back. I feel like if they destroy his home he wont have anything to go back for. We always thought it was for his sister, but we was always brought to his sister.
When Michael stepped out the burning house and mercilessly killed those firefighters... it was at this moment that Haddonfield knew they fucked up !
Damn straight
Now they need Elon musk canon to nuke the house and make a unbreakable basement then he would die
True lol
Ok, so why didn't he do that at the end of the film? One of my issues was the inconsistencies with certain characters.
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i hated how all the people kept saying “how do you know it’s not him” before the man jumped at the hospital….uhhh he’s 5’6 😭
thats what i was like, like myers is like 7'9
@@dannydimes10 he’s 6’3
And Karen told them as much.
It's a terrible movie.
bro was built like the penguin from batman returns 😭
Regardless if Karen dies or survives, when Laurie finds out, she will go all out. She will be all savage on Michael.
I just truly don’t understand how the fuck Michael even got in there 😂
@@OhWowThatsDumb exactly without nobody seeing him
@April King I hope it’s real, I hate when a movie shows us something shocking just to take it away, feels cheap
@@imwhatyouyoucallaballsack6205 it’s not a day dream and I think she dead fr
@@OhWowThatsDumb there’s a back door
Big John and little John were some of the best comedic relief in a horror/slasher I’ve seen.
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Right
When they grabbed the weapons I died 😂
@@jmedrano704 😂😂😂
Yes. They. Are
I overall liked the hospital scene. I thought it was a very realistic way of showing how misinformation spreads so quickly. It really does happen like that.
You're so right I had no probably with that scene
I didn't mind it but damn that dude was fr like a hobbit and Mike is like over 6 feet tall like how do you get them confused 😂😂 this movie quite possibly had the worst characters I've seen, I was actually cheering for their deaths 😅 everything else was awesome
That scene was so realistic and I felt bad for the guy who just wanted help. I have seen moments like that were the mob is so locked on to that being Michael that their brains stopped working. If that would have been Michael, he would not run at all.
There's a video on youtube where they do a social experiment. The 1st person says something and the next would repeat it down the line. The last thing said wasn't even close to what was originally said. I'm sure y'all get the point lol
@@bakashinji most of them probably didn’t even know who they we’re chasing they just saw everybody running and decided to run too
Karen's death is shot similarly to the way Michael killed his sister.
If shes really dead. It could be just her imagining it. Cuz how did he get back to the house in time?
@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 I def feel the "Holy shit, my mind is fucking with me so hard!" but at the same time, I feel like new wind Michael could've came back and just fucked things up again
@@CaptVooDooGaming thank you, I believe them killing her off, even when they were sending us so many clues that she would be the next killer, is absolutely amazing
@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 and why was it flashing back and forth from Laurie to Karen? Maybe Laurie was imagining what was going to happen to Karen..?
How did he get back to the house without anyone noticing him ?
The scene with Lonnie being bullied was originally his friends making fun of him for running from the Myers house after loomis scared them
Yeah, I read the first act of the script. And that scene was way better than the scene they eventually used.
“Hey Lonnie get yo ass away from there”
Ooooooh !! When Lumis was whispering from the bushes huh lol 😂
I think this was just another moment where he was bullied as you could imagine that he probably wasn't just bullied that one time. Plus that was in the day time this moment occurred at night.
@@B1Kobe0824 when loomis scared him through the bushes was at night.
(In the original 1978 film)
In the script for Halloween Kills, the scene continues with the other kids making fun of Lonnie right after the Loomis scene (from 1978). However, in the movie, they don't show Loomis and the scene has totally different dialogue with the kids.
Another Easter Egg/Reference: At the end, Laurie is talking about how Michael spreads fear and turns people mad. She says “THAT is the true CURSE of Michael Myers” just a little reference to Halloween 6
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The worst Halloween in the entire franchise.
@Jarred Knox no 2018 is
I saw that
@@shlomicohen2341 Halloween resurrection was the worst
I loved it can't for Halloween ENDS
Nah, this movie was stupid as hell, everyone's all ready to fight then goes off alone and do the dumbest shit.
@@zZiL341yRj736 agreed though the kills were cool
People like you are the reason the Halloween franchise will never end😂 just wait 10 years or less when another new Halloween sequel/remake gets made
@@zZiL341yRj736 well after that innocent mans death a lot of people probably thought damn i just got him killed i feel like an animal also everyone knew damn well they weren’t stopping Michael cmon now
I actually loved this movie the only thing I didn’t like was when Karen saw young Micheal or when Laurie wasn’t usually involved
I love how big John had the little knife and little John had the big knife
Haha I noticed that too
I liked how their positions were reversed from the picture
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I loved when they were clearing the house “BIG JOHN!”
“LITTLE JOHN!”
“STUDY IS CLEAR BIG JOHN!”
😂😂😂
dude i was trying to think if that was some type pf sexual dynamic or what i couldnt figure it out
To me, that inmate scene was to show that regardless of what he was locked up for, he is just scared deep down and has a deep psychological side just like any other normal killer. However Michael, while also being locked up at Smith’s Grove, does not have that psychological side, he’s just pure evil. In a way, you feel bad for the inmate because you see he has a soul but there’s no way to feel bad for Michael. I think it really shows a clear difference between Michael just being a mental patient and him being the embodiment of evil
I'm surprised rage is not a word heard more often. I suppose Loomis could really deliver that better than anyone.
Yeah I felt kind of sad for that inmate. Committing suicide & all. Tragic
Couldn’t agree more, the whole dynamic of his character was to reflect peoples mentality when blinded by rage, and the difference between someone that can be helped, and can’t!!
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@@jrtaylor1010 because rage isn’t the intent of the character stupid lol.. rage is more of an emotional, human reaction.. Michael is pure evil .. he’s more emotionless than emotional .. now rob zombie’s Michael Myers was all about “rage”. That version was just a pyschopath due to bullying a bad childhood.
I think this movie shows perfectly how relentless Michael is even after he is getting beaten by a group of people, shot and stabbed he still murdered them all and just gave the feeling of hopelessness
I wish we had a scene between Laurie & Brackett. Even just a little scene to acknowledge each other. She was his daughters best friend
They even showed a moment where bracket heard the name and it got his attention and he said Laurie. Thought it was setting up for a scene eventually.
And then Nothing 🤦🏻♂️
@@Leg3ndKilla687 I know! It would have been a nice scene. Hopefully there is a deleted scene at least
@@laurajane110 I have a feeling this is one of those movies where it's best form is the director's cut, watching the Peacock cut, I kept getting the impression some scenes were cut out, or finished too early while the scene was still digesting. I'll watch the movie again after that point and see how I feel then.
I'll be honest Chris, the two things I liked in this movie was the closing shot with Michael standing in Judith's room looking out the window with the blue lighting in the background and seeing Loomis back during the flashbacks.
Good stuff indeed
LOVED the loomis scenes xx
The closing shot was cringe af.
Using "cringe" in 2021 is max-limp
@@3CFilms BLUE LIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My parents have this on going joke about how Laurie and Micheal will be in a nursing home going at each other in wheelchairs because of how long this series as gone on. Super excited for the next movie! I loved Halloween Kills.
“Hey big john “….. little John” … “big John” , I couldn’t stop laughing at that point.! 😀
Me too I love them🤣🤣❤️
"I've got this knife." "I've got this knife." So bad! Instead of getting themselves needlessly slaughtered, it would have been much scarier if they tried calling 911 but couldn't get any officers to assist them because they're all tied up dealing with the hospital mob and so went upstairs to investigate on their own. Then at least you can't call them completely dumb
@@TRal55 some people have that mentality of handling things themselves. Believe it or not
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Sttuuuuarrrrt!!
I actually enjoyed the Karen death. You want to know why? it's symbolic. Not only did they use a similar style to when he did that kill with his sister, it's a call back to how she basically said she was just like his sister and innocent. When she stands in the window, he is pulled back into the moment when he is six years old and he brutally cuts her down.
As for how he got in? I'll gesture to the entire franchise as a whole as Michael has been able to get into places he shouldn't and yet it works for him.
You see him walk up the stairs
I think there’s a time jump from when Karen leaves Micheal to Micheal killing everyone then entering through the house back door and waiting or something
@@shataysianelson9414 exactly
I was thinking it was symbolic. As in she is watching as Micheal cuts away at her sanity, and she becomes corrupted by his influence and will help him in Halloween Ends. I don’t think she is dead.
The scene also looked a bit like an homage to the shower scene in psycho.
I think Michael killing Karen is just Karen’s thoughts on how he killed his sister. It may not be but we will find out in Halloween Ends
The director confirmed Karen is dead....
@April King The director confirmed Karen was dead...
This dude is really just the boogeyman, literally built different.
Built like evil knievel.
I feel like some of the scenes don’t get enough credit like when Michael stepped out of Laurie’s house while it was burning just facing the firefighters standing their to me was incredible and also when he was surrounded in the street and puts his mask back on those 2 scenes were amazing to me
bro. Karen’s death is a direct homage to Psycho. the “random” edits aren’t random at all, it’s like shot for shot assembled the same way Janet Leigh was cut up by Bates.
I noticed that as well. It was more Psycho than Judith.
I don’t think Karen is dead
Dang it I thought I was the only one who noticed and was omw here to say it🤣🤣🤣
But it’s also to eater egg too the original one
Yup
The town acting like a bunch of assholes actually made me want Michael to win at the end.
Shout out to big John and little John. The real MVPs
Real MVPs for sure
Big John!
Same I was rooting for Michael during the mob scene
Same here the whole hospital scene in the late part was not needed. And the kills where nice
Big John and Little John were so so stupid. They made every cliche choice that horror movie victims make.
Karen is definitely dead because they linger on her closeup of her dead eyes - that's always a finality. For Hawkins you never saw his 'death' closeup
Or shes imagining it in her head
I think it's in her head because Michael was killing the mob when she went in the house and the cops would've seen Michael going back to his house
@@battlesyt9480 The director confirmed she is dead...
@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 The director confirmed that Karen is dead.
@@gentlemanbryce2946 I just realized that after doing research lol ugh it sucks so much.
My opinion, I REALLY enjoyed the movie up until the last scene when Michael snaps back and kills everyone. I feel like it has to be a dream sequence. so many major players quickly taken out without any moment to themselves or anything. Hawkins surviving was a huge W because I loved his character and it seems there is more to explored with him and Laurie... I am intrigued by halloween ends and where the story is taken. oh btw LOVED the Michael design in this as well as the flashback scenes
That’s how it happens you get clapped in an instant no time to think or come to terms that you just died
Hope that it's a total dream sequence because it was just a mess. And he then finds Laurie strode's daughter suddenly and kills her? Terribly done.
For me it was the opposite. I didn’t like the majority of the movie except for the end
I thought that about the first 45 minutes were amazing. It started to drag for me with all the mob stuff. The ending was great tho
I was actually thinking the same thing about the dream or maybe day dream in the last scene.
Omg yes him saying evil dies tonight was the biggest annoyance in the whole movie for me I'm glad I'm not the only one!
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Especially when the lady said it.
"Evil dies tonight" "This ends tonight" "Tonight, Michael Myers dies". They said that shit so many times, I got so annoyed with it. I was like alright just shut the fuck up about it and do it already
That and saying 40 years over and over again like geez Louise, we get it 🤯
@@CandieP That's the thing that bugged me too. "40 years ago, he scared me. Tonight.. I'm gonna scare him back." Lol
I personally loved the brutality of the kills and the chilling mood throughout. At first impression I thought the mob acted so dumb, but given all the events happened on the same night and everyone was charged up with adrenaline, I kinda understand the bad decisions made.
Totally agree! Instead of trying to come up with slick and gimmicky kill scenes, they just stuck with showing Michael's strength and brutality, it was definitely more impactful.
No everyone was acting stupid as fuck, no logic given this dude been around for 40 years. It's a fucjing dumb movie. There's no excuse.
Well to be fair, you wouldn't make rational or logical decisions in that moment either. The theme of this movie was mass hysteria, a phenomenon in which a community transmits illusions of threat, whether real or fake, amongst other members of said community.
@@zZiL341yRj736 Michaels been around for 40 years, but he was only seen publicly back in the first movies timeline. After that event, he was locked up for 40 years, away from the public. Basically nobody remembers how he looks like anymore except for the severely traumatized victims like Laurie. Plus, those townspeople don’t know how strong & durable Michael is. Tbh, the mob mentality and how every character reacted makes sense. Y’all just think they have no logic bc you’re not in their shoes.
All the mob scenes was unwatchable. This movie was straight trash
I just went with my 13 year old brother. This was his first scary movie in theaters and woah it didn’t disappoint. We had a fun time and will definitely rewatch it on Peacock this weekend. The mob scene at the hospital broke my heart. I can’t imagine what was going through that poor man’s head before he decided to jump. Michael must hate cheating because Cameron truly had the slowest and most painful death in the entire movie. I definitely didn’t expect Karen to get stabbed and maybe die. I expected the Strode women to be untouchable
I had to pay them 20 extra dollars to let my 8 year old brother see it.
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That’s illegal.
U need to be 18 and over there is no way they let your 13 yr old in
@@keshawnmaealaititi1568 there’s nothing that money can’t solve
I NEVER want to hear the god damned phrase Evil Dies Tonight EVER again....Jesus Christ they over used the hell out of that.
My favorite scene was when Little John walks upstairs to find his boyfriend dead and Michael looking out the window for him to say.
"Michael...Your Home."
Plenty of people are going to complain about how he didn't run but for me it seemed like he knew he wasn't getting away.
that scene was so badass in theatre, and seeing michael go after him from the outside shot of the home through the window was sick
LITERALLY JUST SAW IT CHRIS AND LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT
Happy you loved it!!
Me too I loved it and don’t care what people say about it.
Agreed. I stayed up late and watched it, even though I had work at 6am lol. Totally worth it. This is my new favorite Halloween movie. Gonna watch it again tonight!
I was on my set this movie was a great movie. I havenr really felt this into a Halloween movie in while
@@emanuelpimentel8079 is it worth the money I really hope so
I think it made sense that Mike was able to sneak back into his home despite all of the police and personnel around. That's what he does. Dude knows how to sneak lol
I bet that he took a little longer route around police etc. And went in through the backdoor. But I wonder what happened after he went to town on Karen, the bodies where still in the house, like did he slay them all or just hiding in a closet until they were done? 🤔
I'm positive when Tommy shows up at the gas station to rally the random townsfolk together, while they're gathered around and he says "we have to get the guy" you see Micheal walk right behind them all barely see him!
Wait really?? I didn’t even notice
I thought I was crazy but I saw that quick flash too
@April King thank you for confirming im not insane. Seen it while watching inside a theater was chilling knowing he was that close.
The scene of Karen dying was supposed to be a semi recreation of Michaels first ever kill, at least when it comes to the way it was edited
I Don't think she actually died
Oh that actually makes a lot of sense thanks man
it should've been first person pov if they wanted to have it be like judith's death
@@n.asiiir She did. Actress Judy Greer confirmed it in an interview that she died.
@@hideandpride1891 that sucks then. Because in the movie Allison and all the paramedics were at the house, then Karen walks upstairs to look out the window and then Michael kills her. Makes no sense. How did he get in the house without anyone seeing?
I loved the inclusion of the inmate. I was wondering if any of the other escapees would play a factor, and I think it was clear this one was mentally ill and I really felt for him. It added a psychological factor that you don't see in many slashers. I also have a theory that Michael is cursed by killing Judith or something is up with that house, like it took his soul or something. After surviving that beating, Michael is obviously somehow cursed. And how did Karen know what young Michael look like or that he was dressed like a clown when he killed Judith?
I've seen many people say that michael just can't die because he's the physical embodiment of evil
In the Halloween comics his bloodline is cursed
Probably what the cop also saw before he died was that clown costume baby Michael
@@markmagician2471 The comics aren't canon and that's kind of how it was in the original sequels. The Curse of Thorn is what it was called, it was a curse put on him as a child to kill everyone in his bloodline.
you know something... she might be back for 2 reasons. 1 Laurie trained her to survive who's to say she didnt?? i mean look at Laurie she surived halloween 1 1978 despite being stabbed having her leg broken and almost being strangled. and 2 perhaps in the same way i thought hawkins was dead in the 2018 movie turns out hes alive in this one maybe it will be the same for Karen!!
It honestly annoyed a bit when Karen had Michael on the ground with his head on one of the stairs. She stomped on his head like twice and ran away. She could've continued and possibly broke his neck. His head was elevated so he was in a good position to get his neck broken. I understand that she had a plan with the other residents of the city but like if you have the chance to kill him, take it. Ignore the rest of the plan.
She stabbed him in the neck spine a little bit later and that still didnt do it. That means breaking his spine wouldn't work.
He can't take us all on......let's split up
She can't kill Michael because there wont be a next movie if Michael dies. Just like the Avengers could have beaten Thanos but have to lose because there won't be an Avengers Endgame if they had won in Infinity War.
@@freddiemercury2075 Brother, let me introduce you to the Saw franchise....
I thought the fact that Michael killed Karen out of nowhere was Michael teleporting. Showing how Michael is now a supernatural killer.
Yeah he also went through the fence at the beginning of the movie
@@wiltisdabest I didn’t see that part everyone says he walked through a fence.
Might be a time skip,
Did you notice the scene when Tommy was telling his story in the bar and when he mentioned Annie Brackett, they actually showed a few seconds of footage of her and Sheriff Brackett from Halloween 2!
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I noticed that and makes me wonder why erase Halloween 2 if that scene is still canon with the context of this one
That makes no sense because Blumhouse wiped everything from the canon except the original Halloween so why show something that doesn't even matter anymore
@@LowKiiSavage i mean that had to have happened regardless, cause like this one it took place immediately after Halloween 1978, its just one of those scenes where it can fit in either movie
@@FALLENSK8ER1995 it can’t because Loomis and Bracket were together while Michael was heading for the hospital for Laurie
Wouldn’t shock me if Tommy Doyle survived - they seemed to deliberately avoid showing Michael actually bash him in too - I could see him as the sole survivor who has to cope with how he led all those people to their deaths while possibly also being disabled from his injuries
I truly hope so, I wanted and expected a lot more of tommy
I really didn't like the new older Tommy Doyles acting i felt like he was on a whole other page than the rest of the cast. I felt like it just wasn't the same Tommy like it is with Laurie strode
I saw in the extended cut he def had to have died. Lots more blood and guts went flying, but maybe they recut it since they finished h ends before kills was released
@@Sjb99-f1s well they did stab officer hawkins deep in the throat and rab over the dude on top of that . Talk about painful. I don't see how he didn't get squished to death or at the very least loose oxygen/ have his chest and lungs be broken .
I Honestly think Michael Myers Killing Karen Strode is a fakeout, kinda like how in the ending of Halloween 4, we saw Jamie Lloyd kill her Foster Mom, but then Halloween 5 revealed that never happened. Also I think it would be a Major Plot hole for Karen to be killed off unless if everyone else at the Myers house including Allyson had died to Michael as well.
Maybe they want to see the feedback on it then change it in the next film since people really didn’t like her dying like that
@@toodank23_21 i didn't mind karen dying. I actually want michael to kill laurie and her granddaughter too. And all the legacy characters. I want michael to come out on top at halloween ends.
I think it’s a fake out too. We are to believe no one hears her screams & he just walks out of the house.
Uh...what?
Jamie tries to kill her foster mom it's canon but in the sequel to that film she really doesn't it does happen tho lmao. I think micheal killing karen isn't a fakeout because it felt right she was always like "gotcha" everytime she came up against him but finally and since he doesn't speak he "got" her back. It gives laurie perfect motive to team up with her grand daughter and her highschool sweetheart and stage a comeback against micheal. I don't think it'll be the end unless it has something to do with the timing
Honestly the patient suicide was such a deep scene and I don’t want to sound like a psycho but I loved that scene
I just finished watching the movie, and im amazed. I can understand why some people wouldn't like the movie, but I absolutely LOVED it. I can't say its the best Halloween movie ever made, but it sure its my favorite out of all of them, its the first I watch on theaters and it will hold a special place on my heart. I can't wait for Halloween Ends to finish this story.
Abso fucking lutly, the BEST entry to date
I love how they made him more of a monster and less human. It makes him more formidable and un killable. I also loved the kills they seemed more gore and more like Jason type kills rather than just stabs and chokes
THIS!!!
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Here are my thoughts on the film:
The way that Laurie took a back seat for this one was rlly good. It gave way for new characters, for new stories, for old stories even to be completed, for long lost characters to return and face down the evil that is Michael Myers. The story was very great, but the execution maybe could've been a bit better. A problem I did have was with how rushed things felt and how enclosed you felt watching. Like you'll be following this small (and I mean SMALL) group of old characters which is great but they were out hunting Michael for no longer than 10-20 mins by themselves and getting a few of them killed off right away was a bit dissapointing. But that was also something I did like abt this movie was the suspense and fear u felt for characters. No one was safe and I loved it, kept me on the edge of my seat. The trailer gave of this feeling that Haddonfield would be going after Michael in LARGE numbers and he would absolutely DEMOLISH everything and everyone in his path so that was a bit of a letdown. The way he acted and the way he went around doing his thing though was really a big pro for me. The actor absolutely nails Michael as a character and the originality you feel coming from this Michael is wonderful. This is for sure the most brutal Michael we've had for a while since Rob Zombie's Halloween and I loved every single kill and every single second of it. When he was onscreen I felt the fear, the intimidation and wondering if his victims will get away or not. I am a bit mixed on the ending and how I thought it was REALLY good, it did feel quite abrupt and I am actually only talking abt the final kill spree he has at the end with that large group. Wasn't a fan of the death of Karen but I kind of understand why they had to do that.
Here are my deeper thoughts into the movie and why that, beside a few clear flaws, this I one of the more misunderstood Halloween films and one of my favourites of the franchise:
I'd say that this movie really is less abt Michael himself and why he's doing what he's doing but rather the "Curse" that he's put on the ppl of Haddonfield and how much of an impact one night in 1978 can scar a whole community for a LONG time and just like Laurie said, Michael Myers is the ESSENCE of evil. He is the Boogeyman, the monster under the bed, the monster hiding in the closet, the monster in your dreams, he is the work of the Devil himself. He is pure evil and this movie shows the fear and trauma that one man brought upon a entire community. Ppl hate the movie for the way that characters like Tommy Doile were treated and how they were "out of character" and "oh the executed story was so bad, the characters were so annoying" but u have to remember that yes they're grown up yes they're ready to face the Boogeyman again and bring him down for good, but deep down they truly (along with all of Haddonfield) FEAR Michael, they FEAR the Boogeyman and what he'll do and they'll stop at NOTHING to bring him down. Laurie said herself in the movie that if someone's afraid, that's how he wins. That's how he triumphs over them. They're ALL afraid deep down. It's also almost like Michael feeds on fear and takes advantage of that. You can't defeat the Boogeyman with brute force. The only way to truly kill Evil is by breaking it's curse. And you can see that the curse upon Haddonfield won't be broken so easily. And this brings me to the sequence with the patient which I actually loved but only because how I saw that scene.
When that patient showed up to the hospital, when the ppl saw a man from the news who is said to PROBABLY be the killer in their sight, they were AFRAID. THEY were Afraid, TOMMY was afraid. They didn't listen to Karen or Laurie, they didn't think to just stop and listen. They immediately ACTED. That's what u do when you're Afraid, you don't listen, you don't think, you act. They acted and saw that this man was probably Michael Myers. They didn't look at him, they didn't think to look into his eyes and see the FEAR that man felt. He was confused, he was AFRAID. He didn't see any other way out. So he jumped to his ultimate death. Not by Michael, not by the police department. But by the people of Haddonfield. You see, Michael came home. Not only to his literal home, but to Haddonfield. Michael came home to Haddonfield. His purpose isn't only to kill, but to corrupt. Michael Myers IS Haddonfield. He IS the people of the town. He corrupted and turned them into their own nightmare. They point fingers at Michael, they blame him. And they were right to in the beginning. But now, as they gave in to their fear and hatred, the only thing they can do is point that finger inward. This movie deep down to me, was never abt Haddonfield finally coming together to kill the evil in their town. It was abt the fear and scars left by one man that made this town crumble and fall to it's knees. It was abt one thing. Fear. Fear crushed their humanity, fear killed that patient, fear brought Haddonfield to it's knees, kneeling before the darkness that is Michael Myers. And hell, beleive it or not, I'd say that Laurie was most certainly afraid. Ready for him, yes, but still afraid. Afraid of what happened that fateful night, of what CAN happen and what can STILL happen. The way that this movie portrayed that through the "annoying" and "dumb" characters is perfect. The reason they did that is because that's exactly what would happen in real life. People would be scared, afraid and shocked when they come face to face with Michael fucking Myers. He's a legend, he's the darkness of a room, the monster lying in wait for it's prey, under the bed, inside the closet, in your dreams. The EMBODIMENT. OF. EVIL. The TRUE curse of Michael Myers is not himself, not what he does, not the stories, not the nightmares. But the people themselves. The control Michael has over them, the fear and pain and trauma he ensured would stay for a LONG time. Even when Evil dies, it will never truly go away. Just like that. Evil triumphs.
Haddonfield is Michael Myers's home. So think of it like this. His house... His rules.
Now if anybody at all made it to the end of my ADHD controlled, long paragraph, thank u for reading. Id just like to share my point of view abt why this movie is one of my favourite of the franchise and why I think it was quite misunderstood among both fans and critics. Everything I explained is just the way I see things and I hope to maybe turn some thumbs right back up to this movie for those who just hate it. And if I didn't change your mind, thank u for reading anyway and I hope u now see this movie for what I truly think it was trying to say. That even when Michael isn't onscreen, he is still there. In every frame. He's the beast, the monster in the dark lying in wait, ready to pounce and snatch it's pray.
Against thank u very much for taking time to read. You're cool. 🤗😎👍
Thank you for the essay
I was gonna read that until I saw how long it was
@@Sketcher776 your welcome I guess 😂 I'm sorry my ADHD took over and I didn't actually realise how much I wrote until I actually finished writing. I know no one's actually gonna make it thru the whole thing, and if they actually do, I will be very thankful for that 😂 it's mainly here for my own amusement now I guess.
@@ryanslack1589 don't wrry u don't gotta read it, after seeing how long it actually was when I finished I didn't think anyone would actually be bothered to anyway 🤣
Well said 👏🏽
After watching for a second my feeling toward this movie is that It was one of the best movies in the franchise. The only problem I had the constant evil dies tonight being said over and over again. Micheal stole the movie everytime he was on screen I truly felt fear for the characters and the score was so great. I'd put this up there and this is tied for my list as one of the best halloween movies in the franchise. The story of Michael being the embody of evil and how no matter what he kept killing I'm super excited for halloween ends
That ending when Michael kills the mob was everything for me, can’t wait for 2022
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Right that was prime Mike 😂😂😂
Same even though tommy sometimes wasn't likeable to me but I felt bad for him but with everyone else in dat mob DIE. And I don't think Karen is dead
Same. I didn't like most of the movie but the ending absolutely saved it for me.
Best part
I was like Michael Can’t die 😂😂 He has a Park power of the mortality
Dude survived so much lol
That's why the song is called Unkillable
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His a mortal Kombat character at this point 😭😂
The mob scenes reminded me of how our society acts today. Everyone jumps to conclusions on social media and doesn't take the time to vet info. Just straight to rage. We are so knee jerk.
Woke up and watched Michael slaughter half a town 💪💪 This one was better than Halloween 2018 in my opinion
This one felt like I was watching Friday the 13 with Jason wearing Michael mask honestly. It didn’t feel like a Halloween movie.
@@hecg83 that's the beauty of it I thought the entire flow and setup was amazing and different
@@hecg83 Michael was just trying to get home
@@Mikewright143 😂😂
@@hecg83 nah this movie felt wierd
I hope that Karen isn't really dead and she might still be alive. Don't forget we thought Hawkins was dead in the last movie, but in this film he survived. Just keeping my fingers crossed 🤞.
Haha I say exactly that
I hope the same, it seems like a dream or something… cause the body of Cameron wasn’t there and the handrail of the stairs wasn’t broken! Did you notice it?
No, he stabbed her mike 4-7 times
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Nahhhhhh she's dead
I rewatched Halloween 2018 and noticed something I missed the first time. After Dr. Sertan stabbed Hawkins he also ran over him with the police car. If Hawkins survived getting ran over after being stabbed. No wonder why Michael can take so much damage without dying. Might as well just call Michael immortal at this point...he can't die unless u chop his head off or blow him up in pieces
I don’t think Karen is dead. I think she just imagined that scene of him killing her.
I honestly thought of the same thing. We’ll see how it continues with Halloween Ends
Na she is dead
Pretty sure she's dead
Pretty sure Karen is dead
I think so too because she’s shown as part of the cast of Halloween ends and since they left off on her death we can either assume she just has a beginning cameo of her death scene or she didn’t die.
I always thought Michael from H6 (Curse) was when he was the most savage. After seeing Kills, I can say this was easily the most savage Michael we've seen.
This movie didn’t have not one dull moment, great acting especially from JLC, Andi Matichak, and Judy Greer, awesome character moments, and brutal kills. This film feels more align with the original than 2018. I give it a high 8/10 and rank it 2nd after the original. We’re also getting a director’s cut of Halloween Kills on home release with an extended ending (it involves Laurie walking out the hospital with a knife we seen many times in the trailers)
Eh the whole mental patient scene was cringey and had me bored. I didn’t care and found myself, in the theater, thinking “why are we focusing on this, we get it, get back to Myers”. That was definitely a great dull moment.
Yeah I personally liked kills more than 2018 myself!
@@JoeGrizz1y I feel like they could have gotten their point across better about Michael turning the town into monsters. I work with kids and some of them have mental issues and I don’t feel like they needed to execute this scene in this way. Especially when everyone in that bar heard that TWO PATIENTS WERE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ON THE NEWS!
Is this confirmed? Cause I really hope it is true!
Are you joking?? This movie was absolutely horrible!! Cringe acting and completely unrealistic. Other than Michael Myers and his kills this movie is complete trash
I thought it was ok and I liked it. It’s a just a bridge to “Halloween Dies”.
The kills were great . Micheal was really sadistic this time out. The deep fake Loomis was good to see and well done. Totally agree with the OG characters being underused .
Dear god, anyone with a gun couldn’t shoot for crap. They make Stormtroopers look like sharpshooters.
I can’t wait to see what Laurie will do in the movie. She’s going to really go all batshit crazy from losing her daughter , the one she fought to protect for so long.
You mean Halloween Ends?
@@cacciusgastelum310 Dies fits with the most used word in the movie I believe 🤣
I never thought of it like that but you’re correct. She’s going to heal and go crazy on Micheal
Honestly I really don’t think she dies, I just think that she was just visualizing herself getting sliced up by Michael Myers the way he did his sister, just my opinion.
Cameo Kills... The Soundtrack was on point, thank you John Carpenter... missed perfect spot to use "you can't kill the boogeyman!" during Laurie's speech at the end
I wasn’t expecting Tommy and Karen to die
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H4 made me think otherwise.
When they killed Karen it kinda reminds me of when Michael killed Judith in the same room and the stabbing.
watch them say Michael didn't kill Karen she was just imaging it!
I never thought it was possible to kill someone just by kicking a car door.
She shot her gun right when the door hit her and she shot herself instead of micheal
@@snipermofo8205 that's what I meant.
Oh my FUCK that was the worst.
It was pretty good IMO. I liked Tommy in the film. He was portrayed as someone who is in over his head. He sees himself as a leader when he really isn't.
Tommy is flawed.
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The big jon and little jon subplot would have worked if it didn’t drag on so long, especially the hospital chase sequence, both could have been shortened for some more scenes with Michael or the main characters
We need a TV series detailing the days in the life of Michael Myers in between each movie instalment. 😅😂🤣😭
My personal take on why Michael didn't fight back on getting captured the first time is because this movie really hammers the point of him being the embodiment of evil and not in a metaphorical sense up to that point he had only killed four people so he wasn't as strong as he was in the future
P.s the reason that Karen died in the way she did and the way that it was edited is because it was mirroring the way Michael killed his sister
Precisely he wasn’t strong enough yet but after all those kills and all that fear and anger He got way stronger he ate like 13 bullets multiple stabs and beatings And transcended
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I thought this film was VERY well done. While I do understand that some people criticizing this film have said that some of the action hero-like lines and over-the-top mannerisms (especially the overdone “evil dies tonight” line) kind of took them out of the experience of the film in a sense, I was able to look past it, as I feel the positives of the film far outweighed the negatives. I did feel like Tommy was underutilized, and I actually think it would’ve been great if they’d been able to get Paul Rudd to play the character (I prefer his portrayal of an adult Tommy from Halloween 6, especially the theatrical cut).
While a fair number of characters make some pretty bad decisions that sometimes got them killed, this didn’t ruin the film for me. Honestly, a lot of those scenes, including the scene with Michael on the car and the characters’ poor handling of firearms, sold the movie to a degree for me, as it showed everyday regular people with little or no training (barring maybe some time at a range with stationary targets) straight up panicking in an extreme life-or-death traumatic situation and acting in ways that a fair number of people probably would act via quick and poor decisions and bad shooting. The writing and directing really landed the sense of fear and panic in most of the characters.
I thought there was a very good balance between scary atmosphere and high level gore. There were very tense moments, and the scares landed very well (and at no point did I feel like there was too much humor inserted into the movie). The kills, while very violent and often gory, we’re never a ridiculous level of over-the-top that might have taken away from this type of film, and they were very impactful in ways that, at least in my opinion, usually made you feel bad for a good number of the people who got killed, including the old couple, the couple living in the Myers house, the doctor in the car (he tried; valiant effort), and Karen (not to mention the kid killed offscreen, who might have been an asshole, but was still just a kid). And I agree with you that I even felt for Cameron during his death; the film did a good job of making you like this character despite him making a shitty decision in the previous film-he largely redeemed himself, which made it sting a bit when he got killed, which is a mark of a good horror film.
This is exactly how i feel, another interesting thought. Halloween 2018, felt more like classic carpenter Halloween Myers if that makes sense, he’s just a mentally ill serial killer.
This movie is Michael Transcended to the supernatural unstoppable killing machine he becomes later on in the series.
Yeah this is pretty much how I felt. The original Halloween is my favorite movie of all time. I thought the 2018 one was just okay. I thought it had some weird story decisions, like the whole thing with Dr. Sartain. But I was really surprised how much I ended up enjoying this one. Maybe it's because I'm a huge fan of the series and this one had a lot of fan service, but overall I enjoyed it for all the reasons you listed. It did feel pretty tense while sitting in the theater watching it. So I was very surprised to see all the negative opinions of the film online this weekend. I'm not sure what people are looking for or expecting from a Halloween movie.
Anybody that is a huge fan of the Halloween series in my opinion should love Halloween 2018 and definitely Halloween kills. 2 of the best movies that truly redeemed itself from all the bad movies before it especially resurrection and the rob zombie films. 2018 was a fresh remake/sequel for the series and Halloween kills just expands it so much more. I love it!
I only say remake because it's just called Halloween but we know it's just a 40 year sequel to the first movie.
I think the divide is between people who casually watch horror and just know of the icon. The critical assessment I've seen were very flawed.
Myers kills aren't creative just brutal well they're meant to be that way they've always been that way he kills to kill not like Freddy doing it out of pleasure.
The tone is too serious, well no shit this is close to reality when we had a Myers the town would have rioted to kill him and tons of misinformation spreader perfect example slender man killings of 2014.
Movie is a must watch true to the story ad gritty good tone makes no sense how this movie follows a formula close to og Texas chainsaw but people say it's too serious and also hate the comedy like pick your hatered
I loved it all but I did not like the ending
Major Pros:
- The new idea on Michael's motives. Michael's motives were always family driven (or cult driven), which seemed odd considering the lines about his eyes from Loomis in the first movie. The first movie always gave the idea that Michael killed as a fascination and curiosity in a way, and the "mind of a 6-year-old" idea works well for the way he tilts his head in admiration of his kills, the odd and sometimes ridiculous body placements, etc.
- Showcasing the effects on the whole town, and how fear and paranoia can turn people real fast was an interesting idea played well for the most part in this film.
- Some characters were awesome and fun to watch. Cameron, both Johns, and a couple of others really stood out while on screen.
- The kills, and that includes every kill. This is the middle of a trilogy, Michael needed to kill off some legacy or mainstay characters in the middle movie. He obviously can't kill certain characters until the 3rd movie (ex/ Laurie, the sheriff). But the killing of Karen fit so well for the ending to the middle movie. I do dislike that it wasn't a definitive kill since I feel many of the kills and the gore was fantastic (most likely to leaving it open for her survival). But I do feel her death and knowing Michael survived will be the catalyst for Laurie to sacrifice herself to kill him (which I predict will happen). Laurie seems too calculated and smart to die in a sacrificial or dumb way, but the heartbreak of her daughter dying may drive a storyline possibility for her death that make sense.
Cons:
- Some character deaths felt odd. Like the 3rd kid who died when the two girls who were smart enough to pull an elaborate prank to steal all the John's candy. Like, they sat on swings like idiots while their friend was killed, never questioning what happened to him, never hearing a suspicious noise. They even described Michael as creepy and still sat there. Felt really dumb for those characters. Same scene had the dumb parts in the attacked on the doctor/nurse couple, Marion and Lindsey. The nurse not firing during all that time made no sense, nor did Marion firing as much as she did. Same can be said for Lindsey's effects when she was found, even though it seemed like Michael never found her. I feel like their had to have been a scene where Michael threw her into the shallow water or something. It all felt odd.
- The hospital scene. I get the message, and I get why it exists in the film. And I don't think it did anything wrong. It was meant to be disturbing and uncomfortable for viewers, and portray the town negatively for a reason. From the second I saw the news mention the two escapees, show the first image, but the characters turn away before the image of Michael popped up, making Michael's face blurred to the viewers (which was a big sign the characters didn't see it), I already knew what was coming. It was a difficult scene to sit through, especially since we already had brutal, uncomfortable deaths for some other characters. When the guy is asking for help, and the mob pursues him, it's just difficult to watch. When it drove him to kill himself or be brutally murdered by the mob, at that point, I had said out loud I hope Michael kills them all. The killer with no remorse who had two-three uncomfortable kill scenes in the movie already becomes an anti-hero of sorts where I routed for him to kill them. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try. Turning your characters into intolerable and unlikable people ruins your killer being seen as a dark and scary killer, because they become the "hero" of the film in a way. Look at all other horror franchises, most have delved into this cliche. Hell, Halloween did with the RZ films. I did not like a single human character in those films except Annie and Danny Trejo's character. Everyone else I wanted to watch Michael kill, especial in RZ's H2. Let's just say, that last mob killed, I was happy to watch Tommy and the mob get their just desserts, and I don't think that was the intention of the film.
I thought it was pretty good, obviously some flaws and makes for some questions heading into the next one. Would’ve loved it even more if they were able to snag Paul Rudd for Tommy
Glad you liked it too! And yeah if they got Paul Rudd no way they would of killed him lol
@@3CFilms Paul Rudd wouldn't work out because he still looks the same. Man doesn't age!
Lmao you thought it was good?? Dude you’re an idiot if you think this movie is any good other than the kills this movie was complete trash and cringe af!
@@robbyrdog it’s almost like we want scary movies for the kills and not the unnecessary plot
@@imHim710 yeah he does looks younger than what he is but so does Kyle Richards , to me Anthony looked way older than her and they are all around the same age.
I like how people say that michael didnt die because theres going to be a third movie. He aint gonna die in that one either unless they decapitate him. I can see it now, laurie gonna finally die, and allyson gonna live and at the end hes gonna be on the loose still. He wont die and he will keep haunting as that is his whole character.
Referring to him being overwhelmed in the first “group mob” scene and him defeating the next two mobs, they made multiple references to the fact that the more kills or more pandemonium going on the stronger his evil becomes, they said that a few times in the last act; so in the beginning 1978, he probably could easily get folded because he wasn’t strong enough, also he got folded by Jamie Lee by a hanger in that first film and got up on a delay, so it would make sense that he can be knocked out or disabled enough to go to jail or prison. With the eluding to him getting strong throughout the movie, it would make sense more “horror movie” sense that he can survive mobs. Also, it’s said through multiples show, movies, anime’s, etc, that if u want to defeat a ground of people u gotta take someone or two out to break their will. 9 outta 10 people see someone get stabbed up or knocked out , their first reaction is to freak out, lol, then if they don’t run they next asf 🏃🏽♀️
Bro Michael Vs the town was awesome it was like Thanos vs the Avengers!!
Haha sure was!
What was that soundtrack on that scene i cannot find it
Definitely had some cheesy parts, but I still enjoyed it a lot.
I got what I wanted out of it.
Cool kills
Crazy cast members
Dead Karen
👍
Did you noticed Myers use “rope” to choke the officer in 78’ Flashback scene. That’s a nice call back to the OG
Also, another Easter egg was in the flashback, when the young cop is in Judith's room. The window was cracked the exact same way it happened when the light fixture fell and broke the window when Loomis and Brackett were in the bedroom and spooked them.
Good catch, I was sort of wondering why I couldnt remember why the window was broken
It was part of the gutter I believe the broke the window not a light fixture. I could be wrong tho.
@@SuperAdRiCh7 it could have been the gutter. Idk, doesn't really matter what it was that broke it. Just referring to it in this movie was cool to me!
@@MarieHaz.4618 absolutely, I agree.
You also see the station wagon in the opening scene as well. I noticed that immediately
During the scene where Tommy introduces Lindsey to the bar crowd we see archive footage showing Annie and Sheriff Brackett identifying her body. This was a flashback from Halloween II (1981) which according to this series is not cannon and retconned.
Yes but it’s certainly plausible that the exact same thing would happen. They’d still take Annie out on a stretcher and Brackett would still identify the body. Might as well just reuse the footage.
@@seanmcallister7846 Yep, plus they can still use a younger Charles Cyphers instead of a look alike
It had its ups and downs. The flashback with loomis back was one of the best bit.
My favorite thing in this movie was the ventriloquist guy in the bar. That part made me chuckle and I want to see his whole act now. lol
I'm curious where they're going with this whole repeated motif about Michael staring out of Judith's window. It reminds me of the scene in the '78 original when Loomis is talking about Michael staring at the wall, looking past the wall to his killing spree in '78
Me too but the next movie will be four years from that night so who knows what will happen after four years
I went to see Halloween Kills yesterday night and I loved it so much! One of my favorite Halloween films.
Literally watched it last night. I love how they went back to the original movie and tried to tied up. Though wish Laurie had more action scenes. Overall the movie was cool, hands down Michael’s best killing spree out of all the movies. Do wish they would have kept Michael and Laurie being siblings, can’t wait for the next movie.
I actually loved the movie.
There were a couple things I didn't like, but I enjoyed it more than Halloween(2018).
Both are good, but Kills not only picked up faster, it also answered questions I had with 2018.
The only parts of the movie I didn't like as much were the flashbacks.
I enjoyed the flashbacks themselves, but they didn't always make it clear when they were happening(mainly with the first one).
Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention, but all the way up until I saw Dr. Lumous I thought they were just chasing a copycat.
I guess I also found it a bit silly that Michael somehow just barely dodged every bullet while walking down the stairs(I guess it was just bad aim, but Michael had no reaction).
@@Sir_Slimbread it literally said on screen Halloween 1978 when the flash back started and when it switched back it said Halloween 2018
@@Mikewright143 and that's why I said I might not have been paying enough attention.
I must of just look away long enough for that to pop up, and go away.
It's just something that now clarified removes a negative for me.
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@Nada Gain I'm sure that's true, but it was still funny that Michael just kept walking as if the cop didn't exist.
The missed shots aren't a thing I really disliked, it was just silly.
I loved that the pacing was so radically different and the styling felt both vintage and fresh at the same time. In a standard horror movie, it would have ended with Karen staring out the window and maybe Michael in the distance. We've seen it end so many times where it's eyes popping open and the killer isn't dead! That's what I was expecting, so it was very entertaining to be wrong.
Tommy doesn't necessarily need to be likable because he's a legacy character. The film's about Michael as a force of nature turning the townspeople into becoming killers themselves. Tommy falls into that mob mentality. I loved how Hall portrayed him.
I swear that's john wick under the Michael Meyers mask lol the kills were crazy
Nah man, John wick is the one they send to kill the Boogeyman “Michael” 😂😂😂
@@hecg83 I think we have a box office hit on our hands😂or a cash grab but who's to say lol
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The way Michael killed Karen looked like it was a callback to the shower scene in Psycho, fitting since it was Jamie Lee Curtis' mom in that movie.
it seemed to me to be a callback to judith’s death
@@cameronrodriguez7701 that was my first thought too and it definitely felt like that. For me, it was just the quick edits just reminded me a bit of Psycho.
Yup, was thinking the same thing. The quick cuts, the blocking with an open hand, how the body laid when it hit the ground. All of that was PSYCHO.
Its nice to see another PSYCHO reference.
If shes really dead. She could be imagining it
Allison is by far the most interesting character in the series now.
I've never been this traumatized by just seeing Michael Myers again in the big screen
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i honestly felt like karen’s death was super impactful and leads us into halloween ends with laurie obviously being the main character and of course it’s shown that ‘it isn’t about laurie’ but in a way it is and i feel like karen’s death is going to be laurie breaking point and instead of waiting for michael laurie will not stop until michael is 100% dead
Yea apparently the new movie will deal with covid and be four years later so I am assuming that he will go into hiding as feeling that killing Karen was fulfilling and she will actually hunt him down which would be cool asf tbh
I've actually seen it 3 times now, it's my favorite sequel in the series. The kills were just as brutal as I expected, plus I felt bad for the characters when they died.
yeah, one of the only slasher movies that you don’t know who is going to die.
usually the annoying dick characters die, but some of the nicer ones with good intentions die here too. i really like that aspect of the movie
I watched it on Peacock at midnight. My favorite scene was at the park. All those kills gave me chills!
true but also the cameron kill was sad and it gave me chills
@@spazztakeoff6870 he did cam dirty that shit was brutal he was beating his ass
I thought the lady shooting herself in the head and Chambers clicking off a empty shot was hilarious - That posse looked to be directed by The Three Stooges
I was waiting patiently for it to go live...loved every second of it
@@1983jblack during the hole park acne I was saying “ that’s embarrassing” from the empty gun ,to trying to choke Micheal, to shooting yourself. It was a whole rollarcoaster
Only Lindsay knew what was up and a true survivor should
With Karen stabbing Michael in the back with a pitchfork, I felt that was a call back to Halloween 5.
I lost count of the kills because of how crazy some of them were
It was like 20 something
Haha true
@@savagehiro1720 Far more.
I counted 31. I could be off.
So Laurie didn’t see Michael the whole movie right???
Pretty much
@@3CFilms still a great movie those were the best flashbacks I ever seen, they had to use old cameras. Its most definitely worth watching.
The patient jumping to his death bcos of misinformation just broke my heart. Karen tried so hard to help him
I thought that was a good way 2 show how mob mentality can corrupt good people
The intro is a masterpiece LMAO
Yeah Michael got out of shape 🤣😂🤣
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That intro was a masterpiece 🔪👌
Thank you!
I seriously don’t understand how people can call this movie trash it’s a god damn masterpiece people can’t u see that the beginning is literally perfect and amazing the rest of the move is amazing we had the most coolest kills by Michael and u can actually see him having fun with his kills
Agree with a lot of your points Chris. A little surprised you didn't talk about Michael's unmasking and the scene where he's chasing Karen trying to get it back.
*after Michael kills big John and little John sees him staring out the window
LJ: “Michael you’re home… LOOK WHAT I CAN DO”
Starts dancing like a kid
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Glad they didn't show him die, I would have laughed my ass off he's just to memorable from Madtv.
This movie reminded me why I was so afraid of these movies as a child. I mean, this movie TERRIFIED me. That old couple in the beginning. Jeesh. It felt so real. I couldn't help but to put myself in that woman's shoes. The emotions and fear.... I can honestly say that I felt bad for everyone who died in this film. I really felt their fear.
My favourite part of this movie was the score. It genuinely elevated the movie so much. I think with any lesser score I would’ve liked the movie considerably less, but because it was so good it just made me love the film a lot more. Especially in the last 20 mins or so of the movie…
I don’t know if this is a reference but I loved when Karen led Michael to the mob. And she said “gotcha” just like she said in Halloween 2018 when she shot him